I had some brainlet on Facebook get upset with me because I pointed out the changes for OneDND were terrible because no one was left at WoTC who could properly design. He rattled off Crawford as the "co designer" of 5e - which I pointed out was a meaningless title. Of course the admins of that group tried to give me a timeout for being "rude" and "a jerk" - when he was umm actuallying me. WoTC can have their VTT only audience, that group of people will get bored after a month and go back to playing Fortnite.
Crawford is no game designer. He’s a trumped up editor. 5E was good because of Mearls & the people who pushed for an edition to save the physical TTRPG from being shelved.
Does anyone else remember that scene in the Poseidon Adventure, where the main character group sees a massive group of survivors going in a direction and the herd won’t listen to the folks who know where the way out is. It feels like us OSR people are watching the herd chase after a path that doesn’t lead to salvation.
I run our campaign on Talespire, over discord now. Divorced from WotC as much as possible, but can't leave the 5e system entirely because the guys just won't have it. I just don't throw my time or money in WotC's direction anymore, not for years now.
Oh, you have _no idea_ how hated Walz is in Minnesota. The MN media covers for him and the MN Dems at every turn, and the Twin Cities is entirely captured Dem territory, but outstate? Nope. HATED. He's governor here because we have our own version of Chicago politics (which is fitting, given the history of the two urban areas). "Overnight from the Iron Range" is MN's version of the 3am Bump that pushes MN Dems into office consistently, such that it's still considered a fluke or a miracle that we had Ventura at all (and all that Uniparty talk was evident in his time as governor; still the best we'd had in almost 30 years). And if you wonder why things went to shit here, it's because MN is where much of American Scandinavia lies (along with Wisconsin and parts of Michigan) so how it went down in Sweden is how it went down here. We just don't have the grenade attacks yet. Re: WOTC Still waiting on the reveal of this being built around a Mobile Trash app, but you know that's in the works. WOTC wants that Gacha money.
This reminds of like Disney Lucas Film would announce 12 new films, and I'd think, "None of this will ever get made," and none of them ever got made. Announcing you're not making things, that should be easier, but they'll still f--k it up. People and organizations come up with these big stupid plans all the time, and it's like no, what you're really going to do is d--k around for a few years, fail every step of the way, realize you'll never stop failing if you keep it up, and then quietly abandon the whole thing for a new big stupid plan. WotC is going to make all this VTT crap for the fake geek girls who pretend to play their game, not appreciating that this demographic doesn't play video games, and will find any reason they can to not subscribe. The people who actually do play the game do so as a way to hang out, they need a virtual version of D&D as much as guys who meet on Friday to play cards need virtual poker apps. It puts the cart before the horse, and acts like the thing you do when you hang out is what matters most, and you can just cut the whole hanging out part away.
So what kind of CEO do you wish was running Wizards of the Coast at this moment? Because it looks like the new one will lean super far in to virtual RPGs and games.
Great video! It will be comical when players need to use their credit cards every time they want to check a rule or roll up a new character- perfect for an AI generated DM
I'm a newcomer to the tabletop scene, but I've been a magic player for a while. The moment I first realized they were letting other companies take over the merch, maps, and minis market with them not getting even a cut I was utterly blown away. They got a real brain trust going on over there, letting such a huge opportunity go to waste. Massive gap in the market they couldn't capitalize on at all, now they want to do so through a digital product they can have a true company store style monopoly over. Sad thing is, it will probably work. MTG Arena makes bank despite its MANY flaws and blatant cheating deck shuffler.
They struck the people who were given the new book and specifically asked to promote. It's a right hand not talking to the left that caused this problem.
What is the shaping up to be the 4E of the 2020s. Just like I don't give woke TV shows and movies views, I'm not giving this new addition a single dollar. I'm not even going to read the pdfs. They need to learn their lesson.
I’m listening to the Last Sun campaign, did you omit the guy that was looking for Mendez or did you forget about him? I remember he survived and you said he was touted as a hero of cool land for being there when they saved Gaga. Sorry but I had to ask, I loved that npc, hilarious.
Josh Shaprios Race probably played a role in the decision but Walz won in his district in 2016 while his district was won by trump by double digits, meaning many voters voted for trump and for walz, so he appeals to potential trump voters. The scandal with the woman’s stabbing death being ruled a suicide by Shapiro also affected the decision. I think a lot more went into the decision than just his race
@@sadwingsraging3044 Donald trump was president at the time as well. He going to do something but was dissuaded by steve bannon, or at least that is what I heard. But no his response to the BLM riots does not inspire confidence
@@lasombra120680 that could play a role in the election. And yes 2016 was a while ago and we all know more about trump, Harris, Vance, and Walz than in 2016
@@RPGPundit based on how you pick fights with people over very trivial shit, and gone off on people in your forum over literally nothing, Wrath is a good second place vice. But you have to be pretty Prideful to go over lightweight chumps on twitter who never had an original thought in their lives, and consider trouncing them some sort of victory, it's utter masturbaory twitter-brained drama whore nonsense. Take my advice, save some brain cells and quit using a literal skinboxer to beat off on defeating leftist losers.
I pretty much only play on VTT, because I can't find anyone local that wants to play. However I refuse to be part of WotC ecosystem where they control everything. If I do not have the ability to homebrew whatever I want, I will not play. I also am not going to be strong armed by some player that think just because they can buy a option they get to play it. I am also not going to be strong armed into playing the game how WotC wants me to play.
Sounds like it would be a lot cheaper for Hasbro to buy Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds. Or are they not the same as a VTT? Confirmed pen & paper guy here. 😊
What do you think of Steve Jackson Games? Heard the Old West book has a lot of good setting materials. I don’t want to give anymore money to people that hate me though.
Congratulations on being right again, but all anyone had to do to be right on this question was to listen to the people at Hasbro/WotC. I’m amazed (and disappointed) that anyone could think that Hasbro wants physical books to figure prominently in the future. It takes a heroic level of willful ignorance to disregard everything Hasbro says and does. Anyway, I’m looking forward to your review of One D&D, as soon as WotC sends you a free promotional copy.
This is the kind of news that, if I still even remotely cared about WotC, would be upsetting. As is, it is just more jovial schadenfreude material. Stay classy, WotC! Send the Pinkies into the Matrix to fetch back $1.00 digital capes or something.
What's most hilarious, is that they TTRPG players to suddenly shift games and go all-in, on a platform they haven't even finished making yet. Hasbro also seems to want players to commit to microtransactions, before they even start playing.
@@MrBCWalker01 - Maybe you don't know their history with this, but WotC tried to make a VTT in both 3e and 4e. Their tech sucked, and no one was even slightly interested. Now, they're trying the same thing, but going up against fully online VTT platforms, in which players have already invested. Their sales pitch? _"But our platform will have endless pay-to-win microtransactions!"_ I just don't see it happening.
@@MrBCWalker01 - 5e still exists. The OSR will always exist. Tabletop players prefer to play in person, and already have numerous other options to play online, when there's no table. The only demographic I see this appealing to, is neckbeard shut-ins, who prefer a virtual DM... and only then, once they unlock the option to roll to seduce the tavern wench!
@@MrBCWalker01 5e still exists. The OSR will always exist. Tabletop players prefer to play in person, and already have numerous other options to play online, when there's no table. The only demographic I see this appealing to, is n3ckbeard shut-ins, who prefer a virtual DM... and only then, once they unlock the option to roll to səduce the tavərn w3nch!
I simply have stopped with 5e. I do still have it and many books for it but I have no intention of going any further with D&D and WoTC, as I have NO interest in VTT AT ALL. So, my table players have gone with me to Kobold Press/Zobeck campaign. Go where ever, D&D, I leave you behind just as I did with 4e. You got me back for a while with 5e, but, bye bye.
VTT may be good at fights. But honestly the 4th edition was more appropriate for such treatment. It was very tactical rpg, with a lot of interesting fights and almost none role play mechanics. 5th edition is opposite, we have a lot of fun role playing with simple fight mechanics. So for me VTT is completely useless with current and future edition. You know for what I would like to have VTT? To Polish rpg Neuroshima: Postapokaliptyczna gra fabularna. Check it out and see how what is Polish take on apocalypse in the USA. Why, because its mechanics are non intuitive and I had to simplified theme for my players.
it is time for the rest of us, especially those who fretted over TSR killing the game (repeatedly for may years), to buckle down, support the community, and not allow the wotc crowd any new funding. the 2024 books are designed to kill the community and make way for VTT - so just don't buy them. VTT will premiere no matter what, whether it's wanted or not - just don't sign up for it. those shills and their fanbois don't need our support, either - just don't like, sub, or comment and they'll be gone soon enough. so long as 5e and earlier, purer sources are available (legally or otherwise), what's left of the community will survive until another corporation buys D&D from the soon-to-be-bankrupt hasbro (rinse lather repeat)...
@@RPGPundit as we have seen last year, that will not stand between hasbro and what coins their executives might try to cheat from their customers. come their VTT, i assure you that they will do everything to make it the ONLY route to D&D...
Well, that's what their proposed OGL revision was trying to do, but the backlash was so severe they had to go the other way and made the 5e rules Creative Commons. So they are going to have a very hard time stopping people now.
@@RPGPundit they merely miscalculated thinking the community would roll over the same way MTG community continually does. in there minds eye, nothing changed. they still needed the community's support - and still do, for now. once the VTT is established, they figure on dropping anything preventing VTT from being the only way to play - that includes the OGL...
@@CruentusV but the Creative Commons thing means they can't. They could restrict the crap out of any NEW mechanics if they wanted to, but everything that came before is now free to use in perpetuity
There is a reason that American Jews vote over 70% Democratic. Most American Jews are rational. One thing you were wrong about, Shadowdark is still kicking butt? How many Ennies did Baptism of Fire get again?
I had some brainlet on Facebook get upset with me because I pointed out the changes for OneDND were terrible because no one was left at WoTC who could properly design. He rattled off Crawford as the "co designer" of 5e - which I pointed out was a meaningless title. Of course the admins of that group tried to give me a timeout for being "rude" and "a jerk" - when he was umm actuallying me. WoTC can have their VTT only audience, that group of people will get bored after a month and go back to playing Fortnite.
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Crawford is no game designer. He’s a trumped up editor. 5E was good because of Mearls & the people who pushed for an edition to save the physical TTRPG from being shelved.
I'm all-out on WoTC.
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Me too
In the words of Razorfist “f*ck you I was right!”
Keep up the good work grognack.
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@@RPGPundit always do
The real dungeons and dragons were the friends we made along the way?
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Does anyone else remember that scene in the Poseidon Adventure, where the main character group sees a massive group of survivors going in a direction and the herd won’t listen to the folks who know where the way out is. It feels like us OSR people are watching the herd chase after a path that doesn’t lead to salvation.
Well put, though I'm hoping a few refugees will find their way to the OSR.
I run our campaign on Talespire, over discord now. Divorced from WotC as much as possible, but can't leave the 5e system entirely because the guys just won't have it. I just don't throw my time or money in WotC's direction anymore, not for years now.
Once they get a taste of the OSR they'll never go back.
Tell them to try Shadowdark. Super light. Better similar system.
That's too bad. You should get them to try Baptism of Fire!
Talespire's great, but I'm a Foundry guy myself
For me, and my players, bof IS the TTRPG of the year… and waaaaay above everything else that we played/read. Love your stuff Pundit, keep it up.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that.
As an Evil DM, I do not car of hasbro since 2019, there is so many betters TTRPGs out there! The Pundits, ShadowDark, OSR.... 🧙♂🧙♂💜💜
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Oh, you have _no idea_ how hated Walz is in Minnesota. The MN media covers for him and the MN Dems at every turn, and the Twin Cities is entirely captured Dem territory, but outstate? Nope. HATED.
He's governor here because we have our own version of Chicago politics (which is fitting, given the history of the two urban areas). "Overnight from the Iron Range" is MN's version of the 3am Bump that pushes MN Dems into office consistently, such that it's still considered a fluke or a miracle that we had Ventura at all (and all that Uniparty talk was evident in his time as governor; still the best we'd had in almost 30 years).
And if you wonder why things went to shit here, it's because MN is where much of American Scandinavia lies (along with Wisconsin and parts of Michigan) so how it went down in Sweden is how it went down here. We just don't have the grenade attacks yet.
Re: WOTC
Still waiting on the reveal of this being built around a Mobile Trash app, but you know that's in the works. WOTC wants that Gacha money.
Yes, I've seen the county results in Minnesota governor elections.
This reminds of like Disney Lucas Film would announce 12 new films, and I'd think, "None of this will ever get made," and none of them ever got made. Announcing you're not making things, that should be easier, but they'll still f--k it up. People and organizations come up with these big stupid plans all the time, and it's like no, what you're really going to do is d--k around for a few years, fail every step of the way, realize you'll never stop failing if you keep it up, and then quietly abandon the whole thing for a new big stupid plan. WotC is going to make all this VTT crap for the fake geek girls who pretend to play their game, not appreciating that this demographic doesn't play video games, and will find any reason they can to not subscribe. The people who actually do play the game do so as a way to hang out, they need a virtual version of D&D as much as guys who meet on Friday to play cards need virtual poker apps. It puts the cart before the horse, and acts like the thing you do when you hang out is what matters most, and you can just cut the whole hanging out part away.
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Because they can control the content and people logging in opt into the new OGL.
Correct. Though that will only affect the people dumb enough to sign up for that. Spread the word, share the video!
So what kind of CEO do you wish was running Wizards of the Coast at this moment? Because it looks like the new one will lean super far in to virtual RPGs and games.
A stern Japanese man who wants to make money tbh
Well, it would be great if the CEO was actually a D&D fan...
@@RPGPundit So the CEO of Larian?
I never went in with 5e and WotC to start with. I can sit here and laugh my ass off at all the WotC simps gobbling all this trash up.
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Great video! It will be comical when players need to use their credit cards every time they want to check a rule or roll up a new character- perfect for an AI generated DM
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Funnest is not a word. It's most fun. I won't be too mean, because you were educated in Canada.
I decide what words are.
@@RPGPundit and pronouns.
I'm a newcomer to the tabletop scene, but I've been a magic player for a while. The moment I first realized they were letting other companies take over the merch, maps, and minis market with them not getting even a cut I was utterly blown away. They got a real brain trust going on over there, letting such a huge opportunity go to waste. Massive gap in the market they couldn't capitalize on at all, now they want to do so through a digital product they can have a true company store style monopoly over. Sad thing is, it will probably work. MTG Arena makes bank despite its MANY flaws and blatant cheating deck shuffler.
It depends on whether their VTT works.
The only thing better than watching someone eat cold tough Crow is to personally serve someone some fresh piping hot salty Crow.😂
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They struck the people who were given the new book and specifically asked to promote. It's a right hand not talking to the left that caused this problem.
What is the shaping up to be the 4E of the 2020s. Just like I don't give woke TV shows and movies views, I'm not giving this new addition a single dollar. I'm not even going to read the pdfs. They need to learn their lesson.
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I’m listening to the Last Sun campaign, did you omit the guy that was looking for Mendez or did you forget about him? I remember he survived and you said he was touted as a hero of cool land for being there when they saved Gaga. Sorry but I had to ask, I loved that npc, hilarious.
Was that Gorp? He's probably still around but he's likely out looking for Mendez somewhere. He might just appear next session, who knows?
Yes, Gorp! I still can’t believe he lived to tell the tale
Josh Shaprios Race probably played a role in the decision but Walz won in his district in 2016 while his district was won by trump by double digits, meaning many voters voted for trump and for walz, so he appeals to potential trump voters. The scandal with the woman’s stabbing death being ruled a suicide by Shapiro also affected the decision. I think a lot more went into the decision than just his race
In Minn? Makes sense. National appeal? Not at all. He just got exposed for shenanigans while in the service.
You mean the dude who refused to call in the National Guard as the cities burned down? That dude? And you think he has national appeal?🤣
@@sadwingsraging3044 Donald trump was president at the time as well. He going to do something but was dissuaded by steve bannon, or at least that is what I heard. But no his response to the BLM riots does not inspire confidence
@@lasombra120680 that could play a role in the election. And yes 2016 was a while ago and we all know more about trump, Harris, Vance, and Walz than in 2016
In 2016 Walz presented himself as a moderate. Since then he has been proven not to be.
Pundit, what’s your favorite book on the war of the roses? Any other books you recommend to get away from novels? Thanks!
Shakespeare's plays about the War. Tied with Mallory's La Morte D'Artur.
First 15 seconds is a stark reminder Pride is most certainly your Primus Vice.
Actually, I'm pretty objective about what I'm good at and what I'm not. My main vice is probably Wrath.
@@RPGPundit based on how you pick fights with people over very trivial shit, and gone off on people in your forum over literally nothing, Wrath is a good second place vice.
But you have to be pretty Prideful to go over lightweight chumps on twitter who never had an original thought in their lives, and consider trouncing them some sort of victory, it's utter masturbaory twitter-brained drama whore nonsense.
Take my advice, save some brain cells and quit using a literal skinboxer to beat off on defeating leftist losers.
I pretty much only play on VTT, because I can't find anyone local that wants to play. However I refuse to be part of WotC ecosystem where they control everything. If I do not have the ability to homebrew whatever I want, I will not play. I also am not going to be strong armed by some player that think just because they can buy a option they get to play it. I am also not going to be strong armed into playing the game how WotC wants me to play.
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Sounds like it would be a lot cheaper for Hasbro to buy Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds. Or are they not the same as a VTT? Confirmed pen & paper guy here. 😊
Do you self publish, or go through a publisher?
I have never self-published. I'm lucky to be famous enough that publishers want to make my products.
@@RPGPundit Would you do a video for aspiring rpg pund-lite's? Any help in how to navigate the rpg author's arena would be appreciated. 🖖
Nice to see Mistwell get it wrong. Clever person but likes to preach and shut other people down.
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I didn’t think it was even controversial to say wizards is going all in to digital. It’s obvious. I guess it’s good I don’t use X.
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No Meatball 😢
Uh oh... you didn't watch until the very end, did you?
@@RPGPunditQuit at the Like & Subscribe & Share part. But I just watched from there to get my dose of cuteness ❤
I want to hear what J Scott Garibay has to say about this
LOL
What do you think of Steve Jackson Games? Heard the Old West book has a lot of good setting materials. I don’t want to give anymore money to people that hate me though.
If you mean the old GURPS 3e(?- I think) era historical book, then yes it's pretty good.
What do you expect when most of the Hasbro/WotC suits come from the video game industry (specifically Microsoft Games)?
Yes, this is exactly what to expect from them.
Congratulations on being right again, but all anyone had to do to be right on this question was to listen to the people at Hasbro/WotC. I’m amazed (and disappointed) that anyone could think that Hasbro wants physical books to figure prominently in the future. It takes a heroic level of willful ignorance to disregard everything Hasbro says and does.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to your review of One D&D, as soon as WotC sends you a free promotional copy.
I doubt very much that will be happening!
This is the kind of news that, if I still even remotely cared about WotC, would be upsetting. As is, it is just more jovial schadenfreude material.
Stay classy, WotC! Send the Pinkies into the Matrix to fetch back $1.00 digital capes or something.
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What's most hilarious, is that they TTRPG players to suddenly shift games and go all-in, on a platform they haven't even finished making yet.
Hasbro also seems to want players to commit to microtransactions, before they even start playing.
WOTC expects Network Effects and Revealed Preferences to work in their favor, and they have good reason to believe that it will work for them.
@@MrBCWalker01 - Maybe you don't know their history with this, but WotC tried to make a VTT in both 3e and 4e. Their tech sucked, and no one was even slightly interested. Now, they're trying the same thing, but going up against fully online VTT platforms, in which players have already invested.
Their sales pitch? _"But our platform will have endless pay-to-win microtransactions!"_
I just don't see it happening.
@@fleetcenturion I do, because WOTC is incentivized to make their VTT the only option for playing at all.
@@MrBCWalker01 - 5e still exists. The OSR will always exist. Tabletop players prefer to play in person, and already have numerous other options to play online, when there's no table.
The only demographic I see this appealing to, is neckbeard shut-ins, who prefer a virtual DM... and only then, once they unlock the option to roll to seduce the tavern wench!
@@MrBCWalker01 5e still exists. The OSR will always exist. Tabletop players prefer to play in person, and already have numerous other options to play online, when there's no table.
The only demographic I see this appealing to, is n3ckbeard shut-ins, who prefer a virtual DM... and only then, once they unlock the option to roll to səduce the tavərn w3nch!
I simply have stopped with 5e. I do still have it and many books for it but I have no intention of going any further with D&D and WoTC, as I have NO interest in VTT AT ALL. So, my table players have gone with me to Kobold Press/Zobeck campaign. Go where ever, D&D, I leave you behind just as I did with 4e. You got me back for a while with 5e, but, bye bye.
Check out the OSR!
+1
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VTT may be good at fights. But honestly the 4th edition was more appropriate for such treatment. It was very tactical rpg, with a lot of interesting fights and almost none role play mechanics. 5th edition is opposite, we have a lot of fun role playing with simple fight mechanics. So for me VTT is completely useless with current and future edition. You know for what I would like to have VTT? To Polish rpg Neuroshima: Postapokaliptyczna gra fabularna. Check it out and see how what is Polish take on apocalypse in the USA. Why, because its mechanics are non intuitive and I had to simplified theme for my players.
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As often as you're right, it often indicates that the decline continues on schedule.
Yay...
True, but that's not my fault.
@@RPGPundit Certainly not. Can't blame the dude pointing out the building is on fire.
it is time for the rest of us, especially those who fretted over TSR killing the game (repeatedly for may years), to buckle down, support the community, and not allow the wotc crowd any new funding. the 2024 books are designed to kill the community and make way for VTT - so just don't buy them. VTT will premiere no matter what, whether it's wanted or not - just don't sign up for it. those shills and their fanbois don't need our support, either - just don't like, sub, or comment and they'll be gone soon enough. so long as 5e and earlier, purer sources are available (legally or otherwise), what's left of the community will survive until another corporation buys D&D from the soon-to-be-bankrupt hasbro (rinse lather repeat)...
There's also the OSR!
@@RPGPundit as we have seen last year, that will not stand between hasbro and what coins their executives might try to cheat from their customers. come their VTT, i assure you that they will do everything to make it the ONLY route to D&D...
Well, that's what their proposed OGL revision was trying to do, but the backlash was so severe they had to go the other way and made the 5e rules Creative Commons. So they are going to have a very hard time stopping people now.
@@RPGPundit they merely miscalculated thinking the community would roll over the same way MTG community continually does. in there minds eye, nothing changed. they still needed the community's support - and still do, for now. once the VTT is established, they figure on dropping anything preventing VTT from being the only way to play - that includes the OGL...
@@CruentusV but the Creative Commons thing means they can't. They could restrict the crap out of any NEW mechanics if they wanted to, but everything that came before is now free to use in perpetuity
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The VTT graphics look like theyre playing warcraft, it's lame
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There is a reason that American Jews vote over 70% Democratic. Most American Jews are rational. One thing you were wrong about, Shadowdark is still kicking butt? How many Ennies did Baptism of Fire get again?
LOL when you think "ennies" are anything but a rigged game, and have been for years.
Least informed political takes on the internet. And that's saying a lot.
Coming from Jake Dimbulb, that's an interesting stance from a rabid CNN apologist.