Carl Czerny - Piano Concerto in a minor, Op. 214 (1829) - Audio + Sheet Music
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- Dedicated to Méreaux, Czerny's Piano Concerto in a minor is perhaps one of the most virtuosic piano concerti composed in the classical style, Czerny's piano concerto in a minor features a compendium of pianistic techniques developed during the early Romantic era.
David Boldrini - piano
Rami Musicali Orchestra, conducted by Maestro Massimo Belli
(from the album "Czerny & Viotti: Piano Concertos" released under Brilliant Classics).
"The Piano Concerto in A minor, Op 214, was composed in Vienna in 1829 and published the following year. It is dedicated to the French musicologist and composer Amédée Méreaux (1802-1874) who-like Czerny, and his present obscurity notwithstanding-is best known for his piano studies. (His time will come; many of his 60 Études, Op 63, are of great interest and even more difficult to play than those of Alkan.)
Some see the A minor concerto as one of the earliest Romantic concertos penned. To others it is a transitional work with elements of the many brilliant piano and orchestra works already celebrated in this Hyperion series but with many backward glances to the concertos of Hummel, Weber and Field. The first movement’s opening material is used in various guises throughout the work, its solo part described by one writer, Lorenzo Ancillotti, as ‘a true compendium of the technical difficulties that pianists of the time were likely to address’. The initial ideas, incorporating some surprising modulations, eventually subside into a second section (8'43") in A major and D minor.
After a return to the original theme and key, Czerny introduces another subject (12'00"), presented at first in F major. Much of the delicate filigree writing is set an octave above the stave-and brilliant it is, too, as the soloist storms home after what must be one of the longest suspensions in any concerto before the inevitable release back into the tonic.
The adagio second movement is in the dominant key of E major and forms no more than a contrasting link to the finale, a 2/4 rondo marked allegro con anima-‘in a spirited manner’. ‘Spirited’ might be construed as an understatement given the demanding solo part, a relentless succession of semiquaver triplets, dancing arpeggios and scales in thirds designed to astonish and entertain in equal measure. A short chorale episode at 6'30" is the only let up for the pianist as the work bowls towards its conclusion leaving the listener in no doubt as to the key of the concerto."
- Description by Jeremy Nicholas (2017) from Hyperion Records
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I'm grateful to the TH-cam user Johann Rufinatscha, who originally uploaded the recording to TH-cam.
Sheet Music download link: imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto... - เพลง
Movements:
I. Allegro moderato
II. Adagio con moto - 16:33
III. Rondo: Allegro con anima - 20:40
Danke schon
Czerny and Hummel......the true Early Romantic masters.....utterly untouchable......personally the absolute best!
Don't forget Kalkbrenner and Moscheles
Ever heard of Cramer and Dussek and Weber?
Make sure to overdose on some Ferdinand Ries too
Student of Ludwig van Beethoven , teacher of Franz Liszt .
Good student, ad teacher
No one could doodle quite like Czerny
The Czerny piano concertos are almost divine, not only for the sensitivity but also for the amazing music produced. For me Czerny was one outstanding compositor, perhaps one of the greatest that ever existed so far. The slower moments are so sublime with incredible harmony and sensitivity. The pianist is superb and the orchestra direction extraordinary . Thanks for this unforgettable recording.
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Great.....BRAVO from Mexico City!
This is Czerny at his best. The more I listen to this concerto to more amazed I am
Strangely, this concerto sounds like Chopin's 1st at some moments, and it's a pleasant surprise.
True!
Hummel’s 2nd even more
Some of the piano solo part is so nocturne-like and dreamy :)
Great piano concerto. Thanks for posting it👍.
I didn’t knew it. I am pretty new to czerny‘s music. But one thing I noticed is that there‘s one guy -I think Czernyer or something - who comments false facts and insults under every czerny music video on TH-cam. He is horrible😂. The music is wonderful
The amazing thing is how musically the pianist and conductor offer this music !I can't believe how musical and well organized and INTERESTING this is ! I was expecting brainless automatic , uninteresting music like that found in op.740.Can u believe Josef Lhevinne recorded the study in octaves ? Some of the passages made me think of Chopin but when I saw the date 1829 I realized Chopin picked up a lot that was happening in his day but the things he did as early as op.10 even the early Mazurkas so ready to be non-tonal show Chopin is a genius unlike any others.If only he had cared for orchestration more. He loved the Missa Solemnis but couldn't understand the late Beethoven symphonies,quartets and Sonatas. Czerny really shows he had an individuality all his own ! I'm going to find his 4hand works and others !
Divinely charming and crystal clear performance
Thanks!!!! Its a big job
Thank you for your support.
Indeed!!! This concerto has always been one of the favourites of mine, and having the possibility to enjoy it with the score is priceless. Many many thanks!!!
@@kermit979797 Great!
Haha
7:37 Reminds me of Prokofiev Concerto No.3, 1st mvt.
Wonderful work. Delightful and fill of energy. Worthy of being part of the standard concerto repertory
Beautiful!!! 👏👏👏
Este concerto es una maravilla! No entiendo como prácticamente ninguno de los mas grandes pianistas y orquestas le da un lugar en su repertorio.
Porque son personas sin capacidad de expander su cultura, Czerny es el mejor compositor! No todos estan listos para esta conversación
@@czeynerlamentemusical8048 El problema es el "repertorio". El "repertorio" es un producto de mercado como lo son los salchichones y los jamones. Algunos gustan más y venden más y algunos se venden mejor.
@@czeynerlamentemusical8048 Estos conciertos son "mejores" que los de Beethoven y ciertamente son muy superiores, eso sí claramente, a los de Mozart. Pero nadie los toca. Es como la música para piano de CPE Bach que es mucho más interesante que la de su padre, pero ¿quién estudia a CPE Bach en los conservatorios? Pues nadie.
4:45
Amazing!!!
another great, beautiful, amazing, strong, delicate piece composed by the great CZERNY, no one is like him. Why is he so underrated and not famous he should be more famous and well known as the father of music. This is better that that mozart, beethoven, liszt, no one can challenge him. Also subscribed to your channel, and liked.
Glad you appreciate it, thanks for subscribing.
lmao sure
But is it better than Sorabji or Ives? 🤣
L'introduzione orchestrale, per tanti aspetti, sembra davvero un'anticipazione del Concerto in mi minore di Chopin!!!
Wonderful. Some times I have to listen to this concerto many times a week :P The opening theme is so strong. Also I can't help but notice the "His time will come", wow I wonder if they will start recording Méreaux commercially? I wonder when Méreaux met Czerny as well.
Have you heard Czerny's Piano Concerto in F? That's the one I have not yet heard. In any case which do you prefer, the a minor or d minor concerto?
I think there will be a complete recording of the Mereaux studies by Cimirro. Of what I have heard.
@@Santosificationable I haven't heard the one in F, tried searching in youtube couldn't find, do you know if it is recorded somewhere?
I do not like to pick favorites or say what is better in music, both are good :)
About Cimirro recording I already knew it, but I mean, the description wasn't by Cimirro. So I guess someone else is planning to get into Méreaux as well? Honestly I'd like to see someone doing something else than his studies, Cimirro is already doing it anyways.
@@pawncube2050 you can hear the extracts here: m.th-cam.com/video/jZDkd3rDAoI/w-d-xo.html . This one sounds like a seriously beautiful concerto and likely the most lyrical out of the three. Too bad i don't have access to the full recording. Fortunately the score is on imslp. For more info: www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dw.asp?dc=W19659_68138
I see you were referring to the other Mereaux pieces. I'm not that familiar with Mereaux actually, but the few studies i've heard seem pretty powerful musically contrary to what hamelin said. Yes it would definitely be great to have performances of mereaux.
@@Santosificationable I just took a look, seems like Czerny has quite a few concertos: Op 28, op 38(this one seems interesting, a concerto for 2 pianos and 3 people, no orchestra? Interesting combination), op 78, op 80(concerto for piano and flute or violin, very interesting too, and the structure is of a theme and variations, 7 variations), op 153(piano 4 hands and orchestra, interesting too), op 214, and his D minor concerto that seems to have no opus. So 6 concertos, but what interests me is many of them have very different instrumentation, for example, his op 38, I can see what he meant, probably one piano would be the accompaniment, with 2 people for an orchestral range, and the other would be the "soloist". Seems like a good idea if there are not many musicians to make a full orchestra near you, you just find 2 pianos and other 2 people and there we go, a full concerto :D
About Méreaux, I have been doing research in him to "uncover" who he was in the musical history, I read several newspapers that quoted him, documents and other. I also transcribed 3 pieces from him and I am currently transcribing another, that is a very interesting one, a variations concertantes. The introduction alone is 4 pages long, took quite some time to transcribe. But in it you have lots of very good ideas, if someone told you its Liszt and you didn't know you wouldn't question. Also its one of the few non-etudes Méreaux gave a tempo marking, seems like he only gave tempo markings for etudes and concert pieces. About Hamelin, let's be honest, he is a very good pianist but he had no idea what he said on that interview, he just picked the piece he considers the worst and based Méreaux all out of it, I doubt he saw more than 10 etudes.
@@pawncube2050 you seem pretty keen on mereaux. Hats off to you.
I saw your comment on my new video, and thanks for subscribing. Though I need to upload a newer version since I made a mistake on it. Will do so soon. :)
Nice
Thankyou! What piano is used in this recording?
probably a yamaha cfx9
Rare footage of Czerny not writing some studies
Wonderfull👍👍👍Were can I get the Notes?
sim. to Hummel ~ Pn. Ct. #2 (a min.)
他の作曲家のピアノ協奏曲はどれも技術的に難し過ぎて、上級者でもアマチュアには歯が立たないが、この曲ならツェルニー50番後半やクラマー=ビューロー後半まで進んでいる人なら曲は長いけど何とか弾けそう。ツェルニーの総仕上げって感じ♥️😊
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A synthesia version would be stunning but I guess it would take a lot of time
I wish there was a midi file for his Etude Op. 364.
3:15 Beethoven 3rd?😏
First movement is played about at 116, the indications of Czerny an impossible 138 😅
aha a Winters fan. Well maybe ask you master to play the Adagio in double-beat? So that would become Adagio con moto, sixteenth note 126, the first chord should sustain for almost eight seconds. Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
The halve 138 is of course not impossible, just very fast.
The passage given by WW is a fallacy: Czerny himself tells you to play that slower because of the distant key-relation and the amount of notes in the right hand, which force the left to go slower.
Also in Hummels piano school (pp. 429 and following) you find a very detailled description of how to play his piano concerto in a-minor, with LOTS of unmarked tempo changes... Wim knows this (or should).
@@benjaminachron1493 Came here from Wim's post too. So what's the story behind these crazy tempo markings, if Czerny tells us to play slower? Wim's been posting a lot of those "impossible" passages lately
@@TheFlamingPiano yes, I know. The problem is that there is an explanation for all of them, except the Mereaux etude (this IS a misprint, as a comparison of the note values will show...).
For instance: the Hummel transcription of Jupiter symphony just reproduces the orchestral bowings. Of course it's no problem for the violins to play it at speed (we hear it every day...). There is no reason to articulate after the slur (and Hummel doesn't ask you, only for slurs of 2 and 3...). So playable, and not even hard.
The Döhler exemple has been sight-read at speed by a violinist (!!!), even without the marked rit.
Litolff Scherzo: is played to at this speed always, the runs are divided between the hand, actually pretty comfortable.
The runs in Beethovens op 27 sonata (slow movement): Czerny tells you to play embellishments of this type slower, 'forcing the bass to slow down'. This has nothing to do with rubato playing of melodies, but is a seperate chapter of the piano school.
Czerny etude in double notes: perfectly playable at single-beat. Not even hard.
Thalberg etude: possible, challenging but what did you expect of one of the greatest virtuosi of the time? The argument that a lot of pianos at the time didn't have double escapement is true, but bollocks. Thalberg was an Erard player.
Octaves in Dreyshock: tough at single-beat, but there is a rit, and it is an quasi-improvised prelude, so some freedom is certainly in place.
The problem is that Wim looks at these numbers totally outside context, and that most of his devoted followers are extremely bad pianists, who just think anything fast is impossible, or 'elistist'. But the 19th century was an age of competion between the elite, and they loved it.
@@benjaminachron1493 Thanks a lot for the explanations! Interesting, regarding another piano school for Beethoven's op. 27/1. ...And definitely these pieces are possible for Horowitz and Cziffra.
Also wanna add, the thing about Hummel and piano transcriptions in general is that you can't always expect the solo pianist to replicate the whole orchestra at full speed.
@@TheFlamingPiano Czerny's description is actually from the same op 500 as his famous discussion of how to play Beethovens works. You have to read those parts BEFORE taking on the Beethoven chapter to know what he was trying to say.
But when Wim says or implies that you have to play these runs in the speed of the rest of the movement, he is either lying or doesn't know his sources. Czerny is very clear (third part of piano school, pp. 32 and following in the German original).
And indeed, a transcription is a transcription of course. But many transcribers have put in as much info as they could (like indicating orchestration) and kept the phrasing and bowing of the original.
Can someone explain to me how to play the passage at 7:37 ?
Left hand plays the chords with down stems using the fingers 5 4 2, above the right hand.
Right hand plays the up stem chords, under the left hand, using fingers 2 3 5.
the first part is too moderato in my opinion
after seeing this ..... how are there people who dare to say that the rachmaninov concert is the most difficult?
Czeyner La Mente Musical because the Rachmaninov concerto is harder than this piece. Don’t be a fool yourself. There is a reason why this concerto faded into obscurity.
Actually, i think rach 3 is harder than this, Both musicality and technicality ,after all, the hardest Concerto ever written are Busoni's Op.39 ,Ligeti Concerto, Prokofiev 2, and maybe Rachmaninoff or Alkan Op.39.
One more thing, because this is a minor concerto ,i would like to say that schumann and grieg a minor concerto were better
@@Chorizo727 the only thing that remains. in the dark is your comment, the truth is different and you are not a pianist, better go fly a plane because I remember that you said to yourself, here you have no voice or vote
@@devosiagian9578 not really, Rachmaninov's concert is easier than his full version sonata 2, don't talk about music without knowing, and it seems to me that Rachmaninov's concert musically doesn't offer anything
@@Chorizo727 estás bien pendejo 😂
I just can't understand something. Why is he always known for his pedagogical bases for piano technique, and not for being a great composer. I find his compositions really great and superior pieces of work. Some famous composers, such as Felix Mendelssohn, are so mediocre, and they are considered great.
This makes Chopin sound like a plagiarist.