New Leon is genuinely sick of everyone's sh*t and just wants to go home and eat some tacos or something, OG Leon is loving every minute of the adventure
@@tylerrichardson3034 Leon from RE2 is still the base and Dante from original DMC is one of the possible takes on the character-evolution of that base. So no. Dante is the one who is derivative.
@ringard5172 Except they weren't using Leon as the base for Dante, he was an original character and then after they chose to use Leon for 4 they made him more Dante like. RE4 Leon is the derivative.
In the original RE2, Leon was much more driven to help people compared to remake, where he approaches everyone with a gun and acts entitled. Re4 Leon is still just as straightforward as remake's isnt.
@@TheCompleteMental Well you gotta remember, he literally didn’t even get one full day as a police officer. He was a greenie in the middle of a shitstorm, and somehow came out on top. In RE4 remake I think military service has humbled him a bit (though still has his jokes).
@@LazyDarwinit could be like that meme where it goes “If I don’t make it into a joke it will destroy me”. In a world where zombies and monster exist not surprising you’d lose a few scews in the way you cope dealing with them
@@theamazingspooderman2697 its not really pretending its a big joke, its literally accepting what is going on infront of you is fucked and finding an emotional outlet to calm yourself and keep yourself focused and releasing the stress from those situations.
No matter how "cheesy" or "corny" OG Leon's dialogue got, Paul Mercier delivered those lines with so much conviction and confidence, they're widely beloved and considered iconic to this day.
@@Ivory5547 I prefer the og merchant, the new one talks too much and repeats lines often, it gets annoying. After the first "gun rhymes with fun..." I was like ok shut up now lol
@@foxsmith770 Repeats lines often? Have you ever heard the original? The new one has so many different lines now compared to original, not only for general stuff but special purchases and sales too.
I somehow got a feeling that Capcom is trying to tone down the "male fantasy" much, OG Leon was a real badass, he doesn't talk much and had a real sarcastic tone to the enemies, they even got to the point of changing the story, for example is in the og, Leon immediately went for the first to the plaga removal chair, while in the remake they made it that he and Ashley are already in a critical state so Ashley had to be first anyway in the dangerous procedure
In the original's files it's said the whole operation was done in a rush since they couldn't trust many agents after Ashley was kidnapped cause it was clear someone who had access to confidential informations was involved (Krauser), that's why Leon was sent in a solo mission in Spain to find informations about Ashley's whereabouts, so it actually made sense that they didn't even have codenames and everything, Leon was sent in europe as soon as the intel got informations about the sighting of a girl who looked like Ashley in a rural area of spain.
What I like about the original "I got gum" line from the original is that it was a subtle call back as well as some character growth from original resident evil 2 where leon started with the lighter in his inventory. The reason he had it (according to the manual) is that he's a smoker. Gum is sometimes used as a substitute for cigarettes for smokers trying to kick the habit. So him only having gum was a subtle way of informing the player that leon stopped smoking as well as being a fun and cheesy line.
giving that context - in the remake he says ''y'know those things are gonna kill ya'' giving a simpathy air from luis since leon used to smoke too, giving a brother advice of some sort and at the end, when luis is dying, leon lights his cigarrete in respect for luis - and since he is already dying
My favorite part about OG Leon is the first time he meets Saddler, he starts talking to him like he's been his arch nemesis for years. He's so perfect in that role, he turns the whole game into something magical.
OG's a Gigachad. I loved when he would taunt him about the "Senior Moment." situation that Salazar was having while having a laugh at all of the enemies failures and weirdness the entire game.
No. DMC1 was created from a discarded beta version of RE4, after the developers discovered a glitch that allowed Leon to hover in midair while shooting.
@@Ghost_of_James_Doakes Which means Dante was made first, because what would become DMC1 was an earlier draft of what would become RE4. That being said I'm pretty sure they just shared a model, "Tony Redgrave", is who the NotE4 protag was going to be, not Leon. Though they considering how he turned out, I'm sure Leon took quite a bit from him personality wise and not just his model.
His mental issues come from having relive that nightmare that was the raccoon city outbreak and Nick (leon) perfectly portrays him as that, expanding the character compared to the og, making it more realistic.
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@@baddiegaming758 Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
It would have really benefitted the game to have them communicate with Leon, especially Saddler since he wasn't in the game as much as OG. Back in the day I loved the "senior moment perhaps" part a lot and the Salazar talks. It made these villains more intimidating but gave them personality as they took over Leon's coms and gave no more since Hunnigan was our go to coms when things were going chaotic. I do like Luis and Ada's coms talks but we didn't need much compared to villains who have less screen time. In the og I wanted so badly to beat that little shit Salazar in the og because he was always taunting Leon, being one step ahead due to Saddler's plans and once you get to those points you get gratification knowing you finally beat that nuisance that taunted you all through the castle. Plus it would have helped lore wise with some of them telling Leon why they are such a threat, having Salazar briefly explain his family lineage or Saddler speaking of his family or motivations and why in his views he is right as the best villains always imagine themselves as the heroes. Wesker said it best: "I'm not destroying the world, I am curing it".
@@martistheartist7494agreed on your point of "it could give them a chance to explain their backstory" but it DID NOT made them look more intimidating at all hell even the OG was aware of that since leon always made fun of them like: "Saddler you are small time" "Your left hand comes off?" "Don't remember being part of your crappy Script"
@@martistheartist7494 Nah but still i mean i understand that this leon is more grim but man i guess my nostalgia gets the better of me since i want good ol' leon sarcastic kennedy
Well, if you were saddled with the shrieky baggage that was OG Ashley, you'd think you were too cool for her, too. Remake Leon is trying to maintain an older-brother frame, because (1) that's more calming to a frightened girl, and (2) making her feel capable makes her less afraid and less baggage-y.
@@unimpartialobserveralso, if you're in the secret service like Leon, you're going to end up in a bad place if you're caught doing things to the president's daughter.
He didn’t say “you’re too good for me” it seems like he just let her down easy this time instead of just jumping to no lol, which I’m fine with because remake Ashley is 20 times more likeable
New Leon sounds like a more realistic take on canonical Leon who is depressed and has survivor’s guilt who still brings the corn, but OG Leon just kills me with the old lines.
@@selenophile5256 hey, basically this new canonical version that the comment guy mentioned refers to the new approach that capcom is taking in remakes of the original games, so basically if you want to know more about Leon's story, play the resident evil 2 remake (if haven't already played) which tells the story of the raccon city incident, chronologically 6 years before the resident evil 4 remake. And you will understand why leon is like that in re4.
@@rorschach1985ifyAre you saying Leon shouldn't carry himself like someone who survived one of the most horrifying experiences, escaped said city HOURS before it was blown to hell, and watched multiple people die?! Leon doesn't have to be a cartoon character, treating him like a real person who's been through hell and trying to deal with it makes him much more relatable and as a result makes him finally conquering this trauma extremely satisfying. I understand if you prefer the original version and to it's credit it's absolutely hilarious and fun for it's own reasons. It's like comparing Adam West Batman with Christopher Nolan Batman, both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
I adore the remake. That said, the OG Leon's character design and voice acting are just... timeless. He has a cold, indifferent air about him that feels totally badass.
@@LordMalice6d9 I'm glad we have you here to teach us all about how horribly cringe the OG RE4 dialogue was, LordMalice6d9. Anyone with a name like that definitely knows what they're talking about.
@@goonmaster9000 LOL. Only had this user name, because the name "DarthMalice" as a Star Wars reference was already taken. And btw. I do know what I am talking about!
The act itself is all the reason one needs. Chad on every level, even if he make several airheaded decisions. But then again, a true chad lets the villain monologue instead of just peppering him with lead on the spot doesn't he? Classy.
I might be biased, but I definitely love Leon from the original RE4. He just has the perfect cheesy lines It's the perfect cheesy transition to RE5 where Chris punching a big boulder, just because he can xD
I do like og leon, but I think they were trying to keep a consistent tone throughout the remake so some of the og lines might have broken that up a bit.
@calvintorgerson9686 true, the intent of the remake was clearly to focus on the story rather than being goofy. I'm glad they did this since it shows they weren't trying to replace RE4, just modernise it for newer fans
I see why ashley was so afraid at Leon at first sight, it's because Krauser kidnapped her, she thought it was just another type of Krauser coming to get her again.
I'd say the new voice actors and actresses are all good, except Ada. The original games voice actors and actresses did it very well. They really went in with the cheesiness.
@@LostCosta I don't like any of them. Even Ashley feels...Off. Ashley in the OG felt like a 20 year old college student. She was annoying and out of water in this scenario and it felt appropriate. Ashley in the remake feels like a 35 year old woman writing a 35 year old woman, and such as rescuing her feels not nearly as good. She doesn't feel as helpless and it doesn't really match the game's tone.
Both leads to the same result through differant mean. Serious no nonsense modern Leon makes you feel safe because you get the feeling dude is a professional, and a professional at zombie apocalypse is definitly someone youd want protecting you. Ultra confident relaxed Leon makes you feel safe because dude seem so casual about the whole Shite you feel like theres nothing to fear
I really miss Ada's flirtism with Leon in the OG. You can tell that despite her allegiances, she doesn't want Leon to die. Even that "put your hands where I can see them" part looked more like a dance than an actual fight.
@@billybro1403 Way superior. IN the REMAKE, they scrapped a lot of cutscenes and kept the game running, like when the wolf shows up again. Modern gamers think that's good, and immerses them more. But personally I like that the pace of the original RE4 gets broken up by little cutscenes. They also had way better facial animation, and the aesthetic of the game was better. Triple A gaming with photo realistic graphics makes everything look the same, it doesn't spark your imagination, and that - Is why most modern games kind of stink a little. The Remake is fine though, it looks like it plays fun. It's just too bad the Original still plays better lol
@@aceghostrus122 Hey if you like it better man, more power to you right? I still think the original both plays better, is animated better, and it doesn't take itself super seriously. They feel like two completely different games. The remake is by no means a bad game, but it's a completely different flavor 👌
The OG interactions between Leon and Salazar were some of the best from original. Bro had Salazar getting more and more pissed off at his refusal to die 😂
Salazar is more resistant to trolling, you can shoot the same device and he'll just laugh it off Edit : well I just realized the reason why, that just mean we're provoked by his taunts
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@@amiramri3032 In regard to tone, story, gameplay and character (remake Ashley and Luis is top tier) I also like Leon as a progression of his past from RE2 Remake.
There’s something about Paul Mercer’s cadence as Leon. When he quips, he has this patronizing tone. Lines like “your right hand comes off?” are said in a sarcastic, yet almost serious tone, as if he’s making himself out to be stupid, yet he’s just mocking them by giving them a response they aren’t used to. It isn’t fear, anger, but a comical retort.
It actually makes more sense this way, tbh. Leon grumbling about smoking being bad for you early on gets recontextualized when Leon lights Luis's cig for him. Just that tacit acknowledgment that Luis is dying, and that he's earned Leon's respect. It wouldn't hit the same with "got gum" being the prelude to it.
@@unimpartialobserver in resident evil 2 Leon starts with a lighter on his inventory, implying that he's a smoker. In resident evil 4 he has gum, implying that he quit smoking and is chewing gum to help with it (known fact for people who are trying to quit smoking). Remake didn't do that better.
This new Leon is great because it feels like a natural progression from what he was like in RE2. But OG RE4 Leon is great as this separate interpretation from what OG fans got from him in the original 2. He feels more like an action hero, or a comic protagonist. He's cool, skilled at what he does, and blatantly doesn't care about anything in the plot. He's the perfect personality for the original game.
@@ws6778 i mean in the original he was called the rookie cop because it was his first day as a cop during the raccoon city outbreak. so thats why the remake team stick to him as the rookie as well. Personality i like the remake more but else the OG Leon take the cake
Part of why I loved the original was the anime-esque, over the top absurdity of everything. The choreography looked straight out of an 80's Japan action movie. All while somehow maintaining the terrifying aura of the world as a whole. Blood and death and corpses surrounding our protagonist at all times, but Leon acting like it's another day on the job. The man is truly fearless at this point. I see what they were going for in the remake, but the hyper realism doesn't translate very well to what the 2005 version was going for. Narratively, and setting-wise. I missed seeing Leon doing double backflip pirouettes into a knife attack from the third floor of a building... And how he would hit on every woman in the game (except for Ashley lmao)
@cuttrogue ironically, the remake was heavily censored. It's missing a bunch of stuff that made the atmosphere of the original so terrifying. The crucified, disembowled corpses, mutilated animals, mass graves... ALL GONE If they were going for a more realistic, grounded approach, that was the ONE thing they should have gotten right. I mean it's a Resident Evil game for Christ's sake
@Mister_Clean I know. Not only censored, but blatant corners cut - Mike's crashed chopper is completely missing and replaced by a silly little fire in the distance. In the og you could even inspect the crash cite with an interractible prompt. Missing details like this spoil the whole remake.
@@cuttrogueIt was westernized lmfao. Poor remake, still can have fun in it but that creepy, unshakable "Silent Hill" ambiance is missing from the game. Seeing the corpses of the villagers that tried to fight back.. Jesus..
@@TheDinohunter2000 that doesn't even make sense since you expect one man on his first day to save entire city that's doomed before he arrives. Also funny because he does save at least two people. You are not a dumbass my ass.
@@TheDinohunter2000 It's not because you had to drive through a bumpy road that you can't evolve and learn to go forward. Failure teach you more than success in a lot of subject. Believe it or not...
People finally realizing part of the comparison Crowbcat made. It was not about which one is better, but which one is more rich on personality. Leon is part of the strong equation of the OG's soul.
@@mattersondoom it is basically the difference between Kevin Conroy as his iconic DC Superhero & Will Friedle playing Batman with at least an attempted matured voice following Kevin's legacy. Will does almost sound like Nick A in some instances, given the delivery of the line. One is iconic and the other is a good substitute/mentor student.
@@mattersondoomi like voices they feel more real and sound more soothing especially Ada’s voice and designs in RE2 remake and RE4 remake are miles ahead compare to OG one
Then you're gonna have a blast playing Devil May Cry. OG leon is practically Dante, and it's the closest we'll ever get from a devil may cry x resident evil crossover.
It sucks that they removed some of the old lines but nice that they referenced them as challenge names like “doing some overtime” and “your small time” challenge.
To be honest, they sound more like an afterthought with the single purpose to reference the OG randomly for NoStAlGiA, since some of them look out of place, given the change of tone.
4:11 I just wanna point out that, for a more realistic remake, remake Leon shoots a barrel and it explodes, but OG Leon shoots the gasoline, sets that on fire, and the flame goes up into the barrel, causing it to explode, which is more realistic.
*2000's Leon:* has seen all kinds of shit, survives, learns to cope with it through humor *2020s Leon:* has seen all kinds of shit + additional military trauma, has not learned to come to terms with it yet and still questions what happened Different Leons for different takes of what happened in Raccoon City + Darkside Chronicles. I like both of them. 2000s Leon is great because of the nostalgia and closing the era of old style RE/Capcom. 2020s Leon is great for grounded and realistic character development thanks to the era of RE7/8/2make/4make.
Yeah i feel like re engine force to change leon personality due to how dark and scary the atmosphere is i can see how unfitting og leon would be in new graphic tone. Og leon in 2000 never experience darkness and scary moment once because how bright the game is
The whole grounded take is so stupid. People have different ways of coping with trauma, both versions are realistic enough given the human emotional spectrum.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire He had to be nerfed because the new Leon is a PTSD soy boy longing for his mommys embrace. If they didnt nerf Krauser, everyone would secretey be thinking.. "Shit!, this guy eats PTSD boy Leons for breakfast!"
@@miguelbranquinho7130what the actual fuck are you talking about? There isn’t a single person who would randomly think that. Clearly besides you who calls him a fuckin “soy boy”😭😭😭
To be fair this all happens over the course of the night and she probably isn’t trying to get particularly attached to anyone in her kidnapping scenario, even if they seem like they’re a good guy.
Old is super fkn gold composing, ambiant sounds, lines of dialogue and voice acting in the original was LEGENDARY also the enemies spanish accent was perfect and thier creepy dialogues has been etched in our memories (... 2005 i'll never forget it)
Ramake: "Leon, you've been radio-silenced for 3 hours" Leon:"I'm fine." OG: "Leon it's been 6 hours since our las trnasmission, I was starting to get worried" OG Leon:" Don't you mean lonely?"
Personally I love both of them, although the OG has a special place in my heart, the new one is exactly what I thought what Leon would realistically be and they nailed it.
@@sebastian6121 What I really mean is that new Leon is more consistent with his trauma from RE2 where as OG Leon feels like he knows he's apart of a fictional world and is playing along with it. Regardless if you like the acting, I think "realistically" it makes more sense.
@@sebastian6121 when most people say re4 remake is realistic they are comparing it to the OG game. Which is true Leon is more grounded in the remake, hes alot more realistic he actually gets scared, hes a bit depressed aswell.
the remake isnt bad but there are still things I liked in the og, like the 1st meeting scene with Ada, I really liked how Leon pulled a really fast reversal. Also I like the og dress for Ada better. For me though the best part in the remake is how Leon shoots Salazar to shut him up from his monologue
People who miss Ada's cocktail sheath have never tried to do anything while wearing one. Seriously, that was easily the most unrealistic part of the OG. (inb4 someone comes along to snowflake about how she regularly does Olympics-level gymnastics in a tight corset, stilettos, and hoop earrings because lol what's medical science)
@@unimpartialobserver You kinda have a point here, but on the other hand, I found some pretty amazing gymnastic done by girls in dresses in YT, so not so impossible. +I think realism was not the very point of the OG Re4 But in Remake it make sense tho. In so grounded and realistic game some woman-spy in red dress might looks weird
@*Angel* Yt i think VA for remake Leon did a great job here, if the script requires chad Leon like the old RE4 i think he'll kill it too. The other perfect cast in the remake is Salazar VA (for me at least).
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@*Angel* Yt Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
I kinda like the new darker tone of the Remake, but cutting content and changing Leon's one liners were not very welcoming to me. Still a fantastic game, tho.
Paul Mercier as Leon is like Jon St. John as Duke Nukem. A lot of objectively bad lines that are sold so well, they are eternally quotable and awesome.
"Won't fall for this old trick" Implying that Leon has been dropped into a 500 foot hole with spikes at the bottom several times in the past And he also somehow realizes that Salazar had a listening device at the bottom to hear the impalement of his enemies Everything is so great
They had the audacity to remove one of Leon's most memorable lines: "Saddler, you're small-time". In fact, they just straight up removed Leon and Saddler's interactions on the radio. That sucks.
honestly most of the villains coincidentally having radios was really strange, and they knew the exact frequencies to use, I mean yeah its cheesy fun but it bugged me alot back then
@@Motivation_snack6668 I mean they still could have put those conversations thanks to the speakers, they really underutilized that. Salazar and specially Sadler lost a lot of their charm from OG.
Meh, i guess it makes sense lore wise but still, i think they took sad boy leon a bit too far. He stills acts like a innocent leon from Re2 from time to time too which is kinda weird.
its actually a WEIRD cut too, because when leon is sent into the hole, theres no context that youll be fighting the big bug man without that dialogue, its lazy.
@@whywasmyrealnamehere How does the right hand comment enhance the story telling in any way? It was literally included in the original as comedic relief lmao. Y'all are bots in this comment section lmao
@@walberparker7111 Ah yes cause the emotional talks he has with Ashley, his clear trauma from raccoon city as discussed with Ada, and his funny with interactions with Luis are clear indications of a character with no personality. The real issue is that he doesn't have the personality YOU want which it's ok to have that opinion. However, the rest of us that would actually like a mature story will gladly take our new multi-faceted protagonist rather than another a shallow hero that feels unsolicited comments towards women's bodies are cool
@@TheGreatestSpy4life mature story? I played the remake first and having a character have trauma isn't the peak of storytelling. The most emotional Leon got in the entire remake was holding Ashley's hand when they were removing las plagas from her. The rest of the game he has the same face dropping worse one liners than in the og, this remake is like if I remade DMC3 but Dante was all sad and serious the whole game because his mom is dead. If remake Leon was what we got on 2004 he wouldn't be even half as loved as he is. Without mentioning how both Ramon and saddler are way more bland here unlike in the OG where every time Leon fucks with them is comedy gold. In general the remake just feels less alive than the og, more generic and forgettable I'll admit the death of Luis was better in the remake though, the voice actor nailed it, but the removal of the "I got gum" line is very sad because it's a really funny and smart way to show Leon quit smoking instead of "those things can kill you"
God, the original has so much charm. And while I love the remake’s reimagining, the OG Leon is just iconic to me. Every villain in the OG is iconic. The remake just doesnt have that effect
@@GrugGangGrugGang RE4 remake is a fun video game that was made to be fun to play, and in bonus you have a meaningful story that isn't just there to activate your dopamine receptors
1:24 Funny thing about this part right here, in the remake's Japanese dub, Leon still says he's got gum. Not sure why that line remained untouched in Japanese though.
yeah, and in japanese og re4 leon says “story of my life” as his catchphrase alot, but now its returned although im unsure since even tho i couldve got og biohazard in jp, i wanted to get the american version so that i could see the gore
I respect the new guy for that video where he talks highly of his appreciation for the original and I think he even met him and was inspired to become a voice actor from him. He even said he wanted more cheesy lines so I think he is a cool guy, I have more issues with the writers than the voice actor.
Wow, that moment at 8:03 with that music hitting at just the right moment is like a warm, fuzzy wave of comfort and relief washing over me. Love the way the actors delivered their lines! So great!
I really liked the original's first face off with ada because Leon's knife really was a better weapon for the situation since ada tried doing some crazy shit to recover control of her pistol. In the remake she basically has no reason not to just step back and shoot Leon in the face after he charges or while he's redirecting her barrel ACROSS his body
@@darius-og I've always said this. If there is any one person she has any loyalty to despite her nature, it's Leon. And it's simply because he's one of the straight up nicest characters in the series who took the 'protect and serve' part of being a cop seriously.
@@1810jeff Actress that played Ada in Welcome to Racoon City voices her in 4make. Technically more accurate voice ethnicity wise, but i much prefer her 2make va
I still don't think the more "realistic" approach in the remake was necessary, considring how unreal this whole story and the game's mechanisms are. Realistic dialogue in RE7&8 seems fine but I don't need an "immersive experience" in RE4
I think the original vibe and nonchalant attitude of the characters and especially Leon fit the times of when the game came out. Noone cared about a great or well written story, most games were just about playing as a badass guy who enjoys the thrill. That kind of got old because too many games were like that which is why they changed his character and made the game a little more real and relatable
ethan winters wasnt meant to be in this situation, leon was in military training for 5 years, it changes you... the protagonists of the games are vastly different in personality and experience
I like that in the remake, Leon sticks to codenames. However, I do find he's got a lot less confidence and bravado than in the original, which is a shame because I thought Leon's cheesy lines were a big part of the fun.
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
The codename thing was kinda dumb tho. Leon literally says "The President's daughter, baby eagle" What was the point of the codename when he says exactly what it means 😂
@@BlazeVentureZone The reason he deals with it so well is because the writers don't make it apart of his character. He basically could have been a new character who never went through trauma and it would still work. They acknowledge in the new one that Leon is trying to deal with it and still makes quips and cracks jokes, it's just not his main personality trait like in the original.
@@BigBossIvanI disagree. Leon shoots first, asks questions later in the remake. I prefer that Leon. OG Leon let's Salazar and Saddler ramble too much. The remake Leon is more bad hass and doesn't have the patience for their bull.
@samspade8830 New Leon was also way more boring, and less entertaining. Yes og was a lil Cheesy but so are the Japanese people cheesy humor is part of their culture, new Re4 was more realistic, but old Re4 was more entertaining.
@@syminite1 Calling Leon "boring" is subjective. I like the realistic approach. Cheesy characters are for children, in my opinion. I want a realistic story. I want a grounded character, not a cheesy one. But if you like cheesy Leon, that's your right. Also, calling Japanese people "cheesy" is subjective. Remember, it's the Japanese who developed RE4 Remake, so clearly they can write serious video game stories with serious video game characters.
I still can't believe the:"No Thanks .... Bro!" Was a line that was actually recorded by a professional voice actor and put into a real commercially released product.
The original RE4 is literally James Bond or Indiana Jones but it's a Halloween episode so there's zombies and monsters involved. It's completely and utterly unique in its tone and atmosphere I really don't think it could ever be replicated. The remake is a good game for its own reasons but it definitely doesn't capture the "soul" of the original.
@@pleaserespond3984 and that's an end of any discussion about this. So tired that games now trying to make everything serious and dark, rather then stylish and fun, like the original mikami vision. Sad
Man, I used to look forward to remakes as a way to introduce the new generation to old classics. But now I know that remakes are made in modern times, and cannot leave alone, let alone recreate what made the old games great.
I don't know, I'm young, but old enough to have experienced the original RE4, and I still prefer remake Leon. But that's also because I have a preference for characters with more realistic depth; I'm not really big on characters that are all one-liners and little else. And this is coming from someone who enjoyed the original Leon.
@@ZehShugugn Both can be pretty realistic? One person doesn’t need to be all brooding because of PTSD, people have different ways to hide their trauma. OG Leon used jokes.
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Animation for OG characters are super fast and impact ful and CHAD
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@@codehunk3669 the neck destroyer himself
God damn it OG Leon fking awesome. Remake is nonsense.
All the “cut content” was retooled and every section was expanded except for the suspended crate holders. This statement aged like milk.
New Leon is genuinely sick of everyone's sh*t and just wants to go home and eat some tacos or something, OG Leon is loving every minute of the adventure
😂
Pretty much how I feel after missing the last blue medallion in the remake
Just like us the players
I mean wouldn’t you be if you haven’t had a vacay since 1998?
Yeah
I swear that OG Leon just knows he's the main character and is just enjoying it
And so the players.
@@betorockmetalFax
Remake Leon is cohesive with the history. (RE2)
@@TipoIrritable remake Leon is soulles dog water filler guy
@@Hjj.sjsjzkskRemake Leon is the badass gubernamental agent who actually know what’s he’s doing.
OG Leon it’s a Jackie Chan wannabe, cliche af
RE4 remake: PTSD
RE4 original: featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
Lol
Yeah, it's always funny how Dante is the derivative of Leon, and castle locations in first Devil May Cry is basically first iteration of RE4.
@@ringard5172It's more like RE4 Leon is the derivative of Dante. That version of the game was before they made Leon the protagonist.
@@tylerrichardson3034
Leon from RE2 is still the base and Dante from original DMC is one of the possible takes on the character-evolution of that base. So no. Dante is the one who is derivative.
@ringard5172 Except they weren't using Leon as the base for Dante, he was an original character and then after they chose to use Leon for 4 they made him more Dante like. RE4 Leon is the derivative.
Man old Leon is just a giga chad. Paul Mercier truly made Leon comes to life.
Nah it’s like 2 different paths re4 remake he has survivors guilt from re2 and in re4 he got the biggest ego from what happened
In the original RE2, Leon was much more driven to help people compared to remake, where he approaches everyone with a gun and acts entitled. Re4 Leon is still just as straightforward as remake's isnt.
Ah yes comes to life
@@TheCompleteMental
Well you gotta remember, he literally didn’t even get one full day as a police officer.
He was a greenie in the middle of a shitstorm, and somehow came out on top. In RE4 remake I think military service has humbled him a bit (though still has his jokes).
Leon Re4R: Surviving
Leon Re4: Enjoying RE4 himself
@@LazyDarwinnd that's exactly why they changed him up
@@LazyDarwinit could be like that meme where it goes “If I don’t make it into a joke it will destroy me”. In a world where zombies and monster exist not surprising you’d lose a few scews in the way you cope dealing with them
@@LazyDarwin Leon gotten use it over the years.
@@s2wuolf508 yeah something like if they pretend everything's a big joke then when time comes they can become serious
@@theamazingspooderman2697 its not really pretending its a big joke, its literally accepting what is going on infront of you is fucked and finding an emotional outlet to calm yourself and keep yourself focused and releasing the stress from those situations.
No matter how "cheesy" or "corny" OG Leon's dialogue got, Paul Mercier delivered those lines with so much conviction and confidence, they're widely beloved and considered iconic to this day.
Let's not forget he also voiced the Merchant in the original.
@@Ivory5547 I prefer the og merchant, the new one talks too much and repeats lines often, it gets annoying. After the first "gun rhymes with fun..." I was like ok shut up now lol
@@foxsmith770 Repeats lines often? Have you ever heard the original? The new one has so many different lines now compared to original, not only for general stuff but special purchases and sales too.
Don't forget Ada's "Kiss and Tell" line. The Remake changed "kiss" to "work". So lame.
I somehow got a feeling that Capcom is trying to tone down the "male fantasy" much, OG Leon was a real badass, he doesn't talk much and had a real sarcastic tone to the enemies, they even got to the point of changing the story, for example is in the og, Leon immediately went for the first to the plaga removal chair, while in the remake they made it that he and Ashley are already in a critical state so Ashley had to be first anyway in the dangerous procedure
New Leon : story of my life
Old Leon : W O M E N
It's like New Leon's perspective is wider than Ada's butt.
It's like new Leon isnt from 2004, when the story is set. Instead he's afraid of being cancelled.
@@ignotumperignotius630 no, it’s just most people don’t say sexist stuff anymore
@@ignotumperignotius630 agree, same reason for Ramon Salazar that looks old, cause Leon afraid of being called "child abuse" 😂
@@Palebloodess except for woketards, who say sexist shit against men all the time...
They shouldve kept the "got gum" one cuz i loved his sarcasm in the original 😭
R4 remake: "Roost, this is Condor One"
OG R4: "It's Leon"
That perfectly sums up the difference between the two. One is more serious while the other is more relaxed.
You know what funny is?
Ramon Salazar still know leon name even his use codename when contact with hunnigan.
@@LunaR34 probably because they all connected to a "holy body". Thats why salazar knows his middle name
@A guy who lifts or because Krauser probably warned them that leon would be sent after ashley
In the original's files it's said the whole operation was done in a rush since they couldn't trust many agents after Ashley was kidnapped cause it was clear someone who had access to confidential informations was involved (Krauser), that's why Leon was sent in a solo mission in Spain to find informations about Ashley's whereabouts, so it actually made sense that they didn't even have codenames and everything, Leon was sent in europe as soon as the intel got informations about the sighting of a girl who looked like Ashley in a rural area of spain.
Remake Leon's attitude is where I'm at
OG Leon's attitude is where I want to be
So accurate! I'm mostly Og Leon with people. But remake Leon is very much me in real tho.
Its the difference between a boy and a man
Felt that one on a personal level. 😂
@@miguelbranquinho7130 .... No?
MVP comment
What I like about the original "I got gum" line from the original is that it was a subtle call back as well as some character growth from original resident evil 2 where leon started with the lighter in his inventory. The reason he had it (according to the manual) is that he's a smoker. Gum is sometimes used as a substitute for cigarettes for smokers trying to kick the habit. So him only having gum was a subtle way of informing the player that leon stopped smoking as well as being a fun and cheesy line.
giving that context - in the remake he says ''y'know those things are gonna kill ya'' giving a simpathy air from luis since leon used to smoke too, giving a brother advice of some sort
and at the end, when luis is dying, leon lights his cigarrete in respect for luis - and since he is already dying
I didn't know that
Leon never smoked his lighter was a keepsake from his father you would know that if you were a real fan
@@TheRealTact Don't sound so condescending.
@@TheRealTact man, the second part was just plain unnecessary, dont say things like that
My favorite part about OG Leon is the first time he meets Saddler, he starts talking to him like he's been his arch nemesis for years. He's so perfect in that role, he turns the whole game into something magical.
OG's a Gigachad. I loved when he would taunt him about the "Senior Moment." situation that Salazar was having while having a laugh at all of the enemies failures and weirdness the entire game.
RE4 Leon is throwing out one liners because he knows he used be Dante and embraces it
RE4R Leon is throwing out one liners to cope with PTSD
Yeah, the cheesyness from the OG makes sense once you realize Leon was supposed to be Dante. 😂😂😂
No. DMC1 was created from a discarded beta version of RE4, after the developers discovered a glitch that allowed Leon to hover in midair while shooting.
@@sturmbnnuy other way around big dog
@@Ghost_of_James_Doakes Which means Dante was made first, because what would become DMC1 was an earlier draft of what would become RE4. That being said I'm pretty sure they just shared a model, "Tony Redgrave", is who the NotE4 protag was going to be, not Leon. Though they considering how he turned out, I'm sure Leon took quite a bit from him personality wise and not just his model.
The realest comment here
I'll never forgive CAPCOM for cutting "no thanks bro" from the remake
at least they put it in a achievement
too toxic and masculine i guess
@@NumbDigger22 I think they've gone for a more serious Leon that understands the severity of the situation.
they told us to "do better"
No way Pawel
Remake Leon looks more depressed than the original version
The OG Oone looked like he was doing some part time job here
OG leon is the smoothest dude on the planet
I’m pretty sure it’s just depression over him having to kill his zombified comrades. Also he was trained by Krauser so I see why he’s serious
His mental issues come from having relive that nightmare that was the raccoon city outbreak and Nick (leon) perfectly portrays him as that, expanding the character compared to the og, making it more realistic.
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@@baddiegaming758 Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
New Leon: Motivational Speaker
OG Leon: I AM THE MOTIVATION
Vergil?
Genuinely devastated they took out the villains hacking into Leon's communicator
Ikr, just when the game looked like it gone as far as it could, they opened up a whole new world of entertainment.
It would have really benefitted the game to have them communicate with Leon, especially Saddler since he wasn't in the game as much as OG.
Back in the day I loved the "senior moment perhaps" part a lot and the Salazar talks.
It made these villains more intimidating but gave them personality as they took over Leon's coms and gave no more since Hunnigan was our go to coms when things were going chaotic.
I do like Luis and Ada's coms talks but we didn't need much compared to villains who have less screen time. In the og I wanted so badly to beat that little shit Salazar in the og because he was always taunting Leon, being one step ahead due to Saddler's plans and once you get to those points you get gratification knowing you finally beat that nuisance that taunted you all through the castle.
Plus it would have helped lore wise with some of them telling Leon why they are such a threat, having Salazar briefly explain his family lineage or Saddler speaking of his family or motivations and why in his views he is right as the best villains always imagine themselves as the heroes. Wesker said it best: "I'm not destroying the world, I am curing it".
@@martistheartist7494agreed on your point of "it could give them a chance to explain their backstory" but it DID NOT made them look more intimidating at all hell even the OG was aware of that since leon always made fun of them like:
"Saddler you are small time"
"Your left hand comes off?"
"Don't remember being part of your crappy Script"
@@carlosescamilla5260 Yeah that is my bad I shouldn't have used intimidating or whichever phrase I put.
@@martistheartist7494 Nah but still i mean i understand that this leon is more grim but man i guess my nostalgia gets the better of me since i want good ol' leon sarcastic kennedy
Leon remake: you don't need me, you're too good for me 😥
Leon original: hehe, sorry, I'm too cool for you
Well, if you were saddled with the shrieky baggage that was OG Ashley, you'd think you were too cool for her, too.
Remake Leon is trying to maintain an older-brother frame, because (1) that's more calming to a frightened girl, and (2) making her feel capable makes her less afraid and less baggage-y.
@@unimpartialobserver nah og is a chad
@@unimpartialobserveralso, if you're in the secret service like Leon, you're going to end up in a bad place if you're caught doing things to the president's daughter.
@@ferdinand5223 true that, even if he tried to stay professional, no way she would let him.
He didn’t say “you’re too good for me” it seems like he just let her down easy this time instead of just jumping to no lol, which I’m fine with because remake Ashley is 20 times more likeable
New Leon sounds like a more realistic take on canonical Leon who is depressed and has survivor’s guilt who still brings the corn, but OG Leon just kills me with the old lines.
Of all that nothing would have happened, had he just kicked the apple juice addiction and continued the Redfield Lineage.
Where to find more of cannonical leon ? I am new to this franchise ?
"Realistic" is an overrated term for a series inspired by cheesy 80 action horror movies.
@@selenophile5256 hey, basically this new canonical version that the comment guy mentioned refers to the new approach that capcom is taking in remakes of the original games, so basically if you want to know more about Leon's story, play the resident evil 2 remake (if haven't already played) which tells the story of the raccon city incident, chronologically 6 years before the resident evil 4 remake. And you will understand why leon is like that in re4.
@@rorschach1985ifyAre you saying Leon shouldn't carry himself like someone who survived one of the most horrifying experiences, escaped said city HOURS before it was blown to hell, and watched multiple people die?!
Leon doesn't have to be a cartoon character, treating him like a real person who's been through hell and trying to deal with it makes him much more relatable and as a result makes him finally conquering this trauma extremely satisfying. I understand if you prefer the original version and to it's credit it's absolutely hilarious and fun for it's own reasons. It's like comparing Adam West Batman with Christopher Nolan Batman, both have their own strengths and weaknesses.
wolf : Staring at leon
leon : hey ITS THAT DOG!
I adore the remake. That said, the OG Leon's character design and voice acting are just... timeless. He has a cold, indifferent air about him that feels totally badass.
Except for the facepalming. Cringe dialogue. Even as a 16 year old playing og RE4 for the first time it made me cringe.
@@LordMalice6d9 keep us posted, mr cringe
@@AydarBMSTU no thanks, bro!
@@LordMalice6d9 I'm glad we have you here to teach us all about how horribly cringe the OG RE4 dialogue was, LordMalice6d9. Anyone with a name like that definitely knows what they're talking about.
@@goonmaster9000 LOL. Only had this user name, because the name "DarthMalice" as a Star Wars reference was already taken.
And btw. I do know what I am talking about!
Hunnigan: "I'm starting to get worried."
Leon: "Don't you mean lonely?"
lol they made him so much chad for absolutely no reason at all
The act itself is all the reason one needs. Chad on every level, even if he make several airheaded decisions. But then again, a true chad lets the villain monologue instead of just peppering him with lead on the spot doesn't he? Classy.
@@CountSpartula Yeah, he can say his boring crap, nothing will change that I am saving the 19 year old.
@@CountSpartula A true Chad impaled the villian hand with his knife and made him cried like a bitch
@@haivuong7956no, a true chad shoots the villain in the head because he's sick of his monologues.
@@rockycuro7737 Salazar was annoying as fuck in the original RE4 so humiliated him feel better
I might be biased, but I definitely love Leon from the original RE4. He just has the perfect cheesy lines
It's the perfect cheesy transition to RE5 where Chris punching a big boulder, just because he can xD
I do like og leon, but I think they were trying to keep a consistent tone throughout the remake so some of the og lines might have broken that up a bit.
@@calvintorgerson9686i agree
Tbh i think they added alot more character to everyone on the remake
@@rodrigomusicman1871 Not everyone, og re4 Salazar and Saddler has more characters than the remake ones.
@@rodrigomusicman1871everyone except ada i think, idk I just feel like ada voice is lame it's like the va is just reading without any tone
@calvintorgerson9686 true, the intent of the remake was clearly to focus on the story rather than being goofy. I'm glad they did this since it shows they weren't trying to replace RE4, just modernise it for newer fans
Re4 Remake: "I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THIS! I JUST WANNA GO HOME AND BE DONE!"
Re4 og: "No thanks, bro"
Rest in piece Mike, you were the bro who never came home.
never got to know the good bar
Mike?
@@DarkStallion101 the helicopter pilot
@@mikulover12 really wanted to see that bar scene after he promised us alchol
i mean the chopper blew off. i think he defo rest in piece. or pieces
I see why ashley was so afraid at Leon at first sight, it's because Krauser kidnapped her, she thought it was just another type of Krauser coming to get her again.
Great observation, that makes a lot of sense.
@@classicjadeysschambers4578😂😂😂😂
@@classicjadeysschambers4578 I don't know why, but this made me chuckle.
@@classicjadeysschambers4578 lmaooo
It's dumb how Leon approaches her in the remake tho. Dude what was a cop acts like he has no idea how to console a scared woman.
The voice actors of the remakes sure made a fantastic job, but Capcom's 2000 game's voice acting is just LEGENDARY.
I'd say the new voice actors and actresses are all good, except Ada. The original games voice actors and actresses did it very well. They really went in with the cheesiness.
RE4, Onimusha 3, Street Fighter 4, DMC3... all had perfect VA
Remake Ada sounds like a mother who slipped too much nyquil in her morning martini
Agreed but I personally didn’t like krauser
@@LostCosta I don't like any of them. Even Ashley feels...Off. Ashley in the OG felt like a 20 year old college student. She was annoying and out of water in this scenario and it felt appropriate. Ashley in the remake feels like a 35 year old woman writing a 35 year old woman, and such as rescuing her feels not nearly as good. She doesn't feel as helpless and it doesn't really match the game's tone.
Og Leon makes me feel more safe for some reason
That was kind of the point. By being sassy not only he made himself and Ashley feel safe in a horrifying situation, but the player as well.
In serious situations ya gotta have humour.
He has the confidence of a man open carrying a Chicago typewriter
And that's why that Ashley didn't run from him
Both leads to the same result through differant mean.
Serious no nonsense modern Leon makes you feel safe because you get the feeling dude is a professional, and a professional at zombie apocalypse is definitly someone youd want protecting you.
Ultra confident relaxed Leon makes you feel safe because dude seem so casual about the whole Shite you feel like theres nothing to fear
I really miss Ada's flirtism with Leon in the OG. You can tell that despite her allegiances, she doesn't want Leon to die. Even that "put your hands where I can see them" part looked more like a dance than an actual fight.
Yes, because it was shot better. There's a load of shots in the original that were done better with the camera
I feel the cinematography of the original was better.
@@billybro1403 Way superior.
IN the REMAKE, they scrapped a lot of cutscenes and kept the game running, like when the wolf shows up again.
Modern gamers think that's good, and immerses them more.
But personally I like that the pace of the original RE4 gets broken up by little cutscenes.
They also had way better facial animation, and the aesthetic of the game was better. Triple A gaming with photo realistic graphics makes everything look the same, it doesn't spark your imagination, and that - Is why most modern games kind of stink a little. The Remake is fine though, it looks like it plays fun.
It's just too bad the Original still plays better lol
@@zion6680 you are way too full of nostalgia. The remake is way better in every way possible.
@@aceghostrus122 Hey if you like it better man, more power to you right?
I still think the original both plays better, is animated better, and it doesn't take itself super seriously. They feel like two completely different games.
The remake is by no means a bad game, but it's a completely different flavor 👌
While I love the “No thanks bro” from OG, I love that Leon straight up shoots Ramone instead of letting him monologue lol 😂
Thats just rude
Leon: "So anyway, I started blasting."
Should’ve said no thanks bro and started shooting 😂 best of both worlds
@@user-br9nd1zq4o 🤣
" No thanks bro! " *Headshoot
That's most likely because most people would just start shooting than listening first lol.
Remake Leon: Story of my life..
OG Leon: Heh.. Women ☕
Wamen 🍵
But doesn't og leon say "story of my life" at the end though!
@@kawaiipie5475 yea but this comment is sarcastic... i think.....
At least he is not gay
Your GOODDAM Right Leon 💜💫👑👌
New Leon: "Hey, its that dog." 😒
Old Leon: "HEY! IT'S THAT DOG!" 🤩
New Leon: "HASTA LUEGO!" 😠
Old Leon: "Hasta Luego." 😘
I'll never forgive capcom for removing "your right hand comes off?"
The OG interactions between Leon and Salazar were some of the best from original. Bro had Salazar getting more and more pissed off at his refusal to die 😂
Salazar is more resistant to trolling, you can shoot the same device and he'll just laugh it off
Edit : well I just realized the reason why, that just mean we're provoked by his taunts
well, they removed one of my fav line: "No thanks, Bro."
Their radio sessions had one of the most goofiest lines
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
2000s hero: confident, flirty, manly, braggadociously funny.
2020s hero: grim, serious, boyish, funny but not as much
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@@fazelfarrokhi1998 remake is better
@@amiramri3032 In regard to tone, story, gameplay and character (remake Ashley and Luis is top tier) I also like Leon as a progression of his past from RE2 Remake.
@@fazelfarrokhi1998Og Leon simp and clown.
Apt analysis
There’s something about Paul Mercer’s cadence as Leon. When he quips, he has this patronizing tone. Lines like “your right hand comes off?” are said in a sarcastic, yet almost serious tone, as if he’s making himself out to be stupid, yet he’s just mocking them by giving them a response they aren’t used to. It isn’t fear, anger, but a comical retort.
It's a classic Midwestern humor vibe, he nails it.
"When we get back to my place, how about we put in some overtime?"
"NO THANKS, BRO."
The OG Leon was having fun throughout re4 💀
"Shit!.." 😂
after the bullshit in raccoon city
it's a nice change of pace
@@leofwulf268 still doesn’t make sense. Remake do him justice
when you know you have Plot Armor
@@superiorgaming8086 I mean *in universe*
He's basically making the most of the situation
"Got gum" line was my favorite. Such a shame it's not in the remake.
It actually makes more sense this way, tbh. Leon grumbling about smoking being bad for you early on gets recontextualized when Leon lights Luis's cig for him. Just that tacit acknowledgment that Luis is dying, and that he's earned Leon's respect. It wouldn't hit the same with "got gum" being the prelude to it.
*favourite
@@Chris-nn3vu buddy, you realize both spellings are correct, right?
@@unimpartialobserver The got gum line was the subtle way to tell someone they should quit. it'd still work.
@@unimpartialobserver in resident evil 2 Leon starts with a lighter on his inventory, implying that he's a smoker. In resident evil 4 he has gum, implying that he quit smoking and is chewing gum to help with it (known fact for people who are trying to quit smoking). Remake didn't do that better.
Ashley: NO WAY lEoN
Leon: WAy👹✌️✨
It stinks
That convo lives in my brain rent free since 2004. Too bad it was modified in re4re. Ashley just mentions she would dislike the smell in the past
i watched this scene for the first time last week, i love re4 lol
OG Leon made him the most lovable character in RE universe by far
OG RE4 Leon is an American national treasure
he is a prome example of American
We mean the character bro
This new Leon is great because it feels like a natural progression from what he was like in RE2. But OG RE4 Leon is great as this separate interpretation from what OG fans got from him in the original 2. He feels more like an action hero, or a comic protagonist. He's cool, skilled at what he does, and blatantly doesn't care about anything in the plot. He's the perfect personality for the original game.
In the original time-line, Leon's personality is very little consistent between different games.
@@ws6778 i mean in the original he was called the rookie cop because it was his first day as a cop during the raccoon city outbreak. so thats why the remake team stick to him as the rookie as well. Personality i like the remake more but else the OG Leon take the cake
Finally a wise comment ... I wish all people in world was like this ... Then we didn't have to argue all the time.
Finally someone with a brain
Сapcom milked you like a cow. and you are happy about it
OG Leon is absolutely hilarious, gotta love his attitude.
Part of why I loved the original was the anime-esque, over the top absurdity of everything. The choreography looked straight out of an 80's Japan action movie. All while somehow maintaining the terrifying aura of the world as a whole. Blood and death and corpses surrounding our protagonist at all times, but Leon acting like it's another day on the job. The man is truly fearless at this point.
I see what they were going for in the remake, but the hyper realism doesn't translate very well to what the 2005 version was going for. Narratively, and setting-wise.
I missed seeing Leon doing double backflip pirouettes into a knife attack from the third floor of a building... And how he would hit on every woman in the game (except for Ashley lmao)
Thing is, remake is still goofy but in a bad, flat way not in a charming and awesome way the original was.
i feel like resident evil village did a better job at capturing the absurd vibe of original re4 in a realistic manner than the re4 remake did
@cuttrogue ironically, the remake was heavily censored. It's missing a bunch of stuff that made the atmosphere of the original so terrifying. The crucified, disembowled corpses, mutilated animals, mass graves... ALL GONE
If they were going for a more realistic, grounded approach, that was the ONE thing they should have gotten right. I mean it's a Resident Evil game for Christ's sake
@Mister_Clean I know. Not only censored, but blatant corners cut - Mike's crashed chopper is completely missing and replaced by a silly little fire in the distance. In the og you could even inspect the crash cite with an interractible prompt. Missing details like this spoil the whole remake.
@@cuttrogueIt was westernized lmfao. Poor remake, still can have fun in it but that creepy, unshakable "Silent Hill" ambiance is missing from the game. Seeing the corpses of the villagers that tried to fight back.. Jesus..
In the original Ada had a nice soft pillow to land on and in the new one she just hits the metal floor like a rock
She's kinda deserve it.
That actually hurt my knees just to hear
Well to be fair, her ass is phat in the remake 😂 she got the cake that Jill should’ve had.
For real. I really flinched when ada fell in remake. That should at least break a bone 😭
@@sakinahsaraswati4428 Leon didn't even try to catch her. :D
Leon in the original is like him knowing that he wins in the end so he's kinda laid back compared to the stressed leon in the remake
To me it felt like he's a true hero - no matter the stakes he will be confident with his abilities and give it his best. A true badass
@@AydarBMSTU yep, way better than the sad emo kid from the remake
@@AydarBMSTU That doesn't even make sense since he failed in saving anyone from Raccoon City lol. Hero my ass.
@@TheDinohunter2000 that doesn't even make sense since you expect one man on his first day to save entire city that's doomed before he arrives. Also funny because he does save at least two people. You are not a dumbass my ass.
@@TheDinohunter2000 It's not because you had to drive through a bumpy road that you can't evolve and learn to go forward. Failure teach you more than success in a lot of subject. Believe it or not...
Krauser original voice is bad ass
His original voice actor retired in 2020 this is the first game Jim Ward isn’t voicing Krauser
I like it so much better. Wasn't really a fan of the remake version. It didn't really fit him to me
" Now we're talking "
new one goes "RookEEEE" every fucking 5 seconds
“It’s been a long time, comrade…”
People finally realizing part of the comparison Crowbcat made. It was not about which one is better, but which one is more rich on personality. Leon is part of the strong equation of the OG's soul.
Yes re4 og is better
I'd pick OG Leon anyday, the voice alone is enough for me to like him more.
Remake Leon is great, but OG Leon is iconic
OG Leon is more entertaining which is what matters the most.
@@mattersondoom it is basically the difference between Kevin Conroy as his iconic DC Superhero & Will Friedle playing Batman with at least an attempted matured voice following Kevin's legacy. Will does almost sound like Nick A in some instances, given the delivery of the line. One is iconic and the other is a good substitute/mentor student.
@@mattersondoomi like voices they feel more real and sound more soothing especially Ada’s voice and designs in RE2 remake and RE4 remake are miles ahead compare to OG one
Then you're gonna have a blast playing Devil May Cry. OG leon is practically Dante, and it's the closest we'll ever get from a devil may cry x resident evil crossover.
that charisma is one of the most important things in his personality
it's a part of him he can't let go
It sucks that they removed some of the old lines but nice that they referenced them as challenge names like “doing some overtime” and “your small time” challenge.
To be honest, they sound more like an afterthought with the single purpose to reference the OG randomly for NoStAlGiA, since some of them look out of place, given the change of tone.
And “women☕️”
4:11 I just wanna point out that, for a more realistic remake, remake Leon shoots a barrel and it explodes, but OG Leon shoots the gasoline, sets that on fire, and the flame goes up into the barrel, causing it to explode, which is more realistic.
And safer
Remake Leon failed school
Ashley: No way
Leon : way
Always gets me🤣🤣
Me too 😂
Most underrated scene in the whole game imo
For me “ *W O M E N* ☕️ “
*2000's Leon:* has seen all kinds of shit, survives, learns to cope with it through humor
*2020s Leon:* has seen all kinds of shit + additional military trauma, has not learned to come to terms with it yet and still questions what happened
Different Leons for different takes of what happened in Raccoon City + Darkside Chronicles. I like both of them.
2000s Leon is great because of the nostalgia and closing the era of old style RE/Capcom.
2020s Leon is great for grounded and realistic character development thanks to the era of RE7/8/2make/4make.
An actual reasonable comment with a fair comparison, one of the few ones I’ve seen. Nice.
Yeah i feel like re engine force to change leon personality due to how dark and scary the atmosphere is i can see how unfitting og leon would be in new graphic tone.
Og leon in 2000 never experience darkness and scary moment once because how bright the game is
The whole grounded take is so stupid. People have different ways of coping with trauma, both versions are realistic enough given the human emotional spectrum.
@@DGP406 exactly, it's just used as an excuse now
which means we can ignore everything after 4 and re7 is infact the 5 we should have gotten rather then mr steroids doing a very long pepsi commercial.
Krauser's voice from the original sounds way more badass 😁
OG krauser sounds like he eats buncha Remake Krauser at breakfast
@@btchiaintkidding7837 Yeah let's be honest. At the cost of fleshing him out, Krauser's whole vibe and character was nerfed.
@@ISetYourFaceOnFire He had to be nerfed because the new Leon is a PTSD soy boy longing for his mommys embrace. If they didnt nerf Krauser, everyone would secretey be thinking.. "Shit!, this guy eats PTSD boy Leons for breakfast!"
@@ISetYourFaceOnFirebro what?? Krauser is literally probably the most upgraded villain in the whole game?
@@miguelbranquinho7130what the actual fuck are you talking about? There isn’t a single person who would randomly think that. Clearly besides you who calls him a fuckin “soy boy”😭😭😭
bruhh they turned Salazar into a grandma
20 years old btw 💀
Well, he is supposed to be more grotesque.
theres a mod that adds his hat back and it makes him look a lot better, not sure why they removed it
The fact he doesn't have his hat is the real issue
😂😂😂😂😂
At least Ashley didn't just forget Luis's existence,she actually said something unlike the original where she just walk by his body
To be fair this all happens over the course of the night and she probably isn’t trying to get particularly attached to anyone in her kidnapping scenario, even if they seem like they’re a good guy.
And Luis doesn’t reallllly come across like much of a good guy 😂
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus how did you arrive to that out of your ass conclusion?
Og luis was kinda a 🍆 to her tho so its not surprising she didn’t really gaf 💀
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus insert the ending of both versions
Old is super fkn gold
composing, ambiant sounds, lines of dialogue and voice acting in the original was LEGENDARY also the enemies spanish accent was perfect and thier creepy dialogues has been etched in our memories (... 2005 i'll never forget it)
@@P.sandayo I agree with the cats, new Leon has a butt for a chin.
@@Wiseman108 And a weird sharp caveman brow line.
@@Wiseman108 so what? Butt chins are hot
there is a lot of just grating voice acting in the new one
Guess I'm the only one who loves Remake Leon? Me? Only me? OK moving on
I really miss "No thanks bro" that cutscene was so iconic lmao
Ramake:
"Leon, you've been radio-silenced for 3 hours"
Leon:"I'm fine."
OG:
"Leon it's been 6 hours since our las trnasmission, I was starting to get worried"
OG Leon:" Don't you mean lonely?"
😂
chad energy
feminizm era Capcom reduced those things so women cannot complain
Personally I love both of them, although the OG has a special place in my heart, the new one is exactly what I thought what Leon would realistically be and they nailed it.
no it isn't, is not realistic.
OG Leon had plenty of one liners but Remake Leon is saying them even during boss battles. It completely demolishes any tension.
@@sebastian6121it absolutely is. I’ll buy another copy just for you ❤
@@sebastian6121 What I really mean is that new Leon is more consistent with his trauma from RE2 where as OG Leon feels like he knows he's apart of a fictional world and is playing along with it. Regardless if you like the acting, I think "realistically" it makes more sense.
@@sebastian6121 when most people say re4 remake is realistic they are comparing it to the OG game. Which is true Leon is more grounded in the remake, hes alot more realistic he actually gets scared, hes a bit depressed aswell.
the remake isnt bad but there are still things I liked in the og, like the 1st meeting scene with Ada, I really liked how Leon pulled a really fast reversal. Also I like the og dress for Ada better.
For me though the best part in the remake is how Leon shoots Salazar to shut him up from his monologue
And he start talking again till he really2 died 🤣
So true. New Ada apperel is kinda... bruh(
People who miss Ada's cocktail sheath have never tried to do anything while wearing one. Seriously, that was easily the most unrealistic part of the OG.
(inb4 someone comes along to snowflake about how she regularly does Olympics-level gymnastics in a tight corset, stilettos, and hoop earrings because lol what's medical science)
@@unimpartialobserver it's a game. It's NOT MEANT TO BE REALISTIC. cry harder, femitard
@@unimpartialobserver You kinda have a point here, but on the other hand, I found some pretty amazing gymnastic done by girls in dresses in YT, so not so impossible.
+I think realism was not the very point of the OG Re4
But in Remake it make sense tho. In so grounded and realistic game some woman-spy in red dress might looks weird
If they had kept all of Leon's old one liners, he would have been the Chaddest of Chads.
@*Angel* Yt i think VA for remake Leon did a great job here, if the script requires chad Leon like the old RE4 i think he'll kill it too.
The other perfect cast in the remake is Salazar VA (for me at least).
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@*Angel* Yt Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
@@fazelfarrokhi1998 remake is better
I kinda like the new darker tone of the Remake, but cutting content and changing Leon's one liners were not very welcoming to me.
Still a fantastic game, tho.
OG Leons voice is just so smooth, and don't get me started on his lines.
Paul Mercier as Leon is like Jon St. John as Duke Nukem. A lot of objectively bad lines that are sold so well, they are eternally quotable and awesome.
The lines were objectively bad?
Excuse you!?
@@Mayhzon No Thanks... Bro!
Using the word objectively subjectively will never be not funny
Hope you understand the definition of objectively by now rookie
Wish they kept OG Krauser's voice. He sounds way more badass than the remake
I dont. Krauser in the Remake is more psychotic and crazy compared to OG Krauser.
New Krauser sounds like a Menace, While Old Krauser sounds an actual Leader or Real boss
9:00 LMFAO WHY WOULD THEY DELETE THAT SCENE I LOVE IT.
"Won't fall for this old trick"
Implying that Leon has been dropped into a 500 foot hole with spikes at the bottom several times in the past
And he also somehow realizes that Salazar had a listening device at the bottom to hear the impalement of his enemies
Everything is so great
@Mister_Clean the trap door is a classic trope in the movies, probably what he meant
pretty much everything they omitted or changed is a downgrade.
@@Mister_CleanIt implies that it's a cliché thing cartoony villains do as an old and cheesy trick of theirs.
Like bruh what you on about
OG Leon is and will always be superior. His banter with the villains in OG 4 made the game. He was charismatic, fearless, and badass.
Man has been through 3 or 4 apocalypses at this point.
It's just another day on the job
"Saddler, YOU'RE small time."
Fr
OG leon is trying too much, just sound ridiculous
@@ni9274nice bait
They had the audacity to remove one of Leon's most memorable lines: "Saddler, you're small-time".
In fact, they just straight up removed Leon and Saddler's interactions on the radio. That sucks.
They communicate telepathically through plagas hallucinations
Same with Leon and Salazars communications.
honestly most of the villains coincidentally having radios was really strange, and they knew the exact frequencies to use, I mean yeah its cheesy fun but it bugged me alot back then
@@Motivation_snack6668 I mean, they replaced it with Luis and Ada. So it’s still unrealistic
@@Motivation_snack6668 I mean they still could have put those conversations thanks to the speakers, they really underutilized that. Salazar and specially Sadler lost a lot of their charm from OG.
Hot take: I love that we got to see both the campy AND sad boy Leon. I feel both interpretations have their merit
Meh, i guess it makes sense lore wise but still, i think they took sad boy leon a bit too far. He stills acts like a innocent leon from Re2 from time to time too which is kinda weird.
Sad Leon acts more accurate for his experience.
OG Leon sounds like what Sad Leon will be like in 10 more years of this Umbrella/zombie garbage.
Why they cut the "Your right hands comes off?" Line...unforgivable
its actually a WEIRD cut too, because when leon is sent into the hole, theres no context that youll be fighting the big bug man without that dialogue, its lazy.
@@whywasmyrealnamehere How does the right hand comment enhance the story telling in any way? It was literally included in the original as comedic relief lmao. Y'all are bots in this comment section lmao
@@TheGreatestSpy4lifeby making Leon have a personality
@@walberparker7111 Ah yes cause the emotional talks he has with Ashley, his clear trauma from raccoon city as discussed with Ada, and his funny with interactions with Luis are clear indications of a character with no personality.
The real issue is that he doesn't have the personality YOU want which it's ok to have that opinion. However, the rest of us that would actually like a mature story will gladly take our new multi-faceted protagonist rather than another a shallow hero that feels unsolicited comments towards women's bodies are cool
@@TheGreatestSpy4life mature story? I played the remake first and having a character have trauma isn't the peak of storytelling. The most emotional Leon got in the entire remake was holding Ashley's hand when they were removing las plagas from her. The rest of the game he has the same face dropping worse one liners than in the og, this remake is like if I remade DMC3 but Dante was all sad and serious the whole game because his mom is dead. If remake Leon was what we got on 2004 he wouldn't be even half as loved as he is. Without mentioning how both Ramon and saddler are way more bland here unlike in the OG where every time Leon fucks with them is comedy gold.
In general the remake just feels less alive than the og, more generic and forgettable
I'll admit the death of Luis was better in the remake though, the voice actor nailed it, but the removal of the "I got gum" line is very sad because it's a really funny and smart way to show Leon quit smoking instead of "those things can kill you"
God, the original has so much charm. And while I love the remake’s reimagining, the OG Leon is just iconic to me. Every villain in the OG is iconic. The remake just doesnt have that effect
That's called nostalgia
@@ni9274 That's called a fun video game that was made to be fun to play.
@@GrugGangGrugGang RE4 remake is a fun video game that was made to be fun to play, and in bonus you have a meaningful story that isn't just there to activate your dopamine receptors
@@ni9274 Not as good as the original. And a good story activates your dopamine receptors regardless.
@@Razumen It's more fun to play than the original because the gameplay is better than the original
1:24 Funny thing about this part right here, in the remake's Japanese dub, Leon still says he's got gum. Not sure why that line remained untouched in Japanese though.
It's up to the localisation team.
@@ShamliseG We got the woke western localization team. :D
What about the ballistics?
@@reiryghts639 Not in the game, in English or Japanese.
yeah, and in japanese og re4 leon says “story of my life” as his catchphrase alot, but now its returned
although im unsure since even tho i couldve got og biohazard in jp, i wanted to get the american version so that i could see the gore
Old leon is awesome. New one is cool too but the older version on a whole other level
I respect the new guy for that video where he talks highly of his appreciation for the original and I think he even met him and was inspired to become a voice actor from him. He even said he wanted more cheesy lines so I think he is a cool guy, I have more issues with the writers than the voice actor.
yea new voice actor guy is cool@@rorschach1985ify
Wow, that moment at 8:03 with that music hitting at just the right moment is like a warm, fuzzy wave of comfort and relief washing over me. Love the way the actors delivered their lines! So great!
Sounds like frutiger aero
Fr that was honestly a very cute moment
RE has a lot of those moments with that type of music, especially in the early games. Warm is the perfect word for them.
Paul Mercier,Such A Legendary Voice Actor....
I think that we all can agree that the original is the Chad here even if he has lower graphics
Graphics still look pretty good in the original
Still
Hotter
@@BigGreen945 yes the graphics are good in both but the remake are better although the original is more of Chad
Original is more stylized. Remake just looks like every other modern game
@@DrStabkill This is the most accurate comment ever written.
I really liked the original's first face off with ada because Leon's knife really was a better weapon for the situation since ada tried doing some crazy shit to recover control of her pistol.
In the remake she basically has no reason not to just step back and shoot Leon in the face after he charges or while he's redirecting her barrel ACROSS his body
well, it's because clearly Ada didn't want to shoot Leon at all, in both RE and OG, and they both knew that, it's their way of flirting
Yeah, but Leon’s knife in the remake is the one Marvin gave to him in RE2. That little detail alone is cool enough to make me like it.
That’s crazy that 50 people have liked this when Ada clearly has or never will want to kill Leon.
@@darius-og I've always said this. If there is any one person she has any loyalty to despite her nature, it's Leon. And it's simply because he's one of the straight up nicest characters in the series who took the 'protect and serve' part of being a cop seriously.
@@darius-og Then why is he fighting back in the first place? Dumb argument.
Lily Gao's Ada absolutely cannot hold a candle to Sally Cahill's Ada from the original.
Dress > Turtleneck
I suspect it came from whoever directed her voice, wasn't ada better in the re2 remake? If so it wasn't the voice actress but the director.
Becky Gao vs Stacy Cahill
@@BananaMana69 honestly i love the turtleneck
@@1810jeff Actress that played Ada in Welcome to Racoon City voices her in 4make. Technically more accurate voice ethnicity wise, but i much prefer her 2make va
I still don't think the more "realistic" approach in the remake was necessary, considring how unreal this whole story and the game's mechanisms are. Realistic dialogue in RE7&8 seems fine but I don't need an "immersive experience" in RE4
It makes a lot of sense
I think the original vibe and nonchalant attitude of the characters and especially Leon fit the times of when the game came out. Noone cared about a great or well written story, most games were just about playing as a badass guy who enjoys the thrill. That kind of got old because too many games were like that which is why they changed his character and made the game a little more real and relatable
ethan winters wasnt meant to be in this situation, leon was in military training for 5 years, it changes you... the protagonists of the games are vastly different in personality and experience
I like that in the remake, Leon sticks to codenames. However, I do find he's got a lot less confidence and bravado than in the original, which is a shame because I thought Leon's cheesy lines were a big part of the fun.
Yes right thank you re4 ORIGINAL is better than remake cut content and changes and realisem drama dark serious OG leon is badass cool dante action hero
I think the new one is more realistic and fits his character. The old one was funny though.
The codename thing was kinda dumb tho. Leon literally says "The President's daughter, baby eagle" What was the point of the codename when he says exactly what it means 😂
@@fazelfarrokhi1998 cool but no one asked
@@nicholas7154 Haha that’s exactly what I was thinking
OG Leon had sas. New Leon is taking it a little too seriously
The whole world is at stake, I don't think you can take that "too seriously" 😂
Nah new Leon is sick of everyone’s shit and wants to go home
Remake Leon really needs some therapy. 😂 The OG can deal with PTSD just fine that's why he is loved that much.
It's almost as if it's a serious situation he is in 😳
@@BlazeVentureZone The reason he deals with it so well is because the writers don't make it apart of his character. He basically could have been a new character who never went through trauma and it would still work. They acknowledge in the new one that Leon is trying to deal with it and still makes quips and cracks jokes, it's just not his main personality trait like in the original.
i love the remake but god do i miss the ballistics scene and Ashley falling off the jet ski 🗿
same, I was expecting Ashley to fall off the jet ski in the remake too 🗿
🗿
My guy that's called a jet ski
Yeah, the fall one is so funny and unpredictabel for the ending... We don't expect that happen.
balleesteeks
We wouldn’t have the same love for Leon if remake Leon is what we got in 2004.
Well said. So much soul in the performance.
@@BigBossIvanI disagree. Leon shoots first, asks questions later in the remake. I prefer that Leon. OG Leon let's Salazar and Saddler ramble too much. The remake Leon is more bad hass and doesn't have the patience for their bull.
@samspade8830 New Leon was also way more boring, and less entertaining. Yes og was a lil Cheesy but so are the Japanese people cheesy humor is part of their culture, new Re4 was more realistic, but old Re4 was more entertaining.
@@syminite1 as Gaben said “I’ve never went to the grocery store and thought ‘oh this is fun.’ Realistic doesn’t mean fun.”
@@syminite1 Calling Leon "boring" is subjective. I like the realistic approach. Cheesy characters are for children, in my opinion. I want a realistic story. I want a grounded character, not a cheesy one. But if you like cheesy Leon, that's your right.
Also, calling Japanese people "cheesy" is subjective. Remember, it's the Japanese who developed RE4 Remake, so clearly they can write serious video game stories with serious video game characters.
Hunnigan: ”You've been radio silent for three hours!”
Leon: **destroys barrel in rage**
It actually fits since this Leon is more aggressive.
XD
Leon: The door's locked, I can't get in.
Also Leon: *kicks down door 3 times to break the lock*
OG Leon: kinda chill, snarky, THAT sense of humor.
Leon in remake: focused at the mission, traumatized, serious.
13:05 also sarcastic ada was great too.
BORING that's what he is in the remake
He's still pretty damn snarky in the remake
@@nikolaykim play the original then and stop whining
Leon's appearance in the remake version seemed sensationless
I still can't believe the:"No Thanks .... Bro!" Was a line that was actually recorded by a professional voice actor and put into a real commercially released product.
😂
I'm just mad they cut out the
"no way leon!"
"Way"
The original RE4 is literally James Bond or Indiana Jones but it's a Halloween episode so there's zombies and monsters involved. It's completely and utterly unique in its tone and atmosphere I really don't think it could ever be replicated. The remake is a good game for its own reasons but it definitely doesn't capture the "soul" of the original.
Wouldn't say it's unique in either of those reagards.
True
The original is trying to be a fun game, while the remake wants to be a serious hollywood movie.
@@pleaserespond3984 that's why I do like og leon
@@pleaserespond3984 and that's an end of any discussion about this. So tired that games now trying to make everything serious and dark, rather then stylish and fun, like the original mikami vision. Sad
9:06 in the Brazilian dubbing of the classic, Leon says "not even my grandma would fall for that"
💀
“May I remind you Leon, that you’re still on duty!”
“W O M E N”
What an absolute chad Original Leon
This is what makes him op
Man i am grateful grew up playing with OG Leon,young generation might be dont understand how cool OG Leon is.
Man, I used to look forward to remakes as a way to introduce the new generation to old classics. But now I know that remakes are made in modern times, and cannot leave alone, let alone recreate what made the old games great.
I'm probably older than you and...he is and he isn't. I mean, he's a badass to be sure, but his jokes land like the Hindenburg.
I don't know, I'm young, but old enough to have experienced the original RE4, and I still prefer remake Leon.
But that's also because I have a preference for characters with more realistic depth; I'm not really big on characters that are all one-liners and little else.
And this is coming from someone who enjoyed the original Leon.
@@ZehShugugn Both can be pretty realistic? One person doesn’t need to be all brooding because of PTSD, people have different ways to hide their trauma. OG Leon used jokes.
The new one is cool too but he is more human and that's what people don't want to swallow.
I love that "Cause boredom kills me" line is the name of the platinum trophy in RE Remake. Gold.
For OG Leon saving the president's daughter is just Tuesday
Og krauser sounds intimating while the new one sounds like his tooth got removed in some of the scenes
😅
I finally heard new Krauser for the first time...didn't like it lol.
Og Krauser call Leon, "Comrade!" Shown with both having similar knife.
Remake Krauser calling Leon ," RoOkIe!"
I’ll never forgive them for not adding “I knew you’ll be fine if you landed on your but”
I love his roasting moments
8:25 "Why don't you do us a favor a LEAVE before the audience gets pissed off?"
Subtitles: "Oh shit... I think he's talking to me!"