Plato's Porsche Taycan First Drive & Hot Lap | Fifth Gear
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ธ.ค. 2020
- In this brand new video, exclusive to TH-cam, Jason goes for a first drive and hot lap in Porsche's all electric Taycan.
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Jason's gonna have a lot of sleepless nights and end up just ordering this first gen 🤣
surprised they didn't throw all the batteries and motors in the boot out of sheer stubbornness lol
Officially my first -internet belly laugh - of 2021 😂 Let's just wait for the electric 911! I guarantee you it will be like that
Ueilaaaaaa! Found Fifth Gear YT channel after years and years... I didn’t have a clue, here in Italy 5thGear is not on the air anymore, and I’ve lost track. So glad to have you here. Best thing ever is that now I can binge all the previous videos! Happy days! 👍🏻
When did the lead singer of AC/DC start wearing glasses 🤭
This guy remind me of Jackie Stewart (f1)
He looks the part.
Edit:
I think its because of his hat
It's amazing that it takes an electric car to get the presenter/ driver to actually have to concentrate on a fast lap, no fancy power slides,sideways action. Just a bleeding fast car (and heavy) keeping Jason honest and on it.
The fact it's 4 seconds faster than the hot hatch darling of the moment just shows how quick this electric Porsche is.
Porsche cars, electric or ICE, always make the driver involved with driving.
If they made the synthetic engine noise like a tie fighter, that could be fun.
Why not having the liberty of a sound generator - meaning you can choose all kind of sounds....TIE fighter is a good one :)
It would be most annoying sound possible. In the movies its always fly across the screen sound so simulated Doppler effect. Now imagine it at constant note. OMG
How good to se mr Plato again...excellent review.
"to put it in perspective", here's the time of a hot hatch instead of another porsche.
Yeh or a model s!.
Lol
Yeah I didn't get that, what time did a 911 turbo go around in??? Not a 30k yaris
@@noelynoelnh Model S fell apart before the end of the lap.
@@planespeaking They Taycan Turbo S beat the Model S/Cheetah from a dig in the 1/4 mile on DragTimes and murders it on a track. But you'll get this from the Tesla fan-boys "Just wait until the new Tesla Roadster comes out or I'm sure they cheated". It's so funny that they are blindly devoted to a car company that looks like they've been assembled by grammar school children. I couldn't believe how bad the build quality was when I drove one.
@@noelynoelnh There aren't any lap times for Tesla Model S at either Castle Combe or at Lemans Bugatti circuit (where a Taycan turbo S has set a very fast 1:50:35). I guess nobody has bothered to use it like a real sports car, come to think of it I've never seen one at a track day here either.
I think the Taycan will slaughter the current Model S by quite a wide margin, but for comparison, at Castle Combe, the 1:13:58 is a few tenths slower than a 991.1 Porsche GT3, it's faster than an R35 GTR, depending on the model. So it's really, really quick.
Do you really think that a company which has been winning races for decades isn't going to make a world-beating EV? I think you guys need to learn your history a little more, and also realize that the Model S isn't a track car by any stretch.
The sound of those tyres when Jason pulls out of the pits :D
I swear I didn’t recognize this guy at first until they did the edits and showed his face from back when I watched 5th gear
Mass Effect music in the background lol
Hello Jason Stewart, this time jumping into the electric world
Brilliant video 👌 would love to see what you think of the new i4 👍
2 1/2 tons, must be immense shredding force on those tyres holding this time machine on the road. But wow, what a car.
Are you back driving BTCC this year Jason? We missed not having you there last year...
Only 100 miles flat out around a track sounds plenty to me
Given electric cars previously have struggled to do 2 laps of the ring at full chat (around 28 miles) I doubt this could do 100 miles on any circuit. I think plato meant how he would drive on the roads...
The TST review on public roads used 40% over just 17 miles (in about 13 minutes). The car even turned off its own air-con. That's cack.
th-cam.com/video/WONuaO9KzxQ/w-d-xo.html
Why not compare the cars lap time with an equivalent priced 911. Comparing it to a Yaris at a fraction of the price is meaningless.
Apparently there aren't any recent lap times there, except for an earlier turbo. It'll be interesting to see times at Angelsey.
fastestlaps.com/tracks/castle-combe
Nice watch Plato!
Does anyone know if ”Fifth Gear” is back on TV in the USA ?
Jason has gone peaky blinders
It's the Peaky fookin Blinders mate.
This guy should be a major YT star. Maybe he likes being low key? Top car journalist IMHO.
Tiff is much more modest than Plato (and drove in F1 instead "just" BTCC). Gotta mentionin Harry Metcalfe - he's the daddy and for me he's actually a David Attenborough of cars&bikes...
when did old vice face start dressing like a market trader
Plato trying to be the Peaky Blinders grandad. 😂
Does anyone know who manufactures those tire walls for race circuits? I can't find who makes those.
OK then, given that it's apparently Castle Combe circuit, then 1:13:58 is incredibly fast... wow!
That's almost identical to a 991 GT3 (475hp)... gulp.
No wonder I feel like my Taycan 4S is nearly as quick as my GT3 on the road.... it is!
My takeaway : The Yaris GR is incredible if it’s within 4 seconds of the Taycan. Get the Yaris and buy yourself something nice with the change
What I was really hoping for was how the driving experience compared to more conventional fair, will it still be fun once the novelty factor has worn off?
castle combe track ? my nearest :)
So it's like a 4-seater 911 Turbo S, plus 700 kg but about the same in a straight line unless you have more than 1/4 mi to go flat out?
Basically what you said
Have you ever driven en electric car? It drives and feels way different than a petrol car. Not very comparable.
How many people will take this on a track tho? Maybe a few at the north ring but most will be driven my mums taking their kids to school and the supermarket. As that's all I see Panamera's turbos S's doing in my area.
Can you do a shootout between a 2.5 flat 4 turbo Cayman GTS and a 4.0 flat 6 NA Cayman GTS...?
Turbo will be faster, but no one's going to want it still once they hear the 6pot.
@@timburton1080 depends on the track possibly. I've got a 2.5 GTS and had the choice of both, and took the 2.5 over the 4.0 - the low down torque is just so useable and makes everyday driving effortless. The 4.0 still has plenty of low down grunt but not as much as the 2.5..... Doesn't get to the same level until over 5000 rpm.....
@@paulbarrett5121 I'm sure it's an excellent car still, and if you're using as a daily driver torque is useful, reason I preferred the E90 335i over the M3. I'm not a turbo engine fan across the board, fine in a humdrum 4pot like my Golf R has as its not a engine you really want to listen to. In a Porsche sports car though, 6+ cylinders and ideally as many revs as possible.
I drove the Taycan turbo. Stupid acceleration....it does boggle the mind.
Don’t know what I love more the cornering on the Taycan or the track that plays at 2:53 🔥
Track name please?
Castle Combe...
@@simonl8819 Thanks bro🙏🏾
Would ye do a alpine review.. itching to pull the trigger on a 2nd hand one. Massive investment so need convincing
So test drive one instead of working off what someone else thinks.
Can you drift it round corners ?
1:57 hits a rumble strip and for a moment sounds like a flat 6
thought it was Brian Johnson in the thumbnail
Anyone else notice the Red interior the black then back to red? :)
Hey gents, I did some digging but haven't found out which circuit they use. However, I did find some comparative lap times at the Lemans Bugatti Circuit. (SportAuto)
1:50:35 for the Taycan Turbo S,
about 2s slower than a 991.2 Turbo S (1:48:63); it's 3s slower than a 991 GT3 RS, which is a world-leading track car.
So by any fair measure it's bloody quick.
I just got a Taycan earlier in December, and while it's obviously not a track day car, it's extremely capable on the road and for such a luxurious and big car, it feels very close to a 911. When you're driving windy roads, it's supremely confident and the way it puts power down is like nothing else I've driven. I'll be making some videos on it soon!
It was Castle Combe Circuit
@@AlexLevitschi thank you!!
I wanted the 911 turbo s lap time
Me too!
If you run the Taycan you get the laptime of the Taycan. I didn't see a 911 turbo s anywhere in the video. And i doubt there is a laptime of a turbo s on this track.
@@knowntobehonest watch the start again
If that's Castle Comb (saw "Avon" on the sign post... but otherwise have no idea) - fastest laps;
911 GT3 - 1:11.9
911 Turbo - 1:14.9
@@easycompany979 Taycan is better!
It would have been nice to know what a 911 turbo s would have done round this track rather then a Yaris.
Is it limited to 161 mph? Or has it run out of puff? seems odd with the power figures? I know torque lessens with revs in an electric motor, or is it simply gearing?
It has only two gears so I suspect this is the culprit.
@@zbyszanna That seems reasonable.
Be interested to see what a 911 turbo s would do around that track.. Hmm!
How far does a 911 Turbo S or the fastest Panamera go on a full tank, under the same driving? Is it actually significantly more?
The Rimac C_Two which will be way more powerful will actually go much further on a battery than its only equivalent, the Bugatti Chiron, on its full tank.
Ok I get it, but then you fill up your Chiron or 911TurboS in 5 minutes in every corner of the world, and you’re good to go. Obviously the concern is not just about the range...
Balls out in a Panamera Turbo S? About 160 miles, and about 140 w/ the 911 Turbo S. And also, how long does it take to get a full "tank" with the Taycan an hour? I can fill-up a Turbo S with petrol in under 4 minutes.
@@Just_Pele Taycan tops up in about 20 minutes on a 300kW charger, and of course you leave home with a full 'tank'. Only real issue is the state of the public charging network.
What track was this filmed at, please?
Castle Combe
@@michaelgreen8724 thank you :)
Nice watch! Probably best EV out there at max cost but also very heavy. Looking forward to advancements in battery technology & ideally more composite materials used. Great point and squirt but round the bendies, too much weight.
It's not a track car though, so the fact it gets around so well is a bonus. I just got mine less than a month ago, having owned a 911 Turbo, Panamera, and GT3. The Taycan is wonderful to drive on public roads (ie. in the twisty bits or on the freeway) where you're not driving at race track speeds.
Most of us use our cars that way, right?
@@ferengoid Yep true, I don't disagree with that, great road car. Enjoy yours!
Cool. but where's Tiff?
4 seconds quicker than the hottest of hot hatches that is a full ton lighter. On a very short lap.
There's a long straight though. Most of that 4 secs is probably made under acceleration. Impressive tho. Yaris only 30-34k too and has a better range - ha. The Yaris probably more fun around the track, lighter and more nimble. Still early days yet for EV's. First attempt from Porsche.
and there are much hotter hot hatches, such as the a45s
the Porsche is a full 4sec faster than a Toyota Yaris, yup...
@@tomhuish7617 agreed, apparently that car can be abit of a dog around the circuit.
A 700hp GR would spank it, and you can just fill it up and go home again afterwards.
Will Porsche be taking it to the WRC to compete with the Yaris there? 😂
Lets make a hot hatch vs entry level luxury shoot out ...
With Plato you at least know your'e getting an honest opinion, and had to admit...he likes it and likes it alot, its the future though and we've just got to accept it. At the moment though one might just get a track day out of it, but then your foooked for the journey home.
Is 100 miles not enough for 2nd or 3rd car ?
Realistically that's likely to be more like 150-250 if driving it away from a track.
@@nickporter4279 I’m not sure tracking a EV without a way to charge at the track is every going to be a good idea lol. I know the ring has chargers now. Not sure if other tracks are starting to follow suit
I thought it was just another range excuse. Let him use is for a month. In practice there is little opportunity for rediculous driving.
100 miles of flat out track driving is more than enough. My previous BMW m3 would only manage that out of a tank driving hard on track.
That could be refilled in 120 seconds though. Not 90 minutes. Before any tree-huggers talk about fast charging, that cuts off about 80% & the final bit to full takes eons.
@@fletch9702 lol says the guy who’s never driven on a track ... because clearly anyone who’s done 100 miles of driving on a racetrack at top speed would tell you that the line from “fun” to “work” was crossed a long time ago. You should have also pointed out that electric cars have almost no maintenance requirements compared to fuel cars, their service intervals are measured in years, all of which extends the usable life of a vehicle. The Taycan also comes with free charging for 3 years. Find me a car that comes with free gas for 3 years then we’ll talk.
@@bluerootz OK I'll race you from the north of Scotland to the south of France. You take the Taycan & I'll beat you in a basic Ford Focus.
@@fletch9702 that’s not a race because you’ve handicapped it based on the criteria you expect will give you an advantage. That’s like saying I’ll race you in my hotrod funny car on the drag strip, nah nah...
@@bluerootz it's a ROAD race. Let's not forget, this is a ROAD car.
GR Yaris doesn't cost £140k though does it for what? About 4 seconds faster?
Battery power lasts a few minutes near top speed. A rubber band is the same solution.
Totally agree about seeing what "Gen 2" electric vehicles hold in store. I have yet to hear of an electric vehicle that reaches it's manufacturer's distance range when driven by Joe Average on a daily basis. As far as I'm concerned they're all still town-runabouts - kids to school, shopping trips, go and buy a litre of milk, etc....and this [gorgeous] Porsche is a VERy expensive runabout.
The Taycan 4S has consistently outperformed the manufacturer's range. Check out Matt Farah's video on it. There are others.
And in N.A. people have been using Teslas for long trips for years. You may be interested to know that the Taycan uses a new 800 volt charging system which is very fast, as well.
You must not be paying attention, because just about every reviewer has stated that the Taycan exceeds the manufacturer’s and EPA’s estimate. Also, I find that people who talk about needing more range actually rarely go on long trips. It’s mostly in your mind.
When will an EV manufacturer use the sound of a supercharger whine as their synthetic noise?! Would love to see a Rimac vs a Bugatti Chiron shoot out!
It's too bad Tiff is not on the show but I bet the both of you would find ways to drift that Taycan and liquify the battery in a couple of hours.
That's the real issue for "drivers". The range is massacred when keeping up with normal traffic or pushing on. Wifes model S 85+ real range 120, Nissan e-NV200 van 40 ish miles. I really want to be "eco" but they are just no good for me...
I've never been a fan of electric cars either, but it's because there is no way to go on an extended drive. In spite of what every fanboi says, taking half an hour or more every 200-300 miles to charge is just not an option when you're used to doing it every 500 miles and then taking 2 minutes. I am not disputing that they are - or can be - fast, and clean and all that. Just that you are nowhere near as independent in them as you are in a diesel or petrol. Try taking some extra electricity with you in a jerry can.
So they're fine for around town and for daily commutes. Not for people who regularly do long drives.
We are a way off quick recharging times, and lots of places to do that from.
When these electric cars can be charged within say 10mins to full range and that range is 300 miles plus then we are on to something. Its going to be a while before electric cars have the convenience factor.
The government want 2030, that sounds an ambitious timescale to have a slick product and infrastructure in place.
Electric car and petrol car owner here.
Yes it's less convenient on long drives because you can't stop where you want to stop, you stop where the car needs to stop to charge. However to play devil's advocate, if you're ok with that and can make the most of it for example if you're on a road trip I assume you're with your family and kids. The kids need to eat and take a piss every 200-300km generally speaking before they get restless. If the charging stop happens while they are doing that, then the time is used well and simultaneously the car is getting charged.
Cars taking 30 mins or more to get to 80% battery is what I'd call Gen 1 of electric cars.
Gen 2 which currently only the Taycan and Model 3 Tesla are, are the cars that take 20-30 mins to get to 80%. Gen 3 will be when they take 15-20 mins to get to 80% etc.
If you time your average fuel stop when out on a road trip, I guarentee with immense confidence that it takes you roughly 10-15 mins and not a couple of minutes like you think it does. It's nostalgia speaking there. People want to get out of the car, stretch, get food, go to the toilet. Yeh sure you filled your car in 2 mins but the process of paying and the family doing what they are doing takes up another 10-12 mins.
If my prediction is correct and Gen 3 of electric cars that charge in 15 mins occurs then the time won't be too much different.
Note: tesla and Lucid are claiming 400 miles range already. I think lucids top of the range is claiming like 517miles. It won't be out the realm of possibility that coinciding with gen 3 electric cars the range will be up towards the 600-700mile range especially with solid state battery tech.
Watch this space. You might be surprised how quickly it's evolving. For me personally I did a 1000 mile journey stopping every 150miles or so and it actually made it more relaxing than just hammering on for 500 miles then stopping.
Recommendations are that we stop for break every 2 hours. That’s usually 100 or so miles, so half hour stop for toilet, lunch and coffee easily tops up the battery and you’d have to stop for that anyway. Most long journeys in the UK are not 500 miles, more like 200:250. Today’s electric cars like Tesla model 3, Kia e nero more than capable of covering those miles with a brief stop for lunch
Yup. It's a deal breaker for me. I would be willing to put up with a 10 minute wait for charging, after that , after that, it's a chore and annoying. I did have to laugh when you mentioned the jerry cans! I just rented a Ford F250 and Uhaul trailer to transport a BMWz4 from NY to Massachusetts. I filled the Trucks tanks and took 25 gallons of gas in 5 tanks with me. When I got to NY, I filled the trucks tank and it took me 15 minutes to gas up + another 15 minutes to load the car on the trailer. 500 miles round trip in 8 hours. Even with nothing in tow, try making that 500 miles in 8 hours in an electric car.....not gonna happen.
@@xr500t Exactly.
It's beautiful, fast as hell, a technological marvel, but no thanks.
I'd rather buy a house and an Ariel Atom or similar.
It's why I still haven't gotten rid of my Fiesta ST, even though I only paid 22k USD for it 4 years ago, paid it off and its still worth 12k.
It seems silly to hold on to it when I can get half of its value back, but it's just so much damn fun.
It's not fast but I guarantee you I'm having more fun.
Good honest review...Nice Panerai watch.....not a fan of the Taycan!
My only gold watch is plated only. And it's quartz, although its seconds hand has ultra smooth sweep being a Bulova.
My prediction that the first affordable performance EV will come from the Volkswagen group.
Also EV will spell the end of front drive once it's realised that there is no longer any packaging advantage to mounting motors in the front.
Just an old man with a hat and glasses
You need an old top gear style leaderboard for these hot laps. Yaris GR comparison is pointless.
Bring back Tiff ya muppets!
Saludos cordiales desde Chile amigos!!!
I was there. The Porsche broke down twice and had to be rebooted to get it running again. It also turned up on a transporter and had techs crawling all over it, all day, and was constantly plugged back into the mains. I reckon it would last 10 laps on a trackday and then you are off home so long as you have a trailer to carry it on 🤣
We'll see. I'm going to take mine to the track soon enough, but they have a charger there so we should be able to get juice for the home journey. I'll report on my channel.
Tiff
Comparing its lap time to a 1.6 hit hatch
1.6 is more than the Taycan has.
@@knowntobehonest the taycan is a £100k GT the Yaris is a third of the price it’s like comparing mince to filet steak, absolutely pointless
Sorry but put it in perspective - the GR Yaris? Yes the GR Yaris is a quick Rally Inspired Hot Hatch BUT COME ON - Put this against a Panemera Turbo S Or 992 Turbo / Turbo S
The first half of the video was all blah blah blah... Then he starts spanking it around the track, doesn't say much and I've learned everything I need to know about the car haha good stuff!
I am going to send my back, why doesn’t my interior change from Black leather interior to Red leather interior intermittently like Jason’s does in this clip, the outside track shots are a red interior the inside shots are black leather… is it a button I haven’t found yet? …loool #watchclosely
Synthetic engine noises are the aural equivalent of impossible "meat". Tonal tofu.
Ya but yaris had 500 less horse power.
Plato's final point: Electric sports motoring: the best thing since sliced bread. If you're happy with having one slice of delicious toast and nothing else every 12 to 18 hours. I agree!
Lol you sound like every old guy shouting at the clouds these days.
JOHN DEERE 410 8RX
Why would you buy the volvo polo star over this?
I prefer my Miele.
Still salty of 5th gear leaving Tiff behind..
Jason potato. ;)
Comparing it to a hothatch kinda made the lap time irrelevant
Poor Johnny Smith is having to sell his S600
The only thing I hear is tire squeal
If it don’t go round the track, it ain’t a Porsche, I’m sorry I’m calling bullshit. Yes it’s a middle-class PR statement that I would have on my drive as a toy, but that thing does not belong on any track, I think shmee nailed it why this car just doesn’t really work right now
When batteries become energy dense enough that an EV is as light as a fossil car they will be even more awesome. Can't wait.
That's the wrong way of pronouncing Taycan
How do you say it then? Isn't it tAycan?
Exactly
Wait isnt it pronounced the Tai Khan
@@dawg7339 Haha, I don't know write down correct pronunciation, but now you could be right
Why didn’t you put it up against a car of the same value $$ to see which one goes around that track faster !
You shouldn't review this car because it has only two gears.
I see what you did there...
Beat that in a panda 4x4
Towing a caravan !
Sod it, I lasted 1.23, not interested 🤔
I really thought after the lap, Jason was going to compare the Taycan to another Porsche, the Panamera Turbo S Hybrid.
Or at least compare it to another fast sedan (e.g. BMW M5 Comp, AMG E63S, Tesla Model S). But no. Instead, he compares it to a small hatchback! It makes no sense. It's meaningless.
Tiff is a better driver and presenter. Big mistake dumping him.
Are you sure they dumped him?
Was humped and dumped or pumped and dumped?
Not really. Plato has way more racing experience, has won a heap of races and championships. Tiff's a great presenter but don't sleep on how accomplished Plato is.
now that electric cars drive like normal cars they're more likely to be bought and driven.....I've been driving the BMWi3 here in Jersey and i tell you i don't think i've been in a quicker accelerating car....up to probably 70mph it's just insane!! The fake engine noises will die out soon,.....have it turned on and you might as well be towing a big balloon with the word BELLEND spray painted on it
Electronic controlled air ducts for brake cooling? Makes one wonder if the electric Porsche will be reliable. Leave it to the Germans to take something simple and convert it to complex.
That's how I feel about most German engineering, finding a solution to a problem that didn't really exist in the first place.
Goddamnit at least try to pronounce the car correctly you are reviewing. Other than that...great video.
Porsche should have kept the traditional head light theme
Nope-
Better reinforce your driveway...
2.5 tons... and the hat. Let's wait for significant weight loss in the first place. Hat in the second.
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