angela1984a of course, he obviously knows his stuff. Most people haven’t got a clue how un eco friendly EV cars are and buy into the crap you get fed at the end. They forget that to get make the thing and the life cycle management is by far more damaging. We are getting mugged off and most don’t realise it. Chris does, do your research before you slag him off,
Tesla rule the e-car roost... At the moment. As soon as the big German manufacturers get into their stride Tesla will have to up their game! Which is good because this means better electric cars for us customers. On a final note, Tesla need to sort out their styling, interior design and build quality although the build quality is improving slightly over time.
Randomuserisrandom Ding I think he meant not enough people know about EV cars producing emissions in other ways, and they were trying to focus on the car and way it drives I guess. Or they’re saying they don’t want top gear to become too highbrow I’m not sure.
@@Joolz1982 emissions from production? The factory that makes this Porsche runs on renewable energy. The UK electricity grid is MAJORITY carbon free now and the percentage of the grid run from burning fossil fuel drops by 5% every year. Do you know how much coal we burn to make electricity now? Just over 2% of the grid. Less than 1% by the end of the year. We haven't built a new fossil fuel burning power station in this country for almost a decade. Solar produces more power in the UK now than coal does. Solar. In Britain. There is a lot of nonsense FUD about the cleanliness of EVs. There is no doubt at all that they are cleaner than the cars they replace. None.
Salvatore Caruso i sell teslas for a living and even the most car people love our cars. I sold a performance model 3 yesterday to someone who had a 17 carrera 4s so to me this isnt quite true. i get what hes saying because we put safety and technology as priorities, but to say they are for people who dont like cars is a bit of a weird generalization.
I don't know if I fully agree with that. I have two friends that are big drag fanatics that had 9 and 10 second daily driven cars that have gone p100d since last year. Weird? Yes.
@@fardinhooo It is because Teslas are not cars, but Ipads on wheels. So why would someone who just had one Carrera 4 S not buy an Ipad. He is not gonna "drive" with it though.
This is why I love these smaller interviews with Chris; always honest, always spot on and always looking at the bigger picture. My compliments and please more!
I mean the expectations of tires is grossly underestimated..transitional loads such as turning under braking causes so much stress.i think power management will be what gains the most over the next 10years.. awd systems will evolve ..they have too
@@damianbritton1472 different tyre models from each manufacturer will all use different rubber compounds, hard, medium, soft, you just get the tyre you require
As soon as Chris said "Where's all the lithium coming from. Where are the heavy metals..." that was it for me. Finally a car journalist is not getting caught up in the "electric car hype" and is starting to talk some sense. Respect to Chris Harris.
Also Lithium, cobalt and nickel are in very limited supply. So they will run out, just like oil. All we are doing is using a different limited resource. What we should be doing is developing and improving hydrogen fuel cell technology. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the known universe.
Lithium is a relatively abundant material, if the whole worlds population, man, woman and children each had an EV tomorrow there would still be enough to go round. Other rare earth materials such as Cobalt are being designed out down from 25% to 3% by anode weight so 0.1 to 0.001% of battery total. No material is limitless but EV batteries are 95% recyclable so will give 1000s of years of use. Compared to mine, burn emit CO2 of fossil fuels which is not sustainable there will have to be another answer within 50 years and the longer we leave it the more potential damage we do to the climate (not an experiment worth risking), the clock is ticking.
Jamie G The majority of cobalt is now used to refine crude oil, to decrease sulfur levels So while we are now essentially burning our supply of cobalt, we could also use it in batteries and maybe even recycle the material. However, I absolutely agree that cobalt mining is filthy business.
It starts out for the rich, eventually you reach economies of scale and the price drops significantly and the masses can get it. Same thing as the smartphone, the PC, and even combustion engine cars when they first came out.
I got a Nissan Leaf with 226 miles of range for 28k USD. Plenty of range for my daily use and not that expensive. Not all electric cars cost an arm and a leg
@@sbatra86 I see that with Tesla. It wasn't necessarily for the rich but you needed an affluent income level. I see quite a few of them around SF Bay Area these days. Not so exclusive of a car as it was a few years back.
My Zoe costs less to own and run per month than the direct equivalent Clio by £60. No word of a lie. If I lived in London I'd be over £100 in profit a month. Every month. Company car? Take 40% off the upfront cost of any electric as of this year. Chris is wrong about this. I know a dozen EV owners in my area. Not one of them is wealthy (okay, one: he has a Model 3). I sure as hell am not and I'm driving an EV that will get me most of the way down the country with a single top up charge of 40 minutes. This narrative is old and out of date, just like much of the information in this segment.
To clarify I'm addressing the information about the manufacturing carbon footprint to mass produce EV vehicles. The daily operational footprint is smaller, but the manufacturing side is larger. At least for now, until other or more clean power source(s) are discovered and utilized. I want to know how many miles/kilometers the vehicles need to travel, before they have nullified the manufacturing carbon footprint, by having zero daily operational footprint. Will it take 1yr, 5yr, 10yr?
@@LoneWolf-wp9dn actually yes, I do love the aroma of gasoline, engine oil, and leather. This mostly speaking about my years of riding a motorcycle. But now days it's the sound of operation, that I can feel, when driving a ICE car. If EV cars 'sound and feel' like a combustion engine, I'll be more motivated to purchase one. This is like the 'ring tone' on phones, when we moved away from telephones that actually had Bells in them.
I finally saw the Taycan in person this weekend, the dealer had a Turbo model on the showroom. These are beautiful cars that handle amazingly well despite coming with All-Season tires. The rear seat is big enough for two 6 foot adults. I think when the Taycan 4S arrives they won't be able to make enough to fill demand. I mean the Panamera is slightly larger, but essentially the same price and burns a ton of gas while being much slower and worse handling. I think the Taycan is going to steal a ton of Panamera sales as well as bring new people to Porsche.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r well the factory only has so much capacity and they are said to already be producing them as fast as they can. The new factory can produce around 40,000 units a year, which is about the same as the 911.
refilling is easier with gas, but porsche is also a sportscar that you can drive every day. If 90% of the time you drive to work you just charge at home. Even with the time you spend on long trips on chargers, which is with the porsch a lot less then most electric cars, is for 99% of the people overall less then filling up gas every now and then.
I went to see one 3 months ago, and never have I seen anyone be so sure when they make a statement. He said that he thought it would take up 30% of total sales. If so, I just hope that Porsche will stay a niche manufacturer and not go mainstream and be ruined by the globalization, as such is happening to Benz, Audi and BMW.
Jaimie Duthoy there is also palladium in ICE cars in catalyst filters. and I never heard of recycling those... You’re right the oil industry uses far more cobalt than the battery industry to remove the sulfur from oil and in catalyst filter when in fact the battery industry is going from 4% cobalt to 0% in their batteries. People must know: www.cobaltinstitute.org/desulphurisation.html
Does the other guy ever stick with his own opinion? Whenever Chris has a different angle he just changes his mind. Chris is always correct of course, but that's beside the point.
"The other guy" is the deputy editor of Top Gear magazine, and he is conducting the interview - so asking for opinions, not telling them. These are not mad TH-cam commenters not budging from their opinion. ;-)
The other guy is a moron that got to this point through sheer luck. He hasn’t got a clue about cars and it comes through in everything he says and the way he conducts himself. It’s a shame to see Harris have to put up with this idiot, the frustration is constantly visible on his face
"Where does the lithium come from?" - A valid question, but there's rarely any analysis of "Where does the petrol come from?". It's not just take it out of the ground and chuck it in your 911, the amount of CO2 emissions tied up in refinement are huge. Because the data is "commercially sensitive" it's rarely available for the public either so really difficult to do a proper analysis on it. Plus, the batteries can be recycled into charging stations - petrol once it's burned...cannot be used again. Range is definitely getting better every year but from most EV owners I've spoken to they've barely noticed the range, as most daily drives are under 200 miles before a break anyway. Of course different from car enthusiasts like Chris et al, but I imagine 90% of UK drivers are exactly those that "pootle around town". Still, the fact you likely need a off-street charger and £30k+ definitely makes them expensive toys at the minute. But the Taycan looks like it's doing well at being the toy everyone wants...
Chris hits the nail on the head again: his comments about sourcing lithium and that Tesla drivers are not interested in cars is bang on. Chris you are a credit to journalism and not all the hyped up bollocks from non-car journalists who are more interested in a skinny latte's than smoking tyes and brakes.
@n s What a load of old tosh. You only have to look at the problems big cities have with pollution during peak traffic or look up the stats re the number of city dwellers with respiratory problems, children with asthma etc to realise this can't go on. Now with almost 8 Billion people who increasingly want their own transport something has to be done.
A few gripes with this video. -There are car people who like Teslas (I consider myself one) I like what electric cars that are done right bring to the table and to watch the evolution of the automobile in real time is exhilarating. -Electricity is getting cleaner and cleaner by the day as we push to use more solar, wind, hydro and nuclear, that estimate is subject to change and even if it remained true the impact is still less than any ICE. -Lithium mining is performed in South American deserts where barely any life is at all, extracting it from the sand is barely a detriment.
Every time I cross a roundabout in my Leaf I almost smash into a car in front who thought they could pull out in front.... nah mate, you won't make it. People need to understand electric cars speed off the line.
Criticising Tesla cornering is like critiquing the gait of a dog walking on two legs. It's an American car. It's amazing it does it at all. As Chris says, Tesla changed the game. Without the model S, the Taycan doesn't exist.
Model S is NOT a sport car, it's massive in comparison, think more Merc E class. Currently, I would argue the Model 3 is closer in size and spec, although it's still not a sports car, it's a 4 door family saloon, mind you, the 3 is much lighter, can go much further and it's massively cheaper! the killer for this will be the Roadster 2, that will be a sports car - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(2020)
Taycan is the result of EU rulemaking in the past decennium first and foremost. The Model S provided a benchmark but the decision to start building electric cars goes back to before Tesla was a big thing.
"Without the model S, the Taycan doesn't exist." You say that. And yet, the Model S released in 2012, the Mission E was a driveable concept in 2015. Porsche had hybrids and electric Cayman/Boxster concepts by 2011. The whole industry was moving this way by that point. Tesla accelerated the change, it didn't invent the game.
People go on about the cobalt use in batteries but they don't know that cobalt has been used to remove sulphur from fuel all this time. Over 500 cycles in a battery but one off for a tank of petrol. www.cobaltinstitute.org/desulphurisation.html
@@yarkmates3409 Porsche have previewed the estate version of the Taycan. It is an all road crossover version. Porsche said there is a crossover version coming. Not sure if it will be 100% like the concept or more crossover and less estate.
Good news for you. A Porsche Taycan Estate has been spied doing a few tests around the Nurburgring so if we're lucky, we'll see it by the end of this year.
Yes true. Not the biggest supporter of EV’s and frankly the Tesla model 3 performance is a pretty nice car too. But the fanboys make it so so hard to like. For true petrol heads, the Taycan is a ray of hope that signifies that there will be companies that pay attention to driving dynamics and the ‘joy of driving’ as EV’s grow. It’s a sad thing to watch the death of the ICE but that’s some relief.
This is where you see these guys' differences, Chris Harris is open to discuss the realities of the world without any fear of getting canceled, while the other guy is the bare opposite and is scared sh*tless of being canceled. Chris is as genuine as a man can and should be. Great guy. This is why people love him.
Valid point being made by Chris re. the true carbon footprint of an electric car. It certainly has been politicised. However, there still are some important benefits. Firstly, if you're a city dweller, especially the dense ones in major cities, removing exhaust gases from traffic will be hugely beneficial. Second, the power to charge the cars can and should come more and more from renewable sources. And third, mining for lithium isn't pretty but it probably couldn't hurt to support countries' economies that aren't in, say, the Middle East. I believe the largest known reserves are in Bolivia. So, emphatically no, owning a Taycan doesn't save the ice caps, but it's part of some important trends that, when adopted en masse, can have some important, positive effects.
Chris Harris is a true automotive journalist. I remember when he used to write and review for Autocar back in the day. He had a full head of hair and triangular sideburns
@@unicorntomboy9736 It kinda does. It's just bland car with a bland interior. It's just boring. A fucking Honda Accord looks more interesting than a Model S or 3. A fucking Honda.
I could hear Chris Harris talk about cars for 3 days straight without getting bored.. he Just has a way to deliver his opinion that is near impossible to match in the car community (Clarkson is another one) and just straight honesty no Bullshitting around.
Model 3 Performance is quicker around the topgear track than a BMW M3 and 0.1 seconds slower than a Giulia Quadrofoglio on 70(!) threadwear tires. But it does not handle. Sure. From motortrend; «Mr. Consistency just laid down a 1:22.78. That's 1.12 seconds quicker than the Tesla. Then somebody notices the Alfa's Pirelli P Zero Corsa AR Asimmetrico front tires. They're asimmetrico, all right: Half of each tread block's rubber is gone after two sets of three hard laps. The Tesla engineer points to his car's Michelin Pilot Sport 4Ss that are at worst scuffed. "We could do that time if we were willing to destroy our tires," he says.» They later returned with Michelin Cup 2 tires and was 3 seconds faster than the Alfa.
Porsche knows performance is what sells EV technology. The Taycan becomes an aspirational model now for people who want the best. Porsche can now create a Macan EV for the mainstream with much less scrutiny.
Can somebody tell Chris Harris to behave. I love him when he's talking about fast cars. But that doesn't mean that reflects the majority of the car industry. The average amount of miles for a UK driver is 10000-12000miles. 1st of all. So a car that needs to be driven 15000 miles to work out as carbon neutral means it would reach that in just over a year. Considering the average lifespan of cars in the UK is about 15yrs, complaining about 1 or 2yrs is nonsense. Plus, 1/3rd of energy in the UK is provided by renewable sources. Also, the batteries can be quite easily and successfully be removed, charged locally via renewables like solar and used to power other things like street lights after using them in the cars is no longer viable(in over a decade), therefore reducing the need for power from the grid to. He has been against EVs from the start. Most people ARE just commuting in their cars, mate. Driving to and from work, shops etc. Very few people get out to test the edge of their cars limits and handling or go for pleasure drives. The upper speed limit on roads is 70mph. Many places in cities are bringing in 20mph zones. Him feeling sad about sports cars becoming electric says more about him being stuck in the past than it does about the car industry dragging it's heels. He's out of sync. The majority of cars are for normal driving, with a tiny bit of hoonery. Not the other way around. And this is from a biker who doesn't pay any mind to speed limits. We're a small section of the population. And let's not forget, a Tesla model 3 performance just toasted some of his favourite fast cars around the track. He should remember. He was driving.
@@rallycrosscraig yeah agreed, it's the same for us lot who ride bikes too. Very few actually put much miles on them(but, someone who buys a Taycan or Panamera would normally put more on it) . Such a waste. But, that is kinda what I'm saying. It makes their point of view even less valid,if you get where I'm coming from? Plus, the actual car is still going to cover more than those 15k-25k miles. Someone down the road is going to buy the car for cheap with 75k miles on the clock and it'll still be on the road in 15yrs. So the benefits are still there.
Chris is referring to the more expensive cars. Generally cars in the price range of a Porsche don't accumulate much mileage per year. It is often times the toy weekend car for trips. It's not common to see a Porsche or some other exotic car out in commute traffic.
@@Rhaspun yeah, true for a pure sports car like a boxster or 911,maybe. They're more weekend toys. But, these fast tourers are a bit different. I reckon the average mileage for a Panamera is probably much higher than that of a Boxster. There aren't any EV sports cars, so his point is neither here nor there.
Being faster doesn't mean more fun. And that's his entire point from the perspective of an enthusiast fun doesn't always equal acceleration and lap times. And few laps around one track doesn't prove anything. I've yet to see Tesla be relevant in the nurburgring which is where most manufacturers prove and test their cars for a reason. He's not out of sync just because he doesn't share your view's. Im tired of people calling out other's for being "stuck the past" when they have a difference of opinion....just because he isn't sheep and follow's the majority of people doesn't make him wrong . He has every reason and right to feel sad about it, he grew up with ICE car's and there is passion and feeling to them that electric's will never possess.
Chris hit the nail on the head. Teslas supercharger network is that good it contributes so much to the car, entirely true you can road trip in a Tesla. On the public road ill stick with my Tesla and keep the £50k in the bank compared to Tie can but I appreciate what Chris is saying about handling, then again my last car was a Chrysler 300c so 2 ton and just as big as the Model S I thought that was fun to chuck around, I like a challenge! Competition will be good for Tesla......plaid Model S please Mr Musk
Already a dozen drag races where Taycan easily has beaten Model S Raven. Multiple track tests where Taycan annihilates any Tesla with several seconds per lap. On Nurburgring, Taycan is more than a minute faster than any Tesla. Multiple publications and reports that praise Taycan's handling, endurance, build quality, range, repeatable performance, fit and finish, range.. Almost any journalist that is not a Tesla fanboy says that Taycan is superior... And yet, under every Taycan video, Tesla fanboys pollute the thread with their ignorance...
So what? It is twice as expensive, has worse charging infrastructure, no OTAs, no self driving capabilities and is like 8 years newer. At the end of the day, definitely great car but not that impressive. $180K? Please :D
@@Robert-cu9bm The EPA range is a scientific test not some anecdotal evidence found on TH-cam, the reason in some scenarios the range figures are close is because the Taycan is optimized for high speed highway driving, however it does poorly efficiency wise in city/rural driving.
Expat In UK Biker check out the stuff he did on Smokin Tire podcast and he has a podcast called collecting cars but does not update that often it seems.
1:28 When an ICE has too much power, Chris Harris:"That's what you need". When an EV has too much power, Chris Harris:"You don't need that much power" *roll eyes *
Ok I agree with a lot that Chris is saying but people who don’t like cars get something cheap or quiet like a Prius, Tesla’s are cars for people who want a fun electric car that is cheaper then a Porsche or The higher end Tesla’s.
Nope. Most people praising Tesla, are shitting and bashing the ICE (and its car industry) in the same sentence. They completely ignore the huge achievements of ICE.
A really excellent Q&A session, bringing up some great points. It would be good to hear more about the points raised by Chris in the segment starting at 5:20.
Timothy Vaschu every company will make an electric car but I think Ford will sell more gas or diesel powered vehicles in the US for a while. It will be hard to make a F550 electric
@@MattLitkeRacing They are doing it with the F150, but I happen to agree with you. Ford is doing to be a bit more lazy because of the US vehicle market. Regulations in Europe are forcing the hand of most auto makers to give a damn about the emissions (then there is VW's rather embarrassing scandal with diesel tests, something that they are **still** paying for... 4 years latter), and that kind of pressure simply doesn't exist in the US. So, for now, every EV that I seem come out of Ford is basically them testing the market, establishing a presence but that will not last forever. Ford is not about to sell two vastly different vehicles for the two markets, and keeping the ICE vehicles around will get costly in Europe. They can't ignore that market. I think that there will come a point where Ford has to get serious about EV's, the F150 EV is not them being serious (it a convert truck: they sell that, the ICE truck and are about to launch a PHEV of the F150), the Mustang could be if the platform keeps selling but I don't see it. The Ford GT Mark I/ The Ford GT40 is Ford Motor Company getting serious. They have a rather long history of that, and honestly speaking, the spectre of Ford just waiting with money to BURN to be a part of the space should scare anyone. I await when the Ford clan looks at EV's and goes "I want it. I want in." Because things will get heated once they put the company's full weight behind a vehicle.
1) He isn't pissed 2) Electric cars are simply not there yet. This is pure fact that you and other mentally behind and uneducated electric fanboys need to accept Cars should be compatible with your life, not the other way araound That is the brute reality Chris "the petrol head's" word is single handedly less biased and more objective then the word of degenerates who don't know shit about cars
I'm not throwing shade at the new show (I think it's pretty good), but these youtube videos with Chris and...the other guy (name, please?) are the best part of it.
Maybe, maybe not... The hybird shift would be an interesting one, especially if Porsche goes with a PHEV but they can't keep the 911 from the regulations forever. That is simply not possible and as Chris points out, it will be a costly thing to do. It will not be for a while, about 20-30 years out by the looks of it... but come that point, Porsche has a choice to make. Kill the 911 or electrify it. That is the wall that they will have to put up, and I don't want to be the CEO whom has to make that call.
Unless they jack up car tax more and reduce electric car prices somewhat I think yr safe in yr engine for at least 10+ more years, I wanna see them deal with emissions from cargo ships!
John Shev that’s your opinion but not an absolute truth. I lot of people, including me are excited for more sustainable transport. Especially since electric cars are surpassing ICE powered cars in most aspects. It’s only a matter of time until ICE become obsolete (in cars).
Dominic Hammel you’ve used the words ‘sustainable’ and ‘excited’ in the same sentence. Dude, me and you are defiantly not on the same page! Haha. They can ban all they want. Ever seen Mad Max? Scavenging then wasteland for gasoline to power his V8 muscle car. I’d take it to that level before owning a milk float
It's an old thing between Tesla and Top Gear. The old trio once reviewed a Tesla and kinda laughed at it which pissed of Tesla and Elon, resulting in them suing, and losing as Top Gear claims they're an entertainment show and not an informative show. He dropped that comment in there as bit of a little jab at Tesla.
I fully support your views Chris and I believe many of us feel the same way about the current politics of the future of automobiles. Thank you for doing your best to tell us just enough to bring us back to reality before being hushed up by all the self appointed captain planets of the world drunk on the same coolaid and dancing to the tune of an enviromentally friendly Smurf jig. Makes me sick that we live in times where political correctness and agendas outweigh personal views, reality and sanity. This coming from someone who makes ones living from renewable energy solutions for the future.
@n s You see, this is where people make the same mistake and become fixated on CO2 and climate change as if that's the only consequence of burning fossil fuels. My first concern is getting ICE cars off the streets so my daughter can walk to school in relatively clean air.
5:20 The difference is that electric cars can do far more miles than traditional internal combustion engines, with relatively little maintenance. A properly cared for battery can last between 300,000 to 500,000 miles, with the possibility of doing even more in the future. With the average driver in the UK putting 10,000 miles or less on the odometer, that means that these cars could be on the road for 30-50 years!
My dude, for MOST people 15,000 miles is one year of driving and you’re in the green from that point forward...forever. In what world is that a bad thing?
Average mileage for cars in UK was 7600 miles in 2018 - this is a downward trend as the average in 2002 was 9200 miles per year. UK gov stats are here: www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/nts09-vehicle-mileage-and-occupancy#car-mileage So for the average person they'd need to own the car for 2 years before the green benefits start to show.
Chris Harris is one of the only sane automotive journalists.
He's holding top gear together just now
He's a, great presenter you can see his pasion in every interview
indeed,,,you dont need more - he can drive - he is sincere - he has a pleasant personality :) - Tiff can be more entertaining..?
@@davidstuart4915
Tiff was great aswell
Will Roberts I agree with you, sir. Henry Catchpole Carfection videos are absolutely stunning.
and Clarkson to be honest. If you can go through a mist of his ignorance you will actually see it
Wonder if they pay Chris enough...he's basically topgear's last hope
Pretty sure he owns a Ferrari
@@dghost198 which one
Even when he wasn't with top gear he owned a ff and other super cars just from money from /drive.
As long as people keep paying their license fee, top gear will survive.
@@dghost198 I know he has an early Citroen 2CV
Chris really makes Top Gear, as he is brutally honest about everything!
DoubleDeckerAnton he's an Aquarius that's why
Chris is IGNORANT and CLUELESS. He'll clearly rather have unrestrained MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING. What. An. ID!#T!!!
angela1984a what are you talking about? Why the remarks?
@@mell3109 Did you watch the video?
angela1984a of course, he obviously knows his stuff. Most people haven’t got a clue how un eco friendly EV cars are and buy into the crap you get fed at the end. They forget that to get make the thing and the life cycle management is by far more damaging. We are getting mugged off and most don’t realise it. Chris does, do your research before you slag him off,
Pep guardiuola about the new taycan
haha, the similarity is unremarkable
@@bastiaans5498 unremarkable?
@@bastiaans5498 remarkable*
Hahahahaha
Bruh, that had never even crossed my mind and now I can't unsee it haha
"when Porsche turns up to do it I get excited" immediate thumbs up
Tesla rule the e-car roost... At the moment. As soon as the big German manufacturers get into their stride Tesla will have to up their game! Which is good because this means better electric cars for us customers. On a final note, Tesla need to sort out their styling, interior design and build quality although the build quality is improving slightly over time.
“We are getting a dangerously close to be informative here...” that has been a very bad thing for a while now in Britain
United Kingdom ...
Randomuserisrandom Ding I think he meant not enough people know about EV cars producing emissions in other ways, and they were trying to focus on the car and way it drives I guess. Or they’re saying they don’t want top gear to become too highbrow I’m not sure.
@Randomuserisrandom Ding Top gear is regarded as entertainment show appose to customer car buyer expert advice shown .
@@Joolz1982 emissions from production? The factory that makes this Porsche runs on renewable energy. The UK electricity grid is MAJORITY carbon free now and the percentage of the grid run from burning fossil fuel drops by 5% every year.
Do you know how much coal we burn to make electricity now? Just over 2% of the grid. Less than 1% by the end of the year. We haven't built a new fossil fuel burning power station in this country for almost a decade.
Solar produces more power in the UK now than coal does. Solar. In Britain.
There is a lot of nonsense FUD about the cleanliness of EVs. There is no doubt at all that they are cleaner than the cars they replace. None.
@@timaustin2000 😆
"Teslas are cars for people who don't like cars"
Love you Chris
This!!!
Salvatore Caruso i sell teslas for a living and even the most car people love our cars. I sold a performance model 3 yesterday to someone who had a 17 carrera 4s so to me this isnt quite true. i get what hes saying because we put safety and technology as priorities, but to say they are for people who dont like cars is a bit of a weird generalization.
I don't know if I fully agree with that. I have two friends that are big drag fanatics that had 9 and 10 second daily driven cars that have gone p100d since last year. Weird? Yes.
@@fardinhooo It is because Teslas are not cars, but Ipads on wheels. So why would someone who just had one Carrera 4 S not buy an Ipad. He is not gonna "drive" with it though.
Exactly
This is why I love these smaller interviews with Chris; always honest, always spot on and always looking at the bigger picture. My compliments and please more!
Good honest review from a guy that actually knows what he’s talking about.
Mostly....Just not about the environmental aspect of cars. Probably best he sticks to taking about how they drive and what the interiors are like.
he knows about evs? i don’t think so mate
Marcelo Hendrix alright musk, calm down!
You do know that Top Gear is not supposed to be a car show?
Agree with Harris. Tire technology needs to step up or you'll be needing a new set every lap.
Tire companies would go out of business if their tires didn’t need to be replaced all the time
get some toyo or nitto tyres, the 2 biggest brands for burnouts, or michelin come in third
I mean the expectations of tires is grossly underestimated..transitional loads such as turning under braking causes so much stress.i think power management will be what gains the most over the next 10years.. awd systems will evolve ..they have too
@@damianbritton1472 different tyre models from each manufacturer will all use different rubber compounds, hard, medium, soft, you just get the tyre you require
Most people, even those with super cars, are just driving them normally
I can listen to Chris talking about the cars for hours... Genius!
Check out his podcast - collecting cars.
@@gerardwalsh4724 THANK YOU GODSEND
"A car for people that don't like cars" is one of the best Tesla summaries I've heard a auto journalist say
So true
Facts
This should be an exclusive interview format. We aren’t interested in non-Chris Harris views
When it comes to Tesla and EV Chris Harris’s thoughts are exactly in line with mine.
I second this opinion. It’s baffling how many Tesla Cultists are on here trying to downplay his command on the car industry.
As soon as Chris said "Where's all the lithium coming from. Where are the heavy metals..." that was it for me. Finally a car journalist is not getting caught up in the "electric car hype" and is starting to talk some sense. Respect to Chris Harris.
To paraphrase Chris, "car batteries are less polluting than people are giving them credit for".
Also Lithium, cobalt and nickel are in very limited supply. So they will run out, just like oil. All we are doing is using a different limited resource. What we should be doing is developing and improving hydrogen fuel cell technology. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the known universe.
Lithium is a relatively abundant material, if the whole worlds population, man, woman and children each had an EV tomorrow there would still be enough to go round. Other rare earth materials such as Cobalt are being designed out down from 25% to 3% by anode weight so 0.1 to 0.001% of battery total. No material is limitless but EV batteries are 95% recyclable so will give 1000s of years of use. Compared to mine, burn emit CO2 of fossil fuels which is not sustainable there will have to be another answer within 50 years and the longer we leave it the more potential damage we do to the climate (not an experiment worth risking), the clock is ticking.
Jamie G The majority of cobalt is now used to refine crude oil, to decrease sulfur levels So while we are now essentially burning our supply of cobalt, we could also use it in batteries and maybe even recycle the material. However, I absolutely agree that cobalt mining is filthy business.
@@japsniper1980 Battery development is not standing still. Tesla has already reduced the cobalt requirement by 80% or so.
Going to add "minted" to my daily vocab. Well said as always Chris Harris - the best in the biz right now.
I liked "full beans" myself...
we say it up here in Glasgow all the time
He must be referring to the turbo models. The other ones are quite attainable
Chris’s face is saying: do I have to talk to you?
He always seems hugely intimidated interviewing Chris, something tells me it’s more than his eyes saying it when the cameras aren’t rolling!
Don't mean to toot my own horn but I think I could do a better job than the guy on the right. By the way BBC, I am available!
Great review guys. I am so glad you said Chris that the new tec. Is for the rich. Don't stop speaking your mind please.
It starts out for the rich, eventually you reach economies of scale and the price drops significantly and the masses can get it. Same thing as the smartphone, the PC, and even combustion engine cars when they first came out.
I got a Nissan Leaf with 226 miles of range for 28k USD. Plenty of range for my daily use and not that expensive. Not all electric cars cost an arm and a leg
@@sbatra86 I see that with Tesla. It wasn't necessarily for the rich but you needed an affluent income level. I see quite a few of them around SF Bay Area these days. Not so exclusive of a car as it was a few years back.
My Zoe costs less to own and run per month than the direct equivalent Clio by £60. No word of a lie.
If I lived in London I'd be over £100 in profit a month. Every month.
Company car? Take 40% off the upfront cost of any electric as of this year.
Chris is wrong about this.
I know a dozen EV owners in my area. Not one of them is wealthy (okay, one: he has a Model 3). I sure as hell am not and I'm driving an EV that will get me most of the way down the country with a single top up charge of 40 minutes.
This narrative is old and out of date, just like much of the information in this segment.
Chris is IGNORANT and CLUELESS. He'll clearly rather have unrestrained MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING. What. An. ID!#T!!!
At last someone in the public eye talking about the practical issues with EV's. Well done Chris. An electric 911! God forbid.
5:20 the most truthful talk, which they have to pull back, and get back to the 'commercial chatter'
Its not going to be perfect on day one get over it... or do you really enjoy that permanent numbing smell of noxious fumes?
Eh. Not really. You can tell he’s wildly undereducated on this topic by leading with “where’s the lithium coming from?”
@@lwwells Exactly.
To clarify I'm addressing the information about the manufacturing carbon footprint to mass produce EV vehicles. The daily operational footprint is smaller, but the manufacturing side is larger. At least for now, until other or more clean power source(s) are discovered and utilized. I want to know how many miles/kilometers the vehicles need to travel, before they have nullified the manufacturing carbon footprint, by having zero daily operational footprint. Will it take 1yr, 5yr, 10yr?
@@LoneWolf-wp9dn actually yes, I do love the aroma of gasoline, engine oil, and leather. This mostly speaking about my years of riding a motorcycle. But now days it's the sound of operation, that I can feel, when driving a ICE car. If EV cars 'sound and feel' like a combustion engine, I'll be more motivated to purchase one. This is like the 'ring tone' on phones, when we moved away from telephones that actually had Bells in them.
I finally saw the Taycan in person this weekend, the dealer had a Turbo model on the showroom. These are beautiful cars that handle amazingly well despite coming with All-Season tires. The rear seat is big enough for two 6 foot adults. I think when the Taycan 4S arrives they won't be able to make enough to fill demand. I mean the Panamera is slightly larger, but essentially the same price and burns a ton of gas while being much slower and worse handling. I think the Taycan is going to steal a ton of Panamera sales as well as bring new people to Porsche.
Is that because demand will be high or their inability to source enough batteries?
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r well the factory only has so much capacity and they are said to already be producing them as fast as they can. The new factory can produce around 40,000 units a year, which is about the same as the 911.
refilling is easier with gas, but porsche is also a sportscar that you can drive every day. If 90% of the time you drive to work you just charge at home. Even with the time you spend on long trips on chargers, which is with the porsch a lot less then most electric cars, is for 99% of the people overall less then filling up gas every now and then.
I went to see one 3 months ago, and never have I seen anyone be so sure when they make a statement. He said that he thought it would take up 30% of total sales. If so, I just hope that Porsche will stay a niche manufacturer and not go mainstream and be ruined by the globalization, as such is happening to Benz, Audi and BMW.
Taycan. The super bowl AD was brilliant
If Chris harris was my wife, we'd never argue
Until it comes to who drives the car 😁
So you are the bich :D
What? Why wouldn't you argue with him? It's so beautiful when he has to argue about something
I hear he gets pretty mad at people who forget to capitalise his surname though...
GIVE THIS GUY A PODCAST! I love listening to Chris. He speaks so much sense!
@@Joolz1982 Yeah, i know them all :)) Collecting cars is his podcast. It's quite cool. Love the Tiff episode, especially!
We need more of these videos - I could watch chris talk about cars and the changes to the industry for days
Honest insight from Chris, I just learn so much listening to him. No PR bullsh**.
these "interviews" are always great. keep them coming
Porsche to Tesla: "Taycan play at that game"
Top Gear booooooo
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Chris Harris keeping it REAL. Respect.
This is a totally honest review & I could nit agree with you anymore! An electric car like this just a status symbol no more no less!
So is any supercar, what is your point? I got a 226 mile range nissan leaf for $28k after tax incentives and rebates.
Which Porsche isn’t a status symbol?
"where the lithium is coming from?" doubt is a strong weapon... thanks Big oil!
Oil ❤
Where's palladium coming from? What the hell is it. And cobalt is also used in gasoline. And nobody cares but in an EV. The worst thing.
@@bluebikerathar because people don't like EVs.
Hasan Genc ah ah try to convince everyone but the selling percentages show you the contrary
Jaimie Duthoy there is also palladium in ICE cars in catalyst filters. and I never heard of recycling those... You’re right the oil industry uses far more cobalt than the battery industry to remove the sulfur from oil and in catalyst filter when in fact the battery industry is going from 4% cobalt to 0% in their batteries.
People must know: www.cobaltinstitute.org/desulphurisation.html
" What frustrate me about tesla is obviously cars for people who don't like cars" BANG ON ! Chris Harris is the best journalist out there right now !
Does the other guy ever stick with his own opinion? Whenever Chris has a different angle he just changes his mind. Chris is always correct of course, but that's beside the point.
"The other guy" is the deputy editor of Top Gear magazine, and he is conducting the interview - so asking for opinions, not telling them.
These are not mad TH-cam commenters not budging from their opinion. ;-)
The other guy is a moron that got to this point through sheer luck. He hasn’t got a clue about cars and it comes through in everything he says and the way he conducts himself. It’s a shame to see Harris have to put up with this idiot, the frustration is constantly visible on his face
Chris Harris is the one person who can get me back for watching TopGear again.
Why did Top Gear hire Harris and then hired another guy to interrupt him. smh.
He’s the BossMan
Finally someone who explains it so that normal car guys understand it. THX!
"Where does the lithium come from?" - A valid question, but there's rarely any analysis of "Where does the petrol come from?".
It's not just take it out of the ground and chuck it in your 911, the amount of CO2 emissions tied up in refinement are huge. Because the data is "commercially sensitive" it's rarely available for the public either so really difficult to do a proper analysis on it. Plus, the batteries can be recycled into charging stations - petrol once it's burned...cannot be used again.
Range is definitely getting better every year but from most EV owners I've spoken to they've barely noticed the range, as most daily drives are under 200 miles before a break anyway. Of course different from car enthusiasts like Chris et al, but I imagine 90% of UK drivers are exactly those that "pootle around town".
Still, the fact you likely need a off-street charger and £30k+ definitely makes them expensive toys at the minute. But the Taycan looks like it's doing well at being the toy everyone wants...
Great post
doesn't matter, graphite batteries are already here and are the future of all solid state batteries
CO2 from cars is simply not warming the planet.
Chris hits the nail on the head again: his comments about sourcing lithium and that Tesla drivers are not interested in cars is bang on. Chris you are a credit to journalism and not all the hyped up bollocks from non-car journalists who are more interested in a skinny latte's than smoking tyes and brakes.
This is probably the only car that has me excited about electric cars. And I trust Porsche do it right
0:50 nice lip sync edit
I’m with Chris on this topic
Chris is IGNORANT and CLUELESS. He'll clearly rather have unrestrained MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING. What. An. ID!#T!!!
@@angela1984a Do you just copy and paste the same statement? What's the point?
@n s What a load of old tosh. You only have to look at the problems big cities have with pollution during peak traffic or look up the stats re the number of city dwellers with respiratory problems, children with asthma etc to realise this can't go on. Now with almost 8 Billion people who increasingly want their own transport something has to be done.
@@user-jt1jv8vl9r Let's see if you can guess what the point is...
A few gripes with this video.
-There are car people who like Teslas (I consider myself one) I like what electric cars that are done right bring to the table and to watch the evolution of the automobile in real time is exhilarating.
-Electricity is getting cleaner and cleaner by the day as we push to use more solar, wind, hydro and nuclear, that estimate is subject to change and even if it remained true the impact is still less than any ICE.
-Lithium mining is performed in South American deserts where barely any life is at all, extracting it from the sand is barely a detriment.
Every time I cross a roundabout in my Leaf I almost smash into a car in front who thought they could pull out in front.... nah mate, you won't make it. People need to understand electric cars speed off the line.
I can't imagine a world without GT3's just GTE's 😥
I doubt it would be called a GTE but we will have to see, I hope to god it won't 😭
Look at what they're did with the 919 Evo. A less dirty GT3 will be more epic than you can imagine.
Wont happen anyway.
Couldn’t agree more with you, Chris. You have my highest respect! 👍👍👍
jon doe didn’t make any sense lol
Criticising Tesla cornering is like critiquing the gait of a dog walking on two legs. It's an American car. It's amazing it does it at all.
As Chris says, Tesla changed the game. Without the model S, the Taycan doesn't exist.
AmErican car.
Model S is NOT a sport car, it's massive in comparison, think more Merc E class.
Currently, I would argue the Model 3 is closer in size and spec, although it's still not a sports car, it's a 4 door family saloon, mind you, the 3 is much lighter, can go much further and it's massively cheaper!
the killer for this will be the Roadster 2, that will be a sports car - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster_(2020)
Taycan is the result of EU rulemaking in the past decennium first and foremost. The Model S provided a benchmark but the decision to start building electric cars goes back to before Tesla was a big thing.
"Without the model S, the Taycan doesn't exist." You say that. And yet, the Model S released in 2012, the Mission E was a driveable concept in 2015. Porsche had hybrids and electric Cayman/Boxster concepts by 2011. The whole industry was moving this way by that point. Tesla accelerated the change, it didn't invent the game.
@@JMartinni exactly! They existed before Tesla, when it was just a unit.
I don't dislike electric cars particularly, but I utterly despise that they're being sold as an environmental benefit when they so clearly are not.
People go on about the cobalt use in batteries but they don't know that cobalt has been used to remove sulphur from fuel all this time. Over 500 cycles in a battery but one off for a tank of petrol.
www.cobaltinstitute.org/desulphurisation.html
@@jeremydasneves6037 Don't bring facts to a my emotions Jeremy.
"When they so clearly are not". Care to provide some proof?
Bring on the taycan estate 👌 will be the coolest modern car by a long way
A R i think it will be the Panamera for the estate version
@@yarkmates3409 Porsche have previewed the estate version of the Taycan. It is an all road crossover version. Porsche said there is a crossover version coming. Not sure if it will be 100% like the concept or more crossover and less estate.
Good news for you. A Porsche Taycan Estate has been spied doing a few tests around the Nurburgring so if we're lucky, we'll see it by the end of this year.
Harris is spot on: make an electric automobile that car people will get excited about
Porsche did it on their first try, as expected. I dont like EVs....but the Taycan is so nice. And im certainly not the only one.
EV makes have to be profitable. If you want to get excited stick to pornhub.
The Porsche Taycan is exciting to me
Yes true. Not the biggest supporter of EV’s and frankly the Tesla model 3 performance is a pretty nice car too. But the fanboys make it so so hard to like. For true petrol heads, the Taycan is a ray of hope that signifies that there will be companies that pay attention to driving dynamics and the ‘joy of driving’ as EV’s grow. It’s a sad thing to watch the death of the ICE but that’s some relief.
This is where you see these guys' differences, Chris Harris is open to discuss the realities of the world without any fear of getting canceled, while the other guy is the bare opposite and is scared sh*tless of being canceled. Chris is as genuine as a man can and should be. Great guy. This is why people love him.
Valid point being made by Chris re. the true carbon footprint of an electric car. It certainly has been politicised. However, there still are some important benefits. Firstly, if you're a city dweller, especially the dense ones in major cities, removing exhaust gases from traffic will be hugely beneficial. Second, the power to charge the cars can and should come more and more from renewable sources. And third, mining for lithium isn't pretty but it probably couldn't hurt to support countries' economies that aren't in, say, the Middle East. I believe the largest known reserves are in Bolivia. So, emphatically no, owning a Taycan doesn't save the ice caps, but it's part of some important trends that, when adopted en masse, can have some important, positive effects.
Chris Harris - "because the futures gonna be great. FART" 7:06
I wish this was TV Top Gear. Sick of people just shouting for an hour.
Maybe I'm just getting old.
Chris Harris is a true automotive journalist. I remember when he used to write and review for Autocar back in the day. He had a full head of hair and triangular sideburns
God i love chris harris’ takes so much. If all of youtube was just chris harris on this chris harris on that i’d be happy
Love Chris's comments! Honest and objective. just mint.
I love every single type and kind of cars
Except the fiat multipla of course. That thing is just too ugly
@@C10-l1m or the Tesla Model 3, looks just as ugly
@@hasangenc2922 No it does not
@@unicorntomboy9736 it actually does
@@unicorntomboy9736 It kinda does. It's just bland car with a bland interior. It's just boring. A fucking Honda Accord looks more interesting than a Model S or 3. A fucking Honda.
Chris Harris, HOW DARE YOU!!! LOL Chris Harris actually spitting the TRUTH.
ahahahahahah
Laugh in Tesla.
Rewinds back to the start 7 times, thinking "screw the Porsche, talk about the Audi in the background." ....
I could hear Chris Harris talk about cars for 3 days straight without getting bored.. he Just has a way to deliver his opinion that is near impossible to match in the car community (Clarkson is another one) and just straight honesty no Bullshitting around.
Model 3 Performance is quicker around the topgear track than a BMW M3 and 0.1 seconds slower than a Giulia Quadrofoglio on 70(!) threadwear tires. But it does not handle. Sure.
From motortrend;
«Mr. Consistency just laid down a 1:22.78. That's 1.12 seconds quicker than the Tesla.
Then somebody notices the Alfa's Pirelli P Zero Corsa AR Asimmetrico front tires. They're asimmetrico, all right: Half of each tread block's rubber is gone after two sets of three hard laps. The Tesla engineer points to his car's Michelin Pilot Sport 4Ss that are at worst scuffed. "We could do that time if we were willing to destroy our tires," he says.»
They later returned with Michelin Cup 2 tires and was 3 seconds faster than the Alfa.
Porsche knows performance is what sells EV technology. The Taycan becomes an aspirational model now for people who want the best. Porsche can now create a Macan EV for the mainstream with much less scrutiny.
this car is 🔥
When are you guys (bbc) gonna realise that a motoring show with Chris Harris on his own would be gold.
Can somebody tell Chris Harris to behave. I love him when he's talking about fast cars. But that doesn't mean that reflects the majority of the car industry.
The average amount of miles for a UK driver is 10000-12000miles. 1st of all. So a car that needs to be driven 15000 miles to work out as carbon neutral means it would reach that in just over a year. Considering the average lifespan of cars in the UK is about 15yrs, complaining about 1 or 2yrs is nonsense. Plus, 1/3rd of energy in the UK is provided by renewable sources.
Also, the batteries can be quite easily and successfully be removed, charged locally via renewables like solar and used to power other things like street lights after using them in the cars is no longer viable(in over a decade), therefore reducing the need for power from the grid to.
He has been against EVs from the start. Most people ARE just commuting in their cars, mate. Driving to and from work, shops etc. Very few people get out to test the edge of their cars limits and handling or go for pleasure drives. The upper speed limit on roads is 70mph. Many places in cities are bringing in 20mph zones. Him feeling sad about sports cars becoming electric says more about him being stuck in the past than it does about the car industry dragging it's heels. He's out of sync. The majority of cars are for normal driving, with a tiny bit of hoonery. Not the other way around.
And this is from a biker who doesn't pay any mind to speed limits. We're a small section of the population.
And let's not forget, a Tesla model 3 performance just toasted some of his favourite fast cars around the track. He should remember. He was driving.
Craig Most high end Porsche and super cars cover very low mileage - his comment is correct in the context of most 911 owners (not all).
@@rallycrosscraig yeah agreed, it's the same for us lot who ride bikes too. Very few actually put much miles on them(but, someone who buys a Taycan or Panamera would normally put more on it) . Such a waste. But, that is kinda what I'm saying. It makes their point of view even less valid,if you get where I'm coming from? Plus, the actual car is still going to cover more than those 15k-25k miles. Someone down the road is going to buy the car for cheap with 75k miles on the clock and it'll still be on the road in 15yrs. So the benefits are still there.
Chris is referring to the more expensive cars. Generally cars in the price range of a Porsche don't accumulate much mileage per year. It is often times the toy weekend car for trips. It's not common to see a Porsche or some other exotic car out in commute traffic.
@@Rhaspun yeah, true for a pure sports car like a boxster or 911,maybe. They're more weekend toys. But, these fast tourers are a bit different. I reckon the average mileage for a Panamera is probably much higher than that of a Boxster. There aren't any EV sports cars, so his point is neither here nor there.
Being faster doesn't mean more fun. And that's his entire point from the perspective of an enthusiast fun doesn't always equal acceleration and lap times. And few laps around one track doesn't prove anything. I've yet to see Tesla be relevant in the nurburgring which is where most manufacturers prove and test their cars for a reason.
He's not out of sync just because he doesn't share your view's. Im tired of people calling out other's for being "stuck the past" when they have a difference of opinion....just because he isn't sheep and follow's the majority of people doesn't make him wrong . He has every reason and right to feel sad about it, he grew up with ICE car's and there is passion and feeling to them that electric's will never possess.
Chris hit the nail on the head. Teslas supercharger network is that good it contributes so much to the car, entirely true you can road trip in a Tesla. On the public road ill stick with my Tesla and keep the £50k in the bank compared to Tie can but I appreciate what Chris is saying about handling, then again my last car was a Chrysler 300c so 2 ton and just as big as the Model S I thought that was fun to chuck around, I like a challenge! Competition will be good for Tesla......plaid Model S please Mr Musk
Already a dozen drag races where Taycan easily has beaten Model S Raven. Multiple track tests where Taycan annihilates any Tesla with several seconds per lap.
On Nurburgring, Taycan is more than a minute faster than any Tesla.
Multiple publications and reports that praise Taycan's handling, endurance, build quality, range, repeatable performance, fit and finish, range..
Almost any journalist that is not a Tesla fanboy says that Taycan is superior...
And yet, under every Taycan video, Tesla fanboys pollute the thread with their ignorance...
Also every owner has said that the EPA range is completely wrong and they get the same range as their Tesla.
So what? It is twice as expensive, has worse charging infrastructure, no OTAs, no self driving capabilities and is like 8 years newer. At the end of the day, definitely great car but not that impressive. $180K? Please :D
@@Robert-cu9bm The EPA range is a scientific test not some anecdotal evidence found on TH-cam, the reason in some scenarios the range figures are close is because the Taycan is optimized for high speed highway driving, however it does poorly efficiency wise in city/rural driving.
Chris Harris needs to get a podcast. I would listen religiously.
Expat In UK Biker check out the stuff he did on Smokin Tire podcast and he has a podcast called collecting cars but does not update that often it seems.
@@Joolz1982
Thanks. I never knew he had that. I'll check it out.
Chris Harris you are the man great review
1:28 When an ICE has too much power, Chris Harris:"That's what you need".
When an EV has too much power, Chris Harris:"You don't need that much power"
*roll eyes *
Not true, he stated the SF90 was too fast as well.
He always stated some cars are too powerful to use, and he is right on that.
Ok I agree with a lot that Chris is saying but people who don’t like cars get something cheap or quiet like a Prius, Tesla’s are cars for people who want a fun electric car that is cheaper then a Porsche or The higher end Tesla’s.
Nope. Most people praising Tesla, are shitting and bashing the ICE (and its car industry) in the same sentence. They completely ignore the huge achievements of ICE.
Chris, you're the man.
RARELY do i listen to someone who's both got the brains and keeps it real
A really excellent Q&A session, bringing up some great points. It would be good to hear more about the points raised by Chris in the segment starting at 5:20.
I doubt we will, like the other guy said, they were "getting dangerously close to being (too) informative" 😂😂😂
Came here to say Chris Harris is just plain good at his job, pretty much what everyone is saying. Glad he was given Top Gear to do his thing.
761hp is in launch mode only
To be honest, you don't want that problem on your hand while driving on a public road. You're literally a cramp away from death in electric sportcars.
Chris on point as always!
The best EV on todays market.
Chris is a legend. Think it would be fascinating to go for a beer with him and talk cars.
2:47 is why I rejected a second date with a otherwise beautiful girl.
😂
Europe: Every car must be electric!
Ford USA: Here’s our new 7.3 liter V8
Also Ford: "Here's the Mustang Mach-e"
Timothy Vaschu every company will make an electric car but I think Ford will sell more gas or diesel powered vehicles in the US for a while. It will be hard to make a F550 electric
@@MattLitkeRacing
They are doing it with the F150, but I happen to agree with you. Ford is doing to be a bit more lazy because of the US vehicle market. Regulations in Europe are forcing the hand of most auto makers to give a damn about the emissions (then there is VW's rather embarrassing scandal with diesel tests, something that they are **still** paying for... 4 years latter), and that kind of pressure simply doesn't exist in the US.
So, for now, every EV that I seem come out of Ford is basically them testing the market, establishing a presence but that will not last forever. Ford is not about to sell two vastly different vehicles for the two markets, and keeping the ICE vehicles around will get costly in Europe. They can't ignore that market.
I think that there will come a point where Ford has to get serious about EV's, the F150 EV is not them being serious (it a convert truck: they sell that, the ICE truck and are about to launch a PHEV of the F150), the Mustang could be if the platform keeps selling but I don't see it. The Ford GT Mark I/ The Ford GT40 is Ford Motor Company getting serious. They have a rather long history of that, and honestly speaking, the spectre of Ford just waiting with money to BURN to be a part of the space should scare anyone.
I await when the Ford clan looks at EV's and goes "I want it. I want in." Because things will get heated once they put the company's full weight behind a vehicle.
That Audi Quattro in the background 😍 - hope that's going to be on the TV at some point 🔥
Gotta say, I love these one on one break down vids! 👌🏾
Chris Harris (as a petrol head) future will change (again) with thoose new tecnology....and he seems a little pissed about it
I watched a different video to you.
@jon doe Trolling so desperately on every comment hoping someone will believe in what your obsessed with.
1) He isn't pissed
2) Electric cars are simply not there yet.
This is pure fact that you and other mentally behind and uneducated electric fanboys need to accept
Cars should be compatible with your life, not the other way araound
That is the brute reality
Chris "the petrol head's" word is single handedly less biased and more objective then the word of degenerates who don't know shit about cars
@jon doe wow you really dedicated, you? I see you on every video related to Harris. So sad.
@@boltmix7294...é isso tudo e couves tambem.
Wow, he just summed up Tesla perfectly
The death of the sailboat
I'm not throwing shade at the new show (I think it's pretty good), but these youtube videos with Chris and...the other guy (name, please?) are the best part of it.
"...the 911 will remain [a gas-powered car]"
Future narrator: It would not.
Maybe, maybe not... The hybird shift would be an interesting one, especially if Porsche goes with a PHEV but they can't keep the 911 from the regulations forever. That is simply not possible and as Chris points out, it will be a costly thing to do. It will not be for a while, about 20-30 years out by the looks of it... but come that point, Porsche has a choice to make. Kill the 911 or electrify it.
That is the wall that they will have to put up, and I don't want to be the CEO whom has to make that call.
Chris is on of the smartest guys in moto industry, props to him.
Er not he is not, I bet you ever single Engineer at any successful company is smarter, he is a good presenter, but calm down fan boy
@@anyexpat you bet me ever, whats that even mean ?
I waited so long for this !
@jon doe unnecessary.
Great insightful analysis of electric cars, thank you.
As a car enthusiast I'm really really really gonna miss internal combustion engines it makes me depressed thinking about it
Airmax90_king I think the power and the much better torque vectoring might be able to compensate easily ;).
Dominic Hammel that’ll become boring very quickly. These cars are soulless. Like an I phone, disposable!
Unless they jack up car tax more and reduce electric car prices somewhat I think yr safe in yr engine for at least 10+ more years, I wanna see them deal with emissions from cargo ships!
John Shev that’s your opinion but not an absolute truth. I lot of people, including me are excited for more sustainable transport. Especially since electric cars are surpassing ICE powered cars in most aspects. It’s only a matter of time until ICE become obsolete (in cars).
Dominic Hammel you’ve used the words ‘sustainable’ and ‘excited’ in the same sentence. Dude, me and you are defiantly not on the same page! Haha. They can ban all they want. Ever seen Mad Max? Scavenging then wasteland for gasoline to power his V8 muscle car. I’d take it to that level before owning a milk float
Thank God Chris Harris speaks sense.
5:51
🤷🏻♂️ Why?!
It's an old thing between Tesla and Top Gear. The old trio once reviewed a Tesla and kinda laughed at it which pissed of Tesla and Elon, resulting in them suing, and losing as Top Gear claims they're an entertainment show and not an informative show.
He dropped that comment in there as bit of a little jab at Tesla.
I fully support your views Chris and I believe many of us feel the same way about the current politics of the future of automobiles. Thank you for doing your best to tell us just enough to bring us back to reality before being hushed up by all the self appointed captain planets of the world drunk on the same coolaid and dancing to the tune of an enviromentally friendly Smurf jig. Makes me sick that we live in times where political correctness and agendas outweigh personal views, reality and sanity. This coming from someone who makes ones living from renewable energy solutions for the future.
I really like Tesla but am glad other companies are finally catching on as well. More competition is always good for the consumer.
n s Don’t quite see where you are going with that...
Have to agree, whilst Tesla is miles ahead in so many ways, the old manufacturers know more about how to make a cars handling interesting.
@n s You see, this is where people make the same mistake and become fixated on CO2 and climate change as if that's the only consequence of burning fossil fuels. My first concern is getting ICE cars off the streets so my daughter can walk to school in relatively clean air.
5:20 The difference is that electric cars can do far more miles than traditional internal combustion engines, with relatively little maintenance. A properly cared for battery can last between 300,000 to 500,000 miles, with the possibility of doing even more in the future. With the average driver in the UK putting 10,000 miles or less on the odometer, that means that these cars could be on the road for 30-50 years!
That’s why I’m excited for BMW taking their time so electric M cars drive like proper M cars
They should hurry.
BaBeLoo BaDoo all about timing. Unlike Mercedes and Audi already adding weight to their cars
You mean like how Nokia took their time to get into the smart phone market? I think Tesla will smash BMW and the like as Apple smashed Nokia.
R tesla can never make performance cars like BMW and Porsche
6:55, definitely excited to see whats in store if the taycan is a taste!
My dude, for MOST people 15,000 miles is one year of driving and you’re in the green from that point forward...forever. In what world is that a bad thing?
Average mileage for cars in UK was 7600 miles in 2018 - this is a downward trend as the average in 2002 was 9200 miles per year. UK gov stats are here: www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/nts09-vehicle-mileage-and-occupancy#car-mileage
So for the average person they'd need to own the car for 2 years before the green benefits start to show.
SkyYeti _ oh no... a whole two years. How long to see the same benefit in a petrol vehicle.? Oh wait...
If Chris Harris wasn’t on Top Gear, I wouldn’t be watching.