The Funniest Star Trek Convention of all time! (Kirk and Spock) fixed audio
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This was recorded at the 2009 Dragon Con in Atlanta. The audio drifted in the original video for some reason, so I fixed it in PowerDirector.
Thanks to the original uploader.
A lot of people talk of their tumultuous friendship but you can see here just how close they are and how fond of each other they are. The best sci-duo of all time. Shame Bones wasn't there with them.
@SPC74 I keep hearing this about “Bones” the( doctor ) do you know what happened??
@@craigandsnowwadam4511 DeForest Kelley, "Bones", died 10 years before this was recorded, that's what happened.
Even though they’re highly experienced actors, this kind of continuous ad-lib only works between long time close friends.
I'd like to think Leonard is up there in heaven smiling down on Bill saying, "Bill, I have been and always shall be your friend. Live long and prosper."
Didn't they have a falling out for a few years up to the time of Leonard's death, some time after this convention in the video?
William Shatner is 92 years old now. Wow....hang in there Captain Kirk. (5-22-23.) You did live long and prosper. Keep it up.
The healthiest 92 year old I have ever seen, I'm sure he will smash through the century barrier with no problems.
He recently went to space becoming the world's oldest Astronaut! 😊
@@jymfysher7704 Cool
It was all those Fiber bars! :p
@@richardcarter5082 As long as Shatner's CPAP works, he will keep ticking.
Who knew that they were actually a comedy act in disguise? I laughed all the way through it.
Sometimes humor can be a great cover for some deep seated resentments. And while they chose to "get along" professionally, because it benefited them both to do so, they did have their moments. Unfortunately Shatner seems to have collected a few more than Nimoy had.
@@spuwhoOne thing I have noticed is that the Shatner resentment only comes from his Star Trek castmates. I’ve never heard of anyone on TJ Hooker or Boston Legal complaining about Shatner. Hell, Shatner himself wrote in one of his books that he only learned about most of the cast hating him in 1993, when he interviewed almost all of the cast and crew of the original series (James Doohan kept rescheduling before ultimately canceling his interview, which didn’t surprise Shatner because both of them had hated each other since day one).
@@zacharylewis2802 Bill Shatner will admit that things on the TOS set were what he called "competitive". There were few high profile starring roles in the mid 1960's and so when someone got one, they tried to make the most of it. Nimoy shared the same and said their differences usually came down to how a scene would come down. By the time Shatner did TJ Hooker and Boston Legal, the pecking orders were pretty much set. It was already known who the stars were and who was going to get their way. Walter (Koenig) told Shatner that his competitiveness sometimes had consequences because it impacted other people roles or scenes in the production. These actors were getting scraps and they felt Shatner was stealing from the their near empty bowl to fill his nearly full one. Hence resentment. Shatner thought it was normal creative behavior, so did Nimoy. (but you heard no complaints from Dee (DeForest Kelley). He had done lots of movies before TOS and was a gentleman, he had no time to rustle like Nimoy and Shatner. He just wanted to go home and be with his wife. Kelley worked to live, Shatner and Nimoy lived to work. Shatner and Nimoy learned to get along because they figured out they could make a lot of money by doing so. So they did. It worked, they both became multi-millionaires. But Shatner owes Nimoy some special gratitude, it was Nimoy's lawyers who turned over a lot of new revenue stones through his lawsuits.
@@zacharylewis2802 Shatner clearly learned a lesson from hearing what the TOS folks thought of him. I can verify what you said about Boston Legal, as I worked with Shelley Berman long ago and when I caught up with him on the phone years later we both wound up gushing about our respective encounters with Shatner for a good while.
Yes, they are fantastic together! 👏🏻 Loved this so much.
Leonard Nimoy was a thoughtful, decent, good man.
Like Spock!
and drunk.
He loved Hobbits.
Shatner said he thought them not talking to each other toward the end of Nimoy's life was more about Nimoy not wanting Shatner to see him when he was dying. I prefer to think that too. They were such good friends so it's hard to imagine that it was because of a dispute over whether to add a conversation to a film. I'm sure that dispute was hardly their first over their many years of friendship. Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda would have serious knock you on your a** fights and then go back to building trains together because their friendship was a concrete thing that couldn't be destroyed by a little earthquake. Maybe it's true that Nimoy simply just wanted Shatner to remember them as they were.
To this day, I ask myself "What would Spock do?"- Michael McClary, Professor of Trumpet 🎺, Georgia Perimeter College and GSU ❤🎉😅
Fun times
Well said.We live in such a shallow world now.People fall out over nothing.
I saw Shatner and Nemoy doing photo ops at a Trek convention in Las Vegas. Nemoy was so warm and welcoming to every fan who posed with him. He shook hands, looked people in the eyes, gave hugs, made jokes… He was charming and friendly in every way. Shatner also did photo ops.
😂
That was exactly my experience at a convention with them in Chicago in 2005. It's one thing to be apathetic to fans when they approach you. It's another thing when you agree to attend a convention for that purpose, and individual fans are paying you large sums of money.
*Nimoy*
@@VivaToddVegas I could only imagine! Never was able to meet them. You can see in his eyes, his true soul I see. Not Spock, I see Lenard. Now he's with me spiritually. I have conversations with him! I truly don't feel I'm talking to my self. Or have a very convincing imagination. I truly feel his presence! In my heart ♥
@@trekkiejunk How much were the photo ops with Shatner and Nimoy....I did one with a bay watch chick for $5 bucks at a fair.
Two of THE most iconic actors in the sci-fi universe..Anything they did ( individual projects ) after Original Star Trek will NEVER surpass what they did together as Spock and Kirk..These two and the rest of the main characters of TOS are legends.. RIP Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, And Nichele Nichols..How we so miss you all.
They will live on in our ❤ and for all the history of broadcast TV. This show is legendary and taught us all subliminal life lessons. Mine was watching a team of varying personalities interacting together in a fully functional manner with no ego conflicts...I was so disappointed to realize life wasn't like Star Trek.
This interaction shows us that the magic was their chemistry not the writing, including DeForest Kelly
@@baritonebroker As I reach the end of my life…… Beam me up Scotty 😂😂
Sooooo true! 💯% 🖖🏽... Forever in our 💕 hearts!!!
Shatner's character, Denny Crane, in Boston Legal was brilliant. In the beginning, he made his character out as a Narcissistic oaf. By the end of the series, you realize it was an attempt to retain power and control of his firm and himself as Dementia creeped on him. But throughout, his better qualities shone through.
Leonard Nimoy learned to deal with Shatners ego. The rest of the cast didn’t. Leonard was the middle man peace keeper
DeForest Kelley was not vocal about Shatner's ego. He, unlike most of the other TOS cast lived a more "down to Earth" life and remained married to the same woman for his entire life. He wasn't as rich as Shatner and Nimoy, but unlike Shatner and Nimoy and all other TOS cast members has a Movie Icon on his star on the Hollywood Walk of fame as DeForest had been in lots of films prior to doing television.
I think it helped that Nimoy's character routinely got more attention than Shatner's, who was meant to be the star of the show. Nimoy always had that one-up over Shatner, made even worse by him getting the directors gig and outdoing Kirk on that field as well. Everyone knew it stung Shatner in a big way. I'm sure that made it a lot easier for Nimoy to tolerate the Shatner's ego.
@@fred36956You're right. Everyone says he was the kindest person on set.
From reading Shatner's book on Nimoy, they were great friends. It wasn't easy at the beginning but they had similar struggles and understood each other. I can respect that.
For 59 min and 41 seconds I wasn't the old man that I am now. Thank You Both for the journey backwards
Can anyone not see that these men are literally the living embodiment of their iconic characters? Amazing!
Leonard nimoy what a class act legend may he continue to rest in peace 🕊️
I wish he would come back as zombie Spock, personally.
@@emeriusjonesHe will come back as AI. Seriously.
Great watch, just loved the chemistry between these two, can't believe it'll be 8 years this year since Leonard passed :(
i can't believe shatner refused to go to his funeral
@@jasonvoorhees5640 He did not refuse. Please get your facts straight. He had a prior charity engagement. He sent his daughter on his behalf.
I was allowed to stay up late as a child >>> ONLY
@@jasonvoorhees5640Not going to a funeral, doesnt mean you didnt love that person.Dont judge.
This is absolutely genuine, charming, and hilarious ... I can't believe how captured I am by their candor. Their back and forth is just amazing. Thanks for sharing this!!
I grew up on Star Trek lore and the way I see it, it will continue for many generations to come. RIP to all of them. This television series was iconic.
Why does this not have more views? It is brilliant! It is funny! It is a wonderful snapshot in time of these two colleagues, coworkers, friends, contemporaries (weren't they born 4 days apart) -- at a fantastic moment when they were living legends in many ways but still doing wonderful work, and in their late 70s to boot. Love this -- thank you for posting -- let's get those views up!!!
Maybe if it had Shatner and Nimoy in the title, people would happen upon it more often?
stfu you mindless zombie drone... you are just a typical brainless mainstream media fed sheeple
I know Nemoy's gone but watching this makes me feel like he's still around and I can catch him at the next con (having never been to one).
didn't captain kirk refuse to go to nimoys funeral?
@@jasonvoorhees5640 I didn't know this, but apparently yes. Shatner at first claimed it was because he had obligations at Mar-A-Lago (which I think we can agree most people would understand you cancelling to attend a close friend's funeral), but then he recanted later and said it was because he was made known that he would be unwelcome. I am guessing it had something to do with him filming the documentary The Captains, which Nimoy refused to participate, but Nimoy was inclued anyway in an accidental footage. I haven't seen the footage.
It was over petty bullshit. These two were great men, but the egos involved make a situation complicated.
@@LH74
it was probably all nimoys fault tbh
I'm sorry you mixed those cons. I was lucky enough to see the whole cast in quite a few I went to in n.y. back in the 70s and 80s!
Two awesome actors from my childhood. Rock on guys…this has been really good. RIP Leonard Nemoy.❤
Yeah went by fast…. too fast….
Couple of old Jewish guys that know that they can get raw with each other because they know comedy is a rough sport.
*Nimoy
These guys had the best chemistry of any two people I’ve ever seen. Wish I had the chance to see them together.
Its know its been a few years but I am still so impressed by how much energy Bill Shatner has. He's starting to look younger than Patrick Stewart, who was "the next generation" lol.
And going up into space at 91 years :) True hero of mine.
Romulan Ale baby!
Stewart is in an advert for tea here in the UK and he looks about 10 years older than Shatner.
And a dash of Tribbles!
It so totally weird to see Patrick Soo old looking and Bill original Captain is still he could be the next captain of Enterprise again . And could have been on the new Star Trek Abraham movies as Bill William shatner guests starring with the younger version of Captain Kirk could be through the time travel 🧳 Warped Speed 20 , into 70 years backwards or forward depending on how the story line started.
William is still James T. Kirk, Leonard Nimoy will alway be known as Spock, bravo guys, and thank you for the years of excitement entertainment
William is also Denny Crain. I loved his character and how he plays off James Spader.
This is will be how I remember the 2 of them. A deep friendship, lots of laughs and a respect for each other that is palpable. Thank you for sharing this with us!
I never knew them personally but they have always been part of my family from the 60s to now. Never be another Leonard Nimoy. Love the cast of STO and TNG like my own family.
Same here …Star Trek is always in many conversations between me and my youngest brother
You can tell their love was like brothers! One day, you're both kicking each other's butts and the next defending your brother ❤
This is incredible. First time I've seen it. So great to see Leonard and Bill together in this setting. They obviously had a genuine and loving friendship. The way they bounced off each other here reminded me of the classic comedy duos of the past. Sadly Mr Nimoy is no longer with us...but he and all the other wonderful TOS cast who have gone will never be forgotten. And the ones remaining should be celebrated much more often than has been the case. And Bill and George really should make up before it's too late🙄
Ain't that the truth! I don't know what beef Bill has with George, but I really hate it
I had the same thought. I'd normally think they rehearsed this whole comedy routine back and forth, but it seems more like genuine friendly joking thanks to Shatner being Shatner and Nimoy being Nimoy.
I think Shatner is a bit irascible at times, but a family member of mine who's a huge Star Trek fan met him but didn't want to let on he was a fan so talked to him about horses, as he was nearby his ranch, pretending not to know who he was, and said he was very kind and friendly.
George Takei is consumed with jealousy because Star Trek wasn't all about his character.
@@WillCamxI don't fully understand the psychology but I can't help noticing that gay people seem to crave constant attention and become quite angry when it's denied.
@@John-wg6xw... correct 💯 and that in itself is the core of the issue...you exposed this "mystery" directly.
Leonard’s laugh, smile, sense of humor is so refreshing and wonderful to see in this. ❤
The chemistry between these two is off the charts!
These guys have a genuine live for each other. Only Nimoy could put up with Shatner
A real funny statement, as juxtaposed with their characters, only Kirk could put up with Spock.
He gave up before he passed away.
But Shatner did not attend Nimoy's funeral. I don't care what commitment Shatner had, when a so called "life long friend" dies, Shatner could have postponed his schedule which in real life was meaningless compared to honoring a "best friend" at his Funeral. I personally when not several funerals of colleagues and ex-colleagues funerals as they died way too young from heart attack, Colon Cancer, and ALS. I felt I owed it to their families.
@@fred36956 not everyone processes death the same way goofball
I love the profound statements throughout the laughter. Both really are genuine icons partly because of their acting, but I think moreso because of how genuine we can feel they are. They're wonderful to listen to and are both excellent role models, despite their modesty and humor about it. They made such an immediate and continuing impact that I think most could really see them as ambassadors for our planet, in every respect. Such amazing and fun people! Really enjoyed their conversation. I'm sure everyone here loves and appreciates them tremendously.
Thank you both and your families! And thank you so much to the people involved in bringing this footage here! ♥
Two great mates who have gotten closer as they’ve gotten older. Lovely to see this when all you heard in the media was negativity. Was happy to see Nimoy in the Star Trek reboot. RIP Spock.
My favorite part was when Nimoy went for Shatners hairpiece 😂
I think that was a Vulcan mind meld gesture. I don't think Nimoy would be ugly enough to go after anyone's vanity - certainly not in public and never in front of a man's fans. It's not in him.
@@jimwolaver9375 I don’t he actually would have…it was the thought, either on my part or his, that it was going to happen that made me smile
@@TimothyJonSarris Hey, as long as you were entertained, that was what they were trying to do!
@@jimwolaver9375 They never lost their ol’ chemistry
Love this. Thanks for posting.
Fantastic humour and the great reaction from the audience! This is the sign of a friendship and not an act😅
When I was a teenager in Manhattan, I was a Trekkie who worked at the then Statler Hilton Hotel between 31 and 32nd Street with one of my high school teachers and his family selling T-shirts and Star Trek memorabilia during one of the first Star Trek Conventions in the mid-70s. At the time, I saw both Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner up close and on stage which was awesome (both great guys and still hilarious). Also, I was in an elevator with George Takei (he was wearing a jogging suit at the time), he was very pleasant and we had a brief conversation. Unfortunately, I never got to personally meet Nichelle Nicols but got a chance to ask her questions when she was on stage. It was such a glorious time back then, and I do remember the early friendship between both Nimoy and Shatner. Leonard may you rest in peace and Bill "Live Long and Prosper" at 92! It was great seeing these two again in this video. Thanks for bringing me down memory lane!♥
I was there as well! I still have the program they gave out at the Statler Hilton. I have been a fan since 1966. Saw Shatner last year in Red Bank, N.J. and going to see him in Pompton Lakes, N.J. in September! Love these guys.
Huge credit to Eric L. Watts (the man with the beard), DragonCon’s TrekTrak coordinator at the time, for making happen what many thought wasn’t possible - Shatner and Nimoy together on stage at a con once again. It took a lot of effort and diplomacy to pull this off. One epic and miraculous hour for Trek fans!
were they enemies at the time or something?
@@jasonvoorhees5640 By then it had been several years since they had appeared together at a convention, due to various hard feelings that highly dynamic personalities who work closely too-often have.
They were at one more con in Vancouver after this DragonCon, then did not see each other again (almost five years) before Nimoy died in 2015.
What you see here is a brief period where our heroes were able to set private problems just enough to the side (tho obviously still mutually acknowledged) to give us some serious gold.
@@fslx
thanks for the info homie. do you have any idea what the specific problem was?
@@jasonvoorhees5640 Yah, but I'm having a good day today. LOL :) It's well-documented online, Google about.
Howard ignore him. He's spamming all the comments with hate
So glad I stumbled on this they are a great pair and Bill must really miss Leonard a lot. Never forgotten and always appreciated and, forever alive and young as long as we have dvd's to watch. Thanks for uploading.
Read your comment and I wonder why Bill hasnt mentioned him in every interview since as his best friend or something like it
@@markuss4133 I've seen Shatner in person and will be seeing him again in September. He does mention Nimoy and says he misses him.
@@cherylresnick-cortes8022 LUCKY YOU!!!! I wept when he tried to describe his experience in space. I weep for this planet whenever I see views travelling (via youtube) and the amazing creation God has made. Unfortunately, God has the answer to it all not men. Men destroy it through selfishness, greed and power lust. Please say hello from the UK.
I grew up with the original series. They made science cool :). RIP
Love how Leonard keeps interrupting Bill.
Find myself coming back to watch this when I need a laugh and smile every few months. Two great people and actors who will forever be cherished for the Kirk and Spock they brought to life.
Just found this. It is priceless! Thanks Vincent for sharing the experience for those of us who couldn’t be there. Made my day!
I saw them do this years ago when they first started doing it together in Boston. the DeForest Kelley raisin bagel story is hilarious
I think an Actor deserves residuals on every showing of their work (including syndication).
They do now. Their actor's union fixed that.
These two are so great together, watching them makes me feel young again, if you will pardon the phrase. Both will always be among my favorite people~
What a great video! Thanks for sharing. Shatner is hilarious. ❤️
Nimoy is missed.
That’s how you start a convention. “Why is George Takei so mad at you?”
I watched In Search Of every weekend. Loved the show.
No one sounds as real as these two.
Absolutely hilarious! Love seeing the chemistry.
A wonderful video thank you for sharing this wonderful opportunity to witness the warmth and humour of two Titans of the Star Trek universe !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't think i've ever laughed this hard at a panel🤣
You will never know how much that cheered me up, thank you
They are brilliant and lovely :)
Thank you for posting this
This is the best comedy duo since Abbott and Costello with the Who's on First sketch. You can definitely tell Shatner and Nimoy are best friends here. Incredibly wholesome. I honestly picture myself and my best friend exactly like this when we're this age
Forget Klingons, Romulans and any all-powerful beings from TOS. YIELD TO THE BEARD! This was a delightful video. Shatner and Nimoy were like an old married couple who knew exactly where the other was going - their banter was improvised, intelligent and full of respect.
Ridiculous that someone thought these men needed Nameplates🤣
Wow! These two were hilarious together!! Never knew!!
This is priceless. Thank you. I'd never seen them together like this...so funny
William Shatner was, I think, devastated when Nimoy stopped communicating with him toward the end of his life. I don't know what happened, but it's possible that Shatner's old friend didn't want to be seen in such a frail and vulnerable state as Nimoy's health deteriorated. Some people get like that. They would rather you remembered them as strong and vital, even though I believe it's better to have one last good hug or handshake to see each other off no matter the circumstances. I would like to think that Nimoy, in his heart, still cared about Shatner until the end.
It was about business
The falling out was a result of Shatner's 2011 Star Trek documentary called "The Captains". Nimoy was asked to appear in it and he declined. Nimoy was secretly filmed at a Star Trek convention, and that footage was included in the documentary. Shatner claimed ignorance about it, and attempted to put the blame on the filming company/editors. Nimoy called B.S. on it... how does the Directory/Writer/Co-Producer (Shatner) not know what is in his final product?
I recently watched The Captains and I didn't see any footage of Leonard Nimoy in it. Is it possible I saw a re-edited version?
@@kennethwofford4489 there was some brief comic con 2012 footage. Nimoy can briefly be seen then
Fantastic to see these two laughing together , you can till they are still great friends. thanks for this clip.
This is amazing! I hope I have a relationship like this of 40 years plus with one of my Buds. RIP Spock
They are so QUICK! .... smart, intelligent, witty ... great great friendship, cooperation, ending each others lines. Great vid. TNX
This is just the best! 😂 I never knew how hilarious they were together until seeing this! I just love them. 😊 Miss Leonard…
This was great. It was like watching a good comedy. They really compliment each other up there. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you sooooo much for this! I had wanted to see them at 45th the Star Trek convention but never got to. 🖖💕🥂
Thanks for sharing this! WHAT a riot of laughter! THEY HAD SO MUCH FUN! Shows you how long-time dear friends of each other they were. What comradery! Hahaha!😆
this was so enjoyable and fun to watch, I don't know how many times I laughed but omg I loved it.
Two of the best team actors that ever will be
Shatner is such a smartass. The way he made fun of the first questioners accent and the way Nimoy defended him and the people of Atlanta was really heartwarming.
Yes, Shatner is less sensitive but that doesn't make him a bad person. We all have our weaknesses, myself included. Kirk reflected Shatner's vanity and fears recorded over 89 episodes (or however many there were) forever, seen all over the world, and Shatner went along with it and admits to it. If he were a hypocrite about it then it might be an issue.
Loved seeing them both spontaneous and vibrant in this panel.
Back in the early 70s when I was 9 years old watching reruns of Star Trek Captain Kirk was my hero.
Love the entire dialogue.
Wow..this is fantastic. So freaking hilarious. LOL!
If you need that picture, at the center of the table, you may be at the wrong convention.
I don’t remember seeing this episode of The Odd Couple! 🤣
ok I do not know WHY this came on my feed but I am forever thankful to the algorithm fairies/goblins/spies that this did… thank you to the original uploader of this video & thank you to the one who fixed the audio! #KirkAndSpock #BillShatner #LeonardNimoy
Just an amazing conversation between two good friends who are both so funny and self-effacing.
It's like an Abbott and Costello vaudeville act. So nice to watch this one-on-one act.
We lost Leonard too soon.
This is a treasure! Thank you.
Fantastic to see them together in real life. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you
I went to one convention in in the late ‘80s and it was amazing. But I got tired and left before DeForest Kelley spoke. Saw him, didn’t get to hear him. Regrets. Yeah, a few. 😮
Thank you for fixing it in Power director!
Thnx for posting the year and thnx for UPLOADING THIS!!!!🖖
Fascinating. I couldn't stop watching this. From beginning to end, it was so enjoyable to see these two like this. Fantastically fascinating. Thank you for sharing this gem.
Thank you for posting this. I thoroughly enjoyed ❤😊
Wonderful rapport. It's so sad that they had a falling out later that was never resolved before Nimoy's death.
Got to meet Jim Doohan in person. Nice down to Earth guy. RIP Cast.
01:44 Kirk was there for a glimpse
They're just too great!! My cheeks are hurting coz I'm smiling so hard.
This is an extremely epic banter. Two class acts.
Who doesn’t just love this? 😂. Would’ve been totally hilarious when Shatner said, “Did you just call me a d***head?”
Imagine if Nimoy replied with “The hell I did.” 😂😂😂
Absolute legends. Time is the fire in which we burn. LLAP
Simply... INCREDIBLE! Wowww... many persons still live with them! So sincere W. Shatner so patient L. Nimoy. So exceptional series and pictures... Even with new actors.Thks so much.
Mad respect for Leonard Nimoy. Most actors hate being associated with just one character that they played but Nimoy WAS Spock. He didn't, as far as I am aware, try to live it down.
His first autobiography was titled "I Am Not Spock". Couple decades later he came back with "Okay, I Guess I Am Spock After All, Come To Think Of It".
A master class in repartee. ❤
This is like watching Abbott and Costello. 😂🤣
Anderal , William not going to Leonards funeral was telling
Thank you, an hour well spent ..Laughing and enjoying.
I would love for someone to have asked them about Galaxy Quest.
Thanks for posting , enjoyed it
Thanks for the upload really enjoyed it
I saw William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy at a Star Trek convention almost 20 years ago. I got a photo op with Shatner too. I have also met Walter Koenig, Nichelle Nichols and of course George Takei at several different Comic Cons and gotten their autographs.
It's a real shame these two fell out. Its an even bigger shame that they didn't sort things before Leonard died.
That;s what this is
99% of their relationship's entire existence is brothers, the last 1% was the fallout and means nothing. Yeah it's a bad last moment to have, to be sure, but it's mathematically insignificant to their whole lives together. Rest in Peace Mr. Nimoy.
It's also a shame that people post negative gossip about things they know little to nothing about. Esp after people are dead and gone.
They made ✌️ peace.