Full size HDMI... 300g weight... SDI ports... Black Magic Codecs.... this camera is the best thing that has happened in quite a while... i know on TH-cam everyone is on a Sony trip for some reason... but a hand full of BM Micro Studio and you can produce pretty much any show! This is absolutely a game changer!! Especially at a price point of around 1000€
Nice camera for a tripod in a studio, for anything else which is 95% of all productions, it's unusable zero ergonomics cube. Oh, I forgot, new age kids glue their cameras to a gimbal and 18-35 :) :)
@@SoundOfYourDestiny DP is on all professional or "broadcast" cameras, black magic and the majority of cameras within reach of a youtuber are consumer or "pro-sumer" and they will have HDMI, a camera with a display port will cost thousands of dollars, like 5 figures.
Jesus. You could have done a splitscreen between the two images at 4:35 and I would have had absolutely ZERO idea that they were taken on different cameras. That sensor color consistency is incredible.
BMD does a lot of things right. The connection options on this thing are what everyone should expect from a modern camera. A proper DC power input, SDI, and FULL-SIZED HDMI (mocking you here, Canon) are nice to see. I think the big miss here is the lack of genlock. This thing would be great for a 3-D setup, but that's a no-go without genlock.
Thank you very much for that great first deep dive! My biggest issue is the lack of the crop sensor mode (1080 workflow) that would DOUBLE the MFT focal length without any drawback!! I really hope Blackmagic listens and makes it available for the micro studio G2 and the studio G2 as well, that really lack it A LOT! To all you out there: let’s make some noise!!!
@@neonvoid the URSA and the BMPCC have the crop sensor mode that is missing on the Studio and Micro Studio cameras. It enables the camera to read only the middle part of the sensor, effectively doubling the focal length. In a typical live stream the output of the live stream is 1080p anyway (Atem Minis and constellation HD do not even have the ability to go beyond 1080, as many other mixers as well). The BMD "Studio" cameras can only read the full sensor and then convert the signal from 4k to 1080 at the moment. In crop sensor/"window mode"(called in the URSA menu) the middle part of the sensor (1080 width) gets read out and that is directly the output signal. This may not be a perfectly accurate technical description of what is happening, but it is in principle exactly that. BMD "Studio" cameras are mainly used for their output signal to the video mixer, it seems therefore totally strange that those BMD "Studio" cameras miss that ability the pockets and the URSA have. Also, and that is in many cases the deal breaker for not having MFT mount cameras, there are not many if any good and more or less affordable MFT tele zoom lenses under F4. And yes, they are not parafocal anyway but in many cases zooming while being live is not crucial. It is fare more important to have a beautiful picture. Sorry for the long explanation but I wanted to have a complete answer. I would really like Blackmagic to make a software update to fix this issue, I am sure that would make a big difference for many and it is "just" a little software option. Please Blackmagic, I am begging you! Hope that somebody from Blackmagic is reading this 🤞🤞🤞
The long version.. since Blackmagic already has the functionality to crop the sensor for a 1080 output on the URSA and BMPCC cameras, I guess it would not be a big thing to implement it on the studio cameras. The ATEM Minis and the Constellation HD series of BMD video mixers have 1080 as a maximum input and output anyway. In the 1080 workflow the cheaper mixers and the cheaper BMD Studio cameras are therefore a very good match. Next step in quality would be the URSAs and maybe the Production Studio or Broadcast Studio mixers if you want to stay all in BMD - but we are talking about MUCH more money. As a reminder - we are also talking about the "Micro STUDIO" and also the normal "STUDIO" cameras that do not have the sensor crop functionality, even though they are mainly used for their output signal in the STUDIO. There would be no real drawback to "reduce" the capability of the BDM Studio cameras with the sensor crop ("Window Crop") mode where the camera is outputting the middle of the sensor (1080 width) instead of rendering down the full 4K sensor to 1080 exept the benefits. Anyway the sensors of those cameras are very nice even for TV broadcasting! The main issue with those systems are the available lenses - there are no good options for tele zoom lenses under F4 for MFT mounts. The "trick" of the sensor mode doubles the "range"/focal lenght and maximizes the ability of the lenses. So please Blackmagic consider to implement the sensor crop mode of all of the Studio cameras, PLEASE!!
@@Matija___ i had a bmcc6k full frame for a short time, and i had the exact opposite problem, it can do only 1:1 crops, the HD crop on the 6K sensor is basically full tunnel vision - it CANNOT do full sensor width in 16:9 at all, only on obscure ratios (17:9 is the closest) - but you can't avoid black bars, since the HDMI output is 1080p60 ONLY. its ridiculous.
I'm impressed. I love the updated micro camera but the lack of affordable gimbals with a multi gimbal controller have left me frustrated. Well done identifying a hole in the market and filling it.
Thank you for this video, I really loved how much detail you went into. And good to see that you are so forward advanced with your Middle control and APC-R! Congratulations!
I really don't understand why you need Bluetooth for this camera? You have an Ethernet is not enough for a studio camera? If you need a camera for point and shoot this is not the right camera.
@@blender_wiki I'm looking at this as a camera I would use in the field, outdoors, and potentially a few of them at a time. With only one or two operators.
I own 3 BGH1 .. I can add this G2 for fun to the setup .. but alot missing in a way even I love the size of G2 .. but even the BGH1 tinny bigger .. but got everything you need in a cine camera with full size ports .. full app contorls .. and way alot more .. but its interesting how to make up your mind after all we have .. I think we reach we have the best out there as we maximize all cameras .. now its just twists here and there only.
I dreamed of using this camera as a mini Box-Style camera for documentary, but without bluetooth, i guess that dream is dead. BMD, give us a BOX CAMERA!
how many experienced individuals use the native headphone jack instead of the dedicated interface that's recording? I wouldn't trust a preamp in any cinema camera. Especially, if its using the same power source as the main circuit. I think any experience audio engineer knows better even if its just for reference @@scottr3299
I was going to purchase some of these. Lack of bluetooth / app support is a deal breaker. One of the reasons to purchase this form factor is for positioning the camera in out of the way places. Control via bluetooth app is perfect - without, not so much.
It is pretty unfortunate. However, you CAN run a long USB cable. Not ideal... but possible. Also.... BMD has implemented control over SDI on some cameras, so I wonder if that's present here.
When this novice purchased a Pocket 4k I was surprised by it's size. I was also surprised by how different filming with a cinema camera is compared to the consumer camera, with all the auto settings, that I learned on. While I've gone back to filming mostly with my Canon since most of what I film is on the fly and can't be planned out, I would likely use a Blackmagic more often if I had one of these small cameras.
I have just got this camera and it is very good apart from the auto exposure which consistently under exposes by around 2 stops. I have tried it with two lenses - Panasonic Leica 15mm 1.7 and Olympus 12-40 2.8 and it under exposes the same with both of them. Has anyone else had this problem? Setting the aperture manually through the menu is a real pain.
Great overview! I’m also very impressed with the camera-though I lean more towards the cinema/commercial work side of things. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Could you make a video comparing this camera and the micro cinema camera? What are the benefits and drawbacks for live production? Thank you for your in depth reviews!
If you do only studio work/ gaming this is the thing. My little Lica lens can take auto focus commands from the Atem software. Camera and lens $1300 US. No more overheats, battery swapping, done. selling my old setup on ebay today.
thank you for this detailed review i have been using the hd and 4k previous versions for many tv shows, they work great!!! could you recomand a usbc disk on key that would work fast enough for this camera in order to avoid a ussb c cable and hard drive... thanks again :-)
How are you powering the gimbal? The only solutions I can find online use batteries, and obviously nobody wants to do that during long live stream sessions.
So, I can answer this since I use 4 of these ptz setups. We use a dual DTap ac wall plug with a ronin tilta base mount. One power’s camera, the other the gimbal.
@@timothy4262 Cool, thank you - I'll try to find a good one. I noticed the Smallrig version of the baseplate actually has passthrough power (Middle Things has videos with both Tilta and Smallrig versions), so that might be a good solution for the camera once the baseplate itself has power. I appreciate you taking the time to reply! :)
I prefer BRAW over ProRes but the other points would be a welcome improvement. Please come out with more videos showing how you hook up the camera to these systems.
Hopefully BM has fastened the USB-C port better than they did with the Pocket 4K. Mine was just lying in its bag and the port fell into the camera. Now I cannot use my T5 drives anymore, so I bought a cFAST card. I am just using it for personal productions at this point, so will do fine. Because firmware upgrades can only be done via the same port, I am now stuck with cDNG and no BRAW or gyro stabilization. Which I also can live with. I think real RAW is the best. So glad it fell into the house with my most favorite firmware installed. :) A repair done by BM that costs about $600 is out of the question for me at this point in time... They would swap the motherboard for a new one, removing the possibility of real cDNG RAW recording (only possible with the first version of the camera), which is the main reason I got the cam in the first place. BRAW is good, but not *as* good quality-wise. So, no. I will stay stuck with this good configuration.
So If I'm getting a clean feed from the SDI, then why can't I just use an external recorded (Atmos Ninja Ultra) and record through that, instead of recording to an SSD?
Great review! Thank you! Have you tested any input devices for the APC-R that offer a force mobile type experience? Perhaps one of the devices being used for AR video applications?
re the lack of bluetooth - I've found in studio environments, which this camera is for, with other things sharing the spectrum, and inconvenient things like walls and even metal house framing causes range issues and even actual interference. Not trying to justify BM's omission of it, and I'm a bit cranky about no alternative being included (as well as a lack of Ethernet and internal recording, but also understandable for what it is - a cheap, usable and 'it just works' studio bound broadcast camera. If they make a cine version of it I hope it will include all those things, as well as better power options. I appreciate third party manufacturers like 8Sin and Smallrig will descend on this (or a hypothetical cine version) with all the cages and adaptors you could ever want, but it's always nice to have it right straight out of the box.
@@mrshaheedmalik Yep. That, admittedly, is how I use my Cine gear - with external drives. I just find it easier, and also cheaper with the cost of decent sized SSDs versus CFast or even SD UHS-II. But in a highly compact application, like a drone, it would be fab to have an internally mounted storage medium for balance and connection integrity too.
toujours des videos aussi léchées chez Midle Things ! et comme d'habitude un vrai plaisir de la regarder 👍 cette caméra me faisait aussi de l'oeil depuis son annonce. J'attendais qu'elle soit dispo et c'est maintenant le cas ! parfait pour compléter mon livestream. Je la destine aussi en utilisation remote sur un gimbal, mais aussi en caméra gros plan : son capteur micro 4/3 privilégie et "resserre" mes longues focales plein format. Et Tout ça sans convertisseur HDMI/SDI, pour une fois !
Great video! Thanks for the info. I have a question - is there any way to use the Lidar function on the DJI gimbals to do eye/face continual autofocus? I saw in the video it can do ActiveTrack to move the gimbal in relation to the user, but will that adjust the focus too?
The tracking with the Lidar RS on the DJI Ronin RS3 Pro actually works a lot better and more reliable. Mostly because it has it's own wide angle camera opposed to using the HDMI port.
The lack of continuous AF on BM cams really limits the usefulness of this system. Since BM doesn't have continuous AF, you'll need to add LIDAR controlling a focus motor, which means you can't use the focus motor for zoom, which means if you also want zoom, you'll need a power zoom lens compatible with this setup. Sony makes great PZ lenses, but it's unclear to what extent this whole system is compatible with the Sony ecosystem, it seems mostly designed for BM. As such, you're limited to only a few native MFT PZ lens options. Most are cheaper, not the greatest image quality. Panasonic makes several MFT PZ lenses that are maybe acceptable (???) depending on your standards. Also, there are no MFT PZ lenses with constant aperture, meaning brightness will change throughout the zoom range. And none very fast (especially considering MFT sensor). He mentions the Olympus ED 12-100 constant f4, but that is NOT a Power Zoom lens, so you're back at square one, using the focus motor for zoom, and missing out on focus....which wouldn't be a problem with literally ANY other camera system that had either C-AF or better Power Zoom lens choices. If it was possible to use this whole Middle Things / DJI gimbal PTZ setup with Sony cameras, (or any camera system that supports C-AF), it'd be much better! Not only does Sony make some great PZ lenses, they also have AMAZING C-AF, meaning you wouldn't necessarily even need PZ lenses because you could use the native C-AF for focus, which would free up the focus motor to be used for Zoom on ANY Sony lens. No need for a finicky lidar setup, and you have WAY more and WAY better lens choices. Perhaps better, you'd have the ability to use FASTER lenses, with constant aperture, on larger sensors, up to full frame, meaning faster speeds than an equivalent MFT value (about 2 stops more DOF). Not to mention some of the cool Sony features like clear image zoom, which gives you 1.5-2x the zoom range (with some caveats, look it up). In short, I love this system, and everything Middle Things is doing here, but it's really too bad it seems (???) to be limited mainly to BM, which means no C-AF without clunky LIDAR, limited PZ lenses of pretty low quality, no PZ options with constant aperture, and if you choose non-PZ lenses you either give up focus, or zoom. PS: The Canon power zoom adapter won't work with this system, so EF lenses are out. And the new Canon 24-105 f2.8 constant PZ lens is for RF mount, so no go there either. Really, AFAIK, if you want the full PTZ with C-AF, you're stuck with pretty limited MFT choices and nothing with constant aperture.
Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday so great timing! What is the difference in latency between HDMI and 12G SDI? I have wanted a digital crop punch in on the ATEM for quite some time for 1080 punch ins on the 4k sensor. Thank you for all you do.
Great review! Camera looks great but please change your table to something more stable. It's disturbing when gimbal shakes all the time and taking attention from you ;)
Thanks for the video! Can you control the camera setting and start/stop through a Blackmagic Video Assist monitor? I'm trying to figure out how to use it handheld on a gimbal without menu diving and button clicking on the camera every time a setting needs to be changed.
Love the from factor, would have been a perfect size for more content creators (I'm more in that market than pro users but love BM product) with a bluetooth/wifi and prores addition it could have closed a huge gap and challenged sony as the defacto content dslr.
I saw the price and it was not bad! I thought it would be scary expensive but no. I might buy it for my bell recordings with a good mic. Thanks for the review!
DJI told me this camera sin't compatible with DJI gimbal, notably RS3, can you confirm which DJI gimbals its compatible with? I really need active tracking and zoom control
No Bluetooth, what about time code? My biggest issue would be low light. The older model was horrible. Im hoping to see some real world low light performance. I akso wish it had built in SRT or NDI seing that it supports an ethernet port via usb. Im excited. Going to give BMD another try now.
It will be so cool if we just add a slider to the mix and just control everything from a table top. Even for fiction. At factories or corporate shoots.
how is th fan noise? the Gen1 had a lot of noise after some hours the fan kicks in and it makes a lot of noise for a quiet needed studio (yes we have had a bunch of them and all had the same issue)
Looking at the legs of the tripod in early the video, it appears the camera is about a half inch away from falling of of the desk. And his elbow is right next to the leg.
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Full size HDMI... 300g weight... SDI ports... Black Magic Codecs.... this camera is the best thing that has happened in quite a while... i know on TH-cam everyone is on a Sony trip for some reason... but a hand full of BM Micro Studio and you can produce pretty much any show! This is absolutely a game changer!! Especially at a price point of around 1000€
DP is far superior to consumer based HDMI.
Nice camera for a tripod in a studio, for anything else which is 95% of all productions, it's unusable zero ergonomics cube. Oh, I forgot, new age kids glue their cameras to a gimbal and 18-35 :) :)
@@krane15 Yes, but I've never seen it on a camera. Have you?
everyone, fromm my experience is on an "iphone 13" trip, anybody with over 250k subs use blackmagic cinema cameras
@@SoundOfYourDestiny DP is on all professional or "broadcast" cameras, black magic and the majority of cameras within reach of a youtuber are consumer or "pro-sumer" and they will have HDMI, a camera with a display port will cost thousands of dollars, like 5 figures.
This is perfect!!!! I just got mine yesterday and I’ve been trying to stay updated with you guys on new products and boom!! This vid dropped!!
Jesus. You could have done a splitscreen between the two images at 4:35 and I would have had absolutely ZERO idea that they were taken on different cameras. That sensor color consistency is incredible.
BMD does a lot of things right. The connection options on this thing are what everyone should expect from a modern camera. A proper DC power input, SDI, and FULL-SIZED HDMI (mocking you here, Canon) are nice to see. I think the big miss here is the lack of genlock. This thing would be great for a 3-D setup, but that's a no-go without genlock.
It effectively has genlock if a SDI reference signal is connected to the REF IN port.
@@kersplody7435 It has one? Didn't see that. Cool if so.
Thank you very much for that great first deep dive!
My biggest issue is the lack of the crop sensor mode (1080 workflow) that would DOUBLE the MFT focal length without any drawback!! I really hope Blackmagic listens and makes it available for the micro studio G2 and the studio G2 as well, that really lack it A LOT!
To all you out there: let’s make some noise!!!
how do you mean lack of crop sensor mode? you want a 1:1 readout instead of using the full sensor width?
@@neonvoid the URSA and the BMPCC have the crop sensor mode that is missing on the Studio and Micro Studio cameras. It enables the camera to read only the middle part of the sensor, effectively doubling the focal length. In a typical live stream the output of the live stream is 1080p anyway (Atem Minis and constellation HD do not even have the ability to go beyond 1080, as many other mixers as well). The BMD "Studio" cameras can only read the full sensor and then convert the signal from 4k to 1080 at the moment. In crop sensor/"window mode"(called in the URSA menu) the middle part of the sensor (1080 width) gets read out and that is directly the output signal. This may not be a perfectly accurate technical description of what is happening, but it is in principle exactly that. BMD "Studio" cameras are mainly used for their output signal to the video mixer, it seems therefore totally strange that those BMD "Studio" cameras miss that ability the pockets and the URSA have. Also, and that is in many cases the deal breaker for not having MFT mount cameras, there are not many if any good and more or less affordable MFT tele zoom lenses under F4. And yes, they are not parafocal anyway but in many cases zooming while being live is not crucial. It is fare more important to have a beautiful picture. Sorry for the long explanation but I wanted to have a complete answer. I would really like Blackmagic to make a software update to fix this issue, I am sure that would make a big difference for many and it is "just" a little software option. Please Blackmagic, I am begging you! Hope that somebody from Blackmagic is reading this 🤞🤞🤞
@@neonvoid in short, yes! 😁
The long version.. since Blackmagic already has the functionality to crop the sensor for a 1080 output on the URSA and BMPCC cameras, I guess it would not be a big thing to implement it on the studio cameras. The ATEM Minis and the Constellation HD series of BMD video mixers have 1080 as a maximum input and output anyway. In the 1080 workflow the cheaper mixers and the cheaper BMD Studio cameras are therefore a very good match. Next step in quality would be the URSAs and maybe the Production Studio or Broadcast Studio mixers if you want to stay all in BMD - but we are talking about MUCH more money. As a reminder - we are also talking about the "Micro STUDIO" and also the normal "STUDIO" cameras that do not have the sensor crop functionality, even though they are mainly used for their output signal in the STUDIO. There would be no real drawback to "reduce" the capability of the BDM Studio cameras with the sensor crop ("Window Crop") mode where the camera is outputting the middle of the sensor (1080 width) instead of rendering down the full 4K sensor to 1080 exept the benefits. Anyway the sensors of those cameras are very nice even for TV broadcasting! The main issue with those systems are the available lenses - there are no good options for tele zoom lenses under F4 for MFT mounts. The "trick" of the sensor mode doubles the "range"/focal lenght and maximizes the ability of the lenses. So please Blackmagic consider to implement the sensor crop mode of all of the Studio cameras, PLEASE!!
@@Matija___ i had a bmcc6k full frame for a short time, and i had the exact opposite problem, it can do only 1:1 crops, the HD crop on the 6K sensor is basically full tunnel vision - it CANNOT do full sensor width in 16:9 at all, only on obscure ratios (17:9 is the closest) - but you can't avoid black bars, since the HDMI output is 1080p60 ONLY. its ridiculous.
I'm impressed. I love the updated micro camera but the lack of affordable gimbals with a multi gimbal controller have left me frustrated. Well done identifying a hole in the market and filling it.
Thank you for this video, I really loved how much detail you went into. And good to see that you are so forward advanced with your Middle control and APC-R! Congratulations!
Thanks Peter !
This absolutely needs a Bluetooth connection for setting control.
Yeah I was straight up confused over the lack of it. You could make a DIY arduino control system via SDI, but it would be way too large
@@xWood4000 For FPV the DJI Transmission system still makes so much sense.
They dropped the ball with the Lack of blueletooth
I really don't understand why you need Bluetooth for this camera? You have an Ethernet is not enough for a studio camera?
If you need a camera for point and shoot this is not the right camera.
@@blender_wiki I'm looking at this as a camera I would use in the field, outdoors, and potentially a few of them at a time. With only one or two operators.
I own 3 BGH1 .. I can add this G2 for fun to the setup .. but alot missing in a way even I love the size of G2 .. but even the BGH1 tinny bigger .. but got everything you need in a cine camera with full size ports .. full app contorls .. and way alot more .. but its interesting how to make up your mind after all we have .. I think we reach we have the best out there as we maximize all cameras .. now its just twists here and there only.
Really interesting build. I think this would work well with FPV drones
For sure !
Already done!
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I dreamed of using this camera as a mini Box-Style camera for documentary, but without bluetooth, i guess that dream is dead. BMD, give us a BOX CAMERA!
I have this camera. Lack of Bluetooth isn't a deal breaker.
You cant satisfy an unappreciative and entitled individual. Their dream is killed because of something petty lol. @@mrshaheedmalik
But lack of a headphone jack is rough
how many experienced individuals use the native headphone jack instead of the dedicated interface that's recording? I wouldn't trust a preamp in any cinema camera. Especially, if its using the same power source as the main circuit. I think any experience audio engineer knows better even if its just for reference @@scottr3299
did the gimbal fall off the table? living on edge!
I was going to purchase some of these. Lack of bluetooth / app support is a deal breaker. One of the reasons to purchase this form factor is for positioning the camera in out of the way places. Control via bluetooth app is perfect - without, not so much.
It is pretty unfortunate. However, you CAN run a long USB cable. Not ideal... but possible. Also.... BMD has implemented control over SDI on some cameras, so I wonder if that's present here.
I love everything from BMD. Even the software.
Excellent overview!
When this novice purchased a Pocket 4k I was surprised by it's size. I was also surprised by how different filming with a cinema camera is compared to the consumer camera, with all the auto settings, that I learned on. While I've gone back to filming mostly with my Canon since most of what I film is on the fly and can't be planned out, I would likely use a Blackmagic more often if I had one of these small cameras.
Holy shit that looks like the perfect drone camera
The pro-cinema FPV drone guys are going to drool over this thing. I can't wait to see what the likes of the team at Lightcraft do with this camera!
I have just got this camera and it is very good apart from the auto exposure which consistently under exposes by around 2 stops. I have tried it with two lenses - Panasonic Leica 15mm 1.7 and Olympus 12-40 2.8 and it under exposes the same with both of them. Has anyone else had this problem? Setting the aperture manually through the menu is a real pain.
Great overview! I’m also very impressed with the camera-though I lean more towards the cinema/commercial work side of things. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
Could you make a video comparing this camera and the micro cinema camera? What are the benefits and drawbacks for live production?
Thank you for your in depth reviews!
internal recording is a good thing when you are our and about .. this one does not have any internal recording
@@SimplicityForGood yes that’s a big difference .. are there any other notable differences?
If you do only studio work/ gaming this is the thing. My little Lica lens can take auto focus commands from the Atem software. Camera and lens $1300 US. No more overheats, battery swapping, done. selling my old setup on ebay today.
Blackmagic box camera which noone noticed :)) Great video thank you very much for the info
What was the music track you used at 0:15?
it's on order now
you started off with something compact and minimal and at the end it looks like something right out of techwars.. :)
thank you for this detailed review
i have been using the hd and 4k previous versions for many tv shows, they work great!!!
could you recomand a usbc disk on key that would work fast enough for this camera
in order to avoid a ussb c cable and hard drive...
thanks again :-)
thanks for putting this vid together! there is surprisingly not a lot of info/in-depth details about it 👍
How are you powering the gimbal? The only solutions I can find online use batteries, and obviously nobody wants to do that during long live stream sessions.
So, I can answer this since I use 4 of these ptz setups. We use a dual DTap ac wall plug with a ronin tilta base mount. One power’s camera, the other the gimbal.
@@timothy4262 Cool, thank you - I'll try to find a good one. I noticed the Smallrig version of the baseplate actually has passthrough power (Middle Things has videos with both Tilta and Smallrig versions), so that might be a good solution for the camera once the baseplate itself has power. I appreciate you taking the time to reply! :)
Something we've been asking for years now, i do wish they made a more comprehensive solution still though
Do you think this camera can be use to make a feature film ?
Cool that you have released the middle control software under the MIT license, thanks for doing it
Awesome video! You guys create tools that nobody is building.
The camera sitting on the gimbal on the very edge of a wobbling desk made me too anxious to enjoy
Perfect for FPV, thanks!
Fantastic video! Thanks for sharing 😊
If there is a super 35 version, I am in for it.
Two questions: 1) what is the base ISO? Does it have dual base iso like the pocket 4K? 2) can you record into a SSD via the type-c port?
Now that Logitech just released their Mevo Core, the G2 makes so much more sense.
I prefer BRAW over ProRes but the other points would be a welcome improvement. Please come out with more videos showing how you hook up the camera to these systems.
Just a heads up, the best controls come from using the Blackmagic Video assist screens, next to ATEM camera control.
Can you do a video with you putting together this whole rig?
Thank you for the wonderful video. This was helpful!
Hello, great video. Can I use the usb-c to power supply the camera?
Hopefully BM has fastened the USB-C port better than they did with the Pocket 4K. Mine was just lying in its bag and the port fell into the camera. Now I cannot use my T5 drives anymore, so I bought a cFAST card. I am just using it for personal productions at this point, so will do fine. Because firmware upgrades can only be done via the same port, I am now stuck with cDNG and no BRAW or gyro stabilization. Which I also can live with. I think real RAW is the best. So glad it fell into the house with my most favorite firmware installed. :) A repair done by BM that costs about $600 is out of the question for me at this point in time... They would swap the motherboard for a new one, removing the possibility of real cDNG RAW recording (only possible with the first version of the camera), which is the main reason I got the cam in the first place. BRAW is good, but not *as* good quality-wise. So, no. I will stay stuck with this good configuration.
So If I'm getting a clean feed from the SDI, then why can't I just use an external recorded (Atmos Ninja Ultra) and record through that, instead of recording to an SSD?
Great review! Thank you! Have you tested any input devices for the APC-R that offer a force mobile type experience? Perhaps one of the devices being used for AR video applications?
Excellent overview guys!
This is the perfect camera
Thank you for the in-depth review! And great film style for this video!
Great production style for this video. It's a video camera, it does not film. :-)
What are the SDI cables you are using? Just received mine and was surprised no one mentioned the SDI ports are micro SDI
Can be seen the video remotely on iPhone app or via bluetooth?
Dude these accessories are insane! How long has the company been around?
will this 12G-SDI port work within Unreal 5 as live recording in real time? and keep the good recording and timings
This reminds me of the Sony ILCE-QX1 that was released last September 2014.
I might have missed but how did you get the camera feed on the phone wirelessly? Which gimbal is it please. Thank you.
re the lack of bluetooth - I've found in studio environments, which this camera is for, with other things sharing the spectrum, and inconvenient things like walls and even metal house framing causes range issues and even actual interference.
Not trying to justify BM's omission of it, and I'm a bit cranky about no alternative being included (as well as a lack of Ethernet and internal recording, but also understandable for what it is - a cheap, usable and 'it just works' studio bound broadcast camera.
If they make a cine version of it I hope it will include all those things, as well as better power options. I appreciate third party manufacturers like 8Sin and Smallrig will descend on this (or a hypothetical cine version) with all the cages and adaptors you could ever want, but it's always nice to have it right straight out of the box.
You can hook a mini drive to the USB-C port. I saw a FPV drone pilot with this option. The video is on TH-cam.
@@mrshaheedmalik Yep. That, admittedly, is how I use my Cine gear - with external drives. I just find it easier, and also cheaper with the cost of decent sized SSDs versus CFast or even SD UHS-II.
But in a highly compact application, like a drone, it would be fab to have an internally mounted storage medium for balance and connection integrity too.
toujours des videos aussi léchées chez Midle Things ! et comme d'habitude un vrai plaisir de la regarder 👍
cette caméra me faisait aussi de l'oeil depuis son annonce. J'attendais qu'elle soit dispo et c'est maintenant le cas ! parfait pour compléter mon livestream. Je la destine aussi en utilisation remote sur un gimbal, mais aussi en caméra gros plan : son capteur micro 4/3 privilégie et "resserre" mes longues focales plein format. Et Tout ça sans convertisseur HDMI/SDI, pour une fois !
Great video! Thanks for the info. I have a question - is there any way to use the Lidar function on the DJI gimbals to do eye/face continual autofocus? I saw in the video it can do ActiveTrack to move the gimbal in relation to the user, but will that adjust the focus too?
The tracking with the Lidar RS on the DJI Ronin RS3 Pro actually works a lot better and more reliable. Mostly because it has it's own wide angle camera opposed to using the HDMI port.
This is camera review.
The lack of continuous AF on BM cams really limits the usefulness of this system. Since BM doesn't have continuous AF, you'll need to add LIDAR controlling a focus motor, which means you can't use the focus motor for zoom, which means if you also want zoom, you'll need a power zoom lens compatible with this setup. Sony makes great PZ lenses, but it's unclear to what extent this whole system is compatible with the Sony ecosystem, it seems mostly designed for BM. As such, you're limited to only a few native MFT PZ lens options. Most are cheaper, not the greatest image quality. Panasonic makes several MFT PZ lenses that are maybe acceptable (???) depending on your standards. Also, there are no MFT PZ lenses with constant aperture, meaning brightness will change throughout the zoom range. And none very fast (especially considering MFT sensor). He mentions the Olympus ED 12-100 constant f4, but that is NOT a Power Zoom lens, so you're back at square one, using the focus motor for zoom, and missing out on focus....which wouldn't be a problem with literally ANY other camera system that had either C-AF or better Power Zoom lens choices.
If it was possible to use this whole Middle Things / DJI gimbal PTZ setup with Sony cameras, (or any camera system that supports C-AF), it'd be much better! Not only does Sony make some great PZ lenses, they also have AMAZING C-AF, meaning you wouldn't necessarily even need PZ lenses because you could use the native C-AF for focus, which would free up the focus motor to be used for Zoom on ANY Sony lens. No need for a finicky lidar setup, and you have WAY more and WAY better lens choices. Perhaps better, you'd have the ability to use FASTER lenses, with constant aperture, on larger sensors, up to full frame, meaning faster speeds than an equivalent MFT value (about 2 stops more DOF). Not to mention some of the cool Sony features like clear image zoom, which gives you 1.5-2x the zoom range (with some caveats, look it up).
In short, I love this system, and everything Middle Things is doing here, but it's really too bad it seems (???) to be limited mainly to BM, which means no C-AF without clunky LIDAR, limited PZ lenses of pretty low quality, no PZ options with constant aperture, and if you choose non-PZ lenses you either give up focus, or zoom.
PS: The Canon power zoom adapter won't work with this system, so EF lenses are out. And the new Canon 24-105 f2.8 constant PZ lens is for RF mount, so no go there either. Really, AFAIK, if you want the full PTZ with C-AF, you're stuck with pretty limited MFT choices and nothing with constant aperture.
Great review and really good seeing your control units. Does your PTZ control box work over public internet or is it only for hardwired setups ?
Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday so great timing! What is the difference in latency between HDMI and 12G SDI? I have wanted a digital crop punch in on the ATEM for quite some time for 1080 punch ins on the 4k sensor. Thank you for all you do.
Great video, is this Gimball able to be wall mounted? and just so i understand correctly you can control the gimball and camera via the Atem Mini Pro.
Great review! Camera looks great but please change your table to something more stable. It's disturbing when gimbal shakes all the time and taking attention from you ;)
Do you suggest this camera for Tiktok/Podcasting/live or would be enough a Sony A6000? Thanks
Great video. Just got my camera!
How can I use this as webcam streaming? Kindly share your thought's and what devices I need to make it perfect solution, Thanks
Fantastic review Thank you
Wow. Camera's have come a long way since they went digital.
How do you genlock multiple cameras? Is the video In same as Ext-Ref Sync? TIA!
Absolutley love this one!
What zebra has another channel? 😮 Subscribed!
This should have some webcam features.
Why? You can just run it into an ATEM or Atomos Cast or whatever. This is a tiny camera.
Is that cheaper or better image quality with native PTZ Camera like Sony FZ7?
Thanks for the video! Can you control the camera setting and start/stop through a Blackmagic Video Assist monitor? I'm trying to figure out how to use it handheld on a gimbal without menu diving and button clicking on the camera every time a setting needs to be changed.
Nice content ❤️🔥
Does it shoot 4k 24fps?
Can you control it over the usb-c port if you're recording onto usb-c media?
So you have a very small camera, but you have to hook up all these attachments to it. What’s the point?
that’s kinda the point
Love the from factor, would have been a perfect size for more content creators (I'm more in that market than pro users but love BM product) with a bluetooth/wifi and prores addition it could have closed a huge gap and challenged sony as the defacto content dslr.
I saw the price and it was not bad! I thought it would be scary expensive but no. I might buy it for my bell recordings with a good mic. Thanks for the review!
Yeah it's super decent
Always loving your videos!
DJI told me this camera sin't compatible with DJI gimbal, notably RS3, can you confirm which DJI gimbals its compatible with? I really need active tracking and zoom control
**Cinematic FPV pilots have entered the chat
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No Bluetooth, what about time code? My biggest issue would be low light. The older model was horrible. Im hoping to see some real world low light performance. I akso wish it had built in SRT or NDI seing that it supports an ethernet port via usb. Im excited. Going to give BMD another try now.
How do you use this for live use without being able to run LUTS on the sdi output?
Do that with the switcher.... you'd hope.
What about the autofocus I know it is popular to have a limited use system but would you share a clip of that with this camera?
It will be so cool if we just add a slider to the mix and just control everything from a table top. Even for fiction. At factories or corporate shoots.
how is th fan noise? the Gen1 had a lot of noise after some hours the fan kicks in and it makes a lot of noise for a quiet needed studio (yes we have had a bunch of them and all had the same issue)
can this camera last in 23/7 livestreams?
Could you recommend a good wide angle light lens for drone shots?
14mm Panasonic LUMIX G Lens. Beware that this camera has a very slow rolling shutter (~16.66ms) so be ready for potential jello drone footage.
I wish they made a tiny viewfinder for this cam
Would this work well as a webcam?
Looking at the legs of the tripod in early the video, it appears the camera is about a half inch away from falling of of the desk. And his elbow is right next to the leg.
looks awesome
What about instead of going with the Olympus M.Zuiko ED 12-100mm we take the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 40-150mm F/2,8 Pro
Just wished the HDMI port would go up to 2160p or offer RAW output :(
If this camera had the option to attach the view finder and option to put the NPF battery instead of canon it would be perfect
Just hook a viewfinder up to the HDMI port.
@@mrshaheedmalik yeah but those are big and you gotta add a battery to it and it just became a rig, would be nice to not have to rig it
@@sammymorales6838A box camera is (mostly) always a rig camera
Awesome & Thanks :)
can i use this on a concert taking pics of the singer?