AMD's Big Navi Announcement
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- The RX 6800, 6800 XT and 6900 XT have all been revealed.
See the presentation here: • Where Gaming Begins: E...
0:00 - The new cards
3:32 - Halo product
4:27 - Other features
6:35 - Efficiency
7:59 - Things to consider
Impact Prelude Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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i must just say philip, i know your technology videos arent the most watched on your channel, but i REALLY appreciate them. anytime something new is released, and you have made a video about it, you are my choice over everyone else.
+1 mens))
on god I rewatched the DLSS video just because I love how he talks about it
I could listen to philip talk technology all day
Agreed.
Respectfully, I think that the Hardware Unboxed benchmarks are the industry's best work. This video is very interesting and all, but I need to check HWUB's benchmarks every time before making a purchasing decision.
I got the AMD announcement as a preroll on this video and watched the whole ad thinking it was the introduction to your video. :D
U stupid?
@@maxkraus7063 no u
@@Unirule no, u.
@@owowowo8548 no, you
Lucky you, i got chocolate bar ads all the way through and my tooth is aching.
This is unrelated to the video but I just ate an entire can of canned pineapple and thought of you the whole time
The only thing I'm waiting for is AMD to release their version of DLSS to APUs. That would shake up the budget market.
So true!!! I have Vega 8 graphics and I would kill for having 720p performance on 1080p
AMD won't release their version of DLSS called Super Resolution to APUs since these kind of features require special hardware requirements to run, for example to run DLSS you need an RTX card with tensor cores, and most likely same will apply for AMD's Super Resolution meaning that unless they happen to include these hardware features with their next generation APU's, which I doubt they will, you won't be able to upscale games for improved performance.
@@andreiarg This claim is completely unfounded. We know next to nothing about Super Resolution right now sans that it will work differently from DLSS.
Lower the resolution by 83% and apply radeon image sharpening, almost same results
@@andreiarg Dude, all next gen features are built-in every CU. Unless AMD redesign the entire arquitecture to remove this features, we are probably gonna see most of then in the next gen of APUs. (Granted, they will surely make the jump to RDNA in AM5 together with the new DDR5 memory).
Why am I even watching this, I can't even afford a used 1080
likewise but technology is fun and philip videos are also fun
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mum, i need it NOW!!!!!!
I can't afford the keyboard I am typing this with...
Same, and with the neverending economy problem in my country it is impossible for me to upgrade. I think I will be suck with Vega 8 graphics for another 3 years or so :/
@@juanignaciojaime7563 If you have desktop pc, just try to look for cheap used RX570 for under 100$
If AMD can keep a stock they could be putting a lot of strain on Nvidia.
I think AMD will see how Nvidia handled it and try and make sure they don't do the same thing. The guidelines on how retailers should sell their cards should be a big indicator of that
I don't think AMD is going to do a lot better than nVidia. Not because of some nihilism or "company bad", I just don't think they can keep up with demand, no matter how much they stock. I'm certain they'll have more stock at launch and more people will be able to get their cards, but they won't be able to keep a stock for long.
@@metroplexprime9901 Yeah, this is a global silicon industry problem.
@@metroplexprime9901 yeah that sounds about right. Considering what's going on in the world right now, they're definitely not going to be in stock for long.
But I wish AMD the best. No one could have expected that they will be able to seriously compete with both Intel and Nvidia in the same year.
@@cunt5413 I do too. I'm really rooting for AMD to compete at all ends of the market, low and high. While nVidia hasn't slumped like intel, it's still going to put on the pressure to make better and better cards at lower prices. Stock will certainly be an issue, but I hope that there will be a 5 minute window for people to order in on launch.
Nice of you to talk about AMD without saying Nvidia every 2 seconds
Nvidia
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Intel
According to coverage by LTT and TechJesus, Rage Mode is responsible for 1-2% of that increase. The rest is SAM
I love how this comment sounds out context
This is about what I expected. Even without DLSS, the 3000 series has a lot of power, and if DLSS sees wider-spread adoption then it's not a fair competition.
@@jocyanide 3000 series is severely bottlenecked by the amount of vram in 4k, so even if 6800 had the same rasterization performance as 3070 it would be better value. And don't forget that AMD teased "Super resolution" which is supposedly a DLSS competitor. But to be fair, It is not going to work as good as DLSS 2.0, otherwise they would talk about it more
SAM is responsible for around 10% and rage mode 1-2% according to techquickie video by Riley (one of the members of LTT)
@@niar69 msft+sony+epic+amd can probably beat nvidia
Oh yeah, "Smart Access Memory" is another rebranded feature, more commonly known as "resizable BAR support" or ">4GB IOMMU". However, as it was not widely available on Windows, devs could never really take advantage of it. Perhaps that will change with this fancy marketing name.
Seeing as it was there for all games in the benchmark at least it looks like a driver implementation and at least it working or not is game independant. The gains might be quite dependant on the game though.
Thanks.
**more than 10GB of vram to stay future proof**
**Sad 1060 3gb noises**
cries in 2GB 750 Ti
lol what about me, gtx 950 2gb xD
I have a 2gb 760... it's trash when compared with these new gpus... wonder how the budget market will look like from amd, hopefully they'll release like a 6500m or 6600m to compete with the 3060...
@@vali69 dude the bright side is they can slap this on laptop and call it a day
@@Gargantura well they would have power and cooling restrictions, its not easy, its not impossible, but the market for mid range gaming laptops seems bigger then that of the high powered ones tho I won't complain if they released a 150w 6800m with the performance to beat all other laptop gpus... tho it would need a lot of cooling for such a gpu...
I don't know the first thing about PC's, but I'm gonna watch this simply because I love the narration.
me too
The King of Antarctica
Got lost, speech coach you need, having a metal breakdown! Love???
@@lucasrem Ever considered that english might not be his first language love????
Learn the first thing about PCs
@@lucasrem Are you alright?
I'm gonna be a minority here. The RX 6000 announcement was exciting for me for something else.
It's the RTX 3000 series but with proper Linux support! Using Nvidia with Linux makes you want to bash your head on the desk, but now we don't have to deal with that! The same level of performance with full Linux friendliness!
This is GREAT news for Linux Gaming. Alongside already existing goodies like Xanmod Linux Kernel, Valve's ACO shader compiler for AMD GPUs, Proton GE and Lutris.
recently "switched" to linux and im kinda curious, what problems do you face with nvidia? the driver installation process weirded me out but then i realized the "additional drivers" config in xubuntu does it for you, other than that been having decent performance on lutris ,havent had the time to test something native but i def should, is there a big difference?
on the other hand i face some annoying issues with the ancient ati card on my laptop like choppy video playback, im sure theres a magic command somewhere to fix it all that i cant find, but wouldve loved to have this just out of the box, im 1000% modern AMD cards have perfect linux support tho just sharing my experience
My experience with AMD support on Linux has been... Mixed at best. Having bought a new laptop with an AMD Ryzen 5 4600U in April the performance was abysmal. With no graphics drivers on 5.4, 5.7, 5.8 and 5.9 not even booting with graphics drivers enabled and neither touchpad nor HDMI working correctly it is safe to say I can't recommend the use of new AMD laptops with Linux 'til 2021. At least wifi worked out of the box on KDE Neon.
@@irrationallymadphysicist6945 no wayland support, that alone is making me switch to amd in future
what the heck? amd's drivers are way better than nvidia's on linux
AMD fighting a full stack war with NVIDIA and winning is HUGE, how AMD, a company far smaller than both of its main competitors is able to compete at such a level is absolutely amazing.
Hey Philip, they did mention how much Rage Mode and SAM matter (not in the live announcement). RM 1-3% SAM 6-7%. Although I do agree with you that not everyone will be able to use SAM, they did only use it in their benchmarks on the 3090 vs 6900xt, and people who will get a gpu that's $999+ will get the new CPUs and 500 series boards. Their versions of ddls and raytracing are still in development and dlss won't be available at launch (driver patch later). Raytracing will be about 20% worse. Anyway, thank you for the good summary of the event and let's hope for a good price-war to come.
Bumpy bump
Remember with the 6800 you also get twice the vram, but yeah $550 looks alot better then $580, I'm guessing the main competitor will be the 3070 super, with a back and forth price war
Also Nvidia need to stop short changing it's customers on vram capacity and treating it as a flagship premium features, they've pulled this stunt for awhile now
nvidia "pushed" it back etc... just in time to make it a price war, imo sounds like some corporate espionage. All amd needs to do is have stock and they will sell out anyway because noone has got their hands on a cards yet.
nvidia launching a 3070ti soon probably.
and the 3070 is $500, not $550
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j yea 3070 is apparently going to be starting at 500, however nvidia cocked up its previous launches so I think people will probably be willing to shift to amd this generation if they can buy it. It isnt a matter of how much, but can I purchase it.
@ScryTv but rt barely works on 3090, so no point really getting a 3070 or 3080 for the rt
@ScryTv the amd cards seem better for 4k gaming as they have more more vram and rt is fucking useless. RTX features are literally gimmicks apart from perhaps shadowplay, but with the multitude of alternative recording suites available now I dont think its really worth mentioning. I think a big factor to consider is going forward is that most gaming cpu's will be ryzen. I think some lawsuits might be brought forth to stop this new technology.
The fact that AMD's new cards appear to be quite good and on par with Nvidia's offerings is some real good news for me. I'm a Linux gamer and Nvidia's famously been real annoying when it comes to Linux while AMD actually does a pretty acceptable job. So for generations you always had to chose between decent support and good cards. If AMD's cards are really as good as they seem here and on top of that don't melt, this might finally change. I'm looking forward to it.
The large VRAM amount makes AMD the clear winner for machine learning workloads... or it would be if Nvidia's CUDA api wasn't so dominant over OpenCL/Vulkan in that area that you're practically forced to buy nvidia.
Competition can't exist in the ML space because the industry had handed Nvidia a monopoly on a silver platter. AMD can't compete even if they wanted because they'll never be allowed to implement Cuda in any of their cards.
Well, it is sad but no one gives nothing for free, unless you don't have market share and you are forced to do so, and look more "competitive"....
There's a reason amd cards were favored by bitcoin miners in the crypto boom a few years back: Radeon's architecture is better than geforce's for compute tasks like hashing and tensor operations. The only reason nvidia dominates the machine learning isn't because their cards do anything special but purely because ML framework developers choose to use CUDA over OpenCL/Vulkan. Thankfully that is changing with newer frameworks adding opencl and vulkan support so that amd cards can be used aswell
@@mar2ck_ That is not true, Vega cards (for example) don't have better "cores", those cards were repurposed datacenter GPUs and have a lot of cores compared with the Nvidia equivalent, for games those cores are awfully unoptimized and were a joke, but for executing single, asynchronous and parallel FLOAT32 workloads, they are great.... sadly rendering games goes far beyond just executing FP32 and INT32 fast....
@@victorsegoviapalacios4710 I should have clarified, by "better" i meant better performance per watt which for cryptocurrency mining is a big deal and for server GPU hosting is something to consider. Of course gaming is a different beast when it comes to amd vs nvidia performance
@@mar2ck_ 3090 still has more VRAM for machine learning workloads and is able to NVlink for double, while its a massive premium, machine learning is usually a field with the money to spend on such things.
Its really good seeing AMD and RYZEN on top again
Its good for everyone, health competition
This would be Radeon not Ryzen
dont get too excited, wait for the actual stuff to be out and benchmarked
@@R3in_Ch yeah, we need to wait for independent reviews
I hope they could compete with gpus on laptops as well... they won this year with the beast that is the 4800h but it would be good to compete with nvidia here as well because nvidia seems really lazy when it comes to laptop gpus... like this year they only released super varients of the 2070 and 2080 and unlocked the 2060 to 115w from 80w...
4:50 there is currently rumblings from inside nvidia that the higher vram 3070 and 3080 models were canceled for unknown reasons, so I wouldn't be surprised if these cards never release. Nvdida certainly does need something new to compete however, perhaps a 3070 ti, although it seems that nvidia is trying to avoid cluttering the lineup with ti and super cards. I wouldn't be surprised if nvidia releases a Titain with the full GA102 die to take back the performance crown, because the 3090 is slightly cut down from the full die.
I hope that by RDNA 3 they'll be able to make software for professional users competitive with Nvidia's. This is one of AMD's biggest Achilles heels.
I really hope either AMD or Nvidia drop a $200 or $300 card soon. They can't keep pretending that the consoles don't exist and offer an amazing value
Nice video phillip nice to hear about tech news from you
I'm really loving your tech videos, they are a good mix between entertaining and informative whereas on TH-cam it's usually either or with these things.
Good video Phillip, AMD has stated to other Media Outlets that Rage Mode offered around 1-2% performance uplift, with SMA making up the rest.
Thanks for the update kliks!
Their fidelity features are open source, aswell. An important point.
I was waiting for this, philip
Thanks
Where are all the $300ish cards gone man :(
I think both plan to release the mid- low range later.
Yeah dude :( I miss the RX500/GTX1000 generation
@@arkadyaaa yeah but at what cost? Lower Vram than the previous previous (yes two previous) generation? 6gb? Pathetic really
I think he means 300$ high end cards, like the ones from the mid to late 2000's... It is kinda sad how price gouged consumer level GPU's have become
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp well the dollar us worth less as well, inflation is a fuck specially without proper wage readjust
For all people who watched his teardown content it just came Into early access on steam! So hyped!
Imagine getting those fancy features on iGPUs in mobile Ryzen chips, like the ones in the average laptop that parents would buy to their kids for school. That would be awesome.
What do you want to upscale? Gameboy pocket?
@@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 You jest, but that would actually be fuckin' baller.
@@threesixtydegreeorbits2047 maybe. it will probably look like shit but yeah why not
Have to say I wish I would've found your channel before. your content is great!
Finally. I been waiting for AMD's answer. Until real reviews come in, AMD looks promising. I'm really hoping for a price war. I never spend more than 200 dollars on GPU, but I might burn 300 for really dope card.
Love these kinds of vids
I find it weird that ray tracing gets more attention than VR.
We've had beautiful games running at hundreds of FPS on a pancake screen for many years.
VR is the area where upgrades are actually needed.
SMP (Nvidia) is cool in iRacing but otherwise there's actually just nothing.
It's been a long time, since I've heard SMP
But the day I got vr, multi monitors setup was no longer the most immersive experience :D
VR is mostly bottlenecked by the physical headsets
simply because ray tracing is "free"
@@ganondorf66 I don't think it is. Nothing can run any decent looking VR games (Dirt: Rally 2.0, Assetto Corsa, iRacing, ACC..) at good settings at 144hz at Valve Index resolutions.
My RX5700XT can run any flat game out there at 1440p or 1080p. VR.. not so much.
All of this directly affects VR. At the end of the day, its just 2 displays in a headset. Most of the important things related to VR are the HW features, there is no standard yet and that makes SW optimisation a lot more difficult. You can already do Ray Tracing in VR, its just way more demanding.
The 5700 was flawless about a month after launch. Was functional on day 1 at least. Worked better on windows 7 for me I think.
After your sponsorship videos from the Green team, I was pretty amazed by that video.
Nice concerns, right thoughts.
Respect for you.
PS. Have you ever been sponsored by the red team?
And what do you think about Ryzen 5xxx series cpu?
Thanks.
I was wondering when you release this
SAM (the memory thing) was shown to be like 5% perf increase, AMD uploaded a vid later with Frank Azor talking about SAM
Rage is also a bit like PBO on the Ryzen CPUs, its pseudo overclocking just taking out power limits so u will still be limited on ur GPU cooler and general how good/bad the GPU board is
Anyways good vid, ur tech "overview" vids are honestly much better then most of the tech press and NOT clickbaity at all
If you're curious about the performance gains attributed to the different features: GN asked AMD about it and they stated that about 2-3% are gained by "Rage mode".
Man what a time to start my first build
These videos are great. Reminds me of adoredTV
To discuss a bit a bout the performance gain from both Rage mode and the Smart Access Memory (SAM), I remember seeing LinusTechTips' video yesterday and they said that about 1-2% performance came from Rage Mode and the rest from the SAM. Not really sure where they got the information if not from the presentation, so it's a bit odd to me that you don't seem to have the same information.
I must clarify that I haven't actually watched the full presentation, therefore I don't really know if they got access to other details due to their press status or what not.
Great vid anyway!
According to the slides SAM (smart access memory) was not used with the 6800xt benchmark, it was used with the 6800 (but no "rage mode") and with the 6900xt both SAM and "rage mode" were enabled.
smart access memory basically amounts to resizable BAR support. unless AMD is imposing restrictions on older CPUs, it should work fine on any board that supports large enough MMIO sizes
I love these types of videos. its so cleen
I love it when you talk about GPUs and CPUs
My poor pc is iust waiting for the new budget gpu options.. cant imagine performance and price
They also didn't mention VR support or features which is the only reason I need an upgrade.
Gamers Nexus received feedback from AMD that Rage mode contributes for 1 to 2% points of the performance uplift in the Rage+SAM graphs.
I'm sure that will improve over time with newer games utilizing the tech
@@MatrixJockey It’s not some sort of new tech, it’s basically just maxing out the power limit of the GPU with one click. No optimisations needed here.
@@ShawFujikawa I get that but Smart Access is what I was referring to.
As much as I want to be excited for this, I know that these cards are going to be scalped like crazy. Best case scenario is that they aren't scalped anywhere near as fast as the Geforce 30 series cards, lasting 10 minutes as opposed to -666 minutes.
Radeon SAM has been a thing on Linux for a while already and works on past gpus and cpus.
Roumors say that that it might come to other cpus on Windows as wel
Finally competition. I think the real fight is going to happen when the TI/Super models for both brands start to appear
Teardown's on early access boys!!!
Coool!
I'm still mainly interested in the gtx3080 as I just like being able to use some of the specific Nvidia software, but I'm so glad AMD is really bringing competition this generation. It'll drive down prices for older cards and spread out the inventory for people of both sides as there will be less of a focus on the 3080's inventory when people start buying the 6800 and 6800 XT instead. At the end of the day, everyone wins with this announcement.
A couple of inaccuracies in the review... 1. They do have a comparisson available showing difference with SAM on and off and 2. Rage mode isn't one click overclocking, it's a boost to the power limit which means the card is more likely to achieve its boost clocks for more of the time. The actual boost clock isn't changed so there is still potential for overclocking.
Here's some more info.
Rage mode only got you a 1-2% increase while SAM(Smart Access memory) was responsible for the rest of it.
All rage mode does is increase the power slider for the card(slightly not to the max) and the fan speed curve is changed to compensate for the thermals.
You addressed my exact worries about this presentation. I'm not SUPER worried about ray tracing. I can handle having way less fps with it on (as long as it's ~60 in 1440p) in select singleplayer games like metro and cyberpunk. However not having a DLSS equivalent is going to hurt bad in any game that's got DLSS 2.0 or 2.1 as it just allows or even beats that 60fps mark in most modern titles. That might be the real pain here for AMD. otherwise, I'm pretty happy with what they showed and I'm definitely considering a 6800XT.
now i'm not sure whether to get a 3090 or the 6900
LETS GO!
The black screen issue actually happens due to the way the 5000 series was built, to truly fix this issue you need a PSU that has larger transistors (like a newer PSU)1 to handle the sudden voltage surge it happens that causes this issue, the drivers can only minimize it from happening....
Unless yer on Linux, it didn't happen there at all combined with open source driver.
I think for this next gen big navi will have much better performance with any game optimized for console since they are finally rolling out the tons of crazy tricks that they use to get so much power out of there consoles and once they get a good base of developer deploying these in games they will have massive performance boosts over the 3090
I was not looking at the screen and i thought the video already begann, but it was only a amd ad
3600 and 5700xt, my choice from last year, seems to have been great as I don't see the new ryzens and radeons having better value. Maybe when they release 6700, but on the cpu side they made it clear that they don't wanna be cheap, instead be the better.
Only benchmarks that had SAM on included it on the slide so the 6800 XT does perform like a 3080 without SAM.
Agreed
I am interested in how's AMD's NVDEC and NVENC counterpart
If they implement an encoder similar in quality to NVENC I will buy it
they did denote which slide were with rage mode and smart access memory enabled, the 6900XT slide, it was not in the 6800, 6800 XT slides
AMD Drivers are like fine wine , they just keep getting better and better even years later but that dosn't mean they cant bring a working driver on release day !
Glad you mentioned the drivers. In the Linux community they somehow keep being praised for being open-source... but what good does that make them if they keep crashing and locking your system up. I'm now back on Nvidia and using their closed-source drivers - they additionally do a better job on power management, which matters a lot on a laptop.
I have heard the opposite in the community but olright.
Smart access memory provides 6-7% performance boost and Rage mode is 1-2% according to Gamer Nexus and they have info straight from AMD
Some inaccuracies here, rage mode isn't OverClocking, clock speeds are identical.
What it does do is increase the power limit and allow it to boost to its highest clock for longer.
@@2kliksphilip the clockspeed attained by Rage mode are also attained during stock operating, just longer in rage mode.
@@2kliksphilip no, that'd be using precision boost overdrive, still not overclocking because not going over rated clockspeed.
@@2kliksphilip it's not specified if it's referring to the already existing one click overclocking or if the two can be combined. Even so, why would they make a button that does the same thing as another one on the same menu?
Call it semantics but by definition rage alone isn't increasing max clock speed the same way raising the power limit doesn't.
However, if you end up reviewing these cards I'd love to see if manual overclocking benefits from the additional power headroom as well as thermals and if it can be stacked with other effects.
Gamers Nexus, for example, has made multiple videos, old and new discussing power modding on Radeon and how it's not actually overclocking. If you're interested I recommend checking them out as they've done more testing than I have.
The reason I seemingly got so hung up on semantics was because some may interpret what you said as a cause for instability and voiding of the cards warranty as overclocking traditionally is, whilst Rage mode does not.
11:05 SAM is just a resizable BAR support, which already available on Linux for years, Windows just lagging on support.
So, you could expect Intel and nvidia to support it later.
Source: Phoronix
About the SAM features Gamers Nexus reported that they asked AMD if the benchmarks used it they said they were not using it in any situations unless noted on the bottom of the chart. So hopefully that’s just raw performance.
I am waiting for dlss-like technology to be included in budget GPUs. Especially AMDs APUs. Playing new games on medium graphics 1080p@60fps with budget parts? That sound like great deal and the best way to enter PC-gaming.
The APUs CANNOT push 1080p 60fps medium
@@NickGhale yet
Id say it's unlikely in the next 3 years
that suspicious 50% less power consumption you pointed out got me thinking, and I actually think its some slightly deceptive marketing practices in terms of misrepresentative graphs. I think in reality its actually a 30% reduction from the previous models, and the "50%" is being pulled from half of the new power consumption numbers. for example;
Original power: 100,
New power: ~66
a 50% increase to 66 would take you back to 100, but where the deceptive marketing is, is in saying that a 50% decrease would get 66
This Smart Memory Access that you are worried about sounds a lot like DMA (Direct Memory Access) and has been here for a long time (I found references that point to DX9 ). I'm hoping that Smart Memory Access improves the speed and latency of DMA regardless of intel or AMD GPU
Will there be replacements for the 5700XT soon ? (i.e. cards at 350/400 euro price tag)
You appear to be unaware of FidelityFX. It is another name referring to a mix of in-driver features and middleware to be implemented by game developers. AMD GPUOpen is the equivalent to NVIDIA Gameworks (major difference being that GPUOpen is under MIT license and hence less black boxy to a developer). So when they say "we have an improved denoiser" it means that their collection of middleware contains a better denoiser. That is not a hardware or driver feature. But they also mix Dx12 Ultimate and recent Vulkan features in there.
DLSS is middleware afaik, contrast adaptive sharpening for example is not. I presume AMDs "Virtual Super Resolution feature" will amount into an industry standard library that more devs might be willing to adapt. Also we can expect great implementations from game developers working on primarily console focused upscaling algorithms that would trickle down to PC (already happend with some great temporal upsampling implementations)
2:10 the main advantage of the 6800 is that it's likely a little faster, and most importantly it has double the vRAM of the 3070. AMD did well to offer 16gb of vRAM in all 3 cards, the relatively small amount of vRAM on the 3080 (10gb) made for a good debate on whether I'd be enough for 4k in a couple of years, the extra vRAM on AMD cards will be important for deciding what to buy.
Aw hell yeah the top graphic cards. I can't wait to buy a 1080 for my new pc :')
10:27
The bottom right of the benchmarks show if they are using SAM or not
@@2kliksphilip on 6800xt benchmark they say it how much, between 4-11% or something.
@@2kliksphilip Yeah, you're right. Think they only showed the difference with RAGE Mode also enabled.
AMD told Steve at Gamers Nexus that RAGE mode in those slides was 1-2% of the total improvement shown, with SAM being responsible for the rest of it.
They have provided figures about Smart Access Memory on the website, just google "amd smart access memory", the performance gains vary from 5% to 11%
So i built my first ever computer around 25th October 2019 using the 5700xt. And at the start of the life, i was scared since i was getting the common black screen errors that people complained. However this was mainly due to driver issues. However, every since AMD's 20.4 + drivers, i've had no problems since with those issues and infact have actually gained a performance increase than before.
Also about tech youtubers, i wish those big tech youtuber would just give AMD a try in their "building the ultimate pc" or "building a budget pc" Everytime i see one of these videos, they always use Nvidia gpus and Yeah i get they might have stability etc, i want them to move away from that and show off something different and show that AMD is also a comparable product for PC gaming.
This is why i like youtubers like kliksphillip because he talks about news that people want to see and gives his own opinions (which are not that biased) and doesnt shill to the generic "One team is better" cliché.
Does Rage Mode void your warranty? The smallprints on the last text panals somehow suggest it...
The current wording suggests it does, but AMD have been saying to tech press that the wording will be updated to indicate that Rage Mode doesn't void the warranty.
@@ericbourduas8141 Thx, you are right!
I'd love to see how RTX IO and AMD Direct Storage improve their respectie products. I wouldn't be surprised i it turns out both are just the same thing with different branding.
The black screen issue was such a bad excuse tbh as a 5700xt user I barely had that problem and resetting the GPU driver with the hotkey would fix the issue and even fix performance issues and now with the current update I've never had a single black screen since april.
I won't be playing at 4K (except for future VR headsets) so I'll go for the RTX 3070 for its cheap price and excellent value
Yeah I'm in the same boat. 1440p 144hz will be possible for many years on the 3070 while being 80 cheaper. Waste of money going higher for my (and I'm assuming your) use cases. :D
Dont expect that 8GB of VRAM to last long then
Doesn't VR use alot of VRAM
@@01RIE01 As far as I know, 8GB should be enough for a few years. Not sure about 4K, but lower resolutions should be fine.
@@Drewww02 Yup, right now 4K isn't viable for competitive games and playing at high refresh rates makes you never want to go back so I don't need as much VRAM to play at lower resolutions
I was already putting myself in your shoes when I was watching the presentation, I like your influence! I personally don't care much about Ray Tracing, but DLSS is absolutely revolutionary. I just hope AMD hasn't forgotten about budget gamers who are still playing on 1080p and like performance more than graphics.
All new graphics cards are already overkill for 1080p. That’s no longer important really. The 3070 or 6800 will be more than enough for 1080p in all circumstances
heck, even a 5600XT is more than enough for 1080p at max settings right now
Yes, new graphics cards that are way above $500. You can't have features like DLSS if you're on a budget for the time being.
@@WatTeFuk But if you're at 1080p DLSS isn't really that important
@@livelyosprey It would still be awesome to gain performance by upscaling from 720p to 1080p!
So if I want to play mankind divided at full settings which one do I get
It’s very true that people don’t trust AMD driver/compatibility.
Multiple people said I should go for nvidea because of better drivers, but 5700xt was 100 euro cheaper to a comparable nvidea card so I went AMD. Sometimes when gaming I get a random ‘GPU disconnected error’ as well as VR errors only solved by pc restart (no idea if it is gpu-related, but I get the idea it is). Sometimes weird sound too.
Gonna wait for some reviews and tests. Then it´s either 6900 XT or 3080 TI(when it´s coming out)
I was expecting similar results, I remember seeing something where it was suggested that AMD knew about the 3080 and how good it was for its price and already had the 6800xt ready to compete, but were not expecting the 3090, and where expecting the 6900xt to be the fastest card on the market until the 2nd RTX Titan, but at 1/3rd the price.
Raytracing performance was leaked I think also, the 6800xt gets similar performance to a 3070 when raytracing was on and 3080 when it was off which is disappointing but expected from 1st generation raytracing, as with Raytracing on the 3070 would preform the same at $200 less.
Will the new AMD GPU have better openGL drivers? They seem really tempting, but in switch emulation, vulkan isnt greak right now
Yep
In the end, we have to wait for reviews to actually see the comparisons... I'm more excited about the new CPU's tbh but I'm interested to see what this smart access memory stuff is all about... most likely will upgrade the CPU then see if the hype for this feature is actually worth switching to AMD GPU's again (after 8 years of Nvidia it will be hard to convince me to switch back to a product I have a dark history with)
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Philip tech tips, ain't that the dream of us all.
rtx voice, is amazing. that's probably why i will go with rtx 3070.... when in comes back in stock...
When he was mentioning the 5000 black-screening, he was referring to the GPU series and not the new CPUs, right?
GPU series, yes.