Holding out for a $200 GPU Hero
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- PC gaming is expensive! It needs a $200 GPU hero now, more than ever.
Impact Prelude Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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0:00 - The Importance of the $200 Card
2:57 - The $200 GPU hero
4:57 - The Story since 2016
6:32 - Current offerings
9:30 - Trouble in Chip land
10:58 - What will happen next? - เกม
The iconic 2kliks hardware music background theme is refreshing to hear
ironically made by Kevin Macleod.
it makes me cry
Truly
Yeah I noticed it and thought it sounded really good. I wouldn't listen to it instead of music of my own personal taste but this goes great with the video.
We want a 200$ graphics card! When do we want it? Now! how much should it cost? 200$!
How much stock do we want? Enough stock!
RTX 3050TI? RX 6500XT?
GT 1030
rtx 3050 should be $199 but with 2 gb less vram and worse cuda core count, i think if a 3050 ti ends up being around $250 it will be a lot more worth it
@@Hops_III it should have at least 2060 performance, making it more than worth it.
good old independent journalism, good for you Phillip !
And there's NO "please #Subscribe & hit the #Bell icon" as a free bonus 😉
I member when the high-end cards were about £250 - £300
Those prices felt stable for so long. I had a GTX280 for £300 back in 2009 which failed in warranty and replaced with a GTX470 (valued approx... wait for it... £300) in 2010, which later I replaced with a £300 GTX970 in 2014, for about 2.5-3x performance. I'm on a 1060 6GB now (970 died in warranty - I'm told I have poor luck with GPUs...).
Six years after I bought that 970, I can now spend £300 and get a 1660ti or RX5600. I would've been genuninely better off getting a 980ti and have 1660ti level performance for the past half decade for the same cost as 970 + 1660ti...
@@ReissTC I’m still on my good old 980Ti. Waiting for a 3070 now.
I sold my pc to a dear friend with monitor keyboard mouse and everything in-between for extremely fucking cheap so we can play together. That was before 3000 was announced, I convinced myself that it would be healthy to leave gaming for a whole focus on my studies and build a new one for Christmas. I still don't have a PC till this day. The one I sold to my friend can go for literally 2x the price I gave it to him for. Oh well, he's at least enjoying it. Gave him my steam so he can start gaming before I get my PC and he would make buy his own games. It seems my friend took the biggest W throughout this shit lol
@@seasesh4073 you’re a good friend at least!
@@ReissTC I bought my gtx 1070 new in 2017 for £300, and since then things have gone backwards. A 1070 will just about beat out a 5600XT or 1660ti, and cost the same (£300) 4 years ago. Why has there been a 0.9x decrease in price to performance :(
Man, when it comes to upgrading to anything, we should probably wait for 2022 or even later.
I'm starting to think so too. My R9 380 is gonna have to weather the next few years
I'm waiting for DDR5 to release (and work well with a reasonable pricetag). By that time we've probably got some substantial improvements for CPU and GPU too and I can just buy an entire new rig without worrying of backwards compability of my mainboard and stuff.
That PC will probably last until some component fails then, since I don't think games will become substantially more demanding than they are now tbh. Or at least until VR _really_ takes off and becomes the new standard (which I honestly don't think will be the case in the next couple years either - if ever).
I got an rx5500xt for a little less than 180 in the summer of 2020 right before everything was out of stock I believe its almost doubled in value already and is just getting more and more in demand
Look into laptops if you are in despret need for a new gpu. Find the price of a hole unit better vs buying desktops nowdays. And benefits are mobility. But fan noise and mid range graphics are real. For good price. Laptop sales are real. Not GPU's.
@@TheDiner50 lmao, yeah, sure
Laptops are trash
At this point I could get crack cheaper then today's gpu's
No shit. Unless you're buying huge amounts you're not paying anywhere close to $500 of crack.
Isn't crack cocaine mixed with baking powder and water to make it way cheaper?
Crack is one of the cheapest hard drugs in existence, hence why it dominates in poor communities.
maybe crack technology should be integrated within GPU's
@@At0micMeltd0wn That's coke but crack is mixed with other things that look like crack rocks.
I needed a new PC a year ago, waited because I thought the old parts are going to be cheaper once new ones arrive. Now even the old stuff is more expensive than a year ago. The 3600x went from 160 to 250€ here...
Is it because of Covid? That everyone is buying hardware for enjoyment at home (because of lockdown)? or is it because of the bitcoin miners? It feels like tech is expensive last year or two.
yep. Bought my 2700x for 150dollars a longer while ago and now its more, I sold my 2200g for 50euros, its now 90..used..with a launch price of 99dollars new. sucks!
i get your suffering friend i had the same mindset a year ago it semms a lot of ppl did huh.
I’m stuck with my 6700k and 1080. Been on waitlist for 3080 for 103 days and there’s no chance I’ll get it before they stop honoring MSRP in April. I gave up and started looking for a console and now I just gave up entirely.
@@I_SuperHiro_I well, 1080 is still a pretty good card.
rx590 gang here, who would've thought this weird ass double refresh card would be one of best value of 2020 and I'm glad I got it before the crash...
Bro I loved my rx590, THE budget card of the last two years. (Including the 580)
running a 570 rn and it runs half life alyx and boneworks with oc
I have been rocking my rx570 since 2016. I honestly thought I overspent on 'meh' card. I didn't do my research, It was my first time buying a GPU. But now, I wish I brought two cards, so I can mine crypto coins with my old machine.
@@yeetleslaw8529 rx570 rocks!
Same
I still have my GTX 1060 and no plans to replace it currently. There's no affordable card, that would actually be a great upgrade. This video hits the nail on its head.
Same, I'm going to wait as long as I possibly can to upgrade, the old 1060 still does everything I need!
Yeah I was planning on upgrading to the 3060 Ti from my 1060 but they're all sold out and overpriced :/
@@zedg7473 same. Wanted to upgrade to 3060ti since my 1060 is the 3gb version. But it seems like it is still a long way to go till the stocks is available
I managed to cop an MSi RTX 3060Ti, so im happy. But its really fucking bad with everything related to computers. CPUs, GPUs, everything sold out.
@@faizzack luckily I chose the 6 GB version back then. The only reason was Skyrim modding and I knew I would max out my vram quite soon.
Maybe I'll upgrade when the next gen is coming.
7:32 "But in my mind, what the world wants is a good $200 cardigan."
Sounds awfully expensive for a sweater.
Seems like we want a cardigan that befits $200 price
it fits any size or something
Intel entering the discrete GPU market is the most exciting tech event this year for me. Third competitor is great news for everyone.
*everyone except AMD and NVidia
Dont hope that Intel will try to give fair-priced graphics card. Theyll go "the most powerful graphics card ever*" and sell it to 700$ too.
* made by intel
@@kolkoki While I share your pessimism, they see to be focusing in the mid tier market for now.
Are their cards available yet? Because I've been around hardware since 2002-ish and this is going to be Intel's third (?) try to enter the videocard market.
@@NostraDavid2 This time they seem really serious. Xe graphics will make a debut with Alder Lake CPUs this year. Discrete solutions hopefully come this year or early 2022.
God I wish graphics cards weren't all scalped and sold at 200%+ of their MSRP
even still they're sooo overpriced
@@wheezel55 here in Canada older parts are either out if stock or marked up
I wish it was only 200% here, it's more like 400-500%
I watch so many other tech youtubers and all they seem to talk about are gaming on the highest specs and how 30fps is "unplayable" , I really want to thank you for actually considering the simply poorer audience. Most youtubers don't want to focus the budget market (at least seriously) probably because it just doesn't go as viral, thank you for sacrificing a few views and actually focusing the budget market.
you might like LowSpecGamer too, he focuses on reviewing budget gear
I used to have a little 1050ti and I was able to run vr smooth enough and all my games good enough at high enough settings. I thought it was great! Sure I am spoiled and have a 3070 now and yes it is much better but I will never stop being impressed by the 1050ti and how good it is for the price that it was. Cheap gaming is extremely viable! Don't lose hope yall things will get better
@@CapriciousCurtis a 1050 ti isn’t a low spec card at all
@@speedshot6565 for $140 I would consider it a budget card but really the point I was trying to make was that a cheap card is still extremely viable in 2021
Like a wise woman once said
"I need a hero"
@ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀʟ ᴇᴄᴄʜɪ *Proceeds to play it in G minor instead*
I'm still salty about it, 17 years later.
Woman moment
My 960 astonishingly keeps chugging along, thats my hero.
Bruh ur so right, I have used a 970 for 6 years now. Still a pretty adequate card all things considered
Until mid 2020, I was using a GTX 650, which somehow managed to run games at okayish settings.
@@sharcc2511 dude, my 660 is still rocking on my secondary rig. Can't believe it.
@@sharcc2511 my first graphics card was a 650 ti! those cards rock, very under appreciated for the power they provided in that gen and beyond
for me its my 1050, its carried me through modern warfare and cyberpunk
Big facts we need something like that and we need 3 billion units apparently too
, so that maybe regular people can get their hands on one
Nah, they want to continue subjugating the entire population with ridiculous “covid” restrictions, destruction of the economy, nonexistent supply, artificially high prices, etc. welcome to communism.
@@I_SuperHiro_I bruh, this ain't communism. What are you? An edgy middle schooler?
@@I_SuperHiro_Ibruh chill out lmao
@@I_SuperHiro_I r/confidentlyincorrect
It's always funny when people throw around the word "communism" at everything because it is so obvious that you don't actually know what it means.
@@I_SuperHiro_I Oh thats funny, thank you. lol
imagine having DLSS in APU graphic chips
That could really be a killer. If AMD can get 480 level base performance on an APU that would still work for gaming at 1080p. Combine that with some widely supported DLSS-like tech and you could have an APU that just deletes any possibility of there ever being a sub $200 gpu ever released again.
Of course this will probably require at least DDR5, but that fits the 2023 timeframe Philip mentioned for sure.
@@froggle611 i think 480 is not physically possible so like an 470 460. Or just an vega 11 for vega 8 price with upscaling
@@froggle611 oh and ddr5 bruh ddr5 going to cost insane amounts of money. Only 16 gig sticks going to cost like the apu
squeezing in dlss circutry inside a small package APU would be pretty hard :/
@@froggle611 If that somehow happened you'd still get much better performance from a 200$ GPU
You're reading my mind. One of reason I haven't yet upgrade my gpu is coz I don't wana spend $400+ for it, and I doubt 3050 series will be in $200 range
probably 3050 ti 250$ and 3050 170-200$ but who knows
@@blendrugova2426 Given how greedy nvidia is right now, I expect them to be more like 269$ and 229$
@@ivanomatrisciano3828 and obviously the real prices will be around 250-320, since companies like msi think that "every gamer needs a card with rgb lights and shit design that we can ask more for". And shops need money too, so they will get those up also.
@@mediumplayer1 i dont think they are going to price weaker than 3060 gpu's for mor tha 280-300 dollars . Ya know if you have extra 20 dollars then why nor buy 3060 instead of 3050
@@sosac_hater_blen7191 in that case, true. However at my local online store I have encountered a situation when the price difference between a weaker and a stronger gpu(both new) is marginal at best, or sometimes a more powerful one is cheaper, just because the weaker one is "msi gaming edition" with rgb lights and stuff.
The music is so familiar. Love your tech videos. I think they're better than the other in the tech space
It’s from tear down
@@abcnews388 You mean the game; i dint think so, he used it ages ago in other tech videos
It's Kevin MacLeod, his music is everywhere on TH-cam because it's free to use.
Has a Borderlands vibe.
th-cam.com/video/tpdIyZ3z25E/w-d-xo.html
Its really weird that I feel nostalgic about PC hardware from the 2010er years
It's only weird if you want it to be. You can revel in that nostalgia by purchasing my dual GTX 950s. You will enjoy getting "frames," delivered at a "rate."
@@nimrodery lol
I remember being so excited for the RX 480.
Same, I'm still using my Sapphire nitro+ 4GB version.
Me too, I'm still running the nitro+ 8gb
@@illiiilli24601 me too!
It's gotta be fresh from the fight
Vega 56 was really one of my best investments, still able to play Cyberpunk at 2k for 300€ many years ago
I don't think this video came at a better time than now.
I was literally the other day checking what build i want to get, mostly for editing, BUT i also want a good graphics card that will hold me for years to come so i can game without stressing about my GPU, and the 1660 TI doesn't look appealing to me at all, bear in mind the price point as well.
I just feel like i'm in a losing battle, guess i gotta wait :(
I was just about to write a worried comment under his "What if I died" video...
nobody would miss his stale content aggregation if he opened his veins
@@Cd5ssmffan False
@@Snoutie Nah it wasnt to long. The last video he uploaded on one of his channels was on January 9th, but still thats longer than usually. But don't get me wrong I don't blame him for relaxing a bit.
@@Snoutie uhm no u just checked.
@@Cd5ssmffan you're probably an employee at NVIDIA's marketing dept.
that GPU retailed for 370 euro where i live, so it wasn't that "budget"
Could not agree more my friend. Ever since I upgraded my shitty 1080p monitor to a 1440p one I wanted to replace my rx580 with something faster. The problem is that I have to spend more than 400 euros to get a good perfromance card for this resolution.
I’m having the exact same issue, I’m probably gonna buy a 2060
Sell your 1440p monitor, and just use the 1080p monitor with a new grapichs card!
@@KrissFliss so upgrade for less image fidelity lol that’s stupid as fuck
Great quality, like always! I love how you made the music so much 'yours', like you've mentioned in one of your old videos - the power of association
Shout out to all the bitcoin miners who buy thousands of GPU and use more energy than whole country of Argentina.
I think this is the most sensible if not the most "objective" computer hardware series on youtube
Was just binging your hardware videos earlier today - perfect timing!
Amazing analysis. I hope you keep these coming.
12:43 Intel Internal Only - DO NOT SHARE
Made me cry in laugher :D
Everyone's talking about cheaper GPUs coming out and I'm just trying to get a new GPU
Dude, just an amazing video imma subsiribe just for it. It had me enticed all the way through and it was VERY well written and edited!
I really enjoy your hardware videos, good stuff!
No "Holding Out For A Hero" for the background music, sad!
holding out for a copyright strike
@@Dragoonoar Could've played like a MIDI cover or something though.
Got my 480 back in 2016 and never regretted it. To me, 200 dollars has always been the sweet spot for a GPU that provides a good gaming experience. It's sad that we don't really have a true mid-range card on the market and it's a shame as it is what we need.
Great video mate. I've been looking at the recent overpriced market and filled with despair. Youve dissuaded that despair and filled me with ideas and hope. Much appreciated.
This is such a good video and it makes such great observations. Hats off.
For reference, Ryzen APU's outperform GTX 750ti GPUs which is one of the most common GPU's amongst Steam gamers. :)
It really shows how far integrated graphics has come!
Maybe one day, AMD will release their Ryzen 7 4750g to retail so we can all enjoy 8 glorious cores with integrated graphics.
It's pretty annoying that AMD didn't release them for retail. Especially when we need it during this Gpu shortage, those oem prebuilts is the only way to get a 4750G, 5600G etc.
**Wish Granted**
An 8 core apu isn't any better than a 4 or 6 core one. If you want to game on an apu, you want AMD to put more vega cores since thats your bottleneck, not more ryzen cores.
Problem with people is impatience. They see out of stock, that scalpers bought everything, they rush and buy from scalpers, scalpers have more hope and will see their method is working.
AMD and nVidia could care less, they earn money from scalpers, why should they stop them? It goes for miners as well.
Be patient, don't buy from scalpers, and you'll see gpus in stock in no time.
Right now, you also need to fight with miners. Not related with impatience anymore.
@@adhahanif9792 Theres no fighting miners, both nVidia and AMD don't care because they profit off of them as well. What can we do to stop miners? Nothing.
Same thing happened when GTX 10 series and RTX 20 series were released, miners were buying them in huge amounts thus causing spike in price. We complained, nVidia was selling us a story that they would try to stop them. And.... nothing happened.
Miners shouldn't be that big of a problem this time, as ASICs (new or used) are available cheaper with much better hashrates. Buying a GPU for mining is insane.
@@nimrodery And many still do it fyi, it's crazy.
Scalpers should be scalped
The video I have been anticipating! Very exciting to watch this!
As always, you provide great reflection and analysis on computer hardware performance and market. I too believe that 2022/2023 will be a great time to build PCs. I want to start saving up, and then I'll build a PC with awesome DDR5, and whatever parts that have the best price/performance.
Thanks for the great content as always, Philip!
I always like your hardware videos, will be interesting to see what is available at that price point in the future.
I'm voting with my wallet as usual and just not buying hardware with poor price to performance
good thing the used market is a pretty good alternative to buying hardware first hand
@@gunswinger3110 except the used market now cost the same if not more than msrp
AMD and Nvidia are LITERALLY SHAKING as this BRAVE GAMER with an anime profile picture DESTROYS their sales by IGNORING THEIR PRODUCTS INTO OBSCURITY.
@@DanieleCapellini My pfp isn't from an anime. Also this is literally how you get companies to do what you like
@@falxie_ They really seemed to care during the last decade.
Im at least glad i see 30fps at 1080p as "good enough" so i can put graphic settings as high as possible, but without going too much below that.
biggest thing that annoys me in videogames are stutters/freezes, low details, and low res shadows. I dont need 120fps, even 60 is unnecessary for me, i want the game to look good
Your videos are so good, even if i dont watch them a lot, i respect what you are doing
great content as always keep it up!
I'm gonna be honest, currently, it makes more sense to have good internet and use something like GeForce Now / Stadia, then buy a PC :/
totally right but not everyone has fiber nor stable 4G/5G, some are still stuck with adsl and have that horrible 60ms+ latency that denies completely Gamestreaming :(
Man, I remember when the ATI 4850 was the $200 king.
Alright mate. I started watching your content 4 years ago on 3klicks. Love u have this channel. Keep up the good work my uk friend !
Well done mate. Good video!
I'm still rocking my RX480 from 4 years ago,
And it's still a pretty good card imo. I played cyberpunk on medium-high with 35-45 FPS.
this post was made by the 480 gang
Things are so crazy right now that I could easily believe Intel is going to release that so awaited '200 USD hero card'.
I mean, if they are going to release a card any soon, it is their chance to get free market share I guess
The rumor is that it will be a $500 card competing with the 3070.
@@Okxyd What a shit idea. A $200 performance card has been missing for half a decade now.
@@Okxyd false rumor,
@@Okxyd That is the 512 CU card, supposedly. The latest news is that they are also going to release a 128 CU card with 6GB of VRAM. But budget gamers would want to hope their architecture scales very un-linearly as CUs increase, because a quarter of a 3070 is less performance than an RX 580.
Intel Xe is still very much an unknown though, everything is still speculation at this point. And it's Raja so I would not be surprised if there's significant overpromising and underdelivering.
I LOVE these videos philip :)
I love when you talk about PC hardware, do this more often if you can, please?
me, who bought an RX580 in 2017 and really wants a meaningful upgrade: :(
Yeap :/
I got lucky with getting a new PC. Around summer, I kept on hearing from youtubers to wait for prices to lower. I was able to get my pc before the price rose up even more. Honestly, I don't if pc parts will get cheaper again.
Good choice, I waited too long and now have to stick it out for another year with a dying 750ti
Excellent video!
This exactly what I wanna hear , really good video
I need a hero
I'm holdin' out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holdin' out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life
Somewhere after midnight
my man phil is dying because he wants shadows and reflection and all I want is to be able to run minecraft in low settings
These hardware videos are always some of the most interesting videos.
I think that out of all of the other PC hardware TH-camrs, you have the most similar thoughts. I am way more interested in value for money builds.
Good video Philip.
Watched this 4 months ago, still holding out 🙏🙏
It's going to take a year at least.
I'm astigmatic and even to my eyes dlss looks deep fried, especially on The low end
this was very well researched
Couldn't have put it better myself. Thank you :)
I see you forgot the Polaris shortage due to the Bitcoin rush of 2016.
This is worse though.
Great video. The mid-entry level card has been neglected for almost half a decade. I really would like to upgrade from my rx580, but there's nothing out there.
great video !
I appreciate you making this video even if you received a beast of a graphics card. Standing up for the little man and all thatm
In Russia every "bang fo the buck" gpu's rised up in prices so much that now for 689 dollars you can only buy 570. 2020 v2 keeps on giving.
same on brazil ... ;(
Same in Poland, 265USD for used 1060 6gb, friking joke man
Hi Philip, when are you going to make another summarized video? I used to really enjoy those videos. I think a half life Alyx summarized would be great since you didn't finish the playthrough
Great video thx
Your observations are on point, I have the 580, was looking to upgrade over the holidays, only card I could afford was 1660 which I ended up not going for because its not a significant upgrade.
Yeah it's ridiculous.
I bought my 580 from a miner for 150 USD after crypto has a short term downturn a year or two ago.
Had to flash the bios sure but it holds steady.
And there's literally no upgrades in the 200-300 USD range even if we assume cards are sold at MSRP.
The RX5500 is basically the same card with halved power consumption.
1660 Super is indeed better but not better enough to warrant buying.
And everything past that might as well be in space with the pricing started by RTX cards.
maybe philip ai upscaling technology will be the next big thing on gpu's
i think it may be the case , we'll see that
Dude, you're so imaginative. I envy your way with words :)
The 480 was the champ of budget gaming and value in general. Getting 8GB VRAM in a card for 200 USD in 2016 was one of the best deals of all time and that card kept up so well over time I remember I got rid of mine in late 2019 and it was still maxing out games if not running at medium. And considering the 580 and 590 were literally the same thing 480 owners didn’t ever feel the need to upgrade until Navi. So long GCN.
My guess: as soon as they figure out how to upscale through ML on iGPU, the need for midrange will start to go away.
And tbh, the way iGPU has shot up in the last few years, I think the days of ultra cheap DGPU are numbered. Why would you want to sell a $200 right now in today's market as a company anyway? Margins are insane.
I'm still runing my GTX 660, since i dont play triple A games i have no need to upgrade it, i'll probably wait 2 years or more before purchasing a second hand 1660 or 1660ti/s
this happened to ram a few years ago where the prices went up to crazy amounts with scalpers however they've gone back to normal recently, maybe this will happen to the graphics cards
I got a GTX 1060 a couple years ago knowing it wasn't the most powerful card out there, and that it was already outdated. But I knew what types of games I wanted to play, and a card that is 'good enough' was better than what I previously had, which was nothing at all (aka Intel Integrated Graphics). New tech is always neat to see, but what users really want is exactly what you're saying; a card that is good enough and lets them do the things they hope to do on their computer. Good video!
What we REALLY need is a strong apu for desktop that has at least 6 core 12 threads and a strong integrated gpu similar to the consoles. Imagine a 300$ 5400g 🤔🤔🤔
jokes on you, I wish I could buy ANY card at any of my local/online stores. 2021, for those who thought shit can't get any more depressing than 2020.
I bought a used RX580 4gb for 85e a few months ago and it's been a blast! The quality upgrade from my old R7 260X is insane, and for such a small price, it was a steal!
We needed something like this
me living and thinking everything computer related will be a lot cheaper in 5 years so i can have a relatively good gaming setup by 2020's standards
I agree. GPUs today are marketed and sold to gamers at horrible prices, yet we still eat them up. any card can run any game at 1080p still but we always want more. i think consumers are to blame for this as well. we do not need 4k 60fps ray tracing at max right now. we need a 150-200 dollar card that runs EVERY game excellently at 1080p
edit: they're also ripping everyone off with their HORRIBLE Vram amounts. come on nvidia, we all know 4gb is barely enough these days.
Yeah hope fully the 3050/3050ti has 6-8 gigs of vram maybe even 10
I feel this so much... I got myself a used GTX 970 in 2017, and even though my budget is bigger today, I still cannot find a card for a reasonable price that gives me a reasonable increase in performance.
It's 2023, and the $199 dream has almost been. The ARC A750 the RX 6600. The former can be had for as low as $199 and the latter being available $209 at the time of speaking, which is close enough. Both have RT support and FSR/Xess upscaling. Raw performance is a leap, too, with the RX 6600 being about twice the performance of the 480. They're five years apart, so it's not mindblowing, but it's still a lot. The only problem is that the RX 6600 is a last-gen product and that ARC A750 is a first-gen product that lacks mature drivers and Intel-optimized games.
Not gonna lie, I'm pretty excited for next gen. RX 8000 series and Intel ARC Battlemage, specifically. With chiplet development maturing more and more in AMD, alongside Intel committing to low prices, the low- to mid-range GPU market could become so competitive that even Nvidia might start thinking twice about their pricing. We'll probably not see a $199 card at release, but it could be pretty damn close. But we'll have to see.
$200* GPU
* - Actually $400++ because miners and supply issues
all those stupid people mining for emeralds while they can scam villagers with their own culture
GPU manufacturer need to realise, when theor primary customers can‘t buy GPU‘s (price or availability), people will turn away from gaming. After that, scalpingwill brake away and no market will be left.. it should be in their interesst to fight scalpers and to have fair(ish) prices
I'm not entirely convinced about the excuses being trotted out with regard to shortages. A big factor could be the absence of brick and mortar opportunities to offset the scalpers. Originaly once the initial seller got their money they could have cared less about the cards destination but now they can see that these scalped prices are being met they too have jacked up their prices. Like you say this could ultimately kill the market for gaming GPU's. That would be bad news for customers and companies alike.
EDIT:
Just checked a couple of sites with regard to GPU pricing. Lets just say the only way I'm going to get a current gen card is if I set my own bot onto the problem. F*ck that.
The music is iconicc
Preach, it’s hard as hell getting decently priced cards these days! I’m still trying to ride this crazy market out, hopefully to finally buy my first dedicated gaming PC. ;-;
Finally, someone fucking said it.
GDDR6 being 11.5$ per gb and gpus having 12GB of VRAM killed the 200$ GPUs. GDDR5 in 2014-2017 was 5.5$ per GB and the rx 480 had 4GB of GDDR5, that's 22$ for VRAM. The rtx 3060 has 12GB of GDDR6, which's 138$ just for VRAM. Why did ram stop getting cheaper with new technologies and process nodes?
Also, Intel and Nvidia for the past 10-11 years and AMD for the past 3 years have been milking us.
And no during the hd 4000 series, the best GPU from AMD was the hd4870 and it was 200$. The hd 6870 for 200$ played everything at the time at 1080p and in 2012 after AMD cut the prices a 200$ hd7870/7850 played everything at 1080p ultra at the time. HD5770 was great too and it wasn't even 200$ iirc.
I heard nvidia is going to release a 6 gig model of the 3060 like what they did with the 1060 how it had 2 versions if that’s the case the wouldn’t the 3060 6gig fit in that 270-280 dollar price range at the expense of 6gigs of vram?
@@jackandeson6302 well 6GB of VRAM is 69$, so 330$ - 70$ is 260$.
And 12GB of VRAM is way too much, people think that games really need that much VRAM just because most current/modern video game engines buffer the VRAM and it says that the game is consuming a lot of VRAM when in reality the game is actually reading and writing on 1/3rd of what the usage is.
good video and god tier title :)
phillip you scare me, each tought that i have you seem to have it at the same time.
its wierd thinking about something for weeks and then seeing a video about just that. seeing the rtx 30s launch and noticing, hey i dont have anything to buy its either full blast or nothing.
thanks for making this video