OSU Insider: Former Players Go CRAZY Reacting To LOSS
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Two guys, after the dog walking, trying their best to polish a turd.
Trevor Keegan, the Michigan OL, said that when the game started the OSU defense was yelling at them, by the middle of the third quarter, they were yelling at each other.
Those 5 star players aren't football players, they quit......
You Buckeye folks act like Ohio State didn’t tear down the “Go Blue” banner in the 70s with respect to planting the flag.
After Mike Sainristil knocked that pass away in the endzone and went to the sideline and jumped up on the bench and pointed across the field to the ohio side and was yelling to his teammates "They're quitting..look over there, look in there eyes they're quitting" at that point it was Game Over!!!
Excellent analysis and spot on insight. Well said.
That was the moment he became a legend to me. I'll remember his speech on that bench the rest of my life
@@benbred79 is there a video of it??
@@jamesbowen8960 I don’t think I agree the 06 Michigan team was better. Not saying they weren’t good. You’ll see more O lineman from this team in the nfl than that one. For sure the receivers were better. I’ll take McCarthy over Henne, who was neither able to run nor terribly intelligent. You can’t beat our current special teams. I could go on. Above all, this team is more of a team. Don’t forget, this 06 contingent contains a lot of the same prima donnas that led us to a loss against App St the following year
@@jeffreymartens1963 I never said anything about the 06 team having a better D or team, at least I don't think I did. I was agreeing with the person who was referring to Sanristil.
Go Blue
OSU did lock the gates “they told Michigan that now it’s our time to feast” Michigan players looked back and said “you think we are locked in here with you? Nah…YOU ARE LOCKED IN HERE WITH US!” The Hunter became the hunted🤷♂️
All those 5 star players on Ohio State is great, but they are pampered in high school, they don't have to work, struggle and fight. Give me the 3 star with heart and guts.
Honestly this series ebbs and flows back and forth. One squad dominates then the other dominates. The pendulum is CLEARLY swinging back to Michigan. Harbaugh is in a groove and it's not stopping anytime soon.🔥🏈
It snows in Ohio too. Why the weather excuse so often?
Michigan Alumnus here. I agree that planting the Michigan flag at the 50 yard line at the Shoe was not a classy move. I was surprised that no Buckeye player intervened.
What I find interesting is that you felt that tearing down the “Go Blue”banner at the Big House was OK. 19:30
Marvin Harrison Jr first drop against Michigan must have been scared of that blue
Michigan fan here!
This is why I am so comfortable with Michigan's approach to NIL. No promises of money up front. Players have to EARN it. I know, sounds ridiculous right?! Imagine having to earn your 💰🤑 on the college field.
Michigan is finding guys with heart that are getting snubbed by the OSU's of the world as recruits. Ronnie Bell, Rod Moore, Mike Saintristil, Luke Schoonmaker, Mike Morris, Micheal Barrett, D.J. Turner II, and Colston Loveland were all three stars. Hassan Haskins was too.
You don't build culture with a roster full of five stars looking for a pay day.
Well said.. ][V][ GO BLUE!
Just saw that Cade is gonna end up at Iowa. Honestly, I'm so glad he didn't go to MSU or Ohio - not just because I'd hate to root against whatever team he plays on, but because Iowa also has that kind of mental toughness (even though the offense has always been shit, but that's actually not a culture problem for once - that's SOLELY on Kirk's shoulders).
@@spdcrzy Yeah, they could be dangerous next year if they have a defense and running game of any kind.
@@freeheeler00 And if Cade improves even a little bit over last year, Iowa is gonna be a BITCH for next year's Big Ten matchups. Thank GOD we're not playing them in 2023, because their defense is just like ours and it would be a python vs python game of attrition.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
Good luck this year, Nutters. See you in Ann Arbor in a couple months. Should be a GREAT game.
Go Blue!
There's a roster full of primadonnas that are here for the draft pick possibilities, and not for the Team, Tradition or for the Love. That's a coaching issue.
Oddly Urban’s championship team had less 5 stars. Just saying. Recruiting is important, but you can’t just recruit the lists. TTUN took a whole lot of guys from Ohio in their recruiting class. We’re going down south for more 5 stars receivers. Let’s see how it works.
Coaching and recruiting. Day shouldn't just recruit talent, he should also be recruiting loyalty, teamwork and commitment.
Development. Michigan won the natty with 2 5 stars. That’s called development.
Hey, great commentary. I'll lay it out plain. Winning went to the coach's head. Day is not Urban Myer, and he did not build the teams that came before his tenure. There's more than one way to play and win the game of football. Ohio State is stuck in one gear, assuming that they are going to win--using the same offensive strategies that have been mostly successful for about a decade. Well, Michigan has figured them out. Without a stout running game, Ohio State is a bag of wind that thinks it is going to win by "Tyson" effect, just by walking on the field. Ohio State is still a good team. They only lost 1 game for crying out loud, but as long as they think they can just air raid Michigan, Michigan will continue to beat them.
You didn't mention the WEATHER at the shoe, lol, always about the weather with you guys. You're gonna thump us based on 50° weather. Whatev
TJ had it right, NO HEART
BTW, Tommy Eichenberg is a Dawg - a shame he's the only one.
Michigan absolutely has stars on this team, they just aren't all skill position. Best center in football. Best field goal kicker. Great Secondary and inside linemen. Great TEs. Great RBs just injured. BEST OFFENSIVE LINE IN FOOTBALL
what showed me OSUs players dont care for the team is when Njigba opted out of the playoff along with treyveon henderson. Will Anderson jr and Bryce Young are playing in a meaningless bowl game while njigba is worried about his draft stock. If we had OSUs talent at Michigan we curb stomp UGA and Bama.
I’m sir Santonio Holmes did plant the Ohio State flag at Michigan
It was a great Michigan win.
There was, and has been, no sense of urgency ALL year!...im one of the biggest Buckeye fans ever....I have a terrible week when and if they don't win!... but, a lot of the games were boring because they're just walking around!.... maybe that's the " no heart" issue....but there's WAY too much talent for this team to not have urgency, and the want to impose what will we have on our opponents!!!
OSU didn't have killers. They've had pretty boys for a few years. All about image. Not going to work.
People obviously did not know about 1973 when OSU players tore down the Xichigan banner in Ann Arbor. Yes, Woody's team at the Big House tore down their banner. Talk about disrespect. I would not do that and I am a Buckcye fan. I would also not plant my flag onto the enemy's field.
A Dastardly act!
The Michigan offensive linemen are assassins and have a predatory mentality. They are the toughest, strongest badasses on the team
If anything the early announcement to the NFL just shows that YOUR MIND ISNT ON THE TASK AT HAND!!
ohio drops one game this year Ann Arbor will be a mental beat down again!
What happened? A butt kicking in the trenches is what happened
Jim Harbaugh is one tough SOB. Ryan Day is not. Jim Harbaugh wants to punch you in the mouth. Ryan Day wants to play flag football. Jim Harbaugh wants to win. Ryan Day wants to play hide and seek. And you wonder why OSU can’t win the big one?
ITS GREAT TO BE CHAMPION WOLVERINES!
Not only were there cameras everywhere, but he headbutted the other guy with the official right next to him.
And a rematch is on the table! Four possibilities now: M wins round 1 & faces Georgia; O wins and faces TCU; Neither wins and we both have a long off season; or the Rematch of the Century!
It’s going to be fun, and bragging rights hang in the balance. Good luck, Ohio Walnuts - you’re going to need it!
Legend has it that Ryan day has the playbook from the water boy
Your over analyzing, It's simple. Last year it was too cold This year it was too warm. Check the Farmer's almanac so they can make the correct adjustment for next tear!
I don't get the freak out over Michigan planting the flag at midfield. If Ohio State did that after a big win in A2, I'd be like, well they earned it! They won. I don't see the disrespect, I see the pride in the win! How many photos of US Troops standing up the American Flag after brutal battles? I think it's soft to complain about it, to be offended by it. If you don't like it, win "The Game"!
Michigan fan here, a real fan. I don’t count UM beating interim Luke Fickell and I sure as hell don’t “vacate” the Pryor year. So you guys had us, in my mind, what? 18 yrs straight or something like that. On a side note, Caleb Williams penned “F U C K - U T A H” on his knuckles before losing to Utah tonight. Are we really giving the Heisman to that guy, much less after a blowout loss? I’m sure I could Google it, but when’s the last time the Heisman winner had two losses without a conference title? Corum, CJ, hell Harrison Jr. now has a better claim to the Heisman than Caleb Williams…
I think it was done because we have to stir back up the rivalry. We have to remind how much we hate each other. That flag is the museum now and rightfully so. If you come down next year and plant a flag or do something after kicking our ass then so be it but you know we ain't just going to take it and rivalry is back in full heated mode where players are salivating to hit each other. This rivalry needs another 10 year war!
You dont want them planting the flag on the block O?? THEN DONT LET IT HAPPEN BY BEATING THEM!
As a Michigan fan I love the salt
I just don’t see this getting fixed. It’s really hard to change such a mindset.
I don't see stroud being a big game QB, play calling or not I believe we'll be fine without him
@@lannyseals2084 yep, ended a QB that can run!!
@@lannyseals2084 it seems like things came too easy for Day, and he has told CJ that things will come easy for him too. Just pass, pass, pass, and it will all work out fine. They took it to the extreme. Sometimes you have to show leadership and run when nothing else will work!
I totally agree!!
Took Harbaugh 5 years to fix it in Michigan, and he is a much bigger personality and better coach than Day
"I never thought about planting the flag cuz you had to see those guys next year. Why would you ever do something that stupid?"
"Santonio Holmes dusted that M off tho hahaha"
"He's just a different cat"
I don't think there is a more hypocritical fanbase in America
Ryan Day/Knowles deserves some criticism. As a Wolverine fan, they showed complete lack of respect for the ability of a 5 star QB in JJ, zero coverage with safeties and going all out on the run etc. was terrible. Hickman got destroyed multiple times. You guys are soft. You went all out on the run got destroyed and then got beat on the long bomb.
Kirk enjoyable presentation Thanx
You guys really don’t make any sense. Criticize the oline for not being tough:
RBs averaged 5.7 yards per carry.
CJ had all day to throw.
What does toughness have to do with blown coverages?
What does toughness have to do with the busted runs due to Uber aggressive play-calling?
What does toughness have to do with dropped passes?
Only thing that showed a lack of toughness (mentally) was Gee Scott’s dumb penalty. And they took a 1st and 35 to 4th and 5 after a dumb run play on first. Team wanted to go for it.
All of the issues were due to coaching and execution. Anyone talking about toughness can’t formulate a coherent thought based on actually game play.
Michigan had mind-f’d OSU fans and has them repeating their language it’s hilarious to me because it’s clear the fans are soft.
Tell your band to stop taking cheap shots when we’re 500 miles away.
Go Blue 💙
Michigan fan - your defensive coach is just a different name then Michigan's defensive coach (Brown) from our past. The defense is great until big games. As long as he's defensive head coach your team is doomed.
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TRUTH: look at the first 3 games of OSU; the QB was hot. THen look at the last 5 games... Stroud was HORRIBLY off his game and distracted by personal issues. DAY, incapable of sound reasoning and good coaching decision making... KEPT Stroud and refused to 'replace him' 3 and 4 games ago.. which would have helped Stroud to get his life right and realize He was not the God of OSU at all.... plus, another QB could have ignited the offense with more consistent play. .. the clear writing was on the wall before Michigan entered the Shoe... Stroud was so messed up in his personal life and relationship; distracted, not focused and off... that another QB could have carried the day. THREE games before Mich. were won by the OSU defense, not Stroud at all For the Mich. side, they knew all they had to do was 'defeat OSU defense' and victory would be theirs... just that 1 thing only. .... OSU fans are both in denial of The obvious, Brian Day does not have the sound mind or reasoning to make right coaching decisions for OSU. He has repeatedly 'down played' other coaching staff warnings about Stroud. .. TWO years of losses to Michigan, WITH lose of national titles... are simply 'clear' that Day is Not capable. His first year He 'rode' the good building and leadership of his predecessor, but now the obvious is clear... OSU is 'declining' in every way... both in offensive lackluster, and in revenue. IN fact, did anyone NOTICE the super cold game before Mich..where the OSU bench players were 'disinterested, indifferent and Not motivated at all'... .many expected OSU to lose, but their defense won the day... barely... while the other team's bench were MOtivated, Active and charged to win......... Not ONE single sports person had the 'clear minded Integrity' to recognize OSU for the last 5 games as a team, and their QB... were simply low-balling their own game vitality and focus... WHY.. .because sports announcers get bonuses and more pay to 'hype' OSU even when for 5 prior games they were POOR in Offense.... the stats from first 3 games to last 5, as averages, are very clear. The Sports Talkers BETRAYED the OSU fans, and blinded the coaching staff into error.... for money and to promote game revenues over the 'clear signs' that OSU offense was down in motivation, in focus, and in pay performance for five whole games....... now.. AGAIN... the Sports casters are LyING to us all... talking about STOUD and OSU as if they were really 'capable' for this coming game. It will be a bust, and a total route... OSU will 'at delayed long coming fact' be recognized as a NON_playoff level team.. and Day and his denying his own key couching staff of QB issues.. will have to answer for his 'selfish pride and blindness' to the sound coaching leadership that is lacking at OSU under Brian Day.
As a UM fan, I must say that you have little to complain about yet.
Strongly agree! IT'S GREAT TO BE A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!
Denzel Burke is afraid of contact, PERIOD. He just sux. No one who knows what they're watching thought this dude was good as a freshman.
I’ll also add in it’s nice to be on the good side of these convos. I remember so many times thinking how soft our team was, but Harbaugh has really changed the culture
Jaxon jaxed off. Your job just got more difficult.
If I were the coach Gee Scott would never wear the scarlet and grey again
Culture & toughness, 100%. No doubt all 5 OSU recruiting classes on that field were ranked significantly higher than their opponent. 2nd straight year with the better QB and vastly better WR core. Even worse result. Some disagree there was quitting involved, but it looked like it. Problem is guys coming to OSU excited about what OSU can do for them. NFL, NIL, etc. In the last 10 yrs how many NFL eligible guys came back to OSU like Hutchinson or Corum? This year is the first year I noticed significant numbers coming back that could have gone. There hasn't been the commitment to OSU and teammates vs self interest. Maybe that will change this year with the number of returners coming back w a chip on their shoulder. It won't be easy. Michigan returns most of their offense that looked really good at the end of the year less JJ's two pick 6's. They will likely be the most potent offense in the Big 10.
The problem is Ryan Day's bad coaching
Has college football become just a necessary stop before the NFL? What is the over/under on players who skip the bowl game? 8? 10?
College football has become corporate welfare for billionaires. Baseball team owners have to pay to develop their players through several levels of the minor leagues. Football team owners don't have to shell out a penny, those guys are ready to play in the NFL immediately.
Outed: out coached, out played, and out schemed.
Michigan hasn’t won there in 20 years. It was a reference to that.
Go get Mike Vrabel. Find a new strength coach. Michigan deserves credit, they came to play. Maybe we need to recruit more players who understand this rivalry instead of 5 star players from California.
Maybe be more concerned about technique instead of the accolades. When Heisman talk is 2nd on everyone of the buckeyes list of talking points then their priorities are clearly misplaced.
Any college scholarship athlete who “ refuses” or opts out of any bowl game needs to reimburse the school! Thats their JOB , especially when they’re now getting paid!
Man.. 0 gold pants, 0 B1G titles.. stroud was wasted.. think a lots on him to.
As a Michigan fan, I don't agree with planting the flag. It was disrespectful, and none of that should happen anywhere. I feel that you have to have that mindset in THE GAME for both sides. It's the greatest rivalry in CFB. Plain and simple the last 2 years Michigan has had that mindset, and I don't think OSU has had it for a while. Can't wait till next year, and wish OSU the best for 364 more days. Go Blue 〽️
They need to bring players lining up and shaking hands after the game… gracious in victory or defeat. Kids might learn something.
Take it easy little man daddy’s back
Tim Biakabutuka actually ran for 300+ yards
313 to be exact.
@@jamesbowen8960 and John Cooper at halftime said he was good, but not that good. I miss John Cooper. 😂
@@beedub93 I remember that quote!He said" Nah, he hasn't hurt us that bad!"😆😆😆😆
Wow that's crazy! CBs had Zero Ints?🤮
That's probably because they literally are never looking at the damn ball!
@ Chad,they need to watch some Denzel Ward videos. Soo many P.I.'s due to the DB not playing the ball.
It's kinda hard to get a pick when they are 10 yards from the receiver. Michigan receivers open all day. Go Blue
Someone changed Ryan Day’s birthplace to “3rd Base” on Wikipedia 😂😅😮
Michigan owns the Big Ten right now.
Who owned it the last 2 decades means 20yrs with 2 nattys and 8 championships
C.J. is very soft. Completely weak in the second half. The second half was Completely pathetic
The toughest one is 2 thumbs from Ohio state.
Our defensive backs has been a problem for years now!! It’s either players or the coaching
Before Ryan Day took over the head coaching job Ohio State had a balance offense.But now Ryan Day only care about passing the football.And the defense for one reason or another is a second thought with Ryan Day with recruiting
I agree!😃
You can't buy heart. As someone who lives in Ohio, there is nothing to do in this state unless you like boating. Pulling these 5* recruits away from their families as they are hoping to get a good draft pick can backfire. I realize this isn't an Ohio exclusive thing, but willpower is always the most important thing in a competition and you need to be healthy mentally, physically, and socially in order to perform at the top level consistently.
I think Ohio needs to get back to people that actually want to play for OSU, not "entitled" to. Aside from that, coaches need to find a way to get their players to care. OSU gave up on the batted away would-be touchdown catch. They ran the better route, made the better pass, but did not match up to the effort Michigan had.
Michigan fan here, get it together OSU!
Need the QB run game.
That is the difference. Stroud is allergic to running, and JJ McCarthy will run right at them.
Exactly right. By halftime, Michigan was absolutely 💯 that CJ wouldn’t run, no matter what, which made things much easier for their defense.
It truly is a must. Even the Georgia quarterback will run with the ball. USC quarterback is phenomenal running.
NIL has hurt college football in my opinion!
These guys should watch film of Archie Griffin against Schembegler's Michigan teams. The little guy took epic beatings but kept on going, over and over. I didn't see that spirit on Saturday.
OSU lost before kickoff…
Not sure what game you two were watching, but during opening ceremonies as Michigan was running out, the entire OSU team was flipping off Michigan.
OSU was wound too tight, and that’s on Day. It wasn’t that there was “no emotion”, it was the exact opposite. Mental state…
As a Michigan fan it's exactly how we felt over the years of 🚫hi🚫 kicking our ass every year felt like we didn't want it like yall did ..I want yall to get pissed off and bring it next year not rubbing it in ..just want yall at your best for the health of the rivalry
Strongly agree! IT'S GREAT TO BE A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!
@@joshuabennett8110 absolutely!! Who's got it better then us?!!
@@The-P-iz-Free It took awhile... but that now really makes sense!
Who cares if they're pissed off? They were pissed off Saturday and got bitch slapped. They can be as mad as they want to be. It has ZERO to do with what happens on the field. If they show up with the same team and gameplan next year they're gonna get bitch slapped again...
Both teams went through this and I saw a change in Michigan when 2 tough defensive ends made them change, Ohio state doesn't have an asshole to push these guys to get tougher
Wolverine fan here: I agree with TJ re: the flag plant. I can understand why it was done but I can't understand why a Buckeye didn't do anything about it. I expected a scene like when, was it Deon Sanders (?), did his stomping on the star after beating the cowboys. Nope, just kept walking away. I do have to point out that that is no worse than a coach saying he's going to "hang a 100" on a team that they know is way behind them in talent. So much crap has been slung by both programs over the years that no locker room bulletin board material is going to notch it up anymore than it already is. Personally, I love this rivalry. Especially when both teams are at the same level. Ya'll might not agree with me but I don't think it means nearly as much when one or the other is much worse because of talent, coaches or whatever. The last two years mean more to me because tOSU was at the top of heap. Last thing: Winning is earned, it's not a birthright. As players, you know exactly what I mean. Take care!
Desmond called out our OL at last year's Heisman show in front of Stroud's face in front of the world. How did our OL not show up breathing fire in this game?
Averaged 4.9 ypc… Oline was fine this year.
This was the biggest let down in a Ohio St vs Michigan game
I'm a Michigan fan and I have a great deal of respect for OSU program. I'm also old enough to remember the John Cooper Era and the change in the program since. OSU has one simple problem. They are not team first guys, plain and simple. A collection of stars is great and talent alone will win a lot of games but a true team with similar talent will overcome that. Ryan Day needs to figure out how to capture that magic and this team will be scary.
Good Post BTW - Ryan Day needs to be shown the door,no adjustments,no improvising no going deep on a beautiful day which was their bread and butter.Going away from the run.This is his 4th year - his team,his coaches and his plays & plan and he's crapped the bed big time. The offensive line was great so TJ is barking some bilge
Exactly what I've been saying
Look at the mass exodus from Texas A&M and Alabama, these kids want to play and NIL money creates new free agents every year!
@@Lofinity_1 are you a lampshade punk.blabbadblabuda - oh UofM Grad did you get your 9mm yet and the 3 magazines?how about a permit to carry or a drivers license?
RESPECT fr sleeznuts? Why?? Hire Cooper who ran a steroid prog at ASU! Hire known cheater at YTS and then puts sleeznuts on probation! Hire Urban who had more players arrested at Flor than any coach in hist! Had 2 coaches w Carlos Hyde deemed an illiterate by NFL! Woody fired fr PUNCHING a player! And you respect these sleeznuts!!! Prob w US today!!
Can we say this? Recruiting 5 star finesse skill players is not the same as recruiting 3, 4 star players and turning them into monsters. That's an attitude and coaching thing. Relying on those stars without coaching them up to an even higher level of skill and toughness is wasting those players. They're spoiled. The expectation has to be higher and the training has to be deeper. Simple as that. Between scrappy and tough and talented and skilled, which do you choose? Harbaugh chose scrappy and tough, but he had to because he couldn't get those 5 star players. Well, he's getting them now. OSU chose talented and skilled but forgot that this is still football and not pitch and catch ball.
JJ is probably a better QB than Chad Henne. He just hasn’t broken out yet
GO BLUE!!!!!!!! BACK 2 BACK BEATDOWNS
All these former players need to be showing up to camp with some knowledge and support for the CFP preparation!
It’s a country club culture that’s the problem Urban may have been a Dick but he got results
But you weren’t there and we did plant our “M” on your block “O”!!! Deal with it!
Out coached... out played... out classed...
Ryan Day lost the team on that decision to punt on 4th and 5..it was an opportunity to take control of the game, get the crowd into the game. Additionally it would have been great Heisman moment for Stroud. It is possible that the defensive lapses that occurred later might never have happened. Defense is 70% attitude....look how bad Tennessee played on defense against South Carolina ( bad defensive attitude and effort..to pitching a shutout the next week) same players but with a decided edge in attitude in the next game...Ryan Day personally failed to seize the moment!
It was a strategic decision to fake a punt. Which they tried but the long snapper got confused and didn’t follow through with it. That likely would have changed the whole game of successful.
@@yooperlite with a Heisman quarterback surely somebody has a go to play to put the ball in a playmakers hands . Okay he went with a fake. Can't Monday morning quarterback a professional coach,so it's just a bit of bad luck
The defensive play on 3 and 4 in the endzone with 7.33 left in the game changed the game totally.
Great points fellas! You’re spot-on in your assessments of “todays” Buckeyes. We treat these MEN like Joe Superstar since their high school signing. 25k social media fans slobbering all over them, endorsements, etc. What’s missing? HEART and DRIVE! Not every incoming Buckeye has those things in their blood. So who’s responsible for injecting those things in their blood? The COACHES!! I’d be willing to bet most of these hotshot players from outta town think Woody refers to the practice field.
They're slowly being NFL Diva-fied
@@cliffnasa3560 Absolutely agree! NIL will make it worse as they wont be as hungry as the past.
So what happened in the last 2 decades of tuff and drive. OSU won 2 nattys and 8 championships. Your tuff team 2 championships. Need to say more about your tuffness???
@@anthonydidonato7692 Interestingly, NIL has also only been around for a couple years. That could be a major issue, as others have noted. Day has also only been around a few years, that's probably part of the problem. And extended success can make teams (etc.) softer over time.
OSU and UM are both great programs with extensive historical success. I'm sure OSU will get past this current lag at some point, it's only a question of when. But the point is that at this specific point in time, something is missing in their biggest games. (And Michigan appears to have a better mindset, at least for the rivalry game. Especially when you factor in OSU's talent/recruiting advantage.)
Did other people watch a different game? I thought the OSU players played great. Both sides of the ball. I saw 2 Michigan tds where the scheme dared McCarthy to throw and had nobody behind the receiver because of pass rush. How is that the players fault? I saw two Donavan Edward's tds where Michigan's Remington-worthy center made a spectacular block and the defensive scheme had nobody in the secondary. How is that the fault of the OSU players?
I'm not a coach but I've never heard of a scheme where nobody is within 10 yards of a receiver. Think they were in man coverage at that time. Maybe they shouldn't have been in man but we haven't beaten anybody deep all year. Not the coach's fault.
Michigan fan here. I agree it was coaching. Talent wise, the teams appeared fairly even, Ohio State might have an edge. But coaching was like night and Day.
Even in the first half, I thought OSU schemes were overplaying their hand and allowed Michigan to stay close.
My exact point - no wonder the players were demoralized. I have never seen such a poor coaching job at the college level, and this in the biggest game of the year! The coaching the coaching the coaching that was the difference. And don’t think recruits didn’t see that….
It's hard to carry all those (5) stars around. All the NIL money in your pockets slows you down. Michigan won with 3 and 4 star players. Michigan has won the second half against all the teams they played. Less than 3 points a game in the second half the last 6 games. Fack. Go Blue!!
Urban Meyer: A TEAM of great players.
Ryan Day: A COLLECTION of great players.
Coach Day needs to up his psychological game!
Can Day change his personality? Obviously not.
I’m not sure he’s Head Coach material.
@@mybrotherkeeper1484 Agreed. I guess the hope is he'll grow as a leader. Some have done it.
Dudes, it's simple. OSU used to have boss linebackers that punished the run. I can't think of a standout defensive player on the roster. Defense wins championships. Period, Exclamation Point.
The Game is”sissified?”
The University didn’t look sissified, right? 🏈😎
We are not hungry enough!
A culture of pride and toughness (mental) has to start with the head coach. Ryan Day’s a nice guy, but he gets flustered under pressure, and he either doesn't know how to game plan or lacks the courage and fortitude to stick with that plan for 4 quarters.
That's the issue they made no second half adjustments, Michigan made numerous adjustments. Unless their second half adjustments were to no longer run the football
I’m a lifelong UM fan. I’ve watched this rivalry for 40 years. OSU punches you in the mouth. Period. First snap. That’s the OSU I’ve watched. They are tough, physical, and full of pride. Team. That mindset doesn’t seem to exist right now. The game plan was terrible. OSU got away from everything they do, in some effort to beat Michigan at their own game. Last year’s game got into the coaching staff’s head, and they tried to out slam UM. That team isn’t built that way. It’s built on finesse. As soon as I seen the cover zero scheme, I knew it was over. Don Brown (former DC) at Michigan had us in that nonsense. It’s great when you are head and shoulders better physically. These two programs are closer than that. No one could have survived that scheme. Next year will decide Ryan Day’s fate. Fair or unfair. Great show guys. Great breakdowns of the non measurable’s. GO BLUE!