The CU2 Luxury is one of the best looking stock sedans ever made. The sound system is incredible too. Shame there wasn't a turbo or V6 option in Australia.
I just bought my 1st cu2 today and wow it is bloody nice. I was afraid it was going to be abit small inside (I'm 5ft 11 and quite a big fella) and I was pleasantly surprised about how much room there was in both the front and rare seats. The rare seats do look small but when I sat in them it felt very comfortable with adequate leg room. The cabin is so quiet and road noise is barely there. I have the 5sp auto with paddle shifters and man it can go! I made a decision to either get a car for long trips and work OR to add a few mods. Once I realized my bank account was laughing at me I opted for the less tunable option. Throttle response does feel abit laggy but after checking airfilter it looked like it had been sitting in years worth of poop so I'm off to repco for a new filter. Hopefully that will help. Your videos are great. Straight to the bloody point - EXACTLY how kiwis are. Non of this 30mins of rambling to share 2mins of the info you actually need, so well done mate! Legend.
I have both a CU2 & CL9 both with 6MT in stock form. I suppose without the mods on the CL9, the CU2 is much faster and drives better then a CL9:) A great video and spot-on commentary, keep up the great work!
In stock form I'd still go for the cu2 ,it's a lot of car for the money here in South africa , manual also is hard to find and has really cool features that I wish my type S had , the cl9 was a cheeky honda sedan built for guys that had no choice but to put on a facade that they've grown up , but haven't. Either way if you own any of these , you're a happy boy regardless. Awesome content keep it up.
literally found a 7th gen accord , petrol+lpg 700€ only , 131k km on odo.. it looks so well preserved in the inside as well.. whats the deal... im paranoid that its so cheap .. i think the guy cant get rid of it because its Petrol+LPG gas .. noone generally keen on buying things like that, i dont know anything about cars.. but i dont think u can make it a project car.. to me personally, i dont feel safe gas tank inside my car rofl,
Great video as always! I had to convince my wife to let me get a manual Euro for the family car after falling in love with Honda’s again once I bought my Integra weekender. I picked the CU2 in a six speed manual after driving both but have lived to regret it. Things brilliant to drive but you really notice the extra weight in and out of corners.
Great video!! In the CU2s defence the boot was fully loaded and my DIY intake may not be fabricated too well - but ali express is slow unfortunately! 😊 - That unpredictable throttle responses is most definitely my PVC intake 😂😂😂
7th gen looks so timeless with a good bodykit i found a 2006 , with ONLY 131k km on odo.. the problem is its petrol+LPG ... so its basicly worthless .. ? ive never heard of anyone having a project car based on petrol+lpg gas rofl....
@@chrisskelly6408 no it\s not .. gas ruins pistons ,unless ur fixing ur car urself.. fcking up ur engine with gas pff... i can guarantee , if i go look at the lpggas accord, its so cheap, cuz the engine is fcked up from all the gas usage there's no otherway anyone would sell 2006 accord wich looks in very good shape and has only 161k km on odo for 700€
@@KiwiCarLife best car chase movie because of those Nzd roads. First time I saw it I was 9 and watched it close to 10x since then lol. "Open it up Casey" and guy takes off fkn exaust 😄.
Great VID! I used to have a CL9 till last month - AUS delivered - before jumping onto grs184 Crown, owned for about 5 and a half years. CL9 is certainly a great car. Good build quality, quite a timeless design and a decent performance - certainly not considered 'fast' but overall a great daily vehicle. Nowadays in Aus the import regulation got lifted up hence We get to import CL7 - starting from $20K AUD ish so once those CL9 owners chase those EuroRs, I might slide in and pick up another CL9, this time for a weekender car XD
Yeah nice, 20k for a euro r is totally not worth it tho. Can build a cl9 up to that kind of performance for half that. Just need a type r gearset, lsd, headers, cai and tune and you're basically there
Thx for the video mate ! I have personaly owned all accord cars (Europe) since the 91 model with the best engine each time, also a ATR 99. I for sure much prefer the cu2 than the cl9. I owned them both in 2.4L 6mt, never modified them, only put some good tires and 17" wheels on it. 12 years with à 2009 cu2 and i swear it is a much better car. Enjoy your H gentlemen.
I have a Cl9, cl7 & cl9 are very popular on our place. One of the reason is they have aftermarket . The accord euro, type s is easy to keep in repair . P.s. I live in HK
@@KiwiCarLife Thank you. A reply from you means alot. The car was purchased one year ago stock in mint with 65k on the clock. Have huge plans for it. Only mods are intake and swap of stereo to kenwood touch screen. It was expensive endeavour and those funds could have been utilised way better lol. Edit sound system swap was nuts. Most audio engineers won't touch it. But the intake from ebay was straight forward.
@@KiwiCarLife Meh, it's pretty slow to react. At least it is on my CU1, which I think is 99% the same AT. What I dont like about the S-mode is that you can't really put it into S at higher speed. As it's limited to 1-2-3 before putting it into sequential mode (flipper pedal). So when you put it into S, to go to the sequential mode, it downshifts to 3 and revs like mad. I don't understand why S couldn't just be sequential mode, and whatever gear it is in for D, was what it went to in S.
Hello from Ukraine:) well, you doin a great job making such a good videos. And I like your Euro-R rocket. I just bought CL9 Exec black colored in 4/5 condition, 2006 yr, but 155k km. We do not have 7 gen Type-S or Euro-R here in at least 4/5 condition and for the true price. But I think I get it run smoothly and later install type-s lips etc and rear blade small spoiler. It will look much better in that:))
I have a 08 CL7 and my friend has a 09 CU2, oddly enough we are both at 170K at the moment. While the CU2 interior is nicer my friends interior is literally falling apart. The armrest leather has a huge hole in it. Also his door panels where you rest your arm at is basically gone lol. The leather is more supple in the CU2 but I really question the durability.
I was cross-shopping the cl9 and cu2 here in the states. I was leaning more towards the cl9 bc i like more "sporty" Honda like driving. But eventually got the cu2 for the exact points you mentioned. Its more luxury and better for daily driving and still has a fun factor for sure. 6spd ofc.
I drive a 2011 CU2 manual and love it. Should probably treat it better than i do. It has 180k on the ODO and never had an issue outside a light bulb change and some of the undercarriage plastic coming loose.
I drive a CU2 Type S manual :) Thinking about a reflash but keeping it stock for now. Which does 7.9sec even without intake. Throttle response is consistent for me but short of the drive by cable Hondas. Handling is superb for that kinda car. 235 tires also help. Nice video.
@@chrisskelly6408 yeah will be interesting to see if there's any improvement... can agree at high rpms it felt a little choked, whereas my cl9 revs very freely and makes power right to 8k
Uhm, I think you could've elaborated a lot more on the engine side of things. Because the K24Z3 is a serious downgrade from the K24A3. With the Z3, Honda moved to the "headifold" design, meaning the exhaust manifold is ingrated into the head, and will immediately be a bottleneck if you want it to breathe better. Secondly, the K24A3 has VTEC on the exhaust, whereas the Z3 doesn't. The Z3 is DOHC, but it only has single-lobe cams, and there is no VTEC camlobes. The K24A3 has 3 lobe cams on the exhaust with VTEC. The tuning potential of the K24A3 therefor over 300hp built. You can forget getting anything extra out of the K24Z3 without a turbo, which it is made for basically. Honestly, a 6000-7000rpm turbo engine isn't really anything other than the competition. Which is why the screaming K-engines died with the headifold. EDIT: Oh, halfway through the video you talked about it again. Oh well. Ill leave it up for reference sake.
He said all that already bro. It’s obvious if you want power and want to modify to 300hp go with the cl9 if you want to go luxury from a-b with a bit of pop and sound go with the cu2
I'm going to collect a cl9 exe (2007) at sunday :) (now I have a cl7 2.0 155ps). First it will be reflashed, the next step is change the header. A can not wait :DDDD
@@KiwiCarLife than maybe get a civic ep3 type-r transmision with the cl9 final drive, lighter flywheel and lighter wheels (stock 17" wheels are too heavy)
Here in Ireland I have a 2012 Honda Accord type-s 2.2 idtec 180bhp stock and is call a cu3 cos it’s diesel on like the cu2 2.4 petrol is 198bhp all do thinking of getting a remap in it but don’t want to do any damage to the engine in the long run but will be getting a few mods for it alright. good video’s man keep it up good work..
From South Africa, I drive a Cu2 automatic. Great pull away. Great car, but very fragile front bumper for such a big car. Infact I'm having it readjusted this Wednesday.
@@KiwiCarLife. Have you bothered to check before you kinda like to ridicule me? If you did, you would soon see that it is held together by flimsy clams especially in the middle section and that consistently driving over speedbumps, we have plenty in SA, makes the bumber sagg especially around the lights part. I spoke to the guys at Honda, and they admitted, that it is a weak spot on the Cu2.
@@donovanhendricks2218 well I mean it’s a logical conclusion to come to? Generally if a bumper needs readjusting it’s because it’s either been removed and not put on properly, or smacked into something. I’ve worked at a car dealer for 5 years so believe me I know! But yes I did have to put some blocks under the bumper supports on my CL9 just to lift it up slightly. Hopefully they can get yours sorted 🤞
@@KiwiCarLife. I'm driving my third Cu2 now. It has a high resale value depending on gas price flactuations in my country. The middle section of the bumber at the bottom of the headlights have plastic mountings on each side. They literally split in half with the back part attached to the body. I reattach it using long drywall screws. The clips at the end of the bumper stays in place perfectly, except for the middle section. Just thought I should share.
I notice you've changed the stock intake -resonator tube for a short ram. How's that going? worth changing it over stock -tube? Would you go CAI if doing it again or something else? Thanks
I just made the intake by cutting up the cheap simota one I bought for my CD5 to fit my CL9... One day I'll probably get a better setup, just wanted more noise for the meantime
I own an exquisite cw3 2008 executive 2.2diesel mapped ~200hp. It is tbh the best Honda i have owned, although it is Still plagued with the fault all My 7 Hondas have gotten.. front right lower ball joint is useless. Other than that im looking to install some airride kits, have you got any suggestions for a Good One?
Nah CU4 was only available in the states as an Acura TSX - we got the us body Accord V6 too so there was no need for an accord euro v6 and an accord v6
What are the differences in automatic transmissions for both these cars? Are they still CVT's? I recall someone at the Honda dealership tell me that the CL9 transmission was not a CVT, and I have not been able to find much info online
@@KiwiCarLife I could find some at similar price point and sometimes the CL9 is a bit more expensive than the CU2, whereas CU2 is the one that came out later
@@The_Noticer. as far as I'm aware pfl and fl tsx has a2 but the fl ones have a bigger cam and better intake manifold or something, hence why they make more power
Cl9 has vtec on both intake and exhaust side and 4 separate exhaust ports going into a 4-1 header, cu2 has vtec only on intake side and has a collector style header where all 4 ports go into one outlet, rather than remaining separate and getting collected in the header. In essence the cl9 engine is more desirable for tuning
First, sorry for my english 😄 iam from Croatia and my english its not so good. I see you video and its verry great ! I have the Accord Cl 9 AT and Cu2 AT For my has the CL a timeles Design and give you mutch more fun to drive. The Cu2 is havier and biger and you feel that. But the cu2 Engine its Stronger, the suspension give you mor stability when you drive 200km/h + on the german Autobahn. 👍👌💪🏻😎 The Conception in Cu its mutch mor bether for the CL. Conception Highway Zagreb to Zurich max 130km/h: Cl9 = 8.5L /100km CU2= 7.2 /100km So witch one is bether ? i dont know ! I Love my cars same ♥️ I think the Cu2 its betther for Highway and German Autobahn ! The CL its bether in the City and when you driving to Alps.
Yeah would agree with that... stock cl9 vs stock cu2 (both auto) I'd take the cu2. It's more stable, has more power, more comfort and features. But manual vs manual I'd have a cl9. More sporty and lightweight chassis with more engine potential
Are you sure the problem is with the throttle of the CU2? Because the CU2 has a very unsmooth torque curve, peaks and dips all over the shop (due to crappy head/cam setup). The torque curve of the K24Z is nothing like the K24A....
@@KiwiCarLife yeah but your cI9 had headers also which gave you that slight advantage. I own a 2011 accord euro cu2 luxury and although I like the earlier editions like the cI9 I prefer the cu2,the refinements are so much better. But if you had bone stock both cars the cu2 would have the slight advantage with power but it’s really negligible to be honest. The gear ratios in my cu2 are better than the earlier versions like you said. Each to their own I guess,both cars are awesome and I believe the best 4 door sports cars ever made. I have big plans for my K-24 z3,she is getting a built performance engine rebuild with supporting mods for 300 hp. That will be the limit though as you start having traction issues if you go over that 300 hp range unless you go all wheel drive which is more money than I can afford. Hey great channel anyway mate,love your videos. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
@@KiwiCarLife yes stock really??,,i dont belive it...you are young guy..i am old i see a lot of things you think i dcant see...proof it show me the truth
@@IrmanSarajlija let me be clear sir. The CL9 is lowered on Tein S-Tech lowering springs. The CU2 is completely stock ride height. Do not try to argue otherwise. What is your reasoning behind these cars being "too low" anyway? Do you think I should sell it and buy a CR-V instead?
Yo Man. Why would Acura allow such an ugly car to be sold? The 09+ models. It was all good until the 09 models. Who approved this garbage to the public? Wow
@KiwiCarLife not a chance. Are you trolling me? The third gen tsx is uglyyyy 🤮 Wow who approved that monstrosity? They need to get fired and never be allowed to design another car ever again. The whole team
I've got the 09 CU2 on 20s & bc racing coilovers. Even though the engine is 💯 stock goes great...handles amazing.. even on the 20s.. 245 up front and 275 on the back.. I say if this CU2 had some suspension work it would have been heaps better on the drive portion.. im all about the CU2.. great car!
The CU2 Luxury is one of the best looking stock sedans ever made. The sound system is incredible too. Shame there wasn't a turbo or V6 option in Australia.
Yeah I've heard the cu4 tsx with the v6 is a solid car
Why would u want a v6 accord?
@@EthanOtton200kw for a start haha
honda and luxury in the same sentence rofl... mkay
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj I agree the name is cringe. What is luxury to you then?
I just bought my 1st cu2 today and wow it is bloody nice. I was afraid it was going to be abit small inside (I'm 5ft 11 and quite a big fella) and I was pleasantly surprised about how much room there was in both the front and rare seats. The rare seats do look small but when I sat in them it felt very comfortable with adequate leg room. The cabin is so quiet and road noise is barely there. I have the 5sp auto with paddle shifters and man it can go! I made a decision to either get a car for long trips and work OR to add a few mods. Once I realized my bank account was laughing at me I opted for the less tunable option. Throttle response does feel abit laggy but after checking airfilter it looked like it had been sitting in years worth of poop so I'm off to repco for a new filter. Hopefully that will help. Your videos are great. Straight to the bloody point - EXACTLY how kiwis are. Non of this 30mins of rambling to share 2mins of the info you actually need, so well done mate! Legend.
Cheers man - right on the money... try to keep them short and sharp. Glad you're enjoying the CU2
what does CU2 exactly mean ?
I have both a CU2 & CL9 both with 6MT in stock form. I suppose without the mods on the CL9, the CU2 is much faster and drives better then a CL9:) A great video and spot-on commentary, keep up the great work!
Yeah all down to the ratios. But a cl9 responds better to mods and is faster so will always be better
In stock form I'd still go for the cu2 ,it's a lot of car for the money here in South africa , manual also is hard to find and has really cool features that I wish my type S had , the cl9 was a cheeky honda sedan built for guys that had no choice but to put on a facade that they've grown up , but haven't. Either way if you own any of these , you're a happy boy regardless. Awesome content keep it up.
Cheers man and yeah would agree with that
literally found a 7th gen accord , petrol+lpg
700€ only , 131k km on odo.. it looks so well preserved in the inside as well.. whats the deal... im paranoid that its so cheap .. i think the guy cant get rid of it because its Petrol+LPG gas .. noone generally keen on buying things like that, i dont know anything about cars.. but i dont think u can make it a project car..
to me personally, i dont feel safe gas tank inside my car rofl,
Hey! Fellow south african, im also debating myself with these two models of accord
Great video as always! I had to convince my wife to let me get a manual Euro for the family car after falling in love with Honda’s again once I bought my Integra weekender. I picked the CU2 in a six speed manual after driving both but have lived to regret it. Things brilliant to drive but you really notice the extra weight in and out of corners.
Nice man, yeah the CU2 makes for a good daily but it's certainly a hefty boi
Great video!! In the CU2s defence the boot was fully loaded and my DIY intake may not be fabricated too well - but ali express is slow unfortunately! 😊 - That unpredictable throttle responses is most definitely my PVC intake 😂😂😂
Yeah man, good to know! Will be interested to know if you notice a difference with the improvements down the line!
CU2 is the better car for sure! Had mine for yrs now...
7th gen looks so timeless with a good bodykit
i found a 2006 , with ONLY 131k km on odo..
the problem is its petrol+LPG ... so its basicly worthless .. ?
ive never heard of anyone having a project car based on petrol+lpg gas rofl....
@Microphunktv-jb3kj if it's manual that's sick, lpg way cheaper to run
@@chrisskelly6408 no it\s not .. gas ruins pistons ,unless ur fixing ur car urself.. fcking up ur engine with gas pff...
i can guarantee , if i go look at the lpggas accord, its so cheap, cuz the engine is fcked up from all the gas usage
there's no otherway anyone would sell 2006 accord wich looks in very good shape and has only 161k km on odo for 700€
Great comparison! Just got myself a CU2 TSX here in the states. absolutely love it!
Nice man
Watching you drive those roads makes me wanna watch "Shaker run " again.
Haha lol
@@KiwiCarLife best car chase movie because of those Nzd roads. First time I saw it I was 9 and watched it close to 10x since then lol.
"Open it up Casey" and guy takes off fkn exaust 😄.
Very well presented, you come across very calm and confident in your car knowledge. A pleasure to watch
Cheers man
Your CL9 looking good,Mine still stock for now.
Cheers man! Got a video coming out soon you like then - 6 mods for the biggest gains
I’ve had both. Can’t tell which I like better. Both were awesome.
I’d agree, CL9 better for mods, CU2 better out of the box
Great VID!
I used to have a CL9 till last month - AUS delivered - before jumping onto grs184 Crown, owned for about 5 and a half years. CL9 is certainly a great car. Good build quality, quite a timeless design and a decent performance - certainly not considered 'fast' but overall a great daily vehicle.
Nowadays in Aus the import regulation got lifted up hence We get to import CL7 - starting from $20K AUD ish so once those CL9 owners chase those EuroRs, I might slide in and pick up another CL9, this time for a weekender car XD
Yeah nice, 20k for a euro r is totally not worth it tho. Can build a cl9 up to that kind of performance for half that. Just need a type r gearset, lsd, headers, cai and tune and you're basically there
I agree. One in Aus at the moment. Might just get a CL9.
Great video mate, just a reminder have you found a prelude vtec to compare with your cl9 😂
I can't wait Cheers mate.
I do have a mate with one but he's blown his engine so maybe when he gets it up and running again I'll hit him up
Thx for the video mate !
I have personaly owned all accord cars (Europe) since the 91 model with the best engine each time, also a ATR 99.
I for sure much prefer the cu2 than the cl9. I owned them both in 2.4L 6mt, never modified them, only put some good tires and 17" wheels on it. 12 years with à 2009 cu2 and i swear it is a much better car. Enjoy your H gentlemen.
Nice man! For sure in stock form the cu2 is a nicer car, but the cl9 is definitely better if you want to mod it
I'll never get tired of this. 👍👍👍
Cheers!
Have you considered a final gear ratio adjustment for your cl9? It makes a huge difference for track racing and tight turns
Check the vid next week man!
@@KiwiCarLife Or, get gears from an EP3 K20A2, much better gearing than the CL9 K24 box
I have a Cl9, cl7 & cl9 are very popular on our place. One of the reason is they have aftermarket . The accord euro, type s is easy to keep in repair .
P.s. I live in HK
Nice yeah they're good
Have CU2 one of the last made in black with clear blinkers. But love the lighter old ones. Was always a fan of euro r spoon built.
Oh yeah nice the 2nd face-lift ones are nice
@@KiwiCarLife Thank you. A reply from you means alot. The car was purchased one year ago stock in mint with 65k on the clock. Have huge plans for it. Only mods are intake and swap of stereo to kenwood touch screen. It was expensive endeavour and those funds could have been utilised way better lol.
Edit sound system swap was nuts. Most audio engineers won't touch it. But the intake from ebay was straight forward.
@@SarahH0g4n haha nice, id recommend you get a reflash next
@@KiwiCarLife So very glad to get that recommendation from you. I thank you very much. Hitting past 7k will be breathtaking 😍
Any recommendations in Perth for the flash?
Love it. Thinking about buying CL9. Good work keep it up, wish you success
Cheers man, would recommend!
I have CU2 10’ AUT but i would love to try the manual version . For me D(normal) is grandfather mode, S better but not still not he best. Great video!
Cheers man, yeah the paddles work pretty good though
@@KiwiCarLife Meh, it's pretty slow to react. At least it is on my CU1, which I think is 99% the same AT. What I dont like about the S-mode is that you can't really put it into S at higher speed. As it's limited to 1-2-3 before putting it into sequential mode (flipper pedal). So when you put it into S, to go to the sequential mode, it downshifts to 3 and revs like mad. I don't understand why S couldn't just be sequential mode, and whatever gear it is in for D, was what it went to in S.
Fantastic video, I got the CU2 myself and I love it! Subscribed!
Very nice!
Terrific video, love the CL9!
Cheers man!
Hello from Ukraine:) well, you doin a great job making such a good videos. And I like your Euro-R rocket. I just bought CL9 Exec black colored in 4/5 condition, 2006 yr, but 155k km. We do not have 7 gen Type-S or Euro-R here in at least 4/5 condition and for the true price. But I think I get it run smoothly and later install type-s lips etc and rear blade small spoiler. It will look much better in that:))
Nice man! The lip kit and spoiler will make a huge difference im sure
You have great content, nice to seem some kiwi reviews with familiar roads. Thank you
Thanks man
I have a 08 CL7 and my friend has a 09 CU2, oddly enough we are both at 170K at the moment. While the CU2 interior is nicer my friends interior is literally falling apart. The armrest leather has a huge hole in it. Also his door panels where you rest your arm at is basically gone lol.
The leather is more supple in the CU2 but I really question the durability.
Really depends on how you look after it more than anything. I've seen ones with 250,000km and they're mint
@@KiwiCarLife While I do agree with you, the leather or pleather in those certain areas is paper thin.
I was cross-shopping the cl9 and cu2 here in the states. I was leaning more towards the cl9 bc i like more "sporty" Honda like driving. But eventually got the cu2 for the exact points you mentioned. Its more luxury and better for daily driving and still has a fun factor for sure. 6spd ofc.
Yeah good call
Saw myself in the intro lol. You finally made it happen! Great video as always.
Cheers man!
An accord 2.4 seems like a proper beast once modded up
Yeah man it's awesome
The K24Z3 is a shit engine to modify. Unless you boost it. You have to replace the head for a K24A2/A3 or K20A if you want to go NA.
I drive a 2011 CU2 manual and love it. Should probably treat it better than i do. It has 180k on the ODO and never had an issue outside a light bulb change and some of the undercarriage plastic coming loose.
That’s awesome man yeah they’re great cars
I dunno how I end up watching your vids... I'm driving a CN2!
I got a vid on that too
@@KiwiCarLife I'll go look - you've been coming up in my suggestions at random, love the vids so far!
Bruh I didn’t get a notification, good comparison
Cheers man! At least I upload at the same time every week haha
I drive a CU2 Type S manual :) Thinking about a reflash but keeping it stock for now. Which does 7.9sec even without intake. Throttle response is consistent for me but short of the drive by cable Hondas. Handling is superb for that kinda car. 235 tires also help. Nice video.
Yeah i think my DIY intake is actually slowing it down currently plus i had a boot full of stuff at the time!
@@chrisskelly6408 Guess that calls for an update on the 0-100 times. If I recall correctly both cars stock the CL9 is only 0.1 secs faster
@@knipsi22 Yeah it should be a bit faster than what it was, ill do some testing with the stock air box as my pvc one is jank
@@chrisskelly6408 yeah will be interesting to see if there's any improvement... can agree at high rpms it felt a little choked, whereas my cl9 revs very freely and makes power right to 8k
I had the cu2 here in Florida. 6 speed. Loved it
Lovely!
Awesome Video m8. CL9 all the way :)
Cheers brah
Uhm, I think you could've elaborated a lot more on the engine side of things. Because the K24Z3 is a serious downgrade from the K24A3. With the Z3, Honda moved to the "headifold" design, meaning the exhaust manifold is ingrated into the head, and will immediately be a bottleneck if you want it to breathe better. Secondly, the K24A3 has VTEC on the exhaust, whereas the Z3 doesn't. The Z3 is DOHC, but it only has single-lobe cams, and there is no VTEC camlobes. The K24A3 has 3 lobe cams on the exhaust with VTEC. The tuning potential of the K24A3 therefor over 300hp built. You can forget getting anything extra out of the K24Z3 without a turbo, which it is made for basically. Honestly, a 6000-7000rpm turbo engine isn't really anything other than the competition. Which is why the screaming K-engines died with the headifold.
EDIT: Oh, halfway through the video you talked about it again. Oh well. Ill leave it up for reference sake.
Really pays to watch the video before making comments... Cheers for the info though
He said all that already bro. It’s obvious if you want power and want to modify to 300hp go with the cl9 if you want to go luxury from a-b with a bit of pop and sound go with the cu2
I'm going to collect a cl9 exe (2007) at sunday :) (now I have a cl7 2.0 155ps). First it will be reflashed, the next step is change the header. A can not wait :DDDD
Nice! Would recommend both those mods as a starting point so good job
@@KiwiCarLife than maybe get a civic ep3 type-r transmision with the cl9 final drive, lighter flywheel and lighter wheels (stock 17" wheels are too heavy)
Got my CU2 Thursday last week. It’s from Japan
Nice
@@KiwiCarLife like how I got the car from Japan, can I change the audio system in the car from Japanese to English?
Here in Ireland I have a 2012 Honda Accord type-s 2.2 idtec 180bhp stock and is call a cu3 cos it’s diesel on like the cu2 2.4 petrol is 198bhp all do thinking of getting a remap in it but don’t want to do any damage to the engine in the long run but will be getting a few mods for it alright. good video’s man keep it up good work..
Cheers man, remap shouldn't do any damage to the engine, factory tunes are very conservative, a remap just makes the most of the factory parts
Ive been told not to with the diesel as the clutch just cant handle all the torque
absolutely love the cl9, when i first saw it and it's price tag I just needed to have it lol
They're epic man
Often wonder if your opinion would be the same in these review if you where driving both bone stock, what do you think?
Hmmm yeah would probably be different! One day maybe
Two great cars 🔥🔥
Indeed
Cool and nice video. I have a red Accord.
Cheers man, nice!
From South Africa, I drive a Cu2 automatic. Great pull away. Great car, but very fragile front bumper for such a big car. Infact I'm having it readjusted this Wednesday.
Fragile bumper? I think you must have hit something haha
@@KiwiCarLife. Have you bothered to check before you kinda like to ridicule me? If you did, you would soon see that it is held together by flimsy clams especially in the middle section and that consistently driving over speedbumps, we have plenty in SA, makes the bumber sagg especially around the lights part. I spoke to the guys at Honda, and they admitted, that it is a weak spot on the Cu2.
@@donovanhendricks2218 well I mean it’s a logical conclusion to come to? Generally if a bumper needs readjusting it’s because it’s either been removed and not put on properly, or smacked into something. I’ve worked at a car dealer for 5 years so believe me I know!
But yes I did have to put some blocks under the bumper supports on my CL9 just to lift it up slightly. Hopefully they can get yours sorted 🤞
@@KiwiCarLife. I'm driving my third Cu2 now. It has a high resale value depending on gas price flactuations in my country. The middle section of the bumber at the bottom of the headlights have plastic mountings on each side. They literally split in half with the back part attached to the body. I reattach it using long drywall screws. The clips at the end of the bumper stays in place perfectly, except for the middle section. Just thought I should share.
Could you imagine how good the cl9 would be if it had the same gear ratios as the cu2 from factory
Oh yeah mate it would make a massive difference
For the CL9, you ever think about a TSX gauge cluster swap? Or it wouldn’t work?
No idea sorry man - it would probably be in miles too so I wouldn't do it if you're in NZ or AUS
@@KiwiCarLife Canada has the TSX so you could get a Kilometer gauge cluster from there
@@hernanaguilarjr7954 That's true didn't think of that. Personally I'm happy with the stock CL9 gauges
Very nice Video bro 🤝
Thanks man
I notice you've changed the stock intake -resonator tube for a short ram. How's that going? worth changing it over stock -tube? Would you go CAI if doing it again or something else? Thanks
I just made the intake by cutting up the cheap simota one I bought for my CD5 to fit my CL9... One day I'll probably get a better setup, just wanted more noise for the meantime
What did you think of the steering ratio's? That is something that annoys me on the CU1. And i'm not sure if they're any different...
At a guess they'd be the same, it's a little slow as these cars are getting older but I think the cu2 steering for eps is really nice
itd be cool to see accord euro compared to acura tsx, even though they are literally the same car
Yeah thinking about doing a video talking about the differences
are the rims 18x8.5? and did u have to do any adjustments after getting the rims ie camber arms etc?
18x7.5 and just got a wheel alignment
How did you change the front grill? Can you make a video on that?
Bought a used type s grille, unclipped the old one, clipped the new one on
Kiwi, if you can choose between cu2 auto or manual, which one you prefer? How much manual cu2 feels faster than auto version?
Oh obviously if you can get a manual go for it. The manual is a lot more engaging and definitely faster
Where did you get your gear knob from?
It's just a stock Euro R gear knob - bought it direct from Honda
Classic video !
Indeed
Fanging over Piecock. Choice bro
Haha you know it!
Review an Altezza anytime soon?
Got a mate with one, still trying to tee up a time
id also love to see this! Pls compare to 3sge manual
@@kiwibruzzy yeah thats what my friend has got - will get round to it at some point
I own an exquisite cw3 2008 executive 2.2diesel mapped ~200hp. It is tbh the best Honda i have owned, although it is Still plagued with the fault all My 7 Hondas have gotten.. front right lower ball joint is useless. Other than that im looking to install some airride kits, have you got any suggestions for a Good One?
Cool man, wouldn't know about anything to do with air ride sorry
@@KiwiCarLife alright, i Love your vids man. Keep on making My days more enjoyable ☺️
I had a manual 2.0l CU2 and it was very boat-y. Very good car otherwise but for a single person it is quite huge.
Yeah it is a big boy
You kidding me it’s a little car
Wasn’t the Cu4 available in your region? It’s the same body as the Cu2 but with a j35 instead of the k24z
I think that's the Acura TSX that has the J35Z6. Same shell as the CU1 and CU2 indeed, just different grille.
Nah CU4 was only available in the states as an Acura TSX - we got the us body Accord V6 too so there was no need for an accord euro v6 and an accord v6
@@KiwiCarLife got it thank you
What are the differences in automatic transmissions for both these cars? Are they still CVT's? I recall someone at the Honda dealership tell me that the CL9 transmission was not a CVT, and I have not been able to find much info online
Both 5 speed auto
Is the CU2 or CL9 more reliable? I was looking into them but I need one which has lesser issues. Do tell me please
@@dhrubonildas buy the one you prefer the drive of, they’ll both be equally reliable
@@KiwiCarLife I could find some at similar price point and sometimes the CL9 is a bit more expensive than the CU2, whereas CU2 is the one that came out later
Forgot to ask you... Did you see any gains in acceleration with switching from stock airbox/rez delete to a short ram with a pod filter?
Nah not really, although throttle response was definitely improved
@@KiwiCarLife good to know, because I ordered kn drop in filter and 3" velocity stack to put it on the stock airbox.
Great review want both now lol
Would recommend!
Where do you buy the Honda license plate frames? I went to Honda parts centre and they said they don't sell them but hondacare said they do lol
Dunno man, come see me if you're in welly, I'll get u some
@@KiwiCarLife appreciate the offer bro 🙏 unfortunately I'm in Auckland 😅 mean car btw
@@joshuam6448 in that case, any one of the Auckland dealers should have plenty...
In the 🇺🇸 the tsx comes with a K24 A2
Nah, the TSX of this year also comes with the Z3 in the US. You're talking about the '06 TSX.
@@The_Noticer. as far as I'm aware pfl and fl tsx has a2 but the fl ones have a bigger cam and better intake manifold or something, hence why they make more power
@@KiwiCarLife en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine#K24Z
Only 2004-2008 TSX's come with the A2.
Doesn't the CU2 come with the smart key?
Some of the very last jdm ones do I think
Where u get the sports kit from for the 06 cl9
Mine came factory like that. It's not something you can "buy"
First One... Good Video!
Cheers man!
Drain pipe is present
HAHA
Wish you used a JDM CU2
Why is that? They're not much different and the jdm ones don't don't in manual (or at least I haven't seen any import manual cu2s here in NZ)
I'm still confused on the k24 engines. So what's the main difference between my 2012 tsx and a 2008?
Cl9 has vtec on both intake and exhaust side and 4 separate exhaust ports going into a 4-1 header, cu2 has vtec only on intake side and has a collector style header where all 4 ports go into one outlet, rather than remaining separate and getting collected in the header.
In essence the cl9 engine is more desirable for tuning
@@KiwiCarLife thank you. Without tuning in mind, which is technically more reliable? Or are they about the same. Great video btw
@@fishmonger3796 really no difference tbh
If I have a cu2 can I add the k24a3 engine to it?
I need Acura to just be Hondas in the US too damnit 😂
Mate, we want your Acuras! I'd love a UA6 TL Type S 6spd
@@KiwiCarLife didn't think of that! Thought it'd carry over too, makes sense though honestly
both of use the same engine？
No! Rewatch the video and he will show you they're not the same..
@@kloudpheonix3615 same block, different heads, intake, exhaust and tuning
First, sorry for my english 😄 iam from Croatia and my english its not so good.
I see you video and its verry great ! I have the Accord Cl 9 AT and Cu2 AT
For my has the CL a timeles Design and give you mutch more fun to drive.
The Cu2 is havier and biger and you feel that. But the cu2 Engine its Stronger, the suspension give you mor stability when you drive 200km/h + on the german Autobahn. 👍👌💪🏻😎
The Conception in Cu its mutch mor bether for the CL.
Conception Highway Zagreb to Zurich max 130km/h:
Cl9 = 8.5L /100km
CU2= 7.2 /100km
So witch one is bether ?
i dont know ! I Love my cars same ♥️
I think the Cu2 its betther for Highway and German Autobahn !
The CL its bether in the City and when you driving to Alps.
Yeah would agree with that... stock cl9 vs stock cu2 (both auto) I'd take the cu2. It's more stable, has more power, more comfort and features. But manual vs manual I'd have a cl9. More sporty and lightweight chassis with more engine potential
Hey would you be at all interested in reviewing my 2012 Volvo S60 T4?
Could be keenski
In my opinion, the Honda grille on the CU2 chassis looks weird. I think the USA Acura grille looks much better on that car
I think a lot of people would strongly disagree
@@KiwiCarLife True. Even in the states, not a lot of people like that Acura beak. But I personally do
Hi can i fix cl9 rear spoiler to my cu2
Probably, but I’d recommend you just get a cu2 spoiler
@@KiwiCarLife but hard to find one
Im confuse..how much horsepower CU2? Stock
198hp
Thank q bro
Krivo
148kw ili 201HP
Cl9😍😍😍
Lovely vehicle
If you modify a CU2 with the same mods as CL9 you get a much better and modern car.
Yes but it’ll never drive the same with eps and more weight
Are you sure the problem is with the throttle of the CU2? Because the CU2 has a very unsmooth torque curve, peaks and dips all over the shop (due to crappy head/cam setup). The torque curve of the K24Z is nothing like the K24A....
Surely the reflash would fix that?
@@chrisskelly6408 yeah who knows aye...
@@chrisskelly6408 Not really no, you get more torque across the range but spike and dip is still there, but at a different RPM
How would you notice the torque curve when rev matching? Also haven't seen a torque figure except the official one which is pretty flat..
Is it anything to do with intake manifold? As I still have a k24a3 engine I can put bits in
It would be fair if you had the cu2 modded like your cl9 bro.. just sayin
Tbh it doesn't really need to be fair. I know what a stock cl9 drives like and I outlined the criteria I'd buy each one under
Some how i think that the Asian and American Accord’s and Civic’s look better than the European/Australian.
Uhhh, you reckon? Each to their own
Not the bug eye ones i hope?! JDM look way nicer!
CL9 exterior looks like a honda.
If it didn't I'd be a bit concerned!
cl9 makes me think its the original bootleg 3rd gen tl
It kinda is tbh, very similar cars except the tl was based on the us market accord and the tsx was based on the euro market accord
That’s an unfair comparison as your Cl9 is modified where the CU2 is a stock engine.
Mmm the cu2 had a few mods, tune, intake etc
@@KiwiCarLife yeah but your cI9 had headers also which gave you that slight advantage. I own a 2011 accord euro cu2 luxury and although I like the earlier editions like the cI9 I prefer the cu2,the refinements are so much better. But if you had bone stock both cars the cu2 would have the slight advantage with power but it’s really negligible to be honest. The gear ratios in my cu2 are better than the earlier versions like you said. Each to their own I guess,both cars are awesome and I believe the best 4 door sports cars ever made. I have big plans for my K-24 z3,she is getting a built performance engine rebuild with supporting mods for 300 hp. That will be the limit though as you start having traction issues if you go over that 300 hp range unless you go all wheel drive which is more money than I can afford. Hey great channel anyway mate,love your videos. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Hi. Ie
Hi?
both of them are twoo low..you will damage your car..Boy you have to learn...dont make mistake...normal streeet is not for make a race
Aye? My car isn't even that low and the other is stock ride height haha
@@KiwiCarLife yes stock really??,,i dont belive it...you are young guy..i am old i see a lot of things you think i dcant see...proof it show me the truth
@@IrmanSarajlija let me be clear sir. The CL9 is lowered on Tein S-Tech lowering springs. The CU2 is completely stock ride height. Do not try to argue otherwise.
What is your reasoning behind these cars being "too low" anyway? Do you think I should sell it and buy a CR-V instead?
@@KiwiCarLife no...you one young guy but know what cars are excellent in terms of realibiity ...CRV nooo..
@@IrmanSarajlija what are you on about? We were talking about ride height not reliability
CU2 is heavy and draggy look at the huge bonnet
It's a touch bigger yes
Zupa.11111
Yes
Yo Man.
Why would Acura allow such an ugly car to be sold?
The 09+ models.
It was all good until the 09 models.
Who approved this garbage to the public?
Wow
Aye? The cu2 with mods is one of the most beautiful cars ever made. I mean I get the tsx looks different but our accords imo look great
@KiwiCarLife not a chance.
Are you trolling me?
The third gen tsx is uglyyyy 🤮
Wow who approved that monstrosity?
They need to get fired and never be allowed to design another car ever again.
The whole team
@@realtruth97 News flash lad, styling is subjective.
I've got the 09 CU2 on 20s & bc racing coilovers. Even though the engine is 💯 stock goes great...handles amazing.. even on the 20s.. 245 up front and 275 on the back..
I say if this CU2 had some suspension work it would have been heaps better on the drive portion.. im all about the CU2.. great car!
Yeah they’re nice eh
@@KiwiCarLife what is "eh" ... is that kiwi lingo for something?
@@chrishagan9366 yeah nice aye, or nice eh, nice hey all the same thing haha