So... the game is always free in the app stores. And you always get 100 Starbux when you make a new account. Where is the actual promo here? (fixed typo)
@@dinolode4562 lmao ikr, game ain't worth it bro, gonna see a lot of overpriced/powered items, long queues of op ships and powermods in their main discord
@@dinolode4562 I'm playing this game since Jan 2019 and no, 100 bux get you virtually nowhere in this game. You literally need a couple 10k to reach end game, a couple 100k to get to the top. Also you can watch 40 ads for 3 bux each every day (on mobile), giving you 120 bux every day. This also shows how little 100 bux is. And that wasn't even what I wrote. I wrote that you ALWAYS get those 100 bux when you make a new account. Regardless of some scammy promo code.
Another thing about Ferrix--it's buildings are mostly masonry. Masonry is a trade that is very hard to automate, especially once you get into decorative work like they have everywhere on Ferrix. Ferrix also shows a distinct lack of high end automation, even their bell ringer is a living human (when you could easily do even the most basic automation like clockwork to do this job). This shows they have a high degree of pride in their community and talent in their populace, so much so that they literally turn their dead into bricks. I grew up in Appalachia right at the end of its industrial age. Ferrix really reminds me of home.
It's funny you say that, I remember telling a friend of mine that I thought Ferrix had some Appalachian vibes. Interesting that someone from that region felt it too!
“Oppression is the mask of fear”. Never forget the people gave you your power and they can take it away. Especially when they’re tired of being afraid.
That'll be why the Nazis were so concerned with public opinion, right through the war. Turning occupied areas to deserts to keep the material standards on the home front up.
@@Dave0G that’s why our government is so involved in damping of free speech. People point to the nazis as if this isn’t happening now. It’s good to remember the past, but better to see the fingerprints of the past manifesting in the present in subtle ways, a stepping stone approach that before you know it you are in the grips of full authoritarian control. But FEAR NOT, as this show says, oppression is unnatural. That’s why this show is so important at this moment, NOW.
Railworkers in the US have gone 3 years without pay increases and have no protections for sick leave because of COVID. This combined with chronic understaffing have made it so that trains in the US are more dangerous, will derail more often, and cost us billions in dollars for transport. They rejected a deal by the rail executives that would have forced them back to work without pay raises or sick leave. Because of this, they were planning to strike. However in our political system we don’t have a labor or socialist party. We have a neo-liberal Democratic Party and a nationalist Republican Party. The current president has decided to force the workers to accept the deal and force them back to work without sick leave. There are a lot of talks of Wildcat Strikes, which means all workers strike on their own accord without official Union support.
Best, most thoughtful, deep dive of any show I’ve ever watched. I’m a Boomer and saw SW in 1977, and then I started college and work and, while I saw all the subsequent theatrical releases, I lost track of the canon. I had NO idea there were series or shows or even fan fiction. Watching your channel has brought a better understanding of what has gone before and after “Andor”. Mostly though, I enjoy your point of view and insight into the many, many correlations between our universes. Great work.
Honestly Ferrix reminds me of those Factory and Mining towns in 1920s America. Where those people and workers would fight like hell to help each other out when pushed hard enough. I'd like to be in this type of town. Yeah I anit rich but I anit poor and living on the streets either.
If you notice, there was no law enforcement agency on Ferrex because there was no major capital crimes: theft, murder, arson, assault. Everyone knew everyone. If you owed money, you often payed it back or got beaten up; but not killed. Dead men can't pay debts. And the salvage work still needed to get done. You could make extra credits if you took the time and effort to acquire rare sought after components. So Ferrex operated on an honor system. Because for the most part, you were working or bargaining with people you considered family. To the Empire, Ferrex was another useless Outer Rim settlement. It held no valuable mining resources (or so they thought) that would warrant Imperial administration. It wasn't until the ISB learned of secret imperial technology was being trafficked through Ferrex to the Rebellion did the empire take a closer interest in Ferrex and other rural settlement planets like it.
It has to be said that Andor added more thought and care to world building in Star Wars since ... well, Star Wars. This is not some chew up every previous Star Wars movie and see what we spit out, this is really new. Really new is what Lucas was always trying to achieve. Nothing DIsney has made has been truly inspiring, altering, upgrading. Andor has elevated the way SW deserves to be elevated.
One of the coolest aspects of the finale were the instruments played by the marching band looked like they were too made from parts stripped from the salvaged ships...pretty rad detail to include. Anyway, solid vid man, nicely done to you and your crew.
If we return to Ferrix in Andor season 2, I think we'll see that Maarva's words fight the empire take on a different character to the initial riot, from people complying with imperial occupiers as little as they can and as slowly as they can, to attempts behind the scenes to amass and supply weapons and supplies for rebel activity elsewhere
I could see part of season two being the Empire pulling the breaking yards away from Ferrix, seeing how far they can stretch unity when the credits dry up.
@@Wolfman7870 I feel like Nemik's manifesto will be what pulls the different rebel cells together into the Alliance. Or at least gets them going in that direction.
@@ThalassTKynn yeah but didn't he like leave it in a hotel room on planet Florida before getting arrested along with all his money from the heist? I guess he could just go back for it.
Open ended question: what blend of Earthly cultural influences/inspirations do y’all see in Ferrix? The scale and shape of their architecture gives me strong Moorish or maybe Moroccan vibes, but also kinda Levantine.
Serbia....after centuries of occupation and trying to convert the locals, the Ottomans finally threw up their hands and said 'screw it, we're leaving'.
The architecture struck me as Romanesque, what with all the brickwork. Which is fitting, as there's a lot of Romanesque buildings in Ireland, especially in counties where the IRA is still strong.
I was kind of mad that Luthen, Vel, and Cassian did not join the Ferrix fight along with the citizens. I was feeling the emotion from Marva's speech, so I know I was onboard for some Imperial blood.
I’m very happy SW found it’s footing and is now pumping out quality content. It wasn’t the big budgeted blockbuster that were hand strung by the necessity to be the largest movies by Disney who were desperate to recoup and validate their purchase. Then add a lack of planning for your trilogy & banking solely on SW legacy brand to carry the rest and you get the botched start of Disney SW. Now with a more laxed control by executives and trust in content creators that know the material that doesn’t need to bring in box office returns but a steady stream of viewers to Disney+ allowed the franchises to return to its purpose of being an excellent canvas for real life political/social messaging with a cool syfy paint on it. This is where SW shines and I’m so happy it’s back
I do think they need to do more to rectify the on-screen and off-screen versions of the empire. On-screen they're scary and authoritarian in a banality-of-evil kind of way, but off-screen they're casually and gleefully committing planetary genocides. Not even with bombardment, sending troops in to fight house to house. Alien baby planet, Losat, Geonosis, Mandalore...
I wonder if Tony Gilroy pulled any inspiration from the song(s) "Another brick in the wall" by Pink Floyd for the funerals on Ferix. Would be really poetic if he did.
The hammers and anvil used by the character to announce the time brings up the metaphor of being the anvil that breaks the hammer, and that's what Ferrix is.
The way that Ferrix deals with the spy reminds me of Nauvoo, Illinois - the boys would follow around strangers, whistling, so that everyone around would know there was a stranger about.
I really enjoyed the first three episodes so far, the world building is really inspirational(I know that sounds like an odd adjective, but that is what it is. Trying to form an industrial conglomerate of sorts in no man's sky.
Not really. The Death Star wasn't made to threaten Ferrix - any Star Destroyer could do that. The Death Star was made to threaten *Coruscant.* It was made to threaten Corellia, Kuat, Chandrilla, Alderaan; It was made to threaten the Grand Admirals and Moffs, to tow the line. That the Emperor would always and forever have the bigger stick.
@@andrewlyon4495 I agree. The Death Star is probably one of the biggest wastes of time, money, and resources in fiction as a whole and they made two of em😂.
@@bigjah5249 It makes a bit more sense when you consider who the Emperor actually saw as *his* enemies: His own commanders and governors. A single Star Destroyer can raze an unprotected continent in an afternoon of firing drills, but one planetary shield and you're looking at a weeks-long siege or a costly ground campaign. (See Hoth) The Death Star, by contrast, renders all known planetary shields worthless. There is no defense. And had the Empire put more thought into Starfighter defenses, there would have been no hope of offensive actions against it, either.
I have so much appreciation for your commentary on Andor. Your channel and Andor have both been excellent companions to me as I navigated the first term of my MSW program this fall (Master of Social Work for those unfamiliar). Everything I am learning is of course rooted in social justice and anti-oppression. I hope to write at least one paper on Andor. I did a community assessment for one of my classes. Your video has me wishing that I has done my project on Ferrix! Your video is an amazing community assessment! A+
Whenever there is power grabbed inevitably there is the descendant of the grabber that only knows power without its cost - right up until the next grabber takes them to school.
Yes, your last quip made prefect sense..as did everything else you said. If only the leaders of this world would take these things to mind and heart..and stop treating people like merely accountable material resources, and more like people.
So basically Ferrix is the Star Wars equivalent of a place like Afghanistan. Sparsely populated, far away from major hubs, long history of resistance against various regimes, decentralized institutions and authorities and thus a death trap for imperialist ambitions.
1) “The Graveyard of Empires” will forever be the most badass nickname for any country on Earth. Applicable to Ferrix and Afghanistan alike. 2) Vizinni will always be proven right. Never, ever start a land war in Asia. Ferrix is ironclad, basically Space South Asia.
I wonder what value these regions have? They seem pretty barren and blighted. Why would The Empire care? A'Stan was rugged, inhospitable and the population always squabbling. Did their location provide a 'value' to outflank a 'possible rival'( the 'Great Game' was Britain v France v Russia, I think)? Otherwise, did the lawless conditions spill over into more 'settled locations'? Was there banditry, raiding and marauding? That was kind of the purpose of Hadrian's wall, right?
@@nickmitsialis It's purely power play. Ferrix belonged to the Republic so Empire appeared there after Clone war to show who's in charge. Since the Empire was "founded" to oppose the Separatist's agenda.
Ferrix is actually much, much worse empire breaker than Vietnam or Afghanistan. The latter was a mess of competing loyalties and the former was in civil war which the US involved itself in. For geographic and cultural reasons they can be major problems, but we see no signs of large scale conflicts in Ferrix's society capable of leading a significant percentage of their society supporting the Empire which means really, having engaged them like this, the Empire pretty much HAS to wipe out their society one way or another.
The problem is that in the real world, dictators have increasingly more efficient ways of subduing the masses. The most cunning ones actually prefer not to use force.
Why the Empire did not use the tactic of "fall guy played the role anarchist who spreads his version of "freedom" that basically said you can kill people around and have no consequences" instead of trying to oppress people? Considering how weird and scary this plan is, I think it is something Palpatine and Tarkin will approved.
Reminds me of the old factory workers who worked at the Carnegie steel mill and with them rioting the company sent in the Pinkertons to clear them out.
Yep... great talk... Didn’t see it at first but after your cogent analysis it’s kind of obvious ... Ferrex is Poland. We like things that work, and nothing stays broken or unused for long... and we are very, very good at outlasting repression.
George Orwell is quoted as saying "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever." While I don't want to detract from Orwell's point of DON'T LET THIS THING HAPPEN YOU GUYS, I would like to borrow an uplifting interpretation I first heard from Abigail Thorne/Philosophy Tube(if I recall correctly; can't find the video and would LOVE if someone could provide more info): the boot HAS to keep stamping down, HARD. It takes constant, monumental effort to keep a population subdued. Unjust institutions, by their very nature, ARE leaky *even when at their most competent.*
Love your videos Allen. Very insightful and well thought-out. Do you do all your own writing, or do you have others helping you? Either way, well done! It appears you don't use a teleprompter or even have much in the way of notes to refer to? Excellent commentary!
Its pretty much the Star Wars Version of Sodor or Ninjago, harm, attack or attempt to control everything and you’d be fighting a war that you’d ether surrender or completely erase it of the map
So - is Ferrix the name of a town/city or the planet or both? And is it likely that the rest of the planet looks similar with similar business? After all a planet is a huge thing and even looking all the way to the horizon from the anvil tower would show not even a fraction of a percent of the landmass... are there farmers and fishermen on the world or is it all covered in scrap
Ferrix is a perfect example of what happens when you station an armed force that isn't needed or necessary to keep order but causes a full-blown Uprising that could have been prevented if a military armed force wasn't deployed and didn't interfere in local affairs on ferrix or rile up the population by being their those imperial officers were not only stupid they ignored basic human nature to overcome fear and rebel . The empire did this to other planets, and that only strengthened the rebels with new recruitment and more systems going haywire.
The Romans understood well that you need both the carrot + the stick to effectively control an empire and that the aim should be to one day remove the stick completely. Palaptine and his cronies never quite learned this lesson.
@@arthurbriand2175 absolutely! As per a previous video here if they'd stuck to the Aldani method then the Empire would be set but Palpatine and ISB just wouldn't settle for subtlety.
"alan" you are on point with this is main contrast, difference& disparity between the federal government and the southern states {the confederacy}in 2022
There's an entire anthropological theory that says that societies in difficult to reach highland terrain (i.e., Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.) are not relics of humanity that never developed but places populated by effectively runaway slaves, people fleeing the coercive states of the lowland river valleys. These are places that distrust strangers, that don't see trade with the outside as a fair exchange, prize individualism, but also encourage communities and families to look to one another.
I still dislike the presentation of large companies as fundamentally evil. Yeah, this happens - looking at you, Amazon - but at the same time it caricatures people too much. How many wealthy people actually do try to make the world a better place. Imho, the evil big company is just a stupid trope.
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but with all the scrap ( star ships and cruisers crashed obviously ) but I have never heard of a battle previous to andor on Ferrix.. am I alone?? Or do I just not know??
You address many of the factors that play into the dynamic of revolutions. Violent revolutions tend to just supplant one oppressive system with another; nothing really changes except who is in charge. Non-violent revolution empowers the disenfranchised and involves all demographics (not just the young and strong who are able to physically fight) and so results in lasting change that is more stable. But, non-violent approaches take longer and are more challenging to build.
Little question: Should the two large Star Wars conflicts be renamed? The Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War are the two most influentail conflicts in the Star Wars history we have seen on screen and the names never quite sounded right to me. First the Galactic Civil War was not something named in universe but called that by fans and EU writers. I found this definition for it "a politically organized, large-scale, sustained, physically violent conflict that occurs within a country principally among large/numerically important groups of its inhabitants or citizens over the monopoly of physical force within the country". Now you could argue that this applies to the Rebellion conflict with the Empire, but the Rebellion is clearly not a large scale effort and does not involve more than a statistically insignificant part of the population. Also the conflict is about more than control over the country or political power, it is about an ideological fight to overthrow a system to replace it with one based on other political aspirations. I think this definition of revolution is better adapted to the Rebellion's war "an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed". The Galactic Civil War should, at least I think be named the Galactic Revolution, plus it fits with the theme of Americans against Imperialist Brits. I have seen it be referred as such but it clearly is not the consensus and I think there is room for improvement in our discourse if we name things accurately Now the Clone Wars is the other great conflict and apart from being made canon by Luke in ANH, why is it called the "clone war"? Why are clones, the important or impactful element that burned itself into the collective galactic memory. Why not droids? There were billions of them and they tried to destroy the core worlds, the winners that get to call the war. The Droid war would make more sense than the Clone wars considering there were only 6 million clones in all and they were "the Good guys" for the later Imperial Historians. But more importantly when you refer yourself to the previous definition I gave for Civil war it fits better. The Confederacy is a politically organized, large scale sustained, physically violent conflict that decided the control over the monopoly of physical force in a politie (the Monopoly of violence of Max Weber being the appetance of a sovereign State). Once again a parallel in American hsitory would be the US civil war. With an organized faction that presents as an independant State trying to secede from an original state, in order to be able to use its own ressources and instaure its own authoritarian exploitative political regime on populations farther away from the core of the country, for philosophical as well as economical interests. The Clone wars name fits this conflict far less than Galactic Civil War in my opinion. I know these names are seered into canon at this point and it's too late to do anything about it but I would love your opinion on the nomenclature given to historical events in Star Wars.
Droids were used in wars in mass quantity for millennia, and there were also several actual droid rebellions which could be confusing since Separatist leadership weren't actually droids. The existence of clones created a philosophical debate on whether they should be considered living beings or should be classified the same as droids which had not occurred before since such a large number of clones had never existed. They were extremely unique to that war, and both sides weren't sure how clones should be treated. If the clones had not existed, it would have just continued being called the "Separatist Crisis" or "War of Separatist Secession", because droids were never the focal point of the political turmoil within the republic, and if not for the creation of the Empire, the role of clones in society would have created larger philosophical differences within the senate while people's opinions of droids would have largely remained the same. Neither Revolution nor Civil War fit what the Galactic Civil War started as. It was a series of many different concurrent wars and revolts whose only unifying trait was the desire to destroy the empire, with little in common after that. The simplest way to name how it started is just a Galactic Rebellion. Every participant definitely were not trying to push a single ideology, and many definitely did not want to replace the government system, but that didn't matter as long as they all worked toward the same goal, which was to bring about the destruction of the Galactic Empire. Once these different rebellions unified it shifts into a Civil War because it didn't matter what ideology or sect you believe in, the only important side was "Imperial" or "Rebel". The end of the empire didn't occur at the end of episode 6, there was still a much larger war which continued to be fought which included a much larger portion of the population which was never shown in movies.
Great video and deep and accurate analysis. As a person whose country is currently going on an uprising (and hopefully a revolution) against evil dictatorial regime, Andor show and this analysis was very inspiring and painfully realistic.
Well, here's the thing. This wasn't oppression for the dictatorshipness of it, this was oppression caused by sheer incompetence and oversight. When I watched the riot scene I really hoped that someone would kick the imp captains head in. If they had, the Imps wouldn't have been given the orders to fire. The lower ranking officer whom we also see is clearly more competent and would have handled the situation better, but it was by the dismissive oversight of the ISB that the captain was given overall control over the Ferrix garrison. The captain took the opportunity to ask for promotion, the ISB gave it without any thought. *That* is what caused the Rix Road massacre, not 'Imperial cruelty'. If only the kid had thrown the bomb at him instead becoming a terrorist by throwing it at a bunch of ammo crates
ISB Supervisor Blevin seems to have prioritized building his own little fiefdom. He naturally assigned a mediocre officer to lead the Ferrix garrison because assigning mediocre people keeps them dependent on him and also reduces potential threats from below. The captain was so slow on the uptake that he didn't even realize Blevin was there to give him an assignment. Sure, he asked for a sham "promotion" to have the title of Prefect, knowing it didn't involve any more pay, but that didn't really have any relevance to anything. So, I think it wasn't dismissive oversight - I think Blevin put a mediocre officer in charge on purpose. I mean, this is just the impression I get, from a very limited amount of screen time, and inferring from the overall picture. For example, Blevin's reports are all on time despite having a much larger number of sectors to manage than any of the others. To me, this implies that he values the reports being done on time rather than being done properly. And apparently his own report on Ferrix was significantly incomplete.
@@IsaacKuo I dunno, I think the captain downplayed the importance of being a prefect to Blevin and Blevin really did not care. Same goes for Dedra, she really did not care about the prefect in any way, I mean both their conversations end in such dismissive ways, Dedra tells him that she doesn't care what he does with Salman, not that he should execute him.
I understand that star wars is a typical western movie and its cannon doesn't make sense But we have never gotten a true TV series showing what the Rebelion etc really was like. For all the people that complain at least Star wars 1/2/3 showed us what the clone wars really was like. And used a camera style that looked real whist the current one looks fake
I don’t know, we achieved peace with Japan when we nuked them. Probably the only time that worked tough. Disclaimer: It’s a joke, the threat of Russian invasion probably scared the Japanese into surrendering as well as the bombs
This show demonstrates how enjoyable fantasy is. In fantasy, an oppressive entity can be defeated. The reality is reflected in places like China, Russia, and Iran.
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So... the game is always free in the app stores. And you always get 100 Starbux when you make a new account. Where is the actual promo here?
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@@funnezenuckl0rz Probably sparing you like 1-2 months of grinding out the game
@@dinolode4562 lmao ikr, game ain't worth it bro, gonna see a lot of overpriced/powered items, long queues of op ships and powermods in their main discord
@@dinolode4562 I'm playing this game since Jan 2019 and no, 100 bux get you virtually nowhere in this game. You literally need a couple 10k to reach end game, a couple 100k to get to the top. Also you can watch 40 ads for 3 bux each every day (on mobile), giving you 120 bux every day. This also shows how little 100 bux is.
And that wasn't even what I wrote. I wrote that you ALWAYS get those 100 bux when you make a new account. Regardless of some scammy promo code.
Another thing about Ferrix--it's buildings are mostly masonry. Masonry is a trade that is very hard to automate, especially once you get into decorative work like they have everywhere on Ferrix. Ferrix also shows a distinct lack of high end automation, even their bell ringer is a living human (when you could easily do even the most basic automation like clockwork to do this job). This shows they have a high degree of pride in their community and talent in their populace, so much so that they literally turn their dead into bricks.
I grew up in Appalachia right at the end of its industrial age. Ferrix really reminds me of home.
It's funny you say that, I remember telling a friend of mine that I thought Ferrix had some Appalachian vibes. Interesting that someone from that region felt it too!
“Oppression is the mask of fear”. Never forget the people gave you your power and they can take it away. Especially when they’re tired of being afraid.
Well put.
That'll be why the Nazis were so concerned with public opinion, right through the war. Turning occupied areas to deserts to keep the material standards on the home front up.
@@Dave0G among many other things
@@Dave0G that’s why our government is so involved in damping of free speech. People point to the nazis as if this isn’t happening now. It’s good to remember the past, but better to see the fingerprints of the past manifesting in the present in subtle ways, a stepping stone approach that before you know it you are in the grips of full authoritarian control. But FEAR NOT, as this show says, oppression is unnatural. That’s why this show is so important at this moment, NOW.
@@Dave0G btw forgot to say, great observation.
Shout out to Railworkers all across the US trying who are fighting for their freedom in a way similar to those on Ferrix.
Thank you Railworkers! You deserve better.
Absolutely. I hope they strike even if Congress tries to stop them
Hell yes.
Sorry I’m European. What exactly are railworkers in the US fighting for and why?
Railworkers in the US have gone 3 years without pay increases and have no protections for sick leave because of COVID. This combined with chronic understaffing have made it so that trains in the US are more dangerous, will derail more often, and cost us billions in dollars for transport. They rejected a deal by the rail executives that would have forced them back to work without pay raises or sick leave. Because of this, they were planning to strike. However in our political system we don’t have a labor or socialist party. We have a neo-liberal Democratic Party and a nationalist Republican Party. The current president has decided to force the workers to accept the deal and force them back to work without sick leave.
There are a lot of talks of Wildcat Strikes, which means all workers strike on their own accord without official Union support.
Best, most thoughtful, deep dive of any show I’ve ever watched. I’m a Boomer and saw SW in 1977, and then I started college and work and, while I saw all the subsequent theatrical releases, I lost track of the canon. I had NO idea there were series or shows or even fan fiction. Watching your channel has brought a better understanding of what has gone before and after “Andor”. Mostly though, I enjoy your point of view and insight into the many, many correlations between our universes. Great work.
Unfortunately the disney fan-fic is amongst some of the worst pile excrement in existence
@@vexile1239 literally who tf asked?
@@WolfclawTheGreatwolf your mother didn't ask for you but here you are, an insult to her genes
“To defeat an enemy you must know them, not just their battle tactics.” -Thrawn
Honestly Ferrix reminds me of those Factory and Mining towns in 1920s America. Where those people and workers would fight like hell to help each other out when pushed hard enough.
I'd like to be in this type of town. Yeah I anit rich but I anit poor and living on the streets either.
Ferrix shows that often the least remarkable things in the galaxy are the most precious
"This looks like a home they'll cherish and fight for".
Even in death, as it turns out.
If you notice, there was no law enforcement agency on Ferrex because there was no major capital crimes: theft, murder, arson, assault.
Everyone knew everyone. If you owed money, you often payed it back or got beaten up; but not killed. Dead men can't pay debts. And the salvage work still needed to get done. You could make extra credits if you took the time and effort to acquire rare sought after components.
So Ferrex operated on an honor system. Because for the most part, you were working or bargaining with people you considered family.
To the Empire, Ferrex was another useless Outer Rim settlement. It held no valuable mining resources (or so they thought) that would warrant Imperial administration. It wasn't until the ISB learned of secret imperial technology was being trafficked through Ferrex to the Rebellion did the empire take a closer interest in Ferrex and other rural settlement planets like it.
That's a succinct description of an anarchic justice system.
It has to be said that Andor added more thought and care to world building in Star Wars since ... well, Star Wars. This is not some chew up every previous Star Wars movie and see what we spit out, this is really new. Really new is what Lucas was always trying to achieve. Nothing DIsney has made has been truly inspiring, altering, upgrading. Andor has elevated the way SW deserves to be elevated.
The mandalorian???
13:34 As the good Doctor once put it: "You need to win every single time while they need to win only once."
One of the coolest aspects of the finale were the instruments played by the marching band looked like they were too made from parts stripped from the salvaged ships...pretty rad detail to include. Anyway, solid vid man, nicely done to you and your crew.
If we return to Ferrix in Andor season 2, I think we'll see that Maarva's words fight the empire take on a different character to the initial riot, from people complying with imperial occupiers as little as they can and as slowly as they can, to attempts behind the scenes to amass and supply weapons and supplies for rebel activity elsewhere
Ferrix is essentially a northern English industrial town rising up against Thatcher. Right up to the brick houses.
I could see part of season two being the Empire pulling the breaking yards away from Ferrix, seeing how far they can stretch unity when the credits dry up.
Imagine if the people of Ferrix get their hands on the copies of Nemik's manifesto distributed by Cassian.
Man, I hope that happens. I really just want more to happen with that manefesto. Be a shame if nothing happens with it in the future.
@@Wolfman7870 I feel like Nemik's manifesto will be what pulls the different rebel cells together into the Alliance. Or at least gets them going in that direction.
@@ThalassTKynn yeah but didn't he like leave it in a hotel room on planet Florida before getting arrested along with all his money from the heist? I guess he could just go back for it.
They already have the speech that will no doubt become legend, unlike Cassian I don't think Ferrix need that manifesto to get their rebellion flowing.
@@Wolfman7870 he does go back for it. Or rather he goes back for the money and the manifesto is in the same bag haha
Open ended question: what blend of Earthly cultural influences/inspirations do y’all see in Ferrix? The scale and shape of their architecture gives me strong Moorish or maybe Moroccan vibes, but also kinda Levantine.
Serbia....after centuries of occupation and trying to convert the locals, the Ottomans finally threw up their hands and said 'screw it, we're leaving'.
The architecture struck me as Romanesque, what with all the brickwork. Which is fitting, as there's a lot of Romanesque buildings in Ireland, especially in counties where the IRA is still strong.
they all wear orange and red, they are not a culture just a palette choice
The setting itself is meant to depict Palestine apparently
@@aadil1998 too modern; gotta be Ottoman times!
And anyway, the locals are all dressed in their 'Depressed Steel Town' duds.
Community will always resist tyranny. The lone wolf dies but the pack survives.
But leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe 🤠
Depends on where that’s at.
I was kind of mad that Luthen, Vel, and Cassian did not join the Ferrix fight along with the citizens. I was feeling the emotion from Marva's speech, so I know I was onboard for some Imperial blood.
Best you tube channel for star wars. Logical information and no drama, Keep up the great work.
I’m very happy SW found it’s footing and is now pumping out quality content. It wasn’t the big budgeted blockbuster that were hand strung by the necessity to be the largest movies by Disney who were desperate to recoup and validate their purchase. Then add a lack of planning for your trilogy & banking solely on SW legacy brand to carry the rest and you get the botched start of Disney SW. Now with a more laxed control by executives and trust in content creators that know the material that doesn’t need to bring in box office returns but a steady stream of viewers to Disney+ allowed the franchises to return to its purpose of being an excellent canvas for real life political/social messaging with a cool syfy paint on it. This is where SW shines and I’m so happy it’s back
I do think they need to do more to rectify the on-screen and off-screen versions of the empire. On-screen they're scary and authoritarian in a banality-of-evil kind of way, but off-screen they're casually and gleefully committing planetary genocides. Not even with bombardment, sending troops in to fight house to house. Alien baby planet, Losat, Geonosis, Mandalore...
I wonder if Tony Gilroy pulled any inspiration from the song(s) "Another brick in the wall" by Pink Floyd for the funerals on Ferix. Would be really poetic if he did.
The hammers and anvil used by the character to announce the time brings up the metaphor of being the anvil that breaks the hammer, and that's what Ferrix is.
The way that Ferrix deals with the spy reminds me of Nauvoo, Illinois - the boys would follow around strangers, whistling, so that everyone around would know there was a stranger about.
I love this town and these people so much.
I really enjoyed the first three episodes so far, the world building is really inspirational(I know that sounds like an odd adjective, but that is what it is. Trying to form an industrial conglomerate of sorts in no man's sky.
Ferrix seems to be the ideal reason why the Death Star was built.
Not really. The Death Star wasn't made to threaten Ferrix - any Star Destroyer could do that. The Death Star was made to threaten *Coruscant.* It was made to threaten Corellia, Kuat, Chandrilla, Alderaan; It was made to threaten the Grand Admirals and Moffs, to tow the line. That the Emperor would always and forever have the bigger stick.
Maybe the next season starts with another "mining disaster" on Ferrix
That’d be….interesting but I don’t believe the timeline would agree with that
the Empire doesn't need a death star to raze a planet. They were able to deal with Mandalore with just conventional weapons.
@@andrewlyon4495 I agree. The Death Star is probably one of the biggest wastes of time, money, and resources in fiction as a whole and they made two of em😂.
@@bigjah5249 It makes a bit more sense when you consider who the Emperor actually saw as *his* enemies: His own commanders and governors. A single Star Destroyer can raze an unprotected continent in an afternoon of firing drills, but one planetary shield and you're looking at a weeks-long siege or a costly ground campaign. (See Hoth)
The Death Star, by contrast, renders all known planetary shields worthless. There is no defense. And had the Empire put more thought into Starfighter defenses, there would have been no hope of offensive actions against it, either.
I have so much appreciation for your commentary on Andor. Your channel and Andor have both been excellent companions to me as I navigated the first term of my MSW program this fall (Master of Social Work for those unfamiliar). Everything I am learning is of course rooted in social justice and anti-oppression. I hope to write at least one paper on Andor. I did a community assessment for one of my classes. Your video has me wishing that I has done my project on Ferrix! Your video is an amazing community assessment! A+
4:29 I’m 99% sure that it was mentioned to be in the Mid Rim. I know Kenari is supposed to be Mid Rim, so I’m not confusing them.
This is why Lothal became free from the Empire control.
I love how each geographic group on here is able to point to a time in their history when they rose up and took power back
Whenever there is power grabbed inevitably there is the descendant of the grabber that only knows power without its cost - right up until the next grabber takes them to school.
Yes, your last quip made prefect sense..as did everything else you said. If only the leaders of this world would take these things to mind and heart..and stop treating people like merely accountable material resources, and more like people.
So basically Ferrix is the Star Wars equivalent of a place like Afghanistan. Sparsely populated, far away from major hubs, long history of resistance against various regimes, decentralized institutions and authorities and thus a death trap for imperialist ambitions.
But Pakistan and China are running Afghanistan now…
Unless you run in to the equivalent of the vong etc then it’s not a death trap for empires at all. But a fight to the death for existence
a highly industrialized version of afghanistan would it be minus the tribalism
1) “The Graveyard of Empires” will forever be the most badass nickname for any country on Earth. Applicable to Ferrix and Afghanistan alike.
2) Vizinni will always be proven right. Never, ever start a land war in Asia.
Ferrix is ironclad, basically Space South Asia.
Or a space Balkans--rugged, remote and full of people who always seem ready for an argument
I wonder what value these regions have? They seem pretty barren and blighted. Why would The Empire care? A'Stan was rugged, inhospitable and the population always squabbling. Did their location provide a 'value' to outflank a 'possible rival'( the 'Great Game' was Britain v France v Russia, I think)? Otherwise, did the lawless conditions spill over into more 'settled locations'? Was there banditry, raiding and marauding? That was kind of the purpose of Hadrian's wall, right?
@@nickmitsialis It's purely power play. Ferrix belonged to the Republic so Empire appeared there after Clone war to show who's in charge. Since the Empire was "founded" to oppose the Separatist's agenda.
and it's a misnomer: it's more like the 'bankruptcy court of empires'.
@@mdd4296 SO Ferrix wasn't a Sepo World?
Ferix even has a decent streetcar system! @9:20
Ferrix is actually much, much worse empire breaker than Vietnam or Afghanistan. The latter was a mess of competing loyalties and the former was in civil war which the US involved itself in. For geographic and cultural reasons they can be major problems, but we see no signs of large scale conflicts in Ferrix's society capable of leading a significant percentage of their society supporting the Empire which means really, having engaged them like this, the Empire pretty much HAS to wipe out their society one way or another.
The problem is that in the real world, dictators have increasingly more efficient ways of subduing the masses. The most cunning ones actually prefer not to use force.
Another great video and I'm generation tech ☺️
Why the Empire did not use the tactic of "fall guy played the role anarchist who spreads his version of "freedom" that basically said you can kill people around and have no consequences" instead of trying to oppress people? Considering how weird and scary this plan is, I think it is something Palpatine and Tarkin will approved.
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Reminds me of the old factory workers who worked at the Carnegie steel mill and with them rioting the company sent in the Pinkertons to clear them out.
Shoutout to Brasso beaning an imperial with Marva's brick hehe. Might be my favourite moment
Yep... great talk... Didn’t see it at first but after your cogent analysis it’s kind of obvious ... Ferrex is Poland. We like things that work, and nothing stays broken or unused for long... and we are very, very good at outlasting repression.
Empires die because the plot demands it
George Orwell is quoted as saying "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever." While I don't want to detract from Orwell's point of DON'T LET THIS THING HAPPEN YOU GUYS, I would like to borrow an uplifting interpretation I first heard from Abigail Thorne/Philosophy Tube(if I recall correctly; can't find the video and would LOVE if someone could provide more info): the boot HAS to keep stamping down, HARD. It takes constant, monumental effort to keep a population subdued. Unjust institutions, by their very nature, ARE leaky *even when at their most competent.*
Super appreciate your thoughtful and deep insights into the world building and character motivations. Thanks for your hard work!
I think the thing I will miss the most next season is hearing Alan say "Sergeant Tactical Blueberry."
Great vid Gen Tech! lol "tactical blueberries".
Love your videos Allen. Very insightful and well thought-out. Do you do all your own writing, or do you have others helping you? Either way, well done!
It appears you don't use a teleprompter or even have much in the way of notes to refer to? Excellent commentary!
Sometimes I wonder if we're still talking about Andor
Yes it made sense mate. Love you Allen. 😝😀👍🏻
Love this content. Make more. That is all.
Its pretty much the Star Wars Version of Sodor or Ninjago, harm, attack or attempt to control everything and you’d be fighting a war that you’d ether surrender or completely erase it of the map
These are very entertaining
Truly a case study in just letting people go about their business and be left alone
“My name is Tech, and I’m Generation Allan. I believe in the Republic and DEMOCRACY!”
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So, whats with that one pair of gloves always missing fvrom the wall even when all others are there? Is that something symbolic?
incredible content
I'm interested to see what happens to Ferrix after the uprising in the last episode
I bet the emperor immediately put Ferrix on the top ten Death Star targets after the rebel scum attack.
So - is Ferrix the name of a town/city or the planet or both? And is it likely that the rest of the planet looks similar with similar business? After all a planet is a huge thing and even looking all the way to the horizon from the anvil tower would show not even a fraction of a percent of the landmass... are there farmers and fishermen on the world or is it all covered in scrap
Cool video, thank you.
Yup made perfect since!
Ah, yes, the riddle of durasteel. Just ask Thulsa Doom. "Durasteel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger!"
Ferrix is a perfect example of what happens when you station an armed force that isn't needed or necessary to keep order but causes a full-blown Uprising that could have been prevented if a military armed force wasn't deployed and didn't interfere in local affairs on ferrix or rile up the population by being their those imperial officers were not only stupid they ignored basic human nature to overcome fear and rebel .
The empire did this to other planets, and that only strengthened the rebels with new recruitment and more systems going haywire.
The Romans understood well that you need both the carrot + the stick to effectively control an empire and that the aim should be to one day remove the stick completely. Palaptine and his cronies never quite learned this lesson.
Because the Siths make terrible politician, like Jedis. You need the whole spectrum of emotion and human experience to manipulate people.
@@arthurbriand2175 absolutely! As per a previous video here if they'd stuck to the Aldani method then the Empire would be set but Palpatine and ISB just wouldn't settle for subtlety.
Us BattleTech fans know this truth just as well.
The Taurian Concordat sends its regards.
"alan" you are on point with this is main contrast, difference& disparity between the federal government and the southern states {the confederacy}in 2022
The power of the revolution yeah!
There's an entire anthropological theory that says that societies in difficult to reach highland terrain (i.e., Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.) are not relics of humanity that never developed but places populated by effectively runaway slaves, people fleeing the coercive states of the lowland river valleys. These are places that distrust strangers, that don't see trade with the outside as a fair exchange, prize individualism, but also encourage communities and families to look to one another.
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We already seen one of these planets, Aldhani.
Planets, like this are the exact reason why the death star was built
I still dislike the presentation of large companies as fundamentally evil. Yeah, this happens - looking at you, Amazon - but at the same time it caricatures people too much. How many wealthy people actually do try to make the world a better place. Imho, the evil big company is just a stupid trope.
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but with all the scrap ( star ships and cruisers crashed obviously ) but I have never heard of a battle previous to andor on Ferrix.. am I alone?? Or do I just not know??
They didn't crash there. They're older ships that were retired and flown to Ferrix for scrapping.
@@IsaacKuo ty 😊
You address many of the factors that play into the dynamic of revolutions.
Violent revolutions tend to just supplant one oppressive system with another; nothing really changes except who is in charge.
Non-violent revolution empowers the disenfranchised and involves all demographics (not just the young and strong who are able to physically fight) and so results in lasting change that is more stable.
But, non-violent approaches take longer and are more challenging to build.
Little question: Should the two large Star Wars conflicts be renamed? The Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War are the two most influentail conflicts in the Star Wars history we have seen on screen and the names never quite sounded right to me.
First the Galactic Civil War was not something named in universe but called that by fans and EU writers. I found this definition for it "a politically organized, large-scale, sustained, physically violent conflict that occurs within a country principally among large/numerically important groups of its inhabitants or citizens over the monopoly of physical force within the country". Now you could argue that this applies to the Rebellion conflict with the Empire, but the Rebellion is clearly not a large scale effort and does not involve more than a statistically insignificant part of the population. Also the conflict is about more than control over the country or political power, it is about an ideological fight to overthrow a system to replace it with one based on other political aspirations. I think this definition of revolution is better adapted to the Rebellion's war "an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed". The Galactic Civil War should, at least I think be named the Galactic Revolution, plus it fits with the theme of Americans against Imperialist Brits. I have seen it be referred as such but it clearly is not the consensus and I think there is room for improvement in our discourse if we name things accurately
Now the Clone Wars is the other great conflict and apart from being made canon by Luke in ANH, why is it called the "clone war"? Why are clones, the important or impactful element that burned itself into the collective galactic memory. Why not droids? There were billions of them and they tried to destroy the core worlds, the winners that get to call the war. The Droid war would make more sense than the Clone wars considering there were only 6 million clones in all and they were "the Good guys" for the later Imperial Historians. But more importantly when you refer yourself to the previous definition I gave for Civil war it fits better. The Confederacy is a politically organized, large scale sustained, physically violent conflict that decided the control over the monopoly of physical force in a politie (the Monopoly of violence of Max Weber being the appetance of a sovereign State). Once again a parallel in American hsitory would be the US civil war. With an organized faction that presents as an independant State trying to secede from an original state, in order to be able to use its own ressources and instaure its own authoritarian exploitative political regime on populations farther away from the core of the country, for philosophical as well as economical interests. The Clone wars name fits this conflict far less than Galactic Civil War in my opinion.
I know these names are seered into canon at this point and it's too late to do anything about it but I would love your opinion on the nomenclature given to historical events in Star Wars.
Droids were used in wars in mass quantity for millennia, and there were also several actual droid rebellions which could be confusing since Separatist leadership weren't actually droids. The existence of clones created a philosophical debate on whether they should be considered living beings or should be classified the same as droids which had not occurred before since such a large number of clones had never existed. They were extremely unique to that war, and both sides weren't sure how clones should be treated. If the clones had not existed, it would have just continued being called the "Separatist Crisis" or "War of Separatist Secession", because droids were never the focal point of the political turmoil within the republic, and if not for the creation of the Empire, the role of clones in society would have created larger philosophical differences within the senate while people's opinions of droids would have largely remained the same.
Neither Revolution nor Civil War fit what the Galactic Civil War started as. It was a series of many different concurrent wars and revolts whose only unifying trait was the desire to destroy the empire, with little in common after that. The simplest way to name how it started is just a Galactic Rebellion. Every participant definitely were not trying to push a single ideology, and many definitely did not want to replace the government system, but that didn't matter as long as they all worked toward the same goal, which was to bring about the destruction of the Galactic Empire. Once these different rebellions unified it shifts into a Civil War because it didn't matter what ideology or sect you believe in, the only important side was "Imperial" or "Rebel". The end of the empire didn't occur at the end of episode 6, there was still a much larger war which continued to be fought which included a much larger portion of the population which was never shown in movies.
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Great video and deep and accurate analysis. As a person whose country is currently going on an uprising (and hopefully a revolution) against evil dictatorial regime, Andor show and this analysis was very inspiring and painfully realistic.
Yes, that made sense! 💕😂
Why? Because the have bricks…lots and lots of bricks
its depressing that Andor is over, wont be many more of your videos for 2 years minumum :(
So Ferix is basically space Afghanistan
I was thinking the same thing
Is Ferrix the Afghanistan of Star Wars?
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Well, here's the thing. This wasn't oppression for the dictatorshipness of it, this was oppression caused by sheer incompetence and oversight. When I watched the riot scene I really hoped that someone would kick the imp captains head in. If they had, the Imps wouldn't have been given the orders to fire. The lower ranking officer whom we also see is clearly more competent and would have handled the situation better, but it was by the dismissive oversight of the ISB that the captain was given overall control over the Ferrix garrison. The captain took the opportunity to ask for promotion, the ISB gave it without any thought. *That* is what caused the Rix Road massacre, not 'Imperial cruelty'. If only the kid had thrown the bomb at him instead becoming a terrorist by throwing it at a bunch of ammo crates
ISB Supervisor Blevin seems to have prioritized building his own little fiefdom. He naturally assigned a mediocre officer to lead the Ferrix garrison because assigning mediocre people keeps them dependent on him and also reduces potential threats from below. The captain was so slow on the uptake that he didn't even realize Blevin was there to give him an assignment. Sure, he asked for a sham "promotion" to have the title of Prefect, knowing it didn't involve any more pay, but that didn't really have any relevance to anything.
So, I think it wasn't dismissive oversight - I think Blevin put a mediocre officer in charge on purpose.
I mean, this is just the impression I get, from a very limited amount of screen time, and inferring from the overall picture. For example, Blevin's reports are all on time despite having a much larger number of sectors to manage than any of the others. To me, this implies that he values the reports being done on time rather than being done properly. And apparently his own report on Ferrix was significantly incomplete.
@@IsaacKuo I dunno, I think the captain downplayed the importance of being a prefect to Blevin and Blevin really did not care. Same goes for Dedra, she really did not care about the prefect in any way, I mean both their conversations end in such dismissive ways, Dedra tells him that she doesn't care what he does with Salman, not that he should execute him.
Luke Even Jabba never had a TV how did they get news about the galaxy
I understand that star wars is a typical western movie and its cannon doesn't make sense
But we have never gotten a true TV series showing what the Rebelion etc really was like.
For all the people that complain at least Star wars 1/2/3 showed us what the clone wars really was like. And used a camera style that looked real whist the current one looks fake
Thron did everything the empire didn't do
I don’t know, we achieved peace with Japan when we nuked them. Probably the only time that worked tough.
Disclaimer: It’s a joke, the threat of Russian invasion probably scared the Japanese into surrendering as well as the bombs
Japan's first 5 offers of surrender were rejected because the Americans wanted to use their nukes as a demonstration.
@@danbeaulieu2130 no it’s because the Japanese refused to unconditionally surrender.
Why didn't they split into 3 different republics, like the romans
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the key to defeating fascism has always been solidarity . I want to live on planet Ferrix
Here is something allot us missed we are all just bricks in the wall........
Well if the empire dies on Ferrix then it brings to my mind Afghanistan, the graveyard of empires.
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This show demonstrates how enjoyable fantasy is. In fantasy, an oppressive entity can be defeated. The reality is reflected in places like China, Russia, and Iran.