The x-brace is one if the best cheap mods to the e36. Definitely tightens up steering feel, and as a bonus it protects the oil pan. Some subframes are already threaded for them, if not, it's easy enough to install the nutserts. What a difference they make though.
Penetrating spray and acetylene or mapp gas is your friend when breaking loose stuck tie rods. The pipe wrench trick definitely helps. 5/8" is 16mm while 1/2" is 13mm. Another thing I noticed is your running the non-m front sway link setup. You'll notice a huge difference with the sway link pickup point attached to the strut, (m3 struts attach this way for a reason.) You can buy cnc'd tabs from akgmotorsport.com or cut some off a pair of junk m3 struts and weld them on. The sway bar has much more of a 'levering' effect this way. You can also buy off the shelf adjustable endlinks or make your own out of heim joints, jamb nuts and threaded shift rods like I did. Coleman racing sells the threaded shift rod, and pegasus racing the heim ends and jamb nuts. This will allow you to dial in your preload exactly like you want it. Great bang-for-buck mod if you ever track your car or drive it hard.
If those 16" wheels are from an e39 like I'm guessing they are, you need hubcentric centering rings. The e39 uses a 74.1mm hub, while the e36 is a 72.56mm. The centerbore on the e39 wheels is larger. Without the rings you'll get a vibration and put unwanted stress on the lug bolts. The hub is designed to take the weight of the car and NOT the lugs. Hope that solves your vibration issue. EDIT: just watched the end of the video. You just mentioned what I said. My bad. I should've watched the whole thing before commenting on that part.
Another cool video man, love your e36! Liking the oem bit's that's how I would do it. Patients & you'll get there dude, I always wondered how those steering angle kits went lol
Awesome tutorial video bro, have just picked up a set of these adaptors with no instructions and this was an awesome help all the way in New Zealand bro.
Thoroughly enjoy vids, just got my first BMW 200,000 98 323is. Your keeping me going man! Like your wrenching style, pipe over ratchet, bare hands, welcome at my garage anytime
Btw I don't know if you know the trick, but if you take a BFH and hit the side of the knuckle where the tie rod link goes through the end will pop right out without possibly mashing the nut and fucking up the threads on the link, or causing premature wear to the ball joint "socket" end of the link. That being said, this trick also works fantastic on the ball joints when it comes to removing the LCA. If you are reusing anything, this keeps the risk of unwanted slop and wear in the joints. You can also put another BFH against the knuckle and hit it with another BFH which totally keeps all the hammer marks off of the knuckle. Just a tip from over 25 years of turning wrenches on these cars.
I use same adapters (but 25% extra lock on M3 knuckles). It was same story with cutting tie rods (inner and outer one). I had some headaches but it's worth it - it's cheap ghetto angle kit haha. I should extend control arms but i didn't using 30mm spacers and 17x7.5 et30ish wheels instead. I found later on full lock control arm ball joint rubbing into the brake disc WTF, might be because non arms with M3 knuckles though. So I welded some bump stops to reduce slightly the max lock. Overall car is good , definitely steering response is much different. If you have a buddy who can chop the knuckles and reweld them might be better IMO
27.60$ on E-Bay work great fit perfectly and the cheaper ones are identical to the hundred dollar set. I have had expensive and cheap couldn't even tell the difference at all
@ Austin Ferguson, I had put e46 arms and e90 outer tie rods which I cut to be about a centimeter longer than the stock ones. I adjusted toe so that it was around 1/8 an inch in total toe out. When I don't initatie using the hydro or clutch kicking, so when I try and use a flick, I have understeer issues. Don't know if you've experienced the same issues I have. Not sure what to adjust, what do you think it could be. Drove my friends bmw who had put e46 arms, left the stock tie rods, and used the tierod ebay spacers you have, I drove his car and it doesn't feel quite right either...
You may observed already or will very soon, your Akerman Angle is near zero and your car is understeering badly in close corners/turns like when doing a U turn in a parking. I also have this adapters and they are very nice for drifting but you should sacrifice with the steering when driving normaly. Also, going forward and sharing my experience with E46 control arms and excentric bushings, it will give you a lot wider track about 2inches per wheel but unfortunately it will not give you a lot more space for the wheel to get a bigger angle. Good luck!
Hey. I know you probably don't get this often but would you be willing to make a stick cam while your drifting ? It would be cool to get a shifting tutorial to while drifting !
Not sure if youll reply since its an older vid but do you remember how much you cut off the tie rods to make it work and if their was any issues with that?
What headlights are those? I was going to do a light bar conversion on my e36, but I rather keep that OEM look to a certain extent. I'm going to start uploading videos of my car too! I installed some BC DR coilovers today but got too shy to film hahaha. keep up the videos.
whats better for more angle having a tie rod cutting and stock control arms or tie rod giving a lot of toe out and extending lower control arms or they are the same ?
I actually have 30mm spacers and low offset e38 wheels (the wheels are over 2in's farther out than stock). The main problem is the stock e36 control arms. I need to get e46/extended control arms, which would push the wheels out even farther and give me the clearance I need. +Marco S.
i am running rackspacers this lockkit from driftworks and e46 control arms you get a little bit more angle with e46 arms and camber you can buy poly bushings for e46 that fits in to the lolli bush on e36 or just grind down e46 arms to fit in to the bushing :)
daniel0663 i am running right now stock e36 wheels 195 65 15 at front with 35mm spcers they do not rub but will be running style 32 17" inch at the front for a little more grip
They've held up great and essentially still look new. They're also very comfortable and they won't make you sweat like stock leather seats. I'd definitely recommend them. +Steve Sanchez
with e46 arms your wheels will hit the inner arm (e46 arms are useless with this much lock, as they are much wider than e36 ones) Have u read my comment above? ;)
XikoGoPro interesting. I have e46 arms these same adapters 25mm spacers and camber plates with 18x9 front wheels with 225/40 tires on my e36 m3 and have no rubbing issues or problems with my wheels rubbing the tie rods
once a month in goldsboro that have been pretty big. the first one i attended had over 100+ cars and the second one didnt have as many but still a good turn out its held at the old k mart parking lot
i own a e36 320ci and i was wondering if they fit cuz i could only see that you need 46s arms cuz else they wont fit, but man are you a hero. while watching ive orded them and i cant wait to get some angle on that btch :). (ive got spacers on my front wheels so i wont have that clearance issue)
The x-brace is one if the best cheap mods to the e36. Definitely tightens up steering feel, and as a bonus it protects the oil pan. Some subframes are already threaded for them, if not, it's easy enough to install the nutserts. What a difference they make though.
Penetrating spray and acetylene or mapp gas is your friend when breaking loose stuck tie rods. The pipe wrench trick definitely helps. 5/8" is 16mm while 1/2" is 13mm.
Another thing I noticed is your running the non-m front sway link setup. You'll notice a huge difference with the sway link pickup point attached to the strut, (m3 struts attach this way for a reason.) You can buy cnc'd tabs from akgmotorsport.com or cut some off a pair of junk m3 struts and weld them on. The sway bar has much more of a 'levering' effect this way. You can also buy off the shelf adjustable endlinks or make your own out of heim joints, jamb nuts and threaded shift rods like I did. Coleman racing sells the threaded shift rod, and pegasus racing the heim ends and jamb nuts. This will allow you to dial in your preload exactly like you want it. Great bang-for-buck mod if you ever track your car or drive it hard.
Looking forward to seeing your build completed!
Don't worry about you're audience your doing a fantastic job love your videos you're likeable guy hang in there we all love you
Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot! +C0C0 CAT
Waited this video like a kid for christmas. Thanks austin keep up the good work! and keep it sideways
I'm stoked you made this vid, I was just looking at these for my e46 but wasn't %100 sure how they went on.
I'm glad you found it helpful, and I wasn't even aware they made them for E46's.
the front axles are so similar that it would be funny if they didn't
If those 16" wheels are from an e39 like I'm guessing they are, you need hubcentric centering rings. The e39 uses a 74.1mm hub, while the e36 is a 72.56mm. The centerbore on the e39 wheels is larger. Without the rings you'll get a vibration and put unwanted stress on the lug bolts. The hub is designed to take the weight of the car and NOT the lugs. Hope that solves your vibration issue.
EDIT: just watched the end of the video. You just mentioned what I said. My bad. I should've watched the whole thing before commenting on that part.
I've said it once and ill say it again, your builds are fire🔥🔥🔥
Another cool video man, love your e36! Liking the oem bit's that's how I would do it. Patients & you'll get there dude, I always wondered how those steering angle kits went lol
You look absolutely exhausted in these last few videos, don't wear yourself out too much man happy to wait for quality content
Awesome tutorial video bro, have just picked up a set of these adaptors with no instructions and this was an awesome help all the way in New Zealand bro.
Super stoked for a vid on how to diy angel eye halos on a budget! Wanted that on my mustang for a while so I'll follow your instructions!!
I should be doing it pretty soon, I'm hoping it'll help a bunch od people out. +Trevor Plagg
Thoroughly enjoy vids, just got my first BMW 200,000 98 323is. Your keeping me going man! Like your wrenching style, pipe over ratchet, bare hands, welcome at my garage anytime
I'd check toe again it can cause that shake, and I'd go with e46 arms for sure they will give you clearance everywhere you need it!!!
+1 on the e46 arms for drifting duty. Probably the best cost effective choice for a budget drifter.
Btw I don't know if you know the trick, but if you take a BFH and hit the side of the knuckle where the tie rod link goes through the end will pop right out without possibly mashing the nut and fucking up the threads on the link, or causing premature wear to the ball joint "socket" end of the link. That being said, this trick also works fantastic on the ball joints when it comes to removing the LCA. If you are reusing anything, this keeps the risk of unwanted slop and wear in the joints. You can also put another BFH against the knuckle and hit it with another BFH which totally keeps all the hammer marks off of the knuckle. Just a tip from over 25 years of turning wrenches on these cars.
nice to see you still working on it ;-)
Stop promissing drifting videos and upload!!!!!
Go with lower profile tires & you will have a lot more room!
You need e46 control arms Its make it a lot wider
E36 extended arms are better E46 arms are shit
@@lights0ut503 😂
I use same adapters (but 25% extra lock on M3 knuckles). It was same story with cutting tie rods (inner and outer one). I had some headaches but it's worth it - it's cheap ghetto angle kit haha. I should extend control arms but i didn't using 30mm spacers and 17x7.5 et30ish wheels instead. I found later on full lock control arm ball joint rubbing into the brake disc WTF, might be because non arms with M3 knuckles though. So I welded some bump stops to reduce slightly the max lock. Overall car is good , definitely steering response is much different. If you have a buddy who can chop the knuckles and reweld them might be better IMO
so you absolutely had to cut the tie rods? couldn’t just adjust them to make them short ?
27.60$ on E-Bay work great fit perfectly and the cheaper ones are identical to the hundred dollar set. I have had expensive and cheap couldn't even tell the difference at all
This 36 makes mine look like a clean one!
5:42 That hammer Tho!!!
@ Austin Ferguson, I had put e46 arms and e90 outer tie rods which I cut to be about a centimeter longer than the stock ones. I adjusted toe so that it was around 1/8 an inch in total toe out. When I don't initatie using the hydro or clutch kicking, so when I try and use a flick, I have understeer issues. Don't know if you've experienced the same issues I have. Not sure what to adjust, what do you think it could be. Drove my friends bmw who had put e46 arms, left the stock tie rods, and used the tierod ebay spacers you have, I drove his car and it doesn't feel quite right either...
You may observed already or will very soon, your Akerman Angle is near zero and your car is understeering badly in close corners/turns like when doing a U turn in a parking. I also have this adapters and they are very nice for drifting but you should sacrifice with the steering when driving normaly.
Also, going forward and sharing my experience with E46 control arms and excentric bushings, it will give you a lot wider track about 2inches per wheel but unfortunately it will not give you a lot more space for the wheel to get a bigger angle.
Good luck!
Im using that and e46 control arms. I recommend that. Also i recommend not buying those adapters in aluminium
someone buy this kid a vice
and a windshield plus hammer , he needs a lot more
@@skreech01 a taillight lol
E46 control arms will sort out you rubbing problem also e46 60mm compact bushes will fit the e36 lollipops
Hey. I know you probably don't get this often but would you be willing to make a stick cam while your drifting ? It would be cool to get a shifting tutorial to while drifting !
you need logest arms or specers 4cm and front wheels from e23 with et10 ant tires 205/40/45
Bro what did you do in this pipe I love The sound 🔥🔥🔥🥺🥺
Dont tint front lights. Also would you like crystal clear tail lights?
Not sure if youll reply since its an older vid but do you remember how much you cut off the tie rods to make it work
and if their was any issues with that?
Do the e46 brake caliper upgrade swaps right in and braided brake lines
wow it's dang good looking !!
you should do e46 arms next
how have those ebay seats hold up?
What have you done since the rubbing?? My e46 has same angle adapters just not tie rod spacers yet but the wheels totally hit the frame rails!!
The E46 aluminum swingarm should be inserted and the wheel will not fall into the raincover because the e46 swingarm is 2.5cm longer than the original
Austin you should definitely keep the angel eyes 😍
I've already got some CCFL ones for the OEM lights. I'll be doing a how to video on installing them. +Narc Gaming
tight work dude
What headlights are those? I was going to do a light bar conversion on my e36, but I rather keep that OEM look to a certain extent. I'm going to start uploading videos of my car too! I installed some BC DR coilovers today but got too shy to film hahaha. keep up the videos.
firee content. moar e36 !!!
whats better for more angle having a tie rod cutting and stock control arms or tie rod giving a lot of toe out and extending lower control arms or they are the same ?
Austin i'm waiting nearly few months for your turbo install and intercooler.
Why not go with e46 control arms and e90 tie rods? Would definitely help
So picking up some of these for my e30...
Did you feel tie rod shacking?
Maaaaad! I just slammed my e36 👌🏻👌🏻
so if u did not have rack spacers would the tie rods still need to be chopped? im assuming they wouldn't?
What was the reason you cut the tie rods? What would happen if you didn't cut them?
You could simply get spacers and over fenders and the wheels won't hit the frame
I actually have 30mm spacers and low offset e38 wheels (the wheels are over 2in's farther out than stock). The main problem is the stock e36 control arms. I need to get e46/extended control arms, which would push the wheels out even farther and give me the clearance I need. +Marco S.
i am running rackspacers this lockkit from driftworks and e46 control arms you get a little bit more angle with e46 arms and camber you can buy poly bushings for e46 that fits in to the lolli bush on e36 or just grind down e46 arms to fit in to the bushing :)
daniel0663 i am running right now stock e36 wheels 195 65 15 at front with 35mm spcers they do not rub but will be running style 32 17" inch at the front for a little more grip
how are the seats holding up? i wanted to buy some but im not sure if they comfortable
They've held up great and essentially still look new. They're also very comfortable and they won't make you sweat like stock leather seats. I'd definitely recommend them. +Steve Sanchez
Do you need to cut your tie rods if you're running E46 arms?
I wanna buy a car but I have to wait till summer to work in the field bc of school any ideas of cheap ass rwd cars?
Waiting for so long for a new vid, got hyped, expecting turbo build.. Nope no turbo build for you :(
Mind telling us what tire and wheels specs you have in the front? I'm going for a 17x9 wheel, yes it will be fun :/
greetings to all friend a question that adapter only serves for bmw or is universal
I'm so jealous my e36 is rusted af whiles these guys that are making video of there e36 is so cool
Those driftwork locks have taper? I got a different brand lock and had no luck, the tie rods just wallow out and get loose, not usable or safe
Why did you not use E90 inner tie rods?
Rack spacers no more than 4mm or bye bye rack :)
why not buy the 30% ones? I saw driftworks only sells 20% but why?
Try bondoing the trim on the side of the car and making it flush with the rest of the car
Remove the nuts to the adapters and put loctite on the threads otherwise the nuts will get loose.
Good idea, I'll definitely do it for some extra peace of mind. +22juni
Whos the other youtuber who sent you the adapters?
more camber on the front :) Just get some E46 lower control arms :)
Where have u been bro?!
Hey man im from Fayetteville do you know when and where is the next event
The authorities must be easy going over there because If u were in Australia (which is a stupid "Nanny state") this car would be defected to Hell !!
you only doing angle videos...
what about the turbo build????
Would these still work if I had e46 arms on my e36?
If you were to fit these with e46 lower control arms would you need to chop as much off of the tie rod end threads?
I believe they'd work perfect with E46 arms, I doubt you would need cut the tie rod ends at all.+RadReviews
oh okay perfect. thanks a lot mate! (great video btw ;) )
with e46 arms your wheels will hit the inner arm (e46 arms are useless with this much lock, as they are much wider than e36 ones)
Have u read my comment above?
;)
XikoGoPro interesting. I have e46 arms these same adapters 25mm spacers and camber plates with 18x9 front wheels with 225/40 tires on my e36 m3 and have no rubbing issues or problems with my wheels rubbing the tie rods
Wheels rubbing the tie rods??
how many %% adapter do you have? 20? 25? 30?
It sounds like you live in the rainforest lol
Hey man you know of any local meets around the ecu area?
There's one going on tonight at 7 (it's at the Harris Teeter parking lot on Arlington) +Derrick Johnson
Austin Ferguson is that a regular meetup spot?
Yeah, it's there every Sunday at 7. There's also large meets in Goldsboro. +Derrick Johnson
Austin Ferguson where and when in Goldsboro? I live in Goldsboro
once a month in goldsboro that have been pretty big. the first one i attended had over 100+ cars and the second one didnt have as many but still a good turn out its held at the old k mart parking lot
why cutting the tie rods ??
Add your turbo
Hey do u still have the headlights
Salam dari indonesia bosku
Can someone clear up if its better to get e46 lower control arms for thus mod?
Will u ever wrap the car ???
Nope, but I do want to get it legitly painted at some point. +farting pony
Austin Ferguson be honest Austin that won't last
i own a e36 320ci and i was wondering if they fit cuz i could only see that you need 46s arms cuz else they wont fit, but man are you a hero. while watching ive orded them and i cant wait to get some angle on that btch :). (ive got spacers on my front wheels so i wont have that clearance issue)
Do you know if these adapters change your ackerman?
do you know if this is the case yet bro?
jambrad i think because they're linear they don't change ackerman but don't quote me on that
@austin ferguson
H2oi or bust bro
If you need e36 stuff i can find stuff here in Europe and ship them to you.
awesome
Take a shot every time he says "which"
Okkaaayyyy soooo
What coils are you running?
Just some cheapo Hottuning ones. They handle surprisingly well and are dirt cheap. I'd recommend them +Kamil Pisula
Bruh is you in sc. Hmu if you are. E36 squad
What does steering angle have to do with "bozo" ?
Why I bought a 240 when I could have a e36 for half the price idk
You shouldve just used e46 arms lol, wouldve saved you so much time.
Hey Austin, I Have a 94 BMW E36 Metallic Green hood. I will be more than glad to send it to you if you will give me a shout out.
All you had to do is install megasquirt to know and autotune
Why swapping engine v8
nice london , you speak muslim ?
this dude is from India, i can smell him from miles
@Flyoffgarage
"But other than that...."