Western 'fashion' these days: glue a rubber penis in your forehead and then just call it 'fashion'. That's what everything is these days. I live in the west. I hate this all. The decay, no values, everything is about 'look at me me memmemememeememe'
No one suppressed their freedom of expression. They wore those ridiculous outfits in China and roamed about freely. Just because they were not allowed into a cultural heritage site doesn’t mean their freedom has been suppressed. If I didn’t allow them into my house dressed like that, does it mean I suppressed their freedom? No…
@@mari-us6rh Are you discriminating non-human? I want the elephant or a rhino to have the right to express themselves in anywhere. Let's do that in the White House first.
By their standards, yes, you would be a violater of their human rights and 'freedom of expression'. Nevermind about your rights to impose rules of conduct in your own home.
It was deliberately done to be provocative and to elicit a reaction from the authorities so that they can smear China. It's like the band which deliberately staged a gay kiss in a public gig in Malaysia when they knew very well that Muslim law banned it. Then they posed as "victims".
I love your reply! Storefronts across the USA have signs "No shoes. No shirt. No Service."n Moreover, I have been in restaurants that require men to wear jackets. Some of these establishments will provide a loaner if the customer does not have one.
I dont see why not after biden shit himself in the Vatican, those clowns will think its ok to dress like that anywhere in the world. IF you need a licence to be a designer his licence needs to be revoked!.
that is the greatest tragedy of western misguided "freedom", in order to have complete freedom, you'd have encroach on others' freedom to NOT be influenced by a misguided set of values like trans as an example.
What "F"-reedom??? "F"-reedom to be disrespectful and to disrespect others??? "F"-reedom is also a secret weapon to begin a division among the subjects of a country and then rule the mind of the ignorant subjects with "F"-reedom to do stupidity!!!!
You’re visiting someone house, you follow their rules... People like these thinks they’re are above any rules & laws, what a bunch of entitled morons..🤨
Westerners have freepass and slap down other people with their passports as they walk by! this was definitely the belief with the British passport.... this is what we say when we say western double standards and western entitlement
The forbidden city is a historical cultural heritage site not a freak show ....for clowns ...if they want to " express their freedom of expression, do it where people dont give a damn like the usa. "
Well, at least they're still allowed to take photos in front of it. Some European countries completely ban burqa in public places in the whole country! Where's the outrage?
Well, in the eyes of western media, it is gender oppression if Muslimah wearing scarf, but if Muslimah not wearing scarf (in China) is a proof of cultural suppression.
@@spellman007 Yeah, that's the convenient excuse often used by the west. Ask the people who wear them, and 10 out of 10 will tell you it's their own choice. I myself agree with the ban because I would feel uncomfortable being near them. Same in the case here. It's simply double standards really.
@@spellman007 Well, they definitely made me take off my wool cap, and they were also alert for any signs of hat wearing inside the cathedral. I wasn't there for a service, though, but just to look around. I put my hat back on when I was near the exit and they started shouting, but I managed to escape before they could apprehend me.
Hey Rick, express your own 'freedom of expression' in your own country freely. China does not need to accede to your standard of 'freedom of expression'. China has its own freedom to express its view of thousands of years of culture compared to yours. And as a nation, why should China accomodate you? You are the one visiting China. You should be educated enough to know: When in Rome do as the Romans do.
I agree. Really I have no problem with how he dresses and I actually like him as a designer (its not my style, but his stuff is pretty cool and unique still). I disagree with the comments saying somehow the way he dresses is immoral or harmful to anyone (people are calling it demonic when demons do not exist and its just fabric and make up lol). But I do think the Chinese have every right to tell people they cant enter a national heritage sight if they think the attire is disrespectful.
That is a reason why so many disaster all over the world, Some country try make every country Surrender to it. Some rainbow people want all other people surrender to them, BUT , WHY?
Forbidden City for friendly people, educated people, scholars and experts etc…but not for monsters, evils and trouble makers like these 4 monsters 👻👿☠️🤡
Only in China? Hardly. In Indonesia, we told Lady Gaga to dress appropriately or do not come. Who in the world turn away Lady Gaga? Well, we did! Period!
I don't think China viewed this as criminal, otherwise they would have been arrested. It was just very distasteful in a public place like the Forbidden City. Are they saying there is no place for appropriate dressing as far as defending Human Rights is concerned, a free for all everywhere?
I have no problems with that. It's their place, I will, as a guest, respect them. Like I would anyone's house, when visiting. It's not complicated at all.
I live in Bangkok , Western tourists sometimes turn up in inappropriate clothing to visit Thai temples. They are requested to wear a shirt bare shoulders and short skirts and shorts.
If you plan to visit anywhere, the destination sets the rules and limits for what is acceptable to them, not you the visitor. If you want to express yourself it must be within the acceptable limits of the site.
The action taken by the security guard was exactly an act of freedom of expression; expressed his feelings and got visitors out who were dressed disrespectfully!
@@choifayue9848 lol "free" = cheap and low lmao ?! To the majority with normal beauty standards, they merely portrays themselves as weirdos/jester/clowns ...
I've been to temples in Thailand that also require those who visit to cover their arms and not wear revealing clothing. The Grand Palace in Bangkok has even more strict rules. Since Thailand is portrayed as a fairly liberal and open country, nobody seems to report on it. China is currently being smeared at every opportunity by the West, and this just seems like feeble attempt to paint China as an inflexible and authoritarian country, without taking into account any context.
When I went to China in a business trip from Mozambique, I made sure to respect everyone/everything around. I also noted that, until my departure, the Chinese respected me back. I wonder why.
Well a lady few years ago in the U.S. wore a crop top boarding a local airline, got kick off the plane. In Asia, Thailand toursist need to dress properly in order to go to Royal palace. Staffs have right to do that.
They should count themselves lucky to be allowed to room the streets of Beijing dressed the way they did. I’ll be surprised if they didn’t scare half the local population.
There's a thing called fashion and then there's a thing called common decency. If you can't be decent in public. You don't have human rights. Simple as that. How can you infringe on the human rights of others of not having to be attacked by your hideous bullshit. Then gaslighting other people.
They have a so called "fashion firm", therefore I think they deliberately provoked the incident (they knew they would have probably been kicked out like that, it's just common sense) to make up a case on the internet and promote their firm under the momentary spotlight. Otherwise none would know they even exist. The worst kind of opportunists, in my opinion. Thank you Andy for your great work as always! Correction: To my surprise Rick Owens seems to be very famous.😵💫 I honestly didn't know him at all. I still think publicity is never enough, but maybe they went there just for a photoshooting, who knows. I can definitely understand the reaction of the Forbidden City's staff, though...🤣
Rick Owens is already one of the biggest fashion designers in the world. He doesn't need the publicity. I think they went to forbidden city to shoot some photos of his models but I don't think he expected to be told he cant enter. However because he is a rich and famous fashion designer he does not experience being told he cant do something very often (much less cant dress the way he is dresses), and took particular offense. But yeah, Rick Owens the the biggest and most famous "gothic" designer in the world.
@@jamescelliers3195 Really? Didn't know he was so famous, but it's also true that his style is not exactly my genre. 😆 Thank you for letting me know, though. Of course publicity is never too much, but if he is so famous he probably isn't used to be denied access as you said. Who knows, maybe if he filed a request for a photoshooting instead of appearing in front of the entrance the way he did he could have find a proper time and spot to do it, but still... it's an historical and heritage site, it's quite normal to deny access to people dressed like the Cenobites from Hellraiser. 😂
@@micheledangelo9391 yeah I like his stuff even if I wouldn't buy it, its not for me but I think its still cool and some people are in to neo-gothic style fashion. I am confident they actually sell Rick Owens clothes in China itself. I said the same in another comment in regards to him being allowed in if he had just asked for permission first, and I agree the Chinese have every right to say they think its disrespectful and tell him he cant do it.
@@jamescelliers3195 Indeed. Asking permission first is usually the standard behaviour when it comes to things like photoshooting in public places and stuff.👍 They can still say no, but at least it's less embarassing than being kicked out like that.
If someone "hates a place/ makes trouble for a place," of course, he or she would "wear some unsuitable clothing" to pay "no respect" and "arouse people's attention" at the site. Such as "wearing a bikini" when "entering a church," claiming to have the "freedom" to do so.
Whenever there is a dresscode and your outfit doesn't match it, you can make a decision whether it is important enough for you to visit that place and adapt, or to just leave. Not a big deal.
If they wear the exact same thing and get into the Cave of Apocalyspse on the Greek (EU) island of Patmos, then maybe they have a case. I think they don't even let woman in last I check (quite a few years ago). And that's an EU place.
I mean Forbidden City is not a neighbourhood park, it's technically "The Palace Museum". So, museums have rules, museums have codes, and people will get turned away for disturbing behaviours. Simple as that
Vatican,The Forbidden city & The Heavenly palace, are historic sites one of its kind on this world. What if I told you,I was refused entry into a Hindu temple compound of 100square meters,out of the touristic path,in Bali,if I am not wearing a loin cloth around my waist. Refuse entry to Beijing's 600 years-old-Forbidden city equals stifled freedom of expression.etc This is demagoguery,an extreme oversimplication of my human rights choice. And scapegoating. Righteousness for Dummies.
I would like to refer to one comment I saw yesterday, "China respects your freedom of dressing in public, have you done the same to the centuries old solemnly Forbidden City."
If they enter Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any Muslim country, what will the reaction of the authorities or the general public will be? If they walk down the UK high street, they will be mocked and teased.
"fashion" ? Just disgusting !
Western 'fashion' these days: glue a rubber penis in your forehead and then just call it 'fashion'. That's what everything is these days. I live in the west. I hate this all. The decay, no values, everything is about 'look at me me memmemememeememe'
Repugnant - good choice of vocabulary.
they're staining the word 'fashion'.....
@@Alonebe yeah this is a pathetic excuse of fashion.
@@fatdoi003 I agree.
No one suppressed their freedom of expression. They wore those ridiculous outfits in China and roamed about freely. Just because they were not allowed into a cultural heritage site doesn’t mean their freedom has been suppressed. If I didn’t allow them into my house dressed like that, does it mean I suppressed their freedom? No…
What are Chinese people so afraid of? 😂
Booooom! details and nuance!
They don't look like human at all!!!
@@mari-us6rh Are you discriminating non-human? I want the elephant or a rhino to have the right to express themselves in anywhere. Let's do that in the White House first.
By their standards, yes, you would be a violater of their human rights and 'freedom of expression'. Nevermind about your rights to impose rules of conduct in your own home.
Why do these types of people think that the world revolves around them? shows complete disregard for local customs and norms
It's very annoying. Everything is about them, they think.
Hubris
@@notjeff7833 well if you come out of the US and its allies wood work than this happens.
Because they are Americans and they think they rule the world and everyone should conform to their values only …. Revolting 🤦🏼🤦🏼
It was deliberately done to be provocative and to elicit a reaction from the authorities so that they can smear China. It's like the band which deliberately staged a gay kiss in a public gig in Malaysia when they knew very well that Muslim law banned it. Then they posed as "victims".
Forbidden city is not a playground. Get lost.
Exactly. If you have no respect for the country you visit, where you are welcomed as a guest, stay home.
Ask them to fly kite😅
Hear! Hear!
I love your reply! Storefronts across the USA have signs "No shoes. No shirt. No Service."n Moreover, I have been in restaurants that require men to wear jackets. Some of these establishments will provide a loaner if the customer does not have one.
🤣🤣🤣
Even though I am not a Chinese Citizen and not living in China, I won't have those weird people into my house!
I am sure they will be refused entry to most homes in the US too!
Could always flush fecal matter
These are degenerates which sane people don't allow.
man not even my front yard
Ask them if they are bold enough to dress this in Vatican？
Touché!
They only love to get on their 'morally superior' high horse to lecture/disrespect Asian cultures.
Of course they would. Ask them if they are bold enough to dress like this in Mecca
@@ryan.1990 after what Israel did to Muslim countries, I don't think there'll be resistance against them going to Mecca
I dont see why not after biden shit himself in the Vatican, those clowns will think its ok to dress like that anywhere in the world.
IF you need a licence to be a designer his licence needs to be revoked!.
These people always ask for respect but never give any.
💯🎯🎯🎯
lol
They give headache and this is not halloween, its true in 🇹🇭🙏🏻 if you are going to visited a buddhist temple got to follow some rules.
that is the greatest tragedy of western misguided "freedom", in order to have complete freedom, you'd have encroach on others' freedom to NOT be influenced by a misguided set of values like trans as an example.
Good to see the Chinese still have some common sense and sanity left. That's why I am learning Chinese now. I am done with the west
Bringing your madness with you.
@@yaelz6043Think he is quite sensible actually and you sound ignorant
What "F"-reedom??? "F"-reedom to be disrespectful and to disrespect others??? "F"-reedom is also a secret weapon to begin a division among the subjects of a country and then rule the mind of the ignorant subjects with "F"-reedom to do stupidity!!!!
@@Merdacity your kind always has its excuses.
@@yaelz6043 no I am just blatant and saying the bleeding obvious- we westerners are being a bunch of deadshits to Asians
Calling that garbage fashion is just trash, respect the local culture or stay out.
If you find clothing “disrespectful” to thousands of years of history then you are severely sensitive & dangerously uptight.
Literally just edgy capitalist decay degeneracy 😂 not at all genuine art lmao
More suited to be in a Halloween movie😮
@@TN-ju4roBingo! 🎉
Fashion for Walking Dead😂
You’re visiting someone house, you follow their rules...
People like these thinks they’re are above any rules & laws, what a bunch of entitled morons..🤨
So you think everyone should be forced to follow traditional values? Mao is rolling in his grave! What a disgrace.
Westerners have freepass and slap down other people with their passports as they walk by! this was definitely the belief with the British passport....
this is what we say when we say western double standards and western entitlement
Yes, while in Rome do as the Romanians do.
If they don't respect other's culture in their house then no one need to respect these people. Dress appropriately or get kick out.
That’s my comparison too …well said
The world is getting tired of these woke people.
Animals, not people
Thats right they will bring all 47 different genders to china if you give them the chance.
THAT has absolutely NOTHING to do with woke... 🙄
Woke freaks..
Fuck western bullshit
The forbidden city is a historical cultural heritage site not a freak show ....for clowns ...if they want to " express their freedom of expression, do it where people dont give a damn like the usa. "
🎯👏🏾
I was NOT allowed to walk in USA city streets naked. No freedom. (For) My arse. Lol.
The White House?
@@EddieHah-r8r
Definitely.
I think there should be a special visa category for "freedom loving" Americans in all other countries.
Well, at least they're still allowed to take photos in front of it.
Some European countries completely ban burqa in public places in the whole country!
Where's the outrage?
Well said👏👏👏
Well, in the eyes of western media, it is gender oppression if Muslimah wearing scarf, but if Muslimah not wearing scarf (in China) is a proof of cultural suppression.
People who are outraged and protest get arrested. So called western demon crazy
Burkas are sexist. People dressed quirky is not. Very simple really.
@@spellman007 Yeah, that's the convenient excuse often used by the west. Ask the people who wear them, and 10 out of 10 will tell you it's their own choice. I myself agree with the ban because I would feel uncomfortable being near them. Same in the case here. It's simply double standards really.
1:28 "It's humiliating and dehumanizing..."
Very well said.
You mean shitty clothes. 😅
😂
EXACTLY!!! Also calling ur brand 💩 is so 🤢sickening
When they are guest in another country, they should respect the rules in the country. It's not complicated, at all.
When in Rome… etc etc
Dress appropriately. Many tourists locations turned away tourists inappropriately dressed.
Notre Dame Cathedral, in Paris, has an army of security guards, and if you are wearing a hat when you enter, they will make sure you take it off.
Not true. I was at there for the Easter service. Many people in the public wore hats.
@@spellman007 Well, they definitely made me take off my wool cap, and they were also alert for any signs of hat wearing inside the cathedral. I wasn't there for a service, though, but just to look around. I put my hat back on when I was near the exit and they started shouting, but I managed to escape before they could apprehend me.
im not a fashion icon or what not BUT that fashion should be forbidden everywhere!!!
Yeah no county should allow this sorry excuse of fashion in tourist spots or everywhere outside of the US and its vessels.
that 'fashion' design group is not called Fecal Matter for nothing!
Only one day Halloween, other days grow up, it’s not celebrated here😂😂😂
.... especially in the Forbidden City.
I thot Halloween is on 31 Oct? Today is 22 Oct.
These 4 things don’t looks like human
Maturity is something these narcissists don't have. Respect for them is a one way street.
Disney World does not allow adults to wear costumes, and I am sure they will be turned away there, too.
Some people are just not people.
Hey Rick, express your own 'freedom of expression' in your own country freely. China does not need to accede to your standard of 'freedom of expression'. China has its own freedom to express its view of thousands of years of culture compared to yours. And as a nation, why should China accomodate you? You are the one visiting China. You should be educated enough to know: When in Rome do as the Romans do.
Totally agree 👍
I concur...rick owen go back to USA...who u think u are!
Well said
I agree. Really I have no problem with how he dresses and I actually like him as a designer (its not my style, but his stuff is pretty cool and unique still). I disagree with the comments saying somehow the way he dresses is immoral or harmful to anyone (people are calling it demonic when demons do not exist and its just fabric and make up lol). But I do think the Chinese have every right to tell people they cant enter a national heritage sight if they think the attire is disrespectful.
Yaoguai 👹are forbidden to enter Heavenly Palace
Yeah they look more like monsters than people.
Where is Sun Wukong when you need him?
@@PhiloSurfer
These are too small a matter to involve SunWukong.
@@FrankiePo89 yeah just take them back where they came from and problem solved.
Exactly 👍 Very well said.
The old saying goes "when in Rome do as Roman do", so goes for China or any country for that matter.
Your home your rules! My home my rules!
That is a reason why so many disaster all over the world, Some country try make every country Surrender to it. Some rainbow people want all other people surrender to them,
BUT , WHY?
They should try entering Taj Mahal in india, the world most populous democratic country in the same attire and let see what happens
LOL
Go to that place in India where even lizards get pregnant?
I recommend they try their "fashion" show at Toliet Yasukuni, aka Yasukuni shrine, you can't find a more fitting place than that.
Good one
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Why don’t the bunch of weirdos 5:06 5:06 get into the UK Buckingham Palace. I’m pretty sure the security will turn them away
if my kid dresses like that with her friends, i won't even let them enter my home.....
yes
Forbidden City for friendly people, educated people, scholars and experts etc…but not for monsters, evils and trouble makers like these 4 monsters 👻👿☠️🤡
I am so tired of people so full of themselves they have no respect for anyone or anything. 🇨🇦
Only in China? Hardly. In Indonesia, we told Lady Gaga to dress appropriately or do not come. Who in the world turn away Lady Gaga? Well, we did! Period!
BRAVO!!! 👏👏👏👏👏Your country, your rule! 😂😂😂😂😂
He is right, it is criminal to be wearing whatever that outfit is!
I don't think China viewed this as criminal, otherwise they would have been arrested. It was just very distasteful in a public place like the Forbidden City. Are they saying there is no place for appropriate dressing as far as defending Human Rights is concerned, a free for all everywhere?
Andy is like a Perez Hilton for panda huggers
The guards and officers at the Forbidden City have their rights to deny entry to anyone without giving any reason.
Likewise, women tourists are asked to cover their bare head before entering mosques, or temples of worship.
I have no problems with that. It's their place, I will, as a guest, respect them. Like I would anyone's house, when visiting. It's not complicated at all.
Ya patriarchy is still dominating globally.
Mind your own business.
@@spellman007 What is your problem with other people's traditions? You don't have to visit them.
I live in Bangkok , Western tourists sometimes turn up in inappropriate clothing to visit Thai temples. They are requested to wear a shirt bare shoulders and short skirts and shorts.
Freedom of expression? Does it include walking into the forbidden city without any clothings?
They deserved what they asked for,,, they just wanted attention nothing else... Respect is mutual, not a birth right. Love your show as always Andy❤
Human Rights? Are they humans? certainly don't look one.
CIA hired them!
Cultural emissaries par excellence.
😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
They were asked by the Forbidden City staff to change their clothes because they frightened the children into crying
As soon as I saw their disgusting outfits, I immediately thought kids would be horrified.
It‘s your business that you don’t respect your country, but please respect other people‘s countries.
I think there is a fine line between tolerance and imposition.
Forbidden city is not a place to allowed you express your evil minded.
Follow the house rules.... simple. 💡🕊
That's demonic fashion.
Demons are not real. Its literally just fabric and make up.
I've been turned away from restaurants for wearing shorts. This is really not a surprising outcome.
If you plan to visit anywhere, the destination sets the rules and limits for what is acceptable to them, not you the visitor. If you want to express yourself it must be within the acceptable limits of the site.
The action taken by the security guard was exactly an act of freedom of expression; expressed his feelings and got visitors out who were dressed disrespectfully!
They should be deported.
The US a circus and thinks that everyone in the world wants to see their clown show, I exist in a world of grown-ups. Stop this now, selfish.
Have them visit the White House or the State Senate 👍👍
They have them there anyway. That's them.
😂😂😂👍👍👍That's true 😂😂👍
" WHEN IN ROME, DO WHAT THE ROMANS DO."
Absolutely agree 👍 but to those armuriyankee they think they are exceptional
"While in Rome do as Romans do." It's simple as that. Respect the culture.
maybe US Congress should make dress code like that compulsory 😂
Is that even 'Fashion?' Even I wouldn't let anyone dressed like this into my home.
Hats off to China.
In America every homeowner knows weeds doesn't belong to a lawn🤣
They can try that in the white House:))
With that fashion, they aren't even gonna access to my local steak house lol
didn't know "fashion" became so UGLY and LOW .... no wonder the decline
its a free ad for them it played right into their hands they loved it
@@choifayue9848 lol "free" = cheap and low lmao ?! To the majority with normal beauty standards, they merely portrays themselves as weirdos/jester/clowns ...
@@choifayue9848 yea you played into their hands .... LOL not normal folks
@@choifayue9848 my court jesters and clowns wear those
@@choifayue9848Even with these free ads, i won't have anything ugly like those outfits😅
I've been to temples in Thailand that also require those who visit to cover their arms and not wear revealing clothing. The Grand Palace in Bangkok has even more strict rules. Since Thailand is portrayed as a fairly liberal and open country, nobody seems to report on it. China is currently being smeared at every opportunity by the West, and this just seems like feeble attempt to paint China as an inflexible and authoritarian country, without taking into account any context.
1:14 man they look like they just got a day off from the circus 🎪 🤡.
forget cultural or religious sites, even a high end restaurants has dress code, you can't wear shorts and flip flop to the Savoy.
Honestly, I’ll be surprised if any restaurant lets them in. It’s not Halloween after all.
Those brainless designer come to people's country and do not respect the country culture. U want people to respect you, you must respect others first.
😂🤣😆 they are not from this planet. Aliens trying to be earthlings but landed in Paris and thinking Beijing is the same. 🤨😖
Part of the application package for the $1.6b anti china funding....
When you go to a palace museum dressing up like that, are you actually planning to look at the exhibits or trying to become one? 🤣🤣🤣
Not only forbidden city, these nonsense clothing should be forbidden in many public places.
These people are humiliating themselves.
1:54 "Respect is mutual" BOOM, exactly!
When I went to China in a business trip from Mozambique, I made sure to respect everyone/everything around. I also noted that, until my departure, the Chinese respected me back. I wonder why.
Well a lady few years ago in the U.S. wore a crop top boarding a local airline, got kick off the plane. In Asia, Thailand toursist need to dress properly in order to go to Royal palace. Staffs have right to do that.
They should count themselves lucky to be allowed to room the streets of Beijing dressed the way they did. I’ll be surprised if they didn’t scare half the local population.
Surprised China even allowed them into the country in the first place.
Not only children, even me as an adult will be terrified with that kind of evil styled dressing.
freedom of expression? When I use the"j" word in youtube channels my comment get deleted.
There's a thing called fashion and then there's a thing called common decency. If you can't be decent in public. You don't have human rights. Simple as that. How can you infringe on the human rights of others of not having to be attacked by your hideous bullshit. Then gaslighting other people.
Yeah they look like they come out of the clown 🤡 show.
Spot on.
Human rights are reserved for humans, not for demons.
Woke has no place on earth.
They have a so called "fashion firm", therefore I think they deliberately provoked the incident (they knew they would have probably been kicked out like that, it's just common sense) to make up a case on the internet and promote their firm under the momentary spotlight. Otherwise none would know they even exist. The worst kind of opportunists, in my opinion. Thank you Andy for your great work as always!
Correction: To my surprise Rick Owens seems to be very famous.😵💫 I honestly didn't know him at all. I still think publicity is never enough, but maybe they went there just for a photoshooting, who knows. I can definitely understand the reaction of the Forbidden City's staff, though...🤣
Yes that’s what it’s all about
Rick Owens is already one of the biggest fashion designers in the world. He doesn't need the publicity. I think they went to forbidden city to shoot some photos of his models but I don't think he expected to be told he cant enter. However because he is a rich and famous fashion designer he does not experience being told he cant do something very often (much less cant dress the way he is dresses), and took particular offense. But yeah, Rick Owens the the biggest and most famous "gothic" designer in the world.
@@jamescelliers3195 Really? Didn't know he was so famous, but it's also true that his style is not exactly my genre. 😆 Thank you for letting me know, though. Of course publicity is never too much, but if he is so famous he probably isn't used to be denied access as you said. Who knows, maybe if he filed a request for a photoshooting instead of appearing in front of the entrance the way he did he could have find a proper time and spot to do it, but still... it's an historical and heritage site, it's quite normal to deny access to people dressed like the Cenobites from Hellraiser. 😂
@@micheledangelo9391 yeah I like his stuff even if I wouldn't buy it, its not for me but I think its still cool and some people are in to neo-gothic style fashion. I am confident they actually sell Rick Owens clothes in China itself.
I said the same in another comment in regards to him being allowed in if he had just asked for permission first, and I agree the Chinese have every right to say they think its disrespectful and tell him he cant do it.
@@jamescelliers3195 Indeed. Asking permission first is usually the standard behaviour when it comes to things like photoshooting in public places and stuff.👍 They can still say no, but at least it's less embarassing than being kicked out like that.
No need to mention public places, I won't allow people dressed like that into my house.
That wasn't no fashion statement, they were paid to do this to mock China.
If someone "hates a place/ makes trouble for a place," of course, he or she would "wear some unsuitable clothing" to pay "no respect" and "arouse people's attention" at the site. Such as "wearing a bikini" when "entering a church," claiming to have the "freedom" to do so.
The dress code is always defined by the host, not a random guest.
Whenever there is a dresscode and your outfit doesn't match it, you can make a decision whether it is important enough for you to visit that place and adapt, or to just leave. Not a big deal.
No, guards were not too harsh. Agree with others that there are many places that require specific dress codes! Westerners just love to pick on China!
When you dress like a clown expect to get treated like one 😂
They are not expressing freedom. They are doing racial /cultural discrimination.
they didn't wear like that everyday everywhere, they did on purpose to challenge, so they lost.
If they wear the exact same thing and get into the Cave of Apocalyspse on the Greek (EU) island of Patmos, then maybe they have a case. I think they don't even let woman in last I check (quite a few years ago). And that's an EU place.
I mean Forbidden City is not a neighbourhood park, it's technically "The Palace Museum". So, museums have rules, museums have codes, and people will get turned away for disturbing behaviours. Simple as that
Vatican,The Forbidden city & The Heavenly palace, are historic sites one of its kind on this world.
What if I told you,I was refused entry into a Hindu temple compound of 100square meters,out of the touristic path,in Bali,if I am not wearing a loin cloth around my waist.
Refuse entry to Beijing's 600 years-old-Forbidden city equals stifled freedom of expression.etc
This is demagoguery,an extreme oversimplication of my human rights choice. And scapegoating.
Righteousness for Dummies.
They try to disrespect the local
and will cry like a wolf
Aye Man! I’m American. I got rights. I got freedom of expression. I got freedom running in my vein, you know what I mean, man ?
Grotesque.
How about Disneyland barring visitors dressed up as or just dressed in ways reminiscent of a character?!
Would they enter a church or a mosque dressed like that? It's called the Forbidden City for a reason.
I would like to refer to one comment I saw yesterday, "China respects your freedom of dressing in public, have you done the same to the centuries old solemnly Forbidden City."
That is indeed one hell of a good rebuttal.
Go take your "freedom of expression" somewhere else. Their country, their rules.
This lot of so call artists ask respect from others, but show absolutely no respect for other people's culture and tradition what bunch of hypocrites!
If they enter Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any Muslim country, what will the reaction of the authorities or the general public will be? If they walk down the UK high street, they will be mocked and teased.
Maybe they should go to the middle east dressed like that to express their rights of expression