Thanks for explaining the basics - this system looks great, but can be overwhelming. It would be nice if we had some kind of a brief description of what parts are doing what in the library (topped/standard/universal/full/simple/pop in/click in...).
This system is really great and flexible, and I’m already “bought in”, however… You NEED to do a better job of sorting, categorizing, and uploading helpful videos and/or “related items” that will help people understand what, how, and where to use the different parts on your website. There are SO MANY aspects to this system, which is great, but it results in it being EXTREMELY unapproachable for people. That’s the beauty of Gridfinity: there’s a base plate, things stack on the base plate. Other things can stack on those things. Easy and approachable. In making such a comprehensive, flexible, and multi-faceted system you’ve made it really difficult to work with as a newbie. Just my two cents. Thank you for all you do and your continuous hard work.
We've got a new website cooking (slowly) and we really hope to make the important and basic parts easier to find and clearer with better documentation soon, especially as more and more of the designs leave alpha/beta stage and become confirmed final elements!
I can see how it can be a bit intimidating at first because there are so many parts. but honestly, it's not as complicated as it seems. just start with printing multiboards and the mounting parts. Then gradually work your way through what you need. I'm personally loving all these options.
It's absolutely something we really want too! We're working on a simple tile focused tool that should be out relatively soon(tm) but eventually we would really love to make a full simulator too! It just might be a while, and we're going to have to find a way to fund it!
Darn you!!! Now I need more 3D printers to make all the Multiboard things! Really love the designs and flexibility of your whole system. Is it wrong that I sort of want to "buy" a bunch of the multiboard prints so that i can print all the accessories to use with them?
For the moment at least. We're still trying to keep active development going (and keep the bills paid) so it's a little more limited than the fully free Gridfinity, but we hope the part quality and careful development (along with future extra features and items) make it worth it!
if i wanted to design a commercial product and i wanted to make it compatible with multiboard would i also need a license? i'm just thinking to basically add holed with proper spacing and dimensions so that it can be attached to the multiboard. i don't require this for my product but i thought it would be nice to have and wouldn't increase the price for me, but if i need a commercial license then i would skip it.
Well the way I see it is that if you make a remix of a part and it's free for others to use and it's not a 99% copy of the original file then there is no need for a license. But if you were to sell it and it is recognisable as a remix then you would need a licence. Dose that make sense?
@@multiboard_io thanks. in this case i was thinking of adding holes that are spaced and sized to line up with the threaded holes in the multiboard so that someone could print out your screws (which i wouldn't include) and use them to attach it to their multiboard. if that's ok to do then my second question is if i can say that the product is compatible with multiboard or if i need a license?
@@petergibbons607 ya that's 1000% fine. Compatibility is always free and if anything encouraged no license needed at all for that. It's your own design that is just compatible with multiboard that's awesome! If fact here are the remix parts so you have some pre made holes for you : www.multiboard.io/parts-library/remixing
Does the draws have a retainment system to keep from opening if used on the go? Can you hang traditional part bin ie akro-mills on the multi point rails or another way?
The drawers do have retaining pins to prevent them falling out without being tilted up first. I am unsure if akro-mills bins can be directly added to multipoint rails, but it would be a fairly easy adapter part if not!
As an introduction, one massive omission is filament choice. Apart from strength and cost, printing difficulties including tolerances would concern me. Especially if using different materials for different parts. A community response here claims that plain PLA works fine. Was that what was being demonstrated (weightlifting kit and all)? Since it isn’t mentioned at all in the video, I would suggest that a pinned comment might save the same question coming up again and again. For newcomers to your system, it is a kinda important detail…
In one of the early videos he said he tested one of the pegboard hooks and it snapped at 70lbs. PLA has extremely high tensile strength so it’s a perfect choice for this, other materials have desireable characteristics such as heat resistance and such, but PLA is cheap and strong. If you are mounting this in a hot area then perhaps another material would be a good choice, but for 99% of people PLA is going to be best.
Im a bit confused, I want my drawers to have inserts. Is this even possible? is seems like only the drawer housings can have custom inserts and i don't really see why its like this. If i want a little box fitted with an insert for lets say a deburing tool set, if it were a drawer i could take it out from the front, but if it were in a bin id have to have at least the hight if the bin itself+ the height of the tool sticking out + a tiny bit of clearance. Seems like such a waste of space and my board would be half empty if i did this. I feel like I am missing something.
Ignore me if you already know this but that would be very easily done with Gridfinity and it's a system with much simpler basic principles while also being infinitely customizable -just searching "Gridfinity drawers" and "Gridfinity deburring" came up with several free preexisting options.
I am a member however the page does not recognize me as such. There is no place to sign in. If I go the the be a supporter page it says I am a supporter. But I cannot download the starter kits. And no I do not wish to download everyone individually. If I do then why would I have a membership.
If you are signed into Thangs it should allow you to download from the entries... All sign-in is handled by Thangs memberships. Starter packs currently require the Tinkerer tier, while Maker packs currently require the Maker tier.
The problem with your system is you keep adding things and changing specs. There are so many different fasteners that is has become confusing. I will not print anymore boards until you stop adding and set a standard. My fear is the stuff that I have already printed will become obsolete.
I can promise the Tiles will not change at this point, and most parts are locked in from obsolescence for the most part, but this *is* still a project we consider in active development, around the mid-beta tier. I completely understand if you'd prefer to wait for more elements to move into the late development or solidified standard categories though!
Is that a Multiboard Artefact I see? Damn, this system really does offer everything!
Thanks for explaining the basics - this system looks great, but can be overwhelming. It would be nice if we had some kind of a brief description of what parts are doing what in the library (topped/standard/universal/full/simple/pop in/click in...).
It's absolutely in the works with a site refresh!
This system is really great and flexible, and I’m already “bought in”, however…
You NEED to do a better job of sorting, categorizing, and uploading helpful videos and/or “related items” that will help people understand what, how, and where to use the different parts on your website.
There are SO MANY aspects to this system, which is great, but it results in it being EXTREMELY unapproachable for people.
That’s the beauty of Gridfinity: there’s a base plate, things stack on the base plate. Other things can stack on those things. Easy and approachable.
In making such a comprehensive, flexible, and multi-faceted system you’ve made it really difficult to work with as a newbie.
Just my two cents. Thank you for all you do and your continuous hard work.
We've got a new website cooking (slowly) and we really hope to make the important and basic parts easier to find and clearer with better documentation soon, especially as more and more of the designs leave alpha/beta stage and become confirmed final elements!
@@stellasfun I genuinely do not fucking believe you.
I can see how it can be a bit intimidating at first because there are so many parts. but honestly, it's not as complicated as it seems. just start with printing multiboards and the mounting parts. Then gradually work your way through what you need. I'm personally loving all these options.
I would love a Multiboard designer where I can configure my Multiboard layout in a web app, then generate a bill of materials so I know what to print
It's absolutely something we really want too! We're working on a simple tile focused tool that should be out relatively soon(tm) but eventually we would really love to make a full simulator too! It just might be a while, and we're going to have to find a way to fund it!
Ya that is the future end goal 🦾
GENIUS
Darn you!!! Now I need more 3D printers to make all the Multiboard things! Really love the designs and flexibility of your whole system. Is it wrong that I sort of want to "buy" a bunch of the multiboard prints so that i can print all the accessories to use with them?
Hopefully in the future that might become a possibility through the community!
Hello from Keep Making!
This is Gridfinity on steroids, but locked down a bit
For the moment at least. We're still trying to keep active development going (and keep the bills paid) so it's a little more limited than the fully free Gridfinity, but we hope the part quality and careful development (along with future extra features and items) make it worth it!
Which 3D printer do you have?
if i wanted to design a commercial product and i wanted to make it compatible with multiboard would i also need a license? i'm just thinking to basically add holed with proper spacing and dimensions so that it can be attached to the multiboard. i don't require this for my product but i thought it would be nice to have and wouldn't increase the price for me, but if i need a commercial license then i would skip it.
Well the way I see it is that if you make a remix of a part and it's free for others to use and it's not a 99% copy of the original file then there is no need for a license. But if you were to sell it and it is recognisable as a remix then you would need a licence. Dose that make sense?
@@multiboard_io thanks. in this case i was thinking of adding holes that are spaced and sized to line up with the threaded holes in the multiboard so that someone could print out your screws (which i wouldn't include) and use them to attach it to their multiboard. if that's ok to do then my second question is if i can say that the product is compatible with multiboard or if i need a license?
@@petergibbons607 ya that's 1000% fine. Compatibility is always free and if anything encouraged no license needed at all for that. It's your own design that is just compatible with multiboard that's awesome! If fact here are the remix parts so you have some pre made holes for you : www.multiboard.io/parts-library/remixing
would be cool to reuse gridfinity for the "panels".
So gridfinity, but closed? Sort of.
If I had $1 for every “last storage system”…
Does the draws have a retainment system to keep from opening if used on the go? Can you hang traditional part bin ie akro-mills on the multi point rails or another way?
The drawers do have retaining pins to prevent them falling out without being tilted up first. I am unsure if akro-mills bins can be directly added to multipoint rails, but it would be a fairly easy adapter part if not!
As an introduction, one massive omission is filament choice. Apart from strength and cost, printing difficulties including tolerances would concern me. Especially if using different materials for different parts.
A community response here claims that plain PLA works fine.
Was that what was being demonstrated (weightlifting kit and all)?
Since it isn’t mentioned at all in the video, I would suggest that a pinned comment might save the same question coming up again and again.
For newcomers to your system, it is a kinda important detail…
In one of the early videos he said he tested one of the pegboard hooks and it snapped at 70lbs.
PLA has extremely high tensile strength so it’s a perfect choice for this, other materials have desireable characteristics such as heat resistance and such, but PLA is cheap and strong. If you are mounting this in a hot area then perhaps another material would be a good choice, but for 99% of people PLA is going to be best.
I use a majority petg for this and it works great. I've also mixed in some custom pla mounts and there are no issues with fitment
Whoops! Good call! We design everything with PLA in mind. All parts you see are printed with Matte PLA variants from a few different brands!
Where is the mega drawer pack? I can't seem to find it and I am a supporter.
Not all packs are published quite yet. Jonathan is recovering from some health issues so it might be a little bit longer. Thank you for your patience!
Are the multibin grids compatible with gridfinity?
I think they're 50mm so no, not without some sort of converter or model modification.
What filament would be best for my multiboard wall. I have looked and I find nothing about what people are using as the filament.
PLA works fine
Pla or petg is good
Officially we recommend PLA, but PETG can be used for many of the parts with no issues.
Im a bit confused, I want my drawers to have inserts. Is this even possible? is seems like only the drawer housings can have custom inserts and i don't really see why its like this. If i want a little box fitted with an insert for lets say a deburing tool set, if it were a drawer i could take it out from the front, but if it were in a bin id have to have at least the hight if the bin itself+ the height of the tool sticking out + a tiny bit of clearance. Seems like such a waste of space and my board would be half empty if i did this. I feel like I am missing something.
Ignore me if you already know this but that would be very easily done with Gridfinity and it's a system with much simpler basic principles while also being infinitely customizable -just searching "Gridfinity drawers" and "Gridfinity deburring" came up with several free preexisting options.
Assembled drawers (as opposed to simple drawers) hold inserts directly. We're definitely going to be showcasing more of items like that soon!
I am a member however the page does not recognize me as such. There is no place to sign in. If I go the the be a supporter page it says I am a supporter. But I cannot download the starter kits. And no I do not wish to download everyone individually. If I do then why would I have a membership.
If you are signed into Thangs it should allow you to download from the entries... All sign-in is handled by Thangs memberships. Starter packs currently require the Tinkerer tier, while Maker packs currently require the Maker tier.
The problem with your system is you keep adding things and changing specs. There are so many different fasteners that is has become confusing. I will not print anymore boards until you stop adding and set a standard. My fear is the stuff that I have already printed will become obsolete.
I can promise the Tiles will not change at this point, and most parts are locked in from obsolescence for the most part, but this *is* still a project we consider in active development, around the mid-beta tier. I completely understand if you'd prefer to wait for more elements to move into the late development or solidified standard categories though!