this video is basically the official tutorial on HOW TO REALLY START WITH MULTIBOARD, because the official material is very complicated and doesn't explain the basics to people who are not advanced wall organization system users. I think I watched it around 3 or 4 times because whenever I was unsure what to do I would search and click on this. hahahah. Thanks so much for the great video.
Thank you! Be sure though to use some of the new joining methods Jonathan has released. They revised the quad snap system so they are easier to take off and more functional. Thanks for watching!!
Jonathan needs to hire you to do his videos because you explained it so much better. I understood alot better watching you explain everything. Thanks very much xx
Wow thank you! I don't think I'm that good yet, but I strive to get better with each one. Hopefully my updated video I'll be posting soon will be even better.
Thanks so much and thanks for watching! This video is a little older now so make sure you use some of the new pieces Jonathan released. I'll have a new video posted in about a week with the new parts.
They make an extension for the switch plate box. They use it for tile jobs to extend the box 1/2” and you get longer cover screws. You probably could just print it in the filament color of your job.
I've seen those! My room is tiny though and there is switch on another wall and I actually put motion sensors in the room so I never use either switch. So I was fine covering up. Thanks so much for watching!
@ I thought in case someone else needed the option to extend. I have to believe it would easy to make your own using a big box store extension as a model.
@@pburchins Ah, I see. Yep, and extension would work nicely. I do get a little weary about mixing 3d printed plastics with any mains electrical. Normal cover plates and such I believe are usually made out of nylon or PVC.
Thanks so much Jonathan! I can't believe all the work you put into designing all these pieces but I'm excited to use them all! Thanks again and thanks for commenting!!
He actually already has "Wall Support Pegs" that can be used where you want them to screw into the back of the panels to help keep them from flexing much. I was unaware of them when I made this video. @@autogyro333
i would use a "molly" style wall anchor. they have the wings that come off 2 sides. you can even print them easy enough and they hold serious weight and lock easy when screwed down. standard expanding wall mounts just don't sit well over time in sheet rock. a molly holds off the back side of the board. but I love the idea of the milti board. I was already working on something similar. I will have to look into this and maybe finish out my work space in the multiboard.
The ones I used are suppose to have wings that sort of expand out which sort of does the same thing. I have a feeling maybe they are just spinning in the hole. I'm about to do a test on a piece of scrap drywall which will be in my next video. You should definitely check out Multiboard. It's really cool! Thanks for watching!
@CyberBobCity yeah I have been scratching my head looking at the tool plotting things out. For the "molly" hit Lowe's website and in search type 114767 and should say togglers I think was first anchors I seen that match what I been using. They don't spin inside the gypsy board turning it to dust. These flap open and distribute the weight. Down side is when they are pulled out wrong...your gonna need to look up "how to do a California patch drywall" . They pop right out with any long poker of choice back into the screw hole.
Multiboard is the reason I bought my FDM printer! Hopefully have it by the end of this week! I'll be printing Multiboard all weekend! Thanks for showcasing your build!
@@CyberBobCity hope so, went with the Elegoo Neptune 4 Plus, I really wanted the Bambu A1 but I wanted a bigger build size, so settled on the Neptune Plus. Hoping I don't regret that purchase!
@@DJ_Blaker I am a bit partial to Bambu Lab printers lately. I just love the AMS. I can have 4 colors ready to go without having to switch anything out manually. I don’t even use it much for multicolor prints right now.
Love this! And such a fantastic explainer, tutorial video. I did not know that there's already so many mods/hacks additional accessories already, I will need to give these a try too. Awesome job, the Nerd Cave now has a fantastically useful and great looking addition.
I never use those wall anchors because sometimes the screw grabs and makes them rotate in their hole or even pull out of the hole in some cases. There is another, much better type of drywall anchor that has a self-tapping tip and very coarse threads. You screw it into the drywall directly, no pilot holes required (although it's not a bad idea to make a small one beforehand). The biggest advantage of this type of anchor is that it cannot come loose so you can tighten the screws into them as tight as you want. You can find those at any home improvement store.
I usually use those kind but thought I'd try something now. I'm wondering now if my screws just aren't long enough. Going to try a test soon. Either way my wall feels very solid. Thanks for watching the video!
Just in the middle of rebuilding the lab and starting projects back up, came accross Jonathan and his work, it seems like a great solution. Now I have 4 heavily modified ender 3's printing in the background :)
Great video and explanation of the system Bob! I just finished printing 40 tiles to do a wall and am thinking of making a video of it as well. You did such a good job explaining, maybe there isn't a need.
Thanks for posting! I've got two walls up and a bunch of stuff printed. I'm just working on how best to get the things on the wall. Posting more videos with that content would be awesome to give folks ideas on how they can best use their multiboard! Subbed and looking forward to more content. Love the Nerd Cave!
nice to see someone start, I too think its the best hex organizer yet (with peg, push, thread attachments). So far i only have one problem and that is how to get (your grey connectors) the quad front face connectors...to back out, if i need to change. I like the drill holders, btw.
Yes, I broke a few removing them. I think he is going to quad fronts you can put bolts through which would make them easily removable, but then you're tying up a good amount of octagons with bolts. So we'll see how it goes.
You can easily make custom size tiles (panels) just by importing several into PrusaSlicer and offset them relative to each other in one direction or the other by multiples of 25 mm. So you can have an 8x6, 10x4, 6x12, etc. Whatever size you want. Then just make sure to highlight all of the tiles and right-click "Merge" before slicing.
Looking great man! I just got my first 3D printer and can’t wait to do projects with it! I’m glad you explained the difference in the design of the multi board and the hexagon board. I would have never noticed the differences between them until I went to print them. I subbed for more 😁
Great video and nice organizing system. Appreciate the easy to follow tutorial! The one thing I would do differently is to paint a 1/2 or 3/4 inch sheet of plywood in your wall color, and attach that to the studs in 4-8 spots (depending on your storage board size). Then mount your board on that with smaller screws that does not penetrate the drywall. That way you don't have to use those shitty dry wall anchors and your wall doesn't end up looking like a Swiss cheese.
He does have a couple files that you could have used. There's small connectors to hold the back pieces together in sets of 4 and there's wall supports that he suggests to use on larger panels so they don't flex as much
@@CyberBobCity they did seem like they wouldnt be helpful but mine pressed and held into the groves really well and I feel it gives it a bit more rigidity. I did a large 5 panel by 8 panel. Definitely enjoying this system over just the honeycomb
Thank you! I hadn't seen a build video on it and it was just the right time for me to complete this project so I thought I would record what I was doing and what pieces I used to help anyone else just getting started. I'm sure we'll see plenty more videos about Multiboard very soon! Can't wait for all the content! Thanks for watching!
I did some MULTIBOARD when I first got my printer. Recently I tried the Honeycomb, mainly because I like the solid edge you can frame it with. But found it way to hard to get pieces to match. So I am sticking with MULTIBOARD, wish they would add a border option.
the only thing i would suggest is to mount a aesthetic/sacrificial board (plywood or something) to the wall.and then mount the Multiboard to the wood, only to limit the amount of holes you would drill into the sheet rock. as time goes by you choose to go with a different system or take it down for what ever reason.
Thanks for sharing this. I just got a storage building I’m turning into my nerd cave for 3D printing, music production and electronics. Maybe we’re brothers from another mother? 🤔🙂 so I had already printed a bunch of the multiboard parts but I was a bit confused about how to use them. This helped an awful lot. Thanks.
Maybe we are! He does have some newer pieces released after I made this video you might want to check out. I haven't switched mine out but I might just to see how they work. Apparently the new quad snaps can be removed with a tool. Thanks for watching! Good luck with the storage building! Sounds like an awesome project!
I really like this system and up until now could not fully justify buying a 3D printer, however now things may have changed. What I would like is your answer to this question. Would you buy a printer, in my case a Bambu lab A1 ( not sure about the AMS lite) just to print this system and then use the printer for other things. Or do not buy a printer and find another storage system?
I mean I've seen a few videos on this and it seems like it has some perks, a big one being the ability to run cables behind it like you said. But to me it seems like HSW with more steps and complications.
It can be exactly like HSW if you want it to be. I do think the panels are stronger and take less filament, so that is a plus. It's great we have a variety of options though at our disposal. Both HSW and Multiboard are cool systems.
This is great. I'll get started printing tonight. Not directly related to this project, but what are the shelves and buckets that you've got up above your multiboard? You're storage solutions are top notch.
Don't get me started on that! I have the Algot system from Ikea which they discontinued in 2020 so I can no longer get shelves for it. So pissed. I wanted that thinner bottom shelf to go all the way across and I think I had one but I can't find it. I should have bought extra of everything so I could have some flexibility if I wanted to move things around. The bins though are all Ikea. Then I bought these plastic label holders from Amazon and then I just printed labels no regular paper that go inside of them to label everything. So I like those... Just wish they would stick with an organizational storage system....
It takes my printer nearly 3 days to print a stack of 4x 9x9 sheets lol. Went with 4 x 6x6 sheets, about 19 hours on that. Printing great it PETG though!
Matthias Wandel once made a video criticizing these wall organizers in general. The main issue with such wall systems is that, instead, you could simply attach some OSB to the wall and then screw the 3D-printed supports directly onto it. This approach is cheaper, stronger, and more customizable.
I think these options are a much more refined alternative to screwing into OSB. The same with using French cleats. But everyone has different styles and needs so it's great we have lots of options to find what best suits us! Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCityAgreed. These systems have a certain aesthetic appeal, which can be desirable in certain situations, and of course personal preference. Matthias is a genius though, so I would always value his opinion.
Your wall looks great. It’s such a nicer look than pegboard or French cleats. I just found HSW and Multiboard two days ago. I printed one small panel of each. Sadly… the thing I was wanting to make that lead me to it… did not work. It was a mount for akro bins. When I hung even an empty bin on the mount it just pulled the inserts off. I’m sure there is a way to do it. But I am still new to 3D printing and trying to learn design so I am not sure how to make it. However…. I love the multiboard. I was about to hang pegboard in my shop and now I’m ditching that idea and going to do multiboard. Curious… how much filament did your wall take? And what filament did you use?
Well I love my French cleats in my garage. Multiboard though is great for smaller less heavier items. I probably used 3 rolls on everything up there. Check out the items in the Multiboard system which are “bolt locked”. I think those will help you. Thanks for watching!!
really great video that covers the basics of how to get all the parts that we've printed onto the wall! Great job! How did you decide how many anchors you wanted to use at the offset snaps? I think you did one anchor per quad snap? thanks
Keep in mind this video is older and he has some new parts that replace some of the ones I'm using. As for anchors, I knew I wouldn't be storing a ton of weight on these. So one anchor per quad snap seemed fine for me. Thanks for watching!
I just started printing this as well, very neat project. My only real wish was that he designed the system to have the the standard 1 inch Pegboard hole spacing. It's designed for 25mm spacing where standard would be 25.4, so super close but over the whole wall it adds up. I'm printing it sized up by 1.6 percent to see if it will still work and get me to the standard spacing. Fingers crossed!
Very interesting point. I am printing a 9-foot wide (by 4 -foot-high) wall right now. I don't plan to use a ton of printed accessories, as I just bought a 278-piece, metal accessory pack, and also several shelves and baskets. None span more than 12 holes (horizontally). It will be interesting to see if I find any issues. BTW, I decided to use this over a standard metal 1-in (25.4 mm) pegboard, because I need to mount all my home automation equipment and Wi-fi/routers/switches. Lots of wires, and this will organize/hide them. IMO, this is the true value of this system. Of course, I plan to hang a ton of 3D printer tools also. I am a huge fan of this design. And CyberBob... your video is what inspired me ...Thanks!
For the cutout supports and making the board more stiff even when offset, I guess you could use the threaded inserts with just the right length to touch and sit on the wall without having to drill new holes. I haven't tried this, so it's just a theory, but I'm in exactly the same position you were where I started the HSW project and then this came along. I love how the models for this system exploded, but I'm not a fan that the official measurements aren't public, but I guess it's only a matter of time. P.S. I tested this on a small scale, it seems like it would work, but there aren't any bolts at the moment that would be the right length for this.
Yes! They are called “Wall Support Pegs” which I was unaware of until another commenter posted about them. I might add them to my build in a future video. Seems like they would work perfect for that. Thanks for watching!
Honest question; Do you think maybe the amount of wall anchors is overkill? Given the multiboard is plastic (strong, but still plastic) there's a limit to the weight that can be hung. It seems like the large sections (8x8x4's) could be just as good with one anchor in each corner. I could be totally wrong though, thoughts?
I think there are some people putting anchors in all 4 quadrants of the quad snap. I didn't think that was necessary. For this to feel ridged, I think I used the right amount of wall anchors, and 8 of the screws ended up going into studs. While I don't think I'm going to hang anything super heavy on this, the board seems strong.
Thanks! It was about 2 rolls of filament for the tiles and not even 1 roll for the white support pieces and the gray snaps on top. So I would say less than $60 in filament and less than $20 in anchors and countersunk screws. The tool holders I made were not much filament at all.
@@CyberBobCity awesome, and would you mind providing your shelving system information as your space pretty much looks like mine and your setup is amazing. Enjoy your day
@@guybaryo3244 well the shelving above my workbench is IKEA Algot which they discontinued. They have a newer system called Boaxel but I’m not sure how it compares. I did use all IKEA bins on my shelves.
@@CyberBobCity awesome! This is very much appreciated. I got the shelves and baskets per your recommendation and have them installed today. Enjoy your weekend!
When I used pegboard, the hooks would come off all the time when taking your tool off. This gives you so many more ways to mount things and all of them attach to the wall really well.
There is now actually, though it's still 2 seperate pieces. They cross and make an x-pattern. I'm working on a new video with an update and I'll go over some of the new parts as well.
By any chance do you have the width and length measurements for a single wall panel as well as weight? I am trying to estimate the amount of filament I would need for my area
the 8x8 core tile I mainly used is 207.65mm x 207.65mm and used 79gm of filament with their recommended settings of .20 layer height, 15% infill, and 3 walls. Hope that helps!
Hey cool video. im in the proces of making a hobby room and i'm definitely gonna get this for my wall. quick question what are the lights you got hanging from your shelf shining on your multiboard? they look nice
Thank you! If you are talking about the colored ones, they are the Govee RGBIC Light Bars. Higher up I also have some under cabinet lighting that is just white that I picked up from Amazon. The Govee lights weren't really bright enough to use ask task lighting. Good luck with your build!
It comes with a a couple bolts to bolt on the the brace going from the front to back in the middle of the shelf. Yes, designed and printed some quick caps. I've been meaning to get them up on Printables if you want to print them.
Nice I started pronting my parts last week. I'm in such a hurry to get stuff printed Ive got a bunch of multi grid and multi board going at the same time. Are you planning on sharing your remixed holders? Subscribing for future content
Well, I get that this is was posted 4+ months ago but, you said something I'm trying to learn and I've only had access to a 3d printer for a month so I hope you can help me. Taking 2 designs, removing what you don't want and putting them together is something I'm having issues with and I'm not sure if it's me or the program I'm using. I have Shapr3d and I can import an STL but, I'm not able to modify it, or anything. Please help and thanks.
Hi. What you want is to download the snap ".step" file and that you can import into Shapr3d. Just search the Google for "Snaps - STEP Multiboard Remixing Files" and you'll be able to download that file, import it into Shapr3d, and add additional bodies next to it which you can then export as one piece. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
If the screws for your drywall anchors won't give you a solid mount, you've probably drilled the hole too big, or you may have stripped the plastic anchor.
The anchors came with the drill bit to use. I think maybe my countersunk screws I switched out might not be long enough. I'm going to try a test on a spare cutoff of drywall.
They ARE Ikea, but an old discontinued system they don't make anymore. They were nice and I loved they were metal... I don't know why thy got rid of them. Thanks for watching!
@ I saw that they have an option to print them stacked now so you can do I think 6 panels in 1 print. They print stacked on top of each other so that might be the way to go for such a long print.
@@Member00101 Yep, a lot of people do that. I have two printers so it honestly didn't seem like a lot of printing doing them one by one. It also depends what you want the face texture to be. So if you have a textured build plate, you might want the front of all your panels to have that same texture. You can't get that same texture with the stacked printing. So something to think about.
My Bambu P1S's print fast, I didn't see the need to mess with the stacked prints, especially since I heard the surface finish isn't as nice. Thanks for watching!
I've since been told of some "Wall Support Pegs" you can install which can help with that. But in daily practice it's no big deal. The honeycomb wall only has snaps, this can use pegboard accessories, snaps, or threaded bolts because both the octogons and the smaller peg board holes are threaded...
Oh, duh. They are the Performax shelving from Menards. Give me a few mins and I'll update the video description with links to the exact pieces I used. Thanks for clarify, I was brain dead.
The 8x8 core tile uses about 78gm of filament. If you bought a roll of PLA for say $20 for 1Kg, it would cost $1.56 to print the 8x8 core tile. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCity You mentioned something about the drywall anchors you used not being very secure, do you have a recommendation on which anchors to use? I mounted an IKEA floating shelf recently and had issues with it feeling 'secure' too.
Honeycomb can also ne mounted away from the wall, I don't think the amount of flex matters at all, and I don't care about the licence stuff. So now which one is better and why? Thanks.
this video is basically the official tutorial on HOW TO REALLY START WITH MULTIBOARD, because the official material is very complicated and doesn't explain the basics to people who are not advanced wall organization system users. I think I watched it around 3 or 4 times because whenever I was unsure what to do I would search and click on this. hahahah. Thanks so much for the great video.
Thank you! Be sure though to use some of the new joining methods Jonathan has released. They revised the quad snap system so they are easier to take off and more functional. Thanks for watching!!
The fact that this system requires a subscription to get access to the generator but has such awful documentation is bullshit imo.
@@FlakAttack0 There are lots of systems out there. Figure out which one you like best and give it a try! Thanks for watching.
I can dig it! I liked seeing someone new to multi board talk about it and not trying to “sell” it. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
this workshop/nerdcave is beautiful! so clean and organized..
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Jonathan needs to hire you to do his videos because you explained it so much better. I understood alot better watching you explain everything. Thanks very much xx
Wow thank you! I don't think I'm that good yet, but I strive to get better with each one. Hopefully my updated video I'll be posting soon will be even better.
I hope you get back to making videos, this one is excellent, you were very clear about how this system work and how to install it. Great content.
Thank you! I'm working on a new one right now!
@@CyberBobCitygreat news and great to hear from you!
You do a much better job of explaining the basic mounting of multiboard! Great job, brother. I'm sold on it now
Thanks so much and thanks for watching! This video is a little older now so make sure you use some of the new pieces Jonathan released. I'll have a new video posted in about a week with the new parts.
They make an extension for the switch plate box. They use it for tile jobs to extend the box 1/2” and you get longer cover screws. You probably could just print it in the filament color of your job.
I've seen those! My room is tiny though and there is switch on another wall and I actually put motion sensors in the room so I never use either switch. So I was fine covering up. Thanks so much for watching!
@ I thought in case someone else needed the option to extend. I have to believe it would easy to make your own using a big box store extension as a model.
@@pburchins Ah, I see. Yep, and extension would work nicely. I do get a little weary about mixing 3d printed plastics with any mains electrical. Normal cover plates and such I believe are usually made out of nylon or PVC.
Nice video. You sold me. I was leaning towards multiboard. Now I know I'm diving in. Doing a 6ft x 12ft garage wall with it.
Should be done in 2034. 🤣
That will be sweet! Let me know how it goes! Thanks for watching.
First! 💥
I loved seeing your Multiboard come to life! Can't wait to see where it takes you!
p.s. Just know the Multiboard does have a french cleat mount 😉
Thanks so much Jonathan! I can't believe all the work you put into designing all these pieces but I'm excited to use them all! Thanks again and thanks for commenting!!
Oh I did see that and I may make some panels that hang on French cleats out in may workshop!
He actually already has "Wall Support Pegs" that can be used where you want them to screw into the back of the panels to help keep them from flexing much. I was unaware of them when I made this video. @@autogyro333
I saw this last week and was empressed. Your storage wall came out GREAT!! Thank you for your video.
Thanks for watching! I’m really liking the wall so far!
i would use a "molly" style wall anchor. they have the wings that come off 2 sides. you can even print them easy enough and they hold serious weight and lock easy when screwed down. standard expanding wall mounts just don't sit well over time in sheet rock. a molly holds off the back side of the board. but I love the idea of the milti board. I was already working on something similar. I will have to look into this and maybe finish out my work space in the multiboard.
The ones I used are suppose to have wings that sort of expand out which sort of does the same thing. I have a feeling maybe they are just spinning in the hole. I'm about to do a test on a piece of scrap drywall which will be in my next video.
You should definitely check out Multiboard. It's really cool! Thanks for watching!
@CyberBobCity yeah I have been scratching my head looking at the tool plotting things out. For the "molly" hit Lowe's website and in search type 114767 and should say togglers I think was first anchors I seen that match what I been using. They don't spin inside the gypsy board turning it to dust. These flap open and distribute the weight. Down side is when they are pulled out wrong...your gonna need to look up "how to do a California patch drywall" . They pop right out with any long poker of choice back into the screw hole.
Multiboard is the reason I bought my FDM printer! Hopefully have it by the end of this week! I'll be printing Multiboard all weekend!
Thanks for showcasing your build!
Awesome!! I think you'll really enjoy it! (both the 3d printer AND Multiboard!)
@@CyberBobCity hope so, went with the Elegoo Neptune 4 Plus, I really wanted the Bambu A1 but I wanted a bigger build size, so settled on the Neptune Plus. Hoping I don't regret that purchase!
@@DJ_Blaker I am a bit partial to Bambu Lab printers lately. I just love the AMS. I can have 4 colors ready to go without having to switch anything out manually. I don’t even use it much for multicolor prints right now.
@@CyberBobCity Ya that Bambu AMS is damn slick! And I heard Bambu is great right out of the box!
Awesome! I'm two rolls of filament deep printing my first Multiboard project. Thanks for the tips and new designs!
Glad I can help! Thanks for watching!
Love this! And such a fantastic explainer, tutorial video. I did not know that there's already so many mods/hacks additional accessories already, I will need to give these a try too.
Awesome job, the Nerd Cave now has a fantastically useful and great looking addition.
Thanks MT! I really like your setup so far! It's pretty epic!
I never use those wall anchors because sometimes the screw grabs and makes them rotate in their hole or even pull out of the hole in some cases. There is another, much better type of drywall anchor that has a self-tapping tip and very coarse threads. You screw it into the drywall directly, no pilot holes required (although it's not a bad idea to make a small one beforehand). The biggest advantage of this type of anchor is that it cannot come loose so you can tighten the screws into them as tight as you want. You can find those at any home improvement store.
I usually use those kind but thought I'd try something now. I'm wondering now if my screws just aren't long enough. Going to try a test soon. Either way my wall feels very solid. Thanks for watching the video!
Great job with this! One of the best multiboard videos I've seen. Please do an update!!!
Will be posting within a week or possibly 2!
@@CyberBobCity Is that update still coming?
@@DAstler Yes still coming, just a little delayed...
Just in the middle of rebuilding the lab and starting projects back up, came accross Jonathan and his work, it seems like a great solution. Now I have 4 heavily modified ender 3's printing in the background :)
Nice!! Would love to see it once you get it on the wall!
I got my 8th out of twelve panels going on the printer right now. Looking forward to installing this weekend
Nice!! Hope it goes well and you love it!
Great video and explanation of the system Bob! I just finished printing 40 tiles to do a wall and am thinking of making a video of it as well. You did such a good job explaining, maybe there isn't a need.
Go for it! Make sure you post a link so I can watch it!
Thanks for posting! I've got two walls up and a bunch of stuff printed. I'm just working on how best to get the things on the wall. Posting more videos with that content would be awesome to give folks ideas on how they can best use their multiboard! Subbed and looking forward to more content. Love the Nerd Cave!
Will do! You should join the Discord channel and post in the "Show and Tell" category if you haven't already. Would love to see your boards!
Nice job Bob very helpful. Really like the nerd cave, I would be lost in all that organization!
Thank you! It's awesome knowing the tool you need is right where you knew it would be!
Awesome I can't wait to get mine going... i think I will be printing for weeks to get all the parts ready
Right on! Have fun getting your wall started!
Loved watching you put this together! I'm mid print on my panels right now and got so many ideas watching this! Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful Ken!
Love seeing you hang things!
Thanks for watching!
nice to see someone start, I too think its the best hex organizer yet (with peg, push, thread attachments). So far i only have one problem and that is how to get (your grey connectors) the quad front face connectors...to back out, if i need to change. I like the drill holders, btw.
Yes, I broke a few removing them. I think he is going to quad fronts you can put bolts through which would make them easily removable, but then you're tying up a good amount of octagons with bolts. So we'll see how it goes.
New ones have been created with a removal tool.
I just found your channel and am sad you don't make videos often. You did a great job demonstrating! Thank you bunches.
More to come! Thanks so much!!
Video I appreciate you for the effort you put into it and it helped me decide on using multi board
There are some updated pieces now so watch all the latest guides on the new Multiboard TH-cam channel. Thanks for watching!
Very good video! It helped me choose between Honeycomb and this onee!🎉🎉🎉👀
Glad it was helpful!
You can easily make custom size tiles (panels) just by importing several into PrusaSlicer and offset them relative to each other in one direction or the other by multiples of 25 mm. So you can have an 8x6, 10x4, 6x12, etc. Whatever size you want. Then just make sure to highlight all of the tiles and right-click "Merge" before slicing.
I was happy to support Jonathan for a while since he put so much time into this cool system!
@@CyberBobCity I agree. Supporting him for all his work is a good idea.
Looking great man! I just got my first 3D printer and can’t wait to do projects with it! I’m glad you explained the difference in the design of the multi board and the hexagon board. I would have never noticed the differences between them until I went to print them. I subbed for more 😁
Awesome! Thank you! I have a new Multiboard video coming out very shortly!
Great video and nice organizing system. Appreciate the easy to follow tutorial!
The one thing I would do differently is to paint a 1/2 or 3/4 inch sheet of plywood in your wall color, and attach that to the studs in 4-8 spots (depending on your storage board size). Then mount your board on that with smaller screws that does not penetrate the drywall. That way you don't have to use those shitty dry wall anchors and your wall doesn't end up looking like a Swiss cheese.
Yep, that is definitely a good option and would keep it nice and sturdy. For this wall I was fine with trying it on the drywall.
He does have a couple files that you could have used. There's small connectors to hold the back pieces together in sets of 4 and there's wall supports that he suggests to use on larger panels so they don't flex as much
The connectors seemed kind of fidgety. I did just learn about the Wall Support Pegs and those would have been useful.
Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCity they did seem like they wouldnt be helpful but mine pressed and held into the groves really well and I feel it gives it a bit more rigidity. I did a large 5 panel by 8 panel. Definitely enjoying this system over just the honeycomb
Nice! If you are in the Discord channel you show post some pics of your setup in "Show and Tell"!
I have been watching this project, thanks for a good user review. Not sure if I want to commit to it, so was good to see what you did.
Thank you! I hadn't seen a build video on it and it was just the right time for me to complete this project so I thought I would record what I was doing and what pieces I used to help anyone else just getting started.
I'm sure we'll see plenty more videos about Multiboard very soon! Can't wait for all the content!
Thanks for watching!
I did some MULTIBOARD when I first got my printer. Recently I tried the Honeycomb, mainly because I like the solid edge you can frame it with. But found it way to hard to get pieces to match. So I am sticking with MULTIBOARD, wish they would add a border option.
You could probably add a border without too much trouble in tinkercad. But it still will be some work. Welcome back though! Thanks for watching!
the only thing i would suggest is to mount a aesthetic/sacrificial board (plywood or something) to the wall.and then mount the Multiboard to the wood, only to limit the amount of holes you would drill into the sheet rock. as time goes by you choose to go with a different system or take it down for what ever reason.
That is not a bad idea. But too late now! So far it's been really handy. I'm posting an update video very soon.
Thanks for sharing this. I just got a storage building I’m turning into my nerd cave for 3D printing, music production and electronics. Maybe we’re brothers from another mother? 🤔🙂 so I had already printed a bunch of the multiboard parts but I was a bit confused about how to use them. This helped an awful lot. Thanks.
Maybe we are!
He does have some newer pieces released after I made this video you might want to check out. I haven't switched mine out but I might just to see how they work. Apparently the new quad snaps can be removed with a tool.
Thanks for watching! Good luck with the storage building! Sounds like an awesome project!
There is a cross part a for where 4 corners touch, makes it stronger. You should use those instead of 2 2x joiners.
They didn’t exist when I built my wall. Will be posting a new updated video soon though!
Printing a 3x3 mini just to see how it works and if I'll make use of the thing but it looks really promising.
Nice!
Looks great I'm about to start printing mine
Have fun!
Great video man! Thank you!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
I really like this system and up until now could not fully justify buying a 3D printer, however now things may have changed. What I would like is your answer to this question.
Would you buy a printer, in my case a Bambu lab A1 ( not sure about the AMS lite) just to print this system and then use the printer for other things. Or do not buy a printer and find another storage system?
I can’t imagine life without a 3d printer now. You will 100% find other uses for it, and the Bambu Lab A1 is a great machine!
I mean I've seen a few videos on this and it seems like it has some perks, a big one being the ability to run cables behind it like you said. But to me it seems like HSW with more steps and complications.
It can be exactly like HSW if you want it to be. I do think the panels are stronger and take less filament, so that is a plus. It's great we have a variety of options though at our disposal. Both HSW and Multiboard are cool systems.
currently printing my second tile, im so stoked :) tho it takes ages on my ender 3 lol
A Bambu Lab printer definitely helps. But I’ve printing on my Ender 3 Pro for years and it was a true workhorse! Keep at it!!
Rad video thx - this may be the reason i get a printer. Make more videos please. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching! Will do!
Looks great!
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
Great video!!! Can you share the link to the wall shelves above your multiboard?
They are IKEA shelves that have been discontinued.
This is great. I'll get started printing tonight. Not directly related to this project, but what are the shelves and buckets that you've got up above your multiboard? You're storage solutions are top notch.
Don't get me started on that! I have the Algot system from Ikea which they discontinued in 2020 so I can no longer get shelves for it. So pissed. I wanted that thinner bottom shelf to go all the way across and I think I had one but I can't find it. I should have bought extra of everything so I could have some flexibility if I wanted to move things around.
The bins though are all Ikea. Then I bought these plastic label holders from Amazon and then I just printed labels no regular paper that go inside of them to label everything. So I like those... Just wish they would stick with an organizational storage system....
@@CyberBobCity thanks for the info, and that’s really unfortunate. I guess I’ll go hunting for something similar.
Ikea currently has their BOAXEL shelves but when I saw them in the store they didn't seem as high quality.
It takes my printer nearly 3 days to print a stack of 4x 9x9 sheets lol. Went with 4 x 6x6 sheets, about 19 hours on that. Printing great it PETG though!
Nice work! Thanks for watching!
Matthias Wandel once made a video criticizing these wall organizers in general. The main issue with such wall systems is that, instead, you could simply attach some OSB to the wall and then screw the 3D-printed supports directly onto it. This approach is cheaper, stronger, and more customizable.
I think these options are a much more refined alternative to screwing into OSB. The same with using French cleats. But everyone has different styles and needs so it's great we have lots of options to find what best suits us! Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCityAgreed. These systems have a certain aesthetic appeal, which can be desirable in certain situations, and of course personal preference.
Matthias is a genius though, so I would always value his opinion.
I agree with cheaper solution, if want aestethic maybe we can try to engrave the OSB with honeycomb pattern :)
Your wall looks great. It’s such a nicer look than pegboard or French cleats. I just found HSW and Multiboard two days ago. I printed one small panel of each. Sadly… the thing I was wanting to make that lead me to it… did not work. It was a mount for akro bins. When I hung even an empty bin on the mount it just pulled the inserts off. I’m sure there is a way to do it. But I am still new to 3D printing and trying to learn design so I am not sure how to make it. However…. I love the multiboard. I was about to hang pegboard in my shop and now I’m ditching that idea and going to do multiboard.
Curious… how much filament did your wall take? And what filament did you use?
Well I love my French cleats in my garage. Multiboard though is great for smaller less heavier items.
I probably used 3 rolls on everything up there.
Check out the items in the Multiboard system which are “bolt locked”. I think those will help you.
Thanks for watching!!
Glad to see you back. Love the new video. 🤞🏻more vids this year?
Yes definitely! Thanks for watching!
really great video that covers the basics of how to get all the parts that we've printed onto the wall! Great job! How did you decide how many anchors you wanted to use at the offset snaps? I think you did one anchor per quad snap? thanks
Keep in mind this video is older and he has some new parts that replace some of the ones I'm using.
As for anchors, I knew I wouldn't be storing a ton of weight on these. So one anchor per quad snap seemed fine for me.
Thanks for watching!
I just started printing this as well, very neat project. My only real wish was that he designed the system to have the the standard 1 inch Pegboard hole spacing. It's designed for 25mm spacing where standard would be 25.4, so super close but over the whole wall it adds up. I'm printing it sized up by 1.6 percent to see if it will still work and get me to the standard spacing.
Fingers crossed!
Interesting! I’m curious to see if it works out for you. Good luck!
Very interesting point. I am printing a 9-foot wide (by 4 -foot-high) wall right now. I don't plan to use a ton of printed accessories, as I just bought a 278-piece, metal accessory pack, and also several shelves and baskets. None span more than 12 holes (horizontally). It will be interesting to see if I find any issues. BTW, I decided to use this over a standard metal 1-in (25.4 mm) pegboard, because I need to mount all my home automation equipment and Wi-fi/routers/switches. Lots of wires, and this will organize/hide them. IMO, this is the true value of this system. Of course, I plan to hang a ton of 3D printer tools also. I am a huge fan of this design. And CyberBob... your video is what inspired me ...Thanks!
@@tobyvorpahl4279Good luck on your setup Toby! Thanks for watching! 😊
I plan to multi my whole damn house.
Do it!! Thanks for watching!
I would, but my wife would kill me. I'll likely only be able to set it up in the garage.
Hi! Awesome video, would it be much to ask for the Bosch 12V mount as an STL? Thanks!
Sure! Email me at bob@cyberbobcity.com and I can send it to you.
For the cutout supports and making the board more stiff even when offset, I guess you could use the threaded inserts with just the right length to touch and sit on the wall without having to drill new holes. I haven't tried this, so it's just a theory, but I'm in exactly the same position you were where I started the HSW project and then this came along. I love how the models for this system exploded, but I'm not a fan that the official measurements aren't public, but I guess it's only a matter of time.
P.S. I tested this on a small scale, it seems like it would work, but there aren't any bolts at the moment that would be the right length for this.
Yes! They are called “Wall Support Pegs” which I was unaware of until another commenter posted about them. I might add them to my build in a future video. Seems like they would work perfect for that.
Thanks for watching!
Honest question; Do you think maybe the amount of wall anchors is overkill? Given the multiboard is plastic (strong, but still plastic) there's a limit to the weight that can be hung. It seems like the large sections (8x8x4's) could be just as good with one anchor in each corner. I could be totally wrong though, thoughts?
I think there are some people putting anchors in all 4 quadrants of the quad snap. I didn't think that was necessary.
For this to feel ridged, I think I used the right amount of wall anchors, and 8 of the screws ended up going into studs. While I don't think I'm going to hang anything super heavy on this, the board seems strong.
Cool video mate. Any chance you could do a video on splicing multiboard mating parts onto honeycomb accesories in Tinkercad?
Yes, that could be a good video. I'll keep that in mind!
4:43 you mean countersunk screws, the others are button head. flathead refers to the type of screwdriver needed
yep, you're right.
Nice build 😎 Do you have an approximate cost for that project? Amount of filament used? Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! It was about 2 rolls of filament for the tiles and not even 1 roll for the white support pieces and the gray snaps on top. So I would say less than $60 in filament and less than $20 in anchors and countersunk screws. The tool holders I made were not much filament at all.
Good video. Those bottle holders look awesome. hah
Thanks much Nerlin! Those bottle holders are awesome! The link is in the description if you'd like to download them.... 😉
i like this way more than the traditional honeycomb
Me too!
Do you happen to have the build list for your performax printer rack/shelf. Love the setup and would like to replicate? Thanks
I’ll make sure I add that to the description tomorrow with links to the Menards site!
@@CyberBobCity awesome, and would you mind providing your shelving system information as your space pretty much looks like mine and your setup is amazing.
Enjoy your day
@@guybaryo3244 well the shelving above my workbench is IKEA Algot which they discontinued. They have a newer system called Boaxel but I’m not sure how it compares. I did use all IKEA bins on my shelves.
I've now posted the pieces i used on my rack and their cost. Please check the description.
@@CyberBobCity awesome! This is very much appreciated. I got the shelves and baskets per your recommendation and have them installed today. Enjoy your weekend!
how much filament did all of that take?
About 3 to 4 rolls, everything included.
What is the benefit to a regular pegboard? You can 3D-print accessories to that to and it must be cheaper, right?
When I used pegboard, the hooks would come off all the time when taking your tool off. This gives you so many more ways to mount things and all of them attach to the wall really well.
Can't you directly mount the board to the wall without spacers. ?
Yep, you can mount it flush against the wall.
I wonder why there isn't a quad support snaps (like there is a front snap).
There is now actually, though it's still 2 seperate pieces. They cross and make an x-pattern. I'm working on a new video with an update and I'll go over some of the new parts as well.
By any chance do you have the width and length measurements for a single wall panel as well as weight? I am trying to estimate the amount of filament I would need for my area
the 8x8 core tile I mainly used is 207.65mm x 207.65mm and used 79gm of filament with their recommended settings of .20 layer height, 15% infill, and 3 walls. Hope that helps!
@@CyberBobCity thank you very much it definitely will
I don't know if I missed it but was this printed in PLA or PETG?
PLA, it’s what Jonathan that created it recommends.
Hey cool video. im in the proces of making a hobby room and i'm definitely gonna get this for my wall. quick question what are the lights you got hanging from your shelf shining on your multiboard? they look nice
Thank you! If you are talking about the colored ones, they are the Govee RGBIC Light Bars. Higher up I also have some under cabinet lighting that is just white that I picked up from Amazon. The Govee lights weren't really bright enough to use ask task lighting.
Good luck with your build!
Does that Menard's shelving require any hardware? What are those caps on the side rails, did you just 3d print caps?
It comes with a a couple bolts to bolt on the the brace going from the front to back in the middle of the shelf. Yes, designed and printed some quick caps. I've been meaning to get them up on Printables if you want to print them.
I have a similar size wall how much filament did you use in total
Probably a few spools.
How much filament did all this take to print? Im looking at buying a printer just for this.
An 8x8 tile is 79gm of filament. So you can get about 12 per 1kg spool. I think I used 2 to 3 spools.
Nice I started pronting my parts last week. I'm in such a hurry to get stuff printed Ive got a bunch of multi grid and multi board going at the same time. Are you planning on sharing your remixed holders? Subscribing for future content
Awesome! Email me at bob@cyberbobcity.com and I’ll send them to you.
Well, I get that this is was posted 4+ months ago but, you said something I'm trying to learn and I've only had access to a 3d printer for a month so I hope you can help me.
Taking 2 designs, removing what you don't want and putting them together is something I'm having issues with and I'm not sure if it's me or the program I'm using.
I have Shapr3d and I can import an STL but, I'm not able to modify it, or anything.
Please help and thanks.
Hi. What you want is to download the snap ".step" file and that you can import into Shapr3d. Just search the Google for "Snaps - STEP Multiboard Remixing Files" and you'll be able to download that file, import it into Shapr3d, and add additional bodies next to it which you can then export as one piece.
Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
Why not use the quad part A?
They weren’t available when I built this.
If the screws for your drywall anchors won't give you a solid mount, you've probably drilled the hole too big, or you may have stripped the plastic anchor.
The anchors came with the drill bit to use. I think maybe my countersunk screws I switched out might not be long enough. I'm going to try a test on a spare cutoff of drywall.
What kind of shelves are there a the top... they kind of look like they're ikea, but better and all metal. Want. Also, subscribed!
They ARE Ikea, but an old discontinued system they don't make anymore. They were nice and I loved they were metal... I don't know why thy got rid of them. Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCity Bummer - I'll still keep watching, though 😀. Thanks for the info!
what would you use the threaded "ped" for?
I have used many threaded items yet honestly. Mostly the snaps and the pegboard hooks.
What was the print time on all those panels?
I think about 75 hours just for the panels. The 8x8 squares take about 3 hours each on my Bambu Lab P1S
@ I saw that they have an option to print them stacked now so you can do I think 6 panels in 1 print. They print stacked on top of each other so that might be the way to go for such a long print.
@@Member00101 Yep, a lot of people do that. I have two printers so it honestly didn't seem like a lot of printing doing them one by one. It also depends what you want the face texture to be. So if you have a textured build plate, you might want the front of all your panels to have that same texture. You can't get that same texture with the stacked printing. So something to think about.
What material did you print them with petg?
Just PLA and they have worked great!
@ thats awesome im looking to print some panels too but wasnt sure witch material
You need to update your video so that you're using the newer Quad Offset Snaps (DS Part A)
I know! New update will be out soon!
Have you print this in PLA or PETG?
I did all PLA+
Awesome. How many kg of filament did this take?
Maybe 1.75kg in total. I don't have an exact measurement. It didn't seem like a lot though.
@@CyberBobCity wow that is impressive
I think about 3kg
I thought the quad supports side a were supposed to cross. There’s a part 1 and part 2.
I made this video before those were released. I’ll have an update video very soon!
@@CyberBobCity ohhh!! Ty!!!
Do you have the link to upper shelving?
Unfortunately the shelves I have are a discontinued model from Ikea. Their current model is the BOAXEL system.
Great video, were you able to stack print the multiboard parts?
My Bambu P1S's print fast, I didn't see the need to mess with the stacked prints, especially since I heard the surface finish isn't as nice.
Thanks for watching!
It's necessary all that hole on the wall?
Yes, if you want them to be pretty strong.
What sized flat head m screws did you use?
#8, 1 1/4" long. But I think they might be too short which could be the issue I was having with the anchors... I'm going to try a test soon.
Man this must have taken a month to print!
Looks good though.
No not really. My two P1S's were pumping them out! Thanks for watching!
Ive been telling my wife how 2 printers is better than 1. Thats the key.
100% true
What printer do you use ? And what do you recommend?
I have a few printers but my Bambu Lab P1S Combo’s are really all I use lately. They are just phenomenal!
@@CyberBobCity thank you looking to get my first printer 👍
I don't like how the board flexes when inserting tools into it! Btw what is the actual benfit of this over the Honeycom design?
I've since been told of some "Wall Support Pegs" you can install which can help with that. But in daily practice it's no big deal.
The honeycomb wall only has snaps, this can use pegboard accessories, snaps, or threaded bolts because both the octogons and the smaller peg board holes are threaded...
Someone needs to do a video comparing the strength of these different boards to truly test which one wins.. I’ve got my money on the multi board
That would be a good Project Farm video! But he only does tools.
Could you share a link to the rack?
Which rack are you wanting? The filament racks below my workbench? They are the $10 Ikea Vesken carts. They really work awesome for being so cheap.
I believe you say they're performx? The shelving you use for holding the printers
Oh, duh. They are the Performax shelving from Menards. Give me a few mins and I'll update the video description with links to the exact pieces I used. Thanks for clarify, I was brain dead.
@@CyberBobCity thanks! 🙌
I've now posted the pieces i used on my rack and their cost. Please check the description.
how much does it cost to print such panels?
The 8x8 core tile uses about 78gm of filament. If you bought a roll of PLA for say $20 for 1Kg, it would cost $1.56 to print the 8x8 core tile. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCity thank you very much, this was exactly what i wanted to know
How long did it take to print all that? I have an X1C and just printing a single 9x9 multiboard tile is going to take 5 hours :(
They are all 8 x 8 tiles and took about 3 hours each. It really didn't seem to bad.
@@CyberBobCity You mentioned something about the drywall anchors you used not being very secure, do you have a recommendation on which anchors to use? I mounted an IKEA floating shelf recently and had issues with it feeling 'secure' too.
Honeycomb can also ne mounted away from the wall, I don't think the amount of flex matters at all, and I don't care about the licence stuff. So now which one is better and why? Thanks.
I like Multiboard better because there are lots of ways to attach accessories onto the wall. Thanks for watching!
@@CyberBobCity Is that not also true for honeycomb?
@@D4RKFiB3R No, they only have one way, honeycomb snaps.
yo, multiboard screwed into a plywood sheet HANGING ON FRENCH CLEATS
You don’t even need the plywood sheet! Multiboard also has mounts to hang it off French cleats!
I hate drywall. I feel your pain. :D
The WORST!!
Holy cow. How long did it take to print all that?
A week, off and on, I think.
@@CyberBobCity good thing I can work from home!
@@UnwalledGarden You are lucky! What kind of printer do you have?
@@CyberBobCity Bambu X1 Carbon
@@UnwalledGardenAwesome! That will make some nice panels!