Remote ID - The BEST Way to Steal a Drone!
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- A lot still needs to happen for Remote ID to be fully operational, but the deadlines are approaching fast, and you need to start thinking about what you are going to do when it gets here. How are you going to protect yourself?
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Back in the days of CB radios, the FCC tried to implement licensing requirements. Nobody complied and the requirement was lifted. I see similar things happening with RID.
I remember that. All of a sudden you needed a license to talk on a CB. Then all of sudden you did't.
@@t.harris4309 and then CB died when Ham radio became more popular, even though you need an FCC license.
Nevet lifted, not inforced. You can still see the requirements when you purchase one still till this day. Just sayin
ok hear me out. just like cb, they can't enforce it if they can't find you. and I know damn well that my 110mph race drone can outrun a police cruiser and lose it in the trees. now I'm not suggesting I'll do anything illegal, buuuuuuut...
and so long as you don't fly like the boneheads that got this imposed on us in the first place, no one is going to file a complaint. no complaint = no reason or method of enforcement. if the faa wants to take away my right to fly in a safe manner in an area without people or airports, then I'll tell them where they can shove their legislation.
The problem with this is manufacturers like DJI are baking remote ID into their firmware. People won't have a choice, if they choose to update their firmware or apps. It may even be soon required to update before able to take off.
Definitely going to change the drone technology and market. Sub 250g drones will definitely get way more capable which isn’t a bad thing. The public access to drone data however probably not going to work well. A partial fix might be making access to the public info a two way deal. If you want access to drone info that drone operator should be given the who , when, where on the person looking up the drone info. IE it definitely cannot be anonymous access 👍
That's genius brother. Now if we could only get the FAA to listen and add it to the rule.
I'm all for getting rid of the public access to location information. What I might consider is a small transmission that gives a single code...a registry number. Something the FAA can cross reference and find out who the drone is flown by. It needs to be low power, something you could only read from the drone while within line of sight. Example: some homeowner has a drone loitering and lingering low over their property. They get photo and video evidence of the drone flying where it isn't supposed to be, and they are close enough to read the electronic tail number that the drone emits. They take this video and the registration number to the sheriff. There, the FAA database reveals the drone owner and the sheriff handles the situation as needed. By revealing location data publicly, it encourages vigilante style confrontations between property owners and drone pilots. That third party, the sheriff, needs to be involved to determine what is trespassing or surveillance and what is not.
Great idea but do you have a few million dollars to grease the palms of the FAA to get this passed like the lobbyist do? I know I don't.
From what I know there is no exception for remote ID for drones under 250g. If anything 250g drones aren't going matter that much anymore as they'll have the same requirements.
@@sojourner99 unless it has changed in the last day or something, then sub-250g did not have a remote ID requirement. The general rule of thumb was if you didn't have to register it, you don't have to remote ID it. This is FAA I am talking about, dunno if we are talking about the same place.
I will do everything in my power to legally deceive, confuse and otherwise disrupt RID processes. Get off my lawn! Great video Russ and I can see more of this topic (unfortunately) explored in the future.
What worries me is when I'm on a commercial mission that requires photos of a building near a residential area, and some nutcase wants to know who is spying on them. They pull out their phone, see me no longer near their house, track me down mid-mission, and raise hell over NOTHING! America has become the land of the self-entitled. And situations like this will not end well for myself or anyone with a part107 trying to perform a job.
I have no doubt in my mind that in states with options to carry a weapon.. weapon purchases will sky rocket. I am not a big fan of people being able to carry guns in public.. while largely it seems to be OK.. I think it is WAY too easy as we have seen on tons of videos for someone with a gun.. to get angry and pull it out.. sometimes using it. However.. for drone pilots.. I think this is going to be an almost guarantee if allowed.. to have a gun or taser on them. I know me personally I am considering it now.. just in case. It is absolutely absurd that this is public. Only law enforcement/faa/etc should have the ability to search for drones and pilots. Any person can call the police if they are worried.. and IF the police have the ability to come out.. can look it up, etc.
Alternate angle. I had an encounter with an irresponsible drone operator. I live in a very rural place. I can see zero commercial properties or structures from my house. Aside from less than 2 dozen neighbors, I am surrounded by MILES of beautiful foothills. Like most people out here, I greatly value my privacy. If you are a father you will also understand there is a great deal of protectiveness going on too.
So imagine my frustration and concern when I go outside one afternoon and see a DJI running a mission over my land, over my house, for 10 minutes. Photographing/Videoing who knows what. I'm not talking "maybe it came from the neighbors land and strayed a few feet onto my land", it was several hundred feet into my land, directly over my house and around it.
If Remote ID existed would I have used it? NO. I would have acted exactly the same as I did. I got in my car and drove around until I found a guy operating a drone. It was a real estate agent taking photographs of some land he was trying to sell. I trusted that he was telling me the truth and verified it with a quick google search. I then kindly but firmly informed him that he was continuously flying over my land, not his customer's land. He balked a bit but I eventually convinced him to actually look at the platen map and survey stakes. So we handled it like gentlemen. He apologized, I offered him some advice on good spots to photograph the sunset.
The point I'm getting at is that while yes, Remote ID is concerning, and certainly some people will abuse it, there are also irresponsible and reckless operators out there. Something needs to be done about a very real problem. My encounter went well enough, but not everyone takes being called out so well. People can tend to act irrationally when they are confronted and put on the defensive. In my opinion Remote ID isn't the answer, but just ignoring the problem isn't viable either.
Second opinion of mine. I fly RCs. I've got my licensing in order. I am also like radios, always have. I am a licensed HAM as well as GMRS. As a result you can EASILY look up my home address if you know where to look. All that said, I would be pretty pissed off if someone could look up my realtime location based off of my call sign or my FAA reg. I understand that as a user of a finite resource, I have to play ball and keep it legal. But that should also come with some reasonable expectation of privacy and personal safety.
Anyways, that's just my 3 cents (adjusted for inflation).
@@nasonguy You don't own the airspace. Helicopters routinely fly and hover over my home. I have no say over what they do. Why do you think you're different because you live in "beautiful foothills"?
@@80b I’m aware of that. Consider the privacy aspect though. Put yourself in my shoes. We live out here for many reasons, privacy is a big one. The closest house to mine is 1/4 mile away. The closest public road is 3 miles away. It is unheard of to see any sort of drone activity out here. Much less one flying 10 feet above my head.
I didn’t threaten the operator, I didn’t ask if he was licensed, I didn’t threaten to call the cops on him. I asked what he was doing, and when he told me he was photographing a lot, I politely informed him he was no where near it.
Just because someone has the legal right to do something doesn’t mean it is a socially acceptable thing to do. I believe most people would agree with me that they would like to not be photographed in their back yards or houses. Especially when they are not normally visible from any public location, see reasonable expectation of privacy.
@@nasonguy lol... do you really think someone flying a drone is snapping photos of you? First off the drone would have to be a few feet away to get a decent images of a person. If the drone is about 100 feet or higher you're gonna look like a stick figure... stop being paranoid.
Finally! A TH-cam presenter who gets it. Most other channels who describe RID as a license plate in the sky are uninformed and irresponsible. Good job.
Right. A license plate doesn't tell the public where you live or how to rob you at gunpoint.
Yeah in the UK we have to attach a operator ID to our drones, THAT'S literally a licence plate
Imagine a vehicle "license plate" that let anyone track your car.. and the government forcing that on every driver. The uproar would be horrendous!!!!
FACT IS.. I already have a drone "license plate" .. my registration number written on my drone.
@@KrustyKlown Exactly, why doesn't FAA see that, maybe the gubmint is using this as a test trial, to be used later on, on vehicles.
@@rafaelontiveros7450 Correct. The gubmint wants this more than any other segment of society and imho are piggybacking the Karen segment in order to get there.
When Remote ID comes out next year I'm not upgrading my drone with this BS, when I fly i will just hide myself from anybody finding me, inside & around some bushes ect.. "Out Of Site"
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im just gonna carry, if your not law enforcement i dont need to tell you anything
😂 we could wear military camo and lay on the ground disguised as a bush. Or dress as a tree, bear, construction 🦺 worker, 👮♂️ officer (legally). Don’t disguise urself as a deer 🦌 tho!! 🏹
build radar jammer
There's also of course, another 'technical' method to dealing with all this (for most DJI quads) - you just have to be unafraid of getting your 'technical hands' dirty. I'm not gonna put myself at risk by posting any more deets, but trust me - it's there.
There's going to be a cottage industry of electronics repair shops who will offer dummy Drone ID chips, which fool the drone into thinking everything is fine, but which do not transmit anything. Similar to how back in the 90s you could have your PlayStation region chipped to allow international games, or how you can get the speed limiter removed from your very fast car.
Very good points sir. I signed up to pick up Lime scooters and recharge them when they first came to my area. Walking down dark alleys after 11pm in San Leandro and Oakland waving my $1k smart phone back and forth trying to find the silly scooters was way too nerve-racking to continue. While some may say that our worries about our location is unwarranted, believe me, thieves are using tech in many ways these days. Multiple times we've had folks that have been taken photos in SF, etc., followed home and assaulted for their camera equipment. Those in beautiful rural areas may think our fears are unjustified, but for us living in urban areas, believe me, are fears are quite justified...
you're in my world. ride an expensive bike in a semi-secluded area and it's a good bet to have a gun stuck in your face and have it taken away. Unless you took steps to make it identifiable...
Thing is, a phone or bike or car or camera is generally useful and especially prone to theft.
Drones less so... Except for the issue we're sort of discussing here. They're perceived as invaders of privacy and as such targeted.
This - this post is right on. It is so tiring to listen to people living a very comfortable 1st world lifestyle to make decisions that will never impact them but can and will harm the 'underlings" or probably what they think "the scum" or even "the undesirables" or whatever killary called 1/2 the country - wait I just remembered "deplorables" can you imagine, a candidate for the entire USA calling 1/2 of the people in the country she wants to lead deplorable!!!
Anyway working a job like you described is terrible, and the beatdowns that thugs doll out can cause injuries for life! You can be crippled, brain damaged, shit even if you just take a good beating - OK all of you costal elites think this is no big deal. See those guys over there they are going to beat the fuk out of you no, yes right now - wait where are you going, geez you look very pale well too bad because they are ready and you can tell us just what you think about all of this, if you are conscious after the beating, if not we will visit you in the hospital - but you have to lie on the concrete for 12 hours before someone stumbles across your body... so I hope that you like that. Sorry this is a big deal to me, take 3 guesses why? Yea go get some life experience. I work with lots of these folks and let me tell you - you (the elite snobs) are no better than anyone else! you are all so buttery soft, you are like fattened up lambs, or that disgusting duck meal where they force feed the trapped animal until it bursts so it get's so nice and tasty for your enjoyment. Oh yea it is called Foie Gras. Nice
I'm just a normal poor person but the way you describe targeted petty crime has got me thinking that might be a financialy viable carrier path.
@@BruceFerrell There is a black market for drones already. It just isn't big enough to gain exposure.
@@kevchard5214 There's a black market for cars, bikes and anything else stolen. So what. This isn't about protecting property (i know horrors). It's about laying the groundwork for automated ATC for automated AVs... And hobby flights have to be accounted for and regulated in the plans. Lemme know when you can hop on the back of a pony and ride cross country again. The "wide open range" is going away... Here comes the barbed wire.
As a certain character said "the good of the many..."
The problem with Remote ID is this. Anybody who wanted to use a drone to do something NEFARIOUS will literally BUILD IT from PARTS and it becomes a ghost gun of the sky. This is a way for big brother further overreach and generate INCOME.
Bingo
Much the same as Tim McVey used fertilizer. He taught us a very important lesson. Now you're going to get flagged, watched and stopped if you don't need that much fertilizer.
This rule is being put in place for a very good reason.
RI also does absolutely NOTHING to make the airspace safer. It's an LE tool.
Good information, Russ. As a new drone pilot, I am not yet too concerned with Remote ID though I do believe the impact may depend largely on the area where you fly. Where I am at, out in the country, I don't expect it will cause much of an issue. I have yet to have any sort of confrontation over my drone and I don't believe many "casual" people will take the time to get an app to check for drones. As you get into more populated areas the risk of "Karens" using the Remote ID information increases. Not to mention the potential increase in, as the title of your video states, theft of drone (and other personal property) from using the information.
One silver lining, which won't be much comfort to those who are negatively impacted by this, is that once there are incidents where the Remote ID information leads to confrontations and harm to drone pilots you could very well see a different outcome in a new suit against the FAA. From what little I read and understood in the decision of the recent case the plaintiffs could not show any harm they had suffered because of the ruling. (Naturally since it hasn't gone into effect yet.) Once someone has been harmed the ruling could easily go the other way as there would be incidents that plaintiffs could point to and say, "here is the harm that is caused by having this information being publicly available."
I have NO doubt the "harm" WILL happen. It will be a Karen assaulting or killing a PIC or a PIC successfully defending themselves against a Karen! But either way, mark my words, it WILL happen...!
Just need a few dozen UAV pilots killed or seriously injured, and then the FAA _might_ "look into it."
Any volunteers? 🙋♂️ 🙋♀️
I will not stop flying my drone, but I will be adding the Mini 3 Pro to my lineup. Remote ID will definitely create more problems than it will fix. As you stated, altercations will definitely increase, especially when your launch point is broadcast to everyone.
launch the drone then get in the car and have your friend drive you about 500 yards away.
@@skesseks That will work only if you have someone to go with you every time you fly.
@@skesseks What friend?
I wouldn't be flying a drone if I had one.
I think what you'll find is that many people will just not comply. The ones that you really want to comply, just won't because they don't follow the rules anyway. The ones that will comply are already following the rules, except they open themselves up to harassment and worse....
@@paulhendershott667 This is the position I take..! I currently follow all "rules" and or "laws" about flying 44809, but RID will be the straw that broke the camels back for me. I am adding every drone I possibly can to my "fleet" before RID goes into effect, since many of them will be "capable" and a simple firmware update will "activate" RID, I will simply NEVER update my firmware beyond the effective date of RID... As it is I do not update firmware until I watch reviews on WHAT exactly it has done...
So yes, you are right, many people will simply NOT comply - I will be one of them!!!
Great report. I agree that there is no logical reason for remote ID. My question is where are all the drone pilots? Where is the online petition against this unneccessary new law. We all need to be lobbying just like others do when they want a law changed. "I'm ready to sign!!!📝
There were tens of thousands of comments on this proposed law and they ignored all of them, they will ignore any petition too. Also, there are so many people saying something like this needs to happen (he even claims it in the video) that people are almost accepting of it. Despite no evidence at all that it ever needs to happen. We're already at peak drone numbers, there will never be more in the air than there are now and there is rarely an incident of note that would be prevented by this nonsense law.
Government agencies are not required to comply with comments, they are just required to get them.
There were 53,000+ comments on the original proposal, and the retailer Race Day Quads actually sued the FAA to try and get it changed/blocked. Lawsuit has been going on for about a year and a half and finally resolved about 3 weeks ago. After all of the lawyering and multiple organizations providing arguments, FAA still basically said "Meh, don't care, deal with it" and pushed the final rule through.
@@ButterfatFarms What is "Corporate America" going to do with said drones mate? They don't work for delivery despite all the hype, most of the drone delivery business have ceased. Hobby drone numbers aren't going to increase due to regulations putting up too many barriers..
Wow! Such a great video! You covered everything and I agree 100% that people are going to get hurt or robbed because remote ID will tell anyone where hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of dollars are in drones equipment. Really makes me angry! You probably can't even sue the FAA when they tell a bad guy where the pilot is and they get robbed, hurt and even killed. Such a poor decision.
They might have remote I’d. but we have 2nd amendment
i doubt that if the government made it where you can sue the gun companies for a criminal using it to do crime, then why cant you sue the faa for the same thing, when a program they create will cause people to get hurt. sue away
@@nikflix8331 be where? remote id makes it so you can't be anywhere without your location being broadcasted.
doesmt matter how good of a neighborhood you are in. crazies are everywhere
@@Instant_Nerf Agreed. Open carrying is a great deterrent and will give idiots pause before being a jerk.
@@nikflix8331 You should be able to feel safe pretty much anywhere in the USA. If flying a drone makes you unsafe, I doubt it is the pilots fault it is unsafe, but the person using RID to find the pilot. Thus, why RID puts pilots at risk, not the pilots themselves. There are going to be attacks on pilots, theft of property, and at some point some pilots are going to be forced to protect themselves with lethal force. It will be the fault of RID because it is enabling the general public to track a pilots remote. Name any other profession or hobby that allows the general public to see an aircraft or other remotely controlled craft to be tracked back to the remote and pilot. If a plane or helicopter flies by, it's not able to be tracked. If a vehicle, bus, train or other public transportation vehicle goes by, it isn't able to be tracked by the general public. If you see someone driving by in a car with a video camera or cell phone taking photos or video, you cannot track them either. I'm not in the know, but I'm assuming this is related to someone trying to make money and just not caring that they are putting lives and property at risk.
I agree with you 100% Russ! Tracking of drone pilots by the general public is going to lead to altercations. My daughter likes to go with me when I fly whether it’s for fun or on a commercial flight. For the most part I have stopped taking her with me because of the risk of an altercation. I am always armed when I am flying or doing a job. I’m sure that I am not the only Drone Pilot who carries when they’re flying. The FAA is asking for trouble by allowing the general public to know the location of drone pilots. I for one will not stop flying, and I will keep my Inspire 2 and all my other larger drones. In fact I am planning on adding the Matrice M30T and an Inspire 3 to my fleet. If I am confronted I will certainly not hesitate to get the police involved and I will no longer be taking my daughter with me when remote ID takes effect.
You're right, you're NOT; I carry every day every where! I literally don't go Anywhere at Anytime for Any reason without my sidearm. They're literally asking for BIG problems with this RID crap!
Which is EXACTLY why I plan on NOT complying with it, as it currently stands. I carry because I want to be able to protect myself should I have to, not because I actually wanna use it! I could see this actually putting me in a position where I may HAVE to use it. So to avoid that, I will simply NOT comply with RID...!!!
I acquired my 107 with the hopes of starting a drone operational company when I retired. For reasons beyond this topic, I never went that direction but have retained my 107 just in case. What I was hoping to be a professional passion turned into a hobby. Since my original aspirations, UAS piloting has become more and more restrictive (regulatory crap), even to the point of finding a place to fly without being harassed (public opinion). The public's knowledge of (or understandably lack of) FAA airspace coupled with new regulations are simply pushing my interests elsewhere. I'll fly my M2P, Mini2, and Skydio until the props or motors fall off, but I doubt if I will even look into complying with RID. I'm just a retired guy in Montana, let them come and lock me up!
As you may perceive from this comment, enforcement may be the weakest element (beyond the policy strategy itself) of RID.
They already have thought of it, heck they have sent me an email to state if I knew where the boundaries of the flight paths were near my home, I looked up local government spends and found that a drone tracking system was approved and installed and already commissioned around all airports and flight paths around me, these arrays are capable of pinpointing the locations.
I have a flight path just one street away and while some of my drones cant fly into them other drones can, you know exactly what I mean.
With this info they were able to send me an email that was sitting in my inbox when I went back to charge my battery.
Based on others I know it is showing a pattern. They will enforce it, it is like what I would call a Red Light Camera. Or a speed Camera, installed for our safety.
That's where you're incorrect. They won't lock you up. Just fine the hell out of you. You pay parking tickets don't you? What do you do when they stack up and they impound your car?
@@BruceFerrell that’s correct they won’t lock you up, but we over here can not stack up our tickets because they cancel our drivers license etc after defaulting on payments, I understand the laws there are different to here but we fall under the same fcc guidelines but while they are different the underlying rules are the same, 400ft AGL Distance’s from people crowds etc, while I am licensed here I sat a practice test for the 107 and I passed as almost the same rules apply. All I am trying to say is they are putting in place a way to police and action the people doing the wrong thing, I doubt that if you go to a park and it’s no where near anyone and you fly FPV that they would bother sending anyone out if you have no remote ID but if your anywhere near a place of interest then they will as it’s easy revenue
@@Drone-Pilot but can they prove you were the Pilot-In-Command? no? then f-them.
@@Drone-Pilot You are 100% correct. And the long term plans, because of the demand for drone delivery services and quasi-drone air taxi services for those approved flight paths to expand and the automated ATC systems with them
I'm studying for my part 107 certification and read about the Remote ID in the regulations section. I can't believe this. I'm fairly new to flying drones and love the freedom. I guess the one good thing is that I'm flying a mini 3. I hope something will change in the next 12 months that will shut down most of this. Thanks for you great videos and all the info you provide.
Just don't forget, if you get your 107 and use your mini 3 for 107 "use" then it too will REQUIRE registration AND RemoteID ~ regardless of the fact that it is under 250 grams... :(
your drone still broadcasts even under that weight but yeah you don't have to register it.
@@iWubmusic Unless you have a 107 license...
Less than a month out, and the FAA hasn't even released the Means Of Compliance doc so that manufacturers can comply. Regarding modules, today there is a 6 gram solder on module from Aerobits that costs over $189us. These modules look to be using Bluetooth chips and they like many other chips are in short supply. I wouldn't be suprised if all this gets pushed back due to supply issues.
Anytime the government tells you they are doing something "for your safety" you can be sure it's almost never actually for that.
[I'm based in the UK. I'm not a multi-rotor ('drone') pilot, but I do fly sub-250g RC gliders.] I'd be quite worried about the possibility of being tracked and traced by random members of the public when out flying.
I'm a woman and fly alone, flat-field and slope, usually far from groups of people. Although I'm reasonably confident that I can look after myself in 'conflict situations' (I trained in martial arts for over 25 years), I think that if I were in the States at the moment the most important bit of RC equipment to acquire would be a huge, devoted, protective dog to act as my 'spotter'.
It's good to have a friend to watch your back. 🐶👀
Safety for drone operators will be a problem. And yes I will be holding on to my older drones
yep, and do NOT update their firmware after the RID effective date !!! (assuming as I have heard some models will already be capable and simply need a FW update to "enable" it)
im just gonna carry, if your not law enforcement i dont need to tell you anything
Great video with many concerns. I think the rules will change because of Remote ID, and you will then have to register your mini drone. It did not matter in the past when the FAA was asking our feedback about Remote ID. They have decided to enforce it no matter what we say. Maybe some big shots within the FAA are getting some kickbacks from the big corporations that want to do drone deliveries.
Those that have the money can afford to lobby and fund those that make the laws, so they will win in the beginning. I believe once several pilots are attacked or robbed there will be some kind of class action lawsuit against RID and the rules and laws about RID will change to better protect the pilots. The lawmakers may be able to make a law and get it pushed through, but all it takes is one judge ruling that parts of RID are unconstitutional or illegal and things will change. Sort of like when Biden (Go Brandon!) created an executive order saying all federal employees had no choice but to get the COVID vaccination or they would be penalized up to and including separation from federal employment (being fired). A few months later the 5th Circuit Court ruled that was an unlawful order as it was a Hobson's Choice - either do what I say or lose your job, and there was no legal grounds to allow a President to force a medical procedure like this on any individual with the penalty being they lose their job. I think once RID passes some judge will rule RID is not in line with the 4th Amendment and the RID rules will be revamped to protect pilots and restrict who can track the remotes linked to the aircraft. One thing on our side is not many people will have a clue that they can track a drone pilot which will limit risks to some degree.
I’m just wondering, if that’s the case are all of their employees that pilot the drones gonna have to be parted 107 certified
@@derick12331 I don't see any way they can force people not to fly recreationally. The number of drone accidents with manned aircraft is so incredibly low that it would be exceedingly difficult to make a case for that type of law. I may be misunderstanding you, but if you're flying as an employee, that would likely not be considered as recreational flight and would require a part 107.
Yep, just like he said in the video, "they" can change the rules at any time.
So I say, DO NOT COMPLY and FLY ON!!! (do not EVER update firmware after RID goes into effect ~ just in case!)
My guess is they are afraid of how effective they've been used in Ukraine and want to be able to track location of anyone who flies one so they can immediately be targeted if we end up in an internal conflict
Thank you for the great service you offer to the drone Comunity. Truly appreciate your videos and diversified topics that offer wealth of knowledge.
I really do like your channel Russ and how you help all of us drone hobbyists. Thank you so much for keeping us informed.
This is the oldest video I’ve seen on the subject of RID, and I found it informative despite the number of newer videos I have watched. Well done, and thank you.
Being a Part 107 Pilot, I just hope that there are changes to Remote ID prior to its inception. I do not want my location to be tracked, and under 250 grams will mean nothing to me as to not needing to register, even thought I own the Mini 3 Pro. The good news is I do not live in a big city and flying a drone here has not been an issue with people.
A lot need to change 100%. I’m okay with remote ID as a concept for other pilots from drones up to full fledged aircraft. I am not okay with ANYONE in range being able to do that.
Why does the general public need to know where my drone is at all time if the general public isn’t also 200 feet AGL? Over empty land approaching something of interest? Does knowing there is a drone above you make the impact if it crashes and fall on you any better? I don’t get it what is the logic is at any rate of giving this to the general public.. really don’t.
Interesting comment. Mostly because I don't live in a big city but around here the ranchers and vineyard managers COMPLETELY FREAK OUT if you fly a drone anywhere near their property. I mostly fly for fun and do landscapes and an occasional video. Holy cow the nonsense some folks "know." And not one of them want to chat about it or see the what I'm up to. It's just threats and anger that end when I tell them to please call the police on me so I can be safe from them. Remote ID will definitely change my purchasing habits of drones, and likely how I go about using them.
On the other hand, I fly Part 107 and COA in a big city and nobody there even cares. The local government though, it goes out of its way to make sure we aren't spying on people by creating a mound of extra reporting that amounts to, well, a lot of extra work that nobody seems to care about.
@@tomfogle9607 yea the people of cities and towns usually don’t care or have an interest. Cops are always phishing when there’s a drone, they want sooo effing badly to arrest pilots. I had more then a few bad encounters with police even though I was completely legal and wasn’t disrespect I’ve until they became disrespectful.
That brings up another good and sad point. Police will abuse this if given access all the same shit. They phish for shit all the time and try to get people to become criminals over nothing constantly… do you think they going to pass up a opportunity to snag a drone pilot? Hell ya they going after it and that’s sad part, to them this is trophy hunting.
I wonder if you fly the Litchi app will not make any flight records of your flight? This is going to get out of hand. We need an organization such as the Ham Radio Operators have (ARRL).
@@Getfuqqedfedboy I got news for ya... ADSB IS tracked by ordinary people all the time. Granted an aircraft at 10000 feet is difficult to steal or harrass... But the tail IDs are broadcast and there is an on-line DB of where home is for that plane.
Encryption is a fantasy, if you can encode it, it must be decodable and that means at some point the "general public" has access.
Cars have license plates that can be tracked back with not too much effort.
Time for us to be grown ups, take reasonable precautions, and accept that while we may not like this right now, the growth of small aircraft like this means, ultimately, an air traffic control system with rules and regulations that need to be complied with.
PBS/NOVA has a recent episode on electric aircraft and in it they discuss the ATC being worked on by NASA and these transponders certainly seem to be an element of that system.
If the FAA *really* wanted to have a seamless tracking mechanism for all aircraft, they'd have everyone use ADS-B and not some new technology. Knowing where drones are flying could be important to a general aviation plane or helicopter in the area.
My man... ADS-B requires much more power to run than a drone could possibly output for longer than a few seconds 😅 I do get what you're saying though
@@fightme5543 The solution is much easier than you think. Instead of having that transmitter on the drone itself, the data stream could be sent back to the base station controller and that could do the transmitting.
The bigger point I'm trying to make here is that having data on 2 separate systems that a manned aircraft might not see still puts both drones and manned aircraft at risk. There needs to be ONE system that they both can use.
@@fightme5543 lol, that really isnt true. Adsb doesnt use much power at all.
Majority of drone fly below tree levels so it's really irelevant i feel like 🙃
@Swim Fan You are clueless as to the extent the surface of Earth is Radioactive from what is already bouncing around.
Informative videos mate , thanks . Do you know if remote ID will also be utilised in the UK?
OK thank you for pointing out the size of the drone give me choirs the tracking I appreciate that and you’re right nobody’s gonna buy the bigger drones unless it’s commercial use.
Thanks Russ. Even though I have the Mini 3, and fly under Part 107, I am going to have to comply with the module next year. I’m just wondering how many people will find the software necessary to find me and my drone?
same, i fly mostly farmfields anyway.
they just have to come find and get me wil i fly 10 lipos in 1.30 hour and be gone
As a Mavic Mini recreational pilot, the Remote ID requirement is a strong disincentive to Part 107 certification and investment in a +250 gram drone.
Well, if forced to add RID to a sub-250 drone, that will increase the takeoff weight to over 250, and force registration. Unless I'm missing something? That's one reason I've never been a huge fan of sub-250 gram drones. The manufacturers are forced to minimize to keep the weight down. The new Mini 3 Pro doesn't have a internal cooling fan, it has no built in landing legs so unless you're taking off from your hand or somewhere with no grass, or landing there, it's going to be a pain. Or if you want a full sized flight battery, that's over 250. I'd guess the frame is thinner and weaker than larger drones too. Oh, and one that is just stupid - the lens cover on the Mini 3 Pro isn't a lens cover, it's just window dressing. The opening in the front doesn't have any glass or anything. It's just an open hole so if you hit something against your camera lens, it has absolutely no protection. I strongly recommend people get ND filters, or at minimum a UV filter for that added layer of protection. Sorry for the off topic rant...oh, and the Mini 3 Pro doesn't even come with a charger, just a 20 inch USB-C cable.
Yeah, I have been studying for a 107 and now starting to think, since I AM willing to NOT comply with RID, why should I even bother getting my 107 then. If I'm going to break one "rule" why not another!?
@@troy5292 currently M3P will NOT need RID, since it's under 250g. UNLESS or until they change the rules of course... To which, I STILL will NOT comply!!! Everyone has a "tipping point" and for me, this RID crap, is the straw that broke the camels back. I will continue to fly, just NOT comply with their BS "rules"..!
@@sparcsapphiredge3087 Well, you'll be forced to fly older drones that do not already have RID by default. I don't see it as a big deal if you do this. You're only blocking the general public from finding you. The FAA and their subcontractors know where your drone and remote are seconds after you turn them on, before you even take off. So the FAA can track you, just not the general public, which is the goal anyway. if you fly illegally now, the FAA already has the flights on record, but unless you're being a nuisance and someone complains, they are not going to try and take you down and be jerks. From everything I've seen and read, the FAA gives people multiple chances/warnings to straighten up and fly right before they take any serious actions or impose fines. So, I'd say go ahead and get the part 107 and fly until the FAA has reason to complain. Fly safe and avoid complaints and you'll likely be fine for quite some time, just by not calling attention to yourself.
@@sparcsapphiredge3087 I'll likely to the same. I have the M3P, but I do plan on getting the fly more plus kit with the larger batteries. I doubt the FAA will crack down on sub 250 gram drones that have a little heavier batteries unless people really start acting like idiots and force it. I work for the federal government and the general consensus that federal employees sit around and do nothing isn't correct (in most cases). We're adequately staffed for the job when the job starts, but usually as people leave, retire, pass away, the work load just spreads to those that remain until they are overworked and cannot keep up. The team I'm on started with a supervisor and 10 employees, and now we're down to 4 employees. Myself and another high performing employee cannot keep up with every duty we have, so I asked if we were approved for any overtime or comp time to catch up on work and the supervisor said no OT is available, and he didn't see any reason we could not keep up with 100% of our duties and essentially said no comp time was going to be allowed. Well, I asked and any extra time was not approved, and since I worked about 1,000-1,500 free overtime hours, some days working 9 hours past the required quitting time, and it gained me nothing, so now I just work my 8 hours and stop. If it all gets done, great. If not, it's not my fault, it's the fault of my supervisory chain. When things start to fail they will have to figure it out. I'm assuming the FAA is in a similar situation. They don't have time to go and police everybody, but if someone complains, they have no choice but to take some kind of action. So, I'd bet as long as you do not fly in a way to make the FAA receive a complaint, they won't have the manpower to come and hunt you down because they are not staffed for that. That's my best guess based on my 22 years working for the federal government.
As always Russ, your presentation of the subject matter is spot on. It is clear to any interested party that you've done the work to present the facts in a manner that anyone with an IQ above room temperature can understand and appreciate what we are facing. I agree that the public at large does not not need to know what I'm flying and where I am when I am doing it! I agree with a previous commentor, make this a two way street, i.e., if someone accesses the proposed database, that information should be available as well. If litagation becomes necessary, you have the information. As always, keep up the good work.
Great video thank you. I feel this will hurt many because you will always come across some that have no life to go out and just bother us. Then it will turn into a conflict.
Remember FAA’s doing this as a national security issue. Remember the rule of “thou shalt not attach weapons, explosives that can be dropped from a drone”?
Well they got their proof with what’s happening in Ukraine.
Don’t be surprised if background checks being requested by the FAA.
This just sucks the fun right out of the hobby even if you’re a part 107 pilot it still keeps your head on a swivel for officials showing up with their credentials to wanting to look at your credentials.
Other than that, great video Russ. You’re doing an awesome job keeping the community informed and supplying an important service.
I'm gonna have to fill out a 4473 if I want a drone lol
no they are not they are doing it in the name of greed
I am part 107 and when RID is in affect, I will make sure and exercise my 2nd Amendment
As you should be!
Best video about Drone RID I've seen yet! Very insightful and real.
as always, great info! question? what happens if you have an older drone, like the Original Mavic Pro from 2016, and you don use the 3rd party module? is DJI going to lock you out? so you wont be able to takeoff? like its in a NFZ? Tks. In advance. Joey
I can see where there will be more confrontations that have the potential of turning deadly for the drone operator or the person confronting the operator. I can also see it leading to more drones being shot down (despite being illegal) without any legal repercussions to the person that shoots the drone down. Also I can see it leading to more congestion for law enforcement as more people call the cops about the drone in the air even if it’s not overhead. There is ZERO need for the public to have access to the information of the drone’s whereabouts much less the pilot’s location. The only people that should have access to the remote id info (drone location and pilot location) are the FAA and law enforcement agencies.
I think there's going to be more of us exercising our second amendment right then used to be. (I never stopped doing it.)
That is why when I fly anywhere from a launch point off my property I C&C.
"The only people that should have access to the remote id info (drone location and pilot location) are the FAA and law enforcement agencies." -- Why?
What are you suggesting is currently not working?
Lemme know how you feel about it when a camera equipped drone hovers near one of your windows or stands off a ways and there is no way to know who is/was flying it. Oh... You shot it down? Where is the footage it sent back to it's flight control point?
@@BruceFerrell footage is often automatically recorded by the remote controller for in case the drone is lost. Lower resolution than what is stored in the drone's SD card, but still viewable.
If someone is violating privacy laws with their very noisy drone, call the cops! The operator is likely nearby and visible if they search for them. I don't condone such illegal usage of a drone either.
Imagine the outrage if the ATF came out with a requirement for remote id on all guns.
I’m no expert but I don’t think criminals would follow that rule anyway.
The only reason that isn’t in effect now is a lot of backing and large wallets. Something we don’t have as a smaller group. Drone operators are easy pickings due to smaller numbers unlike the gun crowd. Otherwise this would have died long ago.
@@kmatch1 The hypocrisy of America. We don't do what makes sense... It sounds like we need to create the NDA and pay off a bunch of politicians. >.>
Nice explanations! Great info! This really helped me understand the new stuff! Good pointers as well! Thanks for all the ideas and advice!!
Thanks Russ
Sold all my “heavy” drones, just got mini 3 pro, which suits my needs flying in the U.K. and on holiday in Europe
Bryan
I just bought an MA2 and I’m bummed about the current FAA rules let alone MORE to come. I haven’t even flown my new bird yet because I already am thinking about selling it for something smaller. But you’re right, the powers that be will just start requiring the minis to have it too !
I guess I don’t mind if the authorities know what I’m doing, but I DON’T want Joe Blow average to know.
For me. I love flying. I recently obtained my part 107 so that I could continue to fly with confidence. I'm glad I did because of the knowledge I gained from it. As for remote ID. Right now I think the FAA is overwhelmed with the topic but if/when it happens it won't keep me out of the sky.
Thank you for all the great information new to drones and learning so much from you vids. I think I will stay under 250g
Thanks for another well organized and well presented video. Please keep up the good work.
people fail to realize, this apply to ALL planes, helicopter and drones that are remotely controlled.
all those new laws killed the RC hobby, i bought alot of RC parts to make my own planes. aerodynamics, battery capacity, maneuverability are all very important. small planes canot afford to have something strapped onto it willy-nilly without care. i sure as heck wont less some garbage GPS module suck my battery down just to broadcast useless information!
Good video, I am new to drones have have just started flying my new DJI Mini 2 here in the UK, someone said all drones with a camera have to have something called a "operator id" stuck to the drone "UK", There is no chance of that happening with my drone! I have been flying fixed wing rc aircraft for over 35 years without any problems, i will do the same with my drone too, i am very sensible how and were i fly and not to draw unwanted attention to myself while flying and enjoying my hobby.
Great video as usual Russ!
Do powered parachute aka ultralight needs remote I’d? They just fly around anywhere
I thought that the RID specifics (pilot location, name, etc.) was only going to be accessible by law enforcement? When did this change to just open broadcast to anyone?
😂 think there's going to be alot that doesn't do it! Won't be surprised to see some hack's coming out how to get around em! 😆 I got zoom and pro from 2017 so not going to worry bout it!
Russ I love your content, videos, & opinions, like how you've always had a 'No BS' approach on touchy debatable topics like this. I rarely comment but I just had to throw my two cents in on this subject..
As a newer drone pilot (of approximately 2 years now) & studying for my Part 107 now as well, I do have grave concerns about RID, especially for commercial purposes in higher populated areas.. I FIRMLY believe in keeping the sky's safe above our heads but there has GOT to be a better way of Initiating this!! Maybe RID access for law enforcement (first responders) FAA, Air traffic pilots, etc. BUT NOT THE OPEN GENERAL PUBLIC FOR GOD SAKES!!!
And also from what I understand, if ur Part 107, it doesn't matter if ur drone is sub-250 or not, you'll still need a RID unit attached to it for commercial use. I own several drones but the two I use the most are over 250 grams..
Just my opinion... I believe if this is incorporated as it stands, the more documented incidents that arise from theft, bullying, & overall safety jeopardization could eventually lead to a (another) major class action lawsuit against the FAA.. it'll be interesting to see what happens & I'm really hoping that RID is refined to be a little more friendly to the respectable law abiding drone pilots out there before this deadline occurs.
I need help!!! I'm building an moa rc crawler. Will a drone esc allow me to control the motors speed independently from each other? Goal is to press a button and have front wheels spin either faster or slower.
Fantastic video and thank you! I have my part 107, but all of my flights are still recreational. Maybe some day that will change, but currently I have no plans to go pro and nobody has asked me to help with this or that using my drone. If the R-ID implementation timeline and rules remain as is, who is going to be enforcing the use of the module on a drone that does not have standard R-ID?
Most drone flights/operations are under 30 minutes. By the time an overly concerned individual or group realizes that the drone isn't broadcasting R-ID info and contacts law enforcement who is then dispatched, the flight will have ended and the pilot will be gone. Whos job is it to "prove" that the pilot was or was not using the R-ID module properly during a given flight? Also, what are the rules when it comes to using the R-ID module? What if I accidentally leave it turned on after a flight and am cruising down the road in my car at 70mph for 90 minutes? I could go on and on as I'm sure most of us could. Clearly this whole thing hasn't been very well though out.
I wonder if there are any restrictions on who could buy a RID module and what they could do with it. Have anyone who can afford one put one on their car, bicycle, dog, lawn mower, kite, etc... The FCC coordinates/specifies frequency/power usage in the US. Not the FAA. (and you don't need any form of license for your home wifi router or piles of goofy "Smart Home" stuff.)
The only consolation I can think of is that aggressors seem to have no trouble finding us on the ground already. Remote ID certainly won't help the situation, but it's already a trivial task for a determined Karen or criminal intent on harassment or robbery to find us on the ground.
So to me, it's more of RID just making an already bad situation for drone pilots worse, more than it is creating a new, dangerous situation where there wasn't one before. We already have to be cautious and should already take self-defense measures to insure our personal security and safety when we fly, IMO.
I also think it'll be like a lot of other FAA regulation, where compliance levels will be very low at the beginning (public inability to comply with regulation isn't a new problem for the FAA). Most of us will just keep flying under the radar (literally) until some means of compliance finally appears, or we achieve some steady state, but low level, FAA neglect of enforcement.
The "Fat Ultralight" situation that followed the introduction of part 103 is a good example from history. Compliance with part 103 for ultralight "vehicles" was very difficult to do safely and economically. So for literally decades, ultralights were "a little overweight" for both safety and simple economic reasons. FAA enforcement of the part 103 requirements was very lax during this period, and it probably still is.
I think RID will go the same way....
Thank you so much for sharing this info - they really need to re-write the rulebook!
Great Information ~ Thank You For Your Continuing Coverage Of The Incredibly Important Issue Sir!
Broadcasting the location of the person flying the drone is insane. Where I like to fly, the #1 cause of people confronting drone pilots is people not knowing the laws and regulations about where people can fly. People have heard that drones are banned in all US National Parks, and they think that means they're also banned on all National Recreation Areas and National Conservation areas. Which is completely untrue. Drones are allowed everywhere in the National Recreation Area and the National Conservation area where I and many other pilots like to fly, yet we're constantly confronted by angry people who try to tell us that we're breaking the law. A lot of us pick inconspicuous places to fly from, but now the feds are going to send the Chads and Karens right to us.
add to the places to fly: National Forrests.
Imagine the Karens just waiting for someone to show up.
This is so frustrating. National Parks are where you SHOULD be flying a drone. It's public land, owned by everyone, with no expectation of privacy outside of very specific places (like, the bathrooms). Where I DON'T want a drone is over my Private Property (unless I'm the one operating it).
why come to two NYC you got thousands and thousands of illegal aliens riding around with motorcycles and mopeds with no licenses plate,s on it, it looks like brazil and they are Riding on the sidewalks at 40 mph or going against traffic if they can do it why do we need to give our id its bull, is that how it goes Rules for thee but not for me I had the mini 2 just I just got the mini 3, when that law comes out I'm going over two autel drones I'm done with DJI law and order, how many people are getting rob and killed on those scooters and motorcycles. and they wanna control our drones, when was the last time a drone Rob you or killed you, 1 in 100 million
If this Drone ID will let any karen see where you are, then there needs to be regulations and laws against people who are harassing drone operators who are flying their drone legally. I conceal carry and will now carry my sidearm with me every time I fly my drone.
As of this writing I cannot find any Drone ID modules on the web anywhere.
I think open carry will need to be the norm for drone pilots. When crazy guy comes to confront you when he thinks you are spying on him, the Glock on your hip will calm him down.
@@KomarBrolan That is just inviting trouble. I live in SC, which is an open carry state. I conceal carry every day but will never open carry. It is just inviting a possible confrontation. Not to mention that if you live in a state that does NOT allow open carry, you are inviting trouble from law enforcement.
Yikes! Firearms and drones! 🤔
FYI, if you fly a DJI product your drone already broadcasts most of this stuff but isn't yet remoteID compliant. The barrier is paying DJI $$$ for their proprietary system.
Well, I've been around for 54 years now. I have, since I have ever know and will always be a nerd.
I have had countless drones, trucks under and on water stuff, the very first digital cameras ever sold and built and was the computer guy and still am now. Thank you for passing on your passion, knowledge, techniques
Bla bla, bla.. bla.
Thanks for teaching me just by doing what you do
Wayne E
I will send you what I create wit my mini 3
Then the word "draganfly" should ring a bell.. I was there first!
What bothers me the most about the pilot location is there's zero doubt in my mind on what kind of people are going to be looking that information up. It's not going to be somebody interested in drones who wants to chat or somebody with a legitimate concern about somebody flying where they shouldn't. It's 100% going to be the lunatics that think every drone is spying on them personally and that we already see getting belligerent with completely safe, legal, and reasonable flying.
Right? There are way too many conspiracy nutcases running around, this will just give them more ammunition. And believe me, they are armed. In their eyes, every drone will be a gubmint drone. Never mind that it’s the very same government telling them where the pilot is.
you're saying it's gonna start the drone pilot hunting season? sounds like a nice hobby to endorse... drone pilot hunting, just tor fun.
Lets just remember that every action has a counter action, and it will open much more the hacked drones market.
The thought of this data available to the public via an API or an app sounds twisted and perverted from the start.
Pilot location is the one issue I truly have with RID. Guess I'll be carrying on every flight now or arrange for an armed escort. Since the FAA and the US government has put my equipment at risk as well as myself. Scary times ahead. Be sure to plot your course accordingly. It's always painful when you've been sold out for the corporations. Maybe I can get some tube socks delivered as a means of making up for it, in ten years.
Nice Ken Heron reference. 🙂
I was thinking the same thing, need real protection just to fly now.
I was just thinking about how people get mugged for their e-bike. Now, they’ll come find me for my flying $500.
Hell yeah, now I can sell my services as a drone pilot guard
@@blacklightredlight2945 That's called a spotter! Pretty nice
Hello Russ. Perfectly stated, Sir! I agree with you comments and everything you covered in the video. Take Care!
Hello Russ I have a question off-topic I’m currently getting ready to sell or pawn my Mavic two pro what should I do to protect myself in case the new owner flies in an unsafe manner or becomes involved in an accident, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Thomas
I'm a relatively new Rec pilot, but have been studying for my 107. TBH, I don't know how to feel about this but agree that being able to pinpoint a pilots location (takeoff or otherwise) will allow the Kevin's and Karen's of the world to do their thing easily. I'm not afraid of too many people, but being harassed while concentrating on having a successful, fun flight will be hard if we're constantly confronted. I'm taking a "wait and see" about my advancement in this hobby now... which is sad.
Just buy a drone now and dont even worry about remote id sub 250 gram.
I'm kind of thinking the same right now. Been studying for my 107 but I have NO intent to comply with RID as it currently stands. Which leads me to think, maybe I can just "disobey" the 107 stuff too (fly to make money w/o a 107)...
This must be what they want! Oh well, I carried a firearm illegally in IL SEVERAL years before it was finally legalized. "Don't ask don't tell" >.>
Oh I don't think it's the Karen's you will have to fear in today's world.
You act like your flying a plane you should be more than capable of keeping your drone in the air and smacking the fack out of a Karen at the same time with no issues
I'm always carrying when I'm out flying
Same here!
@@Brock857 this world is crazy enough with news giving drones a bad reputation on spying and evading people's privacy like I'm not here to entertain you & your not important to me I'm out here flying taking pictures of the city, I have already encountered a few good & bad encounters to the point where my life was threaten in a public park just because I brought out a drone hearing the words (there better not be a camera on that drone or I'm gonna... Blah.. Blah.. Blah) like truly this world has crazy people out here
Me too!
Great video Russ! You nailed every point.
Will the add on module update the control station location if you update your return to home location after moving from the original launch point?
Hopefully this can spur the development of hacks and workarounds to disable Remote ID on our drones.
Once Remote ID goes into effect I urge all pilots to be armed when they fly.
Fortunately, we don't regulate guns in this country. Only drones can hurt people. Could you imagine the backlash if you had to have Remote ID on your firearm?
Only evil people will fly drones. Apparently that's how some folks think about firearms...SMH. Idgits.
Criminals would know who didn’t have guns and could target them or could plot to steal those who had them. Let’s hope common sense prevails and that never happens.
Very fortunately, in my country we do regulate all guns. Maybe best to leave the combination of UAVs and guns to the professionals who are using them in a theatre of war and not in some neighbourhood park.
Happy and "safe" flying 😁😎
@@twoheadlines No offense but I consider the regulations of all guns in your country very unfortunate.
2:27 next time I'm at Target, "excuse me, where's the foot fungus aisle?" 🤣
So, I've been doing some digging and it seems that the FAA ended up going with the BRID (Broadcast Remote ID) version for all drones, as I haven't seen a cellular data (Network Remote ID) option in any of the FAA guidelines, is that true? I ask because here in Australia we're going through this process and our regulator CASA is asking us for feedback - Im wondering why they seem to have changed and arent using cellular network to transmit Remote ID anymore?! (or am I missing something?!)
So if they’re going to force you to put one of those on a sub 250 g drone are they going to increase the limit from 250 g to allow for it
That's what I was thinking. Forcing a remote ID module on a sub 250g drone will push it over 250g. This is going to create a lot more headaches than they are ready for.
@@SurpriseMechanics already built in just software relaying it. just a software toggle need be be enabled at this stage.
@@Getfuqqedfedboy huh my 3 inch doesn't even have a gps, not sure how a software switch would turn on remote id.
A sub 250 is not required to have R.I.D. if flown for recreation. If you fly under part 107 rules. Then yes....See time 7:18 in video
@@jimanderson4865 Seems a bit of a waste of time then all this argument as most of the drones which are complained about by the public will probably be 250 g drones and if there’s no need for any more ID on them then they won’t be able to check anything anyway and it doesn’t really matter to me much as I’m in the UK
More details are coming out. Good news it’s only local likely blue tooth range. It won’t be tied to web data. That idea was killed by the group of various drone representatives pretty quickly. Part 108 is mainly clarification on the grey areas. It won’t impact hobby fliers much but the Karen factor is definitely still a factor 👍
There's nothing to stop people from recording and sharing the RID data, just like is done with manned aircraft data now via ADS-B. I would bet heavy this will happen, especially in densely populated areas.
Does the Mini 3 Pro I received 2 weeks ago have the necessary hardware installed to be RID compliant? I use heavier batteries and use my drone commercially. I mostly use my M3Cine but have, and will, use the Mini to make reels. (yes I'm 107 licensed) I'm hoping it will just be a firmware update for compliance, the RID module if necessary will doubtlessly reduce flight time on such a small drone.
Thanks for sharing this message with me.
I've read that all of that would only be available to law enforcement and the faa.. Not the general public. As a 107 RPIC, I don't have a problem with it as I don't break any of the rules, but IF it's publicly available in real time, that's definitely going to be problematic
it adds a new piece of required equipment, a gun, to your flight bag.
@@skesseks I'm in Texas... That was part of day to day before I started flying drones
Guess this will simply just push more Drone Pilots to conceal carry weapons to prevent/stop theft.
FYI... If you're flying the Mini 3 Pro... make sure you have the DJI Intelligent Flight Battery (not the plus version) -- it says "ultra light" (2453mAh capacity -- 34 minutes flight time). The DJI Intelligent Flight Battery Plus (3850mAh capacity -- 47 minutes flight time) will put you over the 250 limit.
I am a hobbyist so when the rule goes into effect will I be able to operate my mini 2se anywhere commercial drones can fly as long as I attach a remote i.d. module?
It would be a shame if my add on module for remote ID malfunctioned when I started to fly that day and I was not aware it wasn't transmitting...nod wink wink 😉
Remote operated switch, problem solved.
Control station is a bad deal. I’ve been stolen from, had a police officer take the controller out of my hand in my own back yard, and got hit by a thrown hard hat. That’s with me flying with an additional visual observer too!
It’s sad that the agency certifying us is still treating us as criminals. No respect.
Wow, where do you live man? City/state/area?
@@krisiluttinen Indianapolis
@@Shauny_D That cop, presumably, committed a federal felony! You should (or should have) reported him to the FBI!
@@sparcsapphiredge3087 I don't have any info, badge number or name or anything. I was so shocked in the moment I didn't do much of anything.
Those are possible violations of 49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants. I don't know if it's been tested in court yet by a drone pilot.
thanks for supporting the cause and xjet 👍
So I fly recreationally for myself and commercially for my clients. I'll be transitioning to the mini pro 3 soon. Will I have to have remote ID active next September 2023 even though the drone is under 250 grams? Thank you !
My Mini 3 Pro arrives tomorrow. I agree that the government will simply change the rules down the road to ensnare more hobbyists. I will simply do what I normally do when the government encroaches on my rights - refuse to comply. I think we need remote trackers on government officials, not citizens.
As a part 107 I don't really care for emote Id but I also legally carry a concealed pistol. So if someone comes looking to be a thief or to assault me they are lining up to win a Darwin award
Same here, ANYONE who approaches me (with ill intent) while on flight can expect to take the asphalt temperature challenge !!!
@@sparcsapphiredge3087 i miss that show I'm going on that station now , thanks
Here's a question if you add the remote ID mod to the mini will it put it over the 250 gram limit and then your in violation of not having it registered as well? It seems like a catch 22
Thank you for your broadcast on Broadcast I.D.. I bought my first "real" drone (a Deerc D 22) way back in March of 2023 and moved up to the Mini 3 Pro and I am very happy with it! The D 22 was registered, the Mini 3 is not. I am a recreational TRUST certified pilot. I was thinking of getting my part 107 and add a Mavic 3 but now, I need to see if it will be worth it first. The only time I was confronted was with a park ranger in Concord, NC. at Frank Liske Park. By the way at the park manager's request sent him a link to your "We Need to Stop This" video. I too do not like even the remote thought of having my physical whereabouts known while I am trying to get fun cool areal footage legally!
My idea to combat anything happening to me while I’m flying is to carry a rather high caliber friend with me!!!!! Thanks!!!!!
Have a friend with you at all times when you fly.
@@Razor-gx2dq and even when you're not (flying)!
Not a bad idea, but your still very venerable when your wearing goggles, it really puts us at a disadvantage.
Public access to anything other than the remote ID number is overstepping in my opinion. LEOs should have all the information available on a drone but not the general public.
Enforcement is going to be interesting. Who is going to find the drone operator who is not broadcasting their remote ID data? Who is going to prosecute farmer John for interfering with a pilot, because drones are considered aircraft by FAA and that makes it a federal crime to interfere with a pilot lawfully operating an aircraft.
Does this really need to escalate to the point of all drone pilots getting concealed carry permits for self defense? I can see the signs now, "Armed drone pilot operating on a lawful mission. Please do not interfere or you will be shot."
Why can't someone at FAA actually think about this logically?
Easy answer. Money 💰
For clarification, the felony laws apply to persons on an aircraft. Very commonly spread misinformation though, that it has anything to do with drones or drone "pilots".
@@StormBurnX Exactly. But why are GA pilots more protected than drone pilots? If I have to tell the entire world, via remote ID, my location and the drone I'm flying, the least the government can do is afford us the same level of protection as GA pilots.
That said, no one will prosecute anyone that endangers a drone flight.
What kind of radar do ya need to see and locate a "regular" sized drone? Can a Class B airport radar see them?
@@RobertBrown-yn9tx I don't know the answer to that question but I suspect the airports can see more than we might imagine based on some personal experience.
Back in spring 2018 (I think?) I was a freshly minted 107 pilot flying a real estate job when LEOs rolled in on me asking me what I was doing flying so close to the airport. I had a LAANC authorization because they had just come out. I was respectful and tried to do a little education and out reach but they were having no parts of it. In an effort to be a good person (and avoid a free ride downtown) I canned the mission and listened to the guys with badges. The next day, I called the local FSDO office and explained what had happened and asked if I was out of line or not doing something right because I wanted to be a responsible commercial operator. The guy at the FSDO office asked me a few questions including approximately where and when I was flying. I hear typing in the background. He comes back with, "Yeah I see where you were flying and I see you did have an authorization. Mavic Pro right?" I never told him that but responded with a polite, "yes sir" and he told me I was doing everything correctly and the officers need to catch up on the new rules.
My take away was that the local class B airport knew where I was, what I was flying, and probably a whole lot more than what they shared with me.
Did they pick me up on radar? Dunno but that FSDO guy seemed to know a lot more than I thought he might.
As a new drone operator, i understand the concern about broadcasting pilot location. I also have a license for ham radio. Using an operator's call sign, their address is public information. Remote pilots are, in a sense, a radio station operating an aircraft- which is also transmitting. I don't agree with any location info being public, but it's fair to say this is being done across the board. They chisel away at our privacy a little bit at a time. People look the other way because it's this or that little group being affected. Make no mistake, if you're not affected by regulations like this, you will be. By then, the people getting tracked already won't care and will be like, "Yeah, it's your turn."
Totally agree
Avoidance Strategy: Mount a low power transceiver on the drone, this is the "control station" it receives transmissions from you. And reports its own location: the same as the drone. Alternatively, have a sub 250 g drone control the larger drone.
One issue, the sub-250 gram limit is the take off weight. If you add a low power transceiver, I'm pretty sure your takeoff weight would be over 250 grams which would require registration.
Although after seeing your comment again, I do have to applaud your ingenuity as inspired. I'm not sure how one would use one drone to pilot another drone though? How is that possible without building a homemade drone?
@@troy5292 he mentioned remote I d is for drones that have to be registered I.E 250 grams + so mini owners won’t have this ball ache .
@@troy5292 Though you wouldn't need a completely custom drone, you would probably need custom control logic. The simplest is that the big drone mimics the pilot drone's orientation and altitude a fixed vector away. Almost all of the logic can live on the big drone. Then you fly the pilot drone normally. More flexible setups would involve the pilot drone transforming your control signals. For example, your control signal to "make the big drone go up" could have the pilot drone sending a signal to "change the vector between the big and pilot drone." Or maybe the pilot drone is continually reporting its position & orientation to the big drone, and making the big drone go up is making the pilot drone lie about its position. Or maybe you select which sticks are "live" for the pilot when a particular stick is not "live," the pilot forwards that stick's commands to the big drone. It all depends on what determines the control station's location legally. I think there's a good case that the "fixed vector" method would place the control in the pilot drone. Because if someone were to tie a rope to the pilot drone and drag it downward, the big drone would go down even if your remote is telling the pilot drone to fly upward. So your remote is not the control station.
@@oscarfellenburg711 The 250 gram weight isn't the drone, it is the take off weight with every bell and whistle attached to the drone. So if you add anything to a 249 gram drone on takeoff, it is going to be 250 grams or more and legally require registration. About the only things you can add to a sub 250 gram drone are lens filters or ND filters, but that's not adding so much as replacing an existing part.
I would still love to see the FAA create a new airspace that IS 50ft and under (except near an airport). Create an airspace that is no more relevant to aircraft flight than my tree is tall.
I was taking trees out of my yard and rented a bucket and was working at the top of the trees (51ft) but to launch a drone in my backyard...I can't...due to the flight path of aircraft (we are on a direct approach to our local municipal airport). I am physically in airspace cutting down a tree or standing on my roof to inspect it...but a drone is illegal in those spaces. Illogical.
It’s a concept called shielded operations. There has been some talk of this lately, hoping that we can get something like that, especially in avoiding the VO rule for FPV
Nice video thanks for the 💡 ideas
Ok, I’m asking you because I am not confident with the answers I have gotten so far. Will the mini 3 pro that I plan on flying under part 107 at times, be remote ID compliant?
Commercial drone companies will find that this bites them when they cannot conceal operational information. With a radio receiver, you will be able to map the entirety of their last-mile logistics. You'll know who their customers are and where they are located and when those packages are delivered. To do that now, you'll need to follow drivers through the city. But with the system you describe, a few strategically located antennas suffice.
See above. Liability insurance for comm
I think it will definitely increase scoff-laws…I think there’ll be a lot more people who will “take their chances” at not getting caught.
For sure.
seat belt laws did that for a while too. People got tired of paying the fines and municipalities got fat from the for a while. Money talks
You're probably right, just like there were those who took their chances with seat belt laws... The fort ticket was small. The second higher. "waddaya mean it's $500 bucks!"
I am one of them!
@@BruceFerrell I still don't wear a set belt.i don't live near big cities
Excellent info Russ & well presented!
When I look up what the FAA is putting out about remote id I see that under the second method where you add an aftermarket remote id module you can’t fly out of line of sight. Does this indicate that if you are using a drone with it built in you will be able to fly out of line of sight?