2023 Ford Transit: Is This Better Than The New Mercedes Sprinter?
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- Today I drive and review a 2023 Ford Transit E-350 HD 148" Wheelbase!
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The price is insane, 70k, i have the same size Transit just 2015, invoice was 42k, mind blowing
our 2015 was about that price too, but the 15s also don't have most those features that this van has..
@@ryanmoore686 a base transit extende drw and ecoboost is 55k now, it was 40 in 2015, doesn't really have any extra technology
70k is a joke. My 2017 was 44k.
@@Iuliancik to be fair, EVERY vehicle is so much more expensive. like, by a long shot. It sucks
@@AntiATF not all manufacturers jacked prices like Ford did, sprinters did not go up even half as much
I don’t like the fact that it has no physical climate controls. We’ve got a 2020 transit 250 fully loaded with the big screen and it still has physical climate controls which I cannot live without.
Agreed. Drove one with the huge screen and it had no physical climate buttons which annoyed me. It’s also kinda dangerous imo
I'm going daily a Transit some day, they are so functional, comfy, cupholders!!!
Mercedes is no more reliable. We got stock 3 times with a 2022 mercedes chassis while travelling. Electronics and computers problems…………the ecoboost engine on Ford is reliable and simple to work on it and there is dealers everywhere. Most of the Mercedes dealers doesn’t want to work on a class B motorhome ………
Im guessing Mercedes will cost an arm and a leg when getting serviced when compared to a Ford.
Wow! That locking divider is so practical! Why don't more people use these for van builds?
Because these are small vehicles for an RV and most people want to install swivel seat bases so they can use the cab as additional living space while camped.
@@dlg5485 I understand what you're saying, but to me safety is more important than being social, plus I'm thinking it would just be me and dog , and only the occasional guests so I don't find the swivel safe or practical for my situation. 🤷🏾♂️
If for any reason I have enough money to buy one of these, I definitely would fire sure, it feels like it would be really fun to drive tbh.
I got the 2023 350 extended. (Not dually) in my old job we had promasters , I drove the oldest which was like a 2015 to the newest 2022. No comparison. Ford feels so much better , a lot roomier for the driver and passenger and better MPG in my opinion. I don't need towing so I got the naturally aspirated v6 (non turbo) , it works just fine for the job that I'm doing. Just be prepared for the big oil changes , they use 12 qts of oil. Not 6 like the turbo version. Overall I'm pretty happy with the vehicle.
100%
12 quarts in a v6? Why lol
The capacity isn't 12 qts. It's a misprint in the service manual, the oil capacity for that engine has been 6qts for over 10+yrs.
@@alextran8188 my new job has diesel v6 sprinters and they take 14 qts lol but when I did ac we had pro masters. For installs he had one Chevy box truck and one pro master box truck. Pro master was trash. Felt like it was constantly about to flip. And since it’s fwd coming out of any parking lot to the main road all the weight shifts and your spinning the tire barely hitting the gas. Plus it felt slow
@Alex Tran not a misprint. 47k miles already and going on my 5th oil change. 12 qrts for the V6 duratec non turbo. You can google it
Fords ecoboost > merc’s turbo diesel. More power and torque, and a over dollar less per gallon in most of the country.
I drove Ford Transit about 10 years ago the smaller one. It damaged my body real bad. You would feel everything that is on the road even the smallest rocks. It was so loud and so uncomfortable. Just my opinion. Hopefully this was is way better.
The HUGE problem now is getting any new/newer vehicle repaired at a dealer when you have a problem. You may have to wait a month before they will see it then getting parts is is well good luck. Many older good tech's left the workforce. Each new year brings vehicles that are more complex out pacing most tech's. Which most are not tech's they are mechanics. Even the manufactures are have big issues programing the computer systems. Just b/c you can spin a wrench don't mean you can come close to troubleshooting a control problems. Anyone thinking you just plug a laptop into it and bigo there is the problem, LoL. I watched this happen coming out of the 70's into the 80's in the industry I worked. Going from mechanical/electro mechanical to micro proceed base equipment. I just bought a new Transit 350HD, got it home and found the windshield wipers don't work properer. Take it to the dealer, "you need a new motor". 10 days later they replaced the motor and short out the plug and burned up the wiring harness and plug. Got a 2017 Ridgeline been waiting 2 months for a BCM. It would take a hour to explain what went and going down over this BCM. I'm down 2 vehicles 😒. Ford dealer says they can't even get a harness... 🔥Ever see a DC fire? The wire goes much like a fuse on a firecracker.
I find the Sprinters (on my third one now) easier to work on than most modern vehicles. Commercially-designed vehicles with less electronics, and set up for fleet operations with in-house maintenance. Very different than my consumer Mercedes vehicles, which can be very difficult for a consumer to access, diagnose and repair.
"I can stand up in here" is a poor way to review the cargo area. For those of us that might want to convert it to an RV, exact hight, width and length would be more useful and make you seem like a more "professional" van reviewer.
Google is your friend. I hate when reviewers read off a bunch of specs that I can find online, if I care 🤔
@@puckcoach3 Well I don't hate it when they give a "bunch of specs" as a matter of fact I expect them in a side by side comparison. Google it? Kind of proves my point because I saw a "is Transit better than Sprinter" video and no mention of it's dimensions. How can you compare the two without mentioning that one is taller, wider or longer?
When these are set up as RV's or Overland vehicles they are really cool.
I like over paying for repairs so the Sprinter van is more suitable for my needs.
I like building overhead cabinets that have to be made very shallow so they’re useless and that I have to curve down in the front so they’re useless so I prefer the Transit passenger van
If you don't do your own work, you're opening your wallet and turning your head no matter what brand you buy. Comparing with my brother's Ford products (we both own small businesses,) I'd say the shop maintenance costs are neck and neck. Interested in the origin of your info, if you don't mind.
I like the cup holder.
Like the dash. Like the simple, unpretentious, easy to clean materials.
Yes FORD! Good Video bro!
What's the shortest model? Is there a 18ft version like the ram?
Does this also have the automatic engine shut off. I hate that feature.
Nice Transit but Sprinter vans engines are designed to last 2x as long as EcoBoost, no button to unlock 270 door opening, more available cargo volume in a Sprinter, and standard cross wind protection. You have to buy 2 Transit vans to equal the life of a Sprinter van but great information. I think the seats are better in a Sprinter too! Can you get 3 front cabin seats on a Transit and do they do a crew van with 2nd row seats? Looks like I have some homework to do!
You can definitely buy a second Transit for what you pay for Sprinter's maintenance. There is a reason people switch over.
Sprinter maintenance is 15,000 to 20,000 mile intervals. No need to buy a second van, just keep rolling. @@arturz5072
There’s no getting around the price gouge of those German parts on the sprinter. Plus German parts availability if you have a problem a long way from home.
@@arturz5072 I have driven both. two advantages to Transit, lower base price and lower step in height. Other than that, horrible fuel mileage, slipping transmission, electronic gremlins - no thanks to the Transit. Buying a Transit over a Sprinter is like buying a Jeep product over a Toyota because the Jeep was cheaper! you want quality, you gotta pay for quality!
@@MikeGablerall European cars are huge money pits in the US. I work in a body shop and some of the headlights for European cars are like 3k lmao.
Need the Chevy express for the full cargo van line up
Love this need this work van in my life
Ever since the trade war, covid 19, the car price has doubled, I am still using my old van.
Thank for the video.
2023 fort transit has gasoline version?
Nice to view a Passenger Van version as well sometime these are always great cargo vans
The fact the roof start sloping down a couple of feet behind the driver seat screws up RV conversions. Did they get rid of all of the side airbags behind the driver seat yet because they also screw up RV conversions I prefer Sprinter passenger vans because you get all the windows Without the side airbags being in the way of your overhead cabinets
Dude, I had to check to see if I had sped up the video to 1.5 but it was normal.
Ben - is a Ford hybrid Powerboost Transit coming out?
The most popular van in the world
I wonder. Do those cameras also record like a dash cam?
Gas guzzeler at 14 mpg, we like power in the States. in Europe and Mexico they have the diesel version same torque, at 30+ mpg, beat that ecoboost 3.5L gas.
We need mild hybrid, at this level of vans....
What do they call an European or Mexican buying the Transit with the 3.5L ecoboost engine? It does not exist, it will never happen, that is how spoiled we r in the States.
Transits can't be idled, i fix them every day, they shred tires really fast, the turning radius is terrible, they go through spark plugs every 52-60k, they have lots of coolant leaks from water pumps and the aluminum coolant fittings mounted on top of the turbos, especially the driver side. Not fun to replace
I way overpaid for my transit! Non overhead storage, no heated seats, no extended mirrors, not rear view mirror! No wonder it was available. I obviously didn’t do my research. I am such a sucker!!
Been trying to convince my job to get 2 new transits a baby one and one like this
We have promasters that are the worst ones we got
Ben, please do a comparison of the Transit with the Ford Naturally aspirated V6 with the 4.10 rear end, vs. the Ecoboost with a 3,73 rear end for towing and for acceleration.
Ecoboost smokes the V6. 400lb ft of torque vs 260. 4.10 gears in the non boosted v6 don't make up the difference. If you plan on towing only one way to go.
@@kona64512 Transits for me. Both had 3ltr diesel. Thousands for repairs and upkeep. Never ever again!
@@kona6451which way
@@sergiourbina5568 boosted
When you mention the engine, you should give rated mileage.
I'd like to buy and own a Ford Transit to replace my 24yr old Chevy Express but it's still too expensive. Either I wait or never get one. (test drove one, much better than a Sprinter)
I drove both as well and the sprinter is waaaay better 😊 fit and finish Sprinter is a much nicer vehicle
@@rockybear702 If you have the money.
@@KA9DSL the Transit AWD cost as much as the Sprinter. The sprinter is just a way nicer vehicle. That's all. 😃 And the most popular world wide. I have a Sprinter 4x4 2016. I wouldn't trade it for a new Ford
I love Ford transit vans!! Amazing job Ben.
Ben, Buy it. Trade in the Mustang today. You need that "cargo" van for your daily runs to the baby diaper supply house for your new baby. Cheers.
Lol
I’m not aware that they’ve changed anything about the body especially the roof and that’s the biggest problem with doing an RV conversion with a transit even more so with the transit passenger van
Crickets!
how is the dually transit so low with payload compared to same spec sprinter?
I have owned and driven many Sprinters and Transits as daily drivers and on very long trips. There are plus and minus to each of them for sure. I prefer Sprinter - better mileage, turning radius, ground clearance, and stability at high speeds/wind. Transit-easier to get service, less turbo lag, cockpit more typical F-150ish cockpit, but less money. For conversions the Sprinter is way easier to do a campervan build on for a DIYer. Almost a Ford vs Chevy type of comparison in my opinion.
Can you explain why sprinter is easier to DIY campervan build? Thanks.
What’s the price for this one?
Transit is not cheaper already,, they are pretty much the same price, a few hundred dollars difference for same size
@@steveguan579 Unless they completely redesigned the Transit body for this model, the roof on the transit starts sloping downward about two feet behind the front seats. Also, the Transit passenger vans and possibly crew van, all have airbags on the sides in back. Both features greatly interfere with having useful overhead cabinets.
Mechanic chiming in...plan for head gasket failure at around 150k on the Mercedes...as well as high pressure pump leaking...after 150k they become money pits
At the end, all that talk about powertrain, still don’t know the rated fuel economy. I saw they didn’t give you much fuel for your test.
Can you fit a full size 48/48 inch pallet between those wheel wells?
Yes
How quickly you rattle! It makes me nervous. You would accomplish more by taking it a little slower.
This may be a step-in van is this is the largest cargo van you can get before a cube van.
2023 Ford Transit 350HD AWD Dually Hightop Van!
This van is all over the place now. I recall these vans first came to the United States. I recognized them from Europe. I used to call them "Euro" vans. Then the other brands came after them. I saw years ago when everything started going global, I slowly be surely noticed the "American" identity going away. It still is. Ford and GM had to go global because they could cater to different markets globally because of costs. Then we started seeing more global products brought to the United States. This van is sold all over the world now. We had the Ford Econoline in the United States. Econoline died to make way for this van. There is nothing wrong with that. Ram has one, Mercedes Benz has one and Freightliner is sold here too. This is the nature of globalization. I have no issue with Transit. I see them at my job too. I know Volkswagen has one they do not sell in the United States. Hyundai has one too. It is not sold in the United States. GM used other brands to make the Opel and Vauxhall versions in Europe. I believe it was Renault who has a van too. The market is indeed changing. Thank you for the video and the review Ben.
There are a lot more Globally. Ford Transit is rare in Australia
Wish you would have driven the Transit on the same exact route you took with the Sprinter, with the tight left U turn; before returning.
Hard to beat the Sprinter's tight turning radius!
@@deanpulley6197curious which wheelbase, MB 144 vs Ford's 148? I read Ram is tightest turn but dont own either...
Very nice
is it available????
I been trying to order the transit trail can’t really even find a dealer that knows what I’m talking about
Still looking? Marchese Ford in New Lebanon NY has one. I looked at it today.
Is the engine longitudinal or transverse mount?
longitudinal
I don't trust any vehicle without a fold down cup holder.
A kidnapper van? My wife said.😂
How does diesel verses gas prices for MPG
How to change miror indicaitr
I'm not buying any of these soon, but what I wonder:
I will haul large body parts for trucks and cars and while I could use a trailer, an enclosed body like this is preferable. A box truck is too bulky.
Can this or the Sprinter haul something as large as a short bed pickup box? I'd have to see which one could do it. I've considered the Ram Promaster, but the 3.6 V6 is going to need constant attention. Sprinters have a reputation to overcome, but maybe they have. The Ford Transit AWD seems to be a good choice for us in the winter lands in the north.
Thanks!🤔
53" between wheel wells on single, dual is less room. 67" wide across the back width.
Im getting it for my business
If it's a new Ford it will have recalls before it lands at dealerships.
Does it have side steps or a ramp?
There is a low step inside the doors; the transit isn't nearly as high as a 4x4 sprinter, so I've found you don't really need a side step.
This isn’t any cheaper than a tall top, Sprinter 4 x 4
All things equal the Ford is usually $2k-$4k cheaper based on build & price on their website. Now that the Sprinter doesn't have a true 4x4, I don't know why you would choose one over the Transit.
TCO = Total cost of ownership is what matters most. Add in the fuel, service costs, repair parts, resale depreciation, etc.
Couple things: 1) Evan with the more off-road package the Transit ground clearance will probably be less, fact check that one I could be wrong. 2) the Sprinter fuel economy will be much better. Transit does haul ass, give you that.
My 2018 Transit is falling apart at 50k miles and Fort is not honoring the extended warranty. Junk! Don't let this guy con you.
You are very lucky it lasted 50 miles.nosing becomes a money PIT. SALUD.
I ordered a 2022 in November 2021, it was pushed to a 2023 order December 2022…still waiting for VIN#🥵…Eric did purchase a FORD ESP WARRANTY or a IN-HOUSE/DEALER WARRANTY?
So many negative comments. My biggest complaint isnt the van itself it is dealer greed. A Transit like this current via most dealers will see a $10k!!!!! markup. Loaded, not $60k but $70k.
A GLUT is coming so for those that can wait a few months these will be at MSRP or below by year's end. Can't wait to see what greedy dealers want for the Transit Trail - haha - $20k OVER????
That hasn't happened yet in 2024, the Trail still has a $7500 "market add up". If it has tech packages you will wait long and pay Msrp +, if asking why you'll have some young guy say ''its not for you". They will quickly blame union workers but not the greedy Executives and shareholders. Capitalism has no shame.
6:55 i thought the same thing 😅
if only most people could aford this
Slow down, sparky.
Mercedes make the best and most popular sprinter , this is just talk , I have a v6 diesel turbo 4x4 full size and just love it , after 2 year not on problem 😎
I’ve had mine over two years of city driving and haven’t had a single problem yet either
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath If you don't mind sharing brother how many pallets can that one fit at a time?
@@mr.standing4christ491 I never knew there was a standard pallet size. What is it?
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath Your joking right??? Asked the "wrong pope" the question maybe Francis might know let me check!!!
@@mr.standing4christ491 put up or shut up. What’s the standard size that you claim exists?
It need cdl license to drive?
No
I. Like to said something about ford products . good luck.SALUD.
The reason that Ford is a better choice. You nearly can NOT get decent service nor parts out of Mercedes if you're traveling around the country. I would NEVER buy a Mercedes for that reason alone. Having a van fixed up to live in in particular means you WILL be needing regular service. A built-in nightmare for a Mercedes owner.
Mercedes is # 1 because they don t break down, get with it and full 4x4 not all w drive 🤷🏻♂️
So not true … all vehicles have repairs. Mercedes Sprinters parts and repair faculties are few and far between and door rates are through the roof !! One of my drivers just had replace all of injectors (Diesel) over $4000 at 95,000 mi.. just sayin 😉
Curious if you are speaking from first hand experience. Mine includes 3 Sprinters over a 12 year period, two diagonal transcontinental trips per year, many 1,000 mile + runs in between. How, in particular, does a DIY buildout affect scheduled maintenance? Parts are a breeze from Amazon/eBay and (as with any vehicle) if you don't learn basic maintenance/repair, you are a victim. I did have a cooling system issue beyond my ability to repair in NW Texas on van #2 (thanks to a previous owner's inept tinkering,) but made it to Albuquerque fine to enjoy watching balloons launch for a couple of days before I was on the road again. Your experience may be different, but it would be helpful to know what experience you have had.
I was a Service consultant for 12 years for General Motors. I ran independent shop for two. In that time I’ve worked on every making model vehicle you can think of outside of the foreign exotics. I now own my own trucking authority (Since 2020) and we use exclusively cargo vans for our business. They are all Ford transit. My personal vehicle is a 2020 Ford transit which has 175,000 miles on it, it is all routine maintenance. It is only had one ignition module that has failed out at the cost of $400 parts and labor to put in at a Ford dealer..other than that the vehicle has been flawless and repair shops. A.k.a. Ford dealerships have a more centralized mapping across the country for repair Mercedes does not, Mercedes, however will overnight any parts necessary for repair but you will pay and you will pay dearly to do it. They do not release their programming information nor there scan tools for any type of independent shop to do the work so you were at the mercy of their dealership door rate.
@@chrishoefer3325thanks for this detail. 400 MB dealers vs 3000 Ford, then diesel vs gas i can get from anywhere, hp /torque was the final points that sold me.
I had to get a 2020. Wtf tht engines mad?!? This isn’t available in the uk
Can't buy one.. called my Ford dealership
I'll keep my GMC Savana, 20 grand less, same mileage, and I can tow a camper.
Based in the UK have always had transits for our business. A mark 5 then a mark 6 and finally the new mark 8 with the 2.2. Will never buy another ford the engines are too weak whos daft idea was it to use a wet belt system the cam belts runs in hot engine oil. They break and ford dont care. Have learnt our lesson with Fraud (ford) had a 1.0 ecoboost that destroyed its engine after the belt broke 74,000 milea and 7.5 years well inside ford timescale to replace. Rubbish egines in the UK and poor customer services.
that's to much? all you did was slide the locking latch and you got triggered lmao..
Who takes their van to the track. So why are you driving that way
S L O W D O W N when talking.
Click on settings-playback speed. It can be as fast or as slow as you need it. Most of us are fine with his talking.
$70,000.00 for a BASIC CARGO VAN? That's BULLSHIT!
It has every tech option made, most dont even know this tech exists in cargos...
Will the average consumer keep their Sprinter van for the life of the motor. No. So who cares if their motor will last 250k miles. You will be plagued with Mercedes electronic gremlins. Not worth it. Just get a Transit.
I see that and think of a class C
Talking so fast. Impossible to follow
If only he could speak faster.
Oh my god, not even a minute in our couldn’t understand a word this guy said talking way too fast
Here's a great idea: How about putting car wheels on the biggest, ugliest van possible!!! 🤣🤣🤣 and sell them all over the world 🤣🤣🤣 oh lemme guess, Ford Transit already does that 😂😂😂😂 .... it's all love though, function over beauty ❤
Ford Transits are not sold" all over the world" mainly UK and to a lesser extent in the rest of Europe
If you're looking for a cargo or passenger vehicle to satisfy your sex drive...youre heading for a heartache. But that's just me, I've never understood how some feel less of a man for smart transportation choices. Same happens in motorcycles- Harley buyers, but not with me.
Dam, if you could talk a little faster, the video would be shorter.
A simple answer. Hell no.
No
THis is BS. Ford has so many recalls that they can't fix I wouldn't buy one with someone else's money. There is a good chance it will sit for months waiting on repairs.
Like😊
Never
Poses a question....doesn't answer it. 👎
Ford Transit King Of Vans, mercedes good luck finding spare parts
Sprinter = high service, repair, and maintenance $$$ costs!
You talk too fast.
Why I won’t buy a Ford van, simply ugly.
What are you trying to do to your van? I found Beauty in a spouse not my work vehicle.
Are you kidding? If you want to spend half your travel time in the repair shop buy the MB otherwise stick with the Transit
Talk slower.
There's an option to slow down the video.
Great camper
Well, i work on transits and sprinters at the dealer. I can say, dont but transit. Buy sprinter. Waaaayyyyy more reliable, the new transit is the worst van ever!
It’s hideous. Engine power is nice.