Your video made me realize I should be using my Nido first for basic cooking/eating, and save the non-fat stuff for when there is nothing else one can buy or afford. Plus I got to thinking, if faced with powdered whole milk coming into its use by date. It would be a treat for all those hungry outside cats or even mixed with dry dog food to help them, instead of wasting it and having to throw it away.
Good for you! Check out the video on the powdered milk comparison oils. It gives the information on which source gives you the most bang for your buck.
Great job! I'm not even really looking for powdered milk for long term storage... Rather, taste comparisons. I watched the whole thing because of the valuable information you provided, most of which I didn't need but am now glad I know. Thank you!
Have you ever tried Hoosier Farm Milk powder? If so what did you think. I bought some an noticed it is only good until Oct of 2023, it is whole milk. I will be purchasing non fat milk from now on as I really want it for long term storage.
No I haven’t tried it. But no item with such high fat is good for long term storage, as you realize. Fat, in most forms, it subject to rancidity. Wheat does have some fat but as long as it’s locked in the germ, it is good indefinitely. You’re on the right track with nonfat dry milk for storage.
nice great job! I was hoping the carnation was going to win as that's what I considered buying. Kinda lame that didn't take any better than the cheap brands. but great analysis!
I would imagine that whole milk powder would last longer if vacuum sealed with oxygen absorbers. I had some on my shelf that took me 2 years to finish. But we noticed no significant change in flavor or quality by the time it was finished. So in a dry climate, the shelf life is much better than listed on the label. I had kept it in the can.
One question I've always wondered about with powdered milk, is how much milk does a pound of powder make? I'm not sure how much to store bcuz I'm not sure how the pounds line up with cups/gallons.
The best way to measure is to weigh the powder. Non instant milk is more compact so you will use less per serving if you're measuring with cups and tablespoons, but if you have a little kitchen scale, each serving of any type of powdered milk is about 1 oz. or 30 grams. 16 oz of milk powder will make a little less than a gallon. Of course some people mix it richer and some mix it thinner. SOOOO every pound of powder will make about a gallon. Great question!
Wow, love the relatively thorough testing methodology and Price comparisons! Would love to know if you've ever tried a non-instant whole milk powder added directly to hot tea/coffee. I'm looking to buy one but am worried it won't mix well compared to instant skin milk powder.
I have added the whole milk powder to hot cocoa, and it does take a little more stirring. ( I don't drink coffee and I don't like milk in my herbal tea) Non-instant milk powder mixes more readily with hot water than with cold. However, boiling hot water can congeal the milk powder so it won't mix. I recommend mixing the whole milk powder in within hot tap water and then adding it to your hot drinks. For hot cocoa, mix it with the dry cocoa mix before adding the water.
I don’t think that would make much difference. Sealing it with oxygen absorbers in glass would probably be maximum protection, but the fats will still decompose faster than the sugars and protein in non-fat milk. Adding layers of Mylar would not make any difference if it’s already stored in glass. One trick to consider is mixing the non-fat milk at a higher concentration for a richer flavor. You might try it and see what you think.
No, the whole milk comes sealed and has a date of about 6 months. I’ve had some whole milk powder in the covered can for about 18 months and it was still fine. The fat in the whole milk will cause it to go bad much faster than Fat free. I would expect it to last about three years if well sealed and with oxygen absorbers, It might go longer, but I wouldn’t risk it by keeping it longer. I recommend keeping no more than you can use in a year, and then use and replace it throughout the year.
Absolutely. I have done that myself. I used an oxygen packet in each mylar bag and then seal it. I used an iron because I didn't have my "seal a meal" sealer yet, but either would work, I suspect. ( Disclaimer: I've never actually tried sealing mylar bags with the seal-a-meal.) When I tested it after 10 years of storage it was still fine with no deterioration.
Is it possible to store whole milk powder in a mylar bag with silica gel packet and oxygen absorber and also make it last 20-30 years? I can't find the answer to this anywhere. May just have to experiment on my own.
No, whole milk powder will go rancid because of the fat. Even though rancidity is a function of oxidation, even the oxygen packets can’t absorb enough to prevent rancidity in a high fat food. The best by date is only about 6 months, so I would expect 2 years to be a reasonable expectation.
I bought the powdered milk at Winco Foods. As near as I can tell, Village Farm Powdered Milk is a product from the company named "Sturm foods," which is a subsidiary of Treehouse foods. Here is their website: www.treehousefoods.com/our-foods-and-beverages/beverages/default.aspx (I don't think you need anything after the .com for the address, but I left it all in. Happy Trails!!
About the same as other full fat powdered milk of any brand. 18 months according to the package. I would guess it could last as long as 3 years possibly. I've had some open for almost a year, and it's still fine. But the fat just doesn't store well, long term. If you have a strong preference for the whole milk, maybe you could use it regularly and replace it consistently so that you always have a year's supply. Thanks for the great question!
@@josephinasharp9202 Hi Josephina, In my video "Tasting very old food storage," the powdered milk was about 20 years old and still tasted fine. When stored right, it has a very long shelf life. Thanks for the comment!
@@BethsHappyHome I have a couple of unopened cans of Nido stored in my deep freeze at -10 Fahrenheit. Do you feel the freezer might extend the shelf life a year or so, longer?
hey just to note, nido nestle has 40% sugar so please be careful. My parents got diabetes due to that and the dr suggested not to have nido frequently since ity has high amounts of sugar. take care!
No, there's less than 2% added sugar in Nido milk powder. It is high fat like all whole milk which can contribute to obesity which can lead to diabetes. The label says it contains 10% of your daily value for total fat and 10% daily value for cholesterol and 4% of daily value of carbohydrates. 16% of daily value for protein. There is a lot of added sugar in Morning Moo, however. That's why I didn't include it in my sampling. It's a drink mix that contains milk powder but not interchangeable with powdered milk. Maybe that's what you are thinking of?
Q Most Americans are FAT. They don't stick to actual "serving" size They chug down like 5x the amount. 1 small cup is roughly 8 oz. I am willing to bet that they didn't ONLY have a small cup with a bowl of cereal. They probably had several times that. Some diabetes can be REVERSED by eating fresh unprocessed VEGETABLES. Clean fresh water. A squirt of lemon 🍋 for daily vitamin C. I know people who have cancer and will never admit that they went out to eat all the time at fancy restaurants and they got cancer cause of POOR DIET. Wow!!! Imagine if they CHOSE to eat healthy. They'll be healthy with a long life.
Note that all milk naturally contains lactose which is a sugar molecule. It's impossible to blame diabetes on one product. Obesity and poor diet, lack of exercise can be contributing factors, however.
Thank you for your analysis and valuable information!
God bless your heart!
You're welcome, and thank you!
Thank you for this video. This was the next thing I was going to try to figure out. You saved me quite a bit of leg work. Thanks again.
I’m so glad your getting well prepared!
Thanks so much
Yours so welcome. I hope you are thriving.
Your video made me realize I should be using my Nido first for basic cooking/eating, and save the non-fat stuff for when there is nothing else one can buy or afford. Plus I got to thinking, if faced with powdered whole milk coming into its use by date. It would be a treat for all those hungry outside cats or even mixed with dry dog food to help them, instead of wasting it and having to throw it away.
That’s a good thought!
Thank yu ,, I’m been preparing for over a year , I have some of this but want more , I’m shopping now ,
Good for you! Check out the video on the powdered milk comparison oils. It gives the information on which source gives you the most bang for your buck.
Great job! I'm not even really looking for powdered milk for long term storage... Rather, taste comparisons.
I watched the whole thing because of the valuable information you provided, most of which I didn't need but am now glad I know.
Thank you!
I'm glad it was useful. Powdered milk used to be bad, but now, it's convenient and tastes good. Thanks so much for commenting.
Have you ever tried Hoosier Farm Milk powder? If so what did you think. I bought some an noticed it is only good until Oct of 2023, it is whole milk. I will be purchasing non fat milk from now on as I really want it for long term storage.
No I haven’t tried it. But no item with such high fat is good for long term storage, as you realize. Fat, in most forms, it subject to rancidity. Wheat does have some fat but as long as it’s locked in the germ, it is good indefinitely. You’re on the right track with nonfat dry milk for storage.
nice great job! I was hoping the carnation was going to win as that's what I considered buying. Kinda lame that didn't take any better than the cheap brands. but great analysis!
Sorry! But I cannot tell a lie. 😂
Can you vacuum seal whole milk to make it last longer?
I would imagine that whole milk powder would last longer if vacuum sealed with oxygen absorbers. I had some on my shelf that took me 2 years to finish. But we noticed no significant change in flavor or quality by the time it was finished. So in a dry climate, the shelf life is much better than listed on the label. I had kept it in the can.
One question I've always wondered about with powdered milk, is how much milk does a pound of powder make? I'm not sure how much to store bcuz I'm not sure how the pounds line up with cups/gallons.
The best way to measure is to weigh the powder. Non instant milk is more compact so you will use less per serving if you're measuring with cups and tablespoons, but if you have a little kitchen scale, each serving of any type of powdered milk is about 1 oz. or 30 grams. 16 oz of milk powder will make a little less than a gallon. Of course some people mix it richer and some mix it thinner. SOOOO every pound of powder will make about a gallon. Great question!
Thank you ! Really helpful video.
You are welcome! Thank you for the comment.
Wow, love the relatively thorough testing methodology and Price comparisons! Would love to know if you've ever tried a non-instant whole milk powder added directly to hot tea/coffee. I'm looking to buy one but am worried it won't mix well compared to instant skin milk powder.
I have added the whole milk powder to hot cocoa, and it does take a little more stirring. ( I don't drink coffee and I don't like milk in my herbal tea) Non-instant milk powder mixes more readily with hot water than with cold. However, boiling hot water can congeal the milk powder so it won't mix. I recommend mixing the whole milk powder in within hot tap water and then adding it to your hot drinks. For hot cocoa, mix it with the dry cocoa mix before adding the water.
Could I vacuum seal powdered WHOLE milk in glass jars and store inside mylar in the freezer for extended shelf life? Thanks for a great video!
I don’t think that would make much difference. Sealing it with oxygen absorbers in glass would probably be maximum protection, but the fats will still decompose faster than the sugars and protein in non-fat milk.
Adding layers of Mylar would not make any difference if it’s already stored in glass. One trick to consider is mixing the non-fat milk at a higher concentration for a richer flavor. You might try it and see what you think.
Will wholemilk powder last for 10+ years if you vacuum and remove any oxygen while putting it in a mylar bag?
No, the whole milk comes sealed and has a date of about 6 months. I’ve had some whole milk powder in the covered can for about 18 months and it was still fine. The fat in the whole milk will cause it to go bad much faster than Fat free. I would expect it to last about three years if well sealed and with oxygen absorbers, It might go longer, but I wouldn’t risk it by keeping it longer. I recommend keeping no more than you can use in a year, and then use and replace it throughout the year.
The big bag of Sturm couldn't you buy that and then immediately put it in mylar bags for long term Thanks for all the great info.
Absolutely. I have done that myself. I used an oxygen packet in each mylar bag and then seal it. I used an iron because I didn't have my "seal a meal" sealer yet, but either would work, I suspect. ( Disclaimer: I've never actually tried sealing mylar bags with the seal-a-meal.) When I tested it after 10 years of storage it was still fine with no deterioration.
@@BethsHappyHome Awesome Thank you.
Is it possible to store whole milk powder in a mylar bag with silica gel packet and oxygen absorber and also make it last 20-30 years? I can't find the answer to this anywhere. May just have to experiment on my own.
No, whole milk powder will go rancid because of the fat. Even though rancidity is a function of oxidation, even the oxygen packets can’t absorb enough to prevent rancidity in a high fat food. The best by date is only about 6 months, so I would expect 2 years to be a reasonable expectation.
@@BethsHappyHome Okay, good to know! I will just get mostly non-fat then. Thank you so much!
Really nice video ... I would like the village farm web site please thanks
I bought the powdered milk at Winco Foods. As near as I can tell, Village Farm Powdered Milk is a product from the company named "Sturm foods," which is a subsidiary of Treehouse foods. Here is their website: www.treehousefoods.com/our-foods-and-beverages/beverages/default.aspx (I don't think you need anything after the .com for the address, but I left it all in. Happy Trails!!
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You're so welcome!
Please list links or websites you could get these at
Redwoodsgal, I added the link that isn't just a grocery store.
How long would the Nido last if vacuum sealed for long term?
About the same as other full fat powdered milk of any brand. 18 months according to the package. I would guess it could last as long as 3 years possibly. I've had some open for almost a year, and it's still fine. But the fat just doesn't store well, long term. If you have a strong preference for the whole milk, maybe you could use it regularly and replace it consistently so that you always have a year's supply. Thanks for the great question!
I’ve heard people drank some five years expired and tasted the same
@@josephinasharp9202 Hi Josephina, In my video "Tasting very old food storage," the powdered milk was about 20 years old and still tasted fine. When stored right, it has a very long shelf life. Thanks for the comment!
@@BethsHappyHome I have a couple of unopened cans of Nido stored in my deep freeze at -10 Fahrenheit. Do you feel the freezer might extend the shelf life a year or so, longer?
@@StacyM723 I'm sure freezing would extend the shelf life significantly. Probably much longer than a year.
Nido is my favorite
I love Nido too. It’s whole milk so it tastes rich. Unfortunately it’s high fat which gives it a much shorter shelf life.
hey just to note, nido nestle has 40% sugar so please be careful. My parents got diabetes due to that and the dr suggested not to have nido frequently since ity has high amounts of sugar. take care!
No, there's less than 2% added sugar in Nido milk powder. It is high fat like all whole milk which can contribute to obesity which can lead to diabetes. The label says it contains 10% of your daily value for total fat and 10% daily value for cholesterol and 4% of daily value of carbohydrates. 16% of daily value for protein.
There is a lot of added sugar in Morning Moo, however. That's why I didn't include it in my sampling. It's a drink mix that contains milk powder but not interchangeable with powdered milk. Maybe that's what you are thinking of?
Q
Most Americans are FAT.
They don't stick to actual "serving" size
They chug down like 5x the amount.
1 small cup is roughly 8 oz. I am willing to bet that they didn't ONLY have a small cup with a bowl of cereal. They probably had several times that.
Some diabetes can be REVERSED by eating fresh unprocessed VEGETABLES. Clean fresh water. A squirt of lemon 🍋 for daily vitamin C.
I know people who have cancer and will never admit that they went out to eat all the time at fancy restaurants and they got cancer cause of POOR DIET. Wow!!! Imagine if they CHOSE to eat healthy. They'll be healthy with a long life.
Note that all milk naturally contains lactose which is a sugar molecule. It's impossible to blame diabetes on one product. Obesity and poor diet, lack of exercise can be contributing factors, however.
The poor man don’t care, he just wants his milk cold 😂
Hahaha! I even like it warm!