@@stevencamacho6474 of course they are using their parents money. either way why are we splitting hairs like this? Exploitation is harmful to the individual.
Same problem with claw games. Usually the claw slips off, making you think it was close. I believe the claw rarely grabs strong enough to pick up anything.
Yes claw games are totally rigged,you can set the tension on the claws but most arcade owners always set it too light so it can't grab and hold anything.
I read somewhere that there are laws due to taxes etc on prices that the machined wont release prices before the market value of that item has been reached . Its hard for me to ecplain exactly but tey and look it up. In conclusion yes its rigged
It's programmed to increase strength based on the number of losses. Some even have a literal number it counts to before significantly increasing it's grip strength..
My Dad wasn’t an engineer, but he always told us these games (and carny games) were rigged and a rip off. He told us he’d rather we just go to the toy store and buy a nice quality toy! You just proved him 100% right,70 years later. Thanks for a great lesson!
He's not cheating, he's using skill. It just so happens that his skill is engineering and using his mind to overcome problems. It would be like saying Iron Man isn't a superhero because the real power is in the suit, and the suit just does everything for him, even though he's the one who built the suit.
@@JokeCubed I guess, but that’s like saying I’m good at chess if I beat up the people I’m playing until they concede. My skill just happens to be violence, but that doesn’t necessarily make me good at chess
I used to work in an arcade and had one of these things in it. Winning percentages are tracked weekly with the goal of paying out 25 percent in prizes of the revenue those games brought in. I had to track ticket payouts weekly and adjust. The older ones we had to adjust mechanically, but I loved these ones because it was just a matter of changing a setting on the logic board.
He'll have got permission to film in there. I used to work in an arcade, and trust me, they have cameras all over the place. They know EXACTLY what you're doing even if you think they don't.
I noticed this too when I would try this. I would always be one behind or one ahead. Had no evidence to suggest it was rigged, but this was so consistent for me it made me question if I was being scammed or not.
I used to work at an arcade with these exact machines. they are 100% rigged. we could set the machines to pay out after X amount was put through them and my manager used to play the machines when they were getting close to paying out because if he won it, it would save the store money. I used to know all the tricks to them as well, but can confirm ... 100% rigged.
This guy is literally one of the most wholesome, awesome, entertaining, original, and overall amazing TH-camr I’ve ever come across on this website. Love your stuff. Keep up the good work!
There isn’t anything on the arcade game that claims that when the button is clicked the light will stop at the time clicked the button. If this did go to court that would be all the arcade needs to say and they would not be fined. Because deception is legal
Problem is, so far its been successfully argued that it isn't gambling due to the use of tokens, combined with the fact you don't win any money, only items from the front desk.
As a former arcade tech (albeit 20 years ago) I can confirm Cyclone can be set to payout jackpots at variable intervals and also people would stand there with a cup of tokens and just keep plunking them in. Cyclone was one of our top 3 ticket games for my entire 2 years at the arcade and I'm not surprised it still exists to this day. For the record, MOST of our non-skill based (ie not skeeball or basketball) redemption games from that time period had ways of being set to payout jackpots variably.
I worked at an arcade for 5 years. A lot of the games are rigged. It obviously depends on the game, but many of them have options where you can set the payout rate. Games like Cyclone, Stacker, Keymaster, etc. Stacker and Keymaster, where you put in a very expensive prize to draw people in (Xbox, PS4, Beats, etc.), we would set a 1/1000 payout rate. So we'd always be guaranteed to make money on it. My boss even told one of my coworkers before we opened for the day, to play Stacker until he wins. He literally played the game for 1.5 hours straight, won the game, so it reset the payout, so we wouldn't have to give out a prize for another month or whatever. Arcades are scams, simple as that. I honestly thought it was just common knowledge though, I'm surprised everybody doesn't know this.
Firelord Azula I worked in arcades and routes for more than 20 years. You manager didn't know the game very well. The play count can be reset in a menu in less than 30 seconds. He was also a fool because players notice that nothing ever gets won and they stop playing it. Games that people see a win on get played more. It's a case of giving up some money to make a lot more.
Rob Yagenmyer I'm not surprised you won. It must have been an operator that understood what it takes to keep people coming back to play it again (Or one that knows they may have to show the local police the game history and prove it's not being reset all the time)
Vending tech here, can confirm this. The high traffic places get the shaft on jackpot payout. Your best bet is the low traffic places where the game is less played but the odds are better in your favor. Word spreads quickly when a game has dished out a jackpot in say, a bowling alley.
These machines used to have a glitch where you could hold the button down, unplug and plug it back in and it would spit out 150 tickets :) That was back in the 90's, i'm sure they've addressed that by now, but in my youth we definitely cleaned a few of these out....
I had come to the same conclusion about these (and similar games) years ago by using a highspeed camera and recording myself playing it over and over, only to examine the footage and find that there was no correlation to when I pushed the button vs. where the light would stop.
To be fair, an arcade is basically a casino for kids. They spend money playing games to try to win jackpots of winnings. And as Mark proves here in an arcade, just like a casino, the house always wins.
You have now figured out literally every kids game, carnival game, those things in stores that give random toys, video game lootboxes... Wait it's almost like people figured out that kids with undeveloped minds can be easily manipulated to drain their money
Also trading card games, when I was a kid I used to open packs of Pokémon cards and the guy at the till would buy any rare cards for cash ... making them essentially scratch cards.
It's so crazy. After you adding the information I had for years, namely him being one of the kids recurring in quite a few of your videos and you having a son, together, I just now realise in how many videos your son is/was having a cameo of some sorts. 😂
I thought he brought kids in as a decoy but further in and as he explains what he's doing, feels more like a deadweight. They were bound to attract some attention from the get go.
I'm surprised that arcades aren't required to post odds of winning games. Casinos usually are. And I think that games like this, that APPEAR to be games of skill, but are ACTUALLY games of chance, should be illegal.
Honestly i’m only 12 but I already know about this kind of stuff I’ve seen that I’ve only gotten one off but its just a near miss effect but I still keep playing because I think I can get it the next round until I finally realize that it’s not worth it and just MoveOn
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Rami Kadri VSAUCE is more general from what I’ve seen. This guy used specific measurements and specific science to test out and prove a hypothesis in a very complete way. He also built the device used in to test and prove his hypothesis. Dude... he should join Lockheed Martin.
I remember I won those games, but only twice in all my years of being on this planet. Claw machines are a different story. I have a somewhat agreeable liking/absolute hatred towards them.
Why are they cheaters for liking the video? They could just enjoy watching the process of revealing a scammed game. If this was meant as a joke then just ignore this reply because in no means am I trying to offend you or anyone else.
I worked as a carny , for a very short period of time. They let me go, and I was happy for that. I had to sleep at night . If you want to enjoy yourself at the State Fair , just sit at the _I Got It_ tent. Grab a beer and a sausage sandwich and get out of the sun or rain for awhile.
A carny is someone who works the booths, games etc at fairs . Games of chance, such as this, are very much rigged in favor of the owners of them at these fairs If you have a conscience , meaning sleep at night, you most likely will not do well as a carny. If you want to enjoy yourself, meaning not lose , then play a game called *I Got It* It's a game where someone will win each time. It's located on the midways, and generally under a tent with seats. Grab a beer and a sandwich , or whatever, and just sit back and enjoy. They let me go from my job as a carny , for I gave away a couple of the big prizes that are rigged . The big ones are rarely won. I was basically stealing money from 13 year old kids. It bothered me. So I gave a couple away. F**k Um
You've been to a fair most likely . You've played the games of chance most likely too. The thread here is, " I've was always bad at these games " . My comment sheds a very brief , in agreeance . along with personal experience , reason why LTazze was bad at these games. The reason being , *there're rigged* . I was a carny . If you don't know what one is, here's a link to explain . Carny=Carnival worker ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carny BTW . A great upload like this now has *79* dislikes. The averages a excellent though. If you want to have fun at the fair, or other places that have games like this, don't blow your money on them. Play something that you can enjoy, sit and relax . Have you ever played I Got It ?
Some games have an adjustable difficulty setting rather than a payout rate; at the highest level you'd really need to hit the button within 1/12th of a hummingbird wing flap!
Its not level if youre set up to win every time and hit the maximum amount of allowable jackpots though. Plus you cant cheat when its your own rules. People can not play it though.
I hate those tickets machines for two reasons: 1) They are gambling machines for kids 2) They replace games in the arcades and most people prefer them to some good old videogames
I used to work with Chuck E Cheese. Our maintenance guy decided that he wanted to increase the number of jackpots for a day. It was an interesting day for sure.
@@aceman0000099 It was a long time ago. If i remember right, he also lowered the amount you won so it didn't get to out of control. But it didn't change much because no one with sense trusts the game and/or didn't want to play a game that only lasts for a second.
People expect it to not be rigged, because they imagine it would be illegal, then. Actually, I imagine that to be illegal as well, I wonder how it isn't.
I remember getting the jackpot on my first try. Afterwards I kept getting the lights next to the jackpot, so I figured out pretty quickly that it was rigged.
@FrictionP you know those slot machines with those 777 like things to win, its already programmed where they will stop before you even push the button (or pull lever)
I don't know why the us government usually outlaws casinos but let places like Chuck E. Cheeses exist. It's gambling. But instead of winning money. You win worthless toys
Willis some. The basket ball games and other skill based don't give tickets at all. There are very few ticket games that are at least somewhat skill based.
Ultra Bolt that would be hard because the coins aren’t positioned in the exact sport for every game, which makes the outcome rather sometimes unpredictable
@@Dodger24 The insides of the basic coin pusher are actually really simple. In a very basic coin pusher, it's just a motor with a rotating arm that helps bring the pusher element backwards and forwards.
worked in a bowling alley in high school, the winnability can be set for literally anything even the claw machines, where the grip strength is only strong enough every few plays
Me: "No it's not cheating, it's experimenting the…mechanics of the game… and the science of…uh…chance." Kids: "Oh that makes sense." But I did have to cheat to see if it's a scam.
From what people have said, winning at casinos can get you kicked. They allow you to get normal amounts of money, but winning too much is bad to them because they want to keep all of their money. At least that's what I've heard.
I never understand all the thumbs down on every video. I've maybe thumbed down 4 video in my life time of watching hundreds. What kind of person goes around thumbing down videos unless they are paid by you tube to do so.
I don't even need to watch the video. These games are programmed to pay out after a certain amount of money is put into it so the gain outweighs the loss. That's how most, if not all reward based arcade games work. Anyone who has worked at an arcade automatically knows significantly more than you do in this case.
It's exactly like slots. They're pre programmed to pay out a certain amount on a variable schedule. Welcome to the Skinner box of gambling: kids edition
This proves my theory correct! The other day I was at an arcade that was about to close, and I noticed a bunch of employees walking around with buckets of tokens, playing each game until it got a jackpot. This confirms that they were “resetting” the jackpot odds to be as low as possible for maximum profit. Shady!
They don't have to do that. The games are resettable and configurable. Vox had a video detailing the claw game, and they have a formula where you input the price of the prizes, price of the machine, and how much you want them to pay for the prize, and it figures out the "1 in XXX" chance it should apply full power to the claw. And the rest of the time you get a wimpy claw.
While that's true, what chantz is saying just allows the arcade to maximize profits while keeping the odds at a preset level (which at least sometimes set by law). Lets say you set the odds at 1/100 will win and 299 people play from a fresh slate, you will get two winners for the day the 100th player and the 200th player. the next day if you have the same numbers of players you will have 3 winners, the 1st, 101st, and 201st. For 99 days straight (assuming the same number of players each day) you will give 3 prizes a day for a total of 1091 winners. On the other hand by having employees get the jack pot at the end of the day, each day will only have 2 winners for 730 winners for the year. That's a third less prizes being won despite the odds being the same (which again i believe are legally set in some places.)
Resting it might require you to reprogram (especially if it's an older machine) and as I mentioned earlier the odds depending on you location may be set by law which means that they can't be set to lower odds of winning.
That's not how "odds" work. "Resetting" the machine will only work IF the machine gives out prizes on every XXXth try, it does NOTHING if you have a 1/XXX CHANCE of winning.
Those games have settings that basically say "Let someone win every XX games". I used to manage arcades and got to see some of the settings in the games. In a weird way, games of true chance like Colorama are the biggest payers. Its a ball in a spinning bowl, kind of like Roulette, so theres not really any way to rig it. I started typing this comment before I reached the end, I just saw the manual shot and had to laugh as I basically nailed the wording. I'd get kids/parents complaining all the time "I hit it when the light was on and it just moved over!" The smartest way to play it is to watch a couple of 8 year old suckers lose all of their money, then swoop in and play a few rounds and you'll likely win. I'd argue the real scam in arcades is the fact that you'll spend up to $100 to win something worth $3-$5 and leave like you're on top of the world. Those prizes, especially the lower end prizes, come on a massive pallet from China. If you look closely at some of the higher end prizes, they're typically toys with slight defects that couldnt be sold in stores or its just stuff that was not selling so it gets a huge ticket price slapped on it and is some how sold at 1000% of its worth. Arcades are too far gone now. At least in the 80s-90s you could go in, learn a non-redemption game and be able to play for 10 minutes on one credit. Mortal Kombat is an example, if you were good, you could pay once and play it to the end. I could go to my local arcade with $10 (which was huge in the 90s as a kid) and play for 2 hours. Now even the games that don't pay tickets are hugely over priced, designed like the ticket games, they basically have a set amount of time you're going to play for your $1+ buy in and thats it. Skill no longer means anything to those games. I refuse to even bother playing in most arcades now unless its a retro arcade with some reasonable games in it.
Gacha digital games (usually mobile, though there several P2P ones like Star Wars BattleFront 2) completely cut out the China middleman and give out digital prizes with no monetary value at all. On one hand, these probably are the main causes of Arcade Death, on the other hand, it's a good thing they're being investigated for being practically gambling for kids...
There's a arcade near me that you pay a cover charge of 15 dollars and you can literally play all day. Like you can come in at open and leave and return as much as you want all day and play any games in there. To me, that's worth it.
Thing is, you're also paying for the fun, and that's something most mega-arcade patrons understand. I don't think anybody is under the illusion that they're going to "Win big" and give the redemption booth a run for their money. At least in a casino that's technically possible, though statistically unlikely. In a kid's arcade, the kids legitimately enjoy the games and adults see that as part of the money spent. It's the experience. Whereas most serial casino-goers are going in for a payout, which is downright foolish.
This is a lot like the arcade crane games, right? They only deliver enough force to actually pick up an item once in awhile, which is why you lose most of the time.
It depends on the crane game. The one's with e-claw or e-laut are all payout based. Basically the ones with more expensive prizes. The ones that you find in Wal-Mart's and sometimes machines with cheaper prizes are actually skill based but you still have the owner set the strength of the claw and it can still be very hard. There are also other factors like if the prize is too big or too small for the claw.
K & G Claws and Games so to clarify what I thought you said, the newer crane machines are preset to win a game when it hits a certain number of tries, but in a classic crane machine, the claw strength is what can be altered in order to win? Aside from the prize itself's aspect like size and weight [does my wording make sense?]
Yes you are pretty much correct. Some of the older machines can be set to payout also that has been programmable since the mid 70's. And newer machines do have the option of just being a skill based game. It really just depends on the operator and what the prizes are. So just assume the more expensive the prize the more the higher the payout. The operator on newer machines can also set multiple "payouts" so for the first 20 plays the claw will be very weak, the next 20 could be only if you are really good/lucky and then have the machine keep getting stronger after so many plays again. Some of the rigged claws are also set up to have enough strength to lift the prize then drop it so you have to watch for those again. If you see a claw machine with say Yeti mugs or purses nicely arranged and they look easy to get that is definitely a payout and even if you lift the prize if it is dropped immediately payout hasn't been hit. Even on skill based it is up to the operator how easy it is to win. We have a lot of videos on Wal-Mart claw machines where you see us lose even though a prize is open and easily gettable but then we also have a series from last valentines day where we completely cleaned out a claw machine of over 50 toys because the claw operator set it so strong it was pretty much a winner every time.Sorry for the long winded explanation.
Once I got a squirtle in a claw machine game and when it grabbed the squirtle it tried to let go but it was snagged in a way where it wouldn’t fall until the actual release.
It's pretty common knowledge at this point, but almost all Prize Cranes work the same way; they're programmed to not actually grip the prizes the majority of times. It's a wonder this sort of thing is even legal, since it's literally Gambling marketed to children, but I guess they must get off on the loop-hole of only offering toys and tickets as prizes... kinda like how Pachinko parlors bypass Japan's gambling laws.
Really? When I was younger I used to just go to the crane games, pick the five toys I like the most, win them. And then run away from security when they assumed I cheated. It was really fun, tho my dad hated it cuz he always lost.
If you watch in 0.25 speed. The bonus light sometimes doesn’t even light up.
That's so true
Cooper M. 2:05
Could just be the frames idk?
it lights up on the bottom one rather than the top one
OMG I checked and that's true
I love how gambling is illegal/regulated all over the country. but we allow deceptive fixed gambling to children unregulated.
it's called surprise mechnics
@@heroslippy6666 clever marketing right. as long as its addictive and costs money.
it would be gambling if the kids werent using their parents money
@@heroslippy6666 and yet its not surprising because companies have been doing it for years.
@@stevencamacho6474 of course they are using their parents money. either way why are we splitting hairs like this? Exploitation is harmful to the individual.
"You're cheating!"
"Not really.. I'm using an advantage I created myself."
*phrase stolen*
Chas Duran only real engineers will understand this
He wasn't cheating he was testing....
He's not cheating because the game itself cheats.
It's not cheating, it's reducing the possible variables to none.
As an author of video game hacks, I strongly identify with this. If he's got technical skills giving an advantage, fair game as long as it's his work
Same problem with claw games. Usually the claw slips off, making you think it was close. I believe the claw rarely grabs strong enough to pick up anything.
Yes claw games are totally rigged,you can set the tension on the claws but most arcade owners always set it too light so it can't grab and hold anything.
Heard they are rigged to only grip tight after a certain amount of games played.
I read somewhere that there are laws due to taxes etc on prices that the machined wont release prices before the market value of that item has been reached . Its hard for me to ecplain exactly but tey and look it up. In conclusion yes its rigged
It's programmed to increase strength based on the number of losses. Some even have a literal number it counts to before significantly increasing it's grip strength..
Yeah, I only won once, and that was because the claw snagged on the toy's material!
My Dad wasn’t an engineer, but he always told us these games (and carny games) were rigged and a rip off. He told us he’d rather we just go to the toy store and buy a nice quality toy! You just proved him 100% right,70 years later. Thanks for a great lesson!
So you’re like 80 or something
Ur 80? Lmao
@@seal5522 😂😂
80 year olds can have toys too and that’s ok
Rigged? Or just random and inconsistent? Dont think any arcade or carnival games claim consistency to begin with
These kids say “he’s cheating” but they don’t know he’s bringing justice to them all
He's not cheating, he's using skill. It just so happens that his skill is engineering and using his mind to overcome problems. It would be like saying Iron Man isn't a superhero because the real power is in the suit, and the suit just does everything for him, even though he's the one who built the suit.
some are dependant on machines so much that they will defend them with their lives. The matrix.
@@JokeCubed I guess, but that’s like saying I’m good at chess if I beat up the people I’m playing until they concede. My skill just happens to be violence, but that doesn’t necessarily make me good at chess
@@JokeCubed that’s the exact same as when people “it’s not ben, it’s the omnitrix”
@@JokeCubed r/woooooooosh
Kid: "You're cheating!"
Well it's fine because the game is cheating too.
MiiTRI aghahahahaha
They cheat the cheater who cheat them????? Ummmm
_I don’t get it?_
Cheating double negative.
XD
I used to work in an arcade and had one of these things in it. Winning percentages are tracked weekly with the goal of paying out 25 percent in prizes of the revenue those games brought in. I had to track ticket payouts weekly and adjust. The older ones we had to adjust mechanically, but I loved these ones because it was just a matter of changing a setting on the logic board.
Kids:"You're cheating"
*_Well yes but actually no_*
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"You're cheating!"
*Never rob a bank w this kid*
What about the monopoly bank?
I... wasn't planning to
Mark Robber
"YOU'RE ROBBING A BANK"
Michael Roy sure you weren’t
I love how Mark is standing in the middle of the arcade recording a video out loud about how the arcade is rigged Mark you're a legend.
He'll have got permission to film in there. I used to work in an arcade, and trust me, they have cameras all over the place. They know EXACTLY what you're doing even if you think they don't.
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@@alee_enn so, like.. What'd you get caught doing?
@@andrewhood4640 I wasn't doing anything, or not anything to get fired for if that's what you're implying.
@@alee_enn Arcades are a dying industry sadly
I noticed this too when I would try this. I would always be one behind or one ahead. Had no evidence to suggest it was rigged, but this was so consistent for me it made me question if I was being scammed or not.
same, always within 1 of the jackpot but never won it.
I used to work at an arcade with these exact machines. they are 100% rigged. we could set the machines to pay out after X amount was put through them and my manager used to play the machines when they were getting close to paying out because if he won it, it would save the store money. I used to know all the tricks to them as well, but can confirm ... 100% rigged.
@@dragonstooth4223 Oh that’s fucked up lmao
@@CrystalRose1111 they say a fool and his money are easily parted ... but I guess as long as you had fun it was worth it lol
It kept you out of the rain though, and helped the owner save for his rainy days.
cheating at an arcade game to find out the arcade game is cheating
*Spiderman pointing at Spiderman*
In Soviet Russia, game cheats you
@@KairosVA in soviet russia, you cheat you
Godlike Necromancer I used the stones to destroy the stones
yes im 1K like (real)
I knew it. Screw that game.
True
I cried as a kid when I lost...😭
www.GPcarAudio.com I won at that once as a kid.
Look at me
Not for you
This guy is literally one of the most wholesome, awesome, entertaining, original, and overall amazing TH-camr I’ve ever come across on this website. Love your stuff. Keep up the good work!
Conor Aguilar lol what about logan
Mike Rotch Logan he is terrible he filmed a fricked dead guy
AdamThorne it was a joke chill
IKR! @Conor Aguilar
Mike Rotch it wasn't a joke that guy was acualy dead I'm probobly Logan's biggest follower I haven't missed a blog in over a year
"Cheating's a strong word.....I'm using an advantage I created for myself!"
I love it!!!
I don’t blame him doing that!
"You're cheating!"
Arcade Owner: "Yeah, You're cheating!"
"...seriously?"
@Bill Gates r/woooosh
Pulls out 25 year old manual an 6 months of research.
Bill nye the science guy
@@Buratoy r/woooosh
DamageMaximo r/woooosh
My wife was right, I shouldn’t have wasted so much money on that game.
What's Inside? Yep haha
What's Inside? Haha
What's Inside? Lol wat inside this video
i remember you before you had 100k subs. now look at you.
Bruh
Imagine every arcade has a wanted sign for him dead or alive
I have seen wanted sign for you :)
@@adrianakuzmikova1697 🕴
Prize is 80 tickets
mrbaseball 345 I made it 1k likes
Vaki Smithy No prize is *tHe tIcKeT bLaStER!!!111*
As Qxir once said, any business built upon giving away money, can’t be fair
Depends how you define fair.
Equal odds for both parties? No.
Fair in the sense that the risk is worth the reward? To some people.
“I’m not cheating, I’m using a strong advantage”
I’m gonna use that line next time I cheat
Please don’t
@@neuratlas I bet your the type of person to not cheat 🤢🤮
Yes
@Rose Hensley now you can like to get it from 167 to 169
the arcade cheats, why shouldn't you? especially since in this case, it literally makes no difference
"Cheating is a strong word."
Thats what cheaters say.
Ryan Corrigan *cheater* is a strong word...
That's research , NOT cheating 😎👍
Will Winn
My brudda I see ur a man of culture
lol I made it your 1000th like your welcome
Hey, I always see you on Reclaimer's videos.
This sounds like the start of a huge lawsuit especially since these games are designed for children.
The fact that these machines are rigged is widespread knowledge. It's been known for decades.
@@yohiyoyo1 does that make it ok?
@@informitas0117 It makes it unlikely for anything to happen.
There isn’t anything on the arcade game that claims that when the button is clicked the light will stop at the time clicked the button. If this did go to court that would be all the arcade needs to say and they would not be fined. Because deception is legal
Problem is, so far its been successfully argued that it isn't gambling due to the use of tokens, combined with the fact you don't win any money, only items from the front desk.
I have no clue how that’s legal.
Can it really be called cheating if the game is already rigged against you?
*Top 10 questions science still can't answer*
yes. :/
random films just like if you lost all the time
It would be like saying it's cheating to use a robot to pull the lever on a fruit machine, let's be honest.
If it’s rigged I’d call it outsmarting
Arcade logic:
-arcades can be rigged and make you lose
-not allowed to cheat to win
You have to teach kids how to gamble early
Here, have 420 likes
Same premise on which casino owners made millions
*gets banned from all carnivals and arcades*
Why? The house is still winning. :P
you would have to do something like unscrew the machine or rob the place to get banned.
Ewan Taylor no if he keeps spilling all the rigged games secrets they won't let him in 😂
he's going to make this in minecraft next
Also all Chuck E Cheeses.
Wasnt there an episode of Monk where he got banned from a casino for Card Counting?
As a former arcade tech (albeit 20 years ago) I can confirm Cyclone can be set to payout jackpots at variable intervals and also people would stand there with a cup of tokens and just keep plunking them in. Cyclone was one of our top 3 ticket games for my entire 2 years at the arcade and I'm not surprised it still exists to this day. For the record, MOST of our non-skill based (ie not skeeball or basketball) redemption games from that time period had ways of being set to payout jackpots variably.
Me: *cheats on arcade games*
Arcade games: *pulls out an uno reverse card*
Not much really coins being pushed till they get to the edge
Put the knife *down*
@@jerry6893 lol your amazing
Undead Gizmo thx :3
@@jerry6893 😉
I worked at an arcade for 5 years. A lot of the games are rigged. It obviously depends on the game, but many of them have options where you can set the payout rate. Games like Cyclone, Stacker, Keymaster, etc. Stacker and Keymaster, where you put in a very expensive prize to draw people in (Xbox, PS4, Beats, etc.), we would set a 1/1000 payout rate. So we'd always be guaranteed to make money on it. My boss even told one of my coworkers before we opened for the day, to play Stacker until he wins. He literally played the game for 1.5 hours straight, won the game, so it reset the payout, so we wouldn't have to give out a prize for another month or whatever.
Arcades are scams, simple as that. I honestly thought it was just common knowledge though, I'm surprised everybody doesn't know this.
Firelord Azula I worked in arcades and routes for more than 20 years. You manager didn't know the game very well. The play count can be reset in a menu in less than 30 seconds. He was also a fool because players notice that nothing ever gets won and they stop playing it. Games that people see a win on get played more. It's a case of giving up some money to make a lot more.
Rob Yagenmyer I'm not surprised you won. It must have been an operator that understood what it takes to keep people coming back to play it again (Or one that knows they may have to show the local police the game history and prove it's not being reset all the time)
Vending tech here, can confirm this. The high traffic places get the shaft on jackpot payout. Your best bet is the low traffic places where the game is less played but the odds are better in your favor.
Word spreads quickly when a game has dished out a jackpot in say, a bowling alley.
Aww dammit no wonder the final block never worked
Some machines are loaned and you don't get to change anything, so you need people to play it endlessly to reset.
This is the epitome of the “Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man” meme
Cheating at a game only to realize that the game is cheating
BRUH XD LMFAO
It is hard when the "secrets" gets unveiled. Dont cry :-)
1k liker :)
It cheating get for the sake of revealing the other side's cheating
What’s epitome?
These machines used to have a glitch where you could hold the button down, unplug and plug it back in and it would spit out 150 tickets :) That was back in the 90's, i'm sure they've addressed that by now, but in my youth we definitely cleaned a few of these out....
It’s not cheating
The game is a “test of skill”; he’s just making use of *his* skills
True dat...
True.
It is a test of capacity of reaction and speed skills, not engineering, programing and creativity skills :P
But even if you have skills and hit the button when the light is in the right spot...it doesn't mean you win...it's not test of skill
👏🏼 Bravo 👌
He defines the phrase: “cool uncle”
Yeah he really does
Ya your right
Yeah he does. Literally in the urban dictionary
Yes
Es correcto
I had come to the same conclusion about these (and similar games) years ago by using a highspeed camera and recording myself playing it over and over, only to examine the footage and find that there was no correlation to when I pushed the button vs. where the light would stop.
Wow, that's even worse than I thought
I did the same using my ultra instinct. No joke
Can't wait till you make "How Cyclone arcade works" series:)
Fancy seeing you here
Yup.... I saw the light go past the jackpot when hitting the storm stopper and then go back to the preceding bulb before the jackpot .
To be fair, an arcade is basically a casino for kids. They spend money playing games to try to win jackpots of winnings. And as Mark proves here in an arcade, just like a casino, the house always wins.
That's Chuck E Cheese for you. They make a ton of money off arcade games and pizza with a little bit of beer to go with it.
Are you not entertained
Never trust an arcade games that’s completely electronic. Source: worked at an arcade for 6 summers in my teens.
YES! Doesn't rely on the laws of chance or physics but on the PROGRAM.
@@jamesmartin7282 common sense
Lol my gramps agrees with you hahaha
@@jamesmartin7282 you can edit the code but you can’t edit physics... yet
You mean dont assume that they are consistent*
So gambling is illegal for kids to participate in, but arcade games that work on gambling principles are just fine??
You have now figured out literally every kids game, carnival game, those things in stores that give random toys, video game lootboxes...
Wait it's almost like people figured out that kids with undeveloped minds can be easily manipulated to drain their money
Also trading card games, when I was a kid I used to open packs of Pokémon cards and the guy at the till would buy any rare cards for cash ... making them essentially scratch cards.
Its because your not recieving legal tender. Ur buying tickets to get prizes. And playing a game to get it. Still its gambling and kids spend alot.
"Yes."
@@reaven2535 I will have to disagree with you on that. You don't win money in arcade games and Loot Boxes are more like raffle tickets.
I’m amazed that a grown man spent hours in Chuck-E Cheese for months in a row, and no one was suspicious.
Probably don't get many guests
@@jaredpatterson1701 They definitely did back then as coronavirus was yet to be heard of.
They probably saw the filming and recognized
@@viktornapolitano6113 A grown man creeping around places where kids tend to go doesn't get less creepy by the fact he's filming all the time
@@danielcastillo591 Well, I mean he is Mark Rober......
It's so crazy. After you adding the information I had for years, namely him being one of the kids recurring in quite a few of your videos and you having a son, together, I just now realise in how many videos your son is/was having a cameo of some sorts. 😂
moral of the story:
if you own an arcade, kick mark out as soon as he walks in.
That killed me😄😄😄😄😄
LOL
Lol
Nope, I wont
Alex Darby But wouldn’t you lose your business as he exposed you?
LITTLE KID: “you’re cheating!!”
ARCADE OWNER: “hold my beer”
POLICE: “Allow us to introduce ourselves.”
I thought he brought kids in as a decoy but further in and as he explains what he's doing, feels more like a deadweight. They were bound to attract some attention from the get go.
hold my money
@@miakiikazu hold my tickets
😂
I like how they can cheat you, but you cheat them you break the law
I mean, it’s like being a hypocrite
They can do it but you cant
Woman in a nutshell??! XD
The owner makes the rules, they are not forcing you to gamble.
@@sky-d-kid6376 you immedietaly went from 0 to 100
I'm surprised that arcades aren't required to post odds of winning games. Casinos usually are. And I think that games like this, that APPEAR to be games of skill, but are ACTUALLY games of chance, should be illegal.
Introduction to gambling addiction at a very young age.
Honestly i’m only 12 but I already know about this kind of stuff I’ve seen that I’ve only gotten one off but its just a near miss effect but I still keep playing because I think I can get it the next round until I finally realize that it’s not worth it and just MoveOn
That’s why Arcades are forbidden in Germany (you have to be 18+)
🤣
@ZyOct In Germany you don’t have Arcades either, because no one over 18 would go to an Arcade
@@Tactical_Croissant Give yourself a pat on the back
*Security guard has entered the chat*
*Security Guard has left the chat*
Dat guard stayed for a month???
You better watch out Mark
@@rafeed I wonder how much the guard was paid...
Maybe that is why he left the chat
ARMY!!
MALL COP HAS JOINED THE CHAT
6:37 Kid So you're cheating?
Mark: Well, technically...
Kid: HE'S CHEATING!!!
Mark: Do you want your tickets or not?
I think the kid after says "this is hacking" although it was cut off
😂
Just an advantage, not cheatin 😂
it's not cheating, if it's science
Not cheating, checking dank memes!
Yo~!! You're a life saver for these last days of school before my school's summer break. My kiddos and I can't get enough of your videos. I introduce science concepts, show a short clip of yours (as a teaser), my kiddos build, then watch what you did to compare and/or keep or improve their own creations. Bless you, brother.
so its basically gambling, but legal for kids
Irl p2w lmao
Technically yes
Yeah basically
Lol yes
Arcade owners: Listen here you little...
This guy is the most precise scientist I’ve ever had the pleasure watching and listening on TH-cam and almost everywhere else. Wow.
wht about vsauce
Rami Kadri VSAUCE is more general from what I’ve seen. This guy used specific measurements and specific science to test out and prove a hypothesis in a very complete way. He also built the device used in to test and prove his hypothesis. Dude... he should join Lockheed Martin.
Try Applied Science..
Try MatPat
@@Tristonrockwell Or NASA even :D
I once found that one of the machines tickets thing was open so I took all the tickets out and I won an Xbox
And everyone clapped.
It was an Xbox one, it was about a couple of years back.
r/thathappened
You are now at the FBI watch list
r/thathappened
I remember I won those games, but only twice in all my years of being on this planet. Claw machines are a different story. I have a somewhat agreeable liking/absolute hatred towards them.
I just randomly want to say, I like your profile pic.
PLOT TWIST: the jackpot slot doesn’t even have a bulb in it.
Dun dun dun
Doesn't have to, its not looking at that one, its looking a few before.
StrokeMahEgo r/whoosh
@@StrokeMahEgo lol wow you missed that one
@@chicago1680 Yeah sometimes you're the woosher and sometimes ya get wooshed. This is the way.
5.3K arcade owners disliked the video
*265K cheaters liked the video*
Why are they cheaters for liking the video? They could just enjoy watching the process of revealing a scammed game. If this was meant as a joke then just ignore this reply because in no means am I trying to offend you or anyone else.
175 cheaters liked this comment
RealOceanic it’s now called an r/whooosh
6k
@@victorlopez478 and it's now called.. U spelled r/woooosh wrong
I was always bad at these, now i see why
I worked as a carny , for a very short period of time.
They let me go, and I was happy for that.
I had to sleep at night .
If you want to enjoy yourself at the State Fair ,
just sit at the _I Got It_ tent.
Grab a beer and a sausage sandwich and get out of the sun or rain for awhile.
Johmathan .B. Swift what are you talking about?
A carny is someone who works the booths, games etc at fairs .
Games of chance, such as this, are very much rigged in favor of the owners of them at these fairs
If you have a conscience , meaning sleep at night, you most likely will not do well as a carny.
If you want to enjoy yourself, meaning not lose ,
then play a game called *I Got It*
It's a game where someone will win each time.
It's located on the midways, and generally under a tent with seats.
Grab a beer and a sandwich , or whatever, and just sit back and enjoy.
They let me go from my job as a carny , for I gave away a couple of the big prizes that are rigged .
The big ones are rarely won.
I was basically stealing money from 13 year old kids.
It bothered me.
So I gave a couple away.
F**k Um
*63* thumbs down/dislikes . Wonder whose those are ???
You've been to a fair most likely .
You've played the games of chance most likely too.
The thread here is, " I've was always bad at these games " .
My comment sheds a very brief , in agreeance . along with personal experience ,
reason why LTazze was bad at these games.
The reason being , *there're rigged* .
I was a carny .
If you don't know what one is, here's a link to explain .
Carny=Carnival worker ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carny
BTW . A great upload like this now has *79* dislikes.
The averages a excellent though.
If you want to have fun at the fair, or other places that have games like this,
don't blow your money on them.
Play something that you can enjoy, sit and relax .
Have you ever played I Got It ?
I try to avoid electronic games at arcades as they can be rigged like Mark demonstrated.
Some games have an adjustable difficulty setting rather than a payout rate; at the highest level you'd really need to hit the button within 1/12th of a hummingbird wing flap!
Oh, not only electronic ones ;)
"Your cheating!"
They cheated first. He's simply trying to level the playing field.
You're *
Its not level if youre set up to win every time and hit the maximum amount of allowable jackpots though. Plus you cant cheat when its your own rules. People can not play it though.
And even as level as he can possibly make the playing field, he still only wins 1 out of 30 tries.
a very important life lesson.
That is war
Kids: "You're cheating!"
Mark Rober: No, the arcade is cheating
Well he is telling the truth the arcade isn’t playing fair
@@Lost_walmart_kid2449 that's the point
We get kicked out for "recording machines" when they have the payout 1 every 100 turns
Well after all the arcade cheated first so he might as well cheat to
Lmao 😆 too accurate a
I hate those tickets machines for two reasons:
1) They are gambling machines for kids
2) They replace games in the arcades and most people prefer them to some good old videogames
Beuzer0 arcade games allow you be active and practise timing skill. Video games have you just sit there.
Not sure if i got your message or if you got mine, but by "good old videogames" i of course meant about arcade videogames. Not ticket machines.
Beuzer0 oh sorry I thought you meant video games like Minecraft are better than being active. Sorry
@@theeditingpug7822 Videogames don't offer timing skills? Please. F-Zero GX begs to differ.
Br!an Delta V I think being active is better than video games where you just sit there, and I’ve almost never played a video game.
Well… I like knowing that every time I missed by one as a kid it really meant that I nailed it.
Man imagine how many students would be excited to learn , if this channel was the kind of education we got
No crap, Well I dont see why we can't start suggesting it to our teachers
Yea
@@MLGLuigiGamer “no crap” lol
It’s the education we want, not need.. this can be the used as a learning tool in our own time but not in school
@@MLGLuigiGamer cuz our teachers aren’t ex nasa engineers😂
A golden key that’s being used to open a broken lock.
KeyMaster is addicting even though it's almost impossible
Yeah
Can't wait for his next vid
You plaY codm yoo
what a lovely saying
I used to work with Chuck E Cheese. Our maintenance guy decided that he wanted to increase the number of jackpots for a day. It was an interesting day for sure.
what was it like?
@@aceman0000099 It was a long time ago. If i remember right, he also lowered the amount you won so it didn't get to out of control. But it didn't change much because no one with sense trusts the game and/or didn't want to play a game that only lasts for a second.
WHAT A HERO
that maintenance guy sounds like a fun dude.
Cool
I knew it. Kudos to anyone who scams the businesses back by turning in tickets they found in the dumpster.
Arcades hate him, watch how this man exposes big arcade.
*exposed big arcade.
Hurry before this disappears
JAJAJAJJA
Arcade owners hate him!
BlackOverBlueSkies lol
...for this one simple trick!
BlackOverBlueSkies more like arcade owners love/hate him
"Easy trick that arcade owners DON'T want you to know"
Well in this case they were laughing their asses off knowing they set it to win every 30 actual wins lol
I’m surprised so many people didn’t know these were rigged
People expect it to not be rigged, because they imagine it would be illegal, then. Actually, I imagine that to be illegal as well, I wonder how it isn't.
It’s sad that they are taking advantage of young kids.
I remember getting the jackpot on my first try. Afterwards I kept getting the lights next to the jackpot, so I figured out pretty quickly that it was rigged.
@FrictionP you know those slot machines with those 777 like things to win, its already programmed where they will stop before you even push the button (or pull lever)
@@thecakeredux There are definitely rules in some countries that I'm pretty sure would say this is illegal. No idea about the US, though.
"I'm not cheating. I'm using an advantage I created myself." My new favorite quote.
I don't know why the us government usually outlaws casinos but let places like Chuck E. Cheeses exist. It's gambling. But instead of winning money. You win worthless toys
JC_mcsR53 Damn, it could be a set up for gambling addictions at an early age
To be fair, there are skill-based games in the arcade like skee-ball.
Willis some. The basket ball games and other skill based don't give tickets at all. There are very few ticket games that are at least somewhat skill based.
It's only since the whole loot-boxes scandal that I've noticed how many games are just gambling for children.
crossy road is completely skill and you can earn a ton of tickets but that’s about the only game
Carnivals & Arcades, both ruined for me
i haven't been to both
Ik
Just wait until you hear about casinos
Dum covid
@@toxoplasmagondii you've been living under a rock
i remember figuring out that game was rigged as a kid
everyone told me i was just making excuses because i was bad
Well we now know who were blind!
Don’t feel too bad, There’s a video out about Street Fighter 2 being rigged (and proven as rigged) as well .
They were just making excuses to make you feel bad
They could not handle the neutron style
same..... i can still remember seeing that light jump to either side of the jackpot
When you learn more from a 7 minute, 8 second long TH-cam video than you do from an hour of doing science for school...
Awesome video!
Were you just staring at the clock at school?
@@jonathanciencia5527 Lol I do most of my work on a laptop and so I can always see when another hour goes by...
Let's be honest, this guy is an absolute genius.
He’s the real Tony Stark
@@Bruh-gc7rd I love you 3000
@@7minutesago4yearsago29 I’m sorry I only think of you as a friend
@@Bruh-gc7rd Ouch, just got friendzoned by someone I don't even know. Well since we're in the friendzone now, how's your day going buddy?
@@7minutesago4yearsago29 good, urs?
i am never doing those games again
unless my friends are paying for it
Haha yah
I won it once
reminds me of r/choosingbeggars.
Digital games are not to be trusted
awesome gaming pfft
Mark can you make a video explaining the coin pusher arcade game?
I shook it ones. Nearly got banned from that 😂
@@mr.boomguy Well your not supposed to shake it, not only because its cheating but also bc you can break something inside of it
You can use a strong magnet to attract the coins
Ultra Bolt that would be hard because the coins aren’t positioned in the exact sport for every game, which makes the outcome rather sometimes unpredictable
@@Dodger24 The insides of the basic coin pusher are actually really simple. In a very basic coin pusher, it's just a motor with a rotating arm that helps bring the pusher element backwards and forwards.
worked in a bowling alley in high school, the winnability can be set for literally anything even the claw machines, where the grip strength is only strong enough every few plays
Kids: YOUR CHEATING!!!
"Hey, I cheated because he was cheating. I cheated a cheater, what's wrong with that?" Toph Beifong
You're*
@@MeesterVal ok lol
I see that you are a person of culture as well.
A V A T A R
Big brain time
Mark: "It's not cheating, it's an exploit"
yep
i cant believe im a third guy that reply on your comment
You again.
hola
Someone call in TheSpiffingBrit
Pull out your phone like your checking DANK MEMES
*bepis*
Bepis
You're*
d a n k m e m e s
*you're
Marks the kind of person that would terraform mars so that he could give us another interesting video to watch
Me: "No it's not cheating, it's experimenting the…mechanics of the game… and the science of…uh…chance."
Kids: "Oh that makes sense."
But I did have to cheat to see if it's a scam.
It's not cheating to play them at their own game.
Yes. Using a mechanical device to gain an unfair advantage in a game of skill and chance is illegal in Las Vegas.
Benjamin of Houston they are proving it’s not a game of skill and chance though
Bat Man I'm sorry I wasn't your little "Boy Wonder"
Cheating is a "strong" word.
I love how he says he’s “on a quest to be the coolest uncle” yet he’s the definition of a cool uncle.
Did u like ur own comment
@@meetthenelicks1222 na
@@PeanutGuyYT I did
Unless you happen to be in the path of one of his "high-speed projectiles." Lol
I wish Mark was my science teacher.
YUP!
Wish he would be my science and algebra teacher xD
he's teaching me science, so he is.
smart people do not become teachers. they make much more money doing other work. i know as my girlfriend is a teacher...
Arzan Da noob same
Have i really been watching your videos for 6 plus years. I still remember this when it first came out
Quite puzzling to see how it works, isn’t it?
i would love to see mark get let loose in a casino 😂
lol
He would get kicked out the second they noticed he was studying the machines for patterns
From what people have said, winning at casinos can get you kicked. They allow you to get normal amounts of money, but winning too much is bad to them because they want to keep all of their money. At least that's what I've heard.
@@LilChuunosuke Patterns don't exist in casinos mate
@@johnlynch9940 It's a gamble. Always will be.
3:47 we were on the verge of greatness, we were this close
Star wars? Hello there!
Lily Goedeke *wife wars*
@@jedi_cat_l4976 "Star wars? Hello there!" uhm... yeah... star wars, of course, i didn't think of anything else ^^
oof
So close ;)
The 10k dislikes are the arcades that have been exposed.
I never understand all the thumbs down on every video. I've maybe thumbed down 4 video in my life time of watching hundreds. What kind of person goes around thumbing down videos unless they are paid by you tube to do so.
@@davidsullivan3906 Now that I think about it you're right.
Xing Xing for sure
@@davidsullivan3906 I think they are Bots
David Sullivan heheh 69
I don't even need to watch the video. These games are programmed to pay out after a certain amount of money is put into it so the gain outweighs the loss. That's how most, if not all reward based arcade games work. Anyone who has worked at an arcade automatically knows significantly more than you do in this case.
It's exactly like slots. They're pre programmed to pay out a certain amount on a variable schedule. Welcome to the Skinner box of gambling: kids edition
They don't need. There's no skill, it's just random with the odds to the house.
@Sheldon Cooper Why do you think the odds can't be changed on slot machines?
This proves my theory correct! The other day I was at an arcade that was about to close, and I noticed a bunch of employees walking around with buckets of tokens, playing each game until it got a jackpot. This confirms that they were “resetting” the jackpot odds to be as low as possible for maximum profit. Shady!
They don't have to do that. The games are resettable and configurable. Vox had a video detailing the claw game, and they have a formula where you input the price of the prizes, price of the machine, and how much you want them to pay for the prize, and it figures out the "1 in XXX" chance it should apply full power to the claw. And the rest of the time you get a wimpy claw.
While that's true, what chantz is saying just allows the arcade to maximize profits while keeping the odds at a preset level (which at least sometimes set by law). Lets say you set the odds at 1/100 will win and 299 people play from a fresh slate, you will get two winners for the day the 100th player and the 200th player. the next day if you have the same numbers of players you will have 3 winners, the 1st, 101st, and 201st. For 99 days straight (assuming the same number of players each day) you will give 3 prizes a day for a total of 1091 winners. On the other hand by having employees get the jack pot at the end of the day, each day will only have 2 winners for 730 winners for the year. That's a third less prizes being won despite the odds being the same (which again i believe are legally set in some places.)
or you can just open it an click a button to reset it or set hte jackpot to whatever number you want
Resting it might require you to reprogram (especially if it's an older machine) and as I mentioned earlier the odds depending on you location may be set by law which means that they can't be set to lower odds of winning.
That's not how "odds" work. "Resetting" the machine will only work IF the machine gives out prizes on every XXXth try, it does NOTHING if you have a 1/XXX CHANCE of winning.
6:36 Kid: "So, you're basically cheating?"
Me: "Yeah, but so are they."
how to get kicked out of an arcade 101
Those games have settings that basically say "Let someone win every XX games". I used to manage arcades and got to see some of the settings in the games. In a weird way, games of true chance like Colorama are the biggest payers. Its a ball in a spinning bowl, kind of like Roulette, so theres not really any way to rig it. I started typing this comment before I reached the end, I just saw the manual shot and had to laugh as I basically nailed the wording. I'd get kids/parents complaining all the time "I hit it when the light was on and it just moved over!" The smartest way to play it is to watch a couple of 8 year old suckers lose all of their money, then swoop in and play a few rounds and you'll likely win. I'd argue the real scam in arcades is the fact that you'll spend up to $100 to win something worth $3-$5 and leave like you're on top of the world. Those prizes, especially the lower end prizes, come on a massive pallet from China. If you look closely at some of the higher end prizes, they're typically toys with slight defects that couldnt be sold in stores or its just stuff that was not selling so it gets a huge ticket price slapped on it and is some how sold at 1000% of its worth. Arcades are too far gone now. At least in the 80s-90s you could go in, learn a non-redemption game and be able to play for 10 minutes on one credit. Mortal Kombat is an example, if you were good, you could pay once and play it to the end. I could go to my local arcade with $10 (which was huge in the 90s as a kid) and play for 2 hours. Now even the games that don't pay tickets are hugely over priced, designed like the ticket games, they basically have a set amount of time you're going to play for your $1+ buy in and thats it. Skill no longer means anything to those games. I refuse to even bother playing in most arcades now unless its a retro arcade with some reasonable games in it.
An arcade that isn't a scam? Sounds like it was fun...
The good O'l days my man
Gacha digital games (usually mobile, though there several P2P ones like Star Wars BattleFront 2) completely cut out the China middleman and give out digital prizes with no monetary value at all. On one hand, these probably are the main causes of Arcade Death, on the other hand, it's a good thing they're being investigated for being practically gambling for kids...
There's a arcade near me that you pay a cover charge of 15 dollars and you can literally play all day. Like you can come in at open and leave and return as much as you want all day and play any games in there. To me, that's worth it.
Thing is, you're also paying for the fun, and that's something most mega-arcade patrons understand. I don't think anybody is under the illusion that they're going to "Win big" and give the redemption booth a run for their money.
At least in a casino that's technically possible, though statistically unlikely. In a kid's arcade, the kids legitimately enjoy the games and adults see that as part of the money spent. It's the experience. Whereas most serial casino-goers are going in for a payout, which is downright foolish.
This is a lot like the arcade crane games, right? They only deliver enough force to actually pick up an item once in awhile, which is why you lose most of the time.
It depends on the crane game. The one's with e-claw or e-laut are all payout based. Basically the ones with more expensive prizes. The ones that you find in Wal-Mart's and sometimes machines with cheaper prizes are actually skill based but you still have the owner set the strength of the claw and it can still be very hard. There are also other factors like if the prize is too big or too small for the claw.
K & G Claws and Games so to clarify what I thought you said, the newer crane machines are preset to win a game when it hits a certain number of tries, but in a classic crane machine, the claw strength is what can be altered in order to win? Aside from the prize itself's aspect like size and weight [does my wording make sense?]
Yes you are pretty much correct. Some of the older machines can be set to payout also that has been programmable since the mid 70's. And newer machines do have the option of just being a skill based game. It really just depends on the operator and what the prizes are. So just assume the more expensive the prize the more the higher the payout. The operator on newer machines can also set multiple "payouts" so for the first 20 plays the claw will be very weak, the next 20 could be only if you are really good/lucky and then have the machine keep getting stronger after so many plays again. Some of the rigged claws are also set up to have enough strength to lift the prize then drop it so you have to watch for those again. If you see a claw machine with say Yeti mugs or purses nicely arranged and they look easy to get that is definitely a payout and even if you lift the prize if it is dropped immediately payout hasn't been hit. Even on skill based it is up to the operator how easy it is to win. We have a lot of videos on Wal-Mart claw machines where you see us lose even though a prize is open and easily gettable but then we also have a series from last valentines day where we completely cleaned out a claw machine of over 50 toys because the claw operator set it so strong it was pretty much a winner every time.Sorry for the long winded explanation.
Once I got a squirtle in a claw machine game and when it grabbed the squirtle it tried to let go but it was snagged in a way where it wouldn’t fall until the actual release.
Shashwat Roy that's awesome when stuff like that happens
i swear if this dude was my science teacher i would have all a's and be hella smart
I swear 😁😁😁
YES
No, u won't...
Cuz u'd learn to cheat.. But then yea, you'll have A's..
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same bro
Totally
now mark has to test if ski ball is rigged
it's not cheating, it's 'alternative winning'
Consider that line stolen, good sir.
I'll put in to the public domain of the united states of Kekistan.
Shadilay my dude
It's not cheating if you get cheated first.
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It's pretty common knowledge at this point, but almost all Prize Cranes work the same way; they're programmed to not actually grip the prizes the majority of times.
It's a wonder this sort of thing is even legal, since it's literally Gambling marketed to children, but I guess they must get off on the loop-hole of only offering toys and tickets as prizes... kinda like how Pachinko parlors bypass Japan's gambling laws.
Every crane game has a claw strength setting. 90% of the time they are set to be too weak to grab most prizes inside.
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Really? When I was younger I used to just go to the crane games, pick the five toys I like the most, win them. And then run away from security when they assumed I cheated. It was really fun, tho my dad hated it cuz he always lost.
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@@erenakay8873 yup. Kind of crazy tho a friend of mine won an I pad on one of the new kinds of crane games.
Work smarter. Not harder. I guess.
Scrooge McDuck's dad, Ducktales, September 1987.
Why break your back if you can do things in a more confortable way?