@BenBenson Armrests are not necessary for everyone. I only use my PC for games and the correct posture for FPS games involves sitting very close to the desk with the arms rested on the desk instead of an armrest.
Roo writes in the video description "I found that lots of other people feel the same way and opt to remove the arm rests entirely", but he presents a solution where you can keep them.
Thanks for this genius idea. I have had a Markus chair for 4 years now. had this problem with the handles and tried to find an adjustable armrest replacement but nothing fits the chair. Ikea even doesn't have an adjusable height replacement for it !! even bought an adjustable height desk to help with this chair, but the problem persists when I try to put it down low.(as I like writing on a low desk).After watching your video I bought a ready made mending plates with screw & bolts from Bunnings and worked like a dream for me. costed me only 5 dollars ! I still worried though of the sharp edges as I have kids but I will cover with tape or sthg to make it smooth. Thanks
From an ergonomic point of view, the armrest should stay at the same height of the desk, so probably this solution works for you, but I think that at this point you can completely remove them and have the same results (because you don't use them anyway at this height)
The armrest mod worked well for me, but in the end I completely removed the chair altogether. The back rest caused me to have unbearable back pain. That particular S curve didn't work for me. I got another chair and had no more problems.
You could probably do the same procedure to the rear bolts as well, if it holds well on just mending plates then you've lowered the height of the armrests
@@Roos-Reviews I had same issue with back rest, there is actually a zipper thru which you can get into and remove back rest, now i want to make same mod because i have same problem, i can't get close to my table with this chair, or i have adjust chair height way below comfortable range
I have made a very similar modification to my Markus chairs. I cut some aluminum strip (similar to the mending plates), drilled holes and rounded the shapes up on a sander. However, I reused the original bolt for the lower end of the metal plate, with a nylock nut, and got a new short bolt for the upper end, since it does not need to reach very far into the threads in the chair.
If you take off the upholstry, you can move the two metal things the rests are attached to. They're screwed into a piece of plywood. Just need a screwdriver, measure and staple gun for that i think. Lets you move them back quite a bit, to where they should be. Not gnawing into your legs, and providing actual support for elbows.
dude this is so smart and simple! For me the armrests are not only too high for my desk but just too high for my height...Plus I'm already at the lowest height of the chair(with flat casters, so it's even lower lol) This is probably going to be what I end up doing, thank you for sharing this online!!
This is awesome dude! If you are incredibly lazy like me, you can just take some wire or string, if strong enough, and wrap it around the bolt, then thread each end of the string through the armrest hole and tie a knot. Some improvisation may be required to get the right height, but I did it in five minutes and paid nothing basically
I used three plastic zip ties per each armrest: one through the armrest hole and two perpendicular ones between the bolt and the bottom zip tie. It looks OK and works.
I followed your guide and after a quick trip to screwfix the chair is perfect. I used some insulation tape on the exposed, lower part of the mending plate so no danger of cutting myself. Thanks so much! Lovely dog as well.
I haven’t seen any. I looked at different options that wouldn’t work before settling on the little mending plates because they’re really cheap, easy to find and pretty strong. The catch is that the holes are slightly too small and need to be drilled out. Someone suggested wrapping metal wire around the top bolt and threading it through the hole in the arm rest a few times as another way to support the rests.
You can see the bend on the armrests from him trying to jam it under the table. 🤦♂️ How TF do you make a chair where the armrests don't fit under your desk? Thanks for this solution. If yall want a clean look, you could paint the bracket to match the chair :)
It may be technically a bit less rigid but not really perceivably in use and not so much that it wobbles or doesn’t function as a solid arm rest, as it’s still bolted to the metal strip, which is then bolted to where the armrest originally bolted to, so it’s still very solid. I use it this way for 10 hours a day without issue.
I hate the rough rubber on the armrests! They rub my elbows almost raw. Love the rest of the chair, but either my wife will have to make me some leather covers for the armrest rubber, or it is going back!
Thanks! Tell me you didn't rip the shit out of your hands or clothing with the sharp lower edges on the mending plates, though. Seems like a good place to either trip or add tape or foam.
Thank you mate ! One more question: guys is there anyone who struggles with pain in shoulders/neck due headrest ? Im like 190cm tall and I have a pain in shoulders/neck cause there is not enough rest place for it :( any ideas how to make adjustable headrest part ?
I sold my Marcus chair in the end. After about 6 months of daily use I developed really bad lower back pain. It took me a while to figure out it was the chair. I changed to a different chair and my back got better within a week.
It wasn't bad for me but what I ended up doing is buying a BORTBERG chair pillow instead of using it for lumbar support, I keep it strapped right under the headrest, in the same position it's really comfy
Can you make the edges of the silver metal plate not sharp ( i have a child) and send me a pair to Germany? I'm willing to pay whatever you think is reasonable of course.
And now the armrests are too low to actually support your elbows, so might as well remove them all together. Fact is, this chair is great but the armests suck arse no matter how you slice it. Either too low, too high, and generally too close to the desk.
@@AKARazorback Not saying you're wrong mate, the armrests have been annoying the f out of me for the past year i've owned the chair. Too close together, can't rest my arm on them, resting on WASD and hand on mouse. They're under the table much lower than my arms can reach when im comfortably close to the desk. And can't take my legs too far apart without bumping into the front of them. Considering removing the upholstery, and moving the screw mounts as far back as possible, cut new holes for them and glue patches over the old holes. Would void my 10 year warranty though, which is much of the reason why i bought it. Gone through a gamer chair every few years here, eventually breaking. Feels bad without the armrests, like sitting in the middle of a bench instead of one of the sides. It's just odd and feels wrong.
@@st0rm617 I now own a Secret Lab Titan ... Extremely comfortable for the price, not sure if the armrests can go low enough though for you if 5cm lower is how low you wanted the Ikea armrests. And even the Titan isn't perfect. But next step up is a full on 800 euro ish office chair you know.
@@AKARazorback Looks nice, never heard of that brand. Looks a lot like my old chair, this one: cdon.dk/indretning-og-mobler/arozzi-torretta-gaming-chair-black-p33537128 When it was new it was absolutely fantastic, although i should have ordered the wide version. (I'm big in size, but fairly skinny). But 2 years later i was LITERALLY sitting on two iron girders with cloth above it. Other ones have had the metal beneath buckle after a few years. Very hesitant of pouring money into a chair after the experiences i've had. And i don't have Herman Miller kind of money.
They weren't sharp but yeah it's possible I suppose, if you really hit the corner hard. But I never had an issue. My hands just don't hang down near there. It would be good to file the corners down if you were worried about it. I got rid of the chair though due to it causing me back pain.
@@Roos-Reviews Yeah it's much better now, and the seat still maintains a natural curvature (although it wasn't that bad for me before - in that it wasn't always painful). I also made multiple adjustments on mine to get the seat cushion angle straight while reclined, and swapping the legs with a shorter gas lift to reduce the overall height of the chair. So far, I'm pretty pleased with the value and comfort now. I should add, however, if the chair (specifically the seat) is not comfortable to begin with, then no amount of alterations will fix this.
bravo A++++++ you discover america your de man waoooo never thoug of that i just took them out as simple as that i will do this in my case thanks brooooooooo
I own the chair. I dont understand how you think the armrests are too high. They are not supposed to slide UNDER the desk, for best ergonomics they should be at desk plate level, so that your elbow is at 90 degrees, so in fact they are too low even on your example. After your hack, they are completely useless to you, your arms are not sitting on them while typing or using he mouse...
I don’t rest my arms on them when typing. I rest them when I’m not typing. And I use them to position the chair throughout the day. I often slide my chair slightly under my desk to reach the controls on some of my music equipment. If you google you’ll find that the arm rests hitting the desk is the most common complaint for the Markus. Many people remove the rests. My hack totally solves the issue for me personally while allowing the rests to remain attached.
Are you saying that sitting on a chair without leaning on arm rests while typing will cause wrist problems? For 20 years I’ve never rested my arms while typing or using the mouse. Am I screwed?
@@Roos-Reviews what screws your wrists is if you're typing and using mouse with your wrist "breaking" on the edge of the desk, like I said your arm should be 90 degrees at the elbow. Many drawings explain this better than I do
It's a hack... you don't need a drill press, just a drill and a vise/clamp if you're careful Truthfully you can do this with blocks of wood instead of a mending plate
They are already disproportionately low (compared to being a high chair, which in itself is unreasonably rare) and pretty much as low you get them if you even care for anything like armrests at all. You are an absolute monster. As expected of you cheesy, conceited types.
I’m guessing you don’t own this chair. A very common complaint is the arm rests hitting the table. There are multiple Reddit threads dedicated to this problem. Many people remove them altogether. If you prefer not to lower them, that’s all good, but calling me names because I lowered the arm rests on my chair is a very strange reaction.
adjustable armrests would have made that chair a world staple for gamers and office junkies
Liked the video because of the slow-mo doggy pan shot~
I solved the problem by removing the armrests.
@BenBenson Armrests are not necessary for everyone. I only use my PC for games and the correct posture for FPS games involves sitting very close to the desk with the arms rested on the desk instead of an armrest.
@@philj9594 Say that to my elbows which rest comfortably on the armrests.
That's what I'm about to do
Roo writes in the video description "I found that lots of other people feel the same way and opt to remove the arm rests entirely", but he presents a solution where you can keep them.
Thanks for this genius idea. I have had a Markus chair for 4 years now. had this problem with the handles and tried to find an adjustable armrest replacement but nothing fits the chair. Ikea even doesn't have an adjusable height replacement for it !! even bought an adjustable height desk to help with this chair, but the problem persists when I try to put it down low.(as I like writing on a low desk).After watching your video I bought a ready made mending plates with screw & bolts from Bunnings and worked like a dream for me. costed me only 5 dollars ! I still worried though of the sharp edges as I have kids but I will cover with tape or sthg to make it smooth. Thanks
Hey that's great! You can file off those sharp corners or wrap them in foam tape. Thanks for letting me know it worked for you too.
Please can you send me the link or name of the exact mending plates you bought?
I think it was this one: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/categories/building-materials/hardware/braces-and-mending-plates/mending-plates.html
Great video. Sorry you're getting so much hate in the comments. You obviously solved an issue you and a lot of other people were having. Thanks 😊
Thank you.
From an ergonomic point of view, the armrest should stay at the same height of the desk, so probably this solution works for you, but I think that at this point you can completely remove them and have the same results (because you don't use them anyway at this height)
The armrest mod worked well for me, but in the end I completely removed the chair altogether. The back rest caused me to have unbearable back pain. That particular S curve didn't work for me. I got another chair and had no more problems.
@@Roos-Reviews what chair did you switch to?
You could probably do the same procedure to the rear bolts as well, if it holds well on just mending plates then you've lowered the height of the armrests
@@Roos-Reviews I had same issue with back rest, there is actually a zipper thru which you can get into and remove back rest, now i want to make same mod because i have same problem, i can't get close to my table with this chair, or i have adjust chair height way below comfortable range
I have made a very similar modification to my Markus chairs. I cut some aluminum strip (similar to the mending plates), drilled holes and rounded the shapes up on a sander. However, I reused the original bolt for the lower end of the metal plate, with a nylock nut, and got a new short bolt for the upper end, since it does not need to reach very far into the threads in the chair.
If you take off the upholstry, you can move the two metal things the rests are attached to. They're screwed into a piece of plywood.
Just need a screwdriver, measure and staple gun for that i think.
Lets you move them back quite a bit, to where they should be. Not gnawing into your legs, and providing actual support for elbows.
I almost never comment on youtube, but damn, your hack is a lifesaver!! Also, I love your dog, I burst out laughing when the slow mo video started.
Thanks. Yeah she's a cute one!
dude this is so smart and simple! For me the armrests are not only too high for my desk but just too high for my height...Plus I'm already at the lowest height of the chair(with flat casters, so it's even lower lol) This is probably going to be what I end up doing, thank you for sharing this online!!
No problem! You could even repeat the process for the rear bolt to lower the whole armrest evenly.
I had exactly the same problem. 😅 I put beer coaster under the legs of the table. Problem solved! 👍
Nice!
This is awesome dude! If you are incredibly lazy like me, you can just take some wire or string, if strong enough, and wrap it around the bolt, then thread each end of the string through the armrest hole and tie a knot. Some improvisation may be required to get the right height, but I did it in five minutes and paid nothing basically
Yes, good idea.
I used three plastic zip ties per each armrest: one through the armrest hole and two perpendicular ones between the bolt and the bottom zip tie. It looks OK and works.
One day, you're going to slice your hand on that sharp edge...
What size are the original bolts that go into the armrest?
8mm (and 60mm) like the video says I believe
You are right: What were they thinking? It's the details I like about your video, and the end with the dog ;)
same thanks! mine problem now solved :D
I followed your guide and after a quick trip to screwfix the chair is perfect. I used some insulation tape on the exposed, lower part of the mending plate so no danger of cutting myself. Thanks so much! Lovely dog as well.
That's great that it worked out for you. Another idea is to grind or file off the sharp corners.
is there a mending plate that wouldnt need to be drilled into? sorry im trying to figure this out without any handyman skills lol
I haven’t seen any. I looked at different options that wouldn’t work before settling on the little mending plates because they’re really cheap, easy to find and pretty strong. The catch is that the holes are slightly too small and need to be drilled out.
Someone suggested wrapping metal wire around the top bolt and threading it through the hole in the arm rest a few times as another way to support the rests.
@@Roos-Reviews Ah I see, thanks so much anyways! :D
You can see the bend on the armrests from him trying to jam it under the table. 🤦♂️
How TF do you make a chair where the armrests don't fit under your desk?
Thanks for this solution. If yall want a clean look, you could paint the bracket to match the chair :)
The armrests' mounting holes form a mechnical unit with the bracket attached to the wood base, so you weakend their weight support quite a bit.
It may be technically a bit less rigid but not really perceivably in use and not so much that it wobbles or doesn’t function as a solid arm rest, as it’s still bolted to the metal strip, which is then bolted to where the armrest originally bolted to, so it’s still very solid. I use it this way for 10 hours a day without issue.
thank you internet
I hate the rough rubber on the armrests! They rub my elbows almost raw. Love the rest of the chair, but either my wife will have to make me some leather covers for the armrest rubber, or it is going back!
I sold mine after a few months. It gave me really bad back pain.
Hello, thank you for hack. Could you tell me about your top table height and height of bottom your table and height your chair?
Thanks! Tell me you didn't rip the shit out of your hands or clothing with the sharp lower edges on the mending plates, though. Seems like a good place to either trip or add tape or foam.
I haven't had any mishaps yet but you could certainly pad them out or grind the corners down.
@@Roos-Reviews I'm honestly glad. Because I totally would hurt myself. LOL I'm hoping to use your methods to mod my next office chair. Thx again
Love thos video - helpful and soothing!
Thank you mate !
One more question: guys is there anyone who struggles with pain in shoulders/neck due headrest ? Im like 190cm tall and I have a pain in shoulders/neck cause there is not enough rest place for it :( any ideas how to make adjustable headrest part ?
I sold my Marcus chair in the end. After about 6 months of daily use I developed really bad lower back pain. It took me a while to figure out it was the chair. I changed to a different chair and my back got better within a week.
It wasn't bad for me but what I ended up doing is buying a BORTBERG chair pillow
instead of using it for lumbar support, I keep it strapped right under the headrest, in the same position
it's really comfy
Is mending plat holes are standardized ot customised ?
It`s cool idea ! Maybe you can paint the plates black. Thanks for sharing ;)
That would look better, yes. Good idea.
Anybody knows if the metal plate can be ordered somewhere? I don't have the tools to make it myself.
I bought the plates from Home Depot, a large hardware store in North America.
wow great hack! Thanks!
No problem!
Where I can get replacement arm pads?
Great chair, but the armrests are like 2 cm too high for me, so I have to pull up my shoulders, which causes pain after some time.
I actually had to sell my chair as it gave me really bad back pain after a few months.
Brilliant. Cute dog.
alternatively you could just remove armrests and asemble them upside down instead, thats what I did :)
Why assemble upside down instead of just leaving them out altogether?
@@GoldenShip24 because if i remeved them completely, the seat cover would become looser, handrest fixes it in place ;)
this guy gets it
Nice! 🙌🏻⚡️💪🏻💥👏🏻 I’d like to suggestI adding some black spray paint to this awesome mix 👍🏻
Great idea. If I can find a spray paint that won’t scrape off I might try it.
:D you made me laugh - good job mate, i hope you feel comfortable already.
Can you make the edges of the silver metal plate not sharp ( i have a child) and send me a pair to Germany? I'm willing to pay whatever you think is reasonable of course.
I don't make these as a business, I just did it for myself and made a tutorial to help others.
Is IKEA Marcus Chair good for use 6-8 hours daily for person weighing 110kg with Height:5 feet 8 inches?
Noo to fat
@@Suriprofz I am 5 feet 9 inches with 82kg and it suits me perfectly
No.
0:27 haha you said nuts
really cute dog
nice!! thanks
This is nice, but I need them foldable so I can play my guitars.
And now the armrests are too low to actually support your elbows, so might as well remove them all together. Fact is, this chair is great but the armests suck arse no matter how you slice it. Either too low, too high, and generally too close to the desk.
Armrests are too close to the desk, aye, the main problem. But i have long arms, and i could comfortably have them be 5 cm lower.
@@st0rm617 Which is what I wrote...
@@AKARazorback Not saying you're wrong mate, the armrests have been annoying the f out of me for the past year i've owned the chair. Too close together, can't rest my arm on them, resting on WASD and hand on mouse. They're under the table much lower than my arms can reach when im comfortably close to the desk. And can't take my legs too far apart without bumping into the front of them.
Considering removing the upholstery, and moving the screw mounts as far back as possible, cut new holes for them and glue patches over the old holes.
Would void my 10 year warranty though, which is much of the reason why i bought it. Gone through a gamer chair every few years here, eventually breaking.
Feels bad without the armrests, like sitting in the middle of a bench instead of one of the sides. It's just odd and feels wrong.
@@st0rm617 I now own a Secret Lab Titan ... Extremely comfortable for the price, not sure if the armrests can go low enough though for you if 5cm lower is how low you wanted the Ikea armrests. And even the Titan isn't perfect. But next step up is a full on 800 euro ish office chair you know.
@@AKARazorback Looks nice, never heard of that brand. Looks a lot like my old chair, this one: cdon.dk/indretning-og-mobler/arozzi-torretta-gaming-chair-black-p33537128
When it was new it was absolutely fantastic, although i should have ordered the wide version. (I'm big in size, but fairly skinny). But 2 years later i was LITERALLY sitting on two iron girders with cloth above it.
Other ones have had the metal beneath buckle after a few years.
Very hesitant of pouring money into a chair after the experiences i've had. And i don't have Herman Miller kind of money.
GREAT!
That edge on the mending plate will cut you if you are not careful
They weren't sharp but yeah it's possible I suppose, if you really hit the corner hard. But I never had an issue. My hands just don't hang down near there. It would be good to file the corners down if you were worried about it. I got rid of the chair though due to it causing me back pain.
@@Roos-Reviews I had to remove the lumber support foam for same reasons
Did that solve it for you? No more back pain?
@@Roos-Reviews Yeah it's much better now, and the seat still maintains a natural curvature (although it wasn't that bad for me before - in that it wasn't always painful). I also made multiple adjustments on mine to get the seat cushion angle straight while reclined, and swapping the legs with a shorter gas lift to reduce the overall height of the chair. So far, I'm pretty pleased with the value and comfort now. I should add, however, if the chair (specifically the seat) is not comfortable to begin with, then no amount of alterations will fix this.
That sounds great. I wish I'd tried such modifications before I gave up on it.
Forget the rear part of the armrests
bravo A++++++ you discover america your de man waoooo never thoug of that i just took them out as simple as that i will do this in my case thanks brooooooooo
just take a hack saw to the front of it
U can put 4 block bricks with 7cm hight under the desk legs instead of cmplicated drilling
Adjusting desk hight😁
and then you would have to rise your chair 7cm for a good posture too and the problem stays
Asd 123 gets it.
I own the chair. I dont understand how you think the armrests are too high. They are not supposed to slide UNDER the desk, for best ergonomics they should be at desk plate level, so that your elbow is at 90 degrees, so in fact they are too low even on your example. After your hack, they are completely useless to you, your arms are not sitting on them while typing or using he mouse...
anyway for the Markus to be perfect, we should be able to ajust height of the armrest.
I don’t rest my arms on them when typing. I rest them when I’m not typing. And I use them to position the chair throughout the day. I often slide my chair slightly under my desk to reach the controls on some of my music equipment.
If you google you’ll find that the arm rests hitting the desk is the most common complaint for the Markus. Many people remove the rests. My hack totally solves the issue for me personally while allowing the rests to remain attached.
@@Roos-Reviews you will have wrist issues that's all I'm saying
Are you saying that sitting on a chair without leaning on arm rests while typing will cause wrist problems? For 20 years I’ve never rested my arms while typing or using the mouse. Am I screwed?
@@Roos-Reviews what screws your wrists is if you're typing and using mouse with your wrist "breaking" on the edge of the desk, like I said your arm should be 90 degrees at the elbow. Many drawings explain this better than I do
Ah yes, 'hack'...just need a drill press.
It's a hack... you don't need a drill press, just a drill and a vise/clamp if you're careful
Truthfully you can do this with blocks of wood instead of a mending plate
If only he had just removed that useless lip under the desk in the first place...
That’s the desk frame. It’s kind of an important piece.
0:17
They are already disproportionately low (compared to being a high chair, which in itself is unreasonably rare) and pretty much as low you get them if you even care for anything like armrests at all.
You are an absolute monster. As expected of you cheesy, conceited types.
I’m guessing you don’t own this chair. A very common complaint is the arm rests hitting the table. There are multiple Reddit threads dedicated to this problem. Many people remove them altogether.
If you prefer not to lower them, that’s all good, but calling me names because I lowered the arm rests on my chair is a very strange reaction.
@@Roos-Reviews I think he was joking
They didn't give it proper armrests just to give other chairs a change