Thanks for the shout out! FYI, "Nguh is the best sound in the world" didn't translate because it didn't recognise "nguh" as an English word. You could have added "nguh" as a cutsom word. Otherwise, something like "The ocean is the best sound in the world" would have worked (With that said, many kinds of sentences can trip it up. the translator is still a work-in-progress)
Yeah that totally makes sense; I figured. That translator element looks like it would be the hardest to perfect, having to deal with variables like non-words getting slapped in there, hahah. Great work though!
I just got two licenses on for me one for my brother. It would be awesome to see a vocalizer built into the translate feature. Sorta like IPA reader xyz
@@andrewemmet3723 This is sort of on our To Do list, but it has problems. (By the way, XYZ reader plugs into Amazon Polly's text-to-speech software. So, all the credit for that website really goes to Amazon and their deep learning techniques.) But the problem with Polly is all the deep learning is done on real life humans from speaking different languages, and no real life language has all the IPA symbols in it. This is what would be needed to theoretically be able to do what we want with Vulgar -- something that can seamlessly speak any IPA you give it. All you can do is choose a speaker from, say, Russia, and then feed it phonemes that Russian has. As soon as you feed it a phoneme that Russian doesn't have the speech is no longer accurate at all.
I would assume that's only the case in C++ (i think that's where i remember /n from) since other programming languages have other ways to code a line-break
@@tylerdoesdumbstuff no, pretty much every major programming language uses for the newline, including c, java, python, javascript, and basically any other with a c like syntax
I find the fun of conlanging to be in making something that sounds, feels, or looks weird. This is why I rarely end up with more than 200 words. I really only care about grammar, phonology, and writing system/romanization
A bit late but Vulgar Lang is so much more powerful than what you've described here. You can just straight up feed it the grammar you've created for a conlang, give it the phonemes and spelling rules, and just let it spit out 4000 words worth of vocab. Also great to generate conlangs for worlds where the language isn't the main focus of it, such as a conworld where you're creating cultures and societies, but can't be bothered with conlangs you won't use too regularly. It's a neat tool, and honestly just fun to play with more than anything else
Yeah, which makes it more useful for someone like me, as I prefer making grammatical rules/defining how the language works over creating the words themselves.
epic video :) i use vulgarlang as basically a dictionary generation tool for conscripts when i want to focus more on making calligraphy than creating words and grammar. ive also heard ppl using it for large worldbuilding projects when they need a less important language and dont want to spend a bunch of time developing a full conlang for something they wont use all too much
I've never made a conlang before. I am using VulgarLang to figure it out. The fact that I can determine the frequency and common position of phonemes, develop about every aspect of the grammar, etc, etc, is helping me to understand how to construct a language. You also don't have to tell it to make the vocabulary - you can do it yourself - and you have all the rules and guidelines of your language right there to work with. So, to summarize, you don't have to use it as an automatic language generator. You can use it as a way to teach yourself how to construct languages, and as a tool to organize the rules you develop. A+.
I bought vulgar lang years ago and i love it! I still make my own conlangs without it but I’m thinking of using it to create a protolang and then run it through sound changes.
heya, here's my non-linguist/non-phonologist take on Vulgar Lang. I like worldbuilding for fantasy settings and language is super important in creating place names and words for aspects of the cultures that are unique. However, since I dont have a background in languages I really just want one that sounds interesting and believable, and from there i can use it for placenaming etc. This goes beyond a random name generator because in real life place names are often just a compound description using a parts of the language or an older form of that language (like Worcestershire or Pennsylvania). The one thing thats pretty difficult for me with vulgarlang, is that I really have to learn a lot about phonology in order to make the language sound the way i imagine it might. thats definitely a barrier to entry for me but hopefully it will soon be worth it and once i learn that i can spit out language for all the different regions in our settings.
Oh I meant to ask, does anyone have a good IPA Reader / voice over tool? ipa-reader.xyz/ is easy but the voice is a little robotic. I'm looking for something like that but better
@@andrewemmet3723 There's www.ipachart.com/ and web.uvic.ca/ling/resources/ipa/charts/IPAlab/IPAlab.htm for just having someone read the chart to you, as well as this app play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hkbu.ulip.avphonetics which I believe provides extra information and exercises to learn IPA. Making a tool that can properly pronounce arbitrary strings of IPA without sounding robotic would be a huge undertaking, and probably require working with a human who can accurately pronounce the whole chart, so I doubt something like that is out there. Also, Vulgar is a hacked-together mess, if you only want the word generation and you'd rather not deal with IPA then just grab a word generator like awkwords, assign the meanings and then make the compounds from there. Could even plop the IPA into awkwords if you do want it. You wouldn't be losing anything of value, since there's nothing linguistically sound or well-researched about Vulgar. Though power to you if it still works for you of course.
Vulgar is amazing. If you want it to do the entire conlang, you just have to click the button. But you can create your own grammar and phonetics rules, just letting the site create the vocabulary (which I really hate to do haha)
I think Vulgar is either for non-conlanger worldbuilders that want a conlang for merely utilitarian purposes, or for conlangers that don't have the mental capacity or time to fully flesh out a world and make thousands of languages from the ground up.
Thanks for the video. The better camera and the boom mic were good. Feel free to use them for more videos. This would be a great tool for people who need a quick conlang for a world they’re creating, who want all the bits that a conlanger would create, but don’t have time or mental energy for it themselves at that time. I do both conlang and world creation, so sometimes it would be nice. Will try this out and see if it’s something I can use to throw together a language for people who need one, but who I don’t want to make one for myself. I can also see this as useful if you need a language to use for certain borrowed words. Sometimes you don’t want to create a whole new language while you’re already in the middle of one just to get a few borrowed words.
I could see myself using that to make a protolang, but the more customization it gives over the results the more value I can see in it. And from what I'm reading, it does that and more, do I'll be sure to give it a look.
Vulgar is such a great tool, I've used it myself, occasionally still now, especially for generating vocab, creating languages quickly for either worldbuilding and challenges etc. And their Social Media Management is great too, they left a comment on one of my videos (Hi Vulgar peeps if you're here!) Excellent video!
@@Dracheneks no it does not. That is only inasmuch you consider auto-generated languages fully developed and treat them as such, which would be cheating yourself into thinking that this version of the constructed language is the end-product. It is not. The features given, even in the paid version, are not sufficient enough in terms of grammatical and syntactic description (or prescription? notice the paradox here?) to allow one to fully avoid unconscious implementation of one's own native language in their absence. It is a cruel and horrible joke, such a sadness to see people confuse the beauty of computer generated randomness, without explicit explanation, with logical reasoning upon such randomness.
@@marboleth4845 Of course, that is valid. However if someone wanted a language they could go to Vulgar instead. But you make a very good point. It is a shame that that could be believed as the finished product, it puts down all the effort that we actually do put into it.
A possible use case for vulgarlang: if you want one branch of your conlang family be influenced by a substrate language, but you don't want to put a whole load of effort into making one just to have it erased from your conworld's history.
This is literally perfect for me as I need a language and have some sounds picked out, but my interest isn't in the conlang, it's everything else, I especially wasn't looking forward to the grammar and word formation
This could be super useful for worldbuilders who are indecisive or just easily overwhelmed by the idea of conlanging (i.e. me). Open up vulgarlang, maybe throw in some sounds you wanna include, click generate and boom, now you have a protolanguage to work with.
Yes, generators take away some of the fun of conlanging. If your fun however is Worldbuilding or Story Crafting, then you may want a complete language at the click of a button and get back to what you were creating the conlang for.
I was stumped on my conlang and used vulgar to kick-start it. I had quite a bit of the rules already done and used the free version to fill in the gaps. I find more enjoyment out of creating the dictionary and writing stuff using my conlang.
Most interesting service, and sold, since I may find use for it with minor languages. In world-building, some languages need to be alive, while other ones just need to exist.
This is just an opinion but Vulgarlang would probably be used by people who want a fictional language but don't want to go through the effort of hiring a conlanger or making a conlang themselves
Still can't figure it out how to use that language generator. The more I put my focus on generating and adjusting my own language, the more gibberish, abstract and unintelligible it becomes.
I don't want to be rude, but how dare you to alert me of this app's existence. The app is better now, and I wish it wasn't. All I feel is pain. My life is no longer worth living.
Hello, how do you make an inconcatenative inflexion system that fuses Mood and Tense in VulgarLang? I tried to do 'it once, but 'it was to tough for me and the instructions were not answering my askings. And how do you make a list of transfixes?
but i don't know how to speak the english, i'm foreign, what i do!?!?, haha lie, i can understand, i'm really foreign, but i just want my little bit english to be analyzed😔, estas tre plejbona ke mi parolas esperanton😔
How customizeable is it exactly, like could you actually take a fictional setting with a poorly defined native language and feed all known data from it into the thing, how well would that work? Maybe to test it we should re-create an existing one, put in all the scraps of Dothraki from the books and compare the language it makes with DJP's version. If it works then that's a potential use of Vulgarlang right there, quick and cheap alternative to DJP.
You can feed it the vocabulary of an existing language (in IPA format) and then it can generate more words with the same look and feel as the words you gave it: Phonology tab > Word Structure > analyse word structure of your own language. Everything is fully customisable -- vocab, grammar, etc. It may take a bit of work to convert an existing language into the format it needs though. Happy to answer any other questions!
Thanks for the shout out! FYI, "Nguh is the best sound in the world" didn't translate because it didn't recognise "nguh" as an English word. You could have added "nguh" as a cutsom word. Otherwise, something like "The ocean is the best sound in the world" would have worked (With that said, many kinds of sentences can trip it up. the translator is still a work-in-progress)
Yeah that totally makes sense; I figured. That translator element looks like it would be the hardest to perfect, having to deal with variables like non-words getting slapped in there, hahah. Great work though!
I just got two licenses on for me one for my brother. It would be awesome to see a vocalizer built into the translate feature. Sorta like IPA reader xyz
@@andrewemmet3723 This is sort of on our To Do list, but it has problems. (By the way, XYZ reader plugs into Amazon Polly's text-to-speech software. So, all the credit for that website really goes to Amazon and their deep learning techniques.) But the problem with Polly is all the deep learning is done on real life humans from speaking different languages, and no real life language has all the IPA symbols in it. This is what would be needed to theoretically be able to do what we want with Vulgar -- something that can seamlessly speak any IPA you give it. All you can do is choose a speaker from, say, Russia, and then feed it phonemes that Russian has. As soon as you feed it a phoneme that Russian doesn't have the speech is no longer accurate at all.
@@vulgarlang Can u guys add Turkish to settings, its hard to use in English little bit.
@@keremkaankylar948 Do you mean instructions in Turkish?
7:38 ‘
’ in programming is the line feed character. That means that there is a line break at that position.
I would assume that's only the case in C++ (i think that's where i remember /n from) since other programming languages have other ways to code a line-break
@@tylerdoesdumbstuff no, pretty much every major programming language uses
for the newline, including c, java, python, javascript, and basically any other with a c like syntax
@@rz2374 except for ALGOL, that uses *N
I find the fun of conlanging to be in making something that sounds, feels, or looks weird. This is why I rarely end up with more than 200 words. I really only care about grammar, phonology, and writing system/romanization
Me too. I also don't care about naturalism.
Şlişlaşlo iŋjo ʔoupera kötüre koʔşe
2
fr
A bit late but Vulgar Lang is so much more powerful than what you've described here. You can just straight up feed it the grammar you've created for a conlang, give it the phonemes and spelling rules, and just let it spit out 4000 words worth of vocab. Also great to generate conlangs for worlds where the language isn't the main focus of it, such as a conworld where you're creating cultures and societies, but can't be bothered with conlangs you won't use too regularly.
It's a neat tool, and honestly just fun to play with more than anything else
Yeah, which makes it more useful for someone like me, as I prefer making grammatical rules/defining how the language works over creating the words themselves.
a conlang created by vulgarlang should definitely be called a vulglang
a vulgarlang even
Vulgarian
@@Drakeblood97 XD
@@Drakeblood97
*Sound change: V > B
POV: Bulgarian
epic video :) i use vulgarlang as basically a dictionary generation tool for conscripts when i want to focus more on making calligraphy than creating words and grammar. ive also heard ppl using it for large worldbuilding projects when they need a less important language and dont want to spend a bunch of time developing a full conlang for something they wont use all too much
vulgarlang is just an any% speedrun
I've never made a conlang before. I am using VulgarLang to figure it out. The fact that I can determine the frequency and common position of phonemes, develop about every aspect of the grammar, etc, etc, is helping me to understand how to construct a language. You also don't have to tell it to make the vocabulary - you can do it yourself - and you have all the rules and guidelines of your language right there to work with. So, to summarize, you don't have to use it as an automatic language generator. You can use it as a way to teach yourself how to construct languages, and as a tool to organize the rules you develop. A+.
I bought vulgar lang years ago and i love it! I still make my own conlangs without it but I’m thinking of using it to create a protolang and then run it through sound changes.
heya, here's my non-linguist/non-phonologist take on Vulgar Lang. I like worldbuilding for fantasy settings and language is super important in creating place names and words for aspects of the cultures that are unique. However, since I dont have a background in languages I really just want one that sounds interesting and believable, and from there i can use it for placenaming etc. This goes beyond a random name generator because in real life place names are often just a compound description using a parts of the language or an older form of that language (like Worcestershire or Pennsylvania). The one thing thats pretty difficult for me with vulgarlang, is that I really have to learn a lot about phonology in order to make the language sound the way i imagine it might. thats definitely a barrier to entry for me but hopefully it will soon be worth it and once i learn that i can spit out language for all the different regions in our settings.
Oh I meant to ask, does anyone have a good IPA Reader / voice over tool? ipa-reader.xyz/ is easy but the voice is a little robotic. I'm looking for something like that but better
@@andrewemmet3723 There's
www.ipachart.com/
and web.uvic.ca/ling/resources/ipa/charts/IPAlab/IPAlab.htm
for just having someone read the chart to you, as well as this app
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hkbu.ulip.avphonetics
which I believe provides extra information and exercises to learn IPA.
Making a tool that can properly pronounce arbitrary strings of IPA without sounding robotic would be a huge undertaking, and probably require working with a human who can accurately pronounce the whole chart, so I doubt something like that is out there.
Also, Vulgar is a hacked-together mess, if you only want the word generation and you'd rather not deal with IPA then just grab a word generator like awkwords, assign the meanings and then make the compounds from there. Could even plop the IPA into awkwords if you do want it.
You wouldn't be losing anything of value, since there's nothing linguistically sound or well-researched about Vulgar. Though power to you if it still works for you of course.
Omg hi, never been that early
Victory is yours
@@AgmaSchwa hahha
Vulgar is amazing. If you want it to do the entire conlang, you just have to click the button. But you can create your own grammar and phonetics rules, just letting the site create the vocabulary (which I really hate to do haha)
I think Vulgar is either for non-conlanger worldbuilders that want a conlang for merely utilitarian purposes, or for conlangers that don't have the mental capacity or time to fully flesh out a world and make thousands of languages from the ground up.
I half expected that Vulgarlang was gonna be a tool to make a "Vulgar" version of your conlang
Thanks for the video. The better camera and the boom mic were good. Feel free to use them for more videos.
This would be a great tool for people who need a quick conlang for a world they’re creating, who want all the bits that a conlanger would create, but don’t have time or mental energy for it themselves at that time.
I do both conlang and world creation, so sometimes it would be nice. Will try this out and see if it’s something I can use to throw together a language for people who need one, but who I don’t want to make one for myself.
I can also see this as useful if you need a language to use for certain borrowed words. Sometimes you don’t want to create a whole new language while you’re already in the middle of one just to get a few borrowed words.
I could see myself using that to make a protolang, but the more customization it gives over the results the more value I can see in it. And from what I'm reading, it does that and more, do I'll be sure to give it a look.
Vulgar is such a great tool, I've used it myself, occasionally still now, especially for generating vocab, creating languages quickly for either worldbuilding and challenges etc. And their Social Media Management is great too, they left a comment on one of my videos (Hi Vulgar peeps if you're here!)
Excellent video!
"creating languages quickly" thats honestly sad
That, @@marboleth4845, is true.. makes what we do a bit redundant.
@@Dracheneks no it does not. That is only inasmuch you consider auto-generated languages fully developed and treat them as such, which would be cheating yourself into thinking that this version of the constructed language is the end-product. It is not. The features given, even in the paid version, are not sufficient enough in terms of grammatical and syntactic description (or prescription? notice the paradox here?) to allow one to fully avoid unconscious implementation of one's own native language in their absence. It is a cruel and horrible joke, such a sadness to see people confuse the beauty of computer generated randomness, without explicit explanation, with logical reasoning upon such randomness.
@@marboleth4845 Of course, that is valid. However if someone wanted a language they could go to Vulgar instead. But you make a very good point. It is a shame that that could be believed as the finished product, it puts down all the effort that we actually do put into it.
Hello! Sorry we missed your message 11 months ago >
A possible use case for vulgarlang: if you want one branch of your conlang family be influenced by a substrate language, but you don't want to put a whole load of effort into making one just to have it erased from your conworld's history.
Finally some conlanger making useful videos. Loved it!!!
4:26 Ja, that's pretty jikes.
5:38 Ah, but do they have the faciomanual click?
oh, is this a JAN MISLI REFERENCE
@Hayden the Toa Hello the Toa
🤦♂️ :D
This is literally perfect for me as I need a language and have some sounds picked out, but my interest isn't in the conlang, it's everything else, I especially wasn't looking forward to the grammar and word formation
This could be super useful for worldbuilders who are indecisive or just easily overwhelmed by the idea of conlanging (i.e. me). Open up vulgarlang, maybe throw in some sounds you wanna include, click generate and boom, now you have a protolanguage to work with.
I just generated a language and it's called human like wtf lmaoooo
Yes, generators take away some of the fun of conlanging. If your fun however is Worldbuilding or Story Crafting, then you may want a complete language at the click of a button and get back to what you were creating the conlang for.
I was stumped on my conlang and used vulgar to kick-start it. I had quite a bit of the rules already done and used the free version to fill in the gaps. I find more enjoyment out of creating the dictionary and writing stuff using my conlang.
Epic for ideas and for people like me who are learning about all of this (Conlanging and Linguistics) by themselves :D
This was all built by just one person, as I understand it. Also, nice boom mic! Hoping to see your horizons broaden with it!
I used VulgarLang a lot lol
Most interesting service, and sold, since I may find use for it with minor languages.
In world-building, some languages need to be alive, while other ones just need to exist.
Now, we Vulglanger
#lingua_vulgare
vulgar is good ONLY when you sing up, it's VERY limited when free, if a free version of Vulgar gets made, I want to be the first to use it!
There's a program like that. "PolyGlot: Spoken Language Construction Kit". I use that since Vulgarlang is like if Adobe made a conlang tool.
@@DevilSpider_ I remember that tool, it even dwells on one of my computer's 2 drives. I seldom use it, though.
language aside ! is it wrong to say he is dayuuuum cute !!
I love Vulgar lang so much, and even though I don't use any of the paid versions. I enjoy it a ton and got a few languages saved out of it. :D
1:36
Its actually "The Gambia" not just "Gambia"
If you are going to put a random flag and country on your bookmark bar, do it RIGHT lol
oh believe me, I know. If only you knew what was beyond that bookmark, hehehe
Hi, nice video
Ooh hi Tark
@ oh hi Käntwo
7:38 I'm sure you know this by now, but /n is code/markdown for going to a new line (like pressing Enter in a word doc).
I'm defo gonna use this to help with my conlanging, I dont know much about conlangs or languages in general, so thisll help allot
And here's me, getting distracted by a cute puppy.
Maybe someone could generate a language and then try to create a culture around it???
This is definitely possible; could also be a DnD Dungeon Master strategy
This is just an opinion but Vulgarlang would probably be used by people who want a fictional language but don't want to go through the effort of hiring a conlanger or making a conlang themselves
i mean
yeah?
isn't that like kind of the point?
Wait, conlanging may be a job?
Still can't figure it out how to use that language generator. The more I put my focus on generating and adjusting my own language, the more gibberish, abstract and unintelligible it becomes.
What are you struggling with the most? i.e. phonology, spelling, grammar?
I don't want to be rude, but how dare you to alert me of this app's existence. The app is better now, and I wish it wasn't. All I feel is pain. My life is no longer worth living.
Cool
I think what this would be useful for is world builders who want languages in their world but they don’t have linguistics knowledge
Please don't ever stop making videos
I could see someone using vulgar to make a proto just to get themself started
Nerdiest thing I’ve ever seen, not bad.
It's even cooler if you think how can imitate already created languages like Italian, French, German etc.
Yep! There are presets for language like French, German, Russian under the "Word Structure" option
"i have no coordination in mirrored spaces" nguh says
is convention to "new line" character in programming
I might've been one of the people who mentioned it, since i use it
The .vulgar file is just a JSON file so it's extremely easy to parse
Wait what do you mean?
its a json file, a common and standard filetype for storing data, mainly variables and lists, to be imported, exported, parsed, etc.
denotes a
line break
bro has gambia as a bookmark i love it
Ng is like not a rare sound
stands for new line
Hello, how do you make an inconcatenative inflexion system that fuses Mood and Tense in VulgarLang? I tried to do 'it once, but 'it was to tough for me and the instructions were not answering my askings.
And how do you make a list of transfixes?
That phonemic difference between /tʃ/ and /ʂ/ is weird, but it is in the Selk'nam language. Interesting...
but i don't know how to speak the english, i'm foreign, what i do!?!?, haha lie, i can understand, i'm really foreign, but i just want my little bit english to be analyzed😔, estas tre plejbona ke mi parolas esperanton😔
I really use Vulgar for stuff like derivations, noun affix, verb affix, and pronoun generation, its a really good tool imo
Anybody else notice one of his bookmarks is literally just Gambia?
Would you consider doing a follow up on this video where you explore the features you didn't really touch on, like the grammar editor?
How customizeable is it exactly, like could you actually take a fictional setting with a poorly defined native language and feed all known data from it into the thing, how well would that work? Maybe to test it we should re-create an existing one, put in all the scraps of Dothraki from the books and compare the language it makes with DJP's version. If it works then that's a potential use of Vulgarlang right there, quick and cheap alternative to DJP.
You can feed it the vocabulary of an existing language (in IPA format) and then it can generate more words with the same look and feel as the words you gave it: Phonology tab > Word Structure > analyse word structure of your own language.
Everything is fully customisable -- vocab, grammar, etc. It may take a bit of work to convert an existing language into the format it needs though. Happy to answer any other questions!
Homestuck
Correct
Clearly it’s pronounced [vylɡɔɹ] and not vulgar
The use for this is for code making
In the language im learning ng is super common
what is it
Mās kaŧaaß idaređ?
(Why do you use it?)
woow, fajny język, ty go stworzyłeś/aś sam/a? jak tak to powiedz pls jak to zrobić
@@vadympopov5278 No, zrobiłem, utworzyłem, po prostu wypisałem inną gramatykę, alfabet, przykłady czego tam kolwiek itd.
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gleb when review when
👀👀👀
can you show more about polyglot spoken language construction kit
ŋə is based. w ŋə