Seraphim: An Angelic Conlang for Agma Schwa's Cursed Conlang Contest

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  • @markusfassbinder8275
    @markusfassbinder8275 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    In the conlang circus video:
    th-cam.com/video/W7PfzG-2y_0/w-d-xo.html

  • @edwinkjellzahn
    @edwinkjellzahn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2033

    The color notation fucking killed me. Imagine conversing with angel and you get blasted with 90 million bequerels of ionizing radiation.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +864

      I went out of my way to ensure that the "start" phoneme included an ionizing vowel. That way, you literally cannot listen to a grammatical sentence in this language without getting blasted

    • @noisepuppet
      @noisepuppet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      ikr I'd be like 😮

    • @noisepuppet
      @noisepuppet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Except vaporized

    • @nixel1324
      @nixel1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      @@babelingua I love the phrase "ionizing vowel".

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Isn't that the trope, though? That the voice of Yaweh, and possibly angels, kills mortals when they hear it? Maybe this is why!

  • @AgmaSchwa
    @AgmaSchwa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4887

    I have no regrets for anything I have caused

    • @taimer_322
      @taimer_322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +399

      Agma balls

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Thank u for further enhancing the community

    • @cyberneticsquid
      @cyberneticsquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I have regrets

    • @xayax7920
      @xayax7920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Fung Schwa

    • @kosherre6243
      @kosherre6243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It come wit egg schwuhh, it come wit egg schwuuuh

  • @verylostdoommarauder
    @verylostdoommarauder ปีที่แล้ว +856

    I love that this incorporated the fact that the Seraphim are constantly singing praises and made it a grammatical feature.

    • @katiekawaii
      @katiekawaii ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It's brilliant.

    • @Watchmanskey
      @Watchmanskey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      And that there's a demonic "dialect" cursing off blasphemies

  • @TennoSkoom
    @TennoSkoom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    God: "Hey, Seraphim, how has your day been?"
    Seraphim: **proceeds to nuke every living thing in 10 kilometers radius with ionizing radiation while furiously praying in Greek**

    • @WolfGeek64
      @WolfGeek64 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Keep in mind that the true essence of God is more powerful than that. No wonder people believe the Abrahamic God to be a sun deity.

  • @Яна-мамба
    @Яна-мамба 2 ปีที่แล้ว +883

    I now understand why all those people in the Bible screamed in terror when they saw an angel. As a fellow linguist this still hurt. Badly.

    • @pota2s561
      @pota2s561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      It might be the ionizing blasts not gonna lie

  • @novaace2474
    @novaace2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3451

    As a native Hebrew speaker, I am proud to say that I could read about 3 of the words that you put on screen, this is truly a feat of human engineering.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +798

      My original plan had been to take bible verses in biblical hebrew and divide them into words, but the addition of pro-phrases meant that it didn't work anymore. Rather than scrap the entire project, I just crammed consonants together such that they'd add up to the right values.
      I'm glad that a native Hebrew speaker likes the video! It's a truly beautiful language, and I do apologize that I couldn't give it the spotlight like it deserves

    • @asedonii-chan8466
      @asedonii-chan8466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Vas juden?

    • @novaace2474
      @novaace2474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      @@asedonii-chan8466 ‏כן, אני יהודי

    • @DdumbaStyle
      @DdumbaStyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@novaace2474 Save the Palestine

    • @zerop4110
      @zerop4110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@novaace2474 Nice

  • @vipza72130
    @vipza72130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2756

    This is hellllll, I'm very impressed you didn't lose your mind in the exercise ...

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +636

      Bold assumption

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      @Babelingua did u work out the dialect for fallen angels? Cause a proper blasphemous tounge would be amazing

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +457

      @@pacotaco1246 nah, but I can probably come up with something real quick in the comments.
      It's worth noting that these changes make this dialect quite literally sinful to speak (especially the mandatory writing of god's name)
      -everything is backwards. If you play a sentence in reverse, it will sound almost identical to Seraphim (excluding the other dialectal differences listed below)
      -all vowel phonemes except 1, 3, 15, and 16 must be a name of God, not just any ol' Hebrew string. Vowels 15 and 16 must be written in incorrect notation as to spell the name of god
      - 613 -> 666, 400 -> 420 ("sound" changes)
      -no more distinction between 6 and 7 (now there's just 6)
      -no more distinction between 777 and 666 (now just 666)
      -nominative case is now marked using honorifics. Depending on the microsyntactic subject's rank in the hierarchy of hell, it would receive a different honorific (or dishonorific) title
      -the benecactive transitivizer is lost
      -phonemic brightness is replaced with phonemic bleeding (low ocular bleeding, high ocular bleeding, and anal bleeding). Some older regional dialects still have allophonic brightness and/or heat, though
      -pro-phrases are only requisite at the end of a macro-word, but word order is stricter
      -the three tense voices sing eternal blasphemy, not prayer.
      -devils now distinguish present (Latin blasphemy) and future (anything in French), although especially craft academic devils known to deal with mortals will often mark the future tense using other languages, including conlangs (Mephistopheles has been observed blaspheming in Kay(f)bop(t) )

    • @annwan9557
      @annwan9557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      @@babelingua the idea of constant blasphemy in Kay(f)bop(t) is just hilarious to think about

    • @word6344
      @word6344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      @@babelinguaConsidering there's an esoteric programming language named Malebolge after one of the circles of Hell, I bet some devil uses that as their future tense marker of choice

  • @Dracheneks
    @Dracheneks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +614

    Be not afraid?? BE NOT AFRAID???

    • @XavierVB
      @XavierVB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      *BE AFRAID*

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      CORRECT. BE NOT AFRAID.

    • @terminator572
      @terminator572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Hey, he who has no sin has no fear

    • @NuniaBiznaz
      @NuniaBiznaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@terminator572 Sure is convenient that there is no man without sin.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@XavierVB *BE **_VERY_** AFRAID*

  • @babelingua
    @babelingua  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    After much request, I have re-listed this video. I wish to note, however, that my understanding of syntax / theoretical linguistics has changed significantly. I urge the viewer to enjoy the video as a piece of entertainment while recognizing that the underpinning assumptions may be flawed. However, I do heavily encourage open theoretical discussion, as well as spinoff dialects.

    • @ladripper47874
      @ladripper47874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you for publicating the Video again! It is indeed very entertaining (especially for someone who isn't a linguist, like me)
      I hope that in the future you can make conlangs (if that still interests you) with you furthered knowledge that are even more convoluted (if that's also a thing that's enjoy able for you)
      If not then you can take These words as encouragement for you other projects, whatever they may be

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolute legend! Hey, I’m making the video. “hark, the biblically accurate angels sing.” Lol

    • @oddbirdMusic
      @oddbirdMusic หลายเดือนก่อน

      It deserves to stay up, it's a good time! Feel free to make other takes on the concept someday if it pleases you, but, it's lovely as is

  • @Annokh
    @Annokh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +997

    You're kind of a person who can put Lovecraft's "indescribable" everything into words.

    • @fardareismai4495
      @fardareismai4495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Yup yup, linguists are armed with Syntax Trees and the IPA and can describe anything. We don't judge any varieties of language!

    • @houselemuellan8756
      @houselemuellan8756 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      To look into the face of the Lord and hear His voice, one must first go mad. Madder than the prophet of the eldritch gods

    • @itar10n
      @itar10n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's like the reason that no one can pronounce the names of the Old Ones properly. Our tongues are too short, and we have the wrong number of jaws.

  • @DarkSnideoftheRainbow
    @DarkSnideoftheRainbow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2555

    The moment you introduced the idea of levels of brightness altering vowels I realized the masterpiece this language was. It opened my eyes to how truly cursed conlangs can become by using fundamental forces of nature to encode information. Gravitational fluctuations? Magnetic field modulation? Weak nuclear decay? The boundaries to how inscrutable a language can become have been lifted from my eyes.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +612

      Oh God! I hope this contest becomes an annual thing so we can see those horrifying creations

    • @xpehkto
      @xpehkto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      This reminds me about conditional modifiers in Dragon Poker

    • @FloatingOer
      @FloatingOer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      Don't forget eye movements, the angel got a lot of eyes, are they blinking in a specific order? How fast do they blink?

    • @pacotaco1246
      @pacotaco1246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oh yeah I could work some of those concepts into a language pretty easily. Only if I found out about this contest before the deadline

    • @kalenwilliams6633
      @kalenwilliams6633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Why limit yourself to forces that exist in the observable universe? Also, consider the language God as the creator could use. Encoding grammar and syntax into created matter with its particles' individual, atomic, molecular, and bulk properties. There's also the state of the spacetime that matter inhabits itself, level of curvature due to gravity and expansion/contraction rate. Cosmic background radiation, etc. A language that requires Feynman diagrams to communicate.

  • @LordDarkhelm
    @LordDarkhelm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1497

    For reference, I have literally no linguistics experience before this, making the process of the language's creation feel like I was watching some sort of eldritch ritual. But I loved it, especially since my mother is a linguistics bachelors. Glad this randomly was recommended to me.

    • @mr.vertical3428
      @mr.vertical3428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Same except for the mom part

    • @zanderwohl
      @zanderwohl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      As someone who does know a thing or two, this is still a genuinely unhinged endeavor even if you can follow it

    • @barry3351
      @barry3351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice name

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      show this to ur mom

    • @LordDarkhelm
      @LordDarkhelm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theodoric7335 Already have. Lol

  • @KorbentMarksman
    @KorbentMarksman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +956

    I know this is meant to be a cursed semi-joke but this is actually really helpful inspiration for the aliens I'm working on who have EIGHT vocal tracts.

    • @gamie99
      @gamie99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      I am now both very intrigued and very scared what do these things look like

    • @KorbentMarksman
      @KorbentMarksman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@gamie99 Sort of like eight foot long mantis shrimps

    • @gamie99
      @gamie99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@KorbentMarksman Ah. How lovely

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@KorbentMarksman so basically just the prawns from district 9?

    • @KorbentMarksman
      @KorbentMarksman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@wolfetteplays8894 no, they're not bipedal

  • @i2n2z
    @i2n2z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +880

    man talked to god and asked them about the language of angels just to make a video about it
    true sigma grindset

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +335

      The struggles of a field linguist

    • @cmyk8964
      @cmyk8964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      true *angma schwa grindset

    • @joeyuzwa891
      @joeyuzwa891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Him*

    • @i2n2z
      @i2n2z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      God made man and woman in their image, implying God is non-binary/intersex. Stay mad.

    • @cyberneticsquid
      @cyberneticsquid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@joeyuzwa891 why does god need to be gendered

  • @Throckmorpheus
    @Throckmorpheus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    in most conlangs having emojis in your pronounciation keys would be one of the more cursed aspects of the language and yet here you're already so deep into multiple vocal tracts and 4D grammar by that point that it doesn't even register as odd

  • @ИванЯгин
    @ИванЯгин ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Oh my, give it to a professional choir and composer to record and it actually can shift from an eldritch cacophony to a truly beautiful and sublime encounter.

    • @leobuana7430
      @leobuana7430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A single word sound like a whole chorus

  • @IONATVS
    @IONATVS ปีที่แล้ว +66

    For Flavor, I’d name the voices Sopranissimo (Inhumanly High/Possibly Ultrasonic Genderless Voice), Soprano (High Feminine Voice), Contralto (Low Feminine Voice), Treble (Androgynous Child Voice) Tenor (High Masculine Voice), Bass (Low Masculine Voice), and Contrabass (ie Inhumanly Low/possibly Infrasonic Genderless Voice), instead of simply numbering them. And give some kind of significance to which are speaking and which are singing…

  • @lukasshifflett2290
    @lukasshifflett2290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    This is the most blursed thing I've seen in a while and I love it.
    Almost makes me want to learn the language and write some insane musical piece in five languages at once.

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yes please

    • @schrodingerskatze4308
      @schrodingerskatze4308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do it.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      I didn't coin any vocab outside of what's in the video, but if you manage to come up with something I'll definitely share it

    • @suomeaboo
      @suomeaboo ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@stephenweigel Didn't expect to see you here! I've ran into your comments in the most unexpected videos; seems like we're into similar regions of TH-cam.

    • @t0rya
      @t0rya ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Even a very short children song would be insane to pull off any guy who would actually do it has all of my respect

  • @EldhjaertaZ
    @EldhjaertaZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +710

    This is great, cursed, but great. The way you use numerology and prayer in this language is just the right kind of mad.
    I am currently studying biblical hebrew. And I must say that I like the inclusion of Constructus and Absolutus, I am missing some more verb stems. Having actual temporal tenses feels a bit wrong, I mean, the angels and God in the first sphere exist outside of time, no? With the three extra mouthes, it sorta feels like the sphere is supposed to be in past, present, and future always, rather than outside time as a whole. I guess it comes down to the simple question "Is God pantemporal, supratemporal, or transtemporal?". As a theologian, answering that question is at least easier than learning this cursed con-lang. Great vid!

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      Oooh a theologian! You bring up some awesome points that I hadn't even considered -- there seems to be a lot of complexity behind these questions of time and the supernatural. My thought process was that the tense would mostly be used for discussing earthly events: it'd allow an angel to refer to events relative to the subject's specific point in time. It does pose a problem for supernatural subjects, though. As you observed, you can't mark tense relative to the subject if the subject exists outside of time. In those scenarios, I assume the angels would use the Gnomic marking (which says that something's a general truth, like "fish swim" and "birds fly").
      Thank you for your comment! I hope you enjoyed the video despite my lack of theological prowess!

    • @EldhjaertaZ
      @EldhjaertaZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@babelingua Oh the video was excellent. I subscribed imediately.
      Interesting, using the subject as the base for tense, that does make sense and seems fittingly cool. I can't help but feel like the gnomic would become the norm, making temporal markings fairly rare. If one speaks of God a lot, which I'd imagine angels to do, having to speak in a very diferent way when reffering to subjects bound by time feels... unnatural (though that is far from inappropriate in this context). I imagine that a speaker of this language would express themselves using the gnomic aspect in almost all communication, building sentences with infinitives as subject for example.
      The easy thing to do may be to simply apply a tense with relevant words in Constructus, having the tense either as an affix or separate word. E.g. "Being[negation; constructus] (present tense marker) affraid" = "You should not currently be affraid", if that way of writing makes sense (I'm no linguist). Maybe that's what you already had in mind, but non-linearly with the three mouths taking care of tense at the same time as all else is spoken?

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@EldhjaertaZ I did not have that in mind, but it's a good idea! If the gnomic is used in all contexts, a tense distinction would likely evolve out of use entirely. Then, the three extra voices would just be used for non-linguistics purposes.
      Your point about using other grammatical systems to encode tense when absolutely necessary is really insightful: it mirrors how grammatical markers evolve in the first place

    • @jocylinfrancis930
      @jocylinfrancis930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@babelingua Which could mean various dialects.
      Basically, if God engineered (?) them with temporal markings but then they forgot because they didn’t speak to anyone besides angels they would have to, like was said, make specific markers.
      Honestly, I’d probably be like that originally. But here’s a bit of an issue: If angels are timeless, how exactly do they interact? Ok, so let’s say that an Angel can move across the temporal axis at will like you stated. Well, how does their memory work? Do they remember everything on their timeline?
      If so, there’s two options: Infinite timelines and finite timelines. In the case of infinite timelines (which is probably the case since angels are immortal), the Angel could remember everything (at least in theory) because of the whole infinite probability issues thing. But why would angels communicate then? Well, basing angelic memories on human ones, memories are fresher closer to the time they took place & how important they are. Adapting it, angels would only have “closer” memories with “important” ones being metaphorical mountains. This means that angels would have to talk and not remember literally everything instead.
      Meaning that time would have meaning, but past and future would be equivalent. I’m not a linguist, but this would probably be where the time tenses are. Probably would go in order radiating out from the angel’s “present” with present, close, far, and very far.
      Oh, but this gets worse. Firstly, the Atium problem. Named after the magic metal from Mistborn, the Atium Problem deals with two future-seers interacting. Basically, 1 responds to 2’s future which is determined by 1’s response to 2’s which is . . . And so on. It makes an indecipherable temporal mess, a knot of causality. Honestly, there’d probably be an educate to minimize this for sanity reasons. Who knows, it could make time loops or something WHICH BOTH ANGELS WOULD REMEMBER AND INTERACT WITH.
      . . .
      And then there’s Many Worlds Quantum Mechanics which makes alternate timelines, effectively turning each angel present into a point with radiating layers of recollection, each interacting with each other to compensate for the memories they don’t have access to yet.
      . . .
      Well, at least I now understand a fraction of what the god of the To the Stars feels like (except that she remembers everything perfectly, probably, which only makes things easier because she doesn’t have to talk to people to do stuff. And the cycling through stages of development during conversations is kinda cool. This probably has something to do with the whole everything=nothing thing)
      . . .

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jocylinfrancis930 Hold on, which "To the Stars" are you talking about? Because I was not expecting to see a reference to it and The Goddess here.

  • @RandomProduct
    @RandomProduct 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You thought you could hide the video, you fool, but Agma Schwa's video has this url right on screen
    Anyway I'm using your demonstration audio as a sample of what my terrifying celestial entity sounds like in my TTRPG campaign, so thanks for making this! Absolutely incredible.

    • @SIGJNF
      @SIGJNF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      literally me

  • @arnauvhs612
    @arnauvhs612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    Keep this level of cafeine you are improving your videos at a giant steps

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Can you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean by "level of caffeine," since I didn't drink any more coffee than usual while making this video

    • @arnauvhs612
      @arnauvhs612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I'm sorry, my mother tongue is Catalan and I may not have expressed myself well. These videos feel as if you had taken extra caffeine both with the oral intention and with the editing of your doll, it gives him a very cool dynamism and at the same time a clear intention, I am very dyslexic and I really enjoyed this video, without understanding almost anything about how you did it.
      Keep going and you'll go far.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@arnauvhs612 you communicated perfectly fine! I just didn't understand the idiom, but now it makes sense! So you're saying that confusing frantic videos are more entertaining?

    • @arnauvhs612
      @arnauvhs612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@babelingua Rather, if you put so much passion into it and look for an intention (as in this case I am defining it as "extra caffeine", and in other videos it could be another, but with a narrative sense) even if the video is gibberish for non-philologists It will entertain them, like my self did.
      Keep growing man, you are doing really great.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@arnauvhs612 thanks a ton! I'm notoriously bad at figuring out the kind of stuff people want to watch, so constructive feedback like this is greatly appreciated

  • @gatyunla
    @gatyunla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    I mean this in the absolute most positive way I can: what the fuck. Seriously, I love it. Couldn't follow even half the explanation, but I love the level of thought that went into it and the use of prayers in different languages as a means to mark tense. Nonhuman conlangs in general make a lot of interesting room for grammatical weirdness, so it's great to see someone explore it in such an absolutely convoluted but worldbuilding (for lack of a better term) sort of way.

    • @michaelcherokee8906
      @michaelcherokee8906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I understood absolutely none of any of the non-grammar linguistics terms. Not that I would expect to, I take a VERY instinctive approach to language learning, I dont study the theoretical side at all.

  • @soulrenvods
    @soulrenvods 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "Hey, I'm pretty drunk but sorta understand conlangs! This'll be a cool video to check out"
    Help.

  • @Kokoamaya935
    @Kokoamaya935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I'm not comfortable with the energy we've created in the studio today

  • @jonaw.2153
    @jonaw.2153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +308

    First video and wow: You've managed to beautifully capture the incomprehensibility of the Divine word as described in the Bible. My brain is fried, much like what would happen if an actual Angel would speak to me. Good job.
    Also love the idea that fallen Angels would sing blasphemy instead of praise. It just makes so much sense.

  • @drachma7434
    @drachma7434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like the idea that the angels language is so complicated so that they have to plan everything they say caregully, sometimes raking hours or days before saying sentences, with only extremely intelligent or important angels speaking freely or frequently

  • @A-Pinecone
    @A-Pinecone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I can barely wrap my head around linguistics, this both intrigues and terrifies me. It's even funnier, because the end example unironically sounds like how you'd actually imagine angels sound like, unnerving, yet oddly beautiful, and like hearing ten voices at once.

  • @WaveOfDestiny
    @WaveOfDestiny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    There needs to be a manga/anime where a fallen seraphim starts living inside a guy and gives him massive superpowers to hunt demons and corrupt angels and this language gotta be in it in some way.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      If you ever write something like that HMU for language stuff

  • @jem5636
    @jem5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    So I definitely did not understand everything, but I'm really liking the concept of a language where the very syllables you use are words unto themselves, allowing you to essentially make multiple statements at once. Brilliant.

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Church of Asriel holy text does that. Soft A = Grass, hard A = Prayer, long f = flower, K trill = Death, Emphasized S = Cigarette, soft e = baby goat. Yeah, it’s Batshit insane, but I spend a lot of time around junkies so I got used to it after a while

    • @dontlizten
      @dontlizten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@wolfetteplays8894 church of asrial?

    • @lucasgamerbr2774
      @lucasgamerbr2774 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@wolfetteplays8894Undertale Church real!?

    • @wolfetteplays8894
      @wolfetteplays8894 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed@@lucasgamerbr2774

  • @sophiatrocentraisin
    @sophiatrocentraisin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    It's always reassuring to know someone is more deranged than me. Thank you for this beautiful masterpiece

  • @bluetannery1527
    @bluetannery1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    dude what the FUCK. this is so high-effort. i love it

  • @sharksuperiority9736
    @sharksuperiority9736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The idea of developing a conlang for a speaker with more than one voice is really cool, and I love the brightness feature as a sort of body language thing
    But having literal time travel be a linguistic feature is absolutely insane and I love it

  • @LexisLang
    @LexisLang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +277

    This is amazing. Just when you think you're starting to understand a bit of it, along comes the true reality of this language like a tonne of bricks. I feel like I maybe got the general gist, but that may just be an illusion. Might need to rewatch to check. Great work - well done!

    • @itar10n
      @itar10n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The greatest aspect of this conlang, in my opinion, is that it's constructed from other languages. Therefore, a truly angelic mind using this language could hold multiple concurrent conversations simultaneously in each language as well as with another angel in this meta language.

  • @YBthree
    @YBthree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I got recommended this video randomly. I know nothing about linguistics. I LOVED this video. The way you speak makes me feel like I am being held in hostage and in front of me is a blackboard over which your slightly unsettling avatar is wildly gesturing

  • @creamCarnivalJones1234
    @creamCarnivalJones1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Aw sweet! Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!

  • @noshame2389
    @noshame2389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    God this video makes the elementary schooler in me who excelled at grammar and language charts explode in a way I haven't felt in decades

  • @wonderland4267
    @wonderland4267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    “phonemic blasphemy” is the modern-day “phonemic hat”

    • @davidvelasco4423
      @davidvelasco4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The two can actually be one and the same.

  • @jayelyon3078
    @jayelyon3078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I showed this to my mother and she said aside from needing 7 mouths to speak it, you need 14 ears to properly comprehend it

  • @worldweaver2691
    @worldweaver2691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    now I want A Cruel Angel's Thesis in this.

  • @Quiltfish
    @Quiltfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Not gonna comment on the actual conlanging, I value what little sanity I have, but gotta say I love your little avatar guy. He looks like if the little guys from tale foundry wanted to eat my thoughts.

  • @treysullens9989
    @treysullens9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    He gave a warning for newcomers, I was the newcomer. This video was fantastic

  • @DrKleMENGIR
    @DrKleMENGIR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    you know you've snorted too much angel dust when you start deciphering their language like a madman

  • @cupcakejack7375
    @cupcakejack7375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Frantic chaotic yet entirely logical rambling from very intelligent people makes the BEST youtube videos frfr

  • @festerburg87
    @festerburg87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    This is amazing. Made me think of 1 Cor. 13:1- "If I speak in the tongues of mortals and or angels, but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal." Great work!

    • @Nightriser271828
      @Nightriser271828 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sounds like that Thrice song. "I speak in many tongues with many men/Argue with angels and I always win/But I don't know the first thing about love."

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nightriser271828 Gosh, between the thing written 2000 years ago and the one written in the last decade, it's gotta be the latter that was the inspiration. Non-linear timelines are fun.

  • @SkellyOfJudgment
    @SkellyOfJudgment 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think this is the most well thought out conlang ever created. I have no clue how this works, but it is something of unbelievable proportions.

  • @elliwesishawkins4799
    @elliwesishawkins4799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I could listen to the “demonstration” part of this all day it’s absolutely mesmerizing. The details? Atrocious. The final sound? Angelic.

    • @scoutintime
      @scoutintime ปีที่แล้ว +8

      well we would certainly hope it's angelic

    • @Somerandomjingleberry
      @Somerandomjingleberry ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I guess you could say that despite the result being divine, the--
      devil's in the details

  • @najmaht.a.1314
    @najmaht.a.1314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    omg the multiple vocal tracts bcs the biblically accurate angels have a billion eyes implying they might have multiple heads as well is insane I LOVE IT

  • @flourtoast
    @flourtoast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wow, this conlang is so faithful to the source material that I could feel myself going insane just from trying to understand how it works!

  • @blackheart2728
    @blackheart2728 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The whole "The end of word A agrees with the beginning of word B. So they can be shuffled around and the listener still knows what the sentence means" thing is exactly something my conlang does. The position of words before others to increase the importance of its morphemes also.
    I was legit scared I was getting called out for a while here :D
    Great vid!

  • @AuraSight24
    @AuraSight24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The auditory aesthetics of the final product are incredibly fitting
    I'm in love with the concept of a language that requires multiple simultaneous voices to be spoken

  • @SaHaRaSquad
    @SaHaRaSquad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This is definitely one of the languages ever made.
    I have no idea what anything in this video means but it's also somehow fascinating and I think we need more crazy languages like this in alien movies.

  • @watcher314159
    @watcher314159 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is one of a very few languages that takes seriously, on a deep grammatical level, the ability to transcend linear time. Including my own cloŋ, I'm aware of perhaps half a dozen that even make an effort, with only NLWS joining us in having appreciable development I'm aware of. And no wonder, because such grammatical systems are insanely hard to conceptualize even on an abstract level, never mind actually make; you have my undying respect.
    Even though the temporal physics our respective languages work within are very different, I find it really interesting that you also chose to use multiple simultaneous voices to define the structure of the parse tree. My own approach was more based on overtones and subharmonics rather than extra vocal tracts, but I can very much see at even a cursory glance the same sort of thought process that I used.
    Could I perchance get a link to more thorough documentation than was able to make it into the video? No worries if not; my own documentation is borderline unusable even for my own eyes.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Alas, there is no further documentation. Making this video alone was a nightmare, and I don't have the energy to write this up in LaTeX. Glad you appreciate it tho, and it sounds like you've got quite the monstrous language yourself!

  • @quel2324
    @quel2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I didn't see any other videos for the contest but I'll be surprised if any reach this level of cursedness. Congratulations on this, even if you don't win it's a huge job.

  • @Baldeaglefacts
    @Baldeaglefacts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I need just the demonstration part to be its own video that I can put on loop, to play for my d&d players next time they meet an angel.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I might record a satanic demo this weekend (if I have time). If so, I'll release them both as separate, loopable videos

    • @benrex7775
      @benrex7775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@babelingua I think there would still be interest if you find time.

  • @ZelphTheWebmancer
    @ZelphTheWebmancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I don't know anything of conlangs and english not being my native language so watching this video feels like a regular human trying to understand heavenly language. Very immersive.

  • @spacecakes9367
    @spacecakes9367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Never have I been so utterly amazed… yet so incomprehensibly confused. Great job!

  • @mell1fera
    @mell1fera 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I understood nothing yet this video is all I can think about. thank you. I'm so happy this exists.

  • @piousminion7822
    @piousminion7822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What have I done to the TH-cam algorithm to deserve this madness of a recommended video? Only it and I know.

  • @jon...5324
    @jon...5324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was more than my mortal mind could comprehend

  • @minuspi8372
    @minuspi8372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm new and I agree with everyone else here that the language is definitely one of the languages of all time, but I moreso want to say that I LOVE your art style

  • @cjapplebaum6423
    @cjapplebaum6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You: "I'm so sorry to any new subscribers, most of the stuff I make isn't this horribly cursed"
    Me, a Jewish linguist who was cackling with glee throughout this entire video: "Damn, I was kinda hoping for more of this stuff"
    Seriously, though. This is unhinged and brilliant. You're almost making me want to write some actually grammatically correct biblical Hebrew for this translation instead of just using random words with the correct gematria... almost. Maybe.

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooooooh that sounds like a very hard task! But if you do decide to do it, I'll gladly point people towards your work. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @wiktorszymczak4760
    @wiktorszymczak4760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I truely believe that trying to learn Seraphim would make my eyes bleed and if i succed for even a heartbeat ill die immediately

  • @fariesz6786
    @fariesz6786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "i didn't make a cursed conlang, i made a blesséd one 😈"
    aaaaaand you have my attention mr

    • @fariesz6786
      @fariesz6786 ปีที่แล้ว

      addendum after i watched it:
      worth it; and you have a new subscriber

  • @haydenmaines5905
    @haydenmaines5905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    This is amazing. I definitely want to play with the 4D aspect, perhaps as a language for the TARDIS or used by Gallifreyans - or using the multiple voices for an alien species or hivemind

  • @Hibbyhubby
    @Hibbyhubby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    this video is so good, your avatar is perfect too, i totally respect doing what makes you happy without pushing endless videos out, but im surprised by such high quality and entertaining content. bless

  • @cmyk8964
    @cmyk8964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “It’s an easy fix, but it’s cursed, so I’m keepin’ it”

  • @_Acala
    @_Acala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As someone who's navajo, I was really surprised and excited when I saw you use our language as an example. I'm glad I stumbled upon this nightmare of a video and am definitely subscribing lol

  • @rath60
    @rath60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this. I think that choosing to make the language more complex s that it allowed the angles to praise god even as they spoke rather than to covey more meaning to be amazing.

  • @hochelaga
    @hochelaga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love linguistic deep dives like this. Very nice video!

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A comment from Hochelaga?? I really like your channel - keep making great stuff!

  • @altondehaan4919
    @altondehaan4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This video is the absolute perfect mix of utterly cursed and utterly fascinating. Love it!

  • @2chrono2
    @2chrono2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The intro to this video made me subscribe before the video even hit 2 minutes. I have no idea what I'm getting into, how I got here, who you are, or who Agma Schwa is, but man I'm in for a treat.

  • @tasdude3227
    @tasdude3227 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THIS IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLE!!
    To Build an accurate language is one thing but creating an actual system for extra-dimensional sacred beings is another one, and man you nailed it!
    This seems so otherworldly and incomprehensible while retaining actual sense and ties to angelical lore etc.
    This is more like worldbuilding than an actual language.
    One thing to me is obscure tho.... Why the language is so slow to carry the meaning if the angels would be an higher being?

    • @SanzuRiver
      @SanzuRiver 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not instantaneous to a native seraphim speaker?

  • @xenomorph6599
    @xenomorph6599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Gotta give him a shout out for speaking and writing the entire video in seraphim because i have no idea wtf i just witnessed
    The angels in heaven rn: How did he figure it out 👁👁👁👄👄👄👄👄👄👄👁👁👁

  • @randomtree7295
    @randomtree7295 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your little character is so uniquely off putting and i love that

  • @jirehornelastavera3642
    @jirehornelastavera3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For a first time viewer, but have gone to seminary and still love theology, this video was brilliant. I never even realized how wild languages could get, but honestly, absolutely beautiful. Subscribed!

  • @Ondohir
    @Ondohir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am going to learn to speak this

    • @pas-giaw6055
      @pas-giaw6055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      _In sanctis nominis patris filiumque_

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You don’t have enough eyes.

    • @bill-clintongaming
      @bill-clintongaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Godspeed

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Timmy it's your turn to present yourself to the class"
      *walks out the door*
      *walks back in three days later*
      *plugs USB drive into the classroom computer*
      *plays highly edited recorded video with seven versions of himself singing*
      *projector bursts into flame from the impossible luminosity values*

  • @Wizard_Pepsi
    @Wizard_Pepsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Netflix subtitles: *Aggressive chanting*

  • @Linguae_Music
    @Linguae_Music ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I met a thingy that was sort of like a throne when i smoked DMT and it showed me all this stuff through this kind of emotional information exchange that happened between our consciousness, something that provided the function of language... but was not actually language. That i cant translate into language.
    It was heccin neato :O
    It had to do with the nature of emergence and the primordial construct that exists beneath it and how everything ties together... and in that moment i understood it. But, since i cannot express it with language, i cant comprehend what it meant while my brain connections are in their mundane configuration. I can only provide hollow analogies with no meaningful content. :(
    Its very strange.
    Idk if i should believe them, it might be bit fishy :p
    It's weird having a brain!

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Me:(makes an overly complicated conlang to mess with a linguistics friend)
      Commentors: "I smoked DMT and exchanged consciousness with a primordial being that changed my entire perception of reality in a way I can never express in language. Neato-burrito"
      In seriousness, that sounds like quite the experience! It is, indeed, weird to have a brain (or, rather, to be a brain)

  • @TheDoh007
    @TheDoh007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don't really comprehend this but i intend to learn more about conlangs!
    This has also given me some new inspiration for formal linguistics

  • @pythania
    @pythania 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!! There's a kind of trance I found myself in during the spoken segment.

  • @coryellsworth9705
    @coryellsworth9705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a very moderate understanding of Linguistics so I was able to follow pretty much all the concepts you discussed to a tee, but I found myself laughing at both the creativity and the absurdity of every turn of your creation. Great concept and amazing presentation, well done!

  • @triangulartriangle
    @triangulartriangle ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i like to imagine that an angel speaking would immediately be translated in a human's brain
    imagine an angel appearing and telling you "be not afraid" in this language and somehow you can understand it

  • @rhsmn2334
    @rhsmn2334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is incredibly cursed, i had to pause the video several times just to wrap my head around the sheer enormity of some concepts here

  • @Wsnewname
    @Wsnewname 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seraph: BE NOT AFRAID
    Geiger counter: !!

  • @notoriouswhitemoth
    @notoriouswhitemoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    ... am I supposed to feel like I understood the example better than the explanation?

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This video isn't particularly understandable, so if you understood any of it you're on the right track

    • @bacicinvatteneaca
      @bacicinvatteneaca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@babelingua or maybe on the wrong track

  • @andcrafter4790
    @andcrafter4790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TH-cam recently started recommending me videos from this con-lang contest and so far yours is my favorite

  • @dunklyn5798
    @dunklyn5798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know nothing of linguistics and this is all entirely alien to me. I understand no more of what he is explaining while he is formulating the language than I do of what the demonstrations are saying at the end of the video. Thank you for opening my eyes to an entirely new side of what people have created -- even with as little knowledge as I have on the topic I can tell you are extremely talented. Keep up the good work. :)

  • @polytheydron
    @polytheydron ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is utterly brain melting in the best possible way and I kept waiting for you to show different trees on the same screen arranged symmetrically so they look like wings

  • @brianburrows6551
    @brianburrows6551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Watching this felt like one hell of a fever dream. Completely incomprehensible and yet so intriguing. New subscriber baby!

  • @biggocelot123
    @biggocelot123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After watching this video I have concluded:
    1. I have no fucking clue how a language works
    2. I have no fucking clue what this video was even about
    3. I enjoyed the entirety of it

  • @thezipcreator
    @thezipcreator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wasn't even aware that this contest was a thing until youtube decided to put this in my recommendations

  • @tancredi7106
    @tancredi7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can’t believe you just have 2050 subs, you will (at least you should) blow up soon my friend 😍❤🙏

  • @hexlart8481
    @hexlart8481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is my first video here and I feel my brain melting out my ears. Subscribed.

  • @asherael
    @asherael 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the idea that rather than coming naturally to angels, this mode of speech and thought is massively oppressive to them too, and it's part of keeping them so occupied with basic speech, thought, and worship that they cannot think enough to rebel again

  • @rath60
    @rath60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you imagine implementing puns, rhetoric where you sound more convincing depending on the beauty of the prayers that make up your phonemes. Or perhaps groups that avoid multiples of the tetragram so they use the nearest value to that multiple. Extra points if they also avoid modular collisions.

  • @MySerpentine
    @MySerpentine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There need to be more highly alien conlangs like this.

  • @KabirHart
    @KabirHart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I need to take a university level course to understand this

    • @babelingua
      @babelingua  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm working on my master's and I still don't understand the hell I've created. If you want some extra linguistics education, though, Andrew Carnie has a great series on syntax that walks you through all the details from a very basic level.

  • @YaburuRunyaru
    @YaburuRunyaru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does this have to be the first video of his I find? The first thing I'm told is that he's sorry for what I'm about to go through. And I believe him. But I am nothing if not willing to suffer for knowledge that I am way too out of my depth for. Let it begin.
    Edit: I'm at the 5 min mark. My current goal is to binge as many videos as possible, yours or otherwise, to the point where I can understand this. Not begin to understand, but truly understand. I'm taking this as seriously as a college course, and so help me, if this takes me three months of active studying and note-taking to accomplish, THEN I SHALL DO IT.

  • @MarshallBurke-vg5we
    @MarshallBurke-vg5we 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm not a linguist or whatever this is but I do believe he's right with biblical aramaic, greek, latin, Hebrew stuff.
    But he is missing one thing Enochian, the occult constructed language said by its originators to have been received from angels recorded in the private journals of John Dee and his colleague Edward Kelley in late 16th-century England. Kelley was a scryer who worked with Dee in his magical investigations. The language is integral to the practice of Enochian magic.
    (Maybe you can shove it in a non euclidean 5D way?)
    P.S. I don't mean to be a snobby um actually person, I really do like this video brilliant work to you. 🎉🎉🎉🎉
    Feel free to comment and critique.

    • @suruxstrawde8322
      @suruxstrawde8322 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, it's pretty clear the point of this project for him was to construct a hypothetical language based on hypothetical anatomical rules.
      .
      Even though realistically, angels can probably all instantly learn and speak any language given they operate as infinitely powerful generalist drones.