Beginners Guide to SimRacing hardware and 5 mistakes to AVOID
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- If you’re new to SimRacing or you have already just started your journey it can seem like a minefield when it comes to what equipment to buy and when.
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Unless you have unlimited amounts of money you’ll likely start with one or two pieces and then upgrade from there.
In this video I’ll be talking about what kit to buy and when and what to not buy and why. I’ll also be explaining the 5 mistakes I made when starting out which ended up being quite costly and left me with kit I wasn’t using.
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00:00 Introduction
02:17 Pedals
03:04 Mistake #1
03:58 SimRig
04:37 Mistake #2
06:05 Displays
06:31 Mistake #3
07:27 Mistake #4
08:22 Wheelbase
08:55 Mistake #5 - เกม
Let me know where you are in your SimRacing journey. Are you just starting out, looking to buy your first piece of kit or do you already have kit and are now looking to upgrade 🙏🏻
I started about 3 months ago, got an r9 with crp pedals and an aluminium rig. Im about to get 3 displays, currently mostly in vr. (pc and vr headset i had before)
Nice wheel base. 👍🏻 Love the Moza kit. Which rig did you buy?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent I planned and build my own aluminium rig :)
Oh wow! That's awesome 👍🏻
Just bought a G923 and a shifter. Then bought a cheap but functional stand. It all feels really good in iRacing. I already have a VR capable PC, so I'll try VR soon. All I can say is it's way better than a controller!
im sorry but what is with the sporadic subtitles, they don't add anything of value to the video and are just distracting imo
fr just random words
Ok thanks to all who have mentioned this. Would you prefer none or less? At the end of the day it's about your experience so I will take this onboard 🙏🏻
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent please do no subtitles next time, youtube auto generated ones are okish if really needed.
was thinking the same when these words distracted me.
otherwise great video!
@thesimracingshaolinstudent I don't see the big deal with your subtitles, you can leave them off, or you can put your own subtitles rather than using YTs. What everyone is complaining about to me is baseless.
Thank you very much 🙏 I really appreciate the feedback and you taking your time to give it. 👍🏻
good call on the direct drive my friends belt drive feels like im driving with worn out tie rods
I’m just over a years time I have gone far down the sim racing rabbit hole. What started as looking to get a g920 after playing my nephews set up
Quickly escalated to my first set up of a csl dd with boost kit, v3 pedals mounted to my desk and a diy base for the seat and pedals. Decided to upgrade from my old 24” 1080 monitor to a 32” 2K. That led to an upgrade to the pc which escalated real fast, went to a sim center and that led to adding two more monitors for triples. Which led to a 4090. Full aluminum profile rig was in there as well as the csl was already flexing my professional desk. Pedals were first to go as a set of sprints came available. Then Black Friday led to a dd2. Most recently decided to get carried away and jump up to triple 48” oleds. Most racing I do only requires 2 pedals and the paddle shift. But getting into drifting and finally set up my shifter and picked up a handbrake. Now looking to add the clutch pedal purely for drift.
So if you enjoy it. Definitely save a few Pennie’s to just jump to the equipment you really like up front.
As mentioned. The pedals will make a huge difference in control and lap times.
I definitely agree with holding out for an Aluminum profile rig. I went tubular similar to the gt omega titan. Had it for about 10 months and now pretty much ready to upgrade.
Nice 👍🏻 It's my biggest regret as I'd love to add motion now but I'm a little limited. What are you thinking of getting?
Trying to get me the GT OMEGA LITE @@thesimracingshaolinstudent
Are you just limited with the motion and other accessories, or is not strong enough as well?
I originally started sim racing in the early 1990's, before it was referred to as "Sim Racing". The multi-user interface was very sketchy and sometimes it didn't work at all. It was a dial-up modem connection... Yes, I'm old. But then children came along and my focus shifted to raising them and participating in their lives. 2 years ago my son bought a Logitech G920 and a subscription to iRacing and we both got hooked. He did the oval racing and I did the road racing. He moved out and got a new account and I inherited the original. I just bought a new PC to replace my 11 year old PC an got the triple 27" monitors which are sitting on a wall mounted section of very thick, very sturdy countertop that I made into a desk that is 11 feet long. I built a wooden seat base large enough to mount the pedals and attached a race car seat from a local racing supply shop. I still have the G920 wheel mounted to the desk but I'm planning on to upgrade that to a DD unit, probably a Moza R12 with a round rim and a GT style rim. As for now there are several pedal sets I am considering but at the rate that new equipment is coming to the market it's hard to say what I'll end up getting. An aluminum profile rig is also in the works but the same is true for those. The market is just saturated with them but I do like the Trak Racer TR160...
I remember modulator/demodulators as I'm that old too 👍🏻 Those were the days. Glad you stuck with it though. Once you're hooked you're hooked. I hear you with the amount of kit that's coming out now, but I guess that helps us by driving down the prices 🤞🏻 I love the TrakRacer products. If I did switch to an aluminium profile rig it would have to be something very special to catch my eye and move my attention from TrakRacer.
The most important thing is to define space you can allocate for sim racing. From there You can determine screen type and rig type. And from there You can think of getting best bedals and how to place them on rig/wheel stand or whatever. The point is. If one have only desk to operate, first thing is to set it up as best to blend in race/rally with mind. Thinking about 8020 with no place to set it up only can give frustrations taking all the pleasure from the hobby.
Very cool advice. I overlooked the space but you're so right. I'd love more space but you're right, you've got work with what you've got I guess. Awesome advice 👍🏻
Good advice. Think carefully before falling down the rabbit hole. I've spent about £5,000 on the gear I use, and I'm still a rookie sim racer.
Absolutely 👍🏻 I should do a “x things they never tell you about SimRacing” 🤣 Number 1, you’re never done. There’ll always be something you want to add/change 🤣
Iv literally just fallen down the rabbit hole 😂 number 1 is so true holy shit
Number 2, never look at sales. You will probably buy something you wanted spur of the moment 😂
@wayneheaney6271 🤣
A very helpful video. Thank you. I'm just now researching and shopping for my sim kit and hope to make all my purchases in March. I hope to start with a decent aluminum rig, direct drive base, a single monitor to start with and build to three screens over the summer, and I'll splurge on an F1 wheel. I already have a strong gaming PC, so that's done. Thanks again for this helpful information.
Very welcome and thank you for the kind words 🙏 Let me know how you get on once you’ve got your rig up and running 👍🏻
Great video man 👏 I try to help new sim racers all the time. And I give them the same tips with buy used first see if you like it. Rig than pedals than wheel. We that have spent 5k+ Should help them dont make the same mistakes 😅
Thank you for the kind words. And great advice 👍🏻 We should start a movement 🤣
When I started, (after building a few button boxes for friends got me into it) I build the most myself even my FBB (openFFB + Kollmorgen), the rig I bought all the parts from Motedis.
Only the pedals I got from Heusinkveld ( the best software around).
good luck.
Wow respect for building the FFB yourself. I've not got the time to do that. How well does it work? Jealous about the pedals. I hope to upgrade to those very soon 🙏🏻
Good vid 👍🏼 , sold csl dd , now Logitech pro , play on a desk peddles work great on the floor without moving , wheel is great , the ffb and true force , eventually will get rig .
Very nice and thank you for the kind words 🙏🏻 Do you have your eyes on a particular rig at the moment?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent omega prime I’m thinking or the lite prime
@@wallyedmonds8199 Nice 👍🏻 I’ve heard good things about both
if you go with out cluthc and go for sim drifting :D good luck with 2 pedasls :D drifting is counting as sim racing to in my opinion
Agree 👍🏻The 2 pedal suggestion is for people just starting out and figuring if they want to upgrade and what they want to drive. I just drive open wheel and GT3 really but if people want to drift which looks so cool then they can at least upgrade an half decent pedal set at a small cost too. 🙏🏻
Agree in regards to the Rig. The GT Omega Titan Rig I have is great, but mounting options are few and far between (although should be ok for me as I wanted a slim, portable rig I can set up at my desk or wheel it through the corridor to the front room TV). Bought the DD Pro 8nm bundle and Titan rig in March, loving it but still a lot to learn.
*Dropped a sub.
That's very kind of you, thank you 🙏🏻 Great purchase by the way 👍🏻 What displays are you using with it? VR or TV in the living room?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent I have a 24 inch benQ gaming monitor on my home desk, it's on an arm so swings out and sits just above the wheel base when I play. Looking to upgrade to something bigger soon. Although it's still surprisingly immersive for the size, motion is great.
Just a 43 LG uhd tv in the front room.
Nice I've seen other people do that too 👍🏻 Very cool.
Just starting now… this is great info. I just came to the conclusion to forget the clutch and shifter for now. Cancelled a Fanatec pre-order and upgraded to the Asatek La Prima bundle (which is mostly upgradable across the board). Trying to figure out the gaming computer and triple monitors is the next thing. But, I’m excited for it!
Nice choices and glad the video was of help 🙏
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent subscribed!
@matthewbrennan6466 thank you and welcome to the community. 🙏
I’m currently building my sim rig. I just bought a Track Racer TRX. Got a ways to go.
That’s the Alpine version right? Very cool. I do love the tubular rigs. They look great. Just wish there were more aftermarket parts to help attach accessories.
the mazda cup car on Northsleife with H pattern shifter is a blaaast!!!!! but deffo agree on the need of H pattern as yes 80% of the time you will drive with shift plates on wheel. same as drifting you don't have to buy handbrake! because when you learn drifting properly you will notice that you touch handbrake very rarely. Plus H pattern is useful just to create that muscle memory and become better driver on the road. My journey started back in 1999 focusing only on rally race. now Im old and reaction isn't there any more so went for a gentleman sport called circuit racing. owned 5 rigs in my lifetime starting ACME spring wheel back in 2006 then moved to g920 then thrustmaster tx then thrustmaster xw and now spend it all on still not high end but high quality rig of fanatec dd2 and the entire fanatec eco system. I do hate aluminium profile rigs as they look very industrial and boring but from modification side yes it is the best way to go.... great video and some great tips!
Wow thank you for the kind words 🙏🏻 Very happy you've stopped by and you're a nutter with a H pattern shifter around Nords 😂 Does sound like fun though. I'm old too so you're in good company 😂 👍🏻
Started with T300. Bought next level racing stand. Then tlcm pedals. Save your money and go directly for fanatec csl dd or logitech pro for console. Afterwards i bought playseat throphy. Happy with it. Bought a monitor. Gaming pc. Then simagic alpha mini and Assetek forte pedals. Next will be 49' monitor. Or 2 extra 27 inch monitors for triple setup.
Great advice 🙏 If people don’t have a console or PC, would you recommend to go straight to PC or spend time on a console?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent Best option is pc due the framerate. On console your stuck with single monitor and no widescreen. But i also like GT7. Not a true sim but i enjoy it.
Thanks. Great advice for people starting out 👍🏻
How do you do starts without a clutch? Unless you have clutch paddles... Clutch is obligatory for me IMO, missed it too much on my first pedal.
Hey yes I've got the Fanatec McLaren GT3 wheel (the original V1 version) and it's my go to wheel. That's one thing I don't regret buying but think it was more luck than judgement 😂
thing is i dont really want to sim race i want to sim drive if that makes any sense. Going sideways and cutting traffic and all that. Wish u went over that
Bought a G920 about a year ago. Took me awhile to get the hang of it. Just recently got a Gt Omega Art rig. I'm loving it. But I can already see some draw backs compared to an aluminum rig. I had to get creative, used the shifter plate to mount my button box.
Ah that’s a shame. Hope you can make it work. Let me know what you do in the end. Really interested to hear what you do 👍🏻
@thesimracingshaolinstudent I'll prolly keep the rig for a year or so. Meanwhile save for aluminum profile and a new wheel/pedal set.
@thesimracingshaolinstudent so far though I'm loving the world of sim racing! And the rig.
@@majorboom5486 Nice 👍🏻 sounds like a solid plan
@@majorboom5486 it’s an amazing time to be in Simracing for sure. I’m excited for the future 👍🏻
regarding VR motion sickness... it does go away over time... just get used to it... you DO NEED good FPS else it'll never get better... 70fps or more is ideal.
Old and decrepit as I am, this is a pensioners venture into sim racing, a long time ago in a galaxy far far away I once did some track racing and a bit of rallying, but being of an age where I would be frightened to death (lol) of getting into anything on a track or in a forest I decided that the way to break things is on my PC. Title credits done....................the journey starts now.
You’ll love it. I know I do 🙏
My biggest mistake was buying the G29 as my first FFB wheel. I got lured by reviews where it was presented as "the best beginners wheel". And after a month it drained all the enthusiasm I had for simrasing. The driving experience is just not good. Especially at rally racing where isn´t almost any FFB, just rattling. Spend little bit more if you can and buy some DD wheelbase. The Fanatec DD 5 nm is only 200€ with tax and everything right now with nice upgradability path later on.
Great advice 👍🏻 Sorry you lost out initially. Hopefully you’re back on track now? Did you sell on and get the Fanatec?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent No, I didn´t sell it yet. Only turned the FFB almost off so it isn´t as unpleasant. At the moment I am doing a research of a setup I would like without any regret in terms of "if only I would spend 30€ extra on XY...". So that is my advice of everyone else. You can buy G29 for 300€ or go and buy Fanatec for 340€ (pedals and wheel included) and the experience would be so much nicer.
@@Ddofik Great advice 👍🏻 And you'd be less likely to want/need to upgrade for the foreseeable!
@@Ddofik I made the same mistake too. I bought a $300 USD G923 and it has really turned me off of sim racing. It's so noisy and clunky, it's virtually useless for racing. I ended up buying a truck shifter and now I only use it for truck sims (ETS2 and ATS). Only thing it's good for IMO.
I'm gonna get a Moza R12 bundle soon and build an aluminum/steel rig. Time to dump this Logitech crap and do some real racing, finally.
@DarrenMartin-bw8zi the Monza kit is very nice. You won’t be disappointed 🙏
i nice set of pedal is the SIMFORGE Mark1 2 pedal set is $310 US or $399 for the 3 pedal set. they also upgraded the software too so its easier. i figured out the alum rig first off im a big guy. i tried VR i cant stand it but i like my 27 1080p triples way more then one big screen. i got the GT Omega Prime for like 600 without a seat but i think its more now that they updated the pedal tray. they also have a gt prim lite now for like 300 without a seat. i just got my first dd wheel Moza R9 with CS wheel. i fell in love with sim racing even though im not that good i just love it. well i not good at on road im waybetter at rally lol
That sounds awesome. Yeah triples are popular and understandably. As for ability as long as you’re having fun and you keep getting back in you’ll get better and better. I’m not a great driver at all but I just keep trying to improve each time and have fun 🤩
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent exactly I started I racing got a third place once I was so pumped about it
Very cool 👍🏻
What car is that? Looks awesome! (The ferrari)
It is amazing. I did a cinematic review of it here (links to it are in the description). Let me know what you think once you jump in:
th-cam.com/video/g_4qwyofXpQ/w-d-xo.html
i love the clutch and shifter. but i never race GT# cars.
personally my biggest problem with asseto is the clutch is very arcade like
Can you do a video on the best VR racing titles or the best monitor experience
That sounds like a great idea 👍🏻 Thanks for that 🙏
Im just about to get into simracing. I just added some stuff to my shopingcart. And now after seeing this video i wonder if acc is actualy that bad for vr?
With the Quest 3 and a decent GPU ACC is pretty great now. 👍🏻
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent thx for the quik answer, thats perfect. Now i can focus more on the other parts.
I also race exclusively in vr. But if I had to name the top 3 things for faster laps it would be
Load cell brake
load cell brake
...and load cell brake
Nothing will give you the gains that a good load cell brake will imho
Thanks for the feedback. What VR headset are you running and in what titles ?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent G2 with 3080, with AC, RF2, a bit of ACC (which is better than it was in vr) I'm thinking about iracing.
AC fully modded up with csp,pure etc is where I've got most hours.
@paulbuswell6566 nice 👍🏻 is that the v1 or the v2 of the G2?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent V1. The improved tracking resolution is a non issue for me, as I only use the headset with a steering wheel or hotas. I may print a facial gasket to improve the fov at some point
@@paulbuswell6566 nice 👍🏻 Have been doing some research on VR this last week so yeah agree the V1 is fine seated. Keen to see what the Quest 3 delivers
My first and second rig had shifter+ clutch and i use it just as much as i don't, i try to use what the car im driving has for realism!
Nice 👍🏻 And that’s the point I guess. I find myself driving GT3 cars and open wheelers mostly although I’m lately jumping in and driving a wider range of cars now. What titles do you drive in?
I’m on PlayStation 4 and I want to start sim racing and I need a wheel with 200$ budget(can you please send me your shifter if you don’t have any plans with it)
I do need to do something with it for sure, It can't stay in the loft forever 😂 Maybe I'll do a "give away" at some point if I can work out how to do that 🙏🏻
get a used t300
@@vatial nice 👍🏻 any plans to upgrade in the future or are you just enjoying it?
@@k41zen12i got my t300 new a year ago but i was telling the guy to get a used t300
Ayo, if the CSL Elites V2 are ENTRY level, the hell are CSL LC pedals? 😅😭😭
Heehee! Another beginner's mistake is: buy an office (or even gaming) seat that has wheels! "Stamping on the brakes" will literally push you away of the pedals, the steering-wheel and your monitor(s)! 😂 You'll constantly find yourself rolling yourself back to the desk/rig
Great advice for those without a rig 👍🏻
You should start an online AC server
It's certainly something I'm thinking about 👍🏻 Have to work out when I could get online though as the rig is right next door to where my daughter sleeps and I don't think I could be quiet somehow 😂
buy once: that piece of advice right there is worth more than its weight.
i stopped going to any store with the mindset of: if i buy a cheap one, and dont like it, no loss. right?
wel, most of the times i ended up liking it, and just like you, i had spent money i could have used to buy a more decent rig.
example ( not sim race related)
i started playing airsoft about 12 years ago, however, i knew i was going to like it, so when the guy in the shop showed me some gear, i had to say: " imi sorry sir, but im not here to buy cheap crap, im here to buy gear that is of a high quality standard and will last me a long time.
so he put away the 400 ish quid AR, went to the back and showed me a 2000 euro FCC AR. bought it straight away, the seller looked at me funny but here is the thing: im still using that airsoft AR to this day, while a lot of the other guys are on their 4th or even 5th gun.
i bought a G27 way back when they first came out, used it till it broke on me, but never bought another one, and got a bit bored of sim racing.
these days, the sim racing bug is biting me again, and im gathering as much information as i can to buy my own setup ans have a pretty good idea on whayt to get.
nice solid advice you gave there!
That's very kind of you, thank you 🙏🏻 What's on the shopping list? I'd be keen to know 👍🏻
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent
been dropping my eye on fanatec DD, + the gt3 steering wheel ( stil debating if im going for the full circle shape or the flattened circle if you know what i mean.)
as for pedals, im not sure yet, would like to stay in the same brand, but if there are better options out there ( like the ones you stated) im willing to compare all of them.
another thing you mentionod: handbreak, shift and third pedal.... i will most likely never use them, and like you stated, why buy if you dont need them right? :D
im stil comparing my options, but fanatec seems to be the way to go at the moment.
rig wise its going to be a profile one, already had that in the back of my mind even before i saw this video, i dont trust tubes :D
@@fartex1 this sounds to me like you’ve got a solid plan for sure 👍🏻 Let me know how the updates go. I’m really interested 🙏
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent small update:
triple curved 32" screen and a flat 277" on top (i had that one laying around, so might aswell use it.)
trak racer sim rig
fanatec csl dd ( should have really listened to what you said in the video: buy fanatec, get stuck with fanatec, grrr)
upgraded the csl with a quick release
bought the gsi hyper-p1 steering wheel ( costed an arm, but ill never have to buy another wheel lol)
funny story: i was looking into another pedal set, as the fanatec one i have, i dont really like the load cell setup, so i was looking into something different.
trough research, and ( lol) stumbeling on your video yet again after 9 months, by the end of the week ill be ordering the asetek invicta. really like the look of that set.
side note: since i have a profile rig, i am now also using it to play other games with my HOTAS ( hand on throttle and stick).
mainly play elite dangerous VR on it, but its so easy: step into the rig and just swap between racing and flying. the rig is really amazing!
I think your options is too expensive to buy if you are a beginner. You should buy the cheapest loadcell pedals you can find like thrustmaster t-lcm. They are about 200 dollars, and you should consider logitech g29 or thrusmastwe t300 as your base and wheel. That is imo the best beginner set you can buy.
IMHO at that point I would skip the G29. For almost same money you can buy Fanatec DD 5 nm right now (200€ with tax and everything) for example.
@@Ddofik 200 euro from new??
@@ssomzebra4515 yes, 340€ with a basic wheel and pedals
@@ssomzebra4515 That price only applies if you get a wheel and pedals with it but yes
Reminds me of DaveCam's video 😅
🙏🏻 I love Dave's videos and that one is no exception 👍🏻 Top man and a Top channel. I wanted to explain the "why" and "why not" from my experience in the hope to help someone. I would do it so differently now if I was starting out.
Sounds like a lot of work.
It’s just planning and research really. There’s plenty of good resources out there and reviews to watch too and plenty of people to help. Where are you in your Simracing journey?
you need to consider where people are based. not everyone can just go out and get a fanatec or a moza. because its simply not imported to there regen in big bulk so you end up paying 4 to 7 times more for said item. my g29 cost me 5k when i got it few years back, but to get a moza r5 bundle is 5 and half times that price. its more about what you can get. secondhand market you dont really find things you dont have and when you do there is alot of people looking for it so they boost the price.
The subtitles are very annoying
Ok thanks to all who have mentioned this. Would you prefer none or less? At the end of the day it's about your experience so I will take this onboard 🙏🏻
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent None to be honest. It is just quite distracting when your voice already makes it perfectly clear.
@@marijn17s understood and I really appreciate you taking your time to reply 🙏 I do have a dodgy accent so maybe was trying to make up for that 🤣
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent Lmao
Just completed the journey for now..
F-GT Elite es1 seat (quad monitor)
Simagic alpha 15nm base
Simagic exodus 325c wheel
Simagic SQ shifter
BJ loadcells (3 pedal set)
Racebox flag display x2
Racebox gt flag button box
Elgato stream deck mk2 and XL
Custom made 3 button LCD display
8 inch tablet
Windsim (attached to a portable air conditioner)
Roll cage with safety padding
Driver safety nets (both sides)
Wrap around dash, console and roof (finished in automotive interior carpet)
Phillips hue for lighting
I have my eyes set on three more accessories racelogic timer replica lurmerik display replica and the Racebox gt carbon button box. Then I shall be able to start saving for a seat mover... 👍🏻
wow that sounds like one heck of a setup. How you finding the Hue lighting? Does it add enough emmersion?
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent as my rig is fully enclosed..The Phillips hue lighting works well..I have to climb into my rig like an F1 car.. 🤣
Awesome. I might have to add it to my upgrade list 👍🏻 I have the same issue but maybe that’s because I’m getting old 🤣
@@thesimracingshaolinstudent haha.. I'm already there mate.. Old that is.... 🤣
Old but not out 🤣