Judge Tears Apart Chefs' Chinese Dishes... For Not Being Chinese | Hell's Kitchen
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- Guest judge Shirley Chung has strong words for several of the contestant's Chinese dishes, that just aren't Chinese enough! Which team will come out on top in this tricky challenge? Subscribe now to catch daily clips, highlights and compilations: bit.ly/3DWwd5X
Season 18 - Episode 9
#HellsKitchen #HellsKitchenUSA #GordonRamsay
Gordon Ramsay's culinary boot camp moves to the USA as the terrifying world-renowned Head Chef slices and dices a group of wannabe Cordon Bleu cooks and aspiring restaurateurs, to find out who deserves the top prize of their own restaurant. Adapted from the smash hit British series, Hell's Kitchen USA serves up helpings of terror, tears, tantrums and triumphs as cameras follow the competing chefs for every minute of the day.
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In Hell's Kitchen, two teams compete for the prestigious job of head chef at a top restaurant, all under the guidance of world-class fiery chef Gordon Ramsay.
They describe her as a mean person in the title like huh? Her criticism is very professional, honest, and genuinely good advice. Even when the critism is slightly brutal she manages to be respectful with it
Click bait title.
Bias against Asians nothing new here
it gets the views
gotta play into the dragon lady stereotypes for the clicks
It's for click bait obviously are you new here?
She doesn't tear their dishes apart, she gives constructive criticism, and advice.
So many titles on this channel are bullshit. It's just the nature of American reality television :/
How dare you not agree with the click bait title. 😉
@@TheLoyalShinobi. people would click on it no matter what it said, Its Hell's Kitchen/ Gordon Ramsay. The audience is already there, and they have 1.7 million subs on top of it. Zero need for click bait. Only Kitchen Nightmares can get away with doing that, becasue they are more creative with the titles.
Don't be silly, the criticisms were ridiculous 😂
@@austinlawler3739 I kinda get your point but just because they have the audience doesn't mean the channel manager don't want more. Videos with more clicks end up on *Sign out recommended page* which means even more clicks, which means even more money. So Not putting a title like that would be saying "I don't want extra money"
Not saying I like Clickbait titles but this wasn't a bait as the title holds some truth to the video
I love this guest judge. VERY tough. This is how it should be when you have a guest judge.
Shirley Chung is a badass! I remember her from Top Chef!
@@VoiceoftheBoa2 same I loved her on her season 👏👏👏
Of course she was tough. All Asians are extreme hard to please.
@@bingsterc7621 that is such a generalization lmao
She's my favorite guest judge
Yeah, she’s definitely one of the most likable, yet one of the toughest judges HK has ever had.
I think the "toughest" part just comes from the fact that they were being challenged with a very, very specific style of cuisine that they were ALL unfamiliar with. It isn't a surprise that they aren't familiar with it, because the only true authentic Chinese kitchens on US soil are the mom and pop takeout places. The high dollar restaurants in the US that claim to be Chinese are really on the same level as all the Italian American places that pretend that they are full Italian restaurants, even though half the dishes on the menu were all first made on US soil.
Motto, 35 - Quacked under the pressure
Trev, 38 - Won 1 out of 8 challenges
Whoever made these confessional edits deserves a raise.
Bret: Used his punishment pass Week 3
Bret : Have a 10 years old daughter
Bret: Makes Risotto 5 times a week
@@MachiSSB Robyn: Not Josh
Amber: no longer a fan of CodyLou
As someone who grew up around Chinese cuisine (having a babysitter from Beijing), I can tell you that almost none of these dishes are Chinese and her critiques are very good.
@@PsyQoBoy lmfao how are you mad about this comment of all comments, the chefs obviously dont know much about chinese cuisine and that’s fine
@@PsyQoBoy bro one of the ladies made ramen with miso. those are not even chinese adjacent, unless you think everything asian is chinese adjacent.
@@PsyQoBoy how dumb a person can be
Her cuisine isn’t from Beijing
Yeah the dishes look so sad!!! 😂😂😂😂
Ramen and miso is Japanese. She's not tearing apart the dish, she's stating the facts and giving complete and utterly truthful criticism on her dish.
It truly amazes me that they would think Ramen and miso are Chinese. It doesn't take an expert or a chef to figure it out.
Truthful criticism is just called a critique
Yeah but Japanese food is the same as Chinese food. A Korean friend told me.
@@Fyreflier gurl... no it's not ... a korean person doesn't get to decide that 🫣
@@imcrazydaisy8052 Zach knows Asian food
As a Chinese person, I'll be the first to say that she's not even close to being tough. None of the dishes except perhaps the noodles were remotely close to authentic Chinese so I think she gave a lot of leeway for fusion / interpretation. But there was a ton of things I think any Chinese person would be able to pick out almost immediately like the use of Ramen (Japanese), the cooking methods and spices used (not appropriate for the dish) etc. that she just let pass. And I'm just a very mediocre home cook.
as a chinese person you should know ramen originated in both japan and china and is made of chinese-style wheat noodles. see people this is why you don't believe everything some random dumbass says on the internet.
The way things are made I assume are probably a lot different for fine dining in America.
She must consider the fact that those chefs are not experts in Chinese Cuisine, so you can't really be too harsh
Dude she’s super nice. Nicer than a lot of guest judges I’ve seen on this show
@@ahteng3739 still, you don't need to be an expert to know ramen and miso are not chinese.
I like how half of them just toss in five spice as if it makes whatever they cook Chinese. That’s like me sprinkling Parmesan on wontons and calling it ravioli
I laughed at your comment for a good 5 minutes. Actually gold
Better than Chef Boyardi.
@@hypothalapotamus5293I think anything I’d better then that lol
See! This is how you judge. You point out the flaws in the dishes while explaining why its a flaw. Most judges (JOE) wouldn't have heard Jose's "suck on the head first" and would've told him not to tell them how to eat. Notice how the contestants were respecting her criticism and not fearing her for trying to be some disrespectful know nothing judge. (Joe)
Jose: you should suck on the head first
Joe: I'm a judge here so why don't you let me figure out what I need to do. Also this dish is bad and you're probably the reason your parents divorced. This dish basically caused 9/11 and I personally am offended by this dish and hate you as a person because of it.
I feel like half the time joe says anything in master chef Gordon and Graham begin to suffer from second hand embarrassment
Couldn’t agree more
Joe is a professional restauranteur who owns many successful restaurants regardless of him being disrespectful or not saying he knows nothing about food is ignorance
@@titoiswack3524the pont is he's not a chef
Chef: Make me a Chinese dish
Heather: *Proceeds to make a Japanese dish*
Heather: "It's all GREEK to me!" LOL
She was not hard at all, I think she was pretty fair on them considering she tried the dishes, didn't act offended or not eat them at all. She was kind enough to literally tell them what they could of done to make their dishes more authentic, a lot of judges don't even do that, she expanded their knowledge as a chef and it's good to have even if it's not your speciality. She also gave them points when they were nowhere near actual Chinese dishes. She's genuine, passionate and gives constructive criticism and not just criticise, there's a difference. You think she's harsh but in Asian standards she's so toned-down and nice, there was no verbal abuse/emotional damage at all lol. If they had to cook British food I'm sure Gordon Ramsey would of critiqued in the same way or maybe even harsher. Plus, anyone who is the person of the cultural food that people are trying to cook of course you want the food to be as genuine as possible, especially if those chef are supposedly of high standards.
"Tears apart"? This was professional, polite, firm and constructive. No unnecessary yelling, no insults, no cruelty.
If only they had listened to Zacky Wackys Korean Friend the Red Team would have won it
LMFAOO 😂😂😂 😭
Omfg shut up with that.
Zacky wacky!? GET OUT!
@@roryslaine7896 Ok Rory Worry
I literally just watched that episode yesterday, he called bok choy, “bok chewy” 😂😂😂😂😂
That's Shirley Chung! She was an absolute boss on Top Chef, almost won both times, and frankly deserved to win. She's generally a glorious ray of sunshine, and not at all a mean judge here.
Seeing all the comments, I have to say that it's not just the judge having high standards, but most of the dishes served are hardly Chinese style
I would say non of them are but authentic high-end Chinese cuisines has very different cooking philosophy than the Western ones, you simply won't know any of that knowledge from eating in most of the "Asian" diners that make "fusion styled" food.
so u’re expecting western ppl to cook the right “chinese” food when most asians can’t tell the difference between german & english food? that’s bs
@@jerrydeexplorer443 So if I spread some unspecified egg emulsion sauce on a piece of toast and dumped a bunch of small shrimp on it, would that be German or English?
Heather really made Miso Ramen for a Chinese cuisine challenge?
glad judge said it was asian flavor, but not chinese
I swear I thought I saw French fries in that too 😂😂😂
Hey, if it's asian, it's chinese.
@@brandonwei2430 no
@@brandonwei2430 cant wait to eat some Peking duck at at Indian restaurant
Gordon's face during the "suck the head" section, amazing
Honestly, she was more than respectful. She stated the facts and said nothing personal, and even complimented the parts she enjoyed.
That being said, serving MISO and RAMEN as Chinese food? That’s borderline disrespectful at that point! Most average Americans - people who aren’t Asian nor pro chefs - have probably been served miso soup as a starter at their local Japanese-American sushi restaurants. Miso and ramen being Japanese should be common knowledge among the non-Asian average joe. As professional chefs, they should definitely know better.
Ramen is technically Chinese. It's a localized version of Lamian, a Northern Chinese noodle dish. A lot of what Americans consider as only japanese food is actually Chuka Ryori - Japanese Chinese cuisine.
@@rorqualmaru You know that background and that history. She doesn’t. By her saying Ramen and not Lamian you can tell it was her ignorance of east asian cuisine and not some kind of deeper intelligence that she secretly held about the history of ramen. Let’s be realistic now
@@justiniantbh American chefs and their training tends to be shallow unless they go out of their way to dive deep into a cuisine and culture. All the systems used to educate aspiring cooks have collapsed. The apprentice system is basically non-existent nowadays. Hotel kitchens are no longer a consistent training ground. Hiring for the dish pit has gotten so challenging that it's become a destination instead of an entry point.
@@rorqualmaru While you are correct about the history of ramen, let's be real. In everyday parlance, ramen is considered japanese, especially considering it's a japanese word. That's like if you make yakisoba and then call it chinese lo mein. Pairing the ramen with miso definitely puts it in the japanese cuisine category. We chinese do not use miso in our food.
Chinese food isn’t a fast food delivery option, it’s a whole separate culture and she is simply protecting that. All these chefs used stereotypical asian ingredients like
Miso soup (lol) and she gave her blunt reaction!
had the chef used sliced tofu it would have been more Chinese
@@SantomPh No not really, in fact I would shudder to think what they would do with tofu if that was one of the ingredients they had to showcase. Not to mention there are so many different types, I don't think most of them would know anything past hard tofu.
Reminds me of a certain wacky guy misspronouncing Bok Choy and Soy Sauce. Sebastian can speak for him
The wacky guy knows who he is. He can speak for himself.
@@scruffythecat4lemme guess, he ain’t no b either?
Bok chewy and sewey sauce😂😂😂
@@scruffythecat4 That's the infamous Zacky Wacky!😂
@@seanswinton6242 GET OUT
1:02 as a Chinese I can confirm the judge's criticism is actually very reserved, rather than thorough and intimate...it's not harsh at all
Wow. I've never seen a tougher judge, but she's what you need to improve
@@bri-k1l that's a better word for it. Thorough
She's not though. Making good tasting food isn't the only goal here. Chinese cooking follows specific rules, and if you make something that tastes good but doesn't follow those Chinese rules, you still failed. I've lived in the Chinese culture area for half of my life, including Beijing, where the judge is from. I think she was actually very gracious and generous. If you sat most of that in front of Beijingers, they'd eat it, but would absolutely deny it being in any way Chinese. *Food can be amazing and still fail a challenge.*
@@bearswithglasses for sure
Really, I thought the opposite. None of the food was actually Chinese. Heathers was down right Japanese. They had absolutely no idea of what were they doing. 😂😂 She was so polite with her criticism.
It’s kinda insulting how when a Chinese challenge is announced, contestants just throw in ingredients that remotely sound Asian. It just shows ignorance on the chefs part or a complete lack of care for what ingredients truly represent Chinese cuisine. They are supposed to be chefs aren’t they? Embarrassing thinking miso is a Chinese ingredient
i mean the purpose of Hells Kitchen beside winning is also educating the chefs, they receive mentoring outside the camera air time as well. So if they show their mistake and ignorance its actually good opportunity to improve
@@mynamejeb8743 these ppl are pro chefs. I understand if its in masterchef where pp are home cooks. But defo not in Hell's Kitchen
@@baneyney7002 you think the average Hell’s Kitchen contestant is a pro cook lol?
@@mynamejeb8743 the mentoring isn't that good either.
@@mars5119 they should be pro chefs. They're literally competing to run Ramsay's restaurant
in all those foreign cuisine challenges in Hell's Kitchen, they never made a single dish that actually looks like a dish from the given task country lol. They were merely making the same thing in fancy restaurants but use exotic ingredients.
Shirley Chung is a Legend! Did not know she was ever on HK…
You can see in her eyes, expression and body language how desperately Zanai wanted her point. I think she has real passion for cooking and being seen as being very good at it. Good luck to her I say.
You mean Kanae? If so I agree.
@@Zhane-ce7nj She also did the decent thing and thanked Ariel for helping as she could not taste her own dish.
Kudos to Ariel for being a team player.
At least this judge was actually giving them good critiques to help them in the future. Some other guest judges just roast them instead of telling them what they need to improve on.
I'd love to see the faces of everybody on the AV staff when she said suck the head
As an Art Dog (Art crew member) I can promise you we'd all be holding in some intense laughter and reference it all day.
Chinese Chef : okay, i'm going to follow your directions, I'm going to suck the head
Gordon : Ah I see you're a man of culture as well.
It’s better to have actual chefs judge than rockstars who don’t know about food
Shirley Chung is not a mean chef she’s just giving professional criticism on her own cuisine.
I’ve literally watched chefs be legitimately rude. How is she tearing them apart? She was so kind and gentle but honest.
They need to understand that she was VERY lenient with her criticism and critique. They were extremely lucky
I always like how the contestants that are nervous about their dash almost always wins, the ones who are so sure theirs will win almost always loses.
I would love to see more judges like her on the show
As someone who grew up going to chinese elementary school.
She is the epitome of nice 🤣
It’s really disingenuous to call her too tough or overly critical or say she’s “tearing apart” dishes, especially considering how honest and detailed her critique was and the fact that she genuinely was very clear and thoughtful while bringing up the actual flaws of the dishes. Especially because the chefs *were* cutting corners and not producing dishes with Chinese cuisine or techniques.
The judge was hard on all of them, but she was amazing! Very pointed critique and they all knew exactly what it was they could improve in their dishes. What a refreshing challenge!
Scotley & Brett chuckling at the “suck the head” dialogue will always make me laugh
A typical ‘boys will be boys’ moment for real lmao 😭😂
Watching this at work on my lunch break while eating General Tso’s chicken with pork lo mein and hot and sour soup lol
That sounds like a great meal!
She's actually being nice cause NONE of these dishes are a good representation of Chinese inspiration.
THIS IS THE KIND OF GUEST JUDGE I WANT. THE CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM IS ON POINT. MORE ASIAN CHEF GUEST JUDGE IN HELL'S KITCHEN PLEASE👏👏
The guest judge was great: I never knew the shapes were supposed to match!
And it's always good to see people outside of their comfort zones. That's when the tough get going, and pull it out. Or not.
And I see Trevor is still a "biney whitch". 😁
I'm pretty sure the whole matching thing is in part to feng shui and balance and harmony. It's such an important part of Chinese culture. A lot of people believe in it.
"Biney whitch." Mind if I steal that?
She really isn’t tearing them apart. Her criticism was direct and constructive, very helpful.
As someone who has eaten Sichuan peppercorns, Motto probably should not have used them in this challenge. It doesn’t provide heat like most spices, it is quite literally a numbing agent. It’s not enough to paralyze your tongue but it leaves a weird coating. I tend to describe it as a metallic taste/feeling but if you have a better description, let me know.
Even for seasoned chefs who are familiar with the flavor and feeling of Sichuan peppercorns, it’s still a strong spice that can overpower anything. I’m not sure if Motto ever had them but they are pretty overpowering (to the point where a Chinese local I knew would warn me about them and wouldn’t eat them if he could avoid it). He played it right in theory, but in practice, he didn’t get it and he may not have known
😄😄😄Gordon " Please...suck the head!" Gordon got me howling ya'all!!!😆😆😆😅
This is harsh criticism? Wow she is being modest and too nice. They need to meet my parents. I grew up with way more criticism and lived up to their standards.
No mercy is show in this challenge
I don’t think she was overly tough. Her criticism was very fair and constructive.
i`m someone allergic to peanuts myself so i have my family to be my taste testers to let me know i can`t have what`s from the shelf
I love it that all the guys got the “suck on the head” joke Gordon made (I’m assuming intentionally)
The contestants must be quite insecure about their skills; so many of them thought the judge was mean. But she was so sweet!
To be super fair, most western “Chinese” dishes are not actual Chinese dishes. They’re simplified or westernized versions of traditional Chinese cuisine.
some of them are only loosely "inspired" by chinese cooking as well lol.
love this judge. no dish was perfect but that didn't mean they didn't deserve to win
Everyone be like she is so intimidating she is so harsh… I’m like, that’s just normal Tiger Mother talk, the kitty version too. At least she gave constructive criticism, we at home had it 10x rough.
I find it funny that in a previous season someone had served a dish with Shrimp head and the panel of judges did not even give it a try and on then we have this guest judge who not only removed the head but also sucked on it.
0:04 That's ramen?! WTH 🤣
“Quacked under the pressure” lol
The fact that Ariel from S6 is 35 and Trev from S8 is 37. It really shows how long we haven’t seen these contestants since their first appearances.
"Please suck the head" lmfao good one ramsey
Her criticism seemed so much gentler than other chefs 😂😂 and she was supposed to judge a specific cuisine!
3:03 I like how I always see Gordon as way more mature and aggressive than me, yet he still does stuff like stoop to my childish level of humor and make a dick joke in front of a guest chef
3:03 What I tell my girl on a Tuesday afternoon
So great to see that Ariel (3rd place from Hell's Kitchen Season 6) has improved on cooking Chinese food in Hell's Kitchen Season 18: Rookies vs. Veterans after the last time she made Chinese food in her season.
Shirley Chung. Love her on Top Chef.
Me, too. She was absolutely *robbed* both times she competed.
None of these dishes were even close to being Chinese. These wouldn’t even be qualified as American Chinese food. Also the first girl said “Black Miso Ramen” we aren’t Japanese wtf. They took “All Asians look alike” too literal.
Hearing "chopsticky type plate" was wild to me xD
“I’ll suck the head”
Red team- 😂😂😂
Biting into a hidden sichuan peppercorn provides the most genuine experience when it comes to eating Chinese cuisine 😂
This chef was super nice considering what she had to work with. Half of those dishes didn't even look remotely asian let alone Chinese lmao. Also who serves Peking duck with rice lol. That's like ordering a spaghetti and meatballs and the chef gives you a meatball sub.
Brett: "And here I have a stunning Chinese Risotto which I make every day"
i am asian, not chinese but korean, but i'm still really happy seeing an asian judge on hell's kitchen
When did hells kitchen start putting shady remarks under the contestants names?! Quacked under pressure!? I’m screaming
3:03 the way they laughed as she sucked the head lol😂
So today's Motto is: "Quacked under the pressure". Noted!
Should've got Zacky Wacky's Korean friend to guest judge as well they all would've passed and it would be a tie! And then have Chef Shirley Chung be the tie breaker!! LOL
I like this judge. Bret and Scotley chucking when Gordon said suck the head. 😂
I feel like the Chefs kinda wrote off Chinese food as easy. Good for the judge for standing up for her culture and putting them in their place.
Zach would've aced this challenge because Chinese food is like Japanese food and the reason behind that is because his one Korean friend told him that
Motto 35
Quaked Under The Pressure
Editors deserve a raise
I liked Motto's response to losing to Ariel. He acknowledged that going up against her would be a challenge, and although it was a mistake on his part, he still gave credit to her skill through that commentary.
everytime ladys got vacation its always end with elimination and someone must go home 😂😂😂
I love the thought of staff making Trev change into safari outfit for that one frame lol
“tearing apart” and constructive criticism are two different things
I think she's tough because she has so much pride in her culture! She shouldn't have to sugar coat when they're confusing her culture with Japanese.
2:37 lol motto quacked under the pressure 😂😂
I really hate click bait, I was going to watch it anyway. She was the nicest and gave great constructive criticism.🙄😒
This judge is like the strongest hk judge they have ever had
If the red team had Dan there, they would’ve won. He lived in Asia for a year
3:03 what I say to my wife *EVERY* night!!😂😂😂
she is definitely the best judge tough but not mean + she gives real constructive criticism unlike many other judges like the one for the sweet challenge
Dan would’ve smashed this challenge , he’s been to Asia and knows Asian food
0:37 you're cooking Chinese cuisine, of course you actually have to cook Chinese cuisine. 😂
Bro Gordon was loving “suck the head” so much that they cut his jokes out.
TREV FROM SEASON 8 in his Breaking Bad era tore me up when I realized it was him 😂😂😂
“Quacked under pressure” 😅😅😅😅
challenge: chinese cooking
contestants:
* miso
* ramen
* five spice
She is so not tearing them apart nor is she intimidating 😅 she is being fair and nice? The word tough though is so not what i would use to describe her😅 my asian math teacher would probably be the devil if she is seen as tough or intimidating here😅
2:56 lmao