A lot of people probably think you're exaggerating when you say you've seen the movie 50+ times with your kid, but as a parent I want to assure y'all that it's not an exaggeration. When a kid gets hooked they may watch a movie 2-5 times a day. Two weeks in and you've had it in the background 59+ times.
@@JustAnthon Yeah, exactly! I used to watch the first Toy Story movie on a tiny TV in me and my siblings room on VHS multiple times a day when I was a toddler.
I was hooked on this dinosaur movie with a triceratop, I can't remember the name of it (if you know it please tell me) it had "realistic" CGI with a voice over, and there was this love triangle with mutual pining...a weakling verse alpha going on, and the main pro had a hole in his head crown thing. I would watch it over and over and I loved every minute of it 😭 Edit: thank you for those to told me the movie, went to check out the trailer and honestly I've seen animal voice overs on Vine (rip) that was better
I love the fact that we're still getting theories about this movie because Matt is being forced to watch it against his will at the command of a toddler.
As someone with twin baby sisters, I can confirm that watching the same movie all day everyday at the will of a little kid will cause you to start noticing some things.
Regarding the road and the bridge, my interpretation is that Luisa is re-arranging the town for the wedding. That's why she's moving the church to a more central location, that's why she's diverting the river and moving the bridge because she diverted the river and now it flows on a new path, thus needed her to move the existing bridge to a new location.
That makes an absurd amount of sense but also WHY GO THROUGH ALL THAT EFFORT? These people are waaaaaay too reliant on Luisa's strength. Leave the church and the river where they are, and if it is difficult to access for some people, maybe have Luisa carry them instead of having her move entire buildings???
@@LunaWitcherArt Because she's strong and able to do it. Her story was about how she holds so much pressure and is responsible for doing such things. They probably don't think about how overly complicated the solution is. They probably just know she could do it easily and is happy to do whatever she can for the village.
I love this theory and hate that I can't believe it :(. But my reasoning that it can't be true is that even though everybody *knows* that Isabela and Mariano are set to be married, Mariano hasn't actually asked Isabela at that point. It would be super presumptuous to prepare for a wedding before the proposal has happened and was accepted and it's not like Luisa was subtle about what she was doing. I don't think Alma would have allowed it because it would have made the family lose face because of the presumptuousness.
On a random note, I'm now just mentally hearing MatPat singing "We Don't Talk About Bruno" while walking around the house planning his theories for Encanto. That just lives rent free in my head now, especially cuz MatPat's voice is *amazing.*
Kinda impressive how MatPat was able to take a movie like Encanto and managed to conclude that everyone was simply a result of methodically planned out inbreeding.
that makes perfect sense which is why I don't thinnk the Encanto is completly isolated, yes a part of the population clearly came from the same place, but a part of it didn't and I could prove it using historical and cultural references in the movie
One thing I heard is that Encanto’s plot, at least one of the early drafts, was originally going to be a “journey” set plot were the main cast would leave Encanto and into the modern world. With a show confirmed to be in the making, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that original plot would be the basis for it, and if it is, it would be a solution to this issue.
The cracks were real but heal when the family bands together. When Mirabel warned the family of the cracks and they all came running in support, it fixed. We see it do exactly that, in real time, when Isabel embraces Mirabel in front of a crack in Cassita.
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The main problem with the theory is that it’s been confirmed that people have come in from outside the village. Also, there were plenty of people living there even initially that inbreeding wouldn’t happen in just 50 years, which really isn’t that long when it comes to this topic.
@@braidensmack5110 they confirmed that people have come from outside the town. and even if no one did, there's no reason to believe inbreeding happened in only 50 years. that's hardly any time to have passed
Bridge in middle of road explanation theory: they had a boat too tall to go under the bridge, so Luisa picked up the bridge, puts it on the road off to the side (in a way that people can still walk over it so as to not cause a roadblock) then after the bridge passes and mirabel walks up into it, Luisa puts it back
Mirabel, her sisters and cousins are the first generation of their family to be born within the Encanto. Presumably, there have only been one or two generations for other families in the village. Another comment mentioned how one of her family members (who married into the family) came from outside the village. But it couldn't hurt to have some more generic diversity lol
right? there was at MOST two generations born within the encanto, brunos generation, born just before, or just after the encantos creation, and mirabel's generation, born from those of bruno's generation. there is 100% something to say about what would of happened if the encanto hadnt opened up though., like imagine if the mountain didnt crack, another generation or two and matpat might of had a point
A lot of nice people like strong/violent/taboo subjects in fictional media because that doesn't affect their personality at all. MatPat is a clear example of that. He's the sweetest and nicest guy, and he loves horror media.
The 50 rule is on an already isolated community. It's shown in the movie that the village is very genetically diverse with a wide range of skin and hair types, and body shapes. The village they originated from was probably one that had excellent trade and population movement
@@XiELEd4377r u talking abt how they’re descended from natives, Africans and Europeans? Cuz we can see that Felix and his side of the family have more African descent while Mirabel’s dad and Pepa look more European
Film theory idea: The tv show “A Series of Unfortunate Events”. It is tremendously packed with lore, and although it isn’t insanely popular like some of the shows you make theories on, it is so stuffed with lore.
I feel like when casita cracks the FIRST time…. It’s a premonition. She has no “powers” however I feel like she definitely had a whole connection to casita no one else had. Casita granted her the vision of the casita damaged, Not to mention her glasses are green and Bruno’s color theme is green and his color is associated with the visions he has. But that’s just a theory lmao
Her actual power is her grandmother's power, the house and the encanto itself. Her grandmother just hasn't gone into retirement. There is a bit of a secondary story about older generations not allowing the younger ones to flourish as individuals. The main one obviously being generational perfectionism just like turning red.
1:40 Casita fixed itself. Casita's "health" is determined by the general mental/emotional state of Abuela/Mirabel, so, I don't really know exactly what counts as "bad enough mental health for Casita to be cracking" vs "good enough mental health for Casita to be cracking," but I think maybe just the fact that Mirabel was, at that point, distracted by the cracks rather than focusing on her internal depression (or whatever you want to call it) may have been sufficient for the cracks to go away. But hey, that's just a theory. A film theory!
Ironic: Mirabel panicking about the cracks made them disappear. Really, even assuming Bruno managed to seal up all the cracks in walls and floors seamlessly, and clean up the cieling tiles (which is a big stretch) there's no way he could repair the staircase.
About the first cracks: they reflect a broken home due to the members being treated as magical tools more than actual family. The moment following it Alma listened to her granddaughter and was willing to solve the problem she saw - that moment of trust made the cracks shallower enough to not be visible anymore for the moment Also it is revealed that there ARE people that come from out of town. Like, you do realize roads are still a thing in this timeline, right? Or you could just...hike the mountains. Which yes, is a lot of walking. But not impossible. Or Luisa could move them, which she says she can do in Surface Pressure. Heck, the kids didn't even know who the family was at first, which hints that they and their family aren't originally from there. I mean look at how diverse that place is
The kids didn't know about the family because they haven't been to a ceremony yet. They knew *about* the family but didn't know names or powers yet as they're too young. Their parents probably told them that day being like, "We're gonna go watch a kid gain powers. It's called a gift." That's why they ask about Antonio's gift.
clearly not enough time to research the cultural melting point that is the Encanto with cultural easter eggs from all over Colombia and that the entire population coming from a single village makes no sense.
@@EndTH-camShorts_ in the song “the family madrigal” specifically the part where the abuela sings They are building a home for a new woman who has moved into town And abuela is singing about how the success of the town is making it grow and more people moving in Also in that same song Dolores is seen out of town “hearing the voices from miles away”
Plus, the people who made the movie have stated that apparently, Alma only set up Isabella's marriage. She didn't do anything about Julieta marrying Agustin or Pepa marrying her husband.
@@MaryJaneBluntkevinalvizurez None of that proves anything. Of course they have to build more houses. The community is growing, not because people from the outside are moving in, but because people are growing up and forming their own families. Also, people can obviously leave the town, they just don't leave the Encanto.
9:36 He's also wearing glasses, which is a trait that she cannot change. It seems more like she can undo trauma done to a body, rather than "heal every ailment a body is currently experiencing"
I think it's confirmed in her Disney wiki that she can cure Mirabel's need for glasses but doesn't because she doesn't think it's something that needs to be cured :)
Abuela: sings a whole verse in The Family Madrigal Also Abuela: *Mirabel! What are you doing?* Regarding the bridge, Luisa was later told after it was revealed that Mariano wanted five babies from Isabela to re-route the river. But it looks like she was already in the process of doing that during the song, since she's arranging everything else in the town for a wedding. Or, she just put that bridge there on purpose from its original spot on the river just to continue on the song as Mirabel made her way to the Casita
This same logic should be applied to Moana. I was just rewatching it when I noticed how small and completely isolated her island is. And if you consider that her ancestors stopped traveling to different lands around the same time that Maui stole the heart, it's been about 1,000 years of the same people staying place.
Inbreeding doesn't matter if it's your third or even your second cousin. Inbreeding isn't even a big deal as long as their not immediate family actually. It's not morally correct but the chances of illnesses caused by inbreeding are very rare anything above second cousin. So in reality it's not that big of a deal as long as it isn't too close. Fun fact, Women over 40 having children is more dangerous than cousins having children, the more you know.
@@doctorblackhole6982 I'm not entirely sure about that, but even if that is the case, a small population with some mortality issues (which will decrease the diversity in the gene pool) May lead to some direct genetic mixing which will lead to some inbreeding that is more closer
@@duckduck5728 Just search it up, even first cousins are not usually dangerous, and it does not pose that great of a risk, their's multiple articles that support this, and second cousins have a very small risk. In all it's just morally wrong depending on the person, but not biologically wrong. As long as they make sure their not marrying anyone closer than their second cousin, and track families then the Encanto is fine.
50 years is not enough time for inbreeding to become a problem especially when a whole village is concerned unless they specifically tried to “keep it in the family” which i surely doubt is the case.
What gets me is how the kids at the beginning didn't know Mirabel's "lack of gift". I'm fairly certain people in the village talk, or at least tell their kids the stories....I know, I know it's for us, the audience, to learn but come on.
Well the Madrigal kids get their gift at ~5 years old, and Mirabel is 15 during the movie so some kids wouldn't have the memory of it personally/may not have been alive yet, and so maybe many of them just don't care about the specifics of the magical family until another ceremony is coming up. Idk, I just know when I was a kid I definitely only cared about my dog and my books and my games. The adults around me could be discussing the actual End of Times and I might not have cared. But also exposition has to exposition I suppose...
On the cracks appearing the first time: there’s a theory that Mirabel is somehow intricately linked to the magic, hence why she never got a door till the end of the movie. To support this, think about what took place shortly before the cracks appeared the first time: Mirabel feeling hopeless, shown by the line “am I too late for a miracle?” At the end of her song. This theme of Mirabel losing hope being tied to the cracks is shown again when Abuella starts verbally attacking Mirabel later and even during the initial dinner scene too, as Mirabel seems to be struggling to hold on to having hope but once Abuella, who always assumes Mirabel is useless or in the way due to her not having a gift, sees the prophecy, her mind automatically went to feeling dejected and hopeless.
I was never under the impression that no one could get in or out. The way Bruno said it came across as an excuse and the statement that their families are all in the village could have just meant that Augustine and Felix moved to the Encanto with their families. Though as I say that it occurs to me that if the mountains weren't a one way thing it wouldn't serve as much in the way of protection. And thus my headcannon is secret/magical exit/entrance.
Well, historically, people have difficulty moving large armies over mountain ranges, so it would actually be a VERY effective defense method. Besides, we see that the enemy soldiers are riding horses and using primitive guns, so they probably believe in witchcraft. The sight of a bunch of mountains popping out of thin air after a cloaked woman places a candle on the ground would probably be enough to ward them away. The tiny amount of people moving in in are probably very adventurous people that aren't afraid of witchcraft.
Jared Bush has said that it's not impossible to get in or out of the Encanto, it's just very difficult. This suggests that the Encanto can only be found by those who genuinely need it.
Hey MatPat! The first cracks scene is real, but because Mirabell is likely the connecting agent between Casita and the Miracle, when Mirabell sees the first cracks, nd informs her family, she feels inportant and apart of her family, thus removing the cracks. Idk, found this theory somewhere, and edited it to my liking. Have fun with it!
Yeah, my assumption is that the cracks form because she wasnt included in the picture, which led to the song, and thus finding the cracks. Healing once she pulls their attention back.
One big flaw in this theory: despite starting with so few people they started with large amounts of diversity. Naturally, there would of been a mix of Native and Spanish genetics, and then there was also African genetic citizens as well. This makes it so there are large amounts of dominant genes to start that would combat any defective recessive. This also might be the reason for the ununiform studies for what a stable gene pool would need to be to start. Start with a bunch of similar people the you'll need to start with more, but if you have a heavily diverse pop you can start with less. And the Encanto starts with a fairly diverse population. So, you might need to get Austin back on the program to get more variables in there to included the amount of diversity that 3 genetic regions could have. Also, this would actually be a break through in considering a unifying formula to genetic diversity of small populations. So, definitely a worth while goal if nothing else. And maybe a revisit to other movies with small and/or devastated populations like Raya, Dragon's, and even Brave (considering the lack of diversity of those small populations)... Oh god, Hiccup is inbred...
@@Level2Sniper_ Well, Africans, as part of the slave trade, were being transported to both North and South America around the same time Europeans were colonizing the continents. Thus, it's not difficult to find people with African ancestry in South American people. (In fact, it might be difficult to find people WITHOUT African ancestry.)
Jared Bush: Let’s make the characters in a isolated town so we don’t get strange questions MatPat: Are the Madrigals Inbreeding ??? Jared Bush: Oh shi-
another example of inbreeding in isolated communities is Martha’s vineyard. the original settlers were from a small village in england that kept inbreeding. this resulted in a recessive gene for deafness being extremely common to the point where around the 1800s 1/155 people on the vineyard were deaf and in isolated pockets as many as 25%. it’s actually an interesting case study for the social model of disability because deaf people on the island weren’t considered disabled because everyone knew sign language.
@@Invalid-user13k the phrase is HOH or "heard of hearing". Being "capital D" Deaf is about a common culture, language (ASL/BSL), traditions, and history as well as a common need.
It was stated pretty clearly in the movie that there ARE outsiders coming in and settling in the Encanto. Julietta married a man from the city. There was even going to be a love interest for Isabella that comes from outside the Encanto. Sorry y'all, unlike the last one you definitely missed with this.
@@Naharu. Did I say those words? I don't see where I said those words lol. I made my point with Mirabel's father, and added the extra tid-bit of interesting info about Isabella for emphasis. The point being: people are obviously making their way in to the Encanto.
And culturally speaking the Encanto inhabitants feature all kinds of Colombian costumes from through out the country, the madrigals, on Julietas side appear to be from the mountain region, Peppa's side of the family seems to be more from the coasts probably the Pacific coast based on the voice actors.
It was confirmed on Twitter that all of their extended families live in Casita, they just didn't want to animate their entire family, so they just stuck to the main ones
Some people: wow what a great kids movie that talks about some family problems but in the end everything becomes great! MatPat while watching Encanto with his 3 year old family member: *hold my apple juice*
I do want to mention that even tho there are 25 *predicted* couples, there's still a solid possibility of people getting with *other* members of the village via divorce, polyamory, cheating, you name it.
Dude... I remenber reading about a town were if you have a crush you have to talk to your older family before pursuing anything because adultery was so common it was a need to avoid banging your half sibling
Because the glasses are usually not a disease in itself. The lenses are not cracked or damaged, usually they just focus the light not smack dab on the fovea of the retina. Thus they are not actually damaged.
It was confirmed Julieta's gift can even heal mirbel's vision but she chooses not to seeing how its something she doesn't need to "cure so that maybe mean she can heal genetic diseases too. by jared bush
The whole point of Luisa is that they keep using her and her powers for trivial things. She is willing to help but is taken advantage of. Rather than build the bridge high enough to let traffic under it, they probably make her move it off and put it back everytime a boat needs to pass under it.
Also her power is probably tactokinesis... not simple super strength. While she can lift things, she is somehow impossibly gentle. With simple superstrength her feats would cause things to crumble and break but that is the opposite of Luisa's actual personality.
I remember somewhere people talking about how the two husbands were actually from outside the wall, so its not a matter of no one coming in. It's just very very hard to get in. But I would love to see how everyone learns about tech beyond the mountains now. lol
@@haileybrozoneobsessed I know, I keep on reporting them. Please report them when you see them too. I don't know if just one person can take them down. :( I hate it.
I mean, that would also have some plausibility considering her gift door - which we can assume appeared FOR the ceremony - basically reversed itself. It's like she rewound the door's arrival. I'm not sure how that would work considering everybody else also saw that happen, but then again it's expected that the town learns what each gift is, so I imagine that Mirabel's gifting ceremony was the one time anybody ever got to see her power in action.
Yes, you can see from the only other gift ceremony shown: after he touches the door, the animals come to him and talk to him in a demonstration of his powers. The reversal of her door after touching it was the demonstration of her power, but the act was misunderstood.
This makes "we dont talk about bruno" a whole lot weirder... Edit: I am talking about the wedding scene, and the 5 babies scene outside of the song LOL
This reminds me, I've been re-thinking your "Dolores being evil" thing from a while ago and I think there's 1 thing that throws a wrench in it. Dolores' little squeaks. In a supercut video of her doing those cute little squeaks someone in the comment section said that that is something some Colombian people do when at a state of unease. Knowing that, think about each time Dolores squeaked. 1st time was telling those kids that Mirabel doesn't have a gift which is a touchy subject, 2nd time is her telling Mirabel about Luisas' twitchy eye which involves the magic fading out, an even more touchy subject. Times 3 and 4 both happen when she over hears that Mirabel found Brunos' lost vision, what it's about and her and Agustin saying to keep it on the down low. On the one hand she can't say anything about Bruno because of her mom Pepa holding a salty grudge on the guy for causing her wedding to become a mess. On the other hand Dolores is Almas' little stool pigeon and has to tell her everything of major importance. Then there's the long drawn out squeal she dose during the dinner with her being all "I must say something" and Mirabel staring at her all "Don't you bloody dare". Basically Dolores might've been under the heel of keeping up appearances like everyone else.
Dude im from Colombia and we had to read 100 years of solity (sorry if i fail spelling in english) twice in highschool, they made us really understand metaphors and transfond of the story, for me this movie is trying to show the cute aspects of the book, but the book is mostly about inbreeding and charging with your familys sins, it gets really wierd after rewatching the movie a lot and reading the book couple of times. Hope Mirabel dont have a pig tail tbh
This actually works really well with my analysis that the breaking point for the house WAS the marriage, because Isa didn't love Mariano and Casita would not stand for the next generation of Madrigals to be raised in a loveless marriage. It had to be arranged carefully to hold off inbreeding, but it wouldn't be an emotionally healthy environment for children; so Casita just hit reboot on the whole thing to prevent generational disaster.
1:13 she doesnt pick the bridge, that just a random piece of stones., the question is.... was she lying on the floor, with that stones on top of her, waiting for mirabel?
The cracks were real they were an extension of meribel feeling like she wasn’t a part of the family for the first time and her “power” as the “patron” effected the house when she tells everyone what has happened she forgets those feeling and the damage is restored. Patron in the concept of warlocks as she is the next replacement for the candle so too is she tied to the magic of the house.
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1:33 My headcanon is that when Mirabel saw the cracks Bruno started patching up the wall cracks and this gesture is what allows casita to magically fix the remaining cracks. Casita was relieved that Bruno was helping the family so that temporarily strengthened the magic.
yea but the cracks on the inside are just metaphors for Mirabel feeling broken on the inside. Casita is meant to represent Mirabel's mental state. The cracks on the outside are metaphors for the family breaking. Mirabel was the first one in the family to notice the cracks within everyone's relationships in the family....
Video idea: Are the animals in Antonio's room alive? this has been bothering me since I ever watched this movie because some of the animals come from the outside but others like his jaguar don't and we don't see them when the magic is dead
It's also safe to assume that they weren't the only village to flee, it's also possible that the Encanto let in others who were fleeing after it was created (it is magic so I don't see why it wouldn't)
IF one of the next generation of kids (the offspring of Camilo, or Isabela, or whomever) had a child who could teleport, that child could help extend the family line, and ensure that inbreeding wouldn't happen. That child could teleport outside of the Encanto, and would bring someone back.
@@jeffboy4231 it may make his kids smile to see their dad have a big old face and he doesn't seem to mind it, plus it is probably hiw he meet his wife.
I'm sorry, what? It's specifically stated in the movie people are trickling in. They even obviously have different genetic traits. The tweet you posted in 3:10 only states they family lives there, and THEY haven't left, not that no one has come in. Even if no one is coming in, a population of 50 is all that's needed to prevent inbreeding, and 500 will prevent genetic drift.
By the time I watched “Encanto” once, I thought the reason why the younger ones of the family, majority had weaker powers or nonexistent ones was because when people married into the family(without power)the DNA was altered and the children had higher chance of weaker power. Just a thought. Can you look at one of your “Markipler in space 2” livestreams? I am there
Isabella and Luisa are OP. Specially Isabella. Granted power to control weather is a huge one, but she does not really seem to have a big control over the event. Isabella in the other hand can stave off famine or may even be able to create whatever plant she wants on whim.
I want to know how you defined “inbreeding” in this scenario. Are you considering it as any relation such as fourth or fifth cousins which probably have little impact on genetic diversity. Third cousins? Second? First? What are the parameters here?
It has little impact at first however long term it could and likely would cause issues. In the game Crusader Kings 2 there's a genetic trait for inbred and one generation of marrying a cousin may not cause an issue. But several generations can. My husband and I had a run where after 12 generations we had an inbred child show up despite never allowing closer than 3rd or 4th cousins to marry. But our run involved his character being the leige and my character being a powerful vassal. So we regularly arranged marriages. Twelve generations while marrying other people and a 3rd/4th cousin every other generation but also other people are marrying 3rd/4th cousins adds up. Usually the rule I've heard is distant relatives are fine once in a while, but regularly it can still create long-term issues and that is in fact how it worked for most royalty that was inbred
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also there is the fact that minor inbreeding like 1 here 1 there has little effect in the long run. if they cranked their numbers as high as possible they could probably split into various villages and mildly inbreed and have a few members switch places every few years and while causing a little damage at first reach a population where they can slowly heal it.
@@liamnehren1054 that's usually what larger models do. Typically a starting number of 50 is good to prevent inbreeding for 3-4 generations until more people are brought in. But with only 50ish to start, while they may not see any issues even in 6 generations, if that starting population stayed exactly the same and the Encanto never broke open, it could potentially result in a population with a severe case of "Founders Disease," the catch-all name for a trait that is super common due to a small initial breeding pool and everyone being essentially related. With enough time the population usually diversifies with genetic mutation. But the problem with most models is how much time is needed? We don't actually know. What if Augustin's allergy is passed down to a large swath of the population. Maybe it won't happen immediately but it could happen in a few generations and suddenly half the Encanto is deathly allergic to bee stings.
I read 100 years for school, and I never put together the similarities to Encanto. Mind blown. (very weird book, had to keep a google doc of all the characters cause there’s so many and they all have the same name basically)
Someone else did a video on the influence of said book on the makings of the movie. Its either titled Encanto magical realism or the magic of encanto. I remember there being a picture the book for the video clip. If you find that video it goes more into detail with the connections.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! This theory has legit been living rent free in my head for a while. I've been waiting for someone to talk about this and finally!!!! I've got my answers. Thank you MatPat for answering. I feel free guys. Free.
You forget to mention the Amish in America when talking about close relations. There have been studies done on them and the odd genetic quirks and diseases that afflict them. I also remember reading about a family in the Appalachian mountains that was so inbred that their skin developed an odd blue pigmentation.
another example is the deaf population in martha’s vineyard in the 1700. it’s an island and the people moved from an already inbred tiny village in england and few new people moved there till the 1900s. i think it was like 1/25 people were deaf on the island. it was so common that everyone just knew how to sign and we’re unfazed by deafness
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who wondered how each generation panned out for these Colombians- I mean, they literally surrounded a small group of people in a wall!
It's only been 50 years, that's a little too short to inbreed. I mean just look at how Abuela's children are. They're around that same age. Meaning it's only been about 2 generations since they've been there. Thats way too small for inbreeding considering how many families are there.
Maybe in the next movie that'll change. The magic was destroyed for a short time so maybe there's now an opening for people on the outside to move in or for the townspeople to finally travel and see the rest of the world after such a long time. There's gotta be some people who want to see what's out there but probably plenty of elders like Alma who are still traumatized by the events of the past who'd want everyone to stay in the town where its safe.
There would be no chance of inbreeding within Encanto. The first example is in the case of the Madrigal family since Félix and Agustín are clearly foreign inhabitants. Félix, due to his attire (Guayabera shirt, brown pants), is a person from the Colombian Caribbean region, from one of the important cities in that region (Santa Marta, Barranquilla or Cartagena), while Agustín is from Bogotá, the capital of Colombia, since he wears the “Cachaco” attire (striped cloth pants, vest, shirt and tie), which was characteristic for Bogotanos in the 1950s.
About the cracks: I think they represent the resentment/distress of Mirabel towards her family. In that moment she feel abandoned and disconnected from her relatives but, the moment she realizes something is going wrong, her naturally caring nature takes over, "reconnecting" her. Because she deeply care about her family, despite everything. Does this makes sense to anyone?
I agree. I think her feelings of isolation due to her family's neglect caused the cracks and I think that the cracks only healed up when Mirabel still trusted her family enough to tell them what was happening.
1:40 yes, I think Casita did fix itself and it does have the ability to do so, but it's mostly connected to the feelings of Mira (and maybe even Abuela). during the scene where Isa and Mira are singing What Else Can I Do, at the part where they stood in front of the candle and Isa hugs Mira, the cracks started to vanish (probably because Mira is happier being reconciled with her sister) so yeah, it's definitely not Bruno who did the fixing.
I think the cracks in the beginning were because the rest of the family didn't include Mirabel in the photo. The family was divided, but when she mentioned it, they paid attention to her, so the house repaired itself.
Matpat, i know how you feel. Ever since i bought the dvd for Encanto, My little brother and sister will not stop watching it. I’ve watched it with them over 14 times.
btw, there's a line at the beginning of that sequence where Luisa is asked to "reroute the river" I'm assuming that the bridge was over where the river was originally and that she moved it to accommodate the new location of the river
"beginning of that sequence" according to the transcript, she was told to re-route the river AFTER the song, like WAY after. She was told to do so after it was revealed Mariano wanted five babies
@@disneymore7941 true, I forgot the order for a sec... but now I'm just imagining her moving the bridge repeatedly because the location of the river either changes or needs to be changed
It's reasonable. Pepa is Bruno's sister. She must have seen when the ritual of receiving a gift failed with Mirabel and how her brother had to leave Casita.
4:45 yes im listening to that theory about la familia Madrigal but I'm sorry I have been laughing at that face and the transition for the last 10 minutes 🤣🤣🤣
i have an Enconto theory, what if Mirabell and Alma got a gift but we had just ignored it. In the movie after Antonio had gotten his gift Mirabell had STOPED TIME(or at least slowed it down) and at the end of the movie Alma had TELEPORTED Mirabell INTO A FLASH BACK. And everyone had skipped over those details probably thinking "oh ok, well thats normal"
0:13 “Know diving in today friends because this gene pool is shallow.” Just the a perfect line 👌🤣 Mix between phrases, science, and just comedic timing I’m sorry I’m making this a whole thing I just loved that line.
About the cracks , Antonio's room looks like its easily multiple acres, so I assumed it would take a hot minute for mirabel run into the center of it to get a Abuela, and then lead everyone out (it doesnt look like anyone was running when we get out there) so I assumed it was enough time for bruno (sorry, Hernando) to patch it up with casita's help.
4:05 I would like to strongly emphasize that it was mainly the Spanish Habsburgs who relied on inbreeding. The Austrian Habsburgs married all over the world to gain territory. Hence the state motto. "Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube." - "Others may wage wars, you, fortunate (happy) Austria, marry."
Mattpat, thank you for your dedication in counting multiple fictional people to the best of your ability and the countless times you have watched this film to bring us entertainment.
Technically they are only 1 generation at-least for the Madrigals, seeing your counting Alma and the Triplets who were born before the Encanto was created, and the Grandkids are the first generation born in the Encanto area, as for the rest of the village thats its own thing... There were some adults but also some children aswell in the group when travelling.
the thing about that first set of cracks is that yes they were indeed real. we see the same thing occur in the song sequence with isabela and mirabel where the cracks seal up when they finally see eye to eye and get along. my personal theory on why only mirabel saw the first major set of cracks was because she was alone and the house trusted her to see the truth but hid it all again when the rest of the 'happy' family showed up. kind of like we hide our own little cracks in our lives until we find that one person or group who we can open up to. and we already kind of get the idea that mirabel gets along better with the house than anyone else since shes had to go roomless all her life and casita was her only constant companion (since we know it cant reach the other family members besides the grandma in their magic rooms). so its not much of a stretch that mirabel loves and appreciates the house more than the others and is willing to pay attention when it needs help too.
Recently I've really enjoyed a small dystopian short film series by the name of Autodale. I think there is tons of potential for Film Theory to find out more about this world and would be a nice interlude while some other movies come out rather than having to do the same movies again and again. I think almost all of these videos are great but, I'm sure from a creative perspective doing the same movies can be a bit of a burn out. So I encourage MatPat and the Film Theorist's amazing minds to give Autodale a quick look to see if there is theory potential. I would love to see it if you do!
That’s fair but it’s revealed in the art book that Augustine is from outside the encanto so chances are there’s a trickle of people coming in
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That's also why an earlier version of Encanto had Isabella's boyfriend Boobo from the city
A lot of people probably think you're exaggerating when you say you've seen the movie 50+ times with your kid, but as a parent I want to assure y'all that it's not an exaggeration. When a kid gets hooked they may watch a movie 2-5 times a day. Two weeks in and you've had it in the background 59+ times.
And I specifically remember binging Finding Nemo and The Lion King all day as a kid. Right as the credits came up, I asked my mom to rewind.
@@JustAnthon Yeah, exactly! I used to watch the first Toy Story movie on a tiny TV in me and my siblings room on VHS multiple times a day when I was a toddler.
I was hooked on this dinosaur movie with a triceratop, I can't remember the name of it (if you know it please tell me) it had "realistic" CGI with a voice over, and there was this love triangle with mutual pining...a weakling verse alpha going on, and the main pro had a hole in his head crown thing. I would watch it over and over and I loved every minute of it 😭
Edit: thank you for those to told me the movie, went to check out the trailer and honestly I've seen animal voice overs on Vine (rip) that was better
As a kid I would just replay mulan over an over and over again, and any time movies are brought up my parents just shove in and mention mulan...
Yeah, I remember that when I was younger (6-7) I just put movies over and over again like I could watch tangled 20 times in a week
"We haven't stopped" is the struggle of a parent, good luck with the rest of the movie binge watching Mat
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I love the fact that we're still getting theories about this movie because Matt is being forced to watch it against his will at the command of a toddler.
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As someone with twin baby sisters, I can confirm that watching the same movie all day everyday at the will of a little kid will cause you to start noticing some things.
Regarding the road and the bridge, my interpretation is that Luisa is re-arranging the town for the wedding. That's why she's moving the church to a more central location, that's why she's diverting the river and moving the bridge because she diverted the river and now it flows on a new path, thus needed her to move the existing bridge to a new location.
I bet you're right!
That's what I thought!
That makes an absurd amount of sense but also WHY GO THROUGH ALL THAT EFFORT? These people are waaaaaay too reliant on Luisa's strength. Leave the church and the river where they are, and if it is difficult to access for some people, maybe have Luisa carry them instead of having her move entire buildings???
@@LunaWitcherArt Because she's strong and able to do it. Her story was about how she holds so much pressure and is responsible for doing such things. They probably don't think about how overly complicated the solution is. They probably just know she could do it easily and is happy to do whatever she can for the village.
I love this theory and hate that I can't believe it :(. But my reasoning that it can't be true is that even though everybody *knows* that Isabela and Mariano are set to be married, Mariano hasn't actually asked Isabela at that point. It would be super presumptuous to prepare for a wedding before the proposal has happened and was accepted and it's not like Luisa was subtle about what she was doing. I don't think Alma would have allowed it because it would have made the family lose face because of the presumptuousness.
On a random note, I'm now just mentally hearing MatPat singing "We Don't Talk About Bruno" while walking around the house planning his theories for Encanto. That just lives rent free in my head now, especially cuz MatPat's voice is *amazing.*
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Well he was a theater kid so it makes sense!
I have to hear him sing it now...
Kinda impressive how MatPat was able to take a movie like Encanto and managed to conclude that everyone was simply a result of methodically planned out inbreeding.
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They weren't inbred.
This theory assumes the original 25 couples were not related, but why wouldn't you escape with your sisters, brothers, cousins and their partners
probably to give the best case scenario, that and to probably eliminate rogue elements that can't be qualified with any measure of exactness.
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"and their partners" its right there, you could have the partners carry children giving some level of diversity
that makes perfect sense which is why I don't thinnk the Encanto is completly isolated, yes a part of the population clearly came from the same place, but a part of it didn't and I could prove it using historical and cultural references in the movie
One thing I heard is that Encanto’s plot, at least one of the early drafts, was originally going to be a “journey” set plot were the main cast would leave Encanto and into the modern world. With a show confirmed to be in the making, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that original plot would be the basis for it, and if it is, it would be a solution to this issue.
A SHOW IS COMFIRMED??
The cracks were real but heal when the family bands together. When Mirabel warned the family of the cracks and they all came running in support, it fixed. We see it do exactly that, in real time, when Isabel embraces Mirabel in front of a crack in Cassita.
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@Darius Bostic bruh srsly? whats wrong with other religions? why do you want everyone to be christain?
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The main problem with the theory is that it’s been confirmed that people have come in from outside the village. Also, there were plenty of people living there even initially that inbreeding wouldn’t happen in just 50 years, which really isn’t that long when it comes to this topic.
those are my exact thoughts lol
Exactly.
Yeah but the writers confirmed it
@@braidensmack5110 they confirmed that people have come from outside the town. and even if no one did, there's no reason to believe inbreeding happened in only 50 years. that's hardly any time to have passed
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Bridge in middle of road explanation theory: they had a boat too tall to go under the bridge, so Luisa picked up the bridge, puts it on the road off to the side (in a way that people can still walk over it so as to not cause a roadblock) then after the bridge passes and mirabel walks up into it, Luisa puts it back
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Or, they build the bridges in town where it's easier then have the super strong girl put it where it needs to be
@@mastereon895 that's what I was thinking
....except that it's a stream. What person is going to use a boat on a stream?
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Mirabel, her sisters and cousins are the first generation of their family to be born within the Encanto. Presumably, there have only been one or two generations for other families in the village. Another comment mentioned how one of her family members (who married into the family) came from outside the village. But it couldn't hurt to have some more generic diversity lol
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right? there was at MOST two generations born within the encanto, brunos generation, born just before, or just after the encantos creation, and mirabel's generation, born from those of bruno's generation. there is 100% something to say about what would of happened if the encanto hadnt opened up though., like imagine if the mountain didnt crack, another generation or two and matpat might of had a point
I feel like Senkos in Dr. Stones inbreeding explanation makes sense no one will be related after certain point.
I love how mat pat is one of the nicest people ever and he starts with topics like inbreeding and cannibalism
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Wait you measn this isn't a normal conversation topic?
A lot of nice people like strong/violent/taboo subjects in fictional media because that doesn't affect their personality at all. MatPat is a clear example of that. He's the sweetest and nicest guy, and he loves horror media.
And Markiplier’s taste in Pokémon
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The 50 rule is on an already isolated community. It's shown in the movie that the village is very genetically diverse with a wide range of skin and hair types, and body shapes. The village they originated from was probably one that had excellent trade and population movement
Latino families are very diverse
That would make sense considering how easy it was to be plundered and raised.
Is more than just the physical characteristics, the way people dress, the food, the music its from all over the place in Colombia.
@@XiELEd4377r u talking abt how they’re descended from natives, Africans and Europeans? Cuz we can see that Felix and his side of the family have more African descent while Mirabel’s dad and Pepa look more European
@@skyrrmish6207 yup
Film theory idea: The tv show “A Series of Unfortunate Events”. It is tremendously packed with lore, and although it isn’t insanely popular like some of the shows you make theories on, it is so stuffed with lore.
I second this, one of the best shows I’ve ever watched
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It was originally a book series
I would watch that. Immediately.
I feel like when casita cracks the FIRST time…. It’s a premonition. She has no “powers” however I feel like she definitely had a whole connection to casita no one else had. Casita granted her the vision of the casita damaged, Not to mention her glasses are green and Bruno’s color theme is green and his color is associated with the visions he has. But that’s just a theory lmao
Her actual power is her grandmother's power, the house and the encanto itself. Her grandmother just hasn't gone into retirement. There is a bit of a secondary story about older generations not allowing the younger ones to flourish as individuals. The main one obviously being generational perfectionism just like turning red.
But the cut in her hand was real.
That's just a theory, a EMMLES THEORY
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1:40 Casita fixed itself. Casita's "health" is determined by the general mental/emotional state of Abuela/Mirabel, so, I don't really know exactly what counts as "bad enough mental health for Casita to be cracking" vs "good enough mental health for Casita to be cracking," but I think maybe just the fact that Mirabel was, at that point, distracted by the cracks rather than focusing on her internal depression (or whatever you want to call it) may have been sufficient for the cracks to go away.
But hey, that's just a theory. A film theory!
Ironic: Mirabel panicking about the cracks made them disappear.
Really, even assuming Bruno managed to seal up all the cracks in walls and floors seamlessly, and clean up the cieling tiles (which is a big stretch) there's no way he could repair the staircase.
heard someone else theorize that the cracks healed themselves because of how Mirabel felt when Abuela believed her at first about the cracks
@@novakitty1619 Oh wow. That kinda makes sense. That would be peak irony right there 😬
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About the first cracks: they reflect a broken home due to the members being treated as magical tools more than actual family. The moment following it Alma listened to her granddaughter and was willing to solve the problem she saw - that moment of trust made the cracks shallower enough to not be visible anymore for the moment
Also it is revealed that there ARE people that come from out of town. Like, you do realize roads are still a thing in this timeline, right? Or you could just...hike the mountains. Which yes, is a lot of walking. But not impossible. Or Luisa could move them, which she says she can do in Surface Pressure. Heck, the kids didn't even know who the family was at first, which hints that they and their family aren't originally from there. I mean look at how diverse that place is
The kids didn't know about the family because they haven't been to a ceremony yet. They knew *about* the family but didn't know names or powers yet as they're too young. Their parents probably told them that day being like, "We're gonna go watch a kid gain powers. It's called a gift." That's why they ask about Antonio's gift.
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I love how much Matpat goes and puts lots of his time in just one video.
I see these types of comments in every matpat video and they always get tons of like get original
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clearly not enough time to research the cultural melting point that is the Encanto with cultural easter eggs from all over Colombia and that the entire population coming from a single village makes no sense.
@@patax144 The best case scenario already assumes that the original group is a genetically diverse as possible so I don’t see your point.
The only problem with this theory is that there’s 2 characters in the movie who speak about coming from out of town
There's Agustín... And who's the other one?
@@EndTH-camShorts_ in the song “the family madrigal” specifically the part where the abuela sings
They are building a home for a new woman who has moved into town
And abuela is singing about how the success of the town is making it grow and more people moving in
Also in that same song Dolores is seen out of town “hearing the voices from miles away”
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Plus, the people who made the movie have stated that apparently, Alma only set up Isabella's marriage. She didn't do anything about Julieta marrying Agustin or Pepa marrying her husband.
@@MaryJaneBluntkevinalvizurez None of that proves anything. Of course they have to build more houses. The community is growing, not because people from the outside are moving in, but because people are growing up and forming their own families. Also, people can obviously leave the town, they just don't leave the Encanto.
9:36 He's also wearing glasses, which is a trait that she cannot change. It seems more like she can undo trauma done to a body, rather than "heal every ailment a body is currently experiencing"
I think it's confirmed in her Disney wiki that she can cure Mirabel's need for glasses but doesn't because she doesn't think it's something that needs to be cured :)
@@sarahframpton3831 as someone who’s parents are both doctors I can confirm that they’ll be very pissed if they hear that
@@sarahframpton3831 or it could be that mirabel just likes wearing glasses.
Now just to make people uncomfortable, I want to do this:
“Your kids are beautiful!”
“Thanks! They’re outbred.”
No you’re out of bread 🍞 🥖
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Abuela: sings a whole verse in The Family Madrigal
Also Abuela: *Mirabel! What are you doing?*
Regarding the bridge, Luisa was later told after it was revealed that Mariano wanted five babies from Isabela to re-route the river. But it looks like she was already in the process of doing that during the song, since she's arranging everything else in the town for a wedding. Or, she just put that bridge there on purpose from its original spot on the river just to continue on the song as Mirabel made her way to the Casita
Yeah.
That makes a lot of sense
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What are doing not helping getting ready and helping out?
Abuela Alma was helping people while she was singing, so...
They built the bridge in the middle of the street because they knew that luisa could easily move it
This same logic should be applied to Moana. I was just rewatching it when I noticed how small and completely isolated her island is. And if you consider that her ancestors stopped traveling to different lands around the same time that Maui stole the heart, it's been about 1,000 years of the same people staying place.
That's a WAY more concerning scenario than 3 generations (literally only 50 years)
Inbreeding doesn't matter if it's your third or even your second cousin. Inbreeding isn't even a big deal as long as their not immediate family actually. It's not morally correct but the chances of illnesses caused by inbreeding are very rare anything above second cousin. So in reality it's not that big of a deal as long as it isn't too close. Fun fact, Women over 40 having children is more dangerous than cousins having children, the more you know.
@@doctorblackhole6982 I'm not entirely sure about that, but even if that is the case, a small population with some mortality issues (which will decrease the diversity in the gene pool) May lead to some direct genetic mixing which will lead to some inbreeding that is more closer
@@duckduck5728 Just search it up, even first cousins are not usually dangerous, and it does not pose that great of a risk, their's multiple articles that support this, and second cousins have a very small risk. In all it's just morally wrong depending on the person, but not biologically wrong. As long as they make sure their not marrying anyone closer than their second cousin, and track families then the Encanto is fine.
@@doctorblackhole6982 I am curious but i don't wanna search 'is having a baby with your cousin safe'
50 years is not enough time for inbreeding to become a problem especially when a whole village is concerned unless they specifically tried to “keep it in the family” which i surely doubt is the case.
Unless Camilo Madrigal decides to get all 'Luther Pendragon' on people
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What gets me is how the kids at the beginning didn't know Mirabel's "lack of gift". I'm fairly certain people in the village talk, or at least tell their kids the stories....I know, I know it's for us, the audience, to learn but come on.
Well kids probably didn't belive it and wanted to know it from Mirabelle herself.
I assumed maybe they moved into town recently
Well the Madrigal kids get their gift at ~5 years old, and Mirabel is 15 during the movie so some kids wouldn't have the memory of it personally/may not have been alive yet, and so maybe many of them just don't care about the specifics of the magical family until another ceremony is coming up.
Idk, I just know when I was a kid I definitely only cared about my dog and my books and my games. The adults around me could be discussing the actual End of Times and I might not have cared.
But also exposition has to exposition I suppose...
@@RiannaPeterson Nobody has left the town or came into the town
@@krisw9526 they mentioned someone moving in at one point
Mirable: * is getting scolded for lying *
Hernando: * just finished his spackle speed run * * panicking silently*
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It's actually good idea for channel to calculate how fast Bruno should have been working to achieve that
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On the cracks appearing the first time: there’s a theory that Mirabel is somehow intricately linked to the magic, hence why she never got a door till the end of the movie.
To support this, think about what took place shortly before the cracks appeared the first time: Mirabel feeling hopeless, shown by the line “am I too late for a miracle?” At the end of her song.
This theme of Mirabel losing hope being tied to the cracks is shown again when Abuella starts verbally attacking Mirabel later and even during the initial dinner scene too, as Mirabel seems to be struggling to hold on to having hope but once Abuella, who always assumes Mirabel is useless or in the way due to her not having a gift, sees the prophecy, her mind automatically went to feeling dejected and hopeless.
Mirabel is the heart of the family like her Grandmother was , she is her grandmother's replacement.
I agree. She had some magic all along.
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The way this theory gets destroyed easily when you remembered that AUGUSTINE WAS AN OUTSIDER and used to live in a city
What about Felix?
@RedRan6er what about Pedro? Pedro was with Alma but he dies right after the candle makes the Castita. So does that count?
I was never under the impression that no one could get in or out. The way Bruno said it came across as an excuse and the statement that their families are all in the village could have just meant that Augustine and Felix moved to the Encanto with their families.
Though as I say that it occurs to me that if the mountains weren't a one way thing it wouldn't serve as much in the way of protection.
And thus my headcannon is secret/magical exit/entrance.
Well, historically, people have difficulty moving large armies over mountain ranges, so it would actually be a VERY effective defense method. Besides, we see that the enemy soldiers are riding horses and using primitive guns, so they probably believe in witchcraft. The sight of a bunch of mountains popping out of thin air after a cloaked woman places a candle on the ground would probably be enough to ward them away. The tiny amount of people moving in in are probably very adventurous people that aren't afraid of witchcraft.
Jared Bush has said that it's not impossible to get in or out of the Encanto, it's just very difficult. This suggests that the Encanto can only be found by those who genuinely need it.
@@AtarahDerek That is a *huge* stretch but it does confirm that people could have been coming in so I'll take it.
Hey MatPat! The first cracks scene is real, but because Mirabell is likely the connecting agent between Casita and the Miracle, when Mirabell sees the first cracks, nd informs her family, she feels inportant and apart of her family, thus removing the cracks.
Idk, found this theory somewhere, and edited it to my liking. Have fun with it!
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Yooo that actually makes sense
Wow that's impressive.
Yeah, my assumption is that the cracks form because she wasnt included in the picture, which led to the song, and thus finding the cracks. Healing once she pulls their attention back.
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One big flaw in this theory: despite starting with so few people they started with large amounts of diversity. Naturally, there would of been a mix of Native and Spanish genetics, and then there was also African genetic citizens as well. This makes it so there are large amounts of dominant genes to start that would combat any defective recessive.
This also might be the reason for the ununiform studies for what a stable gene pool would need to be to start. Start with a bunch of similar people the you'll need to start with more, but if you have a heavily diverse pop you can start with less. And the Encanto starts with a fairly diverse population.
So, you might need to get Austin back on the program to get more variables in there to included the amount of diversity that 3 genetic regions could have.
Also, this would actually be a break through in considering a unifying formula to genetic diversity of small populations. So, definitely a worth while goal if nothing else. And maybe a revisit to other movies with small and/or devastated populations like Raya, Dragon's, and even Brave (considering the lack of diversity of those small populations)... Oh god, Hiccup is inbred...
Where are you getting that there is African genetics in the Encanto? I don't think it's ever stated in the movie
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@@Level2Sniper_ Well, Africans, as part of the slave trade, were being transported to both North and South America around the same time Europeans were colonizing the continents. Thus, it's not difficult to find people with African ancestry in South American people. (In fact, it might be difficult to find people WITHOUT African ancestry.)
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another example of inbreeding in isolated communities is Martha’s vineyard. the original settlers were from a small village in england that kept inbreeding. this resulted in a recessive gene for deafness being extremely common to the point where around the 1800s 1/155 people on the vineyard were deaf and in isolated pockets as many as 25%. it’s actually an interesting case study for the social model of disability because deaf people on the island weren’t considered disabled because everyone knew sign language.
They were considered disabled. It's just that they considered their disability normal
Who knows Adam and Eve?
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl actually it's rude to call them disabled. You have to call them limited at hearing, or deaf
@@Invalid-user13k the phrase is HOH or "heard of hearing".
Being "capital D" Deaf is about a common culture, language (ASL/BSL), traditions, and history as well as a common need.
It was stated pretty clearly in the movie that there ARE outsiders coming in and settling in the Encanto. Julietta married a man from the city. There was even going to be a love interest for Isabella that comes from outside the Encanto. Sorry y'all, unlike the last one you definitely missed with this.
Concept art counts as cannon now?
@@Naharu. Did I say those words? I don't see where I said those words lol. I made my point with Mirabel's father, and added the extra tid-bit of interesting info about Isabella for emphasis.
The point being: people are obviously making their way in to the Encanto.
source- trust me bro
And culturally speaking the Encanto inhabitants feature all kinds of Colombian costumes from through out the country, the madrigals, on Julietas side appear to be from the mountain region, Peppa's side of the family seems to be more from the coasts probably the Pacific coast based on the voice actors.
No, he missed the other one, just not as bad as this one.
It was confirmed on Twitter that all of their extended families live in Casita, they just didn't want to animate their entire family, so they just stuck to the main ones
Castia is the magical house. Are you sure you dont mean the Encanto?
Some people: wow what a great kids movie that talks about some family problems but in the end everything becomes great!
MatPat while watching Encanto with his 3 year old family member: *hold my apple juice*
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I do want to mention that even tho there are 25 *predicted* couples, there's still a solid possibility of people getting with *other* members of the village via divorce, polyamory, cheating, you name it.
Dude... I remenber reading about a town were if you have a crush you have to talk to your older family before pursuing anything because adultery was so common it was a need to avoid banging your half sibling
@@debymello4756 That is... slightly disturbing.
9:40 Something else to consider is how Julieta can heal Agustin & Mirabel's injuries, but they still need glasses
I didn’t think about that
It was stated that she has the power to heal their eyesight, but Julieta doesn't want or feel the need to do that.
Because the glasses are usually not a disease in itself. The lenses are not cracked or damaged, usually they just focus the light not smack dab on the fovea of the retina. Thus they are not actually damaged.
Is it actually glasses with lenses or just decorative glasses?
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It was confirmed Julieta's gift can even heal mirbel's vision but she chooses not to seeing how its something she doesn't need to "cure so that maybe mean she can heal genetic diseases too. by jared bush
The whole point of Luisa is that they keep using her and her powers for trivial things. She is willing to help but is taken advantage of. Rather than build the bridge high enough to let traffic under it, they probably make her move it off and put it back everytime a boat needs to pass under it.
Also her power is probably tactokinesis... not simple super strength. While she can lift things, she is somehow impossibly gentle. With simple superstrength her feats would cause things to crumble and break but that is the opposite of Luisa's actual personality.
I remember somewhere people talking about how the two husbands were actually from outside the wall, so its not a matter of no one coming in. It's just very very hard to get in. But I would love to see how everyone learns about tech beyond the mountains now. lol
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Film Theory: Mirabell actually did get a gift, time manipulation, and we see it used many times throughout the film.
Ikr that's what I thought I love that theory 😊
I mean, that would also have some plausibility considering her gift door - which we can assume appeared FOR the ceremony - basically reversed itself. It's like she rewound the door's arrival. I'm not sure how that would work considering everybody else also saw that happen, but then again it's expected that the town learns what each gift is, so I imagine that Mirabel's gifting ceremony was the one time anybody ever got to see her power in action.
Yes, you can see from the only other gift ceremony shown: after he touches the door, the animals come to him and talk to him in a demonstration of his powers. The reversal of her door after touching it was the demonstration of her power, but the act was misunderstood.
Yeah she paused time in waiting on a miracle
this is the best theory i've ever seen
This man puts insane amounts of effort and time into these theories. Thanks for sharing!
This makes "we dont talk about bruno" a whole lot weirder...
Edit: I am talking about the wedding scene, and the 5 babies scene outside of the song LOL
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@@locten4949 Its okay, I just didnt think it would be 90% bots lol!
honestly the 5 babies scene was already weird imo lol
@Starguy. I mean still that is basically liking your brother
This reminds me, I've been re-thinking your "Dolores being evil" thing from a while ago and I think there's 1 thing that throws a wrench in it. Dolores' little squeaks. In a supercut video of her doing those cute little squeaks someone in the comment section said that that is something some Colombian people do when at a state of unease. Knowing that, think about each time Dolores squeaked. 1st time was telling those kids that Mirabel doesn't have a gift which is a touchy subject, 2nd time is her telling Mirabel about Luisas' twitchy eye which involves the magic fading out, an even more touchy subject. Times 3 and 4 both happen when she over hears that Mirabel found Brunos' lost vision, what it's about and her and Agustin saying to keep it on the down low. On the one hand she can't say anything about Bruno because of her mom Pepa holding a salty grudge on the guy for causing her wedding to become a mess. On the other hand Dolores is Almas' little stool pigeon and has to tell her everything of major importance. Then there's the long drawn out squeal she dose during the dinner with her being all "I must say something" and Mirabel staring at her all "Don't you bloody dare". Basically Dolores might've been under the heel of keeping up appearances like everyone else.
There's another video goes over Dolores's behavior the interprets her character's behavior differently. Its Dolores Madrigal - Character Analysis.
Great episode, and glad you brought Austin in for it. He needs more people watching him. Dudes amazing at what he does
Dude im from Colombia and we had to read 100 years of solity (sorry if i fail spelling in english) twice in highschool, they made us really understand metaphors and transfond of the story, for me this movie is trying to show the cute aspects of the book, but the book is mostly about inbreeding and charging with your familys sins, it gets really wierd after rewatching the movie a lot and reading the book couple of times.
Hope Mirabel dont have a pig tail tbh
This actually works really well with my analysis that the breaking point for the house WAS the marriage, because Isa didn't love Mariano and Casita would not stand for the next generation of Madrigals to be raised in a loveless marriage. It had to be arranged carefully to hold off inbreeding, but it wouldn't be an emotionally healthy environment for children; so Casita just hit reboot on the whole thing to prevent generational disaster.
And don’t forget Mirabel was alone and away from the party when the cracks first started. Another breaking point could be Mirabel Being left out.
1:13 she doesnt pick the bridge, that just a random piece of stones., the question is.... was she lying on the floor, with that stones on top of her, waiting for mirabel?
Welcome back Matpat. I was highly looking forward to more of my favourite things being ruined
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I love how most of these theories aren't canon but with his way of explaining it he makes it sound like it was canon
The cracks were real they were an extension of meribel feeling like she wasn’t a part of the family for the first time and her “power” as the “patron” effected the house when she tells everyone what has happened she forgets those feeling and the damage is restored.
Patron in the concept of warlocks as she is the next replacement for the candle so too is she tied to the magic of the house.
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My headcanon is that when Mirabel saw the cracks Bruno started patching up the wall cracks and this gesture is what allows casita to magically fix the remaining cracks. Casita was relieved that Bruno was helping the family so that temporarily strengthened the magic.
yea but the cracks on the inside are just metaphors for Mirabel feeling broken on the inside. Casita is meant to represent Mirabel's mental state. The cracks on the outside are metaphors for the family breaking. Mirabel was the first one in the family to notice the cracks within everyone's relationships in the family....
I’ve been forced to listen to the entire soundtrack of this movie so many times that I hear “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” in my nightmares 😅
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My two younger siblings used to sing it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I wanted to drive a nail though my skull.
Have we all forgotten the blizzard of 2013-2016's...or did we all finally let it go 🤣
@Ba Ba ! your father figure isn't here
Video idea: Are the animals in Antonio's room alive?
this has been bothering me since I ever watched this movie because some of the animals come from the outside but others like his jaguar don't and we don't see them when the magic is dead
I’d watch that
They have not been there long enough and there was enough people fleeing the village that I think that it hasn’t happened.
It's also safe to assume that they weren't the only village to flee, it's also possible that the Encanto let in others who were fleeing after it was created (it is magic so I don't see why it wouldn't)
IF one of the next generation of kids (the offspring of Camilo, or Isabela, or whomever) had a child who could teleport, that child could help extend the family line, and ensure that inbreeding wouldn't happen. That child could teleport outside of the Encanto, and would bring someone back.
but wouldn't that be kidnapping?
Well thay don't have the mountain anymore so anyone can come to the encanto
@@bigmaxethanschannel1428 they maybe ask first
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Ah yes, Kidnapping. The best way to prevent inbreeding
It's actually said by one of the creators that Julieta can cure everything, even her husband and daughter's eyesight, but she gives them a choice.
who wants to keep a bee allergy????
@@jeffboy4231 probably because it entertains his family so he keeps it.
@@jeffboy4231 Something something sometime people don't want to be made into a perfect version of themselves
@@Aceshot-uu7yx bruh, a deadly thing and he keeps it for entertainment
@@jeffboy4231 it may make his kids smile to see their dad have a big old face and he doesn't seem to mind it, plus it is probably hiw he meet his wife.
I'm sorry, what? It's specifically stated in the movie people are trickling in. They even obviously have different genetic traits. The tweet you posted in 3:10 only states they family lives there, and THEY haven't left, not that no one has come in. Even if no one is coming in, a population of 50 is all that's needed to prevent inbreeding, and 500 will prevent genetic drift.
By the time I watched “Encanto” once, I thought the reason why the younger ones of the family, majority had weaker powers or nonexistent ones was because when people married into the family(without power)the DNA was altered and the children had higher chance of weaker power. Just a thought. Can you look at one of your “Markipler in space 2” livestreams? I am there
Isabella and Luisa are OP. Specially Isabella. Granted power to control weather is a huge one, but she does not really seem to have a big control over the event. Isabella in the other hand can stave off famine or may even be able to create whatever plant she wants on whim.
@@theparijat1000 weather was peppa*
@@BenSchappacher You did not understand the coment.
@@BenSchappacher yes that’s the point.
@@MissCaraMint you’re right I misread that
I want to know how you defined “inbreeding” in this scenario. Are you considering it as any relation such as fourth or fifth cousins which probably have little impact on genetic diversity. Third cousins? Second? First? What are the parameters here?
It has little impact at first however long term it could and likely would cause issues. In the game Crusader Kings 2 there's a genetic trait for inbred and one generation of marrying a cousin may not cause an issue. But several generations can. My husband and I had a run where after 12 generations we had an inbred child show up despite never allowing closer than 3rd or 4th cousins to marry. But our run involved his character being the leige and my character being a powerful vassal. So we regularly arranged marriages. Twelve generations while marrying other people and a 3rd/4th cousin every other generation but also other people are marrying 3rd/4th cousins adds up. Usually the rule I've heard is distant relatives are fine once in a while, but regularly it can still create long-term issues and that is in fact how it worked for most royalty that was inbred
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@@FlintandStone1 not gonna lie, I had to ask someone else what that meant. They said it was a good thing which makes me happy. I love CK2 so much that when my favorite mod broke after an update I kept checking if any progress was being made on fixing it. After 2 years, during lockdown I found the repo and like Thanos I said, "Fine I'll do it myself." I assembled a Crack team of my husband, a friend, a few people from a CK2 forum about the mod and we fixed the bug and added a bunch of new content. We got invited to do a panel at a Paradox games virtual modding con and we are working on the CK3 version. It's the ATLA Four Nations Restored Mod and in my single happiest moment we were officially praised for the mod by Nickelodeon and the creators. All this because I really just like playing CK2 with my husband and we wanted to see if we could make the Swamp Benders viable.
also there is the fact that minor inbreeding like 1 here 1 there has little effect in the long run. if they cranked their numbers as high as possible they could probably split into various villages and mildly inbreed and have a few members switch places every few years and while causing a little damage at first reach a population where they can slowly heal it.
@@liamnehren1054 that's usually what larger models do. Typically a starting number of 50 is good to prevent inbreeding for 3-4 generations until more people are brought in. But with only 50ish to start, while they may not see any issues even in 6 generations, if that starting population stayed exactly the same and the Encanto never broke open, it could potentially result in a population with a severe case of "Founders Disease," the catch-all name for a trait that is super common due to a small initial breeding pool and everyone being essentially related. With enough time the population usually diversifies with genetic mutation. But the problem with most models is how much time is needed? We don't actually know. What if Augustin's allergy is passed down to a large swath of the population. Maybe it won't happen immediately but it could happen in a few generations and suddenly half the Encanto is deathly allergic to bee stings.
I read 100 years for school, and I never put together the similarities to Encanto. Mind blown. (very weird book, had to keep a google doc of all the characters cause there’s so many and they all have the same name basically)
Someone else did a video on the influence of said book on the makings of the movie. Its either titled Encanto magical realism or the magic of encanto. I remember there being a picture the book for the video clip. If you find that video it goes more into detail with the connections.
I wonder how Ollie will feel when he's old enough to watch Matpat's channels and finds THIS one.
Finally another encanto theory …. Oh ….. well I wasn’t expecting that.
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Don't think I've ever clicked on a Film Theory video so fast before. I've had a few theories myself, so this made me really curious
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2:21 Where did those flowers come from? Did they just spawn in rootless, did they come from behind?
DID THEY GROW OUT OF HER FREAKING CRANIUM?!?
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!! This theory has legit been living rent free in my head for a while. I've been waiting for someone to talk about this and finally!!!! I've got my answers. Thank you MatPat for answering.
I feel free guys. Free.
You forget to mention the Amish in America when talking about close relations. There have been studies done on them and the odd genetic quirks and diseases that afflict them. I also remember reading about a family in the Appalachian mountains that was so inbred that their skin developed an odd blue pigmentation.
another example is the deaf population in martha’s vineyard in the 1700. it’s an island and the people moved from an already inbred tiny village in england and few new people moved there till the 1900s. i think it was like 1/25 people were deaf on the island. it was so common that everyone just knew how to sign and we’re unfazed by deafness
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who wondered how each generation panned out for these Colombians- I mean, they literally surrounded a small group of people in a wall!
It's only been 50 years, that's a little too short to inbreed. I mean just look at how Abuela's children are. They're around that same age. Meaning it's only been about 2 generations since they've been there. Thats way too small for inbreeding considering how many families are there.
Maybe in the next movie that'll change. The magic was destroyed for a short time so maybe there's now an opening for people on the outside to move in or for the townspeople to finally travel and see the rest of the world after such a long time. There's gotta be some people who want to see what's out there but probably plenty of elders like Alma who are still traumatized by the events of the past who'd want everyone to stay in the town where its safe.
I randomly love the idea that your kid will once look these videos up and sees his childhood destroyed by its own dad. :D
I am normally not a big fan of this channel, mainly watch Game Theory but seriously have been loving the recent uploads.
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I just love how his son just tortures Mat to watch animated movies for a million times.
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6:03 I'm sitting right next to that book right now lol
There would be no chance of inbreeding within Encanto. The first example is in the case of the Madrigal family since Félix and Agustín are clearly foreign inhabitants. Félix, due to his attire (Guayabera shirt, brown pants), is a person from the Colombian Caribbean region, from one of the important cities in that region (Santa Marta, Barranquilla or Cartagena), while Agustín is from Bogotá, the capital of Colombia, since he wears the “Cachaco” attire (striped cloth pants, vest, shirt and tie), which was characteristic for Bogotanos in the 1950s.
About the cracks: I think they represent the resentment/distress of Mirabel towards her family. In that moment she feel abandoned and disconnected from her relatives but, the moment she realizes something is going wrong, her naturally caring nature takes over, "reconnecting" her. Because she deeply care about her family, despite everything.
Does this makes sense to anyone?
I think the cracks represent the pressure the family has due to always doing what Abuella wants.
I agree. I think her feelings of isolation due to her family's neglect caused the cracks and I think that the cracks only healed up when Mirabel still trusted her family enough to tell them what was happening.
1:40 yes, I think Casita did fix itself and it does have the ability to do so, but it's mostly connected to the feelings of Mira (and maybe even Abuela). during the scene where Isa and Mira are singing What Else Can I Do, at the part where they stood in front of the candle and Isa hugs Mira, the cracks started to vanish (probably because Mira is happier being reconciled with her sister) so yeah, it's definitely not Bruno who did the fixing.
A new film theory about Encanto, now my day is perfect.
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I think the cracks in the beginning were because the rest of the family didn't include Mirabel in the photo. The family was divided, but when she mentioned it, they paid attention to her, so the house repaired itself.
Matpat, i know how you feel. Ever since i bought the dvd for Encanto, My little brother and sister will not stop watching it. I’ve watched it with them over 14 times.
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Your videos have always brightened my day. Perfect Summer Break gift ❤ love you and the team so much, MatPat
btw, there's a line at the beginning of that sequence where Luisa is asked to "reroute the river" I'm assuming that the bridge was over where the river was originally and that she moved it to accommodate the new location of the river
"beginning of that sequence" according to the transcript, she was told to re-route the river AFTER the song, like WAY after. She was told to do so after it was revealed Mariano wanted five babies
@@disneymore7941 true, I forgot the order for a sec... but now I'm just imagining her moving the bridge repeatedly because the location of the river either changes or needs to be changed
"No diving in today my friends, this gene pool is shallow" The writing on this dude, truly phenomenal, great job Mat!
2:08 yessss, I also noticed how Pepa seems to not like Mirabel that much
It's reasonable. Pepa is Bruno's sister. She must have seen when the ritual of receiving a gift failed with Mirabel and how her brother had to leave Casita.
I read that as Papa.
I always thought there must be some connection to the outside world as the encanto appears to be a melting pot of different cultures in Colombia.
Their literally has to be, mirabels dad is clearly European
@@artvulture456 he is not European he is probably from the capital or any major city which were trying to be European.
@@patax144 ethnically European
4:45 yes im listening to that theory about la familia Madrigal but I'm sorry I have been laughing at that face and the transition for the last 10 minutes 🤣🤣🤣
i have an Enconto theory, what if Mirabell and Alma got a gift but we had just ignored it. In the movie after Antonio had gotten his gift Mirabell had STOPED TIME(or at least slowed it down) and at the end of the movie Alma had TELEPORTED Mirabell INTO A FLASH BACK. And everyone had skipped over those details probably thinking "oh ok, well thats normal"
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You can see a woman who looks a *heck of a lot* like Camilio...
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2:41 I understand that
We did that song I choir
So I had to hear it every day including at home because I have to practice it
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“Know diving in today friends because this gene pool is shallow.”
Just the a perfect line 👌🤣
Mix between phrases, science, and just comedic timing
I’m sorry I’m making this a whole thing I just loved that line.
Yes
About the cracks , Antonio's room looks like its easily multiple acres, so I assumed it would take a hot minute for mirabel run into the center of it to get a Abuela, and then lead everyone out (it doesnt look like anyone was running when we get out there) so I assumed it was enough time for bruno (sorry, Hernando) to patch it up with casita's help.
4:05 I would like to strongly emphasize that it was mainly the Spanish Habsburgs who relied on inbreeding.
The Austrian Habsburgs married all over the world to gain territory. Hence the state motto.
"Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube." - "Others may wage wars, you, fortunate (happy) Austria, marry."
They steal their girls then steal their women
So cool that Pingelap got a mention. I have friends from there, and my grandfather is from a neighboring island where the Spanish settled.
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Mattpat, thank you for your dedication in counting multiple fictional people to the best of your ability and the countless times you have watched this film to bring us entertainment.
Technically they are only 1 generation at-least for the Madrigals, seeing your counting Alma and the Triplets who were born before the Encanto was created, and the Grandkids are the first generation born in the Encanto area, as for the rest of the village thats its own thing... There were some adults but also some children aswell in the group when travelling.
Love ur videos, keep the theories coming
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the thing about that first set of cracks is that yes they were indeed real. we see the same thing occur in the song sequence with isabela and mirabel where the cracks seal up when they finally see eye to eye and get along. my personal theory on why only mirabel saw the first major set of cracks was because she was alone and the house trusted her to see the truth but hid it all again when the rest of the 'happy' family showed up. kind of like we hide our own little cracks in our lives until we find that one person or group who we can open up to. and we already kind of get the idea that mirabel gets along better with the house than anyone else since shes had to go roomless all her life and casita was her only constant companion (since we know it cant reach the other family members besides the grandma in their magic rooms). so its not much of a stretch that mirabel loves and appreciates the house more than the others and is willing to pay attention when it needs help too.
Recently I've really enjoyed a small dystopian short film series by the name of Autodale. I think there is tons of potential for Film Theory to find out more about this world and would be a nice interlude while some other movies come out rather than having to do the same movies again and again. I think almost all of these videos are great but, I'm sure from a creative perspective doing the same movies can be a bit of a burn out. So I encourage MatPat and the Film Theorist's amazing minds to give Autodale a quick look to see if there is theory potential. I would love to see it if you do!
That would be cool
I've seen it too!
Ooo that’s an amazing series
Awsome idea