The Sound Quality section of your review is what your dedicated followers really want to watch, we trust your experience as a lot of us may not have the ability to review a product ourselves. I was pleasantly surprised by your comments here regarding the 'musicality' of the A10 but presume the 'lack of resolution' is only a factor because of its price bracket. Thanks again, Hans 🙏
Thank you for the great review and I have to say that I don't believe a lot of TH-camrs but all your viedeos make me build part of my system 🎉❤ and you was always right 👍 Thank you for your support
Thank you, this is a very relevant and helpful review, especially the sound impressions (and the internals walkaround: no easy way to swap opamps). Looks like a product worthy of the price. Let's see how the DAC section compares with other ES9038SPro designs.
As usual, a fantastically produced, insightful review. My piggy bank is full but I was really hoping that their next flagship streamer would include a headphone output.
Thank you for the comprehensive review, as always greatly appreciated! I am very tempted to sell my McIntosh c50 preamp, Ares 12th DAC, WiiM Pro, and Sony HAPZ1ES Music server and replace 4 boxes and multiple cables with the EverSolo A10! From the reviews I have watched I would not sacrifice any quality in the preamp section, and I would gain quality in the DAC section and room correction comes along with it! I would keep my 3 amplifiers, McIntosh mc352, Carver Crimson 275 tube amp and my DIY class D mono amps. I really enjoy swapping out amps to get differences in the sound. I also like to bi amp my Klipsch La Scala speakers with the class D amps and the tubes. Having 3 amps and EQ always keeps the music flowing and fresh! Again thanks for the review!
The FIR filter is actually a very powerful feature, and it can also be used for time domain correction. However, it requires more advanced software, such as standalone tools like Audiolense. After creating the FIR filter, it can be imported into the A10’s convolution engine. That said, the DSP expertise required for this is quite high, so I am merely pointing it out. It’s not that FIR is limited to correcting amplitude; it just needs more powerful tools to design the FIR filter properly.
Thank you Hans for your usual comprehensive review. I'm happy to see that room correction is included. Now an option on the upcoming Bluesound Node Icon and already included on the WiiM Ultra is hopefully a sign that the industry is beginning to 'get with the 'program'. The dedicated USB out allowing the use of a better external DAC is welcome but begs the question, of whether the room correction is still available through the USB out. Disappointed that the A10 apparently does not include a high/low pass feature, which is offered with the WiiM Ultra. Especially as the A10 has dual subouts. But overall, a big step in the right direction.
Platinum age of audio. Audio is better than ever - greater proportion of excellent products, more features, better sound, more accessible, more convenient form factors, more convenient, more affordable/higher value, and on, and on, and on.
Thank you for this review. I wonder how the A10 compares with the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II, but maybe you don’t have it around anymore. I am on the market to buy a new streamer+DAC since Mytek failed to honor their contract of exchange between the original BB and the BB II.
Hans, you were very reserved in your description of the sound and not made any comparisons with other devices(without A8).You only tested the A10 with one system this Time. Why? Another reviewer said that the A10 is not SFP+ capable. In your test, were you able to identify a sound advantage over SFP to LAN? Thank you
Another great review Hans! I am curious to know your impressions of the two different DACs: A8 (warmer?) vs. the A10 (more clinical?). I am trying to choose between buying the A10 or the Lumin P1-mini. Have you ever used any Lumin products? Thanks, Russ
Really enjoyed your review. Thank you. Most streaming devices come with preamp functions in these days. I have a reasonably good tube preamp from Conrad Johnson. Should I consider A10 for both streamer and preamp? Or I should look for a streamer only without preamp? Thanks.
I would go for a streamer without pre-amp or use the streamer with the pre-amp switched off (effectively the volume control). And I would go for a slightly higher sound quality given your amp.
I am more interested in sound than features and tech. I have an A8, and it sounds like the A10 has a better Pre, and better DAC. I won't upgrade to the A10. I will save money and wait for an all in one Streamer, Pre, and DAC from Holo Audio based on the Cyan. I have faith it will come someday soon.
Thank you for this video. Question: how good is the preamp specifically? In your test, did you prefer driving your amp as an integrated or as a power amp?
Peter Gabriel; this confirms my faith in your musical acumen. I am curious if the A10 has home theater bypass. I pretty sure the A8 has it, so I'm guessing this must since it should be trivial to implement.
I understand the quality comparison but we’re talking many £’000’s difference. If you went with the Eversolo what part of your system would you invest in with that saving?
If you need an AVR then the Marantz AV10 it top notch. I own it and love it and it sounds great with music and movies! Not sure this streamer is a competition other than for your $$ lol. They’d make a great pair someday 😊
Does it have an home theater bypass on the analog in? It's frustrating to see all these "pre-amp" devices that cannot be used as pass thru devices when connected to a receiver in a home theater/streamer mixed setup.
Wow Hans, that is a very positive review I can see why it took so long. Can it play Apple music as an end unit or only from an Apple device? It’s definitely an option if I the active modules into my PMC’s, not a fan of the “fancy” volume knob unfortunately.
NAD is way more expensive and much worse built (capacitors, soldering). NAD, Audiolab, Cambridge are all devices built to fail after the warranty expires. Just look up the pictures of the insides.
Thanks for the Review. Can you imagine that the A10 would be better than the integrated electronics of a Dynaudio Focus 50? You had already tested the Dynaudio.
Hello Hans.. Just a question : this DMP A10 is all in one system (streamer, dac, pre amp) without implementation of Master Clock (dedicated Master clock unit) like other high end Digital Music players. How do you compare with other high end Digital Streamers (that implementing Master clock unit separate) ??
A mac pro desktop computer with Audirvana? I don't think so. I've had that setup and have a very good USB input DAC, the RME ADI-2. Even without Audirvana, using Qobuz desktop alone, the sound is excellent. But I've bettered it with a WiiM Pro, external 5v power supply, using a Verizon fiber optic router running through two Cisco Meraki connected by fiber into the WiiM pro and then glass toslink into the RME DAC with the latest Roon 2.0 version. I've tested these both direct wired from an old 2012 Mac Mini and also a M1 Macbook Air. The Cisco Meraki fiber to the WiiM Pro wins due to the heft and depth of the sound improved. Both are however excellent. Audrivana is very good and IMHE, there was a nice benefit to using its DSD upsampling options.
This has left me confused. On one hand its the be all and ends all, yet on the other i get the feeling that there's better sound for less money like the Cyan 2. 🤷♂️
Sounds like another winner! But hard to imagine what it sounds like when you said it "it involves you in the music". My experience with being invovled with the music has always been the music itself, not because of the gear. A Chet Baker trumpet solo mono recording coming from an AM radio or a stereo remix from a two-channel would get me invovled with the music just as well.
Thank you Hans great review. Would have been useful to include a HDMI input so we could connect an Apple TV directly to the unit and also they could of included a HDMI output socket to work with legacy AV surround processors. I like the inclusion of the SFP port this is nice touch and the DSP functions and stereo sub outputs are on point. The price is also very competative
Thanks for the review. I kinda would like to know what i am missing out... but.... I just sold my dmp8, bought a kiwistreamer and i am never going back to chi-fi again!
@@Pete.across.the.streetthat is your opinion The A10 seems like good value to me I have no use for it but if I were looking to spend around $3K on a streamer I would consider this one for sure
@@middleearthltd i think the a8 is a better value at almost half the price. I don't think it's worth the upgrade to the A10 unless the sound quality is substantially better. I'm am going to mod my A8 for less than the price difference and hopefully get better sound. Doesn't seem like a bad device at all.
@@Pete.across.the.street Agree. I haven’t seen reviewers really detail the sound quality benefits over the A8. The A10 has a DAC that some think is inferior to the one in the A8.
Glad to see you are in good health. As always your professionalism and intelligence are a delight.
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I dont think any reviewer could explain a components functions, and review better than what i have just watched , enjoy the music
Thanks
Another great video!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge
My pleasure!
The Sound Quality section of your review is what your dedicated followers really want to watch, we trust your experience as a lot of us may not have the ability to review a product ourselves. I was pleasantly surprised by your comments here regarding the 'musicality' of the A10 but presume the 'lack of resolution' is only a factor because of its price bracket.
Thanks again, Hans 🙏
My pleasure
I truly appreciate how much detail and explanation you always go into in your reviews, Hans! Much Gratitude 🙏🏼!
My pleasure!
Many thanks for the very comprehensive review. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
My pleasure!
Heel erg bedankt.
Had ik uw kanaal maar 10 jaar eerder ontdekt❤
Fijn weekend meneer Beekhuyzen
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Thank you for the great review and I have to say that I don't believe a lot of TH-camrs but all your viedeos make me build part of my system 🎉❤
and you was always right 👍
Thank you for your support
Glad to hear it!
Thank you, this is a very relevant and helpful review, especially the sound impressions (and the internals walkaround: no easy way to swap opamps). Looks like a product worthy of the price. Let's see how the DAC section compares with other ES9038SPro designs.
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As usual, a fantastically produced, insightful review.
My piggy bank is full but I was really hoping that their next flagship streamer would include a headphone output.
Sorry
This product is very versatile!
It is
great and clear presentation love it
Thanks!
Thank you for the comprehensive review, as always greatly appreciated! I am very tempted to sell my McIntosh c50 preamp, Ares 12th DAC, WiiM Pro, and Sony HAPZ1ES Music server and replace 4 boxes and multiple cables with the EverSolo A10! From the reviews I have watched I would not sacrifice any quality in the preamp section, and I would gain quality in the DAC section and room correction comes along with it! I would keep my 3 amplifiers, McIntosh mc352, Carver Crimson 275 tube amp and my DIY class D mono amps. I really enjoy swapping out amps to get differences in the sound. I also like to bi amp my Klipsch La Scala speakers with the class D amps and the tubes. Having 3 amps and EQ always keeps the music flowing and fresh! Again thanks for the review!
My pleasure.
Danke! ☕️
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Bedankt
Graag gedaan
Amazing review! Thank you so much. Greatings from Chile.
Thanks for watching!
thanks (again) for the excellent review!
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And of course, thanks for your review, Hans.
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The FIR filter is actually a very powerful feature, and it can also be used for time domain correction. However, it requires more advanced software, such as standalone tools like Audiolense. After creating the FIR filter, it can be imported into the A10’s convolution engine. That said, the DSP expertise required for this is quite high, so I am merely pointing it out. It’s not that FIR is limited to correcting amplitude; it just needs more powerful tools to design the FIR filter properly.
Agreed
Thankyou for such comprehensive reviews.
My pleasure!
Hope you are well Hans!
First yess :) Thanks for the review Hans
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Thank you Hans for your usual comprehensive review. I'm happy to see that room correction is included. Now an option on the upcoming Bluesound Node Icon and already included on the WiiM Ultra is hopefully a sign that the industry is beginning to 'get with the 'program'. The dedicated USB out allowing the use of a better external DAC is welcome but begs the question, of whether the room correction is still available through the USB out. Disappointed that the A10 apparently does not include a high/low pass feature, which is offered with the WiiM Ultra. Especially as the A10 has dual subouts. But overall, a big step in the right direction.
It does have high pass and low pass as I have shown in the video. The digital outputs all can be sent through the DSP functions, including USB.
Great review and it looks like my next purchase.
Enjoy the music
Amazing thanks Hans 😮
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Platinum age of audio. Audio is better than ever - greater proportion of excellent products, more features, better sound, more accessible, more convenient form factors, more convenient, more affordable/higher value, and on, and on, and on.
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Great review as always -- cheers
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Gracias señor Hans!!!!
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Very nice. This seems like a cheaper, but capable alternative to the much more expensive Nad M66
I can't say. I've not reviewed the M66 yet.
Very comprehensive, Thank you!can you save music from the internal streamer to added internal SSDs?
Unfortunately not
Nice video. May I ask if the room correction also work for sub woofer integration?
I haven't tried but I don't think so.
Thank you for this review. I wonder how the A10 compares with the Mytek Brooklyn Bridge II, but maybe you don’t have it around anymore. I am on the market to buy a new streamer+DAC since Mytek failed to honor their contract of exchange between the original BB and the BB II.
The BB II is one step ahead and has a Roon server integrated.
Well done
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Hans, you were very reserved in your description of the sound and not made any comparisons with other devices(without A8).You only tested the A10 with one system this Time. Why? Another reviewer said that the A10 is not SFP+ capable. In your test, were you able to identify a sound advantage over SFP to LAN? Thank you
Using the SPF did give a small improvement in sound quality. But the eno2 filter did so much more.
Another great review Hans! I am curious to know your impressions of the two different DACs: A8 (warmer?) vs. the A10 (more clinical?). I am trying to choose between buying the A10 or the Lumin P1-mini. Have you ever used any Lumin products? Thanks, Russ
I rather think it is the reverse.
Really enjoyed your review. Thank you. Most streaming devices come with preamp functions in these days. I have a reasonably good tube preamp from Conrad Johnson. Should I consider A10 for both streamer and preamp? Or I should look for a streamer only without preamp? Thanks.
I would go for a streamer without pre-amp or use the streamer with the pre-amp switched off (effectively the volume control). And I would go for a slightly higher sound quality given your amp.
I am more interested in sound than features and tech. I have an A8, and it sounds like the A10 has a better Pre, and better DAC. I won't upgrade to the A10. I will save money and wait for an all in one Streamer, Pre, and DAC from Holo Audio based on the Cyan. I have faith it will come someday soon.
I understand
Thank you for this video. Question: how good is the preamp specifically? In your test, did you prefer driving your amp as an integrated or as a power amp?
Both!
Peter Gabriel; this confirms my faith in your musical acumen. I am curious if the A10 has home theater bypass. I pretty sure the A8 has it, so I'm guessing this must since it should be trivial to implement.
Not that I know of
Enjoyed the review better than hardware specs. Loved listening to it. Thank you!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m deciding between this or Marantz AV10.
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I understand the quality comparison but we’re talking many £’000’s difference. If you went with the Eversolo what part of your system would you invest in with that saving?
@@eCommencal id like to replace my avr and add more home theater channels.
If you need an AVR then the Marantz AV10 it top notch. I own it and love it and it sounds great with music and movies! Not sure this streamer is a competition other than for your $$ lol. They’d make a great pair someday 😊
Just want to repeat what most people here said … “Great review !!”
I do the same: 🙏🏻🙏🏻😄
Would love to get pre-amp impressions from you on this unit.
I have no analog sources.
Does it have an home theater bypass on the analog in?
It's frustrating to see all these "pre-amp" devices that cannot be used as pass thru devices when connected to a receiver in a home theater/streamer mixed setup.
Sorry No
Wow Hans, that is a very positive review I can see why it took so long. Can it play Apple music as an end unit or only from an Apple device?
It’s definitely an option if I the active modules into my PMC’s, not a fan of the “fancy” volume knob unfortunately.
It does Apple formats and, if you need it, also Airplay 2
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cool, so can it compare with the AURALiC g2.1 or is that the next step on?
bedankt!
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I understand there is quite the price difference to the A10 but a review of the Bluesound Node Icon would be interesting 🧐
Noted
Have you had a chance to review the latest Nad M66 streaming preamp? If so how do they compare?
No, not yet
im never going to buy this but your explanations were brilliant ,it actually is a great product but unfortunately my pocket only goes to wimm
I understand
The A10 is a clear competitor to the NAD M66. Any thoughts on the comparison? Thanks so much and keep up the good work.
I have not reviewed the M66 so I can't say.
NAD is way more expensive and much worse built (capacitors, soldering). NAD, Audiolab, Cambridge are all devices built to fail after the warranty expires. Just look up the pictures of the insides.
Thanks for the Review.
Can you imagine that the A10 would be better than the integrated electronics of a Dynaudio Focus 50?
You had already tested the Dynaudio.
That was a long time ago….
Isn't that filters then a smps in the upper right? Sounds like even if it's not a full smps, it will still create switching noise no?
It is a SMPS but it's only used for standby and voltage selection so it doesn't get into the audio circuits.
Hello Hans..
Just a question : this DMP A10 is all in one system (streamer, dac, pre amp) without implementation of Master Clock (dedicated Master clock unit) like other high end Digital Music players. How do you compare with other high end Digital Streamers (that implementing Master clock unit separate) ??
Itt has two OCXO's as master clock.
Hi Hans, I heard a contention that a mac pro with adurivana will kill any any streamer going into a dac?? What’s your opinion on that?? Thanks
I recently did not test Audirvaña so I can't say.
A mac pro desktop computer with Audirvana? I don't think so. I've had that setup and have a very good USB input DAC, the RME ADI-2. Even without Audirvana, using Qobuz desktop alone, the sound is excellent. But I've bettered it with a WiiM Pro, external 5v power supply, using a Verizon fiber optic router running through two Cisco Meraki connected by fiber into the WiiM pro and then glass toslink into the RME DAC with the latest Roon 2.0 version.
I've tested these both direct wired from an old 2012 Mac Mini and also a M1 Macbook Air. The Cisco Meraki fiber to the WiiM Pro wins due to the heft and depth of the sound improved. Both are however excellent. Audrivana is very good and IMHE, there was a nice benefit to using its DSD upsampling options.
You alluded to it but was there a noticeable difference between using it as a streamer vs using it as a streamer&preamp?
No
But does it have AirPlay 2? Still sour that my DMP-A6 ME only has Airplay 1
Airplay 2 is specified.
Looks like the external heatsinks are just for aestetics... aren't they?
They are. I think it's to mach the power amp the introduced.
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This has left me confused. On one hand its the be all and ends all, yet on the other i get the feeling that there's better sound for less money like the Cyan 2. 🤷♂️
The Cyan 2 is a completely different beast, incomparable
Sounds like another winner! But hard to imagine what it sounds like when you said it "it involves you in the music". My experience with being invovled with the music has always been the music itself, not because of the gear. A Chet Baker trumpet solo mono recording coming from an AM radio or a stereo remix from a two-channel would get me invovled with the music just as well.
Enjoy the music
18:20 I don't think you used an actual iPad 2... the iPad 2 came out in 2011 and doesn't even support basic apps anymore.
iPad Pro 2
Thank you Hans great review. Would have been useful to include a HDMI input so we could connect an Apple TV directly to the unit and also they could of included a HDMI output socket to work with legacy AV surround processors. I like the inclusion of the SFP port this is nice touch and the DSP functions and stereo sub outputs are on point. The price is also very competative
It does have an HDMO ARC input so you can connect an Apple TV
The screen in the volume knob ruins it for me.
That’s OK, don’t feel bad
Thanks for the review.
I kinda would like to know what i am missing out... but....
I just sold my dmp8, bought a kiwistreamer and i am never going back to chi-fi again!
What is a Kiwistreamer?
Have fun!
@@trebep from dion audio in the netherlands.
I can only find it for 3.780,00 €
I saw the Dutch price at MagnaHifi.com
It may be fortunate that I don't play in the upper-end hifi playground, it would be so hard to pick from the awesome choices above 3K.
$3000 is pretty entry level. Above the budget stuff though.
Enjoy the music.
@@Pete.across.the.streetthat is your opinion
The A10 seems like good value to me
I have no use for it but if I were looking to spend around $3K on a streamer I would consider this one for sure
@@middleearthltd i think the a8 is a better value at almost half the price. I don't think it's worth the upgrade to the A10 unless the sound quality is substantially better. I'm am going to mod my A8 for less than the price difference and hopefully get better sound. Doesn't seem like a bad device at all.
@@Pete.across.the.street Agree. I haven’t seen reviewers really detail the sound quality benefits over the A8. The A10 has a DAC that some think is inferior to the one in the A8.