You must have a happy life. Whatever you test is the best you’ve ever heard. This only goes to show that finally thanks to technical progress, whatever the brand or whatever the model you buy, you can find something great at every price.
@@kennethr8322 The cheaper options are still there, an A10 needs the rest of the chain which goes easy above 10k and feeds another market. Well done Eversolo.
I agree Eversolo has the best app. Just as an FYI I purchased a high end Pangea 14 gauge power cord and it made a massive difference to my DMP A-6. A huge difference! Love the streamer and I need to listen to the A-10. Use my A6 just a s a streamer.
@ the sound stage increased with the power cord in a huge way. I couldn’t believe it and switched the provided cord back into the Eversolo and it went back to the “stock sound”. The stock sound wasn’t bad but when it was connected to the larger power cord it was as if the internal power supply had been upgraded.
Please review it as a streamer/dac/preamp. Try playing vinyl (via phono-pre) through it. The real value would be apparent if this device could replace a separate pre-amp. The Serbian reviewer has stated that all pre-amps attached to dac’s are just mediocre.
Looking forward to any comparisons vs your Electrocomanait system sitting next to it. Eversolo has more features and I like the room comp, if it does it well.
I generally enjoy your reviews, great presentation, maybe too much hype on occasion. This review I felt was just rushed . You didn't make a point about the long time you spent with it in your system , loads of features were skipped over, presumably no time to fully understand/review , and reading from sheets of paper , all gives the impression that being first to market, with your review, is way more important than a fully detailed effort . Maybe a follow up when you have got a better grip on this seemingly excellent ,groundbreaking for the price probably , piece of HiFi gear.
Not only that but compare it to the A8 review and 95% is the same... But its MUCH better than the A8... of course. Or think about noise... Well my A6 is silent so I hope his puritan power conditioner combined with like any streamer is silent let alone a dual powersupply streamer (which of course the A8 already was...) And the spatial sound remark is funny with the open baffles in the background. I think this may well be Huffs worst "review" yet.
The A8 is still great and sits at a price point. This one costs quite a bit more. Most manufacturers have a tier of similar products that sit at different price points. The A6 for those who want to spend under $1k, the A8 for those who want more and the A10 as a flagship that costs yet even more. :)
How does the user experience compare to blue sound? I will be interested in the sound comparison to the blue sound flagship when it becomes available. The evolution of these products have fast track pace!
Better than the Hi Fi Rose 150B? I am happy with mine. I bought it 3 years ago and the price has still not come down. Maybe with this they will lower the price.
How would you rank the a10 vs Hifi Rose 130 vs Node Icon (I know different price point) - but curious to know which streamer has the better sound quality.
@ In my rig it was doing a great job (mainly Tidal - via Tidal Connect) in combo with my Focal Sopra 1 (featuring a fabulous beryllium tweeter) supported by an Sopra SW1000 sub.
Why do you decorate components with pink bits of potpourri looking like my Nan's dunny? Are you an audio chef garnishing components with bits of plastic cherry blossom? 😅 Love the show btw just banter but also wtf.
How is the preamp section while using the streamer DAC? Can you compare to another preamp? 10 db of gain seems very low. This would make an efficient system if all you needed was an amp.
I've been looking at the new Aurender A 1000 at $3500 which is their least expensive piece. No pre amp but would still make a worthy comparison. I'm strictly analog at the moment so just taking my time. I'm sure you'll compare to some of your other favorites just for sound quality.
I am owner of aavik s180, i280 connected to b&w d3 800. The streamer user experience is so poor with their stone age app mconnect. Looking for options for streamer however the sound is no match to aavik. Would this one be close and/or better?
Thanks for the review. It would be nice to compare the sound of the streaming DAC with a similar priced Lumin streaming DAC (T3). Im reslly just into the best sound and imaging and dont care for all the DMP-A10 gimmicks. However if it sounds the same as the Lumin, then I would consider the DMP-A10. Lumin on the other hand still delivers firmware updates for old products - Eversolo we still dont know if they will provide that.
When plugged in via ARC, does it turn off/on instantly with the source TV? I have the new Aurender A1000 as a digital preamp for my TV and it shuts completely off when the TV does. Problem is that it takes 30 seconds to turn back on when I turn on the TV, which my wife is not fond of.
It is rather strange that Eversolo goes and includes an I²S connection on their DMP-A8 only to remove this option from their new flagship DMP-A10. It feels like a retrograde step - especially when considering the cost of this new 'flagship' model. 🤔
@@CletusVanDamme2011Not as strange as you might think, a number of higher end streamers like the Auraliac Aries G2.2 don’t include I2S, just USB and s/pdif. It’d be negligible expense for them to include, I’m sure they would if it delivered better sound than USB, so was more competitive with their competitors.. and yet they don’t.
@@Wharariki Thanks! I am not a DAC designer but I believe that the implementation of an i2S interface requires additional firmware development to support the protocol. My assumption is, eversolo did not want to incur the additional development time and cost of implementing and more importantly supporting the I2S interface. It is possible they don't see the sonic benefits.
I own the X2, do not have the X1. Still sounds like the X2. The character of the DAC is clean, clear, open, big stage, nice midrange and tight bass. The amp used also makes a difference and the EC amp I use has a solidity and richness about it that sounds different than other amps I’ve had or have. In any case the A10 sounds great, and much better than I expected it to sound. Thanks for watching.
According to the analog xlr and rca outputs: Can these be set indepentdently, so - as an exampel - the xlr output is regulated, and the rca output is fixed level . So that you have a fixed line level output to a headphone amplifier.
interesting direction, a huge display on the unit im sitting 5 meters :) so less interaction with the screen maximum enjoying the look, at the same time in my hand a phone where i can controll everything:) i prefer not to have too much in the unit only what is really need
what loudspeakers in which room do I need for the A-10? at price around 3800€ plus decent amp which fits the A-10 The loudspeaker should cost what? 10.000€? 90% of the consumer have between 20 and 30 square meter living room. Anyway nice A-10. Which amp you suggest? Has it room correction eg an eq?
So how much difference do different power amps make. If you buy this it will sound completely different on different speakers, but once you have made your speaker selection the only variable is the power amp. Do different power amps make much difference or is it just down to power?
The A8 is very high value for the price. The A10 .... not so much as in the $4k range there is some serious competition. Once it hits the market I might try the A10 and see how it compares, sonically, to my A8, but only from only from a seller that accepts returns.
@@joeythedime1838 the A10 is a much nicer unit than the A8, in parts, features and sound . So there’s that. Much more refined in sound. As one climbs the ladder the performance increases. So all up to what one is looking for in price vs performance.
I have the entry level version with the Teddy Pardo out board power supply. You'd think that with that extra coin, you'd get 20 different meters and eq to choose from, a HUGE left to right screen, etc. This is not worth the coin.
Question and potentially a game changing one. Does it (also) high pass the main speakers when using the xover subwoofer integration settings? (I hope it does)
Dans 3 mois, ils sortiront le DMP-A8 Master Edition, puis dans 6 mois le DMP-A10 Master Edition, dans 1 ans le DMP-A12, et dans 1,5 ans le DMP-A12 Master Edition, et puis, et puis, et puis, c'est sans fin comme musique... On dirait qu'ils nous prennent pour des pigeons, et ce bouton de volume taillé façon diamant, avec encore un écran au centre, que c'est laid ! ☹
The a10 is 4200 in EU and The rose rs 130 is 6100, i think that is a not so smal gap in price, and you get a lot moore functions with The a10. What about The rs130 makes it better except for that sweet screen?
You must have a happy life. Whatever you test is the best you’ve ever heard.
This only goes to show that finally thanks to technical progress, whatever the brand or whatever the model you buy, you can find something great at every price.
Seems true
Thanks for the first review...I have been waiting for this one
Thank you!
@@huffparanormalgreat review as always , how does the Dac compare to the Weiss 204? Since they are using the same chip
@@ericelmore887
The Swiss Weiss products are normally in a league of their own 🔥💯
Thanks
I wish Eversolo would make a high-end streaming transport.
And now you get the Amp which matches perfectly from eversolo AMP-F10❤️💯
I really like your reviews.
Thank you
Came only to watch this because of the Pure Audio Project. Cannot wait for the review!
+1 on PAP. Standing by for the review.
Nice feature updates from the A8. But Eversolo seems to have lost their way in the pricing department. The price is ridiculously high!
@@kennethr8322 The cheaper options are still there, an A10 needs the rest of the chain which goes easy above 10k and feeds another market. Well done Eversolo.
I agree Eversolo has the best app. Just as an FYI I purchased a high end Pangea 14 gauge power cord and it made a massive difference to my DMP A-6. A huge difference! Love the streamer and I need to listen to the A-10. Use my A6 just a s a streamer.
Awesome! Enjoy!
@dangoertz what dac are you using with your A6 and what sound improvement did you get when changing Power cord?
@ I’m running a Peachtree Carina GaN integrated amp. It runs a dual mono configuration ESS 9068 dacs.
@ the sound stage increased with the power cord in a huge way. I couldn’t believe it and switched the provided cord back into the Eversolo and it went back to the “stock sound”. The stock sound wasn’t bad but when it was connected to the larger power cord it was as if the internal power supply had been upgraded.
@@dangoertz8030 is it the Pangea audio ac-14se?
Please review it as a streamer/dac/preamp. Try playing vinyl (via phono-pre) through it. The real value would be apparent if this device could replace a separate pre-amp. The Serbian reviewer has stated that all pre-amps attached to dac’s are just mediocre.
Great! Now we are waiting for “A-10 vs …” updates! I’m especially interesed in compare with LUMIN P1 mini! 😊
love them all because they have native Apple Music to play hires lossless! same with hugo rose which also plays native Apple Music
Looking forward to any comparisons vs your Electrocomanait system sitting next to it. Eversolo has more features and I like the room comp, if it does it well.
I generally enjoy your reviews, great presentation, maybe too much hype on occasion.
This review I felt was just rushed .
You didn't make a point about the long time you spent with it in your system , loads of features were skipped over, presumably no time to fully understand/review , and reading from sheets of paper , all gives the impression that being first to market, with your review, is way more important than a fully detailed effort . Maybe a follow up when you have got a better grip on this seemingly excellent ,groundbreaking for the price probably , piece of HiFi gear.
Not only that but compare it to the A8 review and 95% is the same... But its MUCH better than the A8... of course. Or think about noise... Well my A6 is silent so I hope his puritan power conditioner combined with like any streamer is silent let alone a dual powersupply streamer (which of course the A8 already was...) And the spatial sound remark is funny with the open baffles in the background. I think this may well be Huffs worst "review" yet.
Interesting review. Is the a10 better as a streamer only (no DAC) than the Primare? Or as a full streamer with DAC?
I just got the DMP-A8 a couple of months back, now they release this, hard to keep up with technology
The A8 is still great and sits at a price point. This one costs quite a bit more. Most manufacturers have a tier of similar products that sit at different price points. The A6 for those who want to spend under $1k, the A8 for those who want more and the A10 as a flagship that costs yet even more. :)
@@garemz yeah agree. Rest easy. The DMP-A10: “state of the moment” another newer, better model is on its way. (Enjoy your A8, it’s a fine unit)
Did the fiber connection make a difference?
Like the inclusion of room correction here. Just waiting for the RD160/RS130 combo to be reviewed before I pull the trigger on a streamer upgrade
❤ the baseball sound effect!
This deserves a comparo with the NAD M66! Thanks in advance…
You think that's something, wait until you see the The Eversolo DMP-A12!.............................
No wait till the 12!!. Then the 15!! All within 6 months!!!
love them all because they have native Apple Music to play hires lossless!
Yes, do agree with you. Became kind of too many flagships
Yeah - they'll give us three displays then as well!
It makes more sense to see it as a company with products at varied price points. Not unlike pretty much any other brand.
The reliability and longevity of this brand have yet to be proven. I will see when my DMP-A6 arrives.
I2S omission seems strange. Especially, when it is include on the DMP A8.
How does the user experience compare to blue sound? I will be interested in the sound comparison to the blue sound flagship when it becomes available. The evolution of these products have fast track pace!
User experience is awesome with Eversolo
How does it compare to the ECM 1 MKII High End DAC and Music Streamer?
Interested to know myself
luv the volume display, out of my price range though
Better than the Hi Fi Rose 150B? I am happy with mine. I bought it 3 years ago and the price has still not come down. Maybe with this they will lower the price.
Saying the clock is temperature controlled may lead one to believe it's TCXO when it's actually OCXO (so even better).
How would you rank the a10 vs Hifi Rose 130 vs Node Icon (I know different price point) - but curious to know which streamer has the better sound quality.
There are a few others you should review, the Atoll ST300 (waiting desperately for this one), the Gustard X30, the Gustard A26 III .....
The Atoll ST300 Signature is a stellar performer - it only lacks the 2 dedicated sub-outs which are required for my next rig.
@@SirMountainpass I had the ST-300 it sounds great but it coud have more resolution. Software is far behind other devices.
@
In my rig it was doing a great job (mainly Tidal - via Tidal Connect) in combo with my Focal Sopra 1 (featuring a fabulous beryllium tweeter) supported by an Sopra SW1000 sub.
Thanks for the review. How does it compare to the Electrocompaniet ECM 1 MK2 that you had in house?
Why do you decorate components with pink bits of potpourri looking like my Nan's dunny?
Are you an audio chef garnishing components with bits of plastic cherry blossom? 😅
Love the show btw just banter but also wtf.
Nice! Thanks for the first look.
Thanks!
@@HiFiHuff great review as always how does the dac compare to the Weiss 204? They are using similar dac chips.
How is the preamp section while using the streamer DAC? Can you compare to another preamp? 10 db of gain seems very low. This would make an efficient system if all you needed was an amp.
I am curious to know how it will sound as a stand-alone DAC only connected to a computer USB output thought its USB-B input?
Does not appear your were very enthusiastic about the A10
Right? Felt more like a reading of the spec sheet and less about its performance or preamp comparisons.
Two clock and Sabre 9039 pro dac,two trafo is high end class👍🏼😊
How does the dac compare to a denafrips venus 15th 2nd anniversary special edition 2nd full moon release?
Great looking product. I skipped through. Does this unit support Apple Music streaming natively? Thanks.
I've been looking at the new Aurender A 1000 at $3500 which is their least expensive piece. No pre amp but would still make a worthy comparison. I'm strictly analog at the moment so just taking my time. I'm sure you'll compare to some of your other favorites just for sound quality.
I am confident the A10 beats the Aurender 1000…
Doubtless.
How would you compare the capabilities of the Dac with the Holo Audio May KTE? Is the May a significant uplift soundwise?
I was looking for a streamer/Dac with two Subwoofer outputs and here it is.... Thousands of dollars more expensive than i thought 😂
Would you take this over Axxess Forte 1 ? I know this is a streamer the other is all in one
Planning to do forte 1 and x1 combo
is the A10 PEQ and/or EQ apply to every files format? I have an A8, The PEQ and/or EQ works with PCM only but not DSD.
At this point why not include an amp for an all in one clean integrated audio solution.
Mich würde interessieren ob Eversolo DMP-A10 + Endstufen bis 2000€ besser klingt als Electrocompaniet ECI-6 MKIII mit interne DAC und Streamer? MfG,
I am owner of aavik s180, i280 connected to b&w d3 800.
The streamer user experience is so poor with their stone age app mconnect.
Looking for options for streamer however the sound is no match to aavik. Would this one be close and/or better?
How do you compare this to Rose 150b?
İn which usage, acoustic calibration works? Streamer, Dac or both. I have a R2R dac, i could use room correction.
Both. Because it is also a DDC, you can feed a better DAC via SPDIF (unfortunately not I2S) with the PEQd or room corrected signal.
how does it compare wih the R2R DAC of the pontus 15th? thanks
Holy Moly 😎
Read review! Thanks! 😁
Thanks for the review. It would be nice to compare the sound of the streaming DAC with a similar priced Lumin streaming DAC (T3). Im reslly just into the best sound and imaging and dont care for all the DMP-A10 gimmicks. However if it sounds the same as the Lumin, then I would consider the DMP-A10. Lumin on the other hand still delivers firmware updates for old products - Eversolo we still dont know if they will provide that.
When plugged in via ARC, does it turn off/on instantly with the source TV? I have the new Aurender A1000 as a digital preamp for my TV and it shuts completely off when the TV does. Problem is that it takes 30 seconds to turn back on when I turn on the TV, which my wife is not fond of.
Waiting for the AMP-F10 review
Please elaborate...
Great Review! Does the A10 have an I2s output for connecting to an external DAC? The A8 has that output. Thanks.
I don't think it does
It is rather strange that Eversolo goes and includes an I²S connection on their DMP-A8 only to remove this option from their new flagship DMP-A10. It feels like a retrograde step - especially when considering the cost of this new 'flagship' model. 🤔
@@CletusVanDamme2011Not as strange as you might think, a number of higher end streamers like the Auraliac Aries G2.2 don’t include I2S, just USB and s/pdif. It’d be negligible expense for them to include, I’m sure they would if it delivered better sound than USB, so was more competitive with their competitors.. and yet they don’t.
@@Wharariki Thanks! I am not a DAC designer but I believe that the implementation of an i2S interface requires additional firmware development to support the protocol. My assumption is, eversolo did not want to incur the additional development time and cost of implementing and more importantly supporting the I2S interface. It is possible they don't see the sonic benefits.
Hi. Do you know if PlexAmp are supported on the DMP-A10?
How does it sound paired with the Borresen X1/X2?
I own the X2, do not have the X1. Still sounds like the X2. The character of the DAC is clean, clear, open, big stage, nice midrange and tight bass. The amp used also makes a difference and the EC amp I use has a solidity and richness about it that sounds different than other amps I’ve had or have. In any case the A10 sounds great, and much better than I expected it to sound. Thanks for watching.
@ thank you for the swift reply. Always waiting for your next review 👌
Is Rose Rd 160. In test modus.
What do you think about "norma audio" from Italy?If you never heard about them,pls get sometime and find out !
I2S?
At this level, it is much better to buy a Naim NCS 222.
Better for who?
It sounds great but is otherwise the most boring piece of HiFi equipment 😵💫
Naim measures surprisingly low end. So hard to see why one would buy one.
Can A-10 be used as a streamer bypassing dac?
Yes, I talk about that in this review. Thanks!
Great! Thank you!
Any plans to review Luxman NT-07 Streamer?
According to the analog xlr and rca outputs:
Can these be set indepentdently, so - as an exampel - the xlr output is regulated, and the rca output is fixed level . So that you have a fixed line level output to a headphone amplifier.
Hmmm I wonder if it compares favorably to your Electrocompaniet
Agree… would have liked at least a comment on one vs the other.
interesting direction, a huge display on the unit im sitting 5 meters :) so less interaction with the screen maximum enjoying the look, at the same time in my hand a phone where i can controll everything:) i prefer not to have too much in the unit only what is really need
It still does not play TH-cam Videos like the Hifi Rose. RCA Connectors don't look high quality compare to Hifi Rose RS150B.
I'm being not many people watch TH-cam on the rose
you can upload youtube music apk file through the otg port and play back youtube videos
Who cares about playing TH-cam vids on it
Does the A10 have I2S, because cant to see it on the back picture
no, its all in one segment product:) we do not need that " studio game"...
@Fotoklasika why include usb then 🤔
How would you compare this streamer to the hifi rose 150?
Does the app use Bluetooth connection?
mmm... It didn't touch your heart 🤔
😂
Brilliant.
what loudspeakers in which room do I need for the A-10? at price around 3800€ plus decent amp which fits the A-10 The loudspeaker should cost what? 10.000€? 90% of the consumer have between 20 and 30 square meter living room. Anyway nice A-10. Which amp you suggest? Has it room correction eg an eq?
So how much difference do different power amps make. If you buy this it will sound completely different on different speakers, but once you have made your speaker selection the only variable is the power amp. Do different power amps make much difference or is it just down to power?
Amps make huge difference not only power
Eversolo doesn't support TH-cam app, and Hifirose doesn't support Apple Music BitPerfect. It shouldn't be that hard, so why can't they fix it? 😂
There are so many services available. Need to pick and chose which one to support.
Although I’m not a fan of class D amps, how does this pair with the Eversolo AMP-F2 amplifier?
They have just announced a matching a/b amp
Amp f10...looking forward to reviews on the combo
The A8 is very high value for the price. The A10 .... not so much as in the $4k range there is some serious competition. Once it hits the market I might try the A10 and see how it compares, sonically, to my A8, but only from only from a seller that accepts returns.
@@joeythedime1838 the A10 is a much nicer unit than the A8, in parts, features and sound . So there’s that. Much more refined in sound. As one climbs the ladder the performance increases. So all up to what one is looking for in price vs performance.
@@joeythedime1838 what competition can u mention few
@@HiFiHuffCan it compete with the T+A DAC 200 sound quality wise?
@@mariuszszymczewski8590 HiFi Rose RS150B, Aurender A1000, cocktailAudio X45Pro
Two clocks, one for CD 44.1 kHz and the other for 48/96/192. Huge heat sinks though.
Does it support MQA?
Yes
HI from Brazil
Hey!
But stull no headphones output! :{
My Grado Labs headphones have been collecting dust for a number of years while enjoying my Focal Sopra‘s 😅✌️
No most important digital out IIS, but A8 has that... baaad
Eversolo needs now 2 monoblocks Power amplifier.
Their amps can be made to monoblocks easily with a flick o a switch.
Just need them to be a bit better 😅
F10 is coming - maybe it can be operated in bridge mode, tbc.
Just get some Pass Labs ones
@@Pete.across.the.street
They are the deal, albeit at a price 💯
Topping B200; Boxem; Audioholic
I have the entry level version with the Teddy Pardo out board power supply. You'd think that with that extra coin, you'd get 20 different meters and eq to choose from, a HUGE left to right screen, etc. This is not worth the coin.
It might be an upgrade, but not when it's way more expensive than the a8. No thanks.
Question and potentially a game changing one. Does it (also) high pass the main speakers when using the xover subwoofer integration settings? (I hope it does)
Yes, it does!
merci beaucoup
And still the identical 4 VU meters? Boring! Where's the iconic McIntosh VU meters style??
The least important part
A6... A8..... Special Edition..... A10..... then .... A12 ?
Hopefully
Separates vs a one and done😅
Thanks for sharing
Question. With the preamp functionality, if I’m using it as a streamer only via USB, can you still use the sub outputs?
How would this compare sound wise to the Marantz AV10?
Dans 3 mois, ils sortiront le DMP-A8 Master Edition, puis dans 6 mois le DMP-A10 Master Edition, dans 1 ans le DMP-A12, et dans 1,5 ans le DMP-A12 Master Edition, et puis, et puis, et puis, c'est sans fin comme musique...
On dirait qu'ils nous prennent pour des pigeons, et ce bouton de volume taillé façon diamant, avec encore un écran au centre, que c'est laid ! ☹
I'm sure at 3500$ they are flying off the shelves !
Yeah they should include an Amplifier with that price 😀
Getting a lot of pricey kit these days. Don’t hear you saying you’re buying all your stuff anymore…
so... you want audio reviews every 2-3 years per component???? Be real, man.
Your Price: $5,299.00 CAD$ - don't be fooled, this is just a personal computer that plays digital 'stuff'
Way too expensive for a kind of facelift of the DMP-A8! The Rose RB 150 wipes the floor with the A10 😂
And costs almost double the price too lol
i dont think so.
How do u know that
The shame is though… it is so close to rs130 regarding price, the hifi rose is a clear winner
The a10 is 4200 in EU and The rose rs 130 is 6100, i think that is a not so smal gap in price, and you get a lot moore functions with The a10.
What about The rs130 makes it better except for that sweet screen?
No, rose is a lot more
You still need a Dac with the rs130…a lot higher cost then the A10
@@davidflack1466 its sound!
@@bobzador4038
And the buggy Rose app keeps you busy 😅
They make an affordable one and then a very costly one,wtf?
How dare they lol
Business 101 - Cheapest entry-level Eversolo Streamer DMP A-6 (happy current owner,
More expensive Eversolo Streamer DMP A-8,
Flagship, most expensive (so far) Eversolo Streamer DMP A-10
Is normally how it works in a business point of view
@@Pete.across.the.streetI know right, the cheek of it!
I don’t get it why ppl whining about models they have options for all price brackets