Technically he did. I think the issue if he re-did the list for every single GAME, it'd get repetitive quickly for all the Pokemon that show up in several games. This is more meant as an overarching list.
In game you won’t get regenerator. Either leaf guard or chlorophyll. If you get chlorophyll it is actually not only bulky but I great sweeper with both physical and special attacks
@@YeahItsSeth I actually don't think so. I ban it because you can scheme Platinum so you 100% get it with doups clause, but I think it can be vulnerable if it fails to OHKO something in the E4. Still a dummy good pokemon. I'd say it's a bit better than Gyarados. So it's kinda borderline. I'd say it's a probably ban, but if you don't it's not like shameful or anything
This has become my favourite yt channel in a short span of time! Your deep knowledge and the way you calculate every single thing is just mesmerizing! And ofc I love the rankings as well :) thank you and hope you have a lovely day, keep safe bro 👊
@@notscorchingsands9718 I mean...we've all been there. I was talking mostly about his calculations and movepools he is aware of, strategy and "pivoting" as he calls it 😅
Man I think Staraptor, for how easy it is to get and how good it is throughout the whole game, is arguably S tier. I haven't used it in any games other than DPP, though.
There aren’t that many ice types. Those types are pretty easy to counter if you get a decent team. It doesn’t do anything first gym, it sweeps second gym, it’s ok against fantina, destroys meline, is ok against wake, then by the 6th badge it should have evolved and knows cc to put his steel types in place, same with Candice, and for volkner you’d be best benching it.
@@Negawatttttttt11 meh reckless is probably better because it powers up bravebird and double edge, and bumps up it's okho range for a lot of pokemon especially if you run a band on it. 120 attack is really good especially with it's movepool, but it's not bulky enough without intimidate to tank hits so idk.
Seeing Gallade and Froslass in A-Tier does put a smile on my face. They both sweep through Cynthia's entire team in my first Pokemon Platinum Nuzlocke.
The problem I have with the glameow line is that by the time you CAN catch one, it’s not very good anymore. Look at its beginning learnset: fake out, hypnosis, quick attack, etc. it evolves in the early 20s.
@@freaky_owl5833 Y E S!!!!!! PP Regigigas; I just see people disconnecting from the internet in my head xD Would be the biggest threat in the franchise lolol
Me: Man my platinum Nuzlocke team ripped through damn near everything put in front of it. Even after my Grotle and Bronzor died, they stayed together completely all the way to Cynthia I must’ve had a pretty good team considering I’m not the best player by any means. My team: 4 A tiers (Quagsire, Gastrodon, Staraptor, Houndoom) , 1 S tier (Gyarados), 1 banned (Garchomp)
Something I've always thought would be an interesting play through of a pokemon game, is that you can only use pokemon for a gym that you would find naturally in the wild between that gym and the previous one. So like you clear Gym 1, then before you fight gym 2, you must replace every member of your team with pokemon found in routes on the way to the next gym (ideal pathing when possible.) Probably not the most interesting but I wanted to share the idea, I love your video's!
I played a run like that in Black/White, mirroring N and his Pokemon teams. It's actually very fun and pretty challenging with certain gyms, and you get to see a lot of Pokemon shine in unorthodox ways.
rotom doesn’t tend to be as good in gen 4 playthroughs since you can’t get it in diamond and pearl until getting the national dex and in platinum you can get it pre national dex at a higher level, but in order to get access to the room with the appliances rotom can possess, you needed an event item that’s no longer being distributed so if you don’t have an action replay, good luck i should know, i caught the static rotom in my platinum nuzlocke, and i recently learned about how you need an event item to change its form, so that’s a bummer
Also in Gen IV all forms are Electric/Ghost, which is a bummer. However I'm using the base form in my casual Platinum run, it's cool. Fast, CRAZY Special Attack, STAB Thunderbolt with discharge, but it is very frail.
Burnt Pizza Bobby Newman idk I kinda fuck with some specific themes in gen 8.. I like the more "wow" factor in those gym battle themes and marnies final battle theme is great
porygon z is insane for having one of the highest special attack stats, conversion, and adaptability, as well as a great move pool. so juicy. best pokemon ever.
Gliscor is an absolute MONSTER. After seeing him put in S tier i gave him a try for the first time. I swept the entire elite four plus champ with just Gliscor using Swords dance, Aerial ace, EQ, and X scissor. Big ol sheeeeeesh
Bronzong is really good against team galactic and was one of the most important members of my team during my Platinum Nuzlocke I did half a decade ago. I can definitely see it in A tier (though I might also be biassed since it's also one of my top 5 favorite pokemon)
I too think Bronzong is A tier, but unlike you I HATE that thing. Back when I played Platinum for the first and second time, I ended up with trans without fire types, and with half the bronzor/Bronzong line having Levitate... It wasn't fun. Plus early game those things have confuse ray AND hypnosis, making them a pain to fight. Oh, and I also as a kid got stuck in the cave below the bike road because I didn't have a flash poke, and I had already picked up the little girl so I couldn't escape rope out. Being in an endless loop of having to fight those things while getting my pokemon healed, all the while running blindly through that cave: it was not fun.
Hi! I saw you in my recommendation so I watched you and just immediately subscribed to you since there was actually someone who plays nuzlocke and other pokemon games.
Arceus is probably close to the most worthy of being banned since you can literally change its type to whatever you need in every situation + stab Judgement + huge move pool. That would pretty much be unstoppable lol
@@ShawFujikawa I couldn't tell you because I don't play Nuzlockes. But I know there ARE some in which Legendaries are available, albeit late game. All I'm saying that if it were available, it's one of the most ban worthy Pokemon imo.
I'm surprised you put Torterra so high, and also happy. That's one of my favorite pokemons and I'm also salty because everyone says it's bad just because it's slow.
Manaphy should be banned. Access to lots of powerful special water moves, and Tail Glow makes it one of the most potentially potent sweepers in the game. Add rain to give it a huge boost, and activate hydration and Manaphy can be more or less immortal.
Tail glow is arguably one of the best boosting moves in the game and Manaphy has amazing bulk. There is no reason why it shouldn’t be banned lol (Agree with you 100%)
Earth Power PLZ you can, but you’re right if someone is going to play all the way through their sealed copy of Pokémon Ranger they should probably be allowed to use Manaphy no matter how broken it is lol
Torterra would probably have been so much more loved if not for Garchomp just existing. Poor lad just couldn't keep up with the funny land shark. And while I've nearly always used Luxray, a friend opened my eyes to how good Rotom is, even in its base form because I never got the event to unlock it's other forms it's a really good special attacker. Not to mention STAB Shock Wave shuts down all of Barry's Staravia Double Team shenanigans that I used to cower before as a kid. Levitate is the icing on the cake, removing it's Ground weakness and making it pair well in doubles with every earthquake user in the game. Just, er, until you get to Wake, and most of his Mon have Dark moves, and you probably won't be able to outspeed his Floatzel. Also Gallade slaps and I've only recently found that out for some reason
Floatzel is WAY better than you gave it credit for imo, in platinum it gets crunch right at the level cap for fantina, and waterfall plus crunch sweeps the last 3 elite four members.
I've no clue why im watching this at 1 in the am. I haven't played any pokemon games and the only pokemon content i've watched are jaidens nuzlocke stuff
I think Lickilicky is A tier, because it has nice bulk and decent offense. He can be used as special or physical attacker, mixed, or tank, and has access to many support moves.
Lopunny is a really good Pokémon in early game. You do have to play around the 50% chance of Klutz and 33% chance of being level 13 in Platinum (thanks a lot, devs,) but if you do, you can evolve it into Lopunny right away, and it'll get Return at level 13 with at least 220 Friendship. That means that it will have 80 base power STAB out of the gate at level 13. For early game, it actually has pretty good stats. 76 Attack at this point is usable, its bulk is decent, and it will outspeed everything else. You can get Buneary before the third Gym in Black 2, but this is a lot worse since you'll need the Return TM to give it Return. But then in USUM, you can find it on Route 1 before you even do the second fight with Hau, and now you don't have to worry about when you evolve it, because it automatically gets Return on evolving. You can use it to nuke the early game of USUM and it'll keep performing about up until the trip to the Aether Foundation on its own. It also gets both Baton Pass and Agility, so that's something.
Honestly sad to see Wormadam Trash cloak so low, but its understandable. But that steel bug typing is amazing for some early fights if you take the time to train it up (if I get it I usually get it to wormadam at Eterna gym). It can be used against Gardenia's entire team, and hard blocks Roserade who can't do more than 6 damage. Can be used against Jupiter's Skuntank to tank the big hits, (I used a intimidate switch Wormadam tactic so Wormadam would tank hits). But after that is done it kinda wears off like most early bugs, as it's metal move comes very late, and the next gyms aren't kind to it, even Maylene dispite it getting psybeam. But in that eterna section its really niche but good.
Simple Rotom,Simlpy because of the triple immunity(ground, normal,fighting), acess to baton pass/nasty plot/willowish etc etc and the fact that is a staple encounter if played properly, should be high A tier, atleast ingen 4 games.
Did my very first nuzzlocke before finding this channel. I used items (badly), didn't pivot, played on switch mode, and even used palkia. Gonna go again on set mode, cap items at 3 per battle, try and pivot more, and I won't use palkia. (If I get garchomp though i might use it. Cynthia's is so scary)
@@lunarmathemagics7881 you'll need to catch a female Snorunt and use a Dawn Stone. Not a guaranteed encounter by any means, I think it is like 10% in route 216 and 20% in 217 and acuity lakefront, only at night, so that's an issue. But if you find it, it is worthy
Starting my first Nuzlocke with Pokemon Pearl (my first time playing pearl as well). Glad I found this video cause I know nothing about gen 4 besides the starters.
Is this for competitive, nuzlockes, or just normal playthroughs? How are some evolutions worse than their previous forms? Is this their ranking in a specific gen or overall
I would argue that Lopunny has a bit more use than you let on. It may not have incredible stats, but it's a great baton passer. For a nuzlocke I did, I used one in combination with my Raichu. Defense curl a bunch, then switch into Nasty Plot thunderbolt Raichu. It's perfect. Made Raichu hold the wide lens, allowing Sweet Kiss to become useful and iron tail nice for type coverage. One of my favorite combinations I've ever had in a playthrough before. I did lose Lopunny accidentally in the fight against Candice though. Woops. Also, I would argue that Pachirisu came in handy for a lot as well. Being able to learn sweet kiss, captivate, and charm made it perfect for stalling or softening for stronger members to come out. Some pokemon are more useful beyond their strength.
Honestly, Empoleon should be S teir in my eyes because of the fact that with its steel typing it basically resisted everything and I think pre-Gen 5 steel types were also resistant to dark and ghost. Empoleon can also learn flying and ice moves as well
I feel like none of the pseudo legendarys should be banned because the whole point of them is grinding them until they are fully evolved, which usually happens right before the elite 4. So if you can keep that Pokémon alive until then, you deserve to have it. Same goes for gyarados or other Pokémon like that.
Well, unless you use Rare Candies like PC does, where you'll likely just keep it in the box until the level cap allows you to level it up to that point and actually use it.
Gallade is actually much better imo, close to S Tier. Gets great moves in CC, Drain Punch, Psycho Cutand Leaf Blade, can learn Punches and other cute moves, does an INSANE amount of damage, has good typing and good SpDef. Carried my last Platinum run on it's back (since you can get him before Gym 4 in Plat OwO)
@O K There are so many worst starters out there tho. As long as you are aware of strong physical hits and have type coverage you should be fine. Gallage is especially good in Platinum, where you can get it before the 4th Gym and it helps against gyms 4 to 7 a lot. In other games you get it a bit later, so it's not as good, but in Plat he's S tier IMO.
@O K I speak based on Platinum. You can get Gallade before gym 4. It has type advantage over most of gym 4 and handles the neutral matchups just fine. It greatly helps in gym 5 due to Leaf Blade being a lv 1 move. It sweeps gym 6. It sweeps most of gym 7, with Froslass being the only inconvenience. It carries midgame alone thanks to stats only matched by a few pokemon at lv 20. It's one of the best fighting type available and one of the best psychic type available if you dont use Trade Evolutions (even tho it contends the spot with Infernape and Lucario later, but having 2 of them is just fine in a team). Has high physical attack paired with good stabs from early into the game. Has solid SpDef paired with a draining move, optimal for no item runs. Learns: Psycho Cut for early STAB Zen Headbutt early from tutor Drain Punch for STAB and sustain Night Slash Leaf Blade Earthquake Rock Slide Poison Jab Thunder / Ice / Fire Punch (most of the moves listed thus far extremely early) lategame Close Combat some decent support move (Screens, TWave, Swagger, Trick Room, Swords Dance, Substitute) Of the S Tiers available early and midgame in Platinum: I usually ban Gyarados, but while it has similar stats and a strong ability in Intimidate, Gallade has a much wider movepool I usually ban Blissey, but it's a completely different pokemon and there's no comparison to be had. I play without trade Evos so Alakazam is banned, but even then Gallade has comparable attack and more bulk agaisnt Alakazam's higher speed (even tho i'll agree, Zam is better) Snorlax is ridiculously unlikely in Platinum Lucario is a contender for sure, but while he's more versatile Gallade has much more atk and Gallade can be found much earlier Magnezone is completely different but even then, he's a later encounter and he has a far more limited movepool (but better stats overall) Crobat is amazing, amost ban worthy. Togekiss needs a lot of work to be good, but it's a bit better than Gallade as far as utility and coverage go (Gallade is still superior in the damage department). Gliscor is actually not amazing in Gen 4, he doesn't learn any decent move without important TMs or Tutors and is overall much bulkier but deals much less damage; he doesn't even learn fly .-. Mamoswine is available much later and has slightly better stats and a narrow (but strong) movepool. Uxie is available super later and he's a bulky pokemon, not much to compare. I play without Trade evos, so no Scizor (nor Machamps, just to mention him here, but Gallade has less physical bulk and more movepool than Machamp) I dont really wanna go into all the A tiers, but as you can see i have some arguments. And i could talk about how it's decent against half of Cyrus' pokemons or half of Cynthia's, but that's not where he shines the most. It's not amazing lategame, but if you get a male Ralts you can have a 518 base stat pokemon at lv 20, smacking everyone with 125 base attack for more than half of your run, and it's decent lategame. This argument is for Plat only, in other games you get Dawn Stone much later and it's not as good.
What do you mean Bronzong doesn't have as good of an offense than Skarmory? It has higher offensive stats and a great offensive stab typing and decent coverage.
Base form Shaymin has exactly the same BST as Shaymin S with a slightly different distribution. Shaymin S is a little bit fast with slightly higher attack and special attack while Shaymin Land is bulkier and far more balanced across the board.. Even in land form the stats are still very high, and it's like that for everything. It has no weak stats. Still has Serene Grace. Still has STAB Seed Flare. Still has Air Slash for absurd flinch spamming. Still is INSANE coverage with it's movepool. If you get a turn you are either 1 shotting with OPAF Seed Flare, or you are going to literally just flinch stun the opponent to death. It also gets access to Synthesis. This mon is nuts. There is no way you can look at this shit and not concluded that it is broken as hell. Because of Serene Grace Shaymin S makes a strong case for being maybe the most powerful mon in the entire series so far. Slightly less broken than that is still broken as shit. If you are nuzlocking with a randomizer, and this shows up in your run there is no way you aren't happy to see it and there is zero way you dont use it unless you banned it.
Once you’re done with every gen you should do a nuzlocke with only F tier pokemons
he already did something like that for Pokemon Emerald actually, it was a really interesting run
His Trashlocke!
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That is not a bad idea. A man claiming to be the best at nuzlocke he should put his money where his mouth is
FlamingWalrus317 In his trashlocke there were pokemon that he considers C or even B tier. I want a run with purely F tier garbage
Notice how Cynthia's comp is S,S,A,A,B and Banned
There should be more champions with S and banned teir Pokemon
In terms of nuzlocking that is, competitive is a bit different
@@milesandrews6711 in terms of nuzlock is the same thing with in terms of "history"
@@camilopalma1223?
And the banned is... Garchomp
I wish he'd made a list for each individual gen so we could use it as a cheat sheet when planning our teams haha
Technically he did. I think the issue if he re-did the list for every single GAME, it'd get repetitive quickly for all the Pokemon that show up in several games. This is more meant as an overarching list.
Glad to see Tangrowth in A. That pokemon is so underrated.
Unless if your in comptetive singles... Regenerator Assault Vest Tangrowth, ugh...
@@rjc6437 that is where I originally found its use
Yeah, a fat, catch-all wall unless you have knock off or the right coverage
Tangrowth should be S tier if it has max iv’s and ev’s in hp and defense plus with a great move pool and regenerator
In game you won’t get regenerator. Either leaf guard or chlorophyll. If you get chlorophyll it is actually not only bulky but I great sweeper with both physical and special attacks
Pokémon Challenges: *bans Garchomp*
Cynthia: *laughs*
Why do the ban garchomp? Is he just really that good?
@@YeahItsSeth pretty much good speed, excellent attack, is suprisingly bulky, and STAB equake
@@NippleTechnology-cc8bg if you have stab earthquake
Thats a bonus point
@@YeahItsSeth I actually don't think so. I ban it because you can scheme Platinum so you 100% get it with doups clause, but I think it can be vulnerable if it fails to OHKO something in the E4. Still a dummy good pokemon. I'd say it's a bit better than Gyarados. So it's kinda borderline. I'd say it's a probably ban, but if you don't it's not like shameful or anything
Garchomp is so powerful, stab earthquake and a sword dance outrage set can 2 hit KO every pokemon back in gen 4
If you hear “Probably worse than Ledian” then you know it’s bad
Almost put Masquerain, no.
@@amparolopez6236 Ralts is
Honestly i think ledian is worse than krikketune, surprisingly not by much but worse.
But Kritketune has the aesthetics
The problem with Ledian,
Is it's stats conflict with it's abilities,
Where Kricketunes don't.
This has become my favourite yt channel in a short span of time! Your deep knowledge and the way you calculate every single thing is just mesmerizing! And ofc I love the rankings as well :) thank you and hope you have a lovely day, keep safe bro 👊
"Deep knowledge" calls the pokemon wrong names
@@notscorchingsands9718 I mean...we've all been there. I was talking mostly about his calculations and movepools he is aware of, strategy and "pivoting" as he calls it 😅
Shutup bot. TH-cam doesn't need to push this tool.
Man I think Staraptor, for how easy it is to get and how good it is throughout the whole game, is arguably S tier. I haven't used it in any games other than DPP, though.
Idk it’s [flying] type kinda sucks thou, fuck ton of rock and ice and the game too.
There aren’t that many ice types. Those types are pretty easy to counter if you get a decent team. It doesn’t do anything first gym, it sweeps second gym, it’s ok against fantina, destroys meline, is ok against wake, then by the 6th badge it should have evolved and knows cc to put his steel types in place, same with Candice, and for volkner you’d be best benching it.
Imagine staraptor with rock head
Holy crap that would be busted
@@Negawatttttttt11 meh reckless is probably better because it powers up bravebird and double edge, and bumps up it's okho range for a lot of pokemon especially if you run a band on it. 120 attack is really good especially with it's movepool, but it's not bulky enough without intimidate to tank hits so idk.
“I love driftblim but it’s unfortunately not very good” proceeds to carry him through gen 8 nuzlock
Gen 8 is insanely easy
Once he is finished with the complete list, someone should make him a rom hack where he can only encounter f tier pokemon
already done
@@notscorchingsands9718 Do it in Gen 5 with all the Pokemon so far
That's why he does Trashlocke
@@Diogo20PT lmao true
Emerald kaizo:
Seeing Gallade and Froslass in A-Tier does put a smile on my face.
They both sweep through Cynthia's entire team in my first Pokemon Platinum Nuzlocke.
Got nothing to say so I'm just going to help the algorithm
I also have nothing to say
The problem I have with the glameow line is that by the time you CAN catch one, it’s not very good anymore.
Look at its beginning learnset: fake out, hypnosis, quick attack, etc. it evolves in the early 20s.
God I wish Regigigas had a usable ability. It would be so good, insane stats.
If only!!!!!! Can you imagine Protean, Defiant, Guts, Adaptability, or Rock Head; Regigigas... OR MOXIE!!!!!!
B r o k e n.
@@TONYZANDERZ Might I suggest: Huge/Pure Power Regigigas
@@freaky_owl5833 Y E S!!!!!! PP Regigigas; I just see people disconnecting from the internet in my head xD
Would be the biggest threat in the franchise lolol
What if they made a pokemon with like 10k base stats that'd be crazy omg guys could you imagine crazyyy
So you need another broken pokemon
It makes me so happy that froslass is a useable pokemon, always been my favorite from a design and lore standpoint
It's so fast that it's insane, I've out speed and one shotted Cynthia's Garchomp with my a Froslass two times.
Me: Man my platinum Nuzlocke team ripped through damn near everything put in front of it. Even after my Grotle and Bronzor died, they stayed together completely all the way to Cynthia I must’ve had a pretty good team considering I’m not the best player by any means.
My team: 4 A tiers (Quagsire, Gastrodon, Staraptor, Houndoom) , 1 S tier (Gyarados), 1 banned (Garchomp)
“Garchomp should always be banned because of it being super broken” *damn it*
bibarel is my favorite dog
Same
Just wait for it though, this is gonna be one of the comments with a bunch of replysw
:)
Dudes it's a beaver
There’s just guy in the comments who’s like: ThAts NoT a DoG
Love these. Patiently waiting on gen 5, my most nuzlocked gen
yo should i nuzlocke gen 5???
Absolutely. BW2>>>>>>BW
@@ramrose3769 it'd way easier right
@@tangytim6699 more variety 4 nuzlocke purposes bw2. Challenge modes elite 4 is pretty tough tbh
Something I've always thought would be an interesting play through of a pokemon game, is that you can only use pokemon for a gym that you would find naturally in the wild between that gym and the previous one.
So like you clear Gym 1, then before you fight gym 2, you must replace every member of your team with pokemon found in routes on the way to the next gym (ideal pathing when possible.)
Probably not the most interesting but I wanted to share the idea, I love your video's!
I played a run like that in Black/White, mirroring N and his Pokemon teams. It's actually very fun and pretty challenging with certain gyms, and you get to see a lot of Pokemon shine in unorthodox ways.
rotom doesn’t tend to be as good in gen 4 playthroughs since you can’t get it in diamond and pearl until getting the national dex and in platinum you can get it pre national dex at a higher level, but in order to get access to the room with the appliances rotom can possess, you needed an event item that’s no longer being distributed so if you don’t have an action replay, good luck
i should know, i caught the static rotom in my platinum nuzlocke, and i recently learned about how you need an event item to change its form, so that’s a bummer
Also in Gen IV all forms are Electric/Ghost, which is a bummer. However I'm using the base form in my casual Platinum run, it's cool. Fast, CRAZY Special Attack, STAB Thunderbolt with discharge, but it is very frail.
@@thiagoveloso7610 95 special attack is not that crazy lol
Waiting for gen 5 music tier list give it to me
Who cares about video game music
@@bobbynewman9321 most people...
@@wonkey9125 shore they do
Gen 4 has the best music gen 5s is good but gen 4 is more nostalgic
Burnt Pizza Bobby Newman idk I kinda fuck with some specific themes in gen 8.. I like the more "wow" factor in those gym battle themes and marnies final battle theme is great
Banned list: a few pokemon
Sinnoh: hello there
porygon z is insane for having one of the highest special attack stats, conversion, and adaptability, as well as a great move pool. so juicy. best pokemon ever.
Gliscor is an absolute MONSTER. After seeing him put in S tier i gave him a try for the first time. I swept the entire elite four plus champ with just Gliscor using Swords dance, Aerial ace, EQ, and X scissor. Big ol sheeeeeesh
My favorite Pokémon definitely
@@Tobtakular same and that was before i saw this vid so its really weird seeing him in s tier ngl
PC: Chatot is bad
Pokemon reborn's Taka: Allow me to introduce myself.
Bronzong is really good against team galactic and was one of the most important members of my team during my Platinum Nuzlocke I did half a decade ago. I can definitely see it in A tier (though I might also be biassed since it's also one of my top 5 favorite pokemon)
I too think Bronzong is A tier, but unlike you I HATE that thing. Back when I played Platinum for the first and second time, I ended up with trans without fire types, and with half the bronzor/Bronzong line having Levitate... It wasn't fun. Plus early game those things have confuse ray AND hypnosis, making them a pain to fight. Oh, and I also as a kid got stuck in the cave below the bike road because I didn't have a flash poke, and I had already picked up the little girl so I couldn't escape rope out. Being in an endless loop of having to fight those things while getting my pokemon healed, all the while running blindly through that cave: it was not fun.
can't wait for the furry tier list
Early game simple Bibarrel with defence curl and roll out might be gimmicky but i'd love to try that out
BIBAREL IS NOT SPELLED WITH 2 R'S!
Hi! I saw you in my recommendation so I watched you and just immediately subscribed to you since there was actually someone who plays nuzlocke and other pokemon games.
Bibarel is good early-game because it evolves so early (Lvl 15). Late game, it's stats aren't that great, but it can still be a good HM slave.
Arceus is probably close to the most worthy of being banned since you can literally change its type to whatever you need in every situation + stab Judgement + huge move pool. That would pretty much be unstoppable lol
lmao what Nuzlockes are you playing where you get access to Arceus and can actually use it in the run?
@@ShawFujikawa I couldn't tell you because I don't play Nuzlockes. But I know there ARE some in which Legendaries are available, albeit late game. All I'm saying that if it were available, it's one of the most ban worthy Pokemon imo.
Vespiquen eats all the opposition if you get it early, but it usually falls off around the second or third gym
These videos have been awesome to listen to while walk in circles shiny hunting. Thanks!
Lucario is my fav to use, glad to see you like him too
furry 👆
I'm surprised you put Torterra so high, and also happy. That's one of my favorite pokemons and I'm also salty because everyone says it's bad just because it's slow.
Me sees Lucario at the S tier: *insert extreme applause and mad cheering*!!!
Manaphy should be banned. Access to lots of powerful special water moves, and Tail Glow makes it one of the most potentially potent sweepers in the game.
Add rain to give it a huge boost, and activate hydration and Manaphy can be more or less immortal.
Tail glow is arguably one of the best boosting moves in the game and Manaphy has amazing bulk. There is no reason why it shouldn’t be banned lol (Agree with you 100%)
You can't even get it lol
Earth Power PLZ you can, but you’re right if someone is going to play all the way through their sealed copy of Pokémon Ranger they should probably be allowed to use Manaphy no matter how broken it is lol
Bear in mind it only boosts by 2 like nasty plot in gen 3 and 4
@@notscorchingsands9718 if you play renegade platinum you can, which he has
I did an entire sinnoh run with bidoof and it did surprisingly well so I can confirm it's not that bad
Torterra would probably have been so much more loved if not for Garchomp just existing. Poor lad just couldn't keep up with the funny land shark.
And while I've nearly always used Luxray, a friend opened my eyes to how good Rotom is, even in its base form because I never got the event to unlock it's other forms it's a really good special attacker. Not to mention STAB Shock Wave shuts down all of Barry's Staravia Double Team shenanigans that I used to cower before as a kid. Levitate is the icing on the cake, removing it's Ground weakness and making it pair well in doubles with every earthquake user in the game. Just, er, until you get to Wake, and most of his Mon have Dark moves, and you probably won't be able to outspeed his Floatzel.
Also Gallade slaps and I've only recently found that out for some reason
This video just showed me there were a lot less gen 4 Pokémon than I thought lol
Kricketune actually destroys early game. It carried me through the first three gyms in Reborn
Floatzel is WAY better than you gave it credit for imo, in platinum it gets crunch right at the level cap for fantina, and waterfall plus crunch sweeps the last 3 elite four members.
I ain't banning garchomp.
Waiting for gen 5 so god damn hard
I love gen 5
I like Gen 5.
@@amazingsuperdan144 Me Too.
Excadrill in S or should be banned
@@trent800 fact
1:06 When he said “Best normal type so far.” my TH-cam crashed.
Lickilicky is fire btw. Attack is great defense and sp defense are fantastic and hp is amazing. Teach it rest and sleep talk and u got a champion
Bidoof is definitely underrated! Makes such a useful hm slave 😂
simple
"God you fucking suck Pachurisu"
Pachirisu in VGC 2014:
That's where you are wrong.
PC gets to each of the pokemon I usually use in my normal/nuzlocke runs
Pc:"this thing is garbage" "you should never use this starter"
I've no clue why im watching this at 1 in the am. I haven't played any pokemon games and the only pokemon content i've watched are jaidens nuzlocke stuff
I think Lickilicky is A tier, because it has nice bulk and decent offense. He can be used as special or physical attacker, mixed, or tank, and has access to many support moves.
LICKILICKY IS AN IT, NOT A HE!
Yay my favorite pokemon lucario is in S tier lets go.
Lopunny is a really good Pokémon in early game.
You do have to play around the 50% chance of Klutz and 33% chance of being level 13 in Platinum (thanks a lot, devs,) but if you do, you can evolve it into Lopunny right away, and it'll get Return at level 13 with at least 220 Friendship. That means that it will have 80 base power STAB out of the gate at level 13.
For early game, it actually has pretty good stats. 76 Attack at this point is usable, its bulk is decent, and it will outspeed everything else.
You can get Buneary before the third Gym in Black 2, but this is a lot worse since you'll need the Return TM to give it Return.
But then in USUM, you can find it on Route 1 before you even do the second fight with Hau, and now you don't have to worry about when you evolve it, because it automatically gets Return on evolving. You can use it to nuke the early game of USUM and it'll keep performing about up until the trip to the Aether Foundation on its own. It also gets both Baton Pass and Agility, so that's something.
Honestly sad to see Wormadam Trash cloak so low, but its understandable. But that steel bug typing is amazing for some early fights if you take the time to train it up (if I get it I usually get it to wormadam at Eterna gym). It can be used against Gardenia's entire team, and hard blocks Roserade who can't do more than 6 damage. Can be used against Jupiter's Skuntank to tank the big hits, (I used a intimidate switch Wormadam tactic so Wormadam would tank hits). But after that is done it kinda wears off like most early bugs, as it's metal move comes very late, and the next gyms aren't kind to it, even Maylene dispite it getting psybeam. But in that eterna section its really niche but good.
Yeah he disregarded it way too quickly
Staraptor: best normal flying
My Togekiss having serene grace equipped with kings rock and uses air slash
I like Rhyperior for the better ability in Solid Rock and the ability to hold leftovers + slightly more firepower
compared to Rhydon
We need the Part 3 of rants
I love your ranking system because you don't rank like a competitive battler and rank like just a gamer
Tail glow manaphy is straight up busted with its learn set
Pro nuzlocker reacts to pro nuzlocker reacts to pro nuzlocker
Simple Rotom,Simlpy because of the triple immunity(ground, normal,fighting), acess to baton pass/nasty plot/willowish etc etc and the fact that is a staple encounter if played properly, should be high A tier, atleast ingen 4 games.
dont call me weird but i think challenges' voice is rly soothing, i like to listen to it in the back when im gaming
Did my very first nuzzlocke before finding this channel. I used items (badly), didn't pivot, played on switch mode, and even used palkia. Gonna go again on set mode, cap items at 3 per battle, try and pivot more, and I won't use palkia. (If I get garchomp though i might use it. Cynthia's is so scary)
You can out speed and one shot her Garchomp with a Froslass pretty easily tho
@@thiagoveloso7610 i never did see one, but I'll remember that
@@lunarmathemagics7881 you'll need to catch a female Snorunt and use a Dawn Stone. Not a guaranteed encounter by any means, I think it is like 10% in route 216 and 20% in 217 and acuity lakefront, only at night, so that's an issue. But if you find it, it is worthy
Wild that Floatzel is low B tier with its speeeeeeed and decent attack. Evolves early, bodies the Platinum Fantina fight.
So happy to see Froslass on A!!
The funniest part is regigigas can’t even stall protect. He can’t learn it.
"Dry skin is a huge gimmick"
Bruh it gives it immunity to water
Starting my first Nuzlocke with Pokemon Pearl (my first time playing pearl as well). Glad I found this video cause I know nothing about gen 4 besides the starters.
is there a video of you showing us how and where you get your 3DS emulators from? everything ive tried seems super sketch
Citra
Is this for competitive, nuzlockes, or just normal playthroughs? How are some evolutions worse than their previous forms? Is this their ranking in a specific gen or overall
Some evos are worse than their regular forms because of eviolite and this is for nuzlockes specifically
Glad to know my choosing of Rotom over Luxray wasn't in vain.
How dare he insult Pachirisu!!! That little mouse took a Draco Meteor to the face like superman takes a bullet to the chin. Pachirisu is a total chad!
Is there somewhere to like download this image? I wanna use it as a cheat sheet
i used pachirisu throughout my pearl playthrough and i gotta say, it helped me lol
World champ difference
where can i find the vod for this stream?
I would argue that Lopunny has a bit more use than you let on. It may not have incredible stats, but it's a great baton passer. For a nuzlocke I did, I used one in combination with my Raichu. Defense curl a bunch, then switch into Nasty Plot thunderbolt Raichu. It's perfect. Made Raichu hold the wide lens, allowing Sweet Kiss to become useful and iron tail nice for type coverage. One of my favorite combinations I've ever had in a playthrough before. I did lose Lopunny accidentally in the fight against Candice though. Woops.
Also, I would argue that Pachirisu came in handy for a lot as well. Being able to learn sweet kiss, captivate, and charm made it perfect for stalling or softening for stronger members to come out. Some pokemon are more useful beyond their strength.
Cherrim needs to get the Galarian Linoone treatment
Honestly, Empoleon should be S teir in my eyes because of the fact that with its steel typing it basically resisted everything and I think pre-Gen 5 steel types were also resistant to dark and ghost. Empoleon can also learn flying and ice moves as well
Nice opinion, sadly it’s just an opinion
Day one of asking pc to do a 3 team member nuzlocke
Luxray is always my go to pokemon in gen 4...it’s in my team in gen 8. But what do you expected when it’s my favourite pokemon
luxray with attack and speed EV trained literally caries the game and is obtained early wtf
I watched this video to see where my favourite Pokémon victini would go
Thanks you for ending it when my hopes got up
i don't care what the nuzlocke master says, ima defeat Cynthia with a kricketune on my team.
I feel like none of the pseudo legendarys should be banned because the whole point of them is grinding them until they are fully evolved, which usually happens right before the elite 4. So if you can keep that Pokémon alive until then, you deserve to have it. Same goes for gyarados or other Pokémon like that.
Well, unless you use Rare Candies like PC does, where you'll likely just keep it in the box until the level cap allows you to level it up to that point and actually use it.
Their stats and some of their abilities make them too easy to use.
@@lugi25fr
I once tanked the elite 4 with Bastidon flash cannon iron defense stealth rock and gyro ball
Then had a skunktank to toxic
There should be 2 O's in Bastiodon!
@@damion19967 SKUNTANK IS NOT SPELLED WITH 3 K'S!
Gallade is actually much better imo, close to S Tier.
Gets great moves in CC, Drain Punch, Psycho Cutand Leaf Blade, can learn Punches and other cute moves, does an INSANE amount of damage, has good typing and good SpDef.
Carried my last Platinum run on it's back (since you can get him before Gym 4 in Plat OwO)
@O K There are so many worst starters out there tho.
As long as you are aware of strong physical hits and have type coverage you should be fine.
Gallage is especially good in Platinum, where you can get it before the 4th Gym and it helps against gyms 4 to 7 a lot.
In other games you get it a bit later, so it's not as good, but in Plat he's S tier IMO.
@O K I speak based on Platinum.
You can get Gallade before gym 4.
It has type advantage over most of gym 4 and handles the neutral matchups just fine.
It greatly helps in gym 5 due to Leaf Blade being a lv 1 move.
It sweeps gym 6.
It sweeps most of gym 7, with Froslass being the only inconvenience.
It carries midgame alone thanks to stats only matched by a few pokemon at lv 20.
It's one of the best fighting type available and one of the best psychic type available if you dont use Trade Evolutions (even tho it contends the spot with Infernape and Lucario later, but having 2 of them is just fine in a team).
Has high physical attack paired with good stabs from early into the game.
Has solid SpDef paired with a draining move, optimal for no item runs.
Learns:
Psycho Cut for early STAB
Zen Headbutt early from tutor
Drain Punch for STAB and sustain
Night Slash
Leaf Blade
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Poison Jab
Thunder / Ice / Fire Punch (most of the moves listed thus far extremely early)
lategame Close Combat
some decent support move (Screens, TWave, Swagger, Trick Room, Swords Dance, Substitute)
Of the S Tiers available early and midgame in Platinum:
I usually ban Gyarados, but while it has similar stats and a strong ability in Intimidate, Gallade has a much wider movepool
I usually ban Blissey, but it's a completely different pokemon and there's no comparison to be had.
I play without trade Evos so Alakazam is banned, but even then Gallade has comparable attack and more bulk agaisnt Alakazam's higher speed (even tho i'll agree, Zam is better)
Snorlax is ridiculously unlikely in Platinum
Lucario is a contender for sure, but while he's more versatile Gallade has much more atk and Gallade can be found much earlier
Magnezone is completely different but even then, he's a later encounter and he has a far more limited movepool (but better stats overall)
Crobat is amazing, amost ban worthy.
Togekiss needs a lot of work to be good, but it's a bit better than Gallade as far as utility and coverage go (Gallade is still superior in the damage department).
Gliscor is actually not amazing in Gen 4, he doesn't learn any decent move without important TMs or Tutors and is overall much bulkier but deals much less damage; he doesn't even learn fly .-.
Mamoswine is available much later and has slightly better stats and a narrow (but strong) movepool.
Uxie is available super later and he's a bulky pokemon, not much to compare.
I play without Trade evos, so no Scizor (nor Machamps, just to mention him here, but Gallade has less physical bulk and more movepool than Machamp)
I dont really wanna go into all the A tiers, but as you can see i have some arguments.
And i could talk about how it's decent against half of Cyrus' pokemons or half of Cynthia's, but that's not where he shines the most. It's not amazing lategame, but if you get a male Ralts you can have a 518 base stat pokemon at lv 20, smacking everyone with 125 base attack for more than half of your run, and it's decent lategame.
This argument is for Plat only, in other games you get Dawn Stone much later and it's not as good.
What do you mean Bronzong doesn't have as good of an offense than Skarmory? It has higher offensive stats and a great offensive stab typing and decent coverage.
Skarmory gets brave bird tho
@@milesandrews6711Bronzong gets Earthquake, Flash Cannon, Psychic, Gyro Ball etc etc.
Watching this because I’m excited to Nuzlocke BD coming out in a few weeks
"120 special defense, huh?
...still really bad"
Imagine rotom with protean changing to its different forms
Can you do a tier list of all the pokemon games themselves?
Lucario is my favorite Pokemon of Gen 4, no offence to Luxray and Garchomp
Eh, non taken. I'm more of a Riolu/Luxray guy, but yeah, Lucario's pretty solid too👍
I sure they don't care
Luxray,Garchomp,Infernape,Pachirisu,Leafeon,Glaceon,and Lucario ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
been waiting for this
okay i’ll admit it, you got me with the clickbait rotom in S tier
It wasnt the A tier bidoof that did it for ya?
Waluijo honestly bibarel won my heart during my platinum nuzlocke
'Best normal flying type so far'
'I think Swellow is better'
Base form Shaymin has exactly the same BST as Shaymin S with a slightly different distribution. Shaymin S is a little bit fast with slightly higher attack and special attack while Shaymin Land is bulkier and far more balanced across the board.. Even in land form the stats are still very high, and it's like that for everything. It has no weak stats. Still has Serene Grace. Still has STAB Seed Flare. Still has Air Slash for absurd flinch spamming. Still is INSANE coverage with it's movepool. If you get a turn you are either 1 shotting with OPAF Seed Flare, or you are going to literally just flinch stun the opponent to death. It also gets access to Synthesis. This mon is nuts. There is no way you can look at this shit and not concluded that it is broken as hell. Because of Serene Grace Shaymin S makes a strong case for being maybe the most powerful mon in the entire series so far. Slightly less broken than that is still broken as shit. If you are nuzlocking with a randomizer, and this shows up in your run there is no way you aren't happy to see it and there is zero way you dont use it unless you banned it.
I dont see the stream, what is the tier above S tier?
Fair. Drifblim is my hands down favorite but I agree. Nice typing not incredible though