Wiped to Cyrus 1 on my first attempt. Would've been so much easier if it weren't for the Ace Trainers leading up to Celestic Town. Those were legitimately the toughest fights I've ever had in Pokemon (oh and also I've never played Platinum before in my life, so I had no idea what to expect) My team that was supposed to fight Cyrus, but was nearly all lost to the Ace Trainers outside of Celestic Town Gardevoir Crobat Gyarados Jolteon Monferno Duskull And only Jolteon survived those battles
playing on jans rules, I won my second attempt. my team for the elite 4 was weavile, gyarados, infernape, steelix, tentacruel, and dusclops. cynthia was hard and I was left with only infernape at the end
Wait, you made it to the second gym in your first try? (It took me 3 tries to notice there are 3 possible Pokémon able to cancel cheren id they are lv 14)
Oh god dont remind me. I would love to play it again, been years, but i still remember some particular pokemon being a painn. For some reason i only remember spiritomb though
"Ultra sun and moon are probably the hardest games in the series to nuzlocke" Me, starting my first ever nuzlocke on ultra sun yesterday: "haha I'm in danger"
Literally me with my Ultra Moon. The good thing is that I’ve played them like 20 times, at least half all the way through and most up to Poni Island. So I usually know what to expect.
kalos is easy just becouse they give you mega evolution way to early in the game, and yeah, megaevolution is probably the best or atleast coolest thing pokemon has ever done but is broken as shit
"Welcome to the salty splatoon how tough are ya?" "I beat Pokemon Ultra Moon" "Yeah so," "On a nuzlocke with no items, set mode, and no over leveling" "Right this way sir"
@@raidev_ set mode you mean? That makes it so you cannot swap out when your foe lost their Pokémon, so you get no free switches. It is a factor in hardcore nuzlockes, not your standard run-of-the-mill
Master Tier: Oops, all enhanced versions! Expert Tier: Master Tier's first drafts Apprentice Tier: The other ones. There is no joke. Novice Tier: Nostalgia Bait, and Kalos is there too. Which since Sycamore gives you Kanto starters, is still nostalgia bait. Seems about right.
Oras is still a pretty good game tho and sword and shield should definitely be in novice considering I didn’t nuzelocke the game but I don’t. Think a single Pokémon on my team died ONCE
At this point every run of a Pokémon game I do is nuzlocke. Just makes it way more enjoyable. Haven’t played ORAS or RSE in years and been having a good time experiencing AS again recently. Just adds a little bit of flavor to an otherwise easy steamroll of a game.
@@yayayayayaya8140 I played through Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire a couple years ago, doing a normal playthrough for the former and a Wonderlocke for the latter. Both were really enjoyable but the Wonderlocke was so much more fun. I liked my team for the former more just because I wasn’t limited by Nuzlocke rules so I was able to get Hydreigon for the Elite Four, but the latter made me a really big fan of Swalot and Walrein, the two unexpected MVPs of the playthrough and the sole survivors.
Well you got lucky. Beldum line are the only non legendary pokemon line that has a catch rate of 3. And you can't get the Master Ball until Aether Paradise
@@matiasv876 yeah, I do get exceptionally lucky each time, but I always make sure to catch a Beldum before I leave Mt. Hokulani. Edit: just so you know I'm insane, I also use a Salazzle. Yeah.
Man, I'm really unlucky. I got all gen 7 games + Diamond, só basically I only have expert+ games to try to nuzlocke :( Update: I have started my first nuzlocke attempt on pokemon Sun. I have so far 3 important deaths, but I had to sac a few non-important pokemon to beat a few trials Update 2: that attempt failed, trying again
tbh if youre winning with 4 pokemon left thats easy, a hard champion fight like cynthia will have you leaving with 1-2 most of the time lol (saying this as someone whos favorite pokemon game is x/y but i still know its easy when not forcing extra rules like suped up randomizer settings and no using megas or doing mono type)
Finally someone that recognizes that Gen 7 was actually pretty hard, hell even on a casual playthrough I had troubles with that game, US/UM specifically is inherently harder than S/M, which itself is a challenging game to begin with. The game holds your hand through the story, but not so through the battles. Sidenote: I think Gen 7 gets a lot of undeserved hate, it was a great step-up from Gen 6, and if the hand holding was handled better, I think Gen 7 would honestly sit alongside Gen 4 and 5 as one of the best.
USUM are the best Pokemon games period. Sun and Moon may have had some issues but they were still better than Gen 6. But USUM are like a love letter to Pokemon fans. I'll be shocked if they ever top those game.
@@_maza_2443 umm Well I wouldent go as far as to say USUM isThe Best pokemon game especialy as the game before it sm has a way better story becuse of all the weird ultra worm hole plot that was added in usum which is a bit of a down grade for it
@@oldfrozenwolf6803 To each their own but I feel like the story is pretty shit in ever Pokemon game barring BW. Not really something I play the games for
When I was younger, like 7 or 8 I think, I got a gameboy colour with pokémon red. But me being Dutch, I didn't understand a single word of English. I got stuck at the point where you have to give water to the guard to progress for probably 3 years because I gave up. I had trained my charizard to lvl 67 in the tall grass above the biker route. Those were the days
I first played ruby that my big bro had completed and the party consisted of lvl 60s groudon and shit. The save loaded me in littleroot town. I had no idea what to do. Thought I had to kill every mon from all the grass so i kept 1 shoting the poor poochies and ziggys with the lvl 60 ish groudon LMAO.
Fr people always bring up "hand-holding" this and "nerfs to older gen Pokémon" that, but USUM brings a really refreshing challenge especially Nuzlocke wise and I wish people didn't make it go as underappreciated when discussing challenging Pokémon games for beginner's.
Shame literally everything else about USUM sucks. I still largely prefer SM due to it having the better story and not ruining like 20 shinies through warp ride
I literally just finished playing Fire Red and I did so well (only my Metapod died in Viridian Forest) so I decided to start White 2. Needless to say the early in game shattered my confidence
@Gblizzard TH-cam well to be fair Showdown skills and Nuzlocke skills are quite different. I wanted to comment because I just finished my first HC nuzlocke of FireRed with zero deaths up until the champion. I forgot Venusaur only had Solarbeam for damage, and I let it get a sunny day up. THEN I forgot it doesn't have Chlorophyll so I sacked my Hypno. Then the Zam crits my Snorlax so I had to sack it too
Finally someone who recognizes Red and Blue for what they truly are. People complain about X and Y being easy, yet they praise Red and Blue because "high difficulty." Red and Blue are the easiest pokemon games by far. First blind playthrough, only 6 times a pokemon in my party fainted and I was underleveled with no items, and the underleveled I mean is 10 full levels below Blue's Venusaur. Also, at least in X and Y, the AI isn't stupid as fuck. Red and Blue may have been good for their time, but they don't hold up, especially in the difficulty category.
@Tony Ochoa One of the things that bothers me the most is the fact that people will go on and on about whichever pokemon game being bad. I mean, really though, none of them are bad (Gen 8 is a little iffy), but they're all good for different reasons, whether it be the nostalgia talking, or their personal experience with the game. There is no perfect pokemon game. Red and blue were a great start for the series but they don't hold up so well now and then something like X and Y, the hype for those games were crazy and they really felt like the next big step into pokemon games and what they could become. Ngl, it doesn't feel great when people are just hating on your fav gen. I like white best as it was what I started with and I've met so many people who just want to tell me why it's the worst. No pokemon game is "the worst" or bad. I like all the gens, not the same but I still like them, for different reasons. Edit: spelling
I couldn't agree more. Pokemon red and blue are among the easiest games in the series, only being harder than gold and silver. People don't give the newer generations nearly enough credit for what they are worth. I had a harder time playing through the remakes than I did playing through the originals.
@@emreozer9469 I'm going to guess you're a German because you spelled platinum as platin. Or you're just being lazy which is way likelier... I shouldn't have made this comment. Frick it, writing it anyway
Please keep up the YT content. It's legit. The low effort intros are hilarious and gave a like purely for the "leave a like?". Love not watching 2mins of begging for likes n subs. Just content. Good shit my dude. 👏
i love low effort intros tbh. like some people put so much effort into an intro and the pc is just like "uhhhhh? hi? im pc i guess? subscribe or smth idk man"
This video inspired me to nuzlocke Ultra Moon, and it's been a great experience! I originally quit right before Po Town because I got bored, but returning to Ultra Moon after a couple years feels refreshing. I just made it past the Ultra Necrozma fight, so things are going well!
Yeah I love the gen7 nuzlocke. Omega ruby/alpha sapphire are also pretty solid for a newer gen3 nuzlocke. Ultra sun/moon is my favorite new pokemon locke. I have both on my ds and do different challenge runs all the time
I just did a nuzlocke of that game, it was rough but I managed to cheese the ultra necrozma fight with my Zorark(Snoop). He sadly died to the fairy totem trial
I have tried re-picking the game where I left it like 3 times or 4 times over the years I've had the game. I can't just bring myself to play the game, it's so slow and boring, I can't imagine how it is to enjoy it.
Just realized trying a black 2 nuzlocke wasn’t a great one to start at. Lost 1 run at victory road, trying 2nd run:lost my second run to stupid clays exadrill. 3rd run lost to a exadrill near giant chasm, I’ve pretty much for now given up on nuzlokes.
You got this bro, just do your research on trainers or Pokémon on the routes that wipe you. Once you start doing that it makes strategy way easier to overcome those harder fights. I’d also recommend EV training as much as you can as it gives you a HUGE edge over E4 and champion. good luck!
@@spider-mancantsee5875 fair enough bro. If you’re curious my final team for the e4 ended up being Metagross, Altaria, Bisharp, Starmie, Mienshao, and Conkeldurr. Since I was playing switch and healing items on it ended up being a lot easier for me. I’m playing a hardcore ORAS one rn but yeah good luck to whatever game u end up running.
11:16 The level jump in Frost Cavern is insane! I remember losing half my team to a random Mienshao that was lvl 44. The trainers on the route before were high 30's maybe 40 but that jump was crazy
@@lrba5524 I highly recommend blaze black 2 and volt white 2 (drayano rom hack) if you're a master at nuzlockes and you've managed to beat the other drayano hacks. It's like black2/white2 on steroids but I will say if you choose to use legendaries in the run it gets ridiculously easy at certain stages of the game because around the 4th gym you get a lvl 65 meloetta encounter in the musical and you can get the swords of justice and the genies in the main story
@@thebeway8339 I lost my starter to random Gible encounter. I have a rule that if I encounter a wild pokemon, I have to fight it, so seeing Gible kill Prinplup made me use up my repels the rest of the time I was in that cave
I'm kinda proud to see BW2 up there, I tried my first nuzlocke on BW2 and while I lost close to 15 times I was super happy to beat a White 2 Nuzlocke for the first time. Then Cynthia ate me for breakfast, but hey that's just how it is sometimes
@@JoshusBarber I did it! I cheesed a little bit by way overtraining but I got through the league with nothing but my Gastrodon surviving. I knew Cynthia was tough but damn... I was not prepared.
There is one thing you forgot about HGSS- the level jumps. The levels jump so much that right before the Elite 4 the only pokemon available for you to grind are level 32 or so until you beat the Elite 4
@@bradleyedson8596 But it does make the game hard if you have to grind levels for 4 hours just to be bear the levels of the elite 4. And in Kanto, an POST-GAME AREA none of the wild pokemon are leveled more than they are in Johto late game places.
@@celene9393 Not really because there is a difference between planning a strategy and preparing to sacrifice pokemon just to win a fight, and grinding which basically becomes button mashing tediousness. One of those is hard in difficulty and the other is just a tedious time waste.
@@bradleyedson8596 But part of a nuzlocke is having pokemon that can actually stand a chance. If you loose a pokemon on victory road it's going to be very hard to train a new one back up.
@@bradleyedson8596 I play the game with the mindset that the level curve isn't to force you to grind, but to encourage you to figure out how to compensate for your disadvantage in raw power. While you *can* grind to level 50 to beat Lance, you can also beat him at level 40 by using status moves, exploiting the AI etc. and for me it made killing him with my underlevelled Ampharos feel that much better. I think it does this because of how limited the selection of Pokémon was, so unlike in future games where enemies could form balanced teams, difficulty kind of does have to come from using powerful high level mons.
There's 1 double battle you get in the overworld fog in platinum I always fear. double Ace trainers with a Garydos and Raichu those two have made me game over as much as Cynthia has.
Dude, currently almost done with a (regular) playthrough of Platinum. Screw that fight so hard, I even used Defog to fix the accuracy BS and I still almost wiped. It wouldn't have been terrible because I'm not doing a Nuzlocke, but that doesn't make the actual gameplay of that fight much easier. Platinum _loves_ its super difficult 2v1 Ace Trainer fights. I've wiped to the one just outside of Veilstone City more than a few times.
@@kimyona9746 My team was Charizard, Raichu, Vileplume, Lapras, Machamp, and Alakazam. Lapras and Alakazam destroy this game, and they're both guaranteed encounters in a nuzlocke. You can get Abra from the game corner, and Lapras from Silph Co. I didn't lose any pokémon until the champion battle, and the only reason I lost any there was because I did it on purpose. Gary was down to his last pokémon and I still had my whole team.
Glad to see my concerns for Sun & Moon were justified. Going from SwSh to Sun, I felt the difficulty go way up. I got wiped out by Hapu at the entrance to Poni Canyon 'cause my team was not properly set up and my 1 primary counter to her Ground-type team died first... I suppose we all have to experience a Nuzlocke loss at some point but this was painful to watch, knowing I couldn't quit, knowing I couldn't run, realizing far too late what I had done.
I´m so fucking glad it was the first nuzlocke I´ve tried :) My Decidueye literally saved me against so many bosses including ultra necrozma and unfortunately he died to a crit in the league. I was really sad about that, but I was very glad that I could beat the game and I know that I couldn´t have done it without my starter
Theres even a hack rom of USUM at the drayano style. Is called photonic sun and prismatic moon. I might give it a try, kind ready for an unfair challenges right here
Have to agree with you about platinum being harder, in general, compared to diamond and pearl. BUT the champion battle in diamond/pearl is significantly harder. You breeze through the elite four, but then you hit Cynthia and her lvl 66 garchomp. Not only that, but her team’s levels are higher than platinum’s and spiritomb comes with embargo, preventing you from using x-items. The last thing I want to mention is if you don’t level up 1-2 Pokemon along with not getting the legendary, it takes FOREVER to grind and reach to cynthia’s level and you really need to lol. Just a rant, but I found the champion battle to be one of the hardest parts within diamond/pearl nuzlocke and/or the entire series.
I mean the champion team in platinum is for sure harder due to her not having gastrodon and instead having a togekiss, the level thing can easily be solved with appropriate grinding and it's honestly just a dumb thing in general and just a result of the garbage level curve of the earlier pokemon games
"x&y are the easiest to nuzlocke" and then there is my stubborn ass losing to Double furfrou and dragon rage axew trainers, but refusing to skip them x)
Started playing Pokémon in middle school with Red. Picked up Sun after playing White, White 2, Y, and Alpha Sapphire this past summer. Played Sun blind with all new Pokémon. In my opinion, the game has a near perfect level curve, great story, and the best Pokémon League experience I’ve ever had. When the fourth elite four member showed up, I wasn’t ready and barely made it through that battle. Healed up. Went to the fifth fight and it came down to our last two Pokémon slugging it out, winning by exactly one move.
I'd be super curious to see you try out Wedlockes, they change the dynamic of the way you play a ton, easily my favorite way to nuzlocke. That and it makes switch mode feel balanced because you can't switch between pairs unless the pair you open the battle with dies.
I just want you to know that you have quickly become one of my favourite you tubers, and you have single handily made me interested in nuzlockes, and because of you, I have decided to try my first ever nuzlocke on Pokémon black, and I made sure to put it on set mode as you have always highly recommended it.
They would definitely be among the hardest. Between there only being maybe 10-15 locations per game, all battles being doubles, Shadow moves being supereffective against all non-Shadow Pokemon and all the unskippable trainers. You'd be forced to get whichever Shadow Pokemon came along first most times. Not to mention physical/special pre-split shenanigans making some of them next to useless.
They're definitely fun challenge runs. You gotta tweak the rules a bit but honestly just play it like a permadeath run. The game mechanics themselves already put a limit on your number of available pokemon (just do only one encounter in the pokespots in XD). I normally don't count deaths until after purification since the movesets can't be changed, they hurt themselves, waste turns, etc. Also, purification is when you become the OT and get to nickname them. Plus, randomizer and rom hack options are there too. Pokemon XG is a cool hack to check out.
@@CharraHibiri Yeah, people in our community that have nuzlocked them find them more difficult than most Drayano romhacks. Our rules usually allow 12 encounters for Colosseum and 16 for XD, with a dice roll telling you which encounter you get in an area (so you don't get the SAME encounters in each area every time you run the game).
the "you think you are" subscribed line got me lol since you keep popping up in everyone's recommended so happy the youtube algorithm has decided to push your content well deserved keep up the good content
Saving this! Almost done with my first nuzlocke (Pokemon X because I already owned it and my emulator failed me), having a blast with it, but definitely ready to up the challenge. Your videos are so helpful and your depth of knowledge is insane. Thanks for what you do!
Just completed my White nuzlocke. I made it all the way to Ghetsis and had him down to three pokemon, but his Hydreigon outsped and one shot my entire team. I'm incredibly upset that I lost to literally the last trainer before the credits, my team matched his levels too, but I'm also proud of myself for making it that far in an 'expert' tier game.
Yo when i did my sw sh nuzlocke I couldn’t stop getting crit. I lost my yamper while grinding before nessa to a crit. Nessa killed my rookidee with a crit, then when I didn’t have my rookidee to evolve, i almost lost to bea when she crit killed my bronzong with her machamp. My starter (i calced this btw) got the lowest possible roll on snipe shot and a mr mime killed him with mirror coat at 1 HP RIGHT BEFORE THE CHAMPION. I did eventually sweep the chamion with a flygon after barely killing the rillaboom at plus 2 or 3. Also i left out alot of the times my pokemon would die to a random crit from a mantine or some shit like that
Leon can very easily be a run killer if you don't set up - which I'll be honest, I do not think the game assumes the player does like ever. Yes you can set up and sweep every fight with one Pokémon, but it's not that much different from any other gen, Emerald for example I've managed to sweep the Elite 4 with level 45 Gardevoir and on another run with level 45 Breloom just by setting up calm mind / bulk up Anyhow back to Leon - I have absolutely god awful track record of fighting him. The first time I was 10 levels below his team and got wiped on like on like Haxorus. Second attempt I came back at a bit higher level and lost to charizard. Fast forward 12 months - Crown Tundra comes out and I decided I want a masterball to catch the other horse and regi. Grabbed 3 level 65 pokemon from the dynamax adventures (Scolipede, Galarian mr mime and metang) and started beating the game with them. By the time I've reached Leon these 3 were level 75 the 3 pokmeon I caught in galar were level 60... And I yet again lost to Leon ^^' on my first attempt
I had a Machop I caught eariler but I boxed it for a grass type because grass types make nessa easy but my grass type was taken out by a crit I tried to train up my Machop on Rolycolis and it got killed by one with an egg move crit explosion
Dide honestly i think leon is one of the easiest trainers to fight, with how easy it is to level and sweep in this game i havent lost to him except for when i used a rough draft of a mono ice team and lost it the battle tower
Any other gen five stans out there loving this list bc the game doesn't get the love it deserves even though it has the best story and a direct sequal unlike every other pokemon game
When my brother fought him he lost, so i sent him my moon team(he was play ultra sun) and the lunala from my moon save was 5 levels under and lunala beat ultra necrozema
When I play Pokémon I tend to go for a hardest challenge. And that's why not only is USUM THE hardest but also one of my personal favorites of all Gen 7.
Don't worry. ORAS may be relatively easy but they have some difficult fights. Mega Metagross is dangerous,even with a type advantage thanks to its typing and bulk
Holy shit I'm so happy you ranked white/black 2 at the top. That was my first nuzlocke and I felt bad for leaving it for later for 3 years. I thought it was one of the easiest so during the last year, and after about 20 failed runs I randomized parts of it and didn't allow myself to use items during battle, because I heard someone say it's one of the easiest ones, and I considered myself to be kinda experienced with nuzlockes at that point. I still wasn't experienced enough though. It took me another year, but I'm proud to say I finally did it
I agree with most of these rankings. I'm VERY happy you ranked SM and USUM as the more difficult ones, because everyone was saying those were easy, but I've lost the most Pokemon nuzlocking those! I would only argue that RBY be in at least Apprentice tier, because if you are ranking these as a beginner going into a nuzlocke, RBY's weird rules, glitches, and RNG with the way critical hits are calculated can really surprise beginner nuzlockers, ESPECIALLY if they're not used to those older mechanics. (But yeah, they're really easy if you know what you're getting into; my only deathless 'locke was in Pokemon Red).
Ngl I think you definitely underrated hgss. Without ice types, Lance can be a pain in the ass. Also the gym leaders are pretty difficult. Claire’s Kingra really doesnt have any direct counters. On top of that, Morty’s Gengar can be pretty tough as well.
I wish Dragonite didn’t exist. I’ve never seen BW2 post game and only this summer did I ever see the second half of HGSS (and immediately got walled by Surge as the team I crafted specifically to destroy all of Lanxe’s hopes and drama was INCREDIBLY weak to electric. My Umbreon was the last bastion of hope and we spammed dig and barely made it) Long story short Fairy is a wonderful type and I’m so glad it got added
Wdym without ice types, lance by far the easiest champion of all time. Electric types will do just fine, but the best way to deal with him is rock types because all of his pokemon are weak to rock As for the gym leaders, you can hit most of clair's pokemon neutrally and still be completely fine. Morty is kinda a problem but at the same time can be easily dealt with due to the AI and Gengar's shit defenses
I did the same thing after beating ORAS! Platinum was a bust but right now I'm on my way to the 8th gym in white. If you can get a Roggenrola before Lenora you're set--she's helpless against rock types if you allow healing. From there you can make a beeline to Route 4 which has a ton of good options for new mons.
In my opinion, I feel like the first two gens were the hardest for me because of the money problem. But, on like a nuzlocke perspective, I would see how he got his answers
@@theofrankel4836 Oh I was definitely panicking at the furfrou fight but thankfully they didn't focus too much and I barely got out of it. I personally really love X and Y. They have some really random hard fights, they just feel nice to play and have somw of the best (looking) Pokemon IMO. A lot of the gen 6 Mons feel like the original idea of Pokemon. Also movement feels really nice in it. And without in-fight-heals, no Mega, No free Mons like Lucario and and Lapras and no Pikemon-Ami they feel just right. I think it's great that you can really "choose" your difficulty in these.
You switched around the champions for Diamond/Pearl and Platinum lol. Cynthia has higher levels in DP (Between 2-5, depending on the Mon, meaning she has no level lower than 60), and Gastrodon over Togekiss, meaning a better spread of typing coverage.
@@V2ULTRAKill Granted. I'm not trying to say that Platinum Cynthia is easy by any means, she's still hard and yes, Serene Grace Air Slash is painful. I'm just trying to say that DP is the game with the higher level Cynthia lol. That and the fact that her moves are arguably better in DP over Platinum. Milotic being 63 with Aqua Ring over 58 with Dragon Pulse, Garchomp being 66 with Brick Break over 62 with Flamethrower, stuff like that.
The levels don't make the fight more difficult. Cynthia in Platimum has better movesets and way better AI than in DP. I was able to beat her Milotic with a Golem in Diamond because she refused to attack me. In Platimum, she chooses the best move most of the time.
@@FiboSai I'd argue that besides the Togekiss having a better offensive movepool than the Gastrodon, her DP movepool is better.I can't argue about AI quality or anecdotal evidence of a good run, only that Brick Break Garchomp is far scarier than Flamethrower Garchomp.
Reflections cave is kinda insane in pokemon X and Y. It has shadowtag wobbuffets with counter and mirror coat (assuming you don't use repels). There are also a good amount of hard mandatory trainers that are really close to the level cap of the next gym. Also the gen 2 remakes has a lot of gym leaders with evasion strats that can screw you over and there are random trainers and encounter that for some reason have explosion or self-destruct. There is a team rocket admin with a full selfdestruct koffing team. and of course getting a new team member takes a lot of grinding.
I know this is a three year old comment but I'm trying my first Nuzlocke via Pokemon Y and after 5 gym badges I've lost exactly two Pokemon, one from be being too cocky to switch out my low health confused Venasaur because it outsped its opponent and one in fucking Reflection Cave to a trainer with a Miefoo that landed a crit. My Floette was my first loss and I will never recover.
I knew BW2 was getting master, still remember how I was basically weeping in my first normal playtrough because of how much I was struggling against tall grass encounters when I thought it was better at Pokemon in the years that passed from playing BW with my getting into watching competitive battles etc.. (to be fair, I was used to overleveling and that time instead I just rushed). Kinda surprised for having Platinum right next to BW2, Cynthia is definitely a challenge but it's just the champion, compared to the League in BW in which EVERYONE kicks ass and double (and triple) battles tend to be more difficult, also I think Platinum has Leppa Berries which are a cheap way to restore PP? So you can spam your one shot moves more liberally. I would put it in Expert, higher than BW while DP are low expert.
Just finished my first nuzlocke on Black 2 today! Was def tough and grinding was boring but I had a pretty strong team to sweep the E4 and for the most part, Iris. So happy and starting my ORAS hardcore nuzlocke soon haha
I replayed X recently, and I can confirm there are some regular trainers that can destroy you if your team has no counters, and I wasn't even nuzlocking. I daresay the regular trainers in X and Y are more dangerous than the boss fights, probably because you may know what bosses are carrying, while no one is going to memorize regular trainers. I personally feel like Grant can be genuinely dangerous as well, due to Amaura's Refrigerate boosted Take Down hitting like a truck when not resisted. That's a move with 117 base power (90 * 1.3) BEFORE STAB in the second gym. That's no slouch.
@@fakeaccount900 well you could do the same ruleset with only catching one per route excluded (collosseum only since XD has wild areas). I actually have nuzlocked collosseum and boy was it annoying and difficult to do. If you ban healing items i don't think its possible if you don't ovetlevel. I did manage to take espeon all the way through though
@@Venemofthe888 Not to mention grinding is quite possibly even worse in those games than in GSC. Since everything is a double battle, your Pokemon get exp more slowly. Grinding is also not very safe since the best source of exp is Mt. Battle, where you have to choose between fights that are so easy you barely get anything, or fights that put you at risk of dying.
@@FiboSai oh for sure plus the lack of types makes every loss critical. Misdreavus is the only ghost type in collosseum. I think if there was a minun in the game (unused data suggests there was going to be a shadow one) there could of been a perfect place for 2 pokemon built for a double battle. I do think a lot of pokemon in the game have their own uses but the pool of pokemon is shallow
@@ElHarmonyV Also, ain't nobody gonna convince me that Togekiss is a weaker Pokemon than Gastrodon. That Togekiss has two guaranteed hit moves, and two moves that have a decently high chance to make you flinch or confuse you. If that thing had Serene Grace instead of Hustle it would be tougher than her Garchomp.
@@cartooncritic7045 Not saying Togekiss is weaker than Gastrodon, I'm just saying that Gastrodon's typing of Water/Ground is better than Togekiss' Normal/Flying.
@@ElHarmonyV I don’t think type balance plays as big of a part in team comp as much as the actual combat prowess of the Pokemon themselves do. Gastrodon is good, but it facerolls to a Grass Knot from any decently powerful special attacker. Togekiss is bulky enough to not get OHKO’d by very many things, has good offense in stats and moves, and if you can’t kill it in one hit it’ll likely still heal on the next turn and will still have at least one or more chances to fuck up your strategy.
"ORAS is one of the easiest" Quietly looks at my team and flashbacks to how nearly half my team was wiped out before Norman and even then how my Absol died to a slash and me not having any Pokémon that deal super effective stab damage to Tate and Liza.
The one thing I’m curious about is I’m under the impression HGSS is being judged on the Johto section of the game, up to the first elite 4 match. I’m curious if his rating would change if we were judging the HGSS nuzlocke up to Red, which has the harder fights, especially if you include stuff like the gym/elite 4 rematches as part of your nuzlocke. That said for the johto portion of the game, completely agree, it’s not bad at all besides the grindiness of Johto in general.
While I'm late, the Kanto portion of the game is usually a massive cake walk. This is mostly because your team is by now stacked with EVs and your opponent isn't, so you might see crazy things happening like Ferligatr outspeeding Starmie. I feel like the only hard fight is Blue who turns your speed against you
@@albabimam1114 I remember most Kanto gym leaders not being too bad, but when I say Kanto , I’m including not only Blue, but the Elite 4 rematch, Red, and if you choose to include them, the johto/kanto gym rematches, and the Claire/Lance Double Battle with your rival. Even disregarding those last two, pretty much all the hardest fights in those games are in that postgame, especially that Elite 4 rematch and Blue. Elite 4 can be messed up on hardcore rules as if your level cap is set at Karen’s ace, Lance’s ace will outlevel you by 11 levels upon entering the E4, and his rematch team is pretty stronk.
My first and so far only Nuzlocke was Black. And tbh... I had to use Reshiram at the end or I would've lost. Survived with Reshiram, Samurott and a Garbodor that was the MVP with Stockpile and Toxic
Well, I am doing X for my first Nuzlocke right now, things got significantly easier for me after the 2nd gym. Leading up to it was rough though. Lost Snorlax to a random trainer with an Axew, and then lost my Wartortle to a random trainer, then lost Kirlia in the gym leader fight. Those were hard losses for me.
@@BigAl2-u7e They're all real. There's only core and spin-off, no fake games (considering you didn't take fan games and hack, because you know- those are unofficial).
Thank you. I'm trying to start up on twitch myself with nuzlockes and I just dove in head first with the full randomizer settings which I found to be a bit ambitious then toned it downed and kept getting boned via rng. EX wabbofet with shadow tag first encounter can't run counters me twice and knocks me out. So I'm gonna do vanilla nuzlocke lol from easiest to hardest.
There's a guy on Kalos Route 6 that has a Volbeat with Confuse Ray, Double Team, and Moonlight that nearly wiped my team. There's also that multi battle in Glittering Cave where your teammate spams screans while the Team Flare grunts you're fighting have Brick Break.
Wouldn't pokemon lets go pikachu and Eevee be harder because you can only catch one pokemon per route, so the only way to really grind is trainer battles and those are limited.
People complain that everything past gen 4 was super easy, but that’s definitely not the case, especially just in comparison to some of the earlier games. Especially for a nuzlocke.
Funny thing is most people that complain about that don't even explain why. Probably because they've never played it. But the true reason might be it's because they've pretty much mastered all the pokemon game mechanics at that point, (estimating how much to grind, type advantages, items, movesets with the added unlimited use for TMs, and probably even EV training).
While I never played rb, it seems so easy. Especially the fact you can cheese out battle due to pokemon with terrible moveset and horrible AI. Like blue's exeggutor who doesn't even have a STAB move and using hypnosis instead of sleep powder. I didn't finish my FRLG run because I was bored. And delete it since it was a rom on my phone
Good to know I started with one of the hardest games(Black). And my next one will be the second hardest(White 2). And then gonna go on to the sun and moon games because those are the only ones I own. Clay has already swept my team☠️
Yeh, I'm currently running Y no grinding, no exp share no gifts and it's made me sweat. There's no "playing around crits" to be had. I can respect setting yourself to boss max levels though. More people should try no grind tho, it makes EXP allocation matter.
Did a no-exp share X nuzlocke a few years back because i was bored. The game became insanely hard, but also insanely fun due to that and i had to remake my team twice from how many losses i accrued.
Welp, I've never done a nuzlocke but I decided to try one with your Hardcore Ruleset. The roll of the dice chose Black version for me. I'm almost at Lenora and I'm terrified ngl lol.
Friend of mine decided to blind nuzlocke Moon. She's at the Elite Four now, still on her first attempt. I watched most of her run, and she did grind a _lot_, but I think she definitely has nuzlocker potential. I wonder how she'll do with Platinum, as she's never played a Gen 4 game either.
@@oldfrozenwolf6803 Her final team was in the late 60s to early 70s, so she didn't overlevel too much. She actually lost a lot of good Pokemon and had to spend time grinding pre-E4 to get them up to speed.
bro with ultra sun and moon, I died soooo many times to the totem araniquid and then ultra necrozma, like holy crap Nintendo saw people call it a kids game and easy and then said "oh you want a challenge? well here have a taste of what we feed our freaking children here in japan, NOW SUFFER!!!!"
Just finished a hardcore nuzlocke of Ruby. I picked Treecko and had 2 runs die because of Wattson's Magneton. No items and no consistent check really made him a nightmare.
TOday is the day! welp, i was surprised u put S&M and US&UM so high on the ranking, i played them with nuzlocke rules no overleveling as my first two nuzlockes games and gone through them without any major problems...
My first nuzlocke was in x and it ended on the route where you can catch honedge and I accidentally ran into the old couple with the furfrows They slaughtered my team
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"Platinum is expert"
Me, completely new to nuzlockes, attempting a platinum nuzlocke
"Thisll be a breeze"
It was not a breeze
Wiped to Cyrus 1 on my first attempt. Would've been so much easier if it weren't for the Ace Trainers leading up to Celestic Town. Those were legitimately the toughest fights I've ever had in Pokemon (oh and also I've never played Platinum before in my life, so I had no idea what to expect)
My team that was supposed to fight Cyrus, but was nearly all lost to the Ace Trainers outside of Celestic Town
Gardevoir
Crobat
Gyarados
Jolteon
Monferno
Duskull
And only Jolteon survived those battles
“Man, this will be easy.”
-me before the first gym. And the purugly. And that damn turtwig in the second gym...
@@deltawarrior2323 I feel you with Roark. Lost my precious Budew. The other two were kinda pushovers because of Monferno and Zubat
@@NinjaPickle I reset on Cyrus 2. Drill peck honchkrow can screw you over
playing on jans rules, I won my second attempt. my team for the elite 4 was weavile, gyarados, infernape, steelix, tentacruel, and dusclops. cynthia was hard and I was left with only infernape at the end
“Black and White are in the expert tier”
Me: _looks at my very first nuzlocke of Black that ended at the second gym_
“Oh”
Wait, you made it to the second gym in your first try? (It took me 3 tries to notice there are 3 possible Pokémon able to cancel cheren id they are lv 14)
lenora's fricking tough man
took me 57, 57 DANG TRIES TO BEAT POKEMON BLACK 2 AS A NUZLOCK
@@trailmix1934 i hope you played on hard mode 😂
@@StalkerinfromDavid indeed I did
My boy is leaving out the hardest nuzlocke game series of all: Pokémon Ranger
I feel like that would ne impossible
Oh god dont remind me. I would love to play it again, been years, but i still remember some particular pokemon being a painn. For some reason i only remember spiritomb though
What about mystery dungeon? Lol
@@sheiro1114 I beat Blue Rescue Team without ever using a Reviver Seed.
@@V2ULTRAKill You mean a no death run or a no damage run? Because I did a speedrun of guardian signs with no deaths and it isnt that hard
"Ultra sun and moon are probably the hardest games in the series to nuzlocke"
Me, starting my first ever nuzlocke on ultra sun yesterday: "haha I'm in danger"
Literally me with my Ultra Moon. The good thing is that I’ve played them like 20 times, at least half all the way through and most up to Poni Island. So I usually know what to expect.
yeah I've never gotten past the ghost trial in seven tries
kalos is easy just becouse they give you mega evolution way to early in the game, and yeah, megaevolution is probably the best or atleast coolest thing pokemon has ever done but is broken as shit
@skhooter necromza I one shoted
@skhooter and this is why I nicknamed that Z-move: Light That Burns the Nuzlocke
"Welcome to the salty splatoon how tough are ya?"
"I beat Pokemon Ultra Moon"
"Yeah so,"
"On a nuzlocke with no items, set mode, and no over leveling"
"Right this way sir"
What a madlad
who the hell plays in switch mode?
@@raidev_ set mode you mean? That makes it so you cannot swap out when your foe lost their Pokémon, so you get no free switches. It is a factor in hardcore nuzlockes, not your standard run-of-the-mill
@@Angie_Ashf3rn yes, i know, that's what i mean.
Playing in switch mode feels like cheating
@@raidev_ OHHHH now I get it, aight lolol. I always play in switch mode since I never knew I could change it 😂
Master Tier: Oops, all enhanced versions!
Expert Tier: Master Tier's first drafts
Apprentice Tier: The other ones. There is no joke.
Novice Tier: Nostalgia Bait, and Kalos is there too. Which since Sycamore gives you Kanto starters, is still nostalgia bait.
Seems about right.
I would look at BW2 more like its own game to BW, compaired with USUM and SM, and not like an enhanched version.
Oras is still a pretty good game tho and sword and shield should definitely be in novice considering I didn’t nuzelocke the game but I don’t. Think a single Pokémon on my team died ONCE
At this point every run of a Pokémon game I do is nuzlocke. Just makes it way more enjoyable. Haven’t played ORAS or RSE in years and been having a good time experiencing AS again recently. Just adds a little bit of flavor to an otherwise easy steamroll of a game.
@@yayayayayaya8140 I played through Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire a couple years ago, doing a normal playthrough for the former and a Wonderlocke for the latter. Both were really enjoyable but the Wonderlocke was so much more fun. I liked my team for the former more just because I wasn’t limited by Nuzlocke rules so I was able to get Hydreigon for the Elite Four, but the latter made me a really big fan of Swalot and Walrein, the two unexpected MVPs of the playthrough and the sole survivors.
Kalos would be so much better if more trainers had mega evolutions and elite 4 with more pokemon
Other players: "Oh no Totem Ribombee is so hard"
Me vibing with my Metagross: "Ha ha Meteor Mash go brr"
Same, always gotta get the Beldum, bro
Well you got lucky. Beldum line are the only non legendary pokemon line that has a catch rate of 3. And you can't get the Master Ball until Aether Paradise
@@matiasv876 yeah, I do get exceptionally lucky each time, but I always make sure to catch a Beldum before I leave Mt. Hokulani.
Edit: just so you know I'm insane, I also use a Salazzle. Yeah.
Magnezone also makes the game its bitch if you get a magnemite. only really struggles with Totem Marowak
@@JJSquirtle oh, maybe I'll use Magnezone next run. Thanks.
This is perfect, I was just about to start my first nuzlocke.
hope it goes well:)
Same lol
Good luck!!!
Thanks!
Man, I'm really unlucky.
I got all gen 7 games + Diamond, só basically I only have expert+ games to try to nuzlocke :(
Update: I have started my first nuzlocke attempt on pokemon Sun. I have so far 3 important deaths, but I had to sac a few non-important pokemon to beat a few trials
Update 2: that attempt failed, trying again
"X and Y in Novice tier"
Me: sweats nervously as it was my first nuzlocke that I completed with only 4 Pokémon left after beating the Champion.
a old joke i have is that XY are easy until the AI gets lucky then you are down bad
tbh if youre winning with 4 pokemon left thats easy, a hard champion fight like cynthia will have you leaving with 1-2 most of the time lol (saying this as someone whos favorite pokemon game is x/y but i still know its easy when not forcing extra rules like suped up randomizer settings and no using megas or doing mono type)
It's easy except for a few battles. That Hawlucha in the Mirror Cave and the Water E4 were my run killers
I have failed fire Red nuzlockes before lol. There's no shame in being new to Nuzlockes, just keep em up!
Finally someone that recognizes that Gen 7 was actually pretty hard, hell even on a casual playthrough I had troubles with that game, US/UM specifically is inherently harder than S/M, which itself is a challenging game to begin with. The game holds your hand through the story, but not so through the battles.
Sidenote: I think Gen 7 gets a lot of undeserved hate, it was a great step-up from Gen 6, and if the hand holding was handled better, I think Gen 7 would honestly sit alongside Gen 4 and 5 as one of the best.
It took me prob a week to get my team overleved enough for ultra necrozma
Agreed
USUM are the best Pokemon games period. Sun and Moon may have had some issues but they were still better than Gen 6. But USUM are like a love letter to Pokemon fans. I'll be shocked if they ever top those game.
@@_maza_2443 umm Well I wouldent go as far as to say USUM isThe Best pokemon game especialy as the game before it sm has a way better story becuse of all the weird ultra worm hole plot that was added in usum which is a bit of a down grade for it
@@oldfrozenwolf6803 To each their own but I feel like the story is pretty shit in ever Pokemon game barring BW. Not really something I play the games for
"Also you're probably not subscribed to my channel. You think you are, but scroll down and check." Guess what, I wasn't and thought I was.
TH-cam keeps unsubscribing people from channels.
i tought i wasnt and i was xD
Dude he got me too
Same
When I was younger, like 7 or 8 I think, I got a gameboy colour with pokémon red. But me being Dutch, I didn't understand a single word of English. I got stuck at the point where you have to give water to the guard to progress for probably 3 years because I gave up. I had trained my charizard to lvl 67 in the tall grass above the biker route. Those were the days
ik heb precies hetzelfde gehad man haha
@@olaf4635 nice
I feel that so much ma boy. As an Italian, i got my pokemon blue in Spanish (for some fucking reason). I got stuck for so many years on that spot lmao
god same but in emerald i didnt read any of the dialogue so i didnt know you jad to give stern those parts from devon co so i got stuck at slateport
I first played ruby that my big bro had completed and the party consisted of lvl 60s groudon and shit. The save loaded me in littleroot town. I had no idea what to do. Thought I had to kill every mon from all the grass so i kept 1 shoting the poor poochies and ziggys with the lvl 60 ish groudon LMAO.
Ultra SM doesn't get enough credit for actually being a difficult modern Pokemon game
Everything seems to do over half hp even if its not very effective
except its not
Definitely not easy but not overly difficult
Fr people always bring up "hand-holding" this and "nerfs to older gen Pokémon" that, but USUM brings a really refreshing challenge especially Nuzlocke wise and I wish people didn't make it go as underappreciated when discussing challenging Pokémon games for beginner's.
Shame literally everything else about USUM sucks. I still largely prefer SM due to it having the better story and not ruining like 20 shinies through warp ride
"That Durant/Lucario trainer" yeah dude fucked me up, didn't see it coming and survived with one watchhog by confusing the swords dance lucario
You didn't have any fire or fighting pokémon?
@@Cosmicdaydreamer I think I had darmanitan but he got merc'd
I realized his Lucario only had ground moves so having a flying type just made it easy.
I literally just finished playing Fire Red and I did so well (only my Metapod died in Viridian Forest) so I decided to start White 2. Needless to say the early in game shattered my confidence
I did Fire Red.
I decided that after a year of playing Showdown I was good enough
I tried a rom hack
I got fucked
I'm doing White now
@Gblizzard TH-cam well to be fair Showdown skills and Nuzlocke skills are quite different. I wanted to comment because I just finished my first HC nuzlocke of FireRed with zero deaths up until the champion.
I forgot Venusaur only had Solarbeam for damage, and I let it get a sunny day up. THEN I forgot it doesn't have Chlorophyll so I sacked my Hypno. Then the Zam crits my Snorlax so I had to sack it too
Finally someone who recognizes Red and Blue for what they truly are. People complain about X and Y being easy, yet they praise Red and Blue because "high difficulty." Red and Blue are the easiest pokemon games by far. First blind playthrough, only 6 times a pokemon in my party fainted and I was underleveled with no items, and the underleveled I mean is 10 full levels below Blue's Venusaur. Also, at least in X and Y, the AI isn't stupid as fuck. Red and Blue may have been good for their time, but they don't hold up, especially in the difficulty category.
@Tony Ochoa True.
@Tony Ochoa it's sad cuz gen 7 is really good, both games. But I feel like people write them off without giving them a chance or being open minded
@Tony Ochoa One of the things that bothers me the most is the fact that people will go on and on about whichever pokemon game being bad. I mean, really though, none of them are bad (Gen 8 is a little iffy), but they're all good for different reasons, whether it be the nostalgia talking, or their personal experience with the game. There is no perfect pokemon game. Red and blue were a great start for the series but they don't hold up so well now and then something like X and Y, the hype for those games were crazy and they really felt like the next big step into pokemon games and what they could become. Ngl, it doesn't feel great when people are just hating on your fav gen. I like white best as it was what I started with and I've met so many people who just want to tell me why it's the worst. No pokemon game is "the worst" or bad. I like all the gens, not the same but I still like them, for different reasons.
Edit: spelling
i find omega ruby easier
I couldn't agree more. Pokemon red and blue are among the easiest games in the series, only being harder than gold and silver. People don't give the newer generations nearly enough credit for what they are worth. I had a harder time playing through the remakes than I did playing through the originals.
“I’d say Black and White 2 are some of the hardest games to nuzlocke.”
Literally the first game I tried to nuzlocke ;-;
same after failing about 100 times I tried platin next...
SAME lol im doing white 2 as my first hardcore nuzlocke (and nuzlocke in general) and I was like “Master”?
Krokorok and Liligant go brrr
clays excadrill is a menace
@@shevre You gotta set up on your own to beat him.
@@emreozer9469 I'm going to guess you're a German because you spelled platinum as platin.
Or you're just being lazy which is way likelier...
I shouldn't have made this comment.
Frick it, writing it anyway
Please keep up the YT content. It's legit.
The low effort intros are hilarious and gave a like purely for the "leave a like?". Love not watching 2mins of begging for likes n subs. Just content.
Good shit my dude. 👏
i love low effort intros tbh. like some people put so much effort into an intro and the pc is just like "uhhhhh? hi? im pc i guess? subscribe or smth idk man"
Or letting who is or who isn't subscribed. The people will follow if they want to. Don't beg.
I 100% agree with this
I just assumed that the low effort intro/outro was his TH-cam gimmick at this point
I gave you your 420th like, now the balance is fully restored.
This video inspired me to nuzlocke Ultra Moon, and it's been a great experience! I originally quit right before Po Town because I got bored, but returning to Ultra Moon after a couple years feels refreshing. I just made it past the Ultra Necrozma fight, so things are going well!
Yeah I love the gen7 nuzlocke. Omega ruby/alpha sapphire are also pretty solid for a newer gen3 nuzlocke. Ultra sun/moon is my favorite new pokemon locke. I have both on my ds and do different challenge runs all the time
I just did a nuzlocke of that game, it was rough but I managed to cheese the ultra necrozma fight with my Zorark(Snoop). He sadly died to the fairy totem trial
@@rugs777 dang I'm sorry. I can usually win if I get a magnemite and a wishiwashi early. With either the fire or grass starter
I have tried re-picking the game where I left it like 3 times or 4 times over the years I've had the game. I can't just bring myself to play the game, it's so slow and boring, I can't imagine how it is to enjoy it.
Just realized trying a black 2 nuzlocke wasn’t a great one to start at. Lost 1 run at victory road, trying 2nd run:lost my second run to stupid clays exadrill. 3rd run lost to a exadrill near giant chasm, I’ve pretty much for now given up on nuzlokes.
Dont give up mane keep trying it feels so good to complete
I have restarted white 2 about 12 time, this game is making my hair fall off. Probably should've chose a easier game as my second nuzlocke.
You got this bro, just do your research on trainers or Pokémon on the routes that wipe you. Once you start doing that it makes strategy way easier to overcome those harder fights. I’d also recommend EV training as much as you can as it gives you a HUGE edge over E4 and champion. good luck!
Thanks for all the inspiration, I am deciding to try a easier nuzloke game to get used to it instead of going straight into black 2.
@@spider-mancantsee5875 fair enough bro. If you’re curious my final team for the e4 ended up being Metagross, Altaria, Bisharp, Starmie, Mienshao, and Conkeldurr. Since I was playing switch and healing items on it ended up being a lot easier for me. I’m playing a hardcore ORAS one rn but yeah good luck to whatever game u end up running.
11:16 The level jump in Frost Cavern is insane! I remember losing half my team to a random Mienshao that was lvl 44. The trainers on the route before were high 30's maybe 40 but that jump was crazy
How are you even that underleveled xause im on lvl 40 Pokemon after I’ve finished the grass gym. The games too easy 😂
I’m pretty sure that exact Mienshao killed my Charizard in my run with a Rock Slide out of nowhere, rando trainers do not mess around in X and Y
My longtime team member Roserade met her end in Frost Cavern
Can you do a tier list like this of all the rom hacks you’ve attempted, I’m trying to choose one to attempt a run
Do radical red
Insurgence is an awesome game and it has a nuzlock mode on it already.
@@lrba5524 I highly recommend blaze black 2 and volt white 2 (drayano rom hack) if you're a master at nuzlockes and you've managed to beat the other drayano hacks. It's like black2/white2 on steroids but I will say if you choose to use legendaries in the run it gets ridiculously easy at certain stages of the game because around the 4th gym you get a lvl 65 meloetta encounter in the musical and you can get the swords of justice and the genies in the main story
@@nishitagarwal8614 after watching Jan play on stream I'm not so sure it's a fun game to nuzlocke :/
Pokémon My Ass, this is an actual game.
Fun fact: when Nuzlocking platinum, I found out I can practically guarantee a gible encounter by utilizing dupes clause
Yup just catch all the other Pokémon in the early caves and easily get a gible
Catching Gible is a different story tho, dragon rage is fucking scary at that point and it always seems to break out of every single fucking ball lol
It's definitely not 'practically guaranteed'. You need a bronzor somewhere, and you also need an Onix in Iron Island (thus giving up Lucario.)
@Thiago Teixeira Ah yes, just catch Bronzor or Onix in wayward cave and give up Gible altogether. 200 IQ
@@thebeway8339 I lost my starter to random Gible encounter. I have a rule that if I encounter a wild pokemon, I have to fight it, so seeing Gible kill Prinplup made me use up my repels the rest of the time I was in that cave
I'm kinda proud to see BW2 up there, I tried my first nuzlocke on BW2 and while I lost close to 15 times I was super happy to beat a White 2 Nuzlocke for the first time. Then Cynthia ate me for breakfast, but hey that's just how it is sometimes
Literally playing a Platinum Nuzlocke as my first ever run and now I'm spooked
Kinda wondering how it went
@@diode_wow terribly... lost my starter and most of my line up before the 6th gym lol
@@TheMrCyberthief That's pretty damn far for a first run, though!
@@TheMrCyberthief it’s been a month, how did it go?
@@JoshusBarber I did it! I cheesed a little bit by way overtraining but I got through the league with nothing but my Gastrodon surviving. I knew Cynthia was tough but damn... I was not prepared.
There is one thing you forgot about HGSS- the level jumps. The levels jump so much that right before the Elite 4 the only pokemon available for you to grind are level 32 or so until you beat the Elite 4
Yeah but that doesn't make the game hard, just tedious.
@@bradleyedson8596 But it does make the game hard if you have to grind levels for 4 hours just to be bear the levels of the elite 4. And in Kanto, an POST-GAME AREA none of the wild pokemon are leveled more than they are in Johto late game places.
@@celene9393 Not really because there is a difference between planning a strategy and preparing to sacrifice pokemon just to win a fight, and grinding which basically becomes button mashing tediousness. One of those is hard in difficulty and the other is just a tedious time waste.
@@bradleyedson8596 But part of a nuzlocke is having pokemon that can actually stand a chance. If you loose a pokemon on victory road it's going to be very hard to train a new one back up.
@@bradleyedson8596 I play the game with the mindset that the level curve isn't to force you to grind, but to encourage you to figure out how to compensate for your disadvantage in raw power. While you *can* grind to level 50 to beat Lance, you can also beat him at level 40 by using status moves, exploiting the AI etc. and for me it made killing him with my underlevelled Ampharos feel that much better. I think it does this because of how limited the selection of Pokémon was, so unlike in future games where enemies could form balanced teams, difficulty kind of does have to come from using powerful high level mons.
There's 1 double battle you get in the overworld fog in platinum I always fear. double Ace trainers with a Garydos and Raichu those two have made me game over as much as Cynthia has.
Dude, currently almost done with a (regular) playthrough of Platinum. Screw that fight so hard, I even used Defog to fix the accuracy BS and I still almost wiped. It wouldn't have been terrible because I'm not doing a Nuzlocke, but that doesn't make the actual gameplay of that fight much easier. Platinum _loves_ its super difficult 2v1 Ace Trainer fights. I've wiped to the one just outside of Veilstone City more than a few times.
This makes sense. The first nuzlocke I did was in Fire Red, and even though I played on set mode without using items in battle, the run was too easy.
Yeah Kanto is the easiest region
Honestly. Just pick bulbasaur. Use your pidgey as a sack. Catch a nidoran male. Use a fricking bug type or something. Sweep the whole game XD
@@kimyona9746 My team was Charizard, Raichu, Vileplume, Lapras, Machamp, and Alakazam. Lapras and Alakazam destroy this game, and they're both guaranteed encounters in a nuzlocke. You can get Abra from the game corner, and Lapras from Silph Co. I didn't lose any pokémon until the champion battle, and the only reason I lost any there was because I did it on purpose. Gary was down to his last pokémon and I still had my whole team.
ya i just finished my first nuzlocke on blue and i didnt lose any of my main pokemon also on set with no items and a level cap.
@@Pusto24 you have 2 trade evolution pokemon? I usually avoid them because i can't trade them and find better alternative
"Black and White 2 are one of the hardest in the series"
*Me playing that game as my first nuzlocke:* oh. oh no
Glad to see my concerns for Sun & Moon were justified. Going from SwSh to Sun, I felt the difficulty go way up. I got wiped out by Hapu at the entrance to Poni Canyon 'cause my team was not properly set up and my 1 primary counter to her Ground-type team died first... I suppose we all have to experience a Nuzlocke loss at some point but this was painful to watch, knowing I couldn't quit, knowing I couldn't run, realizing far too late what I had done.
I couldn't agree more. Finally someone who recognize the difficulty of USUM
Every video I watch I love you more
I´m so fucking glad it was the first nuzlocke I´ve tried :) My Decidueye literally saved me against so many bosses including ultra necrozma and unfortunately he died to a crit in the league. I was really sad about that, but I was very glad that I could beat the game and I know that I couldn´t have done it without my starter
Italiano?
Theres even a hack rom of USUM at the drayano style. Is called photonic sun and prismatic moon. I might give it a try, kind ready for an unfair challenges right here
@@fabri7969 Si fra
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Have to agree with you about platinum being harder, in general, compared to diamond and pearl. BUT the champion battle in diamond/pearl is significantly harder. You breeze through the elite four, but then you hit Cynthia and her lvl 66 garchomp. Not only that, but her team’s levels are higher than platinum’s and spiritomb comes with embargo, preventing you from using x-items. The last thing I want to mention is if you don’t level up 1-2 Pokemon along with not getting the legendary, it takes FOREVER to grind and reach to cynthia’s level and you really need to lol. Just a rant, but I found the champion battle to be one of the hardest parts within diamond/pearl nuzlocke and/or the entire series.
I mean the champion team in platinum is for sure harder due to her not having gastrodon and instead having a togekiss, the level thing can easily be solved with appropriate grinding and it's honestly just a dumb thing in general and just a result of the garbage level curve of the earlier pokemon games
The DP AI selects moves randomly, Platinum does not
"x&y are the easiest to nuzlocke" and then there is my stubborn ass losing to Double furfrou and dragon rage axew trainers, but refusing to skip them x)
dont forget projared losing his stab at it
i'll never forget that he had to discover that fairy types were immune to dragon
Started playing Pokémon in middle school with Red. Picked up Sun after playing White, White 2, Y, and Alpha Sapphire this past summer. Played Sun blind with all new Pokémon. In my opinion, the game has a near perfect level curve, great story, and the best Pokémon League experience I’ve ever had. When the fourth elite four member showed up, I wasn’t ready and barely made it through that battle. Healed up. Went to the fifth fight and it came down to our last two Pokémon slugging it out, winning by exactly one move.
I'd be super curious to see you try out Wedlockes, they change the dynamic of the way you play a ton, easily my favorite way to nuzlocke. That and it makes switch mode feel balanced because you can't switch between pairs unless the pair you open the battle with dies.
"You probably think you're subscribed but you're not"
Me thinking I'm subscribed: *scrolls down, sees I'm not subscribed* shit
I just want you to know that you have quickly become one of my favourite you tubers, and you have single handily made me interested in nuzlockes, and because of you, I have decided to try my first ever nuzlocke on Pokémon black, and I made sure to put it on set mode as you have always highly recommended it.
How did it go?
RIP Pokemon colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness
Those are just side games
They would definitely be among the hardest. Between there only being maybe 10-15 locations per game, all battles being doubles, Shadow moves being supereffective against all non-Shadow Pokemon and all the unskippable trainers. You'd be forced to get whichever Shadow Pokemon came along first most times. Not to mention physical/special pre-split shenanigans making some of them next to useless.
They're definitely fun challenge runs. You gotta tweak the rules a bit but honestly just play it like a permadeath run. The game mechanics themselves already put a limit on your number of available pokemon (just do only one encounter in the pokespots in XD). I normally don't count deaths until after purification since the movesets can't be changed, they hurt themselves, waste turns, etc. Also, purification is when you become the OT and get to nickname them. Plus, randomizer and rom hack options are there too. Pokemon XG is a cool hack to check out.
@@Belan01 Like Eevee and Pikachu on Switch
@@CharraHibiri Yeah, people in our community that have nuzlocked them find them more difficult than most Drayano romhacks. Our rules usually allow 12 encounters for Colosseum and 16 for XD, with a dice roll telling you which encounter you get in an area (so you don't get the SAME encounters in each area every time you run the game).
This outro was one hell of an outro, like the best I've seen.
Adrive would watch this video like "yeah lemme do the same thing bro, but I swear I wont rip you off"
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Haven't got anything to say, just here to boost the algorithm. Good vid, though
Thanks, i found it cause of you
the "you think you are" subscribed line got me lol since you keep popping up in everyone's recommended
so happy the youtube algorithm has decided to push your content well deserved keep up the good content
Saving this! Almost done with my first nuzlocke (Pokemon X because I already owned it and my emulator failed me), having a blast with it, but definitely ready to up the challenge. Your videos are so helpful and your depth of knowledge is insane. Thanks for what you do!
Just completed my White nuzlocke. I made it all the way to Ghetsis and had him down to three pokemon, but his Hydreigon outsped and one shot my entire team. I'm incredibly upset that I lost to literally the last trainer before the credits, my team matched his levels too, but I'm also proud of myself for making it that far in an 'expert' tier game.
Yo when i did my sw sh nuzlocke I couldn’t stop getting crit. I lost my yamper while grinding before nessa to a crit. Nessa killed my rookidee with a crit, then when I didn’t have my rookidee to evolve, i almost lost to bea when she crit killed my bronzong with her machamp. My starter (i calced this btw) got the lowest possible roll on snipe shot and a mr mime killed him with mirror coat at 1 HP RIGHT BEFORE THE CHAMPION. I did eventually sweep the chamion with a flygon after barely killing the rillaboom at plus 2 or 3.
Also i left out alot of the times my pokemon would die to a random crit from a mantine or some shit like that
Leon can very easily be a run killer if you don't set up - which I'll be honest, I do not think the game assumes the player does like ever. Yes you can set up and sweep every fight with one Pokémon, but it's not that much different from any other gen, Emerald for example I've managed to sweep the Elite 4 with level 45 Gardevoir and on another run with level 45 Breloom just by setting up calm mind / bulk up
Anyhow back to Leon - I have absolutely god awful track record of fighting him. The first time I was 10 levels below his team and got wiped on like on like Haxorus. Second attempt I came back at a bit higher level and lost to charizard. Fast forward 12 months - Crown Tundra comes out and I decided I want a masterball to catch the other horse and regi. Grabbed 3 level 65 pokemon from the dynamax adventures (Scolipede, Galarian mr mime and metang) and started beating the game with them. By the time I've reached Leon these 3 were level 75 the 3 pokmeon I caught in galar were level 60... And I yet again lost to Leon ^^' on my first attempt
I had a Machop I caught eariler but I boxed it for a grass type because grass types make nessa easy but my grass type was taken out by a crit I tried to train up my Machop on Rolycolis and it got killed by one with an egg move crit explosion
Dide honestly i think leon is one of the easiest trainers to fight, with how easy it is to level and sweep in this game i havent lost to him except for when i used a rough draft of a mono ice team and lost it the battle tower
Any other gen five stans out there loving this list bc the game doesn't get the love it deserves even though it has the best story and a direct sequal unlike every other pokemon game
It gets way to much
Bro you are living under a rock, currently gen 5 is the most loved gen right now
Dude that fire soundtrack too
And for difficulty, just look at the FUCKING VOLT SWITCH EMOLGAS in the electric gym.
@@highPatron yeah it’s one of, if not the best in the series.
I'm completely agree with that tier list, it's just perfect. Thanks for the video. :)
Gets to USUM
*ultra necrozma's theme intensifies*
When my brother fought him he lost, so i sent him my moon team(he was play ultra sun) and the lunala from my moon save was 5 levels under and lunala beat ultra necrozema
When I play Pokémon I tend to go for a hardest challenge. And that's why not only is USUM THE hardest but also one of my personal favorites of all Gen 7.
I’m now incredibly embarrassed that I lost my first run to Steven in ORAS...
Don’t be. That Mega Metagross is really tough.
At least you lost to the hardest fight in the game and not some random trainer or grunt.
@@settratheimperishable7800 Ye, Steven is actually really hard compared to the Elite 4.
Dont be, I almost have to reset the whole game because if Kimono Girls
Don't worry. ORAS may be relatively easy but they have some difficult fights. Mega Metagross is dangerous,even with a type advantage thanks to its typing and bulk
The way he reacted to the ultra games had me laughing my ass off holy shit is he right
Holy shit I'm so happy you ranked white/black 2 at the top. That was my first nuzlocke and I felt bad for leaving it for later for 3 years. I thought it was one of the easiest so during the last year, and after about 20 failed runs I randomized parts of it and didn't allow myself to use items during battle, because I heard someone say it's one of the easiest ones, and I considered myself to be kinda experienced with nuzlockes at that point. I still wasn't experienced enough though. It took me another year, but I'm proud to say I finally did it
I'm working on my first Nuzlock and decided to start with Pearl.
The harder the fight, the harder the nostalgia hits...
Then what is Whitney
@@nicollejustus5128 pain
@@nicollejustus5128 A noob killer. Whitney really isnt all that hard.
Elisa, Winnona, Tate and Liz, Brock (Yellow), Whitney were the gyms that gave me the most memories.
@@Nefaliss hi there anime dude
I agree with most of these rankings. I'm VERY happy you ranked SM and USUM as the more difficult ones, because everyone was saying those were easy, but I've lost the most Pokemon nuzlocking those! I would only argue that RBY be in at least Apprentice tier, because if you are ranking these as a beginner going into a nuzlocke, RBY's weird rules, glitches, and RNG with the way critical hits are calculated can really surprise beginner nuzlockers, ESPECIALLY if they're not used to those older mechanics. (But yeah, they're really easy if you know what you're getting into; my only deathless 'locke was in Pokemon Red).
Ngl I think you definitely underrated hgss. Without ice types, Lance can be a pain in the ass. Also the gym leaders are pretty difficult. Claire’s Kingra really doesnt have any direct counters. On top of that, Morty’s Gengar can be pretty tough as well.
Hmm egg togepi walls gengar pretty hard
@@caramelvictim193 that’s true. My recent playthroughs I’ve avoided hatching the egg, and it’s really hard without it. That shadow ball can wipe teams
I wish Dragonite didn’t exist. I’ve never seen BW2 post game and only this summer did I ever see the second half of HGSS (and immediately got walled by Surge as the team I crafted specifically to destroy all of Lanxe’s hopes and drama was INCREDIBLY weak to electric. My Umbreon was the last bastion of hope and we spammed dig and barely made it)
Long story short Fairy is a wonderful type and I’m so glad it got added
Wdym without ice types, lance by far the easiest champion of all time. Electric types will do just fine, but the best way to deal with him is rock types because all of his pokemon are weak to rock
As for the gym leaders, you can hit most of clair's pokemon neutrally and still be completely fine. Morty is kinda a problem but at the same time can be easily dealt with due to the AI and Gengar's shit defenses
Wow, no wonder I'm having such a hard time, my first Nuzlockes were White and Platinum and I couldn't get past the early game
Once you get more experience try Blaze black or volt white. It's brutal if you play with the same rules as PC
@@the_bath3235 naw if he wants pain
Reborn, Emerald Kaizo, Renegade Platinum
I did the same thing after beating ORAS! Platinum was a bust but right now I'm on my way to the 8th gym in white. If you can get a Roggenrola before Lenora you're set--she's helpless against rock types if you allow healing. From there you can make a beeline to Route 4 which has a ton of good options for new mons.
@Darksider .- that didnt discount fan games like reborn though which are harder and well built
A lot of the difficulty in nuzlocking platinum is just the sheer number of garbage encounters you can get
White 2 was my first Pokémon game ever and that Lucario Durant trainer kicked my ass
In my opinion, I feel like the first two gens were the hardest for me because of the money problem. But, on like a nuzlocke perspective, I would see how he got his answers
Can confirm that random trainer encounters can end your X and Y Nuzlocke run
Especially double battles, like the two furfrous and the plusle and minun, those are run enders
@@theofrankel4836 oh... The furfrou trainer...
@@theofrankel4836 Oh I was definitely panicking at the furfrou fight but thankfully they didn't focus too much and I barely got out of it.
I personally really love X and Y. They have some really random hard fights, they just feel nice to play and have somw of the best (looking) Pokemon IMO. A lot of the gen 6 Mons feel like the original idea of Pokemon. Also movement feels really nice in it.
And without in-fight-heals, no Mega, No free Mons like Lucario and and Lapras and no Pikemon-Ami they feel just right. I think it's great that you can really "choose" your difficulty in these.
This guy always sounds like he doesn’t want to try on the clothes his mom just bought him.
Put this on the rare insults redit hahah
You switched around the champions for Diamond/Pearl and Platinum lol. Cynthia has higher levels in DP (Between 2-5, depending on the Mon, meaning she has no level lower than 60), and Gastrodon over Togekiss, meaning a better spread of typing coverage.
That is the reason why I didn't nuzlock it, I'm afraid of Cynthia even when I'm playing normal mode
While gastrodon has better coverage especially in DPP togekiss is more dangerous
@@V2ULTRAKill Granted. I'm not trying to say that Platinum Cynthia is easy by any means, she's still hard and yes, Serene Grace Air Slash is painful. I'm just trying to say that DP is the game with the higher level Cynthia lol. That and the fact that her moves are arguably better in DP over Platinum. Milotic being 63 with Aqua Ring over 58 with Dragon Pulse, Garchomp being 66 with Brick Break over 62 with Flamethrower, stuff like that.
The levels don't make the fight more difficult. Cynthia in Platimum has better movesets and way better AI than in DP. I was able to beat her Milotic with a Golem in Diamond because she refused to attack me. In Platimum, she chooses the best move most of the time.
@@FiboSai I'd argue that besides the Togekiss having a better offensive movepool than the Gastrodon, her DP movepool is better.I can't argue about AI quality or anecdotal evidence of a good run, only that Brick Break Garchomp is far scarier than Flamethrower Garchomp.
Reflections cave is kinda insane in pokemon X and Y. It has shadowtag wobbuffets with counter and mirror coat (assuming you don't use repels). There are also a good amount of hard mandatory trainers that are really close to the level cap of the next gym.
Also the gen 2 remakes has a lot of gym leaders with evasion strats that can screw you over and there are random trainers and encounter that for some reason have explosion or self-destruct. There is a team rocket admin with a full selfdestruct koffing team. and of course getting a new team member takes a lot of grinding.
I know this is a three year old comment but I'm trying my first Nuzlocke via Pokemon Y and after 5 gym badges I've lost exactly two Pokemon, one from be being too cocky to switch out my low health confused Venasaur because it outsped its opponent and one in fucking Reflection Cave to a trainer with a Miefoo that landed a crit. My Floette was my first loss and I will never recover.
I knew BW2 was getting master, still remember how I was basically weeping in my first normal playtrough because of how much I was struggling against tall grass encounters when I thought it was better at Pokemon in the years that passed from playing BW with my getting into watching competitive battles etc.. (to be fair, I was used to overleveling and that time instead I just rushed).
Kinda surprised for having Platinum right next to BW2, Cynthia is definitely a challenge but it's just the champion, compared to the League in BW in which EVERYONE kicks ass and double (and triple) battles tend to be more difficult, also I think Platinum has Leppa Berries which are a cheap way to restore PP? So you can spam your one shot moves more liberally. I would put it in Expert, higher than BW while DP are low expert.
Just finished my first nuzlocke on Black 2 today! Was def tough and grinding was boring but I had a pretty strong team to sweep the E4 and for the most part, Iris. So happy and starting my ORAS hardcore nuzlocke soon haha
*Proceeds to start ultra-moon run for first nuzlocke
I never even watched this video but considering how ultra moon was my first pokemon game and i loved it to pieces, this is also my first nuzlocke
*ultra necrozma's theme intensifies*
Utra sun was my first nuzlocke
Cheated the hell out of it
yo he's already at 75k subs, growing fast from last month
I replayed X recently, and I can confirm there are some regular trainers that can destroy you if your team has no counters, and I wasn't even nuzlocking. I daresay the regular trainers in X and Y are more dangerous than the boss fights, probably because you may know what bosses are carrying, while no one is going to memorize regular trainers.
I personally feel like Grant can be genuinely dangerous as well, due to Amaura's Refrigerate boosted Take Down hitting like a truck when not resisted. That's a move with 117 base power (90 * 1.3) BEFORE STAB in the second gym. That's no slouch.
Your outro’s are the reason I love your TH-cam so much 😂
Hey, question! Where would you rank the "black sheep" of the Pokemon family, Colosseum and XD, on this list?
It's in the FUCKING HARD tier
How does a nuzlocke even work in those games?
@@fakeaccount900 well you could do the same ruleset with only catching one per route excluded (collosseum only since XD has wild areas).
I actually have nuzlocked collosseum and boy was it annoying and difficult to do. If you ban healing items i don't think its possible if you don't ovetlevel.
I did manage to take espeon all the way through though
@@Venemofthe888 Not to mention grinding is quite possibly even worse in those games than in GSC. Since everything is a double battle, your Pokemon get exp more slowly. Grinding is also not very safe since the best source of exp is Mt. Battle, where you have to choose between fights that are so easy you barely get anything, or fights that put you at risk of dying.
@@FiboSai oh for sure plus the lack of types makes every loss critical. Misdreavus is the only ghost type in collosseum.
I think if there was a minun in the game (unused data suggests there was going to be a shadow one) there could of been a perfect place for 2 pokemon built for a double battle.
I do think a lot of pokemon in the game have their own uses but the pool of pokemon is shallow
Bruh Daimond and Pearl had a Cynthia battle that was so hard they nerfed her team in Platinum😂
I'm pretty sure she's harder in platinum because of her AI being better or something
Not necessarily while comp wise, yes it is a bit weaker with Togekiss replacing Gastrodon but it is made up for by her pokemon being 10 levels higher.
@@ElHarmonyV Also, ain't nobody gonna convince me that Togekiss is a weaker Pokemon than Gastrodon. That Togekiss has two guaranteed hit moves, and two moves that have a decently high chance to make you flinch or confuse you. If that thing had Serene Grace instead of Hustle it would be tougher than her Garchomp.
@@cartooncritic7045 Not saying Togekiss is weaker than Gastrodon, I'm just saying that Gastrodon's typing of Water/Ground is better than Togekiss' Normal/Flying.
@@ElHarmonyV I don’t think type balance plays as big of a part in team comp as much as the actual combat prowess of the Pokemon themselves do. Gastrodon is good, but it facerolls to a Grass Knot from any decently powerful special attacker. Togekiss is bulky enough to not get OHKO’d by very many things, has good offense in stats and moves, and if you can’t kill it in one hit it’ll likely still heal on the next turn and will still have at least one or more chances to fuck up your strategy.
"ORAS is one of the easiest"
Quietly looks at my team and flashbacks to how nearly half my team was wiped out before Norman and even then how my Absol died to a slash and me not having any Pokémon that deal super effective stab damage to Tate and Liza.
thanks for this, it is really helpful in choosing what gens to use in my streams this year.
I just started my first nuzlocke. Im playing ultra moon. That might have been a mistake...
The one thing I’m curious about is I’m under the impression HGSS is being judged on the Johto section of the game, up to the first elite 4 match. I’m curious if his rating would change if we were judging the HGSS nuzlocke up to Red, which has the harder fights, especially if you include stuff like the gym/elite 4 rematches as part of your nuzlocke.
That said for the johto portion of the game, completely agree, it’s not bad at all besides the grindiness of Johto in general.
While I'm late, the Kanto portion of the game is usually a massive cake walk. This is mostly because your team is by now stacked with EVs and your opponent isn't, so you might see crazy things happening like Ferligatr outspeeding Starmie. I feel like the only hard fight is Blue who turns your speed against you
@@albabimam1114 I remember most Kanto gym leaders not being too bad, but when I say Kanto , I’m including not only Blue, but the Elite 4 rematch, Red, and if you choose to include them, the johto/kanto gym rematches, and the Claire/Lance Double Battle with your rival. Even disregarding those last two, pretty much all the hardest fights in those games are in that postgame, especially that Elite 4 rematch and Blue. Elite 4 can be messed up on hardcore rules as if your level cap is set at Karen’s ace, Lance’s ace will outlevel you by 11 levels upon entering the E4, and his rematch team is pretty stronk.
@@DoctorCVC post game rematch teams are generally pretty hard anyway, its not unique to HGSS in that regard, but you're right
My first and so far only Nuzlocke was Black. And tbh... I had to use Reshiram at the end or I would've lost. Survived with Reshiram, Samurott and a Garbodor that was the MVP with Stockpile and Toxic
Im currently doing a platinum nuzlocke and I got a modest, serene grace, blissey. This is gonna be fun
Since BDSP hadn't been released at that time, today what would their rating be? Maybe between S/M and Diamond/Pearl? Or higher?
5:29 BDSP Cynthia: I’m about to end this man’s nuzlocke career
Well, I am doing X for my first Nuzlocke right now, things got significantly easier for me after the 2nd gym. Leading up to it was rough though. Lost Snorlax to a random trainer with an Axew, and then lost my Wartortle to a random trainer, then lost Kirlia in the gym leader fight. Those were hard losses for me.
"EVERY single Pokemon game in the series."
Where's ranger? Conquest?
Colosseum & XD????
@Parker Savo then he shouldn’t have said EVERY.
@@theheadguy1212
Every REAL Pokemon game
@@BigAl2-u7e They're all real. There's only core and spin-off, no fake games (considering you didn't take fan games and hack, because you know- those are unofficial).
Thank you. I'm trying to start up on twitch myself with nuzlockes and I just dove in head first with the full randomizer settings which I found to be a bit ambitious then toned it downed and kept getting boned via rng. EX wabbofet with shadow tag first encounter can't run counters me twice and knocks me out. So I'm gonna do vanilla nuzlocke lol from easiest to hardest.
There's a guy on Kalos Route 6 that has a Volbeat with Confuse Ray, Double Team, and Moonlight that nearly wiped my team. There's also that multi battle in Glittering Cave where your teammate spams screans while the Team Flare grunts you're fighting have Brick Break.
Wouldn't pokemon lets go pikachu and Eevee be harder because you can only catch one pokemon per route, so the only way to really grind is trainer battles and those are limited.
People complain that everything past gen 4 was super easy, but that’s definitely not the case, especially just in comparison to some of the earlier games. Especially for a nuzlocke.
Funny thing is most people that complain about that don't even explain why. Probably because they've never played it.
But the true reason might be it's because they've pretty much mastered all the pokemon game mechanics at that point, (estimating how much to grind, type advantages, items, movesets with the added unlimited use for TMs, and probably even EV training).
While I never played rb, it seems so easy. Especially the fact you can cheese out battle due to pokemon with terrible moveset and horrible AI. Like blue's exeggutor who doesn't even have a STAB move and using hypnosis instead of sleep powder. I didn't finish my FRLG run because I was bored. And delete it since it was a rom on my phone
Good to know I started with one of the hardest games(Black). And my next one will be the second hardest(White 2). And then gonna go on to the sun and moon games because those are the only ones I own.
Clay has already swept my team☠️
X Y are actually pretty difficult with EXP share off
Yeh, I'm currently running Y no grinding, no exp share no gifts and it's made me sweat. There's no "playing around crits" to be had. I can respect setting yourself to boss max levels though. More people should try no grind tho, it makes EXP allocation matter.
Did a no-exp share X nuzlocke a few years back because i was bored. The game became insanely hard, but also insanely fun due to that and i had to remake my team twice from how many losses i accrued.
Even after doing that I still found it easy ngl
@@jackb450 That’s honestly just you
Nah, the game is still incredibly easy
Welp, I've never done a nuzlocke but I decided to try one with your Hardcore Ruleset. The roll of the dice chose Black version for me. I'm almost at Lenora and I'm terrified ngl lol.
“The middle game’s a little bit”
*Laughs in Togedemaru, Hau Ula’Ula fight, and Mimikyu*
Friend of mine decided to blind nuzlocke Moon. She's at the Elite Four now, still on her first attempt.
I watched most of her run, and she did grind a _lot_, but I think she definitely has nuzlocker potential. I wonder how she'll do with Platinum, as she's never played a Gen 4 game either.
Make her do another with a level cap it's easy to say they have potention when there using level 80-90 Pokémon in the final battle
@@oldfrozenwolf6803 Her final team was in the late 60s to early 70s, so she didn't overlevel too much. She actually lost a lot of good Pokemon and had to spend time grinding pre-E4 to get them up to speed.
Algorithm.
Also can't wait for Radical Red content - can't catch the stream but this channel is pretty good
He just sounds so defeated whenever he does his intros and outros for TH-cam.
I love it
bro with ultra sun and moon, I died soooo many times to the totem araniquid and then ultra necrozma, like holy crap Nintendo saw people call it a kids game and easy and then said "oh you want a challenge? well here have a taste of what we feed our freaking children here in japan, NOW SUFFER!!!!"
Just finished a hardcore nuzlocke of Ruby. I picked Treecko and had 2 runs die because of Wattson's Magneton. No items and no consistent check really made him a nightmare.
TOday is the day!
welp, i was surprised u put S&M and US&UM so high on the ranking, i played them with nuzlocke rules no overleveling as my first two nuzlockes games and gone through them without any major problems...
US en UM are not that bad for an expert nuzlocker. But for a beginner... oh boy
@@jeltevl8868 ya dont go in blind on those games because it will just feel unfair if you do.
Totem fights are rediculous
My first nuzlocke was in x and it ended on the route where you can catch honedge and I accidentally ran into the old couple with the furfrows
They slaughtered my team
"Join the subreddit for good memes" yea right lmao nice joke
10:06 Legends Arceus: 🤨
Something I’d like to see is how to properly prepare for nuzlockes, like a series explaining common game knowledge and explaining it deeper?