How To Convert Quill Stem To Threadless Stem With Adapter On Vintage Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2013
- I show how to remove an old quill stem and install a threadless stem with a threadless stem adapter. This is a circa 1990 Trek 1000. I've already upgraded/updated a bunch of stuff on this vintage bike.
Here is the threadless stem adapter I used:
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BTW, the reason I cut the quill stem in this video was for ease and cost. I could have kept the stem, but I would have had to remove the handlebar tape on one side, remove the shifter/brake lever, remove the handlebars. And then later after reinstalling the handlebars, I would have had to remount the shifter/brake lever, and retape the handlebars. New tape would have cost $15-20. OR I could have just cut the old stem. So I chose to cut the old stem.
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What kind of stem did you use?
Thanks so much. I plan on doing this to my 20 year old Rockhopper next week and give it a try before dropping money on a new bike. BTY, I had the same Trek 1000, bought back in 1990 back in the day.
What is exactly fit in that 22.2mm front adapter stem, what size of handle stem that fit that my bike is bmx
Hi RJ....can one paint his cassets is it safe
@@ofentsemodisanehybridathle4896 Probably not a good idea.
Yo RJ. Every time I look up a "how to" when I'm working on my bike, I always find your videos. I can't count the number of times your videos have helped me out. I love learning to work on my own bike, and I've been able to save a ton of money restoring my 90's road bike from the ground up, thanks to your videos.
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2:10 Before Dremeling the old stem, probably going to want to work it loose from the forks. On old bikes the quill stem probably isn't going to slide right out 2:46 this easy. Once you Dremel and break the bars out, it's going to be even more difficult to work the stem loose from the bike. Very glad this video was here. It was a helpful eye opener to the process.
Other than Saving Time, i couldn't really understand WHY he Mullored the Old Stem, i Love Working on my Bikes, and the Longer it takes the more Enjoyment i have.
This video helped out so much. I was freaking out cause I have a threaded stem and I was afraid I was going to have to buy the fork, spacers, etc. Which would cost me a fortune but now that I see how simple this is I'd only have to spend around 80$ or less :D
Great video and instructions. I just replaced the quill from my 35 year old Cannondale. I used these instructions, but I have one comment. I couldn't break the old stem with a screwdriver opening it. My handlebar diameter are butted down from 1" to .875", so I was able to slide the handlebars to the smaller area and I used a pair of slip-jaw pliers to collapse the old stem, which easily snapped. Thanks for giving me the confidence to permanently "wreck" a piece of my old bike! The entire process took about 30 minutes, which included getting out the tools, setting up the work area, and putting it all away after.
I would have preferred not to destroy the old stem. But it was that or trash the handlebar tape which was relatively new.
Enjoyed the vid, after some researching i finally found what i was seeking. I purchased an older bike and i also wanted to upgrade the stem and handle bars. Im glade i stopped to view ur vid because you basically went over the details required to complete the upgrade thx for sharing! 👍
Old style quill stems - one of the most beautiful parts of a vintage bicycle.
Yuck. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.)
I agree...
Beautiful? Yeah. Just as beautiful as they are useless
Yes, especially those Cinelli and Nitto quill stems.
The new one is uglier
Love the 1000 aluminum series of Trek bikes, they are workhorse bikes. I have a Trek 1420 and a Trek 1400. I did the same thing to my 1420 going to a threadless stem just because I wanted to keep the reach that was recommended to me at a bike fit. Good job, your videos are invaluable.
You've helped me again. Saved my 28 year old Cannondale Criterium frame that was used as a triathlon bike with old goose neck and Profile Aero III bars and updated and converted it to a gravel bike with Ultegra 6700 groupset and Mavic Kysrium wheels.
Mavic Ksyrium gang here!
The best of both worlds: The adjustability of a quill stem and the convenience of thread-less stem. Good video.
Dude, thanks for all the videos. I stumbled on your channel a few days ago, and have found it to be an amazing resource! Keep it up!
Bike "mechanic": Yeah, gonna have to unwrap the bars, remove all the brake/shifter cables & housing, remove a brake lever and then slide the bar out
RJ: dremmle mek stem go brrrrrrrrr
Love seeing your videos pop up on searches; always learn a bunch. Thanks!
I made this modification to a vintage bike. It helped me to figure out the best stem length for that bike. Now that I know the best stem length was 80mm, I bought a deda elementi quill stem, with bolts to undo a face plate! - underneath. It looks way better than the quill stem adapter and stem combo!
Hey R.J. I needed a tutorial on how to use threadless stem adapters on my Ross 14 speed, which needs 20.8. And there are 20.8 adapters. So here, you cover how to do it. Thanks. Great series.
I watch you changing the stem 10 times and I did it on my cannondale cad 3 now it looks really cool thanks.
I were agonizing between threaded and threadless forks (considering to replace threaded coil suspension forks on kids tourer). I were thinking I have to choose version when buying forks but now I see I can get threaded version and reuse existing headset and adjustable threaded stem (which has detachable faceplate). If I ever would want to go for threadless stem I would only need this adapter thing. Thank you again!
thanks so much! just bought myself an old apollo raceline, and am in desperate need of a shorter and higher stem. This answered all my questions.
thank soo much for this i have been trying other vids but they were not clear and i learnt well from you i really apriecate it thanks!!
Great videos sir and nice trek 1000. My first road was early 90s 1000, it was too big so sold it and got 2005 trek 1000c. Had it for 4 years and recently sold it. Now have 2013 1.5 trek. had a few other steel and alum road bikes which some i sold to friends (that got into cycling) and some online. I've always liked the trek designs n geometry. I hope you keep posting "how to videos" there really helpful. Ignore all the negative comments, they have nothing better to do than self-destruct. We call them haters. ✌
dude your videos are great thanks for all the help.got a restoration of my own and hope it looks as good as your does when its finished keep up the good work
Thanks for the tutorial, I think I will use such an adaptor for my next project too, because it offers you a wide range of flared gravel bike dropbars
I always want to say thanks your videos are so helpful and interesting.
I've used these adapters in the past and can be found on e-bay for like 5-10 bucks. Just change one on a Trek 3500 that has a threaded 1 inch. But I put on a Hussefelt stem and handlebar. Oh ya bad ass bike now!
Nice and clear, thanks. About to replace the awful adjustable quill stem on my dad's hybrid and replace with with a threadless one. Not a job I've needed to do before and will probably never need to do it again.
I got 3 of those old white Ritchey saddles , love 'em
just bought the exact same model bike from craigslist! very help video, thanks
Really appreciate your videos for us all, you helped me allot.
Been wondering if this is possible/how to do it, looks like it's actually pretty easy! Thanks for the video!
Its very easy. Too easy honestly.
Thanks for the run through
Updating an old Bridgestone
Thanks, it worked pretty well here. The only thing is, my old stem was one of those with the front brake cable going through it, so I had to cut the the thick tip of the cable and disconnect it from the triangle before going on with the procedure. I had some trouble to put the cable back, but that's because I'm inexperienced, but I somewhat managed it.
Thank you for this it helped me out a bunch on my craigslist Giant OCR find
And you're actually wearing shoes in this one! Good work, RJ ;-)
I'm going to be "that" guy. I was told to avoid putting grease on the quill, just spread it around in the fork so you reduce the risk of grease getting between the stem and clamping area on the adapter. I saw you put grease on the quill adapter then slide the stem onto the adapter, if not careful you can get grease underneath the stem which might cause it to slide loose. I really like your videos. I probably watch at least one a week, even if I'm not farting around on my bikes.
I was having this very issue we’re the whole headset was moving without moving the fork with slight blunt force. I ended up wiping the grease off the tip and tightening the heavens out the the quail adapter
Thanks! Just what I needed! Great video!
Exactly what i needed.Thanks! :)
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I knew you would have a video on this. Thanks so very very much!
great video.I have some butterfly bars i have on my new bike which i find are convienient for hand positions and for putting mirrors etc.The old bike is a similar stem to this where have to slide the bars out.I can do this as they are straight bars but thanks for showing the process and for the stem adaptors.Anyone criticizing should go and pay a bike mechanic instead of moaning about free advice.
Awesome mate. That's exactly what I wanted to do in my bike. Your video helped me a lot. Thank you very much o/
thank you Sir.
Very well and understandable explained
Adjustable threaded quill stem is also a good idea, it's a bit heavier and a bit more expensive but it allows to adjust position at any time with just an allen wrench.
Nice explanation and very good video skills too.
Old school style quill stems look a lot nicer if you want the bike to look vintage but so much easier to get the bar where you want 'em if you can play with different lengths, rises, flip 'em, etc.
Awesome, I have the same bike and need to replace my stem to adjust to my ride height. Awesome and thanks for the link.
Many thanks for the great video, it helped me a lot.
awesome Video! I literally have the exact bike you do. And might fully restore it now. cheers
Go for it!
RJ, the Stem terminator !
Very helpful, thanks!
Perfect video, thanks! Please take no notice of the negative comments, let them waste their time anally retaining an obsolete piece.
That awesome, I have no idea they made that adapter.
I love how just sawed the old one off. I really didn't want to go through all that unwrapping!
Some people were irritated that I cut the stem. The tape would have cost $15-20 to replace. And I didn't really care about the stem.
RJ The Bike Guy Those fools have never watched a youtube video of someone unwrapping bar tape, then rewrap it, or even done it themsleves :P
man you saved me! THANK YOU!
Very clear, cheers.
Thanks, I want to do the same thing and was a bit unsure!!!
when I install a quill adapter I insert a shim that has slits into it that goes over the adapter but I put the spacers on it first. then I insert the adapter and place another shim into the stem fitting. doing it this way helps the adapter grip the inside of the forks steerer tube a lot better so the bars wont twist that easy.
Looks great 👍👍
Great video
Thanks for this. Gonna probably buy a cheap MTB with a quill stem, then replace it and change the forks!
Thanks for the video - very helpful.
Have you thought about spray painting the chrome bearing/fork nuts black underneath, make them a little less visible?
Tempted to do this to my wife's bike - the threadless stem looks a lot neater in my opinion.
Good job.
When I saw you cut the stem, I cried. I am trying to reverse my upgraded vintage bike back to its original state, but I have difficulty to get a quill stem. :D
ebay. Lots of them.
@@RJTheBikeGuyYep, but they'll get more expensive the rarer they get;va situation not helped by you wrecking a perfectly usable component. What a waste.
You can find an endless amount of quill stems for 5-20 bucks used. New ones from 25 ->. Really don’t see the problem
@@TheMusicrunner Presumably when he does a video on changing a tyre he'll bin the whole wheel as he can't be bothered to remove the old one and the tube!
The point is it was totally wasteful and lazy.
@@Penfold-zr2be Well, the other option is to waste the bar tape which is more expensive so...
This is what im looking for !
thank you for this video!
Good stuff !
You are the best RJ !! Hey could I at the same time install a new head set for thread less steerer tube? as a 1" head set right?
Rj men thank you bra....you channwl is my favorite.....am a champion cycle repairer becouse of your channel
It look beautiful
I have had good success preventing galvanic corrosion between steel and aluminum by applying Permatex Aviation Form-a-Gasket. It goes on brown and sticky and does not dry out.
Nice work! Mine is an alloy Trek Alpha Series 1000 (circa late 90's, early millennia) that I'm converting to disc brakes. I saw your video with the adapters, but if a fork with tabs can be used, it's preferable to adapters. Understandably, newer headsets are thicker now, but was wondering if you had any ideas about marrying new forks to an older frame?
Very useful thx
Awesome & Thanks :)
LBS: it'll take us a little while to do this, we gotta untape it and take the brake levers off, install it and then redo all the tape and levers...
RJ: I got this dremmel tool...
Nice I did the same thing to my viking phantom race
great job ! next handle bar.. seat & seat post ; )
Great, thank you.
very helpful thx
thank you so much
thank you
I love your vids RJ! Another great one. I’ve got a 7/8” quill stem on my old norco. Would this adapter still work?
That is called 1". (the steer is 1") And yes.
@@RJTheBikeGuy Thank you! You're a legend.
How do you know what size your stem is? I’ve been looking on replacing mine but don’t know what size to buy.
Didnt find some small fork to fit in so this is what I did. But my adapter is measured 22.2mm , it is so old lol.
Thank you, i will do this with a mountain bike that i will get soon. Everything is amazing on it, it just has a quill stem and i dont really like them
Thank you
I didn't even know such a thing existed I just bought a old nishiki to turn into a single speed. this will work great. I would cut this down as well it's not like it to a high dollar item or a rare campy model or something
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Exactly the video I was looking for. Going to measure and order my components soon.
Great video!
Could I use this adapter plus threadless stem to secure the old threaded headset with worn-out threads on the lowest of the two threaded headset rings? Bearings are still fine, so don't want to replace the whole headset. (So what I actually want is to secure the old fork and headset almost in the way a normal threadless fork and headset are being secured.)
Hey RJ I just came across this video. Great video. I have a vintage Schwinn Le Tour that needs some Wheels front and back. Can you recommend a set of wheels for me that will be appropriate size and and good strength with being to pricey. Everywhere I look everybody only has 700 size wheels.
this is way easier than your other video
Hello, as explained in other of your videos, I am designing a tilting rickshaw,... in the past I have had to deal with bicycles where it was almost impossible to keep the alignment of the wheel with the handlebar.... the question is, as in my design this part is subjected to stronger stress... (perhaps 10 times more)... how would you suggest to proceed, so to prevent loosing the alignment of the assembly... (the part in this case will be located in the rear of the vehicle, some 40 cm away from the bottom bracket)
If anything happens with my old foldie's stem or headtube, I might have to do this.
Good to know that this specific Profile Design adapter still exists 11 years later! There are cheaper Chinese-made adapters, but would you really trust those in exchange for being slightly more expensive?
You don't need a quill adapter, just a long enough fork and the appropriate size stem (usually 1 inch for old bikes that used threaded quill stems), or you can use a shim
I recommend every 6 months loosen and pull up the stem re grease and drop back in and tighten up. Just to maintain ease of removal etc
Can I bring that stem adapter a bit up to get into a more straight up position , or does it come with different length size ?
Thank you for this video, and is very helpful as I'm upgrading some parts on my mountain bike. In the process, I'm a bit stuck with the parts needed to update my stem and handlebars. Do you know if this will fit as a 21.15 quill adapter (specifically to be used on a Hyper Havoc Mountain Bike - as I can't seem to find consistent details/information on this)? Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
You need a 21.15 specific adapter. That is not a common size.
Hi, great video! May I ask though, would a black powder coated adapter be more resistant to said galvanic corrosion compared to a polished one like what you used?
Probably depends on the coating. The plain aluminum parts are clear anodized. Often colored aluminum parts are just anodized with dye.
Can I put a 5” stem riser on top of the quill stem , like the 1 1/8” one you inserted into the fork tube ? It should be safe right ?
I did the same conversion on my Vintage cannondale. Instead of cutting I just used a flat head screw driver and pried it up. Sacrifice play.
i guess i have to saw off my old quill stem because i dont think i'd want to take off my bar tape and shifters, slide the bars out and THEN reinstall everything. Aint nobody got time for that. Anyways helpful video! thanks shyflirt1
Does the upgrade including the new adapter weigh more than the original quill stem did? Im thinking of doing this to a 2000 Trek 1000 road bike that has a quill stem and havent decided what I'm doing just yet. What size and angle is the new stem your using in the video? I'll be converting to flat bars on this bike, so I still need to figure out whats going to work best.
Thats a help, l will do that.
Hi RJ the Bike Guy, I do not have a dremel tool , do you think a mini hack saw will cut the stem?