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Eric, you give me anxaety every time you take apart a bike to build another one.
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Love the old-school Spindatt style video!
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Beautiful specialized retro bike 😮, can I have that 😂😂😂
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I think the problem is the headset stack. It's too high. Maybe cut the adapter so you don't have to use any spacer.
I don’t think you can cut the adapter. It’s not a real headset cap if I’m not mistaken and you only have so much faux steerer tube to mount your stem onto. I could be wrong.
@@Bu5t3R Eric is using a BMX stem. Most other stems will cover the 1 1/8 clamp area of the adapter. So normally you wouldn't see that much of the clamp area. You would just use 1 inch spacers down to the locknut to cover the lower part of the adapter. Or you can clamp a nice bell onto the lower part.
I have an adapter that came with a shim so you can slam the stem and trim the shim to suit.
i have a '93 hardrock with similar bars, a front load bmx stem makes it look a million times better despite the spacers on the quill adapter
What’s wrong with quill stem? Ur not going downhill mtb with a 90s mtb anymore.
U can cut the stem adaptor , original size is only for tolerances.
is this the return of tinker tuesdays?!
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“ never being content to just leave a perfectly working machine alone…” …story of my life 😂
I’m pretty sure most of the really good Stridland builds use old GTs with 1 1/8 headsets. Don’t think you’ll ever get an adapter to look quite as good. That bike does look fun as hell tho🍻
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Love this sort of tinkering content. Really miss it being more regularly on the channel, but keep on doing whatever you want and I'll keep supporting regardless. 💜
Captured my sentiments exactly
I miss it, too.
The only thing about this 'hack' (yawn) is that it doesn't offer the one real advantage that clamp on stems give. It won't stop the headset coming undone. I rode bmx (and all other bikes) pre ahead set (which was dia-compes patented name for it) and headsets would come undone continually. Otherwise there is no advantage to doing this unless you can stop the top nut unwinding.
Whenever I start to think I'm always being too fussy about the way a bike looks & am obsessing over small details I watch one of Eric's videos & feel better about my bike OCD
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I love what he does with this bike. I’ve had a rock hopper since high school and it’s way cool to see that I’m not the only one that modifies them on the daily
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I love the idea of the quill stem adapter, and I know it's superficial, but I really don't like how they look. It's that little tapper that I don't like, might be better if the tapper were just a sharp shoulder.
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You can also get them with a sharp shoulder rather than a taper. I had the same feeling about that look so use the shouldered version.
@@toby9055 hmm okay good to know, ill keep an eye out for that.
I like stock quill. It fits the look and works great.
@@djkenny1202 I love stock quills, and i love upgraded quills. I even like quills with removable face plates and/or 31.8mm handlebar bores, in case we need it for crossbars, dropbars, or just frequent bar-swaps. But the quill adaptors are ugly, heavy, and have that late-90's/early 2000's "i'm ashamed of my old bike" kind of vibe. I don't think 've used one since, like 2003. I have, more recently, pulled a few out of used bikes i purchased in the past so i could put a quill back in there....
But yeah, different strokes for different folks. If these lil kludges help other ppl continue riding and enjoying old bikes, i am all for it. I just wonder what everyone is doing with their take-offs?
I ride cheap, old bikes and quill stem adapters are on most of them. I don't use any spacers because I think they look wrong and really aren't necessary but now I'm thinking of adding them because I watched this video.
On two of my bikes I use the area to clamp a nice bell. Bells are required for the trails and bike lane network in my city. Makes the adapter less noticeable and declutters the bars a bit.
I saw the center pull will the cable going through threaded stem on the donor bike. How would you switch out those bars? Do you have to cut the cable?
As someone who still likes to use old school Oury slip on grip on some of my mtb builds, I’d like to pass along a useful tip for getting them on and off as easily as possible. Dip your index finger in rubbing alcohol and rub it around the inside of the grip. It will slide right on and when the alcohol evaporates they will be on tight. (Don’t try to ride before the alcohol evaporates, they will spin on the bars). To remove the grips, slip a zip tie under the grip in several places and dribble alcohol in between the bar and grip, twist the grip to distribute the alcohol and slide the grip right off.
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I’ve always had a can of L’Oréal Elnett hairspray for that. It’s a lube when it’s wet and it dries with a bit of a grip
I just use water, then to take off I use an old quick release in between grip and bar, tip a little water in and move the water around using the quick release and off they come.
@@Zzyyxx22 yep they literally don't come off for years with hairspray if you do that with clean bars and grips (grips are not clean inside without a wipe with rubbing alcohol.) My grips would fall apart before coming off when I'd use that method.
Good idea! My go to back in my mtb & bmx days was hairspray. Worked a treat.
Hmmmm, let's see, wonder if I like riser bars? Hahaha guess who? Happy New Year Eric!
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This needs a "raised reversed stem"
You’re missing fenders. For me his bike with the fenders just makes it….how do you say….perfecto
Thanks, I just looked over at the spacers under my stem. I noticed it when I was buying the bike, then my brain stopped noticing. Now I feel an upgrade coming soon.
If the adaptor still uses a quill and wedge, why not just use a regular BMX stem? I love the concept of changing to a riser bar, I've done it to a whole bunch of bikes. As long as I have a long enough seatpost, the riser bars let me use mountain bikes which are too small for me otherwise. I put street tires on them and use them as one-speed cruisers.
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That looks like a 22.2 mm handlebar so you could use a BMX quill stem.
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The quill stem adaptor has changed my weekends - thank you. I have used it on 3 bikes so far and am loving it.
What's up dude? I see TH-cam decided to show you some love for a change and finally post something. How you been man? It's been a while since I've scene a post. Anyway, to show you how the universe works! I have a Bianchi Nyala I'm restoring. I've been fooling around with this machine for over a year, and it's time to do something. My question is, what size quill stem should I ask for? The outside diameter threading is 15/16ths and the inside diameter is 7/8ths of an inch; or is there a standard? Glade to see you back! Peace!
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Not to be a hater or anything but where are you getting these adapters for $9? They're currently like $13 wholesale and $26 MSRP for me... (For good quality ex: dimension, profile design etc. Not considering Amazon stuff where the manufacturer name is all consonants like BBVVNX)
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Surprised this didn't happen before especially given on the bmx content lately.
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Looks cool to me.
If nobody is lining up to promote what you are doing, you absolutely should do it yourself and not waste a second feeling bad about it.
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Dumb question, how does the fork stay in the steerer tube when you remove the quill stem?🤔
The fork is threaded.
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As above: fork steerer is threaded and the headset has a threaded locknut to hold the fork in place.
That's it. My roommate get's a ghetto gravel bike built from the old Crossbike I've got standing around so he won't have to ride his goofy dutch city bike to university
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Maybe flipping the stem upside down would make it look better, I dont know. Last time I put moto bars and bmx stem on my retro mtb, it felt amazing and week after it got stolen. With the adapter also. 😢
I don’t put my front break cable behind other cables due to turning it pulls the front one being it’s not the cable from that bike it fits different. Not exact length
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Shorter less chunky looking stem??
Can you cut the quill adapter to be shorter for less spacers?
No. At least not the ones Ive had
I think it’s the chunky stem making it look a little off. I run a quill stem adapter with a mountain stem and it is a bit sleeker.
I think it's the color that throws off the look. Nothing else is black and then wham huge chunky black bars.
Seatpost is black too?
Ah, the $9 part needs a stem to mount that bar. Your friends could have a discard maybe. I have two 90's MTBs. I am converting one with adaptor to run a second hand pair of VO Crazy bars on a touring bike build. The second I doubled down on a pretty ($$) quill stem with face plate and 24" mm alt bars. Them rare. Adds a certain wispiness to the whip.
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Also, if you happen to own (like I do. Two, actually 😬) an odd duck retro mtb with a 1-1/8 QUILL stem, they make quill adapters in that size too. Headsets are harder to find though 😉
It's like Tinker Tuesday, but on a Tuesday!
awesome! so how do you know what size quill adapter fits, can anyone help? :D
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You can find shorter threadless stem adapters on amazon for $12-15. Worth it to get the right height look.
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For years I ran my Surley Karate Monkey with canti breaks with the center pull straddle hanger so as to quickly switch multiple handlebar systems. It took me 1/2 the length of this vid to go from flat to drop bars & roughly the same amt of time to switch to Ssp w/ the use of 2 sets of quick links. I like to remember that setup as the OG "Quiver Killer".
PS I hate reviewers that use the term "Quiver Killer"
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While converting my 90s MTB I was able t use a 1" threaded fork from a larger bike. The steer tube was long enough to attach the stem directly to is with a shim. I swapped out the headset to a modern one. And cut the steer tube to fit with the # of spacers I wanted. Keep on Tinkering.
I ride bikelife wheelies a couple of the neighbor kids have attempted to ride hard on cheap bikes with quill stems, what I've seen is multiple steer tubes shearing off at weak points where the threads are cut. So be aware that the adapter and bars maybe good but the weak link can be the steer tube in a hard riding situation.
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Whilst watching this, I was literally opening a package containing a quill stem adaptor for my 91 Diamondback that I'm building up👍
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what size did you go with? I also have a 91 diamondback, an apex.
I put a set of Mone' Meal Replacement bars with a "slingshot BMX quill stem and STRIDESLAND Barnacle fork on my ROCKHOPPER...wOwZERS!!!
I converted my rockhopper last summer to riser bars. Turns out I also don’t like the look of the bmx stem in combination with the stem adapter. But it really changed the felling of the bike. Hope I’ll find a solution to make it look better…
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What size spacers are you using on the profile design adapter? I've got the same one and its sticking up and looks ugly and im going insane.
Wow you went to the Grand Canyon for the sound
Echo Echo
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I cut a bit off the top of my adapter to get the slammed look.
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Nice tribute to Stridsland. If only that guy had a fully updated youtube channel I,d be even happier 😂
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Hi there! I bought some motor riserbars from a weird brand, looks kind of big, i think they're 820mm ish, what's the width of this one you are using? nice swap tho! always fun to swap things knowing it'll work with the things you got laying arround hahah
I think you could remove the top cap of the adapter and just cut it (the thicker 1 1/8" section) like you would a normal steerer tube?? Then you wouldn't need the spacers? Never tried this but dont see why it wouldn't work
You could have just installed a taller quill stem and kept the bars instead of installing BMX handle bars. But for some reason you young folk have decided that quill stems are bad, even if the fork is steel. Very confusing.
My specialized has bullmoose bars.
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yo yo yo. i just got a 95' rockhopper ultra and its has a 1 1/8" stem. it was just not thread less. i switched it to thread less and it worked perfectly.
Front brake cable routing is just plain wrong. Don't take it seriously... %)
best part ever. most of my vintage roadbikes have them. my Fakenogo is instantly that much nicer with it
Those new handle bars nearly killed me them and the wheelie bins
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Man, I wish I would have known about this earlier. Maybe they have just recently become popular but I remember trying to find a different stem length for my DIY singlespeed and only turning up with $70+ Nitto stems. The worst thing about the old 'pinch clamp' stems was having to unwrap your handlebars to swap them out. Terrible.
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This has likely been covered at nauseam…. No spacer is needed under the stem when using a quill adapter.
@Spindatt - That 9$ part is now a 20$ part.
I think the problem is the seat, not the bars/stem. Something about it doesn't look right aesthetically
Just build up a surly lowside! Beefed up version of this bike! This bike is dope but you seem unsatisfied
I abhor quill stem adapters.
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Two things that missing to be looked-as stridsland: frameset and a barnacle fork. Hehehe
The stem looks a bit too boxy for that bike, made a difference stem would look cooler, or you could slam the stem and cut the tube down
What brand of bars? I have a 98 Gary Fisher Wahoo I think they would look great on.
you know what, it looks cool.
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For any part you can think that needs an adapter there probably is one. At least in my experience.
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Built mt 73 falcon into A 1×9 gravel bike that way works great .
The downfall of those things is that you wind up with too much stack. No slamdatt. Get out the hack saw.
Hahaha I did this in July last year on a bike I got from the neighbor
What are the light coloured tyres looking some for my build ?. Cheers
Is there a quill stem adaptor that doesn't require removal to change stem?
To find the right bar is like to find a new planet. 🪐
I’ve had great success with these adapters including stupid cold weather. A normal stem cap will not fit because the screw size is different. Keep that in mind when ordering color and logo
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Are those SK tires 26"? I can't find them anywhere!
That seat is flying so far UP. I need to have my bars equal to seat height, at least.
So where can I get the adapter from?
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The Grouch never looked so good!!
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Specs of bike in total ?? Tires wheels frame 👌 , ect
I put Jones HBars on my 86 Rockhopper.
Flip the stem upside down 🫡
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Now how to install a 1" 1/8 fork to a 1" headset? :)
I was just looking at these yesterday for a 90s Raleigh I just bought. Which is there more common size between the 22mm and 25mm adapters?
Hi there
22.2 mm is very common. Pull the existing stem it should be stamped on it. The common for older cruiser schwinns and retro BMX is 21.1 mm. The 25.4 is usually found on less expensive tandems and some older MTBs like GTs
@@613.Rooster cool, thanks! Good to know which size is most common. I'll take your advice and pull out the old one and look for the stamp.
If it’s a 1” threaded headset, then the old quill stem size and therefore adapter size to fit internal diameter of the fork steerer should be 22.2mm
Big fan of the quill adapters, have used on several builds and will use more. The dimension and VO adapters are my faves.
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What type of bars are they?
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They look so tasteless, 25.4 riser bars exist as well
Ever see those caps that cover the lock nuts?
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I used one of these to fit my kid into the stoker position of a '99 Cannondale tandem. The rear adapter was for a 25.4 clamp, and was not adjustable to be long enough for his reach. Anything labeled "tandem" automatically is hard to find and exorbitantly priced. I was able to use a 25.4 to 27.2 seatpost shim to fit into the seat clamp portion of the stoker stem for the quill to cinch into. Voila! Longer, higher spot to use any 28.6 clamp stem into. All told it was under $30 for the quill adapter, shim, and cheap 31.8 clamp stem. I put some swept bars in an appropriate width for him and we were off for tandem rides in high style.
Ah Spindatt, I've missed this channel and the maybe the youtbube gods suggested this because I've always had a softspot for the rockhopper. I even saw a slightly but not much younger rockhopper today, locked to railing but abandoned and stripped of its wheels, and thought 'if only I could Rockhopper this..'
I have several brands' quill adapters, the Profile Design versions sit in a bin. A bit heavy because of its length and steel wedge, Velo Orange's version is elegantly beautiful, ripe for cutting.
The problem I have with the PD version is the top cap outer diameter, it functions as an actual top cap which is not only superfluous on a quill stem, it's a service hindrance and annoyance.
If/when the 'top cap' is the same OD as the quill adapter (28.5 mm) the quill adapter can stay wedged in place in the steer tube, a stem with or without an installed handlebar slips off and on.
Notice that on all your regular quill stems, the 'point' of the quill is always at the back. There's a reason for that (that I've not yet figured out), I always point my quill adapters to the back.
See 0:58. At 1:25 you have it exactly backwards, at 2:58 you have it almost correct. Details, it's where we find genious.
Spacers are of superfluous, aesthetic use only in these applications, they have no functional purpose. Live with it, embrace it for being what it is. It's your bike's way of saying; “I know what I am and I'm proud of it”. Or cut (maybe even carve or engrave) your own spacers out of black ABS or white PVC pipe, paint is optional.
I did mod the 'top cap' on one of my PD adapters by turning the OD down with it chucked in a drill and turning against a grinder. It ended up functional with a ground swirl finish.
Note that this is not a Profile Design rant, I have, love and use several of their handlebars, I'll probably buy more.
The dusty looking tires makes the bike look bad
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If the thread on the bolt of the coil stem adapter are long enough, you can also shorten the 1 1/8" part of the adapter itself to fit your BMX style stem without any spacer, reducing the stack, and giving it an even better look buddy :)
Still so jealous of this bike by the way.
essentially the 1 1/8 adapter is treated as a fork and can be trimmed to accomplish a slammed stem?
@@Thunderthigheli Pretty much, yep :)
I shortened mine on a tandem without any problem since :)
You have both doors! 👍
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It can work even better with an old style 22 mm BMX Quill Stem and then just using an motorcycle handle bar. Done it with my klunker commuter and the looks of it amazes me every time i´m looking at it. ;)
Back to the flat bars please. The Rockhopper looks the business with flat bars. Easily my favourite and most interesting build. You need to do another one!
this is the quietest video in the world
That's my O.G. Rockhopper!
& I kinda liked the factory bars & gooseneck stem :-)