Faster than an M3, drives better than an M3, offers just as nice of an interior as the M3 (well its close), and its a good bit less expensive than the M3. well done Cadillac.
i am sure people will be very upset by the interior remark, but it is true BMW has fallen off in the interior department. BMW was never that great in that department to begin with, but their sporty / unique driving experience let them get away with it. now they no longer have it and they still have their interiors that are out shined by Audi and Mercedes.
Very true i drive the 2.0t ats and i personally liked it better compared to the bmw 3 series. Interior is totally up to the customer as i believer interior is more towards personal preference.
i disagree, well both use a similar level of nappa leather, similar plastic placement areas, and over all similar amounts of injection molds. though the ATSV does use more carbon fiber and more suede. material quality is equal perhaps fit and finish is not quite there.
@Var vlad You guys are biased. Looks are subjective, but put this next to a Giulia QV, an F80, and a W205 C63. This is pretty much the least good looking car in its class
Read a lot of the comments before viewing the video and assumed I would hear the owner being "a dick" or "a douche"..... BUT he didn't say a single word? Not sure what everyone talking about? Did seeing his arm bother everyone that much lol? I have noticed an owners arm randomly in other videos but i guess it was much less hidden?
DO NOT EVER DO ANOTHER REVIEW WITH THE OWNER IN THE PASSENGER SEAT. RUINED IT. Your acceleration and reaction would have been more intense without the largish (obese? buff?) passenger. We live for your acceleration reaction moment.
I have a secret love for the ATS-V... I'd already be in one if it shared the same digital gauges as the CTS-V... They're overpriced however. Look at the used market, the prices are insanely low for barely used ATS-Vs
Since you obviously didn't read what I said, I'll say it again. So it gives you the best performance in its class for the least amount of money, and in your mind that means "overpriced"?
What you have is not relevant. Since you seem to have some kind of reading disability, I'll say it again. So it gives you the best performance in its class for the least amount of money, and in your mind that means "overpriced"? If the ATS-V is overpriced, what does that make the Giulia, the M3, and the C63 S, every single one of which either costs more, has worse performance, or both?
i've spent a lot of hours driving the same car except it has the carbon fiber and alcantara package and is white. in all honesty it's one of the most comfortable vehicles i've ever driven and for what it is; it's actually a reasonable daily driver
1mlb704 Not necessarily, but these analog gauges are utter GM back of the warehouse garbage. Almost like a "fuck you" to the buyer. Analog is fine, but they could've at made them look nice.
Good review except one thing, You shouldn't have used the paddle shift! See Head-2-Head comparison w/ATS-V vs AMG s63. Cadillac designed the 8sp Auto to shift as fast as and/or better than a DCT. I have driven the ATS-V & CTS-V! AWESOME CARS! I am leaning towards the C but the A handles like a Vette! Thanks
I totally agree with the "the cue is good" statement. Every says they hate it and i totally agree with this guy. Its not bad at all works great and even the touch buttons are responsive.
People seem not to realize that a fair number of reviews Subaruwrxfan does has the owners in the car with him or following behind him, we just don't always see them because they are in the backseat or the front seats aren't so close that we can see the passengers arm in the video. This isn't something new, it was just something that was obvious in this video.
I pay attention to that though. When he's alone though he tends to put a camera on the passenger side window pointed in his direction. I tend to prefer the ones in which he is alone .
I want to like it but every time I see a Cadillac interior. The gloss black (fingerprint magnet) and weird capacitive buttons look so cheap to me. The center stack looks like a cheesy boombox or old CD player you would find at a swap meet.
navyrotc2012 Seriously. It's almost an insult to the buyer. It's like they just had some leftover gauges from a 2005 Silverado or something lol. American car companies have really stepped up their games in every way, so these little shortcuts, are pretty inexcusable at this point.
I don't think the cluster looks all that bad. It's kind of retro and sporty, it still has a small information lcd at the bottom for a variety of information. The gauges on lower trim ATS/CTS/XTS are analog and look very similar, but they've been slightly updated. I think even though they're analog and not a complete digital or half digital/half analog, they still look pretty classy and the small touches like the base of the needles glow slightly blow, it's pretty neat. Cadillac was one of the first to go all digital LCD cluster in the luxury segment, so whatever, the higher trim cars have those.
Lol, over react much? The gauges are fine. Yes, they are not as nice as cars that cost significantly more (the cts v or 911's) but they are not bad at all. They are easy to read, and adjustable.
I don't understand why everyone who test drive the 8sp auto is itchiing to use the paddle shift! The car was designed to respond BETTER letting the 8sp do what Cadillac designed it to do! I've driven both V's and Dave Leone is right about the 8sp auto and what is was designed to do! Other than that, good review but leave the owner home next time.
It's a great car...I have a 2017 in that same red..a beast that's easy to drive around all day long. And it's nice not to be like everyone else in the neighborhood with a BMW.
Lol, its called simple Boltons, E85 and a little tunning and you wont worry too much about a CTS-V. ATS-V rocks man! Loved the CTS-V all those years and what was missing was its little brother the ATS-V! Wish Caddy would’ve done this a lot sooner!
could you review the Sierra Denali with the 6.2L? (it's different than the high country with magnetic ride, more sound dampening, aluminium interior trim, french stitched treated leather, ect)
good review as always. I personally miss the pop-up navigation and less fingerprint prone system of the prior gen caddys' along with their more aggressive angular body style - I believe those have become a hot commodity as a result of this. But I am glad that GM is making the V package still.
Really cool car. Not quite a home run with some interior quibbles, but a real credible competitor to the best in the world. Couldn't have said that about any caddy not long ago.
If they had sold these in Australia the head of GM Holden in Australia still might have his job The vehicle that replaced the Australian built Commodore was boring hence the popularity of the Kia stinger. Big front wheel drive cars have never sold well in Australia. 😂😂😂
Cadillac should have kept a similar shape from the front going the opposite direction in the back. The rear is too plain. The boxy look seems a bit outdated and the vented hood makes it look like Cadillac tried to mix the muscle car look with sport and luxury and it doesn't blend well on their cars imo. When you look at the front it screams muscle car which could quickly scare some potential customers away. The rear looks like grandpas a.s.s. while the interior looks like that high class chick with all the bootleg sh.i.t. on.
I luv this car but out of my price range when I drove it power is insane but I dt need all that power. hey, will u b at NY car show n April. would like to meet , talk hangout I'll b wit the family so u can bring ur girl and we do car talk...
Have been watching your channel for years and you have done an excellent job with your videos as well as reviews. I know you have done a 2011 STi review. But would you like to review my 2011 STi limited? Mine is a little bit different than what you have reviewed. I am in Pittsburgh (Mount Lebanon) the car is "stockish" with only 27,000.
The only times I've done this was for the Miata and ATS-V. A modified Miata drove differently and was worth reviewing. The ATS-V was worth reviewing with an automatic since that's the transmission most people go for. I filmed a bunch of reviews in the fall so I wouldn't have to film in the snow.
Anyone who buys a brand new Cadillac is a fool. They depreciate worse than a MB. Anyone that buys ATS-V new is an even bigger fool - but they're a great used car buy. They don't sell because enthusiasts that buy these cars don't want a V6. The car should have had the LT1 in the Camaro SS. It also up shifts quick but down shifts lag, badly. You can find brand new ATS-V from a year ago still on dealer lots - which is why this review is of a 2016 and not a 2017.
all those cars depreciate like crazy none of them hold their value. As soon as you drive a MB C63 off the lot its loses thousands. These arent rare limited production cars my friends
You should look up used gen 2 CTS-V prices on autotrader before assuming they depreciate badly. Because they don't. Go ahead, look it up for yourself. "They don't sell because enthusiasts that buy these cars don't want a V6." Not even slightly true. The M3/M4 outsells the ATS-V by tens of thousands of units, and that ALSO has a 6. So there goes that theory.
First of all the CTS-V is a supercharged V8, not a V6 - so why are quoting that? The gen2 CTS-V is the poster child for why you WOULDN'T buy this car new dumb ass. This is a car that sold for $80-$100k brand new. All of the gen2's are selling in the $40-50k range. They've already lost half their value, making them one of, if not the best used performance sedan buys available. The 2012's (gen2) are already fully depreciated! Even the current gen CTS-V loses $20-30k after year 1 in depreciation - and that's based on listed prices from Autotrader: www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/Cadillac/CTS/West+Harrison+NY-10604?zip=10604&showcaseOwnerId=68878&startYear=2016&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=CTS&makeCodeList=CAD&listingTypes=used%2Ccertified%2Cnew&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=0&trimCodeList=CTS%7CV&numRecords=25 And just based on Autotrader alone I found 19 brand new 2016 CTS-V's still sitting on dealer lots. So do you honestly think they're not going to still be selling these brand new cars at a discount to move them off their lots? Those mark downs are all factored into their depreciated value. Most cars absorb the majority of their depreciation in years 1 and 2. After year 4 they're barely going to budge. That's why I pointed out that this review is of a "new" 2016 ATS-V and not a 2017. So let's now look at new car sales numbers for the CTS: www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/06/chart-day-cadillac-cts-sales-41-2015/ 2013 - sales volume declined 31% 2014 - sales volumedeclined 35% 2015 - sales volumedeclined 41% Here's the ATS sales performance for shits and giggles (down 36%): gmauthority.com/blog/2016/11/cadillac-ats-sales-numbers-figures-results-october-2016/ So since GM can't even sell all of its new inventory of the ATS-V and CTS-V, the fool that went an ordered this car new, paying MSRP got killed. And if you can get a 2016 left over from the current generation at a discount, why would anyone pay a premium to buy a new 2017? This cycle has been going on for years now and Cadillac can't escape it. Both V series cars are also low volume cars by nature compared to the standard model variants of the ATS and CTS, making them even harder for dealers to move. They make fewer of them and they still can't sell all of their inventory year after year. For the record I own a highly modified gen6 Camaro, so if anything I biased towards GM.
Nick Nick "First of all the CTS-V is a supercharged V8, not a V6 - so why are quoting that?" Because it's an example of how well V series Cadillacs hold their value. I would have thought that was obvious. "The gen2 CTS-V is the poster child for why you WOULDN'T buy this car new dumb ass. This is a car that sold for $80-$100k brand new." The gen 2 CTS-V sold for $62k brand new. So who's the dumbass again? "They've already lost half their value" See above for you not knowing how much the gen 2 CTS-V's MSRP was. "Even the current gen CTS-V loses $20-30k after year 1 in depreciation" I like how you're only referencing the absolute lowest prices, which of course are cars that have more MILES on them. Mileage does actually decrease the price of a used vehicle, I'm not sure if you understood that or not. In that link you gave me there are not only CTS-Vs in the $70k range, but CTS-Vs in the $80k range. MSRP is $85k. "And just based on Autotrader alone I found 19 brand new 2016 CTS-V's still sitting on dealer lots. " Are you seriously telling me you think I can't find brand new [ INSERT LITERALLY ANY CAR HERE ] sitting on dealer lots? How stupid are you? "So do you honestly think they're not going to still be selling these brand new cars at a discount to move them off their lots?" No, and the reason for that is because they have actually sold out of CTS-Vs completely and there is a 4 month waiting list to order them. You can verify that on your own, and I highly suggest you do that. There was more demand than supply. "And if you can get a 2016 left over from the current generation at a discount, why would anyone pay a premium to buy a new 2017?" You understand that applies to any car from any company, right? Why are you under the impression that only applies to Cadillacs? Also I noticed you didn't address your idiotic "people don't want a V6" comment. Typical.
LOL. No. In every way? Hmmm. Not according to the track time set by a professional. Q50 has a more luxurious interior look but the ride is no where near comfortable nor as fun as the ATS V.
I had a '14 CTS Vsport and I won't buy another Cadillac until they replace or greatly, greatly improve Cue. It truly is incredibly laggy, unintuitive and just awkward as hell. Even only a physical volume knob would help. One of the greatest sins is not being able to "seek" within tracks while they're playing by touching on the tracking time bar - why in the hell is that not available? It worked great in a base model Golf I rented. Also, its "boot up" of SD card music is painfully slow. It really is a mess of a system. Caddy also had way too many nanny controls and alerts on it that drove me absolutely mad.
I've said this before, all Cadillac V Series should come standard with that 12.3 inch digital instrument cluster, wish the V Series has the Kona brown leather package available
Faster than an M3, drives better than an M3, offers just as nice of an interior as the M3 (well its close), and its a good bit less expensive than the M3. well done Cadillac.
i am sure people will be very upset by the interior remark, but it is true BMW has fallen off in the interior department. BMW was never that great in that department to begin with, but their sporty / unique driving experience let them get away with it. now they no longer have it and they still have their interiors that are out shined by Audi and Mercedes.
Very true i drive the 2.0t ats and i personally liked it better compared to the bmw 3 series. Interior is totally up to the customer as i believer interior is more towards personal preference.
justin bouche interior layout in the 3 I think is better but as far as materials they are equal.
i disagree, well both use a similar level of nappa leather, similar plastic placement areas, and over all similar amounts of injection molds. though the ATSV does use more carbon fiber and more suede. material quality is equal perhaps fit and finish is not quite there.
justin bouche I personally like the e92 m3 the most
You know shit is about to go down when you hear subaruwrxfan say " Alright let's turn on to this back road here, and see how it does"
Love the hood, I think that's what makes this car look so good.
Compared to its competitors it doesn't look that good tbh
That's where you're wrong kiddo
@Var vlad You guys are biased. Looks are subjective, but put this next to a Giulia QV, an F80, and a W205 C63. This is pretty much the least good looking car in its class
"let's turn down this back road here" ....... lmfaoooooo should be on shirt hilarious
Some people dont like the exhaust note, but I think it sounds pretty good
Ervin0310 should be louder but cold starts sound really good
7:20
you are welcome
All hail GM
I prefer Ford over Chevy/GMC but I do like Cadillac way more than Lincoln.
Read a lot of the comments before viewing the video and assumed I would hear the owner being "a dick" or "a douche"..... BUT he didn't say a single word? Not sure what everyone talking about? Did seeing his arm bother everyone that much lol? I have noticed an owners arm randomly in other videos but i guess it was much less hidden?
DO NOT EVER DO ANOTHER REVIEW WITH THE OWNER IN THE PASSENGER SEAT. RUINED IT. Your acceleration and reaction would have been more intense without the largish (obese? buff?) passenger. We live for your acceleration reaction moment.
Yeah tell the owner what to do. Eyeroll...
I have a secret love for the ATS-V... I'd already be in one if it shared the same digital gauges as the CTS-V... They're overpriced however. Look at the used market, the prices are insanely low for barely used ATS-Vs
So it gives you the best performance in its class for the least amount of money, and in your mind that means "overpriced"?
In relation to how fast the value drops, they should be about 58k But the LT1 in it and I'd spend 65k
Since you obviously didn't read what I said, I'll say it again.
So it gives you the best performance in its class for the least amount of money, and in your mind that means "overpriced"?
replying to trolls on TH-cam... "class" laughable, for the money I spent I have more performance.
What you have is not relevant. Since you seem to have some kind of reading disability, I'll say it again.
So it gives you the best performance in its class for the least amount of money, and in your mind that means "overpriced"?
If the ATS-V is overpriced, what does that make the Giulia, the M3, and the C63 S, every single one of which either costs more, has worse performance, or both?
i've spent a lot of hours driving the same car except it has the carbon fiber and alcantara package and is white. in all honesty it's one of the most comfortable vehicles i've ever driven and for what it is; it's actually a reasonable daily driver
Am I the only one who prefers analog gauges over digital ones?
1mlb704 Not necessarily, but these analog gauges are utter GM back of the warehouse garbage. Almost like a "fuck you" to the buyer. Analog is fine, but they could've at made them look nice.
I sure do. I was a test driver and when there's a lot going on, it's all about function . I want a manual too, now that they are back from lease.
I say Automatic Transmission ATS-V instead of a Manual ATS-V
Good review except one thing, You shouldn't have used the paddle shift! See Head-2-Head comparison w/ATS-V vs AMG s63. Cadillac designed the 8sp Auto to shift as fast as and/or better than a DCT. I have driven the ATS-V & CTS-V! AWESOME CARS! I am leaning towards the C but the A handles like a Vette! Thanks
Cadillac is doing great. They need to update the interiors for the V's.
Sounds like a better car than most BMW's.
it is
I been thinking about getting it
I totally agree with the "the cue is good" statement. Every says they hate it and i totally agree with this guy. Its not bad at all works great and even the touch buttons are responsive.
The "Cadillac ATS-V" is definely my favorite Cadillac after my "ATS" p.s. From Europe 😀😂
People seem not to realize that a fair number of reviews Subaruwrxfan does has the owners in the car with him or following behind him, we just don't always see them because they are in the backseat or the front seats aren't so close that we can see the passengers arm in the video.
This isn't something new, it was just something that was obvious in this video.
Exactly, thank you. Normally they're not visible to the camera, with the interior design of the ATS-V it was unavoidable.
Ive noticed this as well, quite a few cars had the passenger in it, but out of cam view.
I pay attention to that though. When he's alone though he tends to put a camera on the passenger side window pointed in his direction. I tend to prefer the ones in which he is alone
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subaruwrxfan do you think you can do more like this?
so the ATS V more exciting to drive than the M3/M4? quite a bit cheaper too
Hoping when it becomes available we'll see a review of the 2018 Audi S4
I want to like it but every time I see a Cadillac interior. The gloss black (fingerprint magnet) and weird capacitive buttons look so cheap to me. The center stack looks like a cheesy boombox or old CD player you would find at a swap meet.
Those gauges are gross, reminds me on 1995 Oldsmobile cutless ciera gauges. Another GM gem. Google it. Lol
Vanneker Seriously. I really want to know who gave the ok on that!!
jamdwhi yeah, it sounds bad but that's what stops me from buying. Should have gone digital Cadillac
navyrotc2012 Seriously. It's almost an insult to the buyer. It's like they just had some leftover gauges from a 2005 Silverado or something lol. American car companies have really stepped up their games in every way, so these little shortcuts, are pretty inexcusable at this point.
I don't think the cluster looks all that bad. It's kind of retro and sporty, it still has a small information lcd at the bottom for a variety of information. The gauges on lower trim ATS/CTS/XTS are analog and look very similar, but they've been slightly updated. I think even though they're analog and not a complete digital or half digital/half analog, they still look pretty classy and the small touches like the base of the needles glow slightly blow, it's pretty neat. Cadillac was one of the first to go all digital LCD cluster in the luxury segment, so whatever, the higher trim cars have those.
Lol, over react much? The gauges are fine. Yes, they are not as nice as cars that cost significantly more (the cts v or 911's) but they are not bad at all. They are easy to read, and adjustable.
Why the owner wouldn't let you drive the car by yourself
I don't understand why everyone who test drive the 8sp auto is itchiing to use the paddle shift! The car was designed to respond BETTER letting the 8sp do what Cadillac designed it to do! I've driven both V's and Dave Leone is right about the 8sp auto and what is was designed to do! Other than that, good review but leave the owner home next time.
Yeah a lot of people just go along for the ride.
I'm a simple man. I see a subaruwrxfan video, I click like.
Hey if I owned a ATS-V I'd like to ride on it too..... they're awesome
Beautiful car...love me some Caddys!
It's a great car...I have a 2017 in that same red..a beast that's easy to drive around all day long. And it's nice not to be like everyone else in the neighborhood with a BMW.
How reliable are this things though??
I'm thinking about trading in my 2020 Acura TLX for this exact model how reliable has it been?
They would sell more of these if they had a V8 option. What a shame.
Not likely. And in terms of power you're not gaining anything by going to the LT1 V8.
0-60 in under 4 sex.....works for me.
thank you for bringing back the exhaust noise on start up
Lol, its called simple Boltons, E85 and a little tunning and you wont worry too much about a CTS-V. ATS-V rocks man!
Loved the CTS-V all those years and what was missing was its little brother the ATS-V! Wish Caddy would’ve done this a lot sooner!
Review the 2015-2016 Audi s4!!!
This is about a American car. :)
Matt, your doing great reviews. I would change your channel name though.. Come up with a name that includes 'backroad'. That really is your thing..
i can’t wait til i grow up, i’m 15 and i’ve looked at ats v’s and they’re in low 40’s to mid 30’s, i can’t wait to buy one
No way I would like those buttons on the center stack and they always get worse with age
Art Vandelay I'm a import exporter.
could you review the Sierra Denali with the 6.2L? (it's different than the high country with magnetic ride, more sound dampening, aluminium interior trim, french stitched treated leather, ect)
Nice review. Cadillac have the most classy interiors, bare none. Futuristic luxury.
Sharp sporty car, but that backseat legroom looks atrocious.
So It doesn’t come with a spare tire ??? Somebody, anybody, do it comes with a spare
good review as always. I personally miss the pop-up navigation and less fingerprint prone system of the prior gen caddys' along with their more aggressive angular body style - I believe those have become a hot commodity as a result of this. But I am glad that GM is making the V package still.
I always watch this channel. Love it.How about another mini cooper hardtop review?
Really cool car. Not quite a home run with some interior quibbles, but a real credible competitor to the best in the world. Couldn't have said that about any caddy not long ago.
how much. .this car??! this is the only American car I'd buy
julio almanza used you can get them from 47000-55000
Hope y'all enjoy my car review GUYS
Awesome video, love the car. I would love to see you review a Giulia Quadrifoglio!
would you choose a used ATSV or a new Camaro SS?
I'd personally go for the Camaro SS simply for the V8, but if you want 4 doors this is tough to beat.
CTSV all the way
corvette lover69 get a C7 Z51 2014s are below 50k used now.
JoshAlpaca no one asked you
I would get the ATS V, but I need the backseat for my son and jack russel.
If they had sold these in Australia the head of GM Holden in Australia still might have his job
The vehicle that replaced the Australian built Commodore was boring hence the popularity of the Kia stinger.
Big front wheel drive cars have never sold well in Australia.
😂😂😂
Cadillac should have kept a similar shape from the front going the opposite direction in the back. The rear is too plain. The boxy look seems a bit outdated and the vented hood makes it look like Cadillac tried to mix the muscle car look with sport and luxury and it doesn't blend well on their cars imo. When you look at the front it screams muscle car which could quickly scare some potential customers away. The rear looks like grandpas a.s.s. while the interior looks like that high class chick with all the bootleg sh.i.t. on.
How boring to have any automatic
love the quality and edit in this video keep up the good work
I luv this car but out of my price range when I drove it power is insane but I dt need all that power. hey, will u b at NY car show n April. would like to meet , talk hangout I'll b wit the family so u can bring ur girl and we do car talk...
Omg!🤤ATS sharp
Best car review channel out there !
Have been watching your channel for years and you have done an excellent job with your videos as well as reviews. I know you have done a 2011 STi review. But would you like to review my 2011 STi limited? Mine is a little bit different than what you have reviewed. I am in Pittsburgh (Mount Lebanon) the car is "stockish" with only 27,000.
You missed the hidden compartment, if you touch the bottom of the climate control it opens.
COOL Review: 2016 Cadillac ATS-V (Automatic)
If the owners ride along they should help you with holding the camera or something
@Matt Maran Motoring,
What is faster?
The 2017 ATS V or 2017 Chevy ss
Help me out here because I am in the market for either one...
The V by 1/2 second
V-sport is the way to go, best of both worlds!!!! 😊
These have no lift shit in manual I love these things want to get my wife one in Miami blue with red interior
Perfect engine for a new Buick GNX...
Loved the video Matt.
The Atlanta Falcons are going to win the super bowl
And I'm gonna be there to watch it!
Matt Ryan MVP
julius jones unfortunately you and I were both wrong lol 🤣
Do these come with apple carplay?
Subaruwrxfan plz do a review on a 02 camaro ss
Either the car has a lot of wind noise OR Matt has a window open.
Oops, ATS V has a 3.6L motor
saw one yesterday in grey. wish there are more of these on the road than M3's. Nothing against the M3
I don't why, but for some reason I thought the ATS-V and CTS-Vsport had a twin-turbo 4.0L V6?
Xtwonine none do
It's not a Benz lol
3.6L V6.
What's the name of his red color?
gracie jiujitsu
i can't wait for the new 10 speed to get put into this later this year.
in this, the cts-v, the corvettes, and the ct6. Can't wait
That never happened unfortunately, now it’s discontinued
stop putting out reviews of the same cars. you haven't been reviewing recently? because all these reviews were from summer it seems.
The only times I've done this was for the Miata and ATS-V. A modified Miata drove differently and was worth reviewing. The ATS-V was worth reviewing with an automatic since that's the transmission most people go for. I filmed a bunch of reviews in the fall so I wouldn't have to film in the snow.
subaruwrxfan I just wanted to see something different is all.
Hey Matt, which feels faster: this or the m3/m4?
Happy to say I saw this review, when this was first uploaded and finally got my hands on one! Thanks @mattmoranmotoring
Congrats on getting one Jordan! I hope it treats you well and that you enjoy it for a long time! They're still awesome cars!
Lot of mistakes in this one
Not the same power plant at all
I'm upgrading to cadilac 👍
Matt, would you take the CT4 v sedan over the ATS v sedan? Why?
I'd take the ATS-V because it's still a lot faster. The real successor to the ATS-V will be the CT4-V Blackwing.
@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks. Starting to shop around for next Uber Compact.
its a 3.6L V6.
you think the 10&2 knotches are big on this. look at the knotches on a Saab 9-3 wheel lol
the hell is a knotch
Vernon Price notches
If the gauge cluster wasn't so bad, then I would pick it up in a heart beat
Agreed 100%. People say that's a dumb reason to avoid a car, but it's honestly the thing you're looking at the most as a driver.
I agree, with prices now dropped on these though, and tutorials out for a digital cluster swap...very tempting.
That is a nice car my dood.
Love the Vs
Hey
i stopped watching the video at...reading the title
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CADILLAC CTS V VS CHEVY SS
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Dream car right now. Hopefully they'll depreciate like crazy in 2-5 years.
UnbendingNose already have depreciated a ton
BIGWEBB88 Yep, hope they keep going.
UnbendingNose the car in the video has a trade in value in the 40s with an msrp at 78k. Your dream car is closer than you think.
Yup 30k
Anyone who buys a brand new Cadillac is a fool. They depreciate worse than a MB. Anyone that buys ATS-V new is an even bigger fool - but they're a great used car buy. They don't sell because enthusiasts that buy these cars don't want a V6. The car should have had the LT1 in the Camaro SS. It also up shifts quick but down shifts lag, badly. You can find brand new ATS-V from a year ago still on dealer lots - which is why this review is of a 2016 and not a 2017.
all those cars depreciate like crazy none of them hold their value. As soon as you drive a MB C63 off the lot its loses thousands. These arent rare limited production cars my friends
Not what I said.
You should look up used gen 2 CTS-V prices on autotrader before assuming they depreciate badly. Because they don't. Go ahead, look it up for yourself.
"They don't sell because enthusiasts that buy these cars don't want a V6."
Not even slightly true. The M3/M4 outsells the ATS-V by tens of thousands of units, and that ALSO has a 6. So there goes that theory.
First of all the CTS-V is a supercharged V8, not a V6 - so why are quoting that? The gen2 CTS-V is the poster child for why you WOULDN'T buy this car new dumb ass. This is a car that sold for $80-$100k brand new. All of the gen2's are selling in the $40-50k range. They've already lost half their value, making them one of, if not the best used performance sedan buys available. The 2012's (gen2) are already fully depreciated!
Even the current gen CTS-V loses $20-30k after year 1 in depreciation - and that's based on listed prices from Autotrader:
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Used+Cars/Cadillac/CTS/West+Harrison+NY-10604?zip=10604&showcaseOwnerId=68878&startYear=2016&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=CTS&makeCodeList=CAD&listingTypes=used%2Ccertified%2Cnew&firstRecord=0&searchRadius=0&trimCodeList=CTS%7CV&numRecords=25
And just based on Autotrader alone I found 19 brand new 2016 CTS-V's still sitting on dealer lots. So do you honestly think they're not going to still be selling these brand new cars at a discount to move them off their lots? Those mark downs are all factored into their depreciated value. Most cars absorb the majority of their depreciation in years 1 and 2. After year 4 they're barely going to budge. That's why I pointed out that this review is of a "new" 2016 ATS-V and not a 2017.
So let's now look at new car sales numbers for the CTS: www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/06/chart-day-cadillac-cts-sales-41-2015/
2013 - sales volume declined 31%
2014 - sales volumedeclined 35%
2015 - sales volumedeclined 41%
Here's the ATS sales performance for shits and giggles (down 36%): gmauthority.com/blog/2016/11/cadillac-ats-sales-numbers-figures-results-october-2016/
So since GM can't even sell all of its new inventory of the ATS-V and CTS-V, the fool that went an ordered this car new, paying MSRP got killed. And if you can get a 2016 left over from the current generation at a discount, why would anyone pay a premium to buy a new 2017? This cycle has been going on for years now and Cadillac can't escape it. Both V series cars are also low volume cars by nature compared to the standard model variants of the ATS and CTS, making them even harder for dealers to move. They make fewer of them and they still can't sell all of their inventory year after year.
For the record I own a highly modified gen6 Camaro, so if anything I biased towards GM.
Nick Nick "First of all the CTS-V is a supercharged V8, not a V6 - so why are quoting that?"
Because it's an example of how well V series Cadillacs hold their value. I would have thought that was obvious.
"The gen2 CTS-V is the poster child for why you WOULDN'T buy this car new dumb ass. This is a car that sold for $80-$100k brand new."
The gen 2 CTS-V sold for $62k brand new. So who's the dumbass again?
"They've already lost half their value"
See above for you not knowing how much the gen 2 CTS-V's MSRP was.
"Even the current gen CTS-V loses $20-30k after year 1 in depreciation"
I like how you're only referencing the absolute lowest prices, which of course are cars that have more MILES on them. Mileage does actually decrease the price of a used vehicle, I'm not sure if you understood that or not. In that link you gave me there are not only CTS-Vs in the $70k range, but CTS-Vs in the $80k range. MSRP is $85k.
"And just based on Autotrader alone I found 19 brand new 2016 CTS-V's still sitting on dealer lots. "
Are you seriously telling me you think I can't find brand new [ INSERT LITERALLY ANY CAR HERE ] sitting on dealer lots? How stupid are you?
"So do you honestly think they're not going to still be selling these brand new cars at a discount to move them off their lots?"
No, and the reason for that is because they have actually sold out of CTS-Vs completely and there is a 4 month waiting list to order them. You can verify that on your own, and I highly suggest you do that. There was more demand than supply.
"And if you can get a 2016 left over from the current generation at a discount, why would anyone pay a premium to buy a new 2017?"
You understand that applies to any car from any company, right? Why are you under the impression that only applies to Cadillacs?
Also I noticed you didn't address your idiotic "people don't want a V6" comment. Typical.
hey Matt, why did you lose 1,5 million views?
I think there was a TH-cam glitch with view reporting. Overall the channel is still up 51% on views over the past 30 days.
Okey, keep up the good work. If you reach 500 000 subs, you could afford a Ferrari F12 or Shelby Super Snake ;)
Spotted a 2015 challenger in the back at 1:13 😍
That's the one I reviewed back in the fall. It was a blast.
subaruwrxfan so awesome!!!
I'd take the manual, that's a hue upside to this over the CTS-V. The rev-match feature is terrific.
What toothpaste do you use?
fuckoff with extra whitening power
Leuff asking the real questions here
GM is making great performance cars (ATS V, CTS V, Camaro, Corvette) now only if they could do as well in normal everyday cars.
Swap the V6TT with the LT1 from a Camaro
No....
@@StrideX21 LT1 sounds much better but it's a cramped engine bay that isn't really for a V8
pontiacGXPfan yeah installing headers wasn’t fun lol
q50 is better than this in every way
Nissan GTR Fanboy Infiniti doesn't even have a competitor for this class. Your name says it all though. No point in arguing with a stuck up fanboy.
no
have both the infiniti and cadillac. Not even close. Cadillac by a mile.
LOL. No. In every way? Hmmm. Not according to the track time set by a professional. Q50 has a more luxurious interior look but the ride is no where near comfortable nor as fun as the ATS V.
Capacitive touch buttons on a large, glossy, piano black plastic panel...someone didn't think that all the way through.
You can use the silver buttons and not touch the black at all.
I had a '14 CTS Vsport and I won't buy another Cadillac until they replace or greatly, greatly improve Cue. It truly is incredibly laggy, unintuitive and just awkward as hell. Even only a physical volume knob would help. One of the greatest sins is not being able to "seek" within tracks while they're playing by touching on the tracking time bar - why in the hell is that not available? It worked great in a base model Golf I rented. Also, its "boot up" of SD card music is painfully slow. It really is a mess of a system. Caddy also had way too many nanny controls and alerts on it that drove me absolutely mad.
I've said this before, all Cadillac V Series should come standard with that 12.3 inch digital instrument cluster, wish the V Series has the Kona brown leather package available