imagine a game where you have a level like the movie Poseidon, where you have to survive inside a ship turned upside down and you have a few hours for the ship to fill with water, it would be desperate. A great level for an uncharted game hahaha Great simulation
hahaha yeah I know. Uncharted 3 do not have any simulations, so that scene it is not valid. Same for the Wario game, and both are not ship games. What about a thriller inside the ship? :D Would be great Right?
That's fantastic! A management game where you'd try to close doors, restart water pumps and save the ship would be absolutely insane as this has countless possibilities to where the influx of water would be! Really great stuff here!
amputation is used in medical procedures, its far from ideal but you do what you must to survive, the question is could they have done it before they lost access to the deepest structural elements. and would the water hammer have caused the next bulkhead to fail. i often wonder what military damage control looks like. @@egoboundd
Impressive when you know how hard developing real-time water physics have been all these years. And now, we finally start seeing realistic water mouvement ! Opens a lot of new possibilities in video games / simulation software etc
@DaKrawnik420 Yeah well, 9 years old, and this physic was never implemented in any games most probably because on large areas it'd have been a perf killer. I believe that with Unreal Engine 5 it'd allow this kind of physics into an actual game :)
That vortex in the comm room is pretty scary. Notice how fast the water rises and how strong the current is. When Titanic sank, these vortexes were lteral death traps.
Nice little fluid simulation with the Niagara system in UE5. It reminds me of what I'm currently thought-boxing, turning it into actual rain. Not the faked rain you get with the regular old camera tricks, but real rain that will really flow down slopes and pool into puddles. Evaporate into steam or become drinking locations for those thirsty enough.
This isn't Niagara, it's a plugin called Fluid Flux. Unless rain is the main feature of your game, I don't think it's feasible to simulate it at the level you're thinking about. Rain is faked in games not because we can't simulate it, but because it's too expensive to do so.
As GS said, you'd pretty much always want to fake rain since it's just not worth it to simulate. I wanna add that you can even fake everything else you talked about! Rain is pretty much homogen, so you could have a simple algorithm that dictates where puddles rise on your landscape (you could even have some kind of wetness map or some parameter in your vertex datas that keeps track of the local water height. You could then simulate water flowing to the lowest points using this map and your heightmap. Even evaporation and steam could be built on top of this concept of wetness map. If you really wanna go the extra kilometer, you can partition your world into a 3d grid and have each cell contains its steam density (I think Teardown does that but I'm not sure). Anyway, when you're thinking about simulating things for real time apps, it's always a good idea to look at all the alternatives first. I'm sure that the ideas I just talked about (or others like them) would be as convincing as a full simulation if done right!
@@lolyankovic6952 the map in rdr2 is almost entirely static, so it's very unlikely there's any kind of simulation for the rain. There may be some kind of "puddle map" that's been premade. basically, That would allow the game to interpolate between dry (no map) and max wetness (100% puddle map). Could also be another technique, but the point is, I think it's premade, not procedural or simulated. Rdr2 does have procedural water displacement, tho. That's when you shoot in the water and the polygons move like a wave, instead of just a texture like in older/ lower budgets games. Still not simulation per say, but the visual result is quite convincing! Just realized I'm writing fucking twelve page essays in these comments, sorry about that haha
Trying to wrap my brain around what this upcoming project could be. My mind is blown with the possibilities. Can't wait! Will be watching each development very closely!
This looks amazing, some of the best water effects I have ever seen in a game. It's really starting to take shape. I hope the game has some sort of campaign/narrative when released.
Playing a game where you get to experience the horror of what it would feel like to be in the titanic when it sank would be a great historical experience as to why it was so tragic.
Thanks, amazing asset - I'm still learning and testing with it, having some issues as I need to tilt a whole map, that means some geometry gets blocked off, but these result already has me hooked! Would've loved to get in contact with you for some more guidance and tips some day!
@@hermanjarl I was suspecting that tilting may be problematic which is why I think using velocity source and rotating camera instead of the ship may solve your problem.
Amazing. Is there any way to reduce the viscosity or it this the engine limit for processing reasons? It still looks a lot like gel in this one, albeit much much more realistic.
It looks like its high in viscosity because there's so little detail in the water, its actual viscosity is fine. Its probably bumped down due to performance issues with high fidelity simulations
I think you guys are actually right, the flow of the water actually looks right. It’s just the lack of details in this flowing water and also the fact that it doesn’t splash while flowing around like crazy or make anything wet makes it look odd and gooey
I think its both the way water reflections look a bit rough, but also how the simulation is just a bit limited. Its like the water is spreading in "blocks", or like a tough wave like magma.
Most people don't realize that when a ship is sinking the water flows at such force it can bend metal. it's a current as its forcing its way though a limited space. so you can easily be drug under or even swept even further down in the ship. the sim looks neat as hell tho.
How you managed to pull this off is beyond my comprehension. I applaud you, Herman, in all honesty! I never even manage to pull this off in Blender, and I can see a bright future for you.
Wondering if you know which settings should I adjust to enable water flow underneath my bridge? The debug mesh currently blocks the water at the bridge's start and end, preventing it from flowing through.
Yoooo sick I've been waiting for someone to try and make something like this in a game ever since I've seen those blender animations that add water to games.
This could be a good game on equity, Random starting passenger, rich or poor, who has the most chance of surviving, the path out with each of the 2,240 possible starting passenger/crew would be a whole different story.
Dude! your always a head of me :P I just now taught about fluid flux as a awesome simulation to use on the titanic project. All i think it needs is some preset standards for how the water flows to small cracks of doors based on the pressure in the filling room. And i guess there was airvents that did NOT seal water out pretty well. This also needs to be kind of pre simulated by settings placed on those areas affected. I see that Fluid Flux perhaps need some visible settings for the amount of "vertex points" (If that is what would be the right term for the "mesh" simulated in real time. It looks to create some very hard 70-90 degree slopes instead of flow smooth and build up. Look from @0:16 to @0:25 and you see what i mean I need to get my hads on that project, and buy Fluid Flux 😍😍
Still not getting it right. It seems to have too much structural coherence to the body of water. As evidenced by the 'block' of water seen moving through the corridor and settling in a square like fashion in areas with very small amounts of water
What about the water crashing against the wall.. With that kind of force it splashes upwards violently and froth's a lot.. And the bulge looks too static.. Can you make it do a whole bunch of random settings to make it look more real? Wonder if you can make it so the weight of the water will burst through walls? Give the wall a setting and set up some random animations or something so it doesn't break down or get through the same way each time..
Physics look good, but the water needs a bit more spray and splashing. Water moving that fast splashes when it hits the wall. This all stays together and looks more like loose jello.
This is state of the art? Why? Because it uses RTX? I’m sure we could’ve made something like this years ago. Water physics have been a thing since like 2013!
Because this is real time. Show me a game from the 2013 era that can simulate currents, collision and vortexes in water - without it being cache-baked and covered with particle systems. I never claimed this was state of the art and its not perfect, but the developer has done an incredible job - and for game and real-time technology this is a giant leap.
I hope the Ps5 and the Xbox Series consoles have the necessary processing power for simulation for things like physics simulations or maybe mass crowd AI. I don't want new games to simply be prettier, I also want them to be more interactive. Immersion arises when all the pieces fall into place.
imagine a game where you have a level like the movie Poseidon, where you have to survive inside a ship turned upside down and you have a few hours for the ship to fill with water, it would be desperate. A great level for an uncharted game hahaha Great simulation
im taking notes ;)
uncharted 3
Wario Land 3 did this in the 90s.
Try harder.
@@mitzycasanova9041 🤓
hahaha yeah I know. Uncharted 3 do not have any simulations, so that scene it is not valid. Same for the Wario game, and both are not ship games. What about a thriller inside the ship? :D Would be great Right?
This really emphasizes how terrifying it must have been to be aboard the sinking Titanic. Great work man.
I think it shows how terrifying it would be to be aboard any ship sinking
@@TastyMeat8675 Mr redshirt seems to be taking it pretty well though tbh
With a T-Pose
The only terrifying thing here is "must of"
Must have* (or must've) not must of lmao.
That's fantastic! A management game where you'd try to close doors, restart water pumps and save the ship would be absolutely insane as this has countless possibilities to where the influx of water would be! Really great stuff here!
Yeah, I don’t think titanic was save able
@@egoboundd definitely not considering the size of the hole torn in it by the iceberg. Could still make a cool game I guess.
depends if she had explosives in the cargo hold, they could have blown the bow off@@egoboundd
@@nickolastd21 thats crazy engineering
amputation is used in medical procedures, its far from ideal but you do what you must to survive,
the question is could they have done it before they lost access to the deepest structural elements.
and would the water hammer have caused the next bulkhead to fail.
i often wonder what military damage control looks like.
@@egoboundd
Can't believe this accurate simulation is real-time
Impressive when you know how hard developing real-time water physics have been all these years. And now, we finally start seeing realistic water mouvement ! Opens a lot of new possibilities in video games / simulation software etc
@DaKrawnik420 Yeah well, 9 years old, and this physic was never implemented in any games most probably because on large areas it'd have been a perf killer. I believe that with Unreal Engine 5 it'd allow this kind of physics into an actual game :)
That vortex in the comm room is pretty scary. Notice how fast the water rises and how strong the current is.
When Titanic sank, these vortexes were lteral death traps.
It really gives an understanding of why people couldn’t just swim out as the water was rising.
For some reason I read 'legal' deathtrap.
imagine the FUCKIN whirlpool when Titanic was completly under water... imagine the force!
those vortices are produced by a different mechanism, though, when the ship sank
I truly can't get enough of this content - amazing stuff!
Damn, that couple really just immediately accepted their fate before the water came in and even did the “T-pose” to be defiant. Respect!
Nice little fluid simulation with the Niagara system in UE5. It reminds me of what I'm currently thought-boxing, turning it into actual rain. Not the faked rain you get with the regular old camera tricks, but real rain that will really flow down slopes and pool into puddles. Evaporate into steam or become drinking locations for those thirsty enough.
This isn't Niagara, it's a plugin called Fluid Flux. Unless rain is the main feature of your game, I don't think it's feasible to simulate it at the level you're thinking about. Rain is faked in games not because we can't simulate it, but because it's too expensive to do so.
As GS said, you'd pretty much always want to fake rain since it's just not worth it to simulate. I wanna add that you can even fake everything else you talked about!
Rain is pretty much homogen, so you could have a simple algorithm that dictates where puddles rise on your landscape (you could even have some kind of wetness map or some parameter in your vertex datas that keeps track of the local water height. You could then simulate water flowing to the lowest points using this map and your heightmap.
Even evaporation and steam could be built on top of this concept of wetness map. If you really wanna go the extra kilometer, you can partition your world into a 3d grid and have each cell contains its steam density (I think Teardown does that but I'm not sure).
Anyway, when you're thinking about simulating things for real time apps, it's always a good idea to look at all the alternatives first. I'm sure that the ideas I just talked about (or others like them) would be as convincing as a full simulation if done right!
@@ohhnyx9229 this guy devs^
Does rdr2 do it?
@@lolyankovic6952 the map in rdr2 is almost entirely static, so it's very unlikely there's any kind of simulation for the rain. There may be some kind of "puddle map" that's been premade.
basically, That would allow the game to interpolate between dry (no map) and max wetness (100% puddle map).
Could also be another technique, but the point is, I think it's premade, not procedural or simulated.
Rdr2 does have procedural water displacement, tho. That's when you shoot in the water and the polygons move like a wave, instead of just a texture like in older/ lower budgets games. Still not simulation per say, but the visual result is quite convincing!
Just realized I'm writing fucking twelve page essays in these comments, sorry about that haha
Trying to wrap my brain around what this upcoming project could be. My mind is blown with the possibilities. Can't wait! Will be watching each development very closely!
This looks far better than any water implementation I have ever seen.
This looks amazing, some of the best water effects I have ever seen in a game. It's really starting to take shape.
I hope the game has some sort of campaign/narrative when released.
This also emphasizes the importance of turning off the tap after leaving the bathroom.
Playing a game where you get to experience the horror of what it would feel like to be in the titanic when it sank would be a great historical experience as to why it was so tragic.
That dude is chill af!
Amazing fluid simulation
That had to be the most stoic couple to have ever lived.
this is literally comparable to blender!! AWESOME
This looks so brilliant visually! Very exciting
the vortexes created by the constant directional water current in the rooms, fucking terrifying
Best I've seen...
This is awesome. Water shader looks pretty good too. Nice foam!
Nice! You can try to use a source modifier that is adding the velocity to the fluid and it will fake a leaning effect :) Can't wait to see more.
Thanks, amazing asset - I'm still learning and testing with it, having some issues as I need to tilt a whole map, that means some geometry gets blocked off, but these result already has me hooked!
Would've loved to get in contact with you for some more guidance and tips some day!
@@hermanjarl I was suspecting that tilting may be problematic which is why I think using velocity source and rotating camera instead of the ship may solve your problem.
@@ImaginaryBlend definetly something I need to try! Thanks!
Your asset is awesome
I can’t even fathom how much work this took to make
As a big Titanic fan I'm happy to see a decent game coming out. I know a lot about the Titanic so idk I can't wait good luck and take your time
That's amazing.
Esas son las físicas del agua que necesita el juego Titanic Honor and Glory. Excelente vídeo.
That is so good!
Thanks!
You're really doing an incredible job with this. Keep up the good work.
Just, wow, man!
That looks pretty damn legit man.
Titanic was the first ship to be made entirely out of swimming pool changing rooms.
Amazing. Is there any way to reduce the viscosity or it this the engine limit for processing reasons? It still looks a lot like gel in this one, albeit much much more realistic.
I think the vicosity is just fine. What is off in this scene is the lack of wetability Wan Der Waals forces, which gives the gel appearance.
It looks like its high in viscosity because there's so little detail in the water, its actual viscosity is fine. Its probably bumped down due to performance issues with high fidelity simulations
I think you guys are actually right, the flow of the water actually looks right. It’s just the lack of details in this flowing water and also the fact that it doesn’t splash while flowing around like crazy or make anything wet makes it look odd and gooey
I think its both the way water reflections look a bit rough, but also how the simulation is just a bit limited. Its like the water is spreading in "blocks", or like a tough wave like magma.
Thought the same, looked at some other water simulations in UE5 and all looks like gel
This is so cool. Great for this setting or a cave diving game. I've been seeing videos where caves get flooded
Most people don't realize that when a ship is sinking the water flows at such force it can bend metal. it's a current as its forcing its way though a limited space. so you can easily be drug under or even swept even further down in the ship. the sim looks neat as hell tho.
Nice flow Jack
The ship is flooding and joe and carol couldn't be happier about it 😂
How you managed to pull this off is beyond my comprehension. I applaud you, Herman, in all honesty! I never even manage to pull this off in Blender, and I can see a bright future for you.
Its a free plugin for unreal engine 5, you can do it.in few minutes
@@ObnovaDomu Wait, really? What's it called?
@@ObnovaDomu What the hell? No, it is not free. It's called Fluid Flux.
@@RailerTheRailwayDog Niagara Fluids
@@redyamahabassguy7537 Oh ok, i made mine with Niagara Fluids plugin.
The day we have actually realistic water physics is when I’ll be a smitten gamer.
Are you a mermaid/-man?
@@Mightymoose02 I prefer to be identified as Merthey, but yes.
if 3rd class open space was a bathroom 😂
Wondering if you know which settings should I adjust to enable water flow underneath my bridge? The debug mesh currently blocks the water at the bridge's start and end, preventing it from flowing through.
amazing!
To this day, I keep thinking “if someone knew the boat was sinking, what would they grab to keep afloat??”
What a horrendous way to go. Make the game dude. You've done the hardwork.
Looks impressed
Yoooo sick I've been waiting for someone to try and make something like this in a game ever since I've seen those blender animations that add water to games.
hi! can u share the link for blender examples?
new ff7 (or upcoming) has this kind of scenes
The difference in water level due to strength/direction of flow (that contributes to the vortex?) is noiice
ANK YOU A LOT!!!
Add sound and particles and this will be absolutely terrifying
An Unreal simulation of an unreal event.
OMG, this is scary! I want to experience something similar in VR!
Great
wow very impressive want games with that
This could be a good game on equity, Random starting passenger, rich or poor, who has the most chance of surviving, the path out with each of the 2,240 possible starting passenger/crew would be a whole different story.
yeah the random/realtime-ness still remain to be seen, like how physic acts in different position/situation
Bro please do this on fluid flux 2.0
It still looks more like Gel than water, but if this is real time renderable in a fricking video game on current hardware then I'm all for it.
Dude didn't even try to save himself 🤣
i honestly felt pure fear when waching this thinking how bad it would be to be stuck like this with water filling up!
"Man fills boat with thick Goo."
How expensive is this water, is 60fps easily achievable in a detailed environment?
Yashh love it
it is necessary to slightly lower the viscosity... Please tell me, are you working on Honor and Glory project?
I'll look into it!
No, this is my own Titanic project
Reminds me of Zero escape: 999
Also set on the titanic, A room escape puzzle game where you have to escape the rising water would be sick.
THIS IS REAL TIME HOLY
Do we get a tutorial on this. Be great to see how its set up ;)
Will we get a slow Real Life flooding of this area? to see how the system operates then
UE5 has water simulation? Cool.
cool
there are some spots that looks a bit awkward, but holy crap overall it looks amazing
Oh wow. Can you post link to the project or product page?? I want to keep an eye on the development!
Dont have one yet, though I often post pics and updates on my instagram @hermanjarl
I'll look into getting a product page!
George floyd, I can't breathe.
WoW 😮
This is impressive and all but actually really unnerving.
Nice, but this just shows how far we are from really realistic water and its flow.
Dude! your always a head of me :P
I just now taught about fluid flux as a awesome simulation to use on the titanic project.
All i think it needs is some preset standards for how the water flows to small cracks of doors based on the pressure in the filling room.
And i guess there was airvents that did NOT seal water out pretty well. This also needs to be kind of pre simulated by settings placed on those areas affected.
I see that Fluid Flux perhaps need some visible settings for the amount of "vertex points" (If that is what would be the right term for the "mesh" simulated in real time.
It looks to create some very hard 70-90 degree slopes instead of flow smooth and build up. Look from @0:16 to @0:25 and you see what i mean
I need to get my hads on that project, and buy Fluid Flux 😍😍
noice
Still not getting it right. It seems to have too much structural coherence to the body of water. As evidenced by the 'block' of water seen moving through the corridor and settling in a square like fashion in areas with very small amounts of water
nice.
What about the water crashing against the wall.. With that kind of force it splashes upwards violently and froth's a lot.. And the bulge looks too static.. Can you make it do a whole bunch of random settings to make it look more real? Wonder if you can make it so the weight of the water will burst through walls? Give the wall a setting and set up some random animations or something so it doesn't break down or get through the same way each time..
Hey how is this water colliding with the walls ? Can someone tell me please ?
Lobsters in the kitchen are happy
Physics look good, but the water needs a bit more spray and splashing. Water moving that fast splashes when it hits the wall. This all stays together and looks more like loose jello.
Agree
ive seen better from ue demos, i no worry
Now paint the walls black so it looks like a submarine the real horror begins
This is Gorgeous
U should join the thg team pls
Cool! Now you should work on refraction. You could be the first who makes it. 😏 It's easy, at least mathematically.
This is state of the art? Why? Because it uses RTX? I’m sure we could’ve made something like this years ago. Water physics have been a thing since like 2013!
Because this is real time.
Show me a game from the 2013 era that can simulate currents, collision and vortexes in water - without it being cache-baked and covered with particle systems.
I never claimed this was state of the art and its not perfect, but the developer has done an incredible job - and for game and real-time technology this is a giant leap.
I hope the Ps5 and the Xbox Series consoles have the necessary processing power for simulation for things like physics simulations or maybe mass crowd AI. I don't want new games to simply be prettier, I also want them to be more interactive. Immersion arises when all the pieces fall into place.
This must be on one of these quantum computer's
Did they survive?
I thought most ships had sealed rooms to prevent the spread of water
not perfect (many glitches, not gravity and fluid as real, etc), but it looks really cool and maybe best in-game water simulation yet.
I feel bad for the human model in the room. What a nightmare he has to live!
NICE WORK DID YOU SUCCESSFUL PACK THE GAME WITH THE PLUGIN?
Can you test vs car with this flooding simulation?
К сожалению у меня не получилось запустить на моём ноутбуке Fluid Flux для Unreal Ungine 4 :(
amazing, interesting, how much resources eat this simulation and can it run consoles?
I doubt it’s true but I feel like red dead redemption 2 uses these water physics, except they just don’t demonstrate the actual use of the movement.
what are your specs and fps on this test?
3070, this is 60 fps.
But, extremely well optimized so "regular" specs would have no problem in this scene.
I love your work!
Would it be okay if I upload a video to my channel?
I want the scene with the blood from the shining :P
If I had seen this game , I would have said : shut up and take my money 💲