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Thanks for posting this video on my birthday! After your venom video can you start with where to start ant man and the wasp video? Those 2 are the next marvel characters I’m curious about looking into
I'll give Bendis run one thing: He was the only writer that mentioned how stupid it was to blame Cyclops for Xavier's death during AvX. That part where he flat-out says it's Stark's was right on the money over that.
Not really Tony's fault. Not really Cyke's fault either, but Tony also isn't to blame because of the butterfly effect that stemmed from him accidentally splitting the Phoenix.
@@selinawalsh9075 The X-Men warned Tony to leave them alone to deal with the Phoenix. Tony insisted on intervening. His stupidity led to the Phoenix splitting into five and entering unprepared people's bodies. The X-Men then used their new powers to end hunger, stop wars and create a better world. The Avengers decided this was a bad thing and attacked them. Because of this, the Phoenix went dark as it tends to do and that caused Cyclops to kill Xavier. Yeah... this was all Tony's fault.
@@santiagoporroprofe2745 That's still a butterfly effect and doesn't directly tie Tony to Xavier's death. Just bad writing all around for all the characters involved.
@@HELLO_KORO I actually liked Decimation a LOT for thinning the ranks of mutants, there was some really good character work with some of the characters who lost their powers and it made the then running New Xmen Academy X take some interesting turns as well (underrated series in my opinion)
I want to say it's actually One More Day or Civil War, but I I guess it's fair to say those were merely the first symptoms and AvX is the full blown illness
Reading this run is a religious experience. This is the first Comicbook run I’ve ever read where I lost faith in one of my favorite writers and damn near wanted to burn every issue I read or heard of.
@@MaddoggComics Bro it’s so bad that I can’t even defend Bendis on any of his runs because this run shows how lazy Bendis really is when he writers stories
It was a massive bummer to say the least, especially after what Tomasi and Gleason did on Superman. Bendis was my #1 guys for the 00s between USM, DD, Powers, and NA. There were warning signs with books like Brilliant, Moon Knight, and those dumb Castle comics. But X-Men was the beginning of the end.
Will never top clearly stating "going back creates a different timeline we don't leave we're stuck" to add stakes and then ending with a old man cap who supposedly went back to the 40s or 50s and just waited. Truly one of the movie moments of all time
@@joe5413 I think the implication was that it only makes an alternate timeline if you actually change something, since the Avengers returned all the stones and Cap didn't interfere with history, no new timelines were made except the one where Loki escaped.
It could be argued that a) this is bendis doing what he does well, deceive/ crime stuff and b) this is early/ not yet crap Bendis. I agree though, liked his Daredevil is good fun.
I’ve never understood why they made young Bobby gay vs You laser Bobby. The conversation that could be had about sexual fluidity could have been interesting.
The Bendis run: Where every single X-Man made the worst decisions for the sake of melodrama. You can't even take sides here because everyone is acting like a teenage victim in a slasher movie or a character in a Michael Bay movie. Irredeemable a-holes and idiots for a far as the eyes can see. Bendis used to write better scripts. This was where he seemingly gave up and pumped out first drafts for paychecks. Bendis writing Jean Grey mind raping her team mates is something that would make the Hellfire Club envious. She psychically converted Iceman's sexuality and mind wiped Angel.
@@DunYappin I remember they got a divorce because Storm punched Black Panther in the face. What the hell was that? I mean, if you're gonna go for Jerry Springer, then have Black Panther slap the soul outta her in return and all the Avengers shout "oh!"
@@ScuffedF Avengers vs X-Men. Storm sided with the X-Men. Punched her husband in the face. Black Panther sent her a letter decreeing the marriage annulled.
It doesn’t sound like Bendis gave people nothing they wanted, but gave them too much of anything and couldn’t keep it all organized. Even if most of the ideas would have been great on their own, there is absolutely such a thing as too much of a good thing
I was never a fan of bendis x-men run it was so bad and frankly such a mess of a storyline that made no sense whatsoever in my opinion, and just proves my point more and more that Bendis really should’ve just focus on ultimate Spider-Man and not write x-men or any main stream marvel characters in my opinion. Also the second he got to dc he also ruined my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and instead of undoing the damage he just left with my boy Jon Kent superboy and nobody wants to undo that mess in my opinion.
@@jerfuhrer2581 please there’s always way to kill two birds with one stone with this awful change, and what’s that you are basically asking short version have this Jon Kent be a fake, while the real Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self be saved by his family and boom problem solved everybody wins.
The title makes it seem like a rant, but damn this video actually sold me on. I want to read the Bendis X-Men now...great work Marcus.amazing video. Edit: Wow, Beast is a creep. Edit 2: Holy shit you actually said Hawk Tuah?
I feel like Bendis’s run got worse over time due to how he most likely wrote it knowing that Jonathan Hickman was culminating everything into Secret Wars (2015) and at the time he was conceiving this, Marvel Editorial (Axel Alonso & Tom Brevoort) was seriously entertaining the notion that they were going to do a full-on Reboot of Marvel Comics continuity AFTER Secret Wars wrapped up. Then it didn’t happen and Bendis, and by extension Marvel, were stuck with the controversial changes (Iceman) and baffling story decisions (O5 X-Men in the then-Present Day) made during this specific run. This is probably why they eventually allowed Hickman to write the X-Men nearly half a decade later…to make sense of a lot of the changes made by Bendis, Lemire, Ike Perlmutter’s insistence on replacing the X-Men w/ Inhumans, etc. It was incredible to see how Hickman took a joke character like Goldballs and made him one of the most important Mutants in existence in one page amongst other things…and it probably wouldn’t have been possible had huge mistakes like Bendis’s X-Men Run never happened 🤷🏽♂️
Kitty Pride was in space during this story. 55:32 Since Bendis also wrote Guardians of the Galaxy run, and in his run Kitty and Starlord were dating. Not to mention there was a Trial of young Jean Grey about Phoenix force.
I hated his Guardians of the Galaxy run as well, especially coming off the Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning era. That's why I never liked the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, because they're based on Bendis' run.
@@megamanxhunterThe movies never used Bendis' material though. Guardians 1 primarily takes stuff from Abnett and Lanning's series with sprinkles of Annihilation and Annihilation Conquest. (Specifically Star Lord's story of forming the Guardians) The Bendis run was made as promotional material for this movie, so during production the creative team referred to Abnett and Lanning with Keith Giffen's stuff. In fact it was originally pitched as an Annihilation movie. Guardians 3 also takes stuff from the previously mentioned stories as well as Jim Starlin's Adam Warlock and Bill Mantlo's Rocket Raccoon. The only one close to Bendis is Guardians 2 but even then it doesn't pull much from the comics aside from Mantis, Ego, and Peter's relationship with his father.
Hot damn, Marcus! Nobody is doing this long form content anywhere near as good as you. Can't believe the effort that's gone into this I'm sure. Absolutely amazing work, and I can't wait to see what your next one is. Keep up the great work, mate!
All-New X-Men #1 was my first ever proper X-Men comic after AvX. While I eventually dropped the run and I fully understand how bad it is, I have a soft spot for it due to the memories it brings me.
Something that drives me insane about this story, or time-travel stories in the Marvel/DC Universes in general, is that it highlights how broken "time" is in these comics. How old is Scott? What year did his past self come from? What year was he born? Marvel can't really answer ANY of these questions, and it makes it all very difficult to digest for me. If he was 16 in 1963 when X-Men #1 came out, then he was born in 1947, so in 2024 he'd be 77. How do I work with this? What kind of culture did he grow up with? What movies did he love as a child? What music was he into in his 20's? These would be important facts to know if you wanted to understand my character, and those facts are kind of impossible to explore in modern Big-2 comics. Personally, I will always think MARVEL is a weaker product than we would've gotten if Marvel had acted as a traditional publisher and allowed storytellers to own their creations rather than operating within a shared publisher's universe, but that's such an alternate reality that it's hard to sell to folks in this one.
To be a Marvel fan you ether accept the Sliding timescale or you don't. Founding of the X-men is now in the 00's instead of the 60's. Tony fought in Iraq not Vietnam and so forth.
I know the xmen by popculture osmosis, watched a good few of the films but not all, but always been passively interested. Now a 2 hour video pops up while Ive got soem tedium at work to get through, I feel like Im gonna learn alot today
Bendis run was terrible, everything he did to Iceman was AWFUL. The time travel of the young OG team was stupid, the Ape Beast third mutation was bad and all anyone wanted was him back in OG form instead of the cat look (Only John Cassaday ever made cat beast look good). Cyke going full supervillain and all of the stupid Xmen/Inhumans stuff is stupid. It feels more like X-Men than Hickmans absolute garbage hippy racism island bullshit but it was not a good run. Bendis run was way too obsessed with time travel shenanigans too, not only the young ones but that battle of the atom future bad guys too.
As someone who only reads through X-men sparsingly for Nightcrawler and Cyclops I LOVED this story Seeing cyclops actually form his own ideals on how his people should be treated after being “Xavier’s boyscout” so long was really nice
I don’t have time to watch this right now, but I can’t wait. I love Bendis’ X-Men. At least the first several volumes of each book. It kinda fizzles out, but the early stuff is so good I don’t even care.
“X-men fans don’t know what they want, they just know, ‘don’t do that,’” first of all, incredibly patronizing. And second of all, if they know what they don’t want, then that’s a sign they know what they want. Like, if you genuinely believe that there’s nothing noteworthy in their criticism and thoughts, you’ve failed as a creator. You are not infallible, and the fact that there are so many complaints and comments about these issues is a great example of that. Like, nobody reading Spiderman wanted MJ to be kidnapped by a mad scientist, get Stockholm syndrome, have his kids, and then treat Peter like he’s the weird one for not being comfortable with this situation. You’re not recreating Secret Wars or Civil War, you’re taking a well developed relationship with beloved characters and actively dedicating on it. If a single Spiderman fan was consulted on this issue, they would have said don’t do it. Because, as he so “eloquently“ put it, they know what they don’t want.
Bendis’ X-Men was my first X-Men, and the All-New team will always have a place in my heart. I related heavily, and in some ways still do, to Cyclops’ breakdown over the course of the series, and it meant a lot to me. But I definitely felt the pieces falling apart in the end. I still think something happened behind the scenes during the Last Will of Xavier arc that made it drag longer, hence the covers and weird stalling for most of the story. But I liked this era and I miss it. So thanks for reminding me of it.
Illyana is my favorite character, it is not hard forme to defend his run because he was the last person to actually remember her abilities and move her story forwards. After we left we had writers misuse her severely. While it isn't that bad anymore, the last person to do progression with her was Bendis. Everyone else is redoing old Limbo stories. Did I just invalidate the entire reason for this video to exist?
I’m not going to say Bendis is a favorite writer of mine, but I absolutely loved his uncanny and all new X-men runs. I liked the harsher methods that this X-men team took. The ends justified the means at this point. I also liked seeing the younger X-men stuck in the future. Seeing their reaction to how far they had fallen and the things they did in the future was cool to see. I just hate how they had to go back to their own timeline. I swear at some point, it was established that these past X-men were locked out of their own time because it was an alternate universe or something like that.
"A white guy screaming at a marginalized community is a line that I really don't want to cross" That was a fantastic example of lightly delivered humor with a dark core. You get a like for that. Also, boy... as a minority who grew up loving the X-Men, there is a LOT of the time where writers like to make them knee-jerk reactive "everyone is a threat to me so I'll be aggressive first!" assholes and it really kinda... feels gross and bad. Though honestly when it's just the extremist mutants and not the X-men themselves, then it feels grounded instead, since that whole mindset is what MAKES them act the way they do. And a good example of how victim mentality can loop around to justifying abusive behavior. Also if that is a category, it's criminally under-populated by Penelope Hornwright. Because she is legitimately pretty despite being a Ghoul.
Now do one for the Avengers. People will study how much he misunderstood what Sentry appeal was and the character is still recovering with a strange fanbase all thanks to his complete fumble of it.
I just wish he started a new title starring Tempus, Triage, Morph, Goldballs, and Hijack trying to survive on their own in a post AvX world. Let him play with his own toys and keep him away from the big players
Am I not alone with how badly the out of nowhere Changing of Iceman's Sexuality is? It just feels like it was made for Brownie points with the Community. It's the same exact reason why the changing of Aqualad to be Bisexual in Young Justice seasons 3/4 never sat right with me because I remember being a fan of this character when he was the most unknown and sole black member of the team and now he's just presented as being Bisexual yet that means he's only ever seen with dudes despite being introduced having a female love interest and theyve absolutely refused to develop his potential as the successor to Aquaman or even his abilities as a leader of young Justice before Nightwing took Over
The Aqualad thing is because DC has a huge issue with homosexuality presented as a good thing entirely, because of how old it is as company. Their most famous coupling is Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, neither of which are characters that historically would be the poster for that in DC if treated them well. Which leads to the implication that those two being essentially villains gave them an out to not tolerate it. Which in turn in my view sabotages Harley Quinn's position as the Fourth Pillar of DC exploring mental health through a character. The original Batwoman was perfect to explore Lesbian relationships as a woman wanting to live a normal life with another woman. The Alan Scott Green Lantern is the biggest display of that problem with male homosexuality, because his entire existence has had that as a part of his character, that writers and editorial flatly refused to explore in a heroic framing, until New 52 Earth 2. Having Midnighter and Apollo gives them a way to actually properly explore it, but they will not because Midnighter is gay Batman and Apollo is gay Superman. That they will not forgive, so will not focus on books for them, except as the occasional run to show they have them, and ensure they do not go somewhere else, where someone would gallop off with them. Midnighter himself is in an even more precarious place, because his bigger aspect in his powers are better explored in Valiant's Ninjak, even though Midnighter came before Ninjak.
It made for some good moments but it came across as a little performative and forced. It's much better to create new gay characters instead of retconning old ones.
I always felt like the iceman situation was a personal beef & one-upsmanship between him and Jason aron when Jason was the head writer of xmen because prior to that iceman was dating kitty and when Jason left, he broke them up and made iceman gay
Bendis gives zero fucks about reading or researching for established characters. He does best when he has no cannon to follow. His Spider-Man series is widely popular because he riffs and adapts all the greatest Spider-Man stories ever made.
Dude BMB has talent. Alias was great, ultimate spiderman was great, and his Daredevil run was one of the best comic runs i ever read. But now that we have 20+ years of a comic resume, i think we can say his great writing is the exception to an average/bad writing career.
38:20 yeah that part was retcon in Children´s Crusade putting the blame of Wanda´s action during Dissasembled and House of M with her being manipulated by Doctor Doom, and at that point all the Avengers that died during Dissasembled were alive again so I guess everybody thinks she is no longer guilty of anything.
There will always be a thousand different opinions in large fandoms. Any good writer will be able to sift through that and get what will makes sense for the story. They can add things that fans will like without alienating everyone. A bad writer insults the fans then makes a terrible story and blames fans for not enjoying the crap.
So I know you said that you are not a big X-Men fan, so it's understandable but I had to scratch my head at you calling Dazzler a lesser known/joke character. In terms of familiarity and popularity in the fandom Dazzler ranks pretty high up there, that's*despite* her not having a lot of recent appearances in comics and on screen adaptions. It was basically just bandis pulling out a character that a lot of people wanted to see again. . . And then doing nothing with it.
It was a fantastic video. Honestly, the fact that nobody talks about it is what made your vid all the more special. I read it a few years back, and was really disappointed by it. I mostly liked the art and redesigns, but the story really was pointless, I didn't feel like it had a single great memorable story. It was vindicating hearing another persons perspective on it, even if it was a bit different from my own, at least I finally got something out of having read it 😅
@joshsmith9572 It's absolutely awesome that you enjoyed it. I just couldn't get behind his writing, paired with the art style (forgive me, I forgot their name). It's worse with The Boys, but it's the beginning here. Dude can't help his selective hate boner for superheroes while making a superhero comic.
I like bendis BUT I hate when he doesn't take in consideration of the overall canon in the marvel comic universe at the time of writing book....what carried these books is the art of bachalo and immonen
after the 2000s i could only dip my toe back into the X-Men every once in a while to see if i would like anything i see, never did. thank the x gene for X-Men 97.
Man, i dont think i read enough of this series to get to Emma but why did they make her look so much like Magik? Especially when Magik is a character in these books.
What I loved about Bendis's X-Men Was that Everyone during this time was trying to make Cyclops this huge villain whilst Bendis was like "No! I'm not doing that". I swear some people had more sympathy for Magneto then Cyclops. It was bi-polar as fuck. Everyone was saying he was doing all this horrible stuff meanwhile he's just doing what the X-men have always done, rescue mutants and teach them how to defend themselves. Reminded me of the old X-Factor days mixed with Cable's X-Force. Fuck RrrrrHate! Also Do you know how many times Xavier has faked his death? Scott thinking Xavier was not dead is not out of the realm of possibility.
I’ll be that guy, I genuinely enjoyed this series. Is it definitive? No. Is it the best series of all time? Probably not. But I had fun reading the series and found the work to be interesting and reflective of the time it came out.
39:34 Reporter: "Well... if you don't want to be called "mutant," what should we call you?" Havik: "How about Alex?" That was such a stupidly simple line, and yet at the same time, it was powerful. I have to admit, Bendis has his moments.
Magneto was below cyclops on the pecking order for a while before this story happened. After schism, magneto ends up with cyclops' squad and remains there through avengers vs x men. It would've been weirder for half the x men to follow cyclops during and after the schism just to turn and follow magneto instead immediately after.
While it has some issues I have some fond memories from this era starting with AVX and then onto Bendis run. I like the ideas Bendis Brought forward eg the 5 OG into the present, the whole Black Vortex and Scott actually became evil . It showed a different side to a character I've personally always liked. Even with the controversy, I still like Bendis, Although it isn't no Ultimate Spider-Man..😄 I did fall out of finishing the run. So cannot say for sure this'll still be my opinion if I did finish. Which going by these comments. Might've been a good thing.😂
Haha well hopefully the video clued you in on what you missed :) I agree with there being some good moments, but we may have to agree to disagree when it comes to Black Vortex 😅 hope you enjoyed the video mate!
10:45 What do you mean "You can't say a comic from the 60's hasn't aged that well? In the original X-Men, Professor X was a creepy, old PDF file that was horny for an underage Jean Gray while also making fun of disabled people because Xavier wouldn't pursue her because of his inability to walk. Also, why the praise for Bendis and Ultimate Spiderman? Wolverine was a A-hole to women who tries to sleep with underage girls multiple times and Bendis had Logan try to sleep with MJ while in Peter Parker's body. And don't get me started on the whole Wanda and Pietro incestuous relationship. Bendis is a sicko.
The one thing that this run had was terrorist Cyclops, that was a really cool direction to take his character it's just a shame it fell apart the way it did.
Bendis run made me quit reading x-men all together. I know Krakoa is a masterpiece. But it’s really hard to get back on the horse after that crap shoot of a run
Not a fan of Bendis run on X-men at all. He either didn't understand the characters or didn't give a shit. That said, great video bro💪🏻 You should do more of these in-depth videos on other writers X-men runs. I'll watch every one of them💯
@DunYappin The issue isn't that there needs to be a reason he wasn't gay to begin with and they made him that way and that's all his stories are about now. You wouldn't be upset if they took a gay, pan, tran character and made them straight.
Dude was always gay coded. Sure he tried to get with woman like Opal Tanaka but it never stuck. Dude friendzoned Rogue when she was on the rebound. C'mon!
My opinion of Bendis is a bit strange cause I like him for the Ult spider man run, Miles, Moongirl and that's it otherwise I don't have much care for him, he remind me of Joss Whedon
At least we got X-men gold out of all this if I remember correctly, so that’s nice where more or less most of the stuff here never is mentioned at all which is just sad, especially when they do mind wipe the 60s X-men crew before sending them home making everything relating to them being pointless
There is one defense to it and that’s everything that came after it with the exception of HoxPox & what else Hickman wrote for X-men sucked worse than Bendis’ era
Hox/Pox was a fun refresh for the X-Men status quo. Shame we're going back to standard X-Men adventures more like the Claremont era because of streaming service synergy and the popularity of X-Men 97.
@rachetmarvel931 Krakoa saved and redeemed Xbooks for the majority of Xfans) I've been collecting since Claremont. The sales don't lie, but I respect the reality that opinions have a wide margin for individual taste. Anyway, may I ask what you hated about Hickman? And what then do you consider good X stories?
It’s typical of writers who are less interested in good storytelling and more about being ‘cool’ and ‘fresh’ - when they come in they are both…then after a while it is apparent they only have one trick and they beat it to death and become stale. Like mark millar. I have a lot of time for Bendis on DD but I hated his avengers stuff which for me marked the decline of my interest in marvel comics. It was so desperate and short sighted cramming in characters like Wolverine and spider man but my biggest issue was the dialogue. Every character was written with the same voice. They all just sounds like wise cracking spider man. And for some reason Bendis was given key to the kingdom and he too much creative input on marvel. I also thought it telling how annoyed he was that civil war (a great event with an actual philosophical debate) got in the way of his secret invasion and siege the two most disappointing and underwhelming events up to that time (maybe onslaught also)
I hated when mccoy twitter time and injected the old with the new, not fucking everything at all. I mean, the past being in the now should keep the timeline in constant shift as the young constantly learning from the future AND not doing AND doing so much that the whole dinosaur with buttlerfly wingseffect should change just about everything. And for the worse, as lots of old shit they have been through, they got through from people dying or by the skin of their teeth. Fuck.
This was a perfect dumpster fire blend of garbage and trash. Not the video, the Bendis run. I haven't even finished the video yet, good so far tho. Marvel was fully in its "Let's downplay (ruin) all characters for who we don't own all media and merchandising rights!" mode. And Bendis was is his "I'm mad I'm missing out on the big pay day with the Super popular character I created becoming a multimedia phenomenon, like other superstar talent" phase. This era of X-Men showed how much Marvel didn't care about the fans or the characters. And it exposed Bendis for his limited talent and skill at aping better writers style, Giffen and DeMatteis mostly for the dialogue, and Moore, Wolfman, Englehart and other DC writers for story. This run is basically Claremont's Days of Future Past drawn out in the most Dan Jurgens way, with Giffen's pithy banter. He's a well-liked hack writer but the well of remixed ideas of others had run dry and it was proven when he went to DC and crapped the bed and changed and ruined so much DC just ignores it happened except for the aging up of Jon Kent which can't be credibly retconned or brushed away. All titles and new characters created by Bendis have been regulated to the trashpin of comic limbo...where they belong
"X-Men fans never like any change", what? Talk to any X-Men fan community and you'll find most people love the post mutant massacre/outback era which is one of the biggest status quo changes in the history of the book
My brother used to pick iceman on so many games when we where young. When iceman came out gay. Brother wont even give a glance after that. never heard of him mention iceman ever since .
I'm going to be clear on this. Bendis's run on X-Men is a great run but it had some flaws and some great things. His biggest flaw was bringing the original X-Men to the present which brought issues for comic readers. Not to mention the love triangle of Jean, Hank, and Scott. The best parts about this run, is how it crosses over with Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers, Original Sin, and how Charles kept a secret from the X-Men of why Matthew Malloy is a powerful mutant. Battle of the Atom and the trial of Jean Grey are great story arcs in Bendis's run. Inhumanity, however is tempting. What I'm puzzled about is if it's possible for Matthew Malloy to return after the events of Secret Wars 2015 as a reincarnation.
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Thanks for posting this video on my birthday! After your venom video can you start with where to start ant man and the wasp video? Those 2 are the next marvel characters I’m curious about looking into
@@willsherman4044 Happy Birthday mate! I've got them on the list, so can hopefully get round to doing them soon :)
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Thanks Marcus. Cracking video, mate. You done yourself proud with this one.
@@coyley72 Thank you mate, it was a while in the making, so I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
I'll give Bendis run one thing: He was the only writer that mentioned how stupid it was to blame Cyclops for Xavier's death during AvX. That part where he flat-out says it's Stark's was right on the money over that.
Not really Tony's fault. Not really Cyke's fault either, but Tony also isn't to blame because of the butterfly effect that stemmed from him accidentally splitting the Phoenix.
@@selinawalsh9075 The X-Men warned Tony to leave them alone to deal with the Phoenix. Tony insisted on intervening. His stupidity led to the Phoenix splitting into five and entering unprepared people's bodies. The X-Men then used their new powers to end hunger, stop wars and create a better world. The Avengers decided this was a bad thing and attacked them. Because of this, the Phoenix went dark as it tends to do and that caused Cyclops to kill Xavier. Yeah... this was all Tony's fault.
@@santiagoporroprofe2745 That's still a butterfly effect and doesn't directly tie Tony to Xavier's death. Just bad writing all around for all the characters involved.
@@selinawalsh9075 It's not really a butterfly effect when his decisions directly led to the result
AvX is probably what SECRET WARS will be about: the last 2 remaining timelines 😀
Avengers vs X-Men is honestly THE event that began the decline of Marvel’s ability to progress the characters.
More like House of M/Decimation somany characters with ongoing books got canned in that era
@@HELLO_KORO touché
@@HELLO_KORO I actually liked Decimation a LOT for thinning the ranks of mutants, there was some really good character work with some of the characters who lost their powers and it made the then running New Xmen Academy X take some interesting turns as well (underrated series in my opinion)
I want to say it's actually One More Day or Civil War, but I I guess it's fair to say those were merely the first symptoms and AvX is the full blown illness
What they lost me with was the ending of Civil War. I still want to see that trial, dammit. I dropped every marvel book except F4 on the spot.
Reading this run is a religious experience. This is the first Comicbook run I’ve ever read where I lost faith in one of my favorite writers and damn near wanted to burn every issue I read or heard of.
😂 damn that bad huh?
Not at all. They're being incredibly dramatic. @@stephenthedude4383
Steady on, sir. Those guys at comicpop have thoroughly prayed for that
There was definitely what felt like some eternal suffering in this run somewhere 😅 hope you enjoyed the video!
@@MaddoggComics Bro it’s so bad that I can’t even defend Bendis on any of his runs because this run shows how lazy Bendis really is when he writers stories
And just wait until you read his abismal run on Superman. He managed to sink that book line to an historical 75% drop in sales.
Oh man it was utterly INSANE wasn't he (Bendis) the one who decided to kill nightwing with a stick
@@savlosavageNo, that was Injustice and that was Elseworld, and was written by Tom Taylor
@@savlosavageIt was an elseworlds story Injustice thankfully no
@StoicScarf oh okay ok
It was a massive bummer to say the least, especially after what Tomasi and Gleason did on Superman. Bendis was my #1 guys for the 00s between USM, DD, Powers, and NA. There were warning signs with books like Brilliant, Moon Knight, and those dumb Castle comics. But X-Men was the beginning of the end.
It's honestly admirable how you try to squeeze meaning out of Bendis's random choices like picking Dark Beast as a villain.
To be fair, most people who decide to play with time travel don’t tend to think it out, the MCinematicU certainly didn’t.
Those screenwriters are utterly clueless
Will never top clearly stating "going back creates a different timeline we don't leave we're stuck" to add stakes and then ending with a old man cap who supposedly went back to the 40s or 50s and just waited. Truly one of the movie moments of all time
Meh
@@joe5413 I think the implication was that it only makes an alternate timeline if you actually change something, since the Avengers returned all the stones and Cap didn't interfere with history, no new timelines were made except the one where Loki escaped.
@@saucevc8353 Him just being there changes something. There wasn't a Captain America in that time, then there was. That's a change.
I liked him on the Daredevil run. That's it. What him and Quesada did to the X-Men was a crime.
Everything Quesada does is a crime
It could be argued that a) this is bendis doing what he does well, deceive/ crime stuff and b) this is early/ not yet crap Bendis. I agree though, liked his Daredevil is good fun.
I think it might be time for lunch, because my eyes absolutely refused to focus and I kept reading and rereading that as "Quesadilla".
Bendis' run was beyond frustrating. The dialogues of the young X-Men were cringy. And he also did Iceman dirty.
I still think the Hank/Jean thing was worse than the Bobby stuff, but I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@MaddoggComics great video. contoured how deranged it was
I’ve never understood why they made young Bobby gay vs You laser Bobby. The conversation that could be had about sexual fluidity could have been interesting.
The Bendis run: Where every single X-Man made the worst decisions for the sake of melodrama. You can't even take sides here because everyone is acting like a teenage victim in a slasher movie or a character in a Michael Bay movie. Irredeemable a-holes and idiots for a far as the eyes can see.
Bendis used to write better scripts. This was where he seemingly gave up and pumped out first drafts for paychecks.
Bendis writing Jean Grey mind raping her team mates is something that would make the Hellfire Club envious. She psychically converted Iceman's sexuality and mind wiped Angel.
I mean they had Black Panther annul his marriage to Storm irrationally so idk it was all pretty schlocky
@@DunYappin I remember they got a divorce because Storm punched Black Panther in the face.
What the hell was that? I mean, if you're gonna go for Jerry Springer, then have Black Panther slap the soul outta her in return and all the Avengers shout "oh!"
@@ryanmcamis7419 Lol, shit had me gutted. Felt spiteful IMO.
She what now?
@@ScuffedF Avengers vs X-Men. Storm sided with the X-Men. Punched her husband in the face. Black Panther sent her a letter decreeing the marriage annulled.
It doesn’t sound like Bendis gave people nothing they wanted, but gave them too much of anything and couldn’t keep it all organized. Even if most of the ideas would have been great on their own, there is absolutely such a thing as too much of a good thing
"This ending wasn't so great, but hey. At least we have Hickman on X-Men. That'll wrap up way better."
I miss the person I was before I said that...
I was never a fan of bendis x-men run it was so bad and frankly such a mess of a storyline that made no sense whatsoever in my opinion, and just proves my point more and more that Bendis really should’ve just focus on ultimate Spider-Man and not write x-men or any main stream marvel characters in my opinion. Also the second he got to dc he also ruined my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and instead of undoing the damage he just left with my boy Jon Kent superboy and nobody wants to undo that mess in my opinion.
@@jerfuhrer2581 please there’s always way to kill two birds with one stone with this awful change, and what’s that you are basically asking short version have this Jon Kent be a fake, while the real Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self be saved by his family and boom problem solved everybody wins.
The one positive thing about Brian Michael Bendis’s X Men is it makes Chuck Austin’s run on X Men look good
Let's not go that far
Oh, it's not that bad. Bendis' run actually has good moments despite the rough edges.
The title makes it seem like a rant, but damn this video actually sold me on. I want to read the Bendis X-Men now...great work Marcus.amazing video.
Edit: Wow, Beast is a creep.
Edit 2: Holy shit you actually said Hawk Tuah?
I feel like Bendis’s run got worse over time due to how he most likely wrote it knowing that Jonathan Hickman was culminating everything into Secret Wars (2015) and at the time he was conceiving this, Marvel Editorial (Axel Alonso & Tom Brevoort) was seriously entertaining the notion that they were going to do a full-on Reboot of Marvel Comics continuity AFTER Secret Wars wrapped up.
Then it didn’t happen and Bendis, and by extension Marvel, were stuck with the controversial changes (Iceman) and baffling story decisions (O5 X-Men in the then-Present Day) made during this specific run. This is probably why they eventually allowed Hickman to write the X-Men nearly half a decade later…to make sense of a lot of the changes made by Bendis, Lemire, Ike Perlmutter’s insistence on replacing the X-Men w/ Inhumans, etc.
It was incredible to see how Hickman took a joke character like Goldballs and made him one of the most important Mutants in existence in one page amongst other things…and it probably wouldn’t have been possible had huge mistakes like Bendis’s X-Men Run never happened 🤷🏽♂️
Kitty Pride was in space during this story. 55:32 Since Bendis also wrote Guardians of the Galaxy run, and in his run Kitty and Starlord were dating. Not to mention there was a Trial of young Jean Grey about Phoenix force.
I hated his Guardians of the Galaxy run as well, especially coming off the Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning era. That's why I never liked the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, because they're based on Bendis' run.
@@megamanxhunterThe movies never used Bendis' material though.
Guardians 1 primarily takes stuff from Abnett and Lanning's series with sprinkles of Annihilation and Annihilation Conquest. (Specifically Star Lord's story of forming the Guardians) The Bendis run was made as promotional material for this movie, so during production the creative team referred to Abnett and Lanning with Keith Giffen's stuff. In fact it was originally pitched as an Annihilation movie.
Guardians 3 also takes stuff from the previously mentioned stories as well as Jim Starlin's Adam Warlock and Bill Mantlo's Rocket Raccoon.
The only one close to Bendis is Guardians 2 but even then it doesn't pull much from the comics aside from Mantis, Ego, and Peter's relationship with his father.
As a Superman fan I hope bendis never type another script again
Hot damn, Marcus! Nobody is doing this long form content anywhere near as good as you. Can't believe the effort that's gone into this I'm sure. Absolutely amazing work, and I can't wait to see what your next one is. Keep up the great work, mate!
All-New X-Men #1 was my first ever proper X-Men comic after AvX. While I eventually dropped the run and I fully understand how bad it is, I have a soft spot for it due to the memories it brings me.
NOW THIS IS CONTENT. Hope this breaks through the algorithm, fantastic video mate.
Something that drives me insane about this story, or time-travel stories in the Marvel/DC Universes in general, is that it highlights how broken "time" is in these comics. How old is Scott? What year did his past self come from? What year was he born? Marvel can't really answer ANY of these questions, and it makes it all very difficult to digest for me.
If he was 16 in 1963 when X-Men #1 came out, then he was born in 1947, so in 2024 he'd be 77. How do I work with this? What kind of culture did he grow up with? What movies did he love as a child? What music was he into in his 20's? These would be important facts to know if you wanted to understand my character, and those facts are kind of impossible to explore in modern Big-2 comics.
Personally, I will always think MARVEL is a weaker product than we would've gotten if Marvel had acted as a traditional publisher and allowed storytellers to own their creations rather than operating within a shared publisher's universe, but that's such an alternate reality that it's hard to sell to folks in this one.
To be a Marvel fan you ether accept the Sliding timescale or you don't. Founding of the X-men is now in the 00's instead of the 60's. Tony fought in Iraq not Vietnam and so forth.
@@Fenris30 also apparently the timeline between CIVIL WAR and now has only been like 3 years
I know the xmen by popculture osmosis, watched a good few of the films but not all, but always been passively interested.
Now a 2 hour video pops up while Ive got soem tedium at work to get through, I feel like Im gonna learn alot today
It was like Lost, he had no idea where he was going with it. That’s only fun for a little while.
It's such a fun premise that just fizzles.
Bendis run was terrible, everything he did to Iceman was AWFUL. The time travel of the young OG team was stupid, the Ape Beast third mutation was bad and all anyone wanted was him back in OG form instead of the cat look (Only John Cassaday ever made cat beast look good). Cyke going full supervillain and all of the stupid Xmen/Inhumans stuff is stupid. It feels more like X-Men than Hickmans absolute garbage hippy racism island bullshit but it was not a good run. Bendis run was way too obsessed with time travel shenanigans too, not only the young ones but that battle of the atom future bad guys too.
It’s for sure not perfect. But when it hit, it really really hit.
Yeah, I agree, I try always make these videos balanced and hopefully that came across 😅
@@MaddoggComics It did indeed, always appreciate that!
The man simply did not give a shit
As someone who only reads through X-men sparsingly for Nightcrawler and Cyclops I LOVED this story
Seeing cyclops actually form his own ideals on how his people should be treated after being “Xavier’s boyscout” so long was really nice
Bendis was the one who made the mutants in the ultimate universe failed super soliders so he was clearly unqualified to write x-men.
I don’t have time to watch this right now, but I can’t wait. I love Bendis’ X-Men. At least the first several volumes of each book. It kinda fizzles out, but the early stuff is so good I don’t even care.
That's why you said it's good, because you don't care. You're a casual bro
@@stellviahohenheimstellar math, stella
“X-men fans don’t know what they want, they just know, ‘don’t do that,’” first of all, incredibly patronizing. And second of all, if they know what they don’t want, then that’s a sign they know what they want. Like, if you genuinely believe that there’s nothing noteworthy in their criticism and thoughts, you’ve failed as a creator. You are not infallible, and the fact that there are so many complaints and comments about these issues is a great example of that.
Like, nobody reading Spiderman wanted MJ to be kidnapped by a mad scientist, get Stockholm syndrome, have his kids, and then treat Peter like he’s the weird one for not being comfortable with this situation. You’re not recreating Secret Wars or Civil War, you’re taking a well developed relationship with beloved characters and actively dedicating on it. If a single Spiderman fan was consulted on this issue, they would have said don’t do it. Because, as he so “eloquently“ put it, they know what they don’t want.
If you don't want to feel patronised, maybe don't be a whiny fanboy bitch. 😂
Can't blame people for treating you based on how you act.
Bendis’ X-Men was my first X-Men, and the All-New team will always have a place in my heart. I related heavily, and in some ways still do, to Cyclops’ breakdown over the course of the series, and it meant a lot to me. But I definitely felt the pieces falling apart in the end. I still think something happened behind the scenes during the Last Will of Xavier arc that made it drag longer, hence the covers and weird stalling for most of the story. But I liked this era and I miss it. So thanks for reminding me of it.
Illyana is my favorite character, it is not hard forme to defend his run because he was the last person to actually remember her abilities and move her story forwards. After we left we had writers misuse her severely. While it isn't that bad anymore, the last person to do progression with her was Bendis. Everyone else is redoing old Limbo stories. Did I just invalidate the entire reason for this video to exist?
No, lmao, no you didn't.
I’m not going to say Bendis is a favorite writer of mine, but I absolutely loved his uncanny and all new X-men runs. I liked the harsher methods that this X-men team took. The ends justified the means at this point. I also liked seeing the younger X-men stuck in the future. Seeing their reaction to how far they had fallen and the things they did in the future was cool to see. I just hate how they had to go back to their own timeline. I swear at some point, it was established that these past X-men were locked out of their own time because it was an alternate universe or something like that.
You aren't alone mate. With the exception of his Iceman flop his run was brilliant.
His Civil War II and Superman on the other hand 😬😬😬
2 hr Video lovely stuff man. I will watch it while on my lunchtime.
Keep it up man 💯
"A white guy screaming at a marginalized community is a line that I really don't want to cross" That was a fantastic example of lightly delivered humor with a dark core. You get a like for that. Also, boy... as a minority who grew up loving the X-Men, there is a LOT of the time where writers like to make them knee-jerk reactive "everyone is a threat to me so I'll be aggressive first!" assholes and it really kinda... feels gross and bad. Though honestly when it's just the extremist mutants and not the X-men themselves, then it feels grounded instead, since that whole mindset is what MAKES them act the way they do. And a good example of how victim mentality can loop around to justifying abusive behavior.
Also if that is a category, it's criminally under-populated by Penelope Hornwright. Because she is legitimately pretty despite being a Ghoul.
Now do one for the Avengers.
People will study how much he misunderstood what Sentry appeal was and the character is still recovering with a strange fanbase all thanks to his complete fumble of it.
I just wish he started a new title starring Tempus, Triage, Morph, Goldballs, and Hijack trying to survive on their own in a post AvX world. Let him play with his own toys and keep him away from the big players
Am I not alone with how badly the out of nowhere Changing of Iceman's Sexuality is? It just feels like it was made for Brownie points with the Community.
It's the same exact reason why the changing of Aqualad to be Bisexual in Young Justice seasons 3/4 never sat right with me because I remember being a fan of this character when he was the most unknown and sole black member of the team and now he's just presented as being Bisexual yet that means he's only ever seen with dudes despite being introduced having a female love interest and theyve absolutely refused to develop his potential as the successor to Aquaman or even his abilities as a leader of young Justice before Nightwing took Over
The Aqualad thing is because DC has a huge issue with homosexuality presented as a good thing entirely, because of how old it is as company.
Their most famous coupling is Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, neither of which are characters that historically would be the poster for that in DC if treated them well.
Which leads to the implication that those two being essentially villains gave them an out to not tolerate it. Which in turn in my view sabotages Harley Quinn's position as the Fourth Pillar of DC exploring mental health through a character. The original Batwoman was perfect to explore Lesbian relationships as a woman wanting to live a normal life with another woman.
The Alan Scott Green Lantern is the biggest display of that problem with male homosexuality, because his entire existence has had that as a part of his character, that writers and editorial flatly refused to explore in a heroic framing, until New 52 Earth 2.
Having Midnighter and Apollo gives them a way to actually properly explore it, but they will not because Midnighter is gay Batman and Apollo is gay Superman. That they will not forgive, so will not focus on books for them, except as the occasional run to show they have them, and ensure they do not go somewhere else, where someone would gallop off with them.
Midnighter himself is in an even more precarious place, because his bigger aspect in his powers are better explored in Valiant's Ninjak, even though Midnighter came before Ninjak.
I'm gay and I think Jean Grey using mind control to make Bobby gay is bad.
It made for some good moments but it came across as a little performative and forced. It's much better to create new gay characters instead of retconning old ones.
@@JoshuaKevinPerry LOL! It's in character though... I can totally see her as that overly-zealous 'ally' who tries to 'make' her friends gay! LOL!
I always felt like the iceman situation was a personal beef & one-upsmanship between him and Jason aron when Jason was the head writer of xmen because prior to that iceman was dating kitty and when Jason left, he broke them up and made iceman gay
I honestly don’t know why Bendis writes comics at this point.
The Bendis X-Men are the reason why I don’t like time travel anymore.
(Still love the X-Men but my god that hurt my brain reading that)
Bendis gives zero fucks about reading or researching for established characters. He does best when he has no cannon to follow. His Spider-Man series is widely popular because he riffs and adapts all the greatest Spider-Man stories ever made.
Really enjoyable video, well done. Subscribed, and looking forward to more.
Thank you for the kind words, took ages to do this one so I'm glad it's being enjoyed 😇 always more videos in the works as well 🐶
Dude BMB has talent. Alias was great, ultimate spiderman was great, and his Daredevil run was one of the best comic runs i ever read.
But now that we have 20+ years of a comic resume, i think we can say his great writing is the exception to an average/bad writing career.
38:20 yeah that part was retcon in Children´s Crusade putting the blame of Wanda´s action during Dissasembled and House of M with her being manipulated by Doctor Doom, and at that point all the Avengers that died during Dissasembled were alive again so I guess everybody thinks she is no longer guilty of anything.
“They don’t know what they want” x-men fans want everything to not be undone with bullshit time travel all the time it’s not that hard
There will always be a thousand different opinions in large fandoms. Any good writer will be able to sift through that and get what will makes sense for the story. They can add things that fans will like without alienating everyone. A bad writer insults the fans then makes a terrible story and blames fans for not enjoying the crap.
Stuart's art in this run was incredibly extra ordinary.
Brian Michael Bendisa is anti-marvel writer of all time!
So I know you said that you are not a big X-Men fan, so it's understandable but I had to scratch my head at you calling Dazzler a lesser known/joke character. In terms of familiarity and popularity in the fandom Dazzler ranks pretty high up there, that's*despite* her not having a lot of recent appearances in comics and on screen adaptions. It was basically just bandis pulling out a character that a lot of people wanted to see again. . . And then doing nothing with it.
It was a fantastic video. Honestly, the fact that nobody talks about it is what made your vid all the more special. I read it a few years back, and was really disappointed by it. I mostly liked the art and redesigns, but the story really was pointless, I didn't feel like it had a single great memorable story. It was vindicating hearing another persons perspective on it, even if it was a bit different from my own, at least I finally got something out of having read it 😅
Excited for this one
Ooh awesome
Hope it was worth the wait mate, thank you for the support! 💪
@@MaddoggComics your welcome :)
@@MaddoggComics always worth it
Still better than any of Garth Ennis's Marvel work.
Punisher Maxx??? ...Ennis is anti industry..but Maxx is top tier
@joshsmith9572 It's absolutely awesome that you enjoyed it. I just couldn't get behind his writing, paired with the art style (forgive me, I forgot their name). It's worse with The Boys, but it's the beginning here. Dude can't help his selective hate boner for superheroes while making a superhero comic.
54 minutes in and i have no idea whats happening 😃
bendis' x-men for you, folks!
I like bendis BUT I hate when he doesn't take in consideration of the overall canon in the marvel comic universe at the time of writing book....what carried these books is the art of bachalo and immonen
There’s no defending Bendis. Period 😄
He really dropped off as a writer post Ultimate Spiderman.
I'll still always back most of his pre-2010 era work, but yeah... this one was tough 😅 hope you enjoyed the video!
I *love* this run personally. Kind of ended weak but man. Was onboard every issue
Only defense this run needs is the fact that I enjoyed the hell out of it. And love it or hate it, lots of aspects of this run persist.
It was my first X-Men comic, so I liked it... 👉👈
after the 2000s i could only dip my toe back into the X-Men every once in a while to see if i would like anything i see, never did. thank the x gene for X-Men 97.
2 hour X-men video is wild
Man, i dont think i read enough of this series to get to Emma but why did they make her look so much like Magik? Especially when Magik is a character in these books.
What I loved about Bendis's X-Men Was that Everyone during this time was trying to make Cyclops this huge villain whilst Bendis was like "No! I'm not doing that". I swear some people had more sympathy for Magneto then Cyclops. It was bi-polar as fuck. Everyone was saying he was doing all this horrible stuff meanwhile he's just doing what the X-men have always done, rescue mutants and teach them how to defend themselves. Reminded me of the old X-Factor days mixed with Cable's X-Force. Fuck RrrrrHate! Also Do you know how many times Xavier has faked his death? Scott thinking Xavier was not dead is not out of the realm of possibility.
The worst version of cyclops they could think was "leader of the Black Panthers", which says a lot about Marvel's morals
I’ll be that guy, I genuinely enjoyed this series. Is it definitive? No. Is it the best series of all time? Probably not. But I had fun reading the series and found the work to be interesting and reflective of the time it came out.
39:34
Reporter: "Well... if you don't want to be called "mutant," what should we call you?"
Havik: "How about Alex?"
That was such a stupidly simple line, and yet at the same time, it was powerful. I have to admit, Bendis has his moments.
That was actually from Rick Remender from his Uncanny Avengers run and Be did was actually bitching about it
Magneto was below cyclops on the pecking order for a while before this story happened. After schism, magneto ends up with cyclops' squad and remains there through avengers vs x men. It would've been weirder for half the x men to follow cyclops during and after the schism just to turn and follow magneto instead immediately after.
Lore of There's no defending Bendis's X-Men momentum 100
I agree never run Brian low
While it has some issues I have some fond memories from this era starting with AVX and then onto Bendis run. I like the ideas Bendis Brought forward eg the 5 OG into the present, the whole Black Vortex and Scott actually became evil . It showed a different side to a character I've personally always liked. Even with the controversy, I still like Bendis, Although it isn't no Ultimate Spider-Man..😄
I did fall out of finishing the run. So cannot say for sure this'll still be my opinion if I did finish. Which going by these comments. Might've been a good thing.😂
Haha well hopefully the video clued you in on what you missed :) I agree with there being some good moments, but we may have to agree to disagree when it comes to Black Vortex 😅 hope you enjoyed the video mate!
I appreciate what he did with Ultimate Spider-Man, dont ask me about anything else
10:45 What do you mean "You can't say a comic from the 60's hasn't aged that well? In the original X-Men, Professor X was a creepy, old PDF file that was horny for an underage Jean Gray while also making fun of disabled people because Xavier wouldn't pursue her because of his inability to walk.
Also, why the praise for Bendis and Ultimate Spiderman? Wolverine was a A-hole to women who tries to sleep with underage girls multiple times and Bendis had Logan try to sleep with MJ while in Peter Parker's body. And don't get me started on the whole Wanda and Pietro incestuous relationship.
Bendis is a sicko.
Truth be told WOMP WOMP old X-Men was fairly mid bendis was good Hickman is perfection
The one thing that this run had was terrorist Cyclops, that was a really cool direction to take his character it's just a shame it fell apart the way it did.
Bendis run made me quit reading x-men all together. I know Krakoa is a masterpiece. But it’s really hard to get back on the horse after that crap shoot of a run
I hit subscribe to encourage doing a video for the 2012 TMNT series!
Say no more, it's in the works 😅 just finished season 1 and remembered how much I enjoyed the show :) thanks for the support! 🐶
People defended this? Bendis should've bounced after siege.
What's so bad about it? Looking forward to getting this as an omnibus
Not a fan of Bendis run on X-men at all. He either didn't understand the characters or didn't give a shit. That said, great video bro💪🏻 You should do more of these in-depth videos on other writers X-men runs. I'll watch every one of them💯
It seems like Bendis was beginning to slip during this run and it only got worse before he left Marvel.
Cyclops was right.
1:42:56 I would definitely watch
This is gonna be fucking awesome
I really hate that he made Iceman gay for no reason and the way he did it was horrible
why does there need to be a reason for a character to be gay? does the character need a reason to be straight?
@DunYappin The issue isn't that there needs to be a reason he wasn't gay to begin with and they made him that way and that's all his stories are about now. You wouldn't be upset if they took a gay, pan, tran character and made them straight.
Dude was always gay coded. Sure he tried to get with woman like Opal Tanaka but it never stuck. Dude friendzoned Rogue when she was on the rebound. C'mon!
@Fenris30 SO wait not getting with some women makes you gay coded wtf lol 😆 😂 🤣
@@Nexion3653 According to my brother, Yeah!
Ultimate X-men was the best
My opinion of Bendis is a bit strange cause I like him for the Ult spider man run, Miles, Moongirl and that's it otherwise I don't have much care for him, he remind me of Joss Whedon
At least we got X-men gold out of all this if I remember correctly, so that’s nice where more or less most of the stuff here never is mentioned at all which is just sad, especially when they do mind wipe the 60s X-men crew before sending them home making everything relating to them being pointless
Im not trying 2
Cyclops did nothing wrong
There is one defense to it and that’s everything that came after it with the exception of HoxPox & what else Hickman wrote for X-men sucked worse than Bendis’ era
Hox/Pox was a fun refresh for the X-Men status quo.
Shame we're going back to standard X-Men adventures more like the Claremont era because of streaming service synergy and the popularity of X-Men 97.
The Hickman run is the best thing to happen to the X-men since the 90’s
You're saying the Krakoa era is bad huh...ok
@joshsmith9572 Krakoa is terrible,and literally re-inforces the nonsense that Bendis introduced in his run.
@rachetmarvel931 Krakoa saved and redeemed Xbooks for the majority of Xfans)
I've been collecting since Claremont. The sales don't lie, but I respect the reality that opinions have a wide margin for individual taste.
Anyway, may I ask what you hated about Hickman? And what then do you consider good X stories?
Goldballs!!!
holy shit two hour video!?
Yeah haha, I got a bit carried away 🤷♂️🤦♂️
It’s typical of writers who are less interested in good storytelling and more about being ‘cool’ and ‘fresh’ - when they come in they are both…then after a while it is apparent they only have one trick and they beat it to death and become stale. Like mark millar. I have a lot of time for Bendis on DD but I hated his avengers stuff which for me marked the decline of my interest in marvel comics. It was so desperate and short sighted cramming in characters like Wolverine and spider man but my biggest issue was the dialogue. Every character was written with the same voice. They all just sounds like wise cracking spider man. And for some reason Bendis was given key to the kingdom and he too much creative input on marvel. I also thought it telling how annoyed he was that civil war (a great event with an actual philosophical debate) got in the way of his secret invasion and siege the two most disappointing and underwhelming events up to that time (maybe onslaught also)
Bendis looks like he stuffed a box of donuts in his mouth and he tried to swallow them all but they got stuck from his chest up to his neck
I hated when mccoy twitter time and injected the old with the new, not fucking everything at all.
I mean, the past being in the now should keep the timeline in constant shift as the young constantly learning from the future AND not doing AND doing so much that the whole dinosaur with buttlerfly wingseffect should change just about everything.
And for the worse, as lots of old shit they have been through, they got through from people dying or by the skin of their teeth.
Fuck.
This was a perfect dumpster fire blend of garbage and trash. Not the video, the Bendis run. I haven't even finished the video yet, good so far tho.
Marvel was fully in its "Let's downplay (ruin) all characters for who we don't own all media and merchandising rights!" mode. And Bendis was is his "I'm mad I'm missing out on the big pay day with the Super popular character I created becoming a multimedia phenomenon, like other superstar talent" phase. This era of X-Men showed how much Marvel didn't care about the fans or the characters. And it exposed Bendis for his limited talent and skill at aping better writers style, Giffen and DeMatteis mostly for the dialogue, and Moore, Wolfman, Englehart and other DC writers for story. This run is basically Claremont's Days of Future Past drawn out in the most Dan Jurgens way, with Giffen's pithy banter.
He's a well-liked hack writer but the well of remixed ideas of others had run dry and it was proven when he went to DC and crapped the bed and changed and ruined so much DC just ignores it happened except for the aging up of Jon Kent which can't be credibly retconned or brushed away. All titles and new characters created by Bendis have been regulated to the trashpin of comic limbo...where they belong
"X-Men fans never like any change", what? Talk to any X-Men fan community and you'll find most people love the post mutant massacre/outback era which is one of the biggest status quo changes in the history of the book
Bendis run was fine Hickman's was perfect
My brother used to pick iceman on so many games when we where young. When iceman came out gay. Brother wont even give a glance after that. never heard of him mention iceman ever since .
It's called "homophobia" get your brother professional help
Maybe your brother could work on being a little less bigoted
@@luisvazquez5041 oh shut the fuck up. Its not homophobic, so if Marvel made 616 Peter Parker gay and they dont support/like it their homophobic?
That's pretty gd lame. Is he scared of his own love for manthings?
I actually loved Bendis run it was different
You are a strange individual.
Nobody is buying your trolling.
Each to their own, there were some good moments in it, hopefully this video didn't say that enjoyment!
I'm going to be clear on this. Bendis's run on X-Men is a great run but it had some flaws and some great things. His biggest flaw was bringing the original X-Men to the present which brought issues for comic readers. Not to mention the love triangle of Jean, Hank, and Scott. The best parts about this run, is how it crosses over with Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers, Original Sin, and how Charles kept a secret from the X-Men of why Matthew Malloy is a powerful mutant.
Battle of the Atom and the trial of Jean Grey are great story arcs in Bendis's run. Inhumanity, however is tempting.
What I'm puzzled about is if it's possible for Matthew Malloy to return after the events of Secret Wars 2015 as a reincarnation.