I agree. The lower aerodynamics help a lot. I went with the HKS adjustable springs and spacers. What are you thoughts on going with coilovers? Are they worth it?
Oh cool! Unless your tracking the car, I don’t really see the need for coil overs. Stock dampers are really good and the two modes in nice to have. Adjustable springs would be pretty sweet tho for a good blend of a normal spring or coilover
the oe dampers are really high quality plus its electronicly adjustable lowering kits like mss or hks pretty much turn them into real coilover plus those kit have a slightly higher spring rate then oem so you will have a slightly better driving car trade off is slighty worst ride somthing like a less agressive bilstein evo se or kw ddc if indeed you want the best of the best suspension for the race track you will need to spend big kw v3/bilstien evo/ohlins dfv and those are full non electronic ajustable stuff you can even select your spring k rating but those arent as easy to live with as the oe electronic damper with a adjustable lowering kit.
i already have spacers incoming but worried that the springs would make it too low. how's the driving experience so far? do you scrape getting in and our of garages? or when going over speed bumps?
Both very different cars. GTR is a supercar. Supra is a very nice sportscar. GTR is raw and mechanical and old school. And has supercar acceleration. Supra has more modern tech and I love the manual. Manual Supra is hot on the heals of fun factor of a GTR I think. But very different cars overall
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Its funny hearing how raw a GTR is now days. When it first came out a lot of press were saying it was too much computer. How time have changed.
@@kobedabestyeah by the time I bought one that’s all I heard from people. Then I drove it and really can’t understand how ppl think it’s a computer. I think just back then, it was so fast and had new tech, ppl didn’t know what to think. But it’s a very old school raw experience
Lets say you want to run aftermarket wheels similar to the stock wheel specs, would you still suggest hub centric rings even if the spacers have the hub centric lip?
If your after market wheels have the identical center bore to stock, you won't need them. But if they are larger you'll want hub centric rings. My GTR had Vossen wheels on them, they were made with stock size center bore, so never needed rings. The ESR wheels I did on my last Supra and our S3 I needed rings since they were larger
@@mk5_3I highly doubt it. If anything, if one of your dampers ends up failing, a dealer would probably blame the springs for it to a avoid covering it under warranty. I’ve never heard of anyone having issues with these dampers tho.
I didn’t want to fully install it yet. I’ll be wrapping the car and I don’t want to deal with pulling it off to wrap the car. Don’t want to risk breaking it
Either can work. The tires size and wheel offset will get you the flush look. But on OEM tires with 15mm spacers and the H&R springs. Car is nice and flush and fills the wheel gap out with no rubbing. We have all this on our website. www.brosfourrspeed.com
Cool vid. I drove my old Supra back to back with the Z4. th-cam.com/video/2C_Q2rM1_SI/w-d-xo.html Very different cars. However both Toyota and BMW had an equal input on these cars. It just happened to be physically built by BMW with their parts
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That looks clean and nice when it's lowered
Thanks!
I agree. The lower aerodynamics help a lot. I went with the HKS adjustable springs and spacers. What are you thoughts on going with coilovers? Are they worth it?
Oh cool! Unless your tracking the car, I don’t really see the need for coil overs. Stock dampers are really good and the two modes in nice to have. Adjustable springs would be pretty sweet tho for a good blend of a normal spring or coilover
the oe dampers are really high quality plus its electronicly adjustable lowering kits like mss or hks pretty much turn them into real coilover plus those kit have a slightly higher spring rate then oem so you will have a slightly better driving car trade off is slighty worst ride somthing like a less agressive bilstein evo se or kw ddc if indeed you want the best of the best suspension for the race track you will need to spend big kw v3/bilstien evo/ohlins dfv and those are full non electronic ajustable stuff you can even select your spring k rating but those arent as easy to live with as the oe electronic damper with a adjustable lowering kit.
Curious, what made you choose H&R spacers over another brand of spacer?
Oh my gosh!! Your content helps me dude.
Glad to help!
Got it, hubcentric. When cars are lowered too much or have the wheels pushed out too much it looks way off to me.
Yeah you can go too far and ruin it for sure. This is the sweet spot
oh boy . that wrap is coming soon . i can feel it . such a beautiful machine and to think is going to get wrap makes me cringe !
Lol wraps are temporary tho. So it’ll be fun to try that for a bit
i already have spacers incoming but worried that the springs would make it too low. how's the driving experience so far? do you scrape getting in and our of garages? or when going over speed bumps?
I talked about all of that in the video 😅
Solid setup!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed my bad! got excited to comment as im watching your video. just ordered the springs 30 seconds ago!
@@sneakrpickhaha all good! Great upgrade!
How do you liked the Supra vs. GTR in terms of driving dynamics?
Both very different cars. GTR is a supercar. Supra is a very nice sportscar. GTR is raw and mechanical and old school. And has supercar acceleration. Supra has more modern tech and I love the manual. Manual Supra is hot on the heals of fun factor of a GTR I think. But very different cars overall
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Its funny hearing how raw a GTR is now days. When it first came out a lot of press were saying it was too much computer. How time have changed.
@@kobedabestyeah by the time I bought one that’s all I heard from people. Then I drove it and really can’t understand how ppl think it’s a computer. I think just back then, it was so fast and had new tech, ppl didn’t know what to think. But it’s a very old school raw experience
I have H&R on my Supra. Just wish the rear was lower like Eibach
I could see that. Maybe another .25 in. But overall it gives the car a really good stance
Feel like the back wheels could be even more flush actually...maybe 15 front 18 back?
Yeah I think 20mm in back would be good too. I had a guy order that setup from our site
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Hey! in your professional opinion, will a 20 MM spacer in the back give you issues?
Would love to see some tech added.
Like what?
Lets say you want to run aftermarket wheels similar to the stock wheel specs, would you still suggest hub centric rings even if the spacers have the hub centric lip?
If your after market wheels have the identical center bore to stock, you won't need them. But if they are larger you'll want hub centric rings. My GTR had Vossen wheels on them, they were made with stock size center bore, so never needed rings. The ESR wheels I did on my last Supra and our S3 I needed rings since they were larger
are these spacer specs the same for the normal supra wheels?
Yeah will fit all of the Supras. Should make any stock Supra look nice and flush. Same for the 4cyl even
You convinced me bro
It’s a great setup!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed does it do anything to the warranty though 😭
@@mk5_3I highly doubt it. If anything, if one of your dampers ends up failing, a dealer would probably blame the springs for it to a avoid covering it under warranty. I’ve never heard of anyone having issues with these dampers tho.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I guess I'll weigh my options, I really wanna get the most out of this car but I did pay for that warranty after all 😅
What happened to the rear spoiler?
I didn’t want to fully install it yet. I’ll be wrapping the car and I don’t want to deal with pulling it off to wrap the car. Don’t want to risk breaking it
@@BrosFOURRSpeed understood
How low is it now?
1in drop up front and .75in drop in back. I talked about that in the video. No rubbing or scraping either
15mm front and back and spacers?
Yes 15mm all around! Everything fit perfect!
Now that you have had it lowered for a bit, have you had any issues with clearance? TYIA!
Actually no. This is the sweet spot. I have scraped on anything. Seems like you can do a 1in drop on most cars and still clear normal road items
Link?
All the links are in the description! You can find them on
www.brosfourrspeed.com!
so 15mm for all?
Yup! Perfect fit all around
No aftermart wheels can match those factory ones. Not only applies for this car, but for loads of performance cars.
They are sweet for sure! Excited for the new setup tho!
Dude I need help. 20 inch or 19? What will make the wheels look more flush but still handle nice with no rub
Either can work. The tires size and wheel offset will get you the flush look. But on OEM tires with 15mm spacers and the H&R springs. Car is nice and flush and fills the wheel gap out with no rubbing. We have all this on our website. www.brosfourrspeed.com
That Camry steering wheel gtg 😅
Lol it’s an old 3 series BMW wheel. Which it had a new M2 wheel
@@BrosFOURRSpeed that'll be dope.
I don't know if this guy is 21 and looks like 40 or the other way around.
I’m 29 🤷♂️
Spacers ruin wheel hub bearings
If they are 2” sure! Minor spacers like this won’t really affect that.
Fine bmw!
Haven’t heard that one yet 😂
@@BrosFOURRSpeed th-cam.com/video/_jbyzmtgU_0/w-d-xo.html
Cool vid. I drove my old Supra back to back with the Z4. th-cam.com/video/2C_Q2rM1_SI/w-d-xo.html
Very different cars. However both Toyota and BMW had an equal input on these cars. It just happened to be physically built by BMW with their parts