It's funny how people think the Supra built by BMW is a bad thing. They don't realize you get a great driving machine that had it's quality control from Toyota and tuned. You get the best of 2 worlds. I would never buy a BMW but with Toyota's approval, you can't go wrong. Power and reliability for sure. I love my 2022 Supra! Great content guys 👍
See, this is what us Euro guys have been telling you JDM kids for years. I find it ironic that you still don't consider buying a BMW . Enjoy the Zupra though. Lol
@@Sarcastic_Asmodeus Telling us what? That y’all’s shit notoriously leaks coolant and oil Is this the first engine Toyota has “approved” or they been doing this? Just cause the B58 is doing good now don’t mean it will when it has milage on it 😂 that’s the thing about BMW oh man AWESOME before 50-70k it’s after that and why most people only have it when it under warranty 😂 I work at a dealership I would know always come in very very low milage like you know it’s bad when bmw owners will tell you they barely drive they shit and that shit ain’t no Supra it’s a Z4
@@EBKFiXXY very true, the 2021 had engine consumption problems and destroyed the engine within 1700 miles. Toyota had to replace or refund the cars until they fixed the problem. The B58 engine is good because of Toyota. I still wouldn't buy a BMW (Bring My Wallet) to fix or Euro cars. They deprecated the most because you have to fix them the most. MAYBE lease lol
I’m 6’4” and fit in my Supra just fine. I did remove the fake brace from behind the seats. That gives me another inch or two to push the seat back a little more. Having a small car keeps me young getting in and out all of the time lol. Great video!!!
@@BigfootUnibrowMan You should be good to go. The way I sit in the car I have plenty of head room but my legs are not cramped or in the steering wheel.
As a 6’5 dude, I can actually fit pretty comfortably in my Supra. I just have to push the seat up against the bar up a bit. Done multiple road trips in it as well, absolutely love the car
@@snoozieeee3325 lol you right. I’m not tall at all but I be struggling getting in and out of the Supra sometimes. Can imagine what it’s like for those WAYYY taller than me.
I own a 2022 Supra and one other thing that is a pro about it is that you get to meet a lot of people. It’s weird how the car is able to spark conversation, good or bad! I have a Fi Catless Downpipe and an Armaspeed intake and it sounds beautiful 😍
I got my s3 to be stealth and lowkey, fast but not attention seeker, but now its so lowkey that i miss having compliments on my car so might need a supra now lol
You guys didn't mention interior noise (windows closed), but based upon what I've read in Car & Driver, the noise level is actually fairly low (68 db) compared to many other sportscars. That's a good thing for those who drive on the highway, often. I hope to test-drive one to experience the drive.
Now that you can get it in a manual, the Supra is my new dream car. The price isn’t that crazy, 69 grand Canadian and I can own one and in todays world where how much cars cost, that’s not crazy especially considering how good it looks and how it offers serious competitive speed against much more expensive cars with only a tune and minor mods.
With destination its around 72k + taxes as the other person mentioned. I have on order for a 2024 MY. Can’t quite afford it this year with other expenses taking precedence
I'm not a Toyota fan, always been an Acura Integra fan. Despite that since I've seen the new Toyota/BMW Supra I have to say this car is hot. A lot of loyal Toyota fans hate the fact that Toyota collaborated with BMW and it had BMW parts, etc... Still this car I would buy it now that it comes with true "manual transmission" not an automatic with paddle shifters. 2 door sports cars are the hottest and this car fits the label.
Tbh, not hating on the Collab. Bmw been building I6 cars for a loooong time. I think it was not only a good business move, but a pretty awesome one. Bmw of all makes was the right choice.
Great content and video. Couldn’t agree more about getting a Supra. I was fortunate and got an A91-MT in CU Later Gray about 6 weeks ago. I have the best dealer experience ever, honest and respectful with integrity. Exceeded my expectations and they sold at MSRP unlike so many that price gouge the consumers. Put a carbon fiber trunk spoiler on but am looking at swapping for a high wing spoiler. A few other mods as well only wish you could tune the new ones. The manual transmission is phenomenal and a joy to drive.
MSRP on a CU LATER? Thats freaking awesome man. Great deal! If you were local I would have LOVED to review it! I have not yet seen a manual supra local to me yet.
How do you like the MT trans and gearbox so far? I haven't heard anything bad about it, and I am looking to get one myself. But I would like to hear from other drivers about how they feel about it.
@@isiahnevarez8294 I love it. Only complaint is hard to be smooth from first to second has a little bit of a jerk the rest you can be butter smooth. Might be the gearing to shift at a higher rpm than I do for normal driving. Gear and clutch are smooth and easy shifts.
I love seeing people's opinions on the Supra. Just patiently waiting for my dealership to get my manual in, so then I can be one of the ones with an opinion
@@po.russki No :( Only one guy has gotten a Supra from my dealership, and it only just arrived for him at the end of December. Still no word yet. And too late to get on any decent spot of a list at other dealerships, I've been on my dealership list since May
@@po.russki I know west coast is getting them, my dealer isn't. Won't say specifically where, but it's midwest-ish and the dealership is one of the biggest in the state. So I thought they'd get more than just one by now, but I also heard the majority of manual Supras (not A91-MT) were going to get shipped starting '23, like the GR Corolla, so I'm hoping to hear something this month and have it arrive in March-April ish. But if you want one, get on the list. There's plenty of people who will get on the list, and when they're told "Hey, it's coming" they'll back out, and they should keep the manual until the Supra ceases production after MY25, so worst case, you get the MY24 Supra manual lol
I was just debating whether or not to purchase an F8X Competition or wait out my order for a 2023 Supra and you've definitely helped me make up my mind-Thanks!
Both are really great cars! With the F8X you do get extra seats! But you get great performance from both and a lower insurance rate with the Supra :) my favorite part
I have had two modified s55 powered cars with no problems whatsoever. The crank hub issue mentioned in this video affected a small percentage of car owners. Even the guy in the video never experienced the issue himself. Just said it exists lol.
So sweet i bought my A90 year 2020, And 3 years of owning i still feel in love with her. Mode , cut less down pipe exhaust , hks carbon fiber cooler in take, e50 tuned , by ecuteck, streethunter wings, spoiler.
Great video and hit home with me. My 2016 6MT F83 had as close to no sounds related to the performance as technologically possible. The sounds from my 2019 X3 M40i (with B58) are heavenly. Pulls so hard and puts up 25 MPG on the highway.
Uh, Hawaii car insurance is way higher than Washington state. When I moved to Washington on 2001, my car insurance dropped considerably. I asked my agent why and he said that there are better drivers in Washington than Hawaii. Nice ride, both you guys. When I get mine in renaissance red, I'm gonna change engine supports to cf, intake, exhaust, cover wind buffeting thingy w/ carbon fiber, tint windows, and wrap front.
Had a 330xi with an inline 6. Had a ton of fun with that car. I never thought it was unreliable. But if something did go wrong it was expensive to fix.
There are so many car youtubers out there on yt But I have to comment bc your PRESENTATION is what a lot of them miss The framing of the shots feels intentional and it looks good Your pacing and energy with each other is also good Keep up the great work Would love videos on 86's
I don't know about any Larry Chen girl, but I watch Jackie Ding race his A90 Supra around the track and he is amazing. Him and his guys have been setting track records with the car.
Yup! Jackie Ding has been killing it! We only referenced Hana because she was tracking the Supra at stock power and has done very well. Even at stock power the Supra is an amazing car.
It understeers because it's McPhearson strut with double balljoint front. It reduces camber as it leans and that's not what you want in a performance application. McPhearson strut is an economical invention like a FWD car. Sure they can do amazing things with both nowadays, but the underlying technology is not as good as double wishbone(SLA). With SLA suspension you can fine tune the camber arc to increase/decrease or to have it stay steady and parallel to the floor of the chassis among other things not possible with McPhearson. Add the horrendous double ball joint lower arms this platform has and it's impossible to get a heim joint on the tension arm instead of a bushing. It also increases scrub radius and decreases caster while turning on the inside wheel which is the opposite of what you want.
Nice. Love the content and your thoughts on it. I was deciding on the supra or the brz/86 whenever I get back to the states but this video definitely seals the deal with the supra.
As someone that has zero interest in owning a Supra, this is honestly very interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. Not a fan of the QR steering wheels, personally.
I think the B58 is going to turn out to be one of those legendary engines in the future. I currently have a M340i and a X3 M40i and soon to replace the M40i with an X3M. Have fun with those my dudes! Also love how you guys embrace the BMW-ness of it all. LOL Note: The earlier Supra had the B58 variant out of the base X5 s/xdrive 40i and the 540i. The later Supra got the variant out of the M240i, M340i, M440i, X3/4 M40i and Z4 M40i. A 375 HP variant is also used in the X7.
First time watching your video, well put together! My 2021 a91 Supra will get here on Sunday. This video broke down everything I needed to know! 🙏🏼 This will be my first ever sports car !
I owned a '21 Supra 3.0 Premium for three years and had zero problems besides occasionally hitting my head getting in and out. Was not a fan of BMW before owning it, but the car changed my mind about them. Traded the Supra in for a new M4 Competition last month and am even happier with that than the Supra. It was a great car to own and you're getting a lot for your money without the BMW upcharge. Go price a Z4 with the same exact features/options and you'll see.
Encouraging stuff, and hope it's still great two years later! I remember following the development of this car daily from the moment the FT-1 concept came out and the original Supramkv forum started. I was blessed to own a MKIV back then. I still haven't pulled the trigger on this one yet between various life changes since the pandemic, and actually went all-in-one practical on the Korean side with a Kona N (I'm up in Canada and have to deal with Alberta winters), but I've been getting the itch lately, and think I'll be taking more active steps to getting one at some point (my deadline will be if they announce a last year for it). I really appreciate you guys sharing your real world experiences!
You guys are spot-on about so many of these points, both good and bad. Picked up a CPO '21 Nitro Yellow 3.0 Premium with only 3k miles for significantly under MSRP back in October. These can be gotten for reasonable prices! One quick question: I've been looking for some kind of organizer for the rear hatch. That one you are using at 12:49 looks perfect. What is that?
Have a question- at 3.00 you say 'I couldnt tune mine because its locked'- how do you mean? Does the 2022 Supra genuinely not allow you access to the port, are there ways around it? Think I might take a tuneable lower power over a locked higher power- maybe I misunderstood. Great breakdown video thanks!
@stepz1876 I've been trying to research this as well, all I've found so far is that you have to ship your ECU out to a company to get unlocked then you can tune. Which adds a hefty price
I only had two issues with the Supra when I drove one. Wind buffeting (fixable as they said) and the total lack of feedback through the steering wheel. Felt like playing a video game. Most cars are like that nowadays unfortunately. :( Everything else about the car was great.
After watching this video, I’m glad I started with a halo GR 86 premium. After getting super comfortable with the 86, I might upgrade to the Supra. Love both.
Is the Supra actually faster than an F80? I’m pushing close to 480hp stock. If true, I may be getting a Supra! Great vid. Thanks for mentioning the cost of insurance.
I have a wind buffering question. Have you both compared the 2 cars for the wind noise since you both used different products? Do they both work the exact same or does one work better than the other?? Thank you so much.
@@vinhgeta it's awesome bro thanks - still only got 550 miles on it, got it factory new, it was almost too notchy at first lol, but it's loosening up as it runs in and it is a dream come true. The downshift is something to die for...
I changed the horn to a set of dual Tundra horns. (High and low note…). Sounds appropriate now. The majority of the rattles were cured by removing the door cards and using some soft side of Velcro. Great car.
Hey mate. Love your supra! Such a sick build! I was wondering if you could share some insights on the difference between the B58B30C (335hp) vs B58B30B (382hp) in terms of its reliability and mod-friendliness as the latter has 6ports vs 2ports on the cylinder head. Key differences on the cylinder head, manifold, piston and turbo iirc
Great review guys! People usually get mad when called BMW Supra because they just can't accept that. Nothing wrong with a BMW, one of the best handling cars ever. But, a BMW Camry, that's hilarious.
Great video, im glad I found your channel! Im actually debating on getting the 2023 8 speed auto Supra. Do you think its a good idea? (the purchase). It would be my first ever off the dealership car. I know people would opt for the 6MT, but I feel like driving stick would be a hassle daily in traffic and whatnot.
I was hesitant at first because I love Toyota engineering, and I’m lukewarm on German cars. However, my 2023 GR Supra changed that because the performance speaks for itself. When people try to sh!t-talk me because “It’s basically a BMW M4”, I simply reply with a smile and “I’m okay with that”.
I always watch your videos, and you are absolutely right; I just sold my 2016 Bmw F80 m3 and Guess what? 3 weeks later i purchased at 2023 red Gr Supra and i love it. well I just got less than 500 miles on it and i already installed the TJ trunk spoiler and some wheels spacer. Lol 😁🔥
That’s a hard question. I’ve owned manual cars all my life and the Supra is actually the first auto. I do not regret it at all! I wouldn’t trade for a manual. Can’t go wrong with either!
@@vinhgeta It is. I've been driving my WRX all throughout NYC traffic and hr long commutes, and I really don't mind it, it's kinda fun actually. But between that and save the manuals, I can see the manual retaining far more value 10 years later. Maybe I might just have to test drive one first haha
Haters are here and they won’t go away lol 😂!! LOSERS. Love your video brother, those b58 engines are no joke and there so easy and cost effective to upgrade. You could easily bump up your engine to 600hp safely with just bolts on and tuned. Nice setup on those supra 👍👍
I had mixed feelings about the GR Supra from the start. Probably because of the partnership with BMW vs doing a complete in-house option like Nissan. I guess the first place to start is how most of the power train and essential components are akin to the Z4. While not bad, the m4 or m235 could have been a more solid place to begin. There's also the issue of engine reliability. It's all fun and games until we are the victim of the "Hello, friend" meme, and I genuinely haven't seen a reliable BMW engine since the e30 4 cylinder. Heck the Lotus Evora/Exige supercharged 6 (which is off of a Camry btw) with a BMW sourced transmission could have been a cheaper and more reliable choice. The second thing I nitpick is the design. It feels similar to the Lexus "predator" aesthetic in the shape of a Z4 coupe. If it paid homage to mkiv in the way the 2005 mustang to the 1965, I would have a softer heart. Let me know what you think.
@@smog-097 true, but it would be nice if it looked less like a Lexus. Sort of like how you can tell a Chevy from a Cadillac. I think that's what I was thinking of.
@@jared5437"looked less like a Lexus" Literally the MK4 A80 Supra came from the Lexus SC 400/300 Coupe (and the 300 has the 2JZ. Long before the existince of the Supra A80 MK4). Go figure
Thank you so much guys for telling us of how good Toyota Supra is ! I wish to purchase it someday in the future. Hopefully , soon! I enjoyed watching this video it gives me lots of emotions of how good Supra is ! Wow ! That so incredible ! 😊🎉 I think I love Supra now! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊😊😊
Awesome! I was just thinking about trading my S4 in for a Supra, or an M2... just have not decided yet until I came across this channel. I live in the Bellevue area as well, so it's always supra cool to see some TH-camrs from my area. Right on, great video guys. @ 4:17 looks like the Sammamish area. :)
Okay about the sound system. Yes, it's not as good as other cars, but you absolutely have to go into the settings and tune it. It actually has a really good tuner for a stock radio with, I think, 9 different channels. Once you do that it actually becomes great
Nice video and nice cars. I was stationed in Everett, and although Washington is a beautiful state, I don't miss it too much. But I do miss your coffee stands.
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It's funny how people think the Supra built by BMW is a bad thing. They don't realize you get a great driving machine that had it's quality control from Toyota and tuned. You get the best of 2 worlds. I would never buy a BMW but with Toyota's approval, you can't go wrong. Power and reliability for sure. I love my 2022 Supra! Great content guys 👍
See, this is what us Euro guys have been telling you JDM kids for years. I find it ironic that you still don't consider buying a BMW . Enjoy the Zupra though. Lol
@@Sarcastic_Asmodeus Telling us what? That y’all’s shit notoriously leaks coolant and oil Is this the first engine Toyota has “approved” or they been doing this? Just cause the B58 is doing good now don’t mean it will when it has milage on it 😂 that’s the thing about BMW oh man AWESOME before 50-70k it’s after that and why most people only have it when it under warranty 😂 I work at a dealership I would know always come in very very low milage like you know it’s bad when bmw owners will tell you they barely drive they shit and that shit ain’t no Supra it’s a Z4
Exactly I love my supra like nothing the haters say make sense to me
@@EBKFiXXY very true, the 2021 had engine consumption problems and destroyed the engine within 1700 miles. Toyota had to replace or refund the cars until they fixed the problem. The B58 engine is good because of Toyota. I still wouldn't buy a BMW (Bring My Wallet) to fix or Euro cars. They deprecated the most because you have to fix them the most. MAYBE lease lol
@@gunmetal5609 you telling me you’d never want to own a M car? I loved the M4 and will likely own another in the future
I dont care what anybody else says either, its a Supra. if i could afford one id get one in a heartbeat. Haters gonna hate!
Supra or rcf or lc500 😁🤔
I’m 6’4” and fit in my Supra just fine. I did remove the fake brace from behind the seats. That gives me another inch or two to push the seat back a little more. Having a small car keeps me young getting in and out all of the time lol. Great video!!!
LOL that’s a great way to look at it 😂 keep us young!
glad to hear this. also 6'4. tryna go sit in one first before the impulse takes over.
@@lagrange3859 I don’t think you’ll regret getting a MKV. The car is awesome!
I'm 6'3" but most of my height is in my legs, so more worried about leg room than head room.
@@BigfootUnibrowMan You should be good to go. The way I sit in the car I have plenty of head room but my legs are not cramped or in the steering wheel.
As a 6’5 dude, I can actually fit pretty comfortably in my Supra. I just have to push the seat up against the bar up a bit. Done multiple road trips in it as well, absolutely love the car
That’s awesome man! I can’t imagine getting in and out of the Supra for ya. Sometimes it be too much for me 😂
Same at 6.3
Me also I fit perfectly
Dudes aren’t even tall at all and talking about not enough room to sit 🤣🤣there’s more than enough for the both of y’all lol
@@snoozieeee3325 lol you right. I’m not tall at all but I be struggling getting in and out of the Supra sometimes. Can imagine what it’s like for those WAYYY taller than me.
I own a 2022 Supra and one other thing that is a pro about it is that you get to meet a lot of people. It’s weird how the car is able to spark conversation, good or bad! I have a Fi Catless Downpipe and an Armaspeed intake and it sounds beautiful 😍
I agree with this 100%! I’ve made so many new friends because of the Supra!
I got my s3 to be stealth and lowkey, fast but not attention seeker, but now its so lowkey that i miss having compliments on my car so might need a supra now lol
Do u hear small rocks rolling around the back and quarter panels??
I wish I own a supra. 👍
You guys didn't mention interior noise (windows closed), but based upon what I've read in Car & Driver, the noise level is actually fairly low (68 db) compared to many other sportscars. That's a good thing for those who drive on the highway, often. I hope to test-drive one to experience the drive.
I love that black Supra. The wing is the cherry on top. Definitely buying one soon.
Now that you can get it in a manual, the Supra is my new dream car. The price isn’t that crazy, 69 grand Canadian and I can own one and in todays world where how much cars cost, that’s not crazy especially considering how good it looks and how it offers serious competitive speed against much more expensive cars with only a tune and minor mods.
They up’d the price its 72k now
With destination its around 72k + taxes as the other person mentioned. I have on order for a 2024 MY. Can’t quite afford it this year with other expenses taking precedence
I'm not a Toyota fan, always been an Acura Integra fan. Despite that since I've seen the new Toyota/BMW Supra I have to say this car is hot. A lot of loyal Toyota fans hate the fact that Toyota collaborated with BMW and it had BMW parts, etc... Still this car I would buy it now that it comes with true "manual transmission" not an automatic with paddle shifters. 2 door sports cars are the hottest and this car fits the label.
Manual transmission is already available!
Tbh, not hating on the Collab. Bmw been building I6 cars for a loooong time. I think it was not only a good business move, but a pretty awesome one. Bmw of all makes was the right choice.
Great content and video. Couldn’t agree more about getting a Supra. I was fortunate and got an A91-MT in CU Later Gray about 6 weeks ago. I have the best dealer experience ever, honest and respectful with integrity. Exceeded my expectations and they sold at MSRP unlike so many that price gouge the consumers. Put a carbon fiber trunk spoiler on but am looking at swapping for a high wing spoiler. A few other mods as well only wish you could tune the new ones. The manual transmission is phenomenal and a joy to drive.
MSRP on a CU LATER? Thats freaking awesome man. Great deal! If you were local I would have LOVED to review it! I have not yet seen a manual supra local to me yet.
Where did you get one at MSRP?? 👀
@@shimmyjamily Moses Toyota in Charleston, WV. They were the best dealership I have ever done business with.
How do you like the MT trans and gearbox so far? I haven't heard anything bad about it, and I am looking to get one myself. But I would like to hear from other drivers about how they feel about it.
@@isiahnevarez8294 I love it. Only complaint is hard to be smooth from first to second has a little bit of a jerk the rest you can be butter smooth. Might be the gearing to shift at a higher rpm than I do for normal driving. Gear and clutch are smooth and easy shifts.
I love seeing people's opinions on the Supra. Just patiently waiting for my dealership to get my manual in, so then I can be one of the ones with an opinion
Manual Supra 😮💨 enjoy the car bro!
You get it yet?
@@po.russki No :( Only one guy has gotten a Supra from my dealership, and it only just arrived for him at the end of December. Still no word yet. And too late to get on any decent spot of a list at other dealerships, I've been on my dealership list since May
@@ezioahmet4192 oh wow. I was thinking of ordering one but figured the wait shouldn’t be too bad
@@po.russki I know west coast is getting them, my dealer isn't. Won't say specifically where, but it's midwest-ish and the dealership is one of the biggest in the state. So I thought they'd get more than just one by now, but I also heard the majority of manual Supras (not A91-MT) were going to get shipped starting '23, like the GR Corolla, so I'm hoping to hear something this month and have it arrive in March-April ish. But if you want one, get on the list. There's plenty of people who will get on the list, and when they're told "Hey, it's coming" they'll back out, and they should keep the manual until the Supra ceases production after MY25, so worst case, you get the MY24 Supra manual lol
I was just debating whether or not to purchase an F8X Competition or wait out my order for a 2023 Supra and you've definitely helped me make up my mind-Thanks!
Both are really great cars! With the F8X you do get extra seats! But you get great performance from both and a lower insurance rate with the Supra :) my favorite part
What do you do for a living?
I have had two modified s55 powered cars with no problems whatsoever. The crank hub issue mentioned in this video affected a small percentage of car owners. Even the guy in the video never experienced the issue himself. Just said it exists lol.
Just signed the papers for a 2023 yellow manual. I'm so excited to go pick it up.
Love the channel and the insights
So cool. I can’t wait to buy this car🥺
After a few years now, im in Love with the Toyota Supra! Mind blowing beautiful and inspiring
First time watching and I gotta say I love the vibe. I am not doubt getting a Supra now, will be seeing more of y’all
So sweet i bought my A90 year 2020, And 3 years of owning i still feel in love with her. Mode , cut less down pipe exhaust , hks carbon fiber cooler in take, e50 tuned , by ecuteck, streethunter wings, spoiler.
dude thank u so much i was thinkin about the car so much and now im probably buying it , thank u for your work ur a good person
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video
Great video and hit home with me.
My 2016 6MT F83 had as close to no sounds related to the performance as technologically possible.
The sounds from my 2019 X3 M40i (with B58) are heavenly. Pulls so hard and puts up 25 MPG on the highway.
Loved every second, thanks for the best information given on the Toyota Supra’s 👋🏻
Thank you for watching!! 🙏
Hi Vinh I never wanted a supra until I saw how you built yours. Your car is a work of art.
Dam.. thank you!! 🫶
Uh, Hawaii car insurance is way higher than Washington state. When I moved to Washington on 2001, my car insurance dropped considerably. I asked my agent why and he said that there are better drivers in Washington than Hawaii. Nice ride, both you guys.
When I get mine in renaissance red, I'm gonna change engine supports to cf, intake, exhaust, cover wind buffeting thingy w/ carbon fiber, tint windows, and wrap front.
Been looking at supra videos for so long and you guys are the first to answer the tall question 😂 thanks!
Had a 330xi with an inline 6. Had a ton of fun with that car. I never thought it was unreliable. But if something did go wrong it was expensive to fix.
There are so many car youtubers out there on yt
But I have to comment bc your PRESENTATION is what a lot of them miss
The framing of the shots feels intentional and it looks good
Your pacing and energy with each other is also good
Keep up the great work
Would love videos on 86's
I'm currently modding the 2006 GX470 that I grew up in. I'm so glad that it's 100% made in Japan. My next car will be a Supra JZA80.
I want a MK4 too!
I don't know about any Larry Chen girl, but I watch Jackie Ding race his A90 Supra around the track and he is amazing. Him and his guys have been setting track records with the car.
Yup! Jackie Ding has been killing it! We only referenced Hana because she was tracking the Supra at stock power and has done very well. Even at stock power the Supra is an amazing car.
difference with Jackie’s car is that he has over $40-50k dumped into the car. There’s a reason why his car is able to compete with GT4+ level cars
@@allyoucan69 Still the fact that he's still under $100k in mods to compete with GT4 level cars is insane!
Love my Supra. Nothing can beat the fun of having this car
Love the Supra! Such a blast to drive
Hi i was wondering what did he meant by locked 3:03 like u can’t tune it ?
It understeers because it's McPhearson strut with double balljoint front. It reduces camber as it leans and that's not what you want in a performance application. McPhearson strut is an economical invention like a FWD car. Sure they can do amazing things with both nowadays, but the underlying technology is not as good as double wishbone(SLA). With SLA suspension you can fine tune the camber arc to increase/decrease or to have it stay steady and parallel to the floor of the chassis among other things not possible with McPhearson. Add the horrendous double ball joint lower arms this platform has and it's impossible to get a heim joint on the tension arm instead of a bushing. It also increases scrub radius and decreases caster while turning on the inside wheel which is the opposite of what you want.
Nice. Love the content and your thoughts on it. I was deciding on the supra or the brz/86 whenever I get back to the states but this video definitely seals the deal with the supra.
Thank you! Supra or GR86 both amazing cars! I want an 86 so bad
The 86 has a lot better fit for a tall driver
Both slow asf, and not a real toyota.
@@MWAclanGaming the first part is subjective the second is factual.
As someone that has zero interest in owning a Supra, this is honestly very interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. Not a fan of the QR steering wheels, personally.
I like your comment ;) thanks for stoppping by
Damn one of the best and honest review Thumbsup..
Thank you so much for saying that! 🙏
Great stuff Vinh. Saving up for this baby. Smiles per mile all the way
Thank you Corey! Manifest it bro! Make it happen.
I think the B58 is going to turn out to be one of those legendary engines in the future. I currently have a M340i and a X3 M40i and soon to replace the M40i with an X3M. Have fun with those my dudes! Also love how you guys embrace the BMW-ness of it all. LOL
Note: The earlier Supra had the B58 variant out of the base X5 s/xdrive 40i and the 540i. The later Supra got the variant out of the M240i, M340i, M440i, X3/4 M40i and Z4 M40i. A 375 HP variant is also used in the X7.
First time watching your video, well put together! My 2021 a91 Supra will get here on Sunday. This video broke down everything I needed to know! 🙏🏼 This will be my first ever sports car !
Great job on the video! I want a supra, but time will tell. Currently still modding my sti and have a blast with it.
Thank you bro! The STI is 🔥🔥
I owned a '21 Supra 3.0 Premium for three years and had zero problems besides occasionally hitting my head getting in and out. Was not a fan of BMW before owning it, but the car changed my mind about them. Traded the Supra in for a new M4 Competition last month and am even happier with that than the Supra. It was a great car to own and you're getting a lot for your money without the BMW upcharge. Go price a Z4 with the same exact features/options and you'll see.
Best review video I've watched so far on this car. Simple and honest! Hoping I can get one myself one day.
Thank Alex!
Encouraging stuff, and hope it's still great two years later! I remember following the development of this car daily from the moment the FT-1 concept came out and the original Supramkv forum started. I was blessed to own a MKIV back then. I still haven't pulled the trigger on this one yet between various life changes since the pandemic, and actually went all-in-one practical on the Korean side with a Kona N (I'm up in Canada and have to deal with Alberta winters), but I've been getting the itch lately, and think I'll be taking more active steps to getting one at some point (my deadline will be if they announce a last year for it). I really appreciate you guys sharing your real world experiences!
New to this channel, and you guy’s laughs just have me cracking lol
keep up the good work!!
Haha thank you!
I want one of those cars one day. Both of you have some awesome Supras can’t wait til I get mine.
Thank you!
You guys are spot-on about so many of these points, both good and bad. Picked up a CPO '21 Nitro Yellow 3.0 Premium with only 3k miles for significantly under MSRP back in October. These can be gotten for reasonable prices!
One quick question: I've been looking for some kind of organizer for the rear hatch. That one you are using at 12:49 looks perfect. What is that?
Congrats on the success of this video man, it’s a great video, really well done
Thanks Jordan!! 🎉
6’1 and 220 here. I get in out of my Daily Viper daily, just part of owning this kind of ride. I am very very excited to grab one.
Have a question- at 3.00 you say 'I couldnt tune mine because its locked'- how do you mean? Does the 2022 Supra genuinely not allow you access to the port, are there ways around it? Think I might take a tuneable lower power over a locked higher power- maybe I misunderstood. Great breakdown video thanks!
Did you find anything?
@stepz1876 I've been trying to research this as well, all I've found so far is that you have to ship your ECU out to a company to get unlocked then you can tune. Which adds a hefty price
Great tips guys especially for the buffeting. Ordering one of these this year thanks!
Love the quality 😍
Thank you bro! Spicing it up a bit!
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2:15 This is because Toyota engineers took the motor and ran it through their reliability test. Lets just say Toyota made BMW redesign lots of parts.
I only had two issues with the Supra when I drove one. Wind buffeting (fixable as they said) and the total lack of feedback through the steering wheel. Felt like playing a video game. Most cars are like that nowadays unfortunately. :( Everything else about the car was great.
After watching this video, I’m glad I started with a halo GR 86 premium. After getting super comfortable with the 86, I might upgrade to the Supra. Love both.
one day ill get one, for now i just gotta stick to the saving grind
Keep grinding bro!
3:00 what does he mean by it being locked..? Never heard of tht before on the mk5
What lip kit and wheel setup does the yellow Supra have? Love the video I’m a Supra owner as well. Keep it up
We’re both running the Maxton Design v2 lip. The yellow Supra is running Titan TS5 wheels I believe
@@vinhgeta yesssir. He knows my car as well as I do. :)
Love the content! Just discovered your channel a couple months ago when I picked up my 22 Supra. Didn’t realize you used to live in Chicago!
Welcome to the channel! Yup moved out to Seattle about 5 years ago
Is the Supra actually faster than an F80? I’m pushing close to 480hp stock. If true, I may be getting a Supra! Great vid. Thanks for mentioning the cost of insurance.
I don't think it is. Mod for mod the s55 makes more hp. But maybe it is due to weight.
Thanks for this info, even though I am a teen rn, I want to save my money up in the future for a supra. Thanks a lot!
I have a wind buffering question. Have you both compared the 2 cars for the wind noise since you both used different products? Do they both work the exact same or does one work better than the other?? Thank you so much.
Both products work really well. One just looks a lot better than the other 😂
@@vinhgeta thanks bud. I appreciate the quick response.
the wheels on the yellow one are fire!!
I got a Camry, and my horn sounds better. Hahaha
LOL im dead 😂😂
Hhaahahahahhahah…
How often do ppl use horns though, i use my high beams more.
@@alexl.102 Man, I use my horn almost every day.
Damn dawg, you've inspired me to get a supra. Currently on the hunt for a white/black b58 premium.
ended up getting a 23 gr m/t supra
Nice video :) I'm lovin my '23 MT, but kinda wish I got the black but they only had Nitro Yellow, and yez, the bugs are garrrbage.
How do you like the manual transmission?
@@vinhgeta it's awesome bro thanks - still only got 550 miles on it, got it factory new, it was almost too notchy at first lol, but it's loosening up as it runs in and it is a dream come true. The downshift is something to die for...
@@_J4CK4L_ I really want to test drive one!
I changed the horn to a set of dual Tundra horns. (High and low note…). Sounds appropriate now. The majority of the rattles were cured by removing the door cards and using some soft side of Velcro. Great car.
Man, I’m super jealous. The supra looks so good in black. Hope you guys are enjoying it!!
Dope jackets! Where’d you guys get them?
Not sure where Jimmy got his from but I got mine from Kith!
Sweet rides, bros! This is a likely contender for my next, now that a 6spd is available.
Hey mate. Love your supra! Such a sick build!
I was wondering if you could share some insights on the difference between the B58B30C (335hp) vs B58B30B (382hp) in terms of its reliability and mod-friendliness as the latter has 6ports vs 2ports on the cylinder head.
Key differences on the cylinder head, manifold, piston and turbo iirc
Also interested on this info 😅
Great review guys! People usually get mad when called BMW Supra because they just can't accept that. Nothing wrong with a BMW, one of the best handling cars ever. But, a BMW Camry, that's hilarious.
Great video, im glad I found your channel! Im actually debating on getting the 2023 8 speed auto Supra. Do you think its a good idea? (the purchase). It would be my first ever off the dealership car. I know people would opt for the 6MT, but I feel like driving stick would be a hassle daily in traffic and whatnot.
If it’s a daily commuter for you, I’d go with the auto. When you put it in manual mode it’s still so much fun! You can’t go wrong with either one!
I mean, it wouldn’t be any more of a hassle than any other manual. Really just personal preference.
I was hesitant at first because I love Toyota engineering, and I’m lukewarm on German cars. However, my 2023 GR Supra changed that because the performance speaks for itself. When people try to sh!t-talk me because “It’s basically a BMW M4”, I simply reply with a smile and “I’m okay with that”.
I’m debating between the gr86 and the Supra 2.0. Any thoughts on the 2.0?
Supra bro
look at Cooper S mods, B48 extremely capable also
I always watch your videos, and you are absolutely right; I just sold my 2016 Bmw F80 m3 and Guess what? 3 weeks later i purchased at 2023 red Gr Supra and i love it. well I just got less than 500 miles on it and i already installed the TJ trunk spoiler and some wheels spacer. Lol 😁🔥
Lol no way!! That’s a big different going from a sedan to a 2 seat coupe! How do you like it? Congrats!
@@vinhgeta I love it, but I still have my 2015 bmw f30 335i which is my Daily. I only drive the Supra on the weekends. Lol👍🏻😁
Would you pickup a manual over the auto today?
That’s a hard question. I’ve owned manual cars all my life and the Supra is actually the first auto. I do not regret it at all! I wouldn’t trade for a manual. Can’t go wrong with either!
@@vinhgeta It is. I've been driving my WRX all throughout NYC traffic and hr long commutes, and I really don't mind it, it's kinda fun actually. But between that and save the manuals, I can see the manual retaining far more value 10 years later. Maybe I might just have to test drive one first haha
Great content and fire cars. I’m more of a civic type r guy but I’m definitely considering Supra for future
I'm glad you kids finally realized how awesome BMW is. It just needed a Toyota badge but now you know! 💪💪💪
Always knew how awesome BMW is 😉
It literally has a Toyota badge. In your logic we might just say that the "McLaren F1 needs McLaren badge" since that has the BMW V12.
Clean video. Nothing bad to say at all. My favorite part was the B-Roll footage.
had the supra but after a year i upgraded to a M3 comp, the oil consumption was a nightmare but other than that no issues.
“Upgraded” 💀
@@foreversolvent5334 yeah upgrade, better engine , and interior. So don’t know why you would something in quotations that is obviously a fact
@A91dan What was the oil consumption issue? Thinking of changing my e90 M3 to the Supra.
@@MumenRider78 on the 2021’s they burned a ridiculous amount of gas. I was adding a quart literallyever 2-3 months. The issue was fixed tho
the aesthetic look of the yellow supra is beautiful
What did he say about his supra not being able to be modded
ECU is locked for certain year on MKV Supra that u gotta send it elsewhere to clone.
@@f80_dann bro do you never sleep lol
LOL
@@jimmygimbal damn haha
@@f80_dann What you talking about? I am trying to get a Supra, can you explain more about that?
Great review! I love these cars and if I can swing it, I'll be getting the 2024 model. Probably not in black! Lol
Haters are here and they won’t go away lol 😂!! LOSERS. Love your video brother, those b58 engines are no joke and there so easy and cost effective to upgrade. You could easily bump up your engine to 600hp safely with just bolts on and tuned. Nice setup on those supra 👍👍
thank you bro! I appreciate the positivity! I'm going to just keep enjoying my car :)
@@vinhgeta indeed 🤜
Nothing to worry about. When the warranty go's out, I will drill my own holes for real vents.
I like old model supra then newer supra. Too much stuff under the hood. Supra is Supra.
Love the older Supras too!
6’3 and 220 i fit well in my Supra. Love that I can adjust the bolstering all depending on how many tacos I’ve had.
LOL tacos 😂 that’s awesome man!
I had mixed feelings about the GR Supra from the start. Probably because of the partnership with BMW vs doing a complete in-house option like Nissan. I guess the first place to start is how most of the power train and essential components are akin to the Z4. While not bad, the m4 or m235 could have been a more solid place to begin. There's also the issue of engine reliability. It's all fun and games until we are the victim of the "Hello, friend" meme, and I genuinely haven't seen a reliable BMW engine since the e30 4 cylinder. Heck the Lotus Evora/Exige supercharged 6 (which is off of a Camry btw) with a BMW sourced transmission could have been a cheaper and more reliable choice. The second thing I nitpick is the design. It feels similar to the Lexus "predator" aesthetic in the shape of a Z4 coupe. If it paid homage to mkiv in the way the 2005 mustang to the 1965, I would have a softer heart. Let me know what you think.
I think that the MKIV looks nothing like the MK1, 2 or 3. People expecting the V to look like a car designed 25 years prior ... are not thinking.
@@smog-097 true, but it would be nice if it looked less like a Lexus. Sort of like how you can tell a Chevy from a Cadillac. I think that's what I was thinking of.
@@jared5437"looked less like a Lexus"
Literally the MK4 A80 Supra came from the Lexus SC 400/300 Coupe (and the 300 has the 2JZ. Long before the existince of the Supra A80 MK4). Go figure
Keep in mind that BMW is the exact company that let McLaren (British) use their V12 engines in their McLaren F1.
Love the videos man. From Chicago and planning on getting the new Supra, maybe next year!
B58 = 3JZ
Lol brooo you’re going to us in trouble
@@vinhgeta Hell with the others.....they fail to realize that the JZ engines didn't start in the Supra. It started in the Toyota Artisto (2JZ).
Thank you so much guys for telling us of how good Toyota Supra is ! I wish to purchase it someday in the future. Hopefully , soon! I enjoyed watching this video it gives me lots of emotions of how good Supra is ! Wow ! That so incredible ! 😊🎉 I think I love Supra now! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊😊😊
Thats a BMW not a supra sorry
Classic comment
Much insightful
10:18 Don't they have jbl speakers as an option?
Awesome! I was just thinking about trading my S4 in for a Supra, or an M2... just have not decided yet until I came across this channel. I live in the Bellevue area as well, so it's always supra cool to see some TH-camrs from my area. Right on, great video guys. @ 4:17 looks like the Sammamish area. :)
Okay about the sound system. Yes, it's not as good as other cars, but you absolutely have to go into the settings and tune it. It actually has a really good tuner for a stock radio with, I think, 9 different channels. Once you do that it actually becomes great
Great video, thank you! Looking forward to buying my supra soon
"The haters are only on the internet"
FACTS! Lmao
-1 week old Supra owner :D
Congrats the Supra!
f82 M4 is still my Love❤️, nothing can replace it. Those eyes just kills from miles away.
Vinh!!!! Wtf lol didn’t know you did TH-cam! It’s Yanko btw! Congrats dude keep it up G!!!!
ayyyy! thanks you bro. hope you're doing well!
@@vinhgeta yea doing well with 3 kids now lol. Your Supra is sick btw!👌🏼
I hated them until I seen 1 in person. Now I cant wait for my promotion to kick in so I can go and get my own Supra.
Nice video and nice cars. I was stationed in Everett, and although Washington is a beautiful state, I don't miss it too much. But I do miss your coffee stands.
Love the video man. Where did you get that BMW jacket? It’s 🔥
It’s a Kith x BMW collaboration piece!
looking at one now, my wife needs a car that she can learn how to drive and i can have fun at the same time! nice! thanks!
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