15 Annoying Things Stopping Me From Loving the MK5 Toyota Supra - Buyer's Remorse?
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After daily driving my 2021 A90 MK5 Toyota Supra for several weeks, I realized there are some things I hate about the car. While some of these things may come off as small and forgettable, they all add up the more you drive the car.
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15 is alot dammm
Originally had 20 on my list 🥴
6’2 here 170 lbs only complaint is the limited adjustability of the seat when I go to sleep in my car on my work shifts. I’ve learned to look at the lights on the side of the traffic pole when I’m at the front. Coming from a Camry which had majority of the features that VV mentioned, I have no regrets in trading it in. I daily drive the Supra and I’ve learned to live with it.
You gotta be really tired to fall asleep on these seats 😂
I learned that in the Supra, staying back from the crosswalk usually gives you enough visibility to see the traffic lights.. I drive 18 wheelers and even in the tractor i can’t see the lights if there’s no cross walk and I pull up too close.
Need a new video on unpractical new enthusiasts cars like your older style of vids would be refreshing. Loved this btw
This is probably my first time watching someone make a video on this because this stuff doesn’t usually get addressed. The car yt ik just buy the car and slap a widebody and tune on it
Thanks…….I appreciate these highlights
Definitely appreciate this video. It was really helpful to make a decision to buy a Supra. Especially the non syncing climate control and the lack of visibility. You were 100% about not being able to see the traffic lights. Still got it though. Keep up the good work on the channel!
Dude, that's way too many complaints. It's a sport car. Buy a Chevy Tahoe or something like that if you are looking for space or comfort...
Another thing for trunk by my friend's supra is, if you push the button then slap the door, the trunk will be locked by your slap lol. Also, the wireless will make the phone really hot.
However, he says BMW makes it part of the reasons he bought supra. BMW is good at getting performance,.Otherwise, we can imagine Toyota will make the supra "relatively old" for that era like LFA.
All legitimate gripes honestly. I have an A91 manual on order that will be here next month and none of those things are dealbreakers. Most cars have annoying features, especially German cars.
Congrats man! I'm sure the 6 speed variety will be much more enjoyable.
I dont own a Supra (I really want one though) but I have recently test drove one for the first time and I definitely agree with a lot of these for sure. Getting out of the vehicle is definitely a task LOL. And I'm a small dude (5'8 180lbs). The visibility is a bit poor..I used to own an 18' Mustang GT and for that to be such a big car, it still had PLENTY of visibility. The supra does not. Also, I definitely hate the lack of storage. As bad as I want one, I have considered possibly purchasing something else. Time will tell.
Im in the same boat. I wish they would have incorporated a bit of the gr86 interior design. It seems like the supra got all the bad bmw interior perks. Test driving it, I did not feel like I was in a 60k car. I've always wanted a supra, but I feel like I may regret trading away my 86.
Same, i felt embarassed getting out of it leaning on the hips of the supra and i live where i have a small parking garage, i had no issues with my GTR
The wireless charger had me in tears lmaoo
Can't you Beemer code to turn off the auto start stop reseting?
I think u can easily do that. My vw did exactly the same thing always rebooting the auto start stop and once it was coded, never turned on again
Yes definitely always the first thing I do
if you get bimmer code you can code out the fake car sounds and then adjust the settings of the speakers and it will sound much better thats what i did. You can also save the auto start off on bimmer code. I also did the reverse mirror because its almost useless stock
Only real complaints I hear. 1. Buffeting window 2. Visibility/Space (debatable, most buyers are not as tall) Everything else is just random things that you found to just complain about. People who buy this arent looking for a practical car and you're constantly looking for considering your history with BMWs which are just actual practical cars with more power.
The main issue with the speakers is surround sound, it’s usually turned on, when it’s on there’s absolutely no bass, just treble, equalizing it plus turning off surround sound makes it sound really good, I agree, most things he’s saying are easily fixable aside from the poor visibility, buffeting is a 10 dollar fix
The no Sync button drives me crazy and I have a BMW M4 😂 maybe that’s what the took the controls out of
Such a shame that so many cars are built by committees, and they end up just not working out. And, they don't learn! So many of the problems have been in other cars over the years, but every generation of engineers ignores the failures of the past, and so, are condemned to repeat them Thank you so much for letting me know to avoid this car like the plague, your video saved me days of tracking down a supra and then being disappointed when I found one.
Need more E30 content!
E92 has the best room for large drivers lol
I’m just under 6 foot. I get in the car backwards and roll in. Especially getting out I swing my feet around and stand up facing the trunk. Saved my neck. The seat needs to adjusted so the bolstering gives your spine proper alignment otherwise it will not be comfortable. The auto start stop doesn’t bother me but if when you are coming to a stop you throw it manual mode it won’t stop then you can shift up or throw it back it auto when you take off. Or put it in sport mode as that cancels it out too
Exposed screen could possibly take a glare resistant screen protector 🤔 Your thoughts Cristian?
Yeah, that might do the trick.
11:30 Your 15 reasons why? Bro no it ain't worth it! Hahaha.
All valid complaints. Personally, I don't think I'd ever get this gen of Supra.
I think this is a great review regarding what you dislike. I actually just got on the list for a Supra but I personally would never consider a car like this as a daily driver. My intentions for this car is strictly fun/weekend driving. It's cramped, as I am 6'1" and between 215-240lbs depending on my training regiment. But I think it will be livable as a toy, not a DD. Love your videos man! 👍
My friend had the same complaints
I'm a Toyota guy, i've owned nothing but Toyota, even trucks. But I still want one. Yes it's BMW parts, but Toyota has inspected, reviewed and adjusted every single part as necessary to bring it up to Toyota standards, before putting it into their car. Toyota wouldn't just take BMWs parts and blindly put them in considering they still have a reputation to keep. The sales of an unreliable Supra would be more damaging to Toyota's reputation and would not be worth any profits they would make on it.
Can’t wait for the MT. B58 powahh.
2 of the 15 are relatable, steering wheel and the hard to see display- all the others.. its a sports car
This gonna get some viewsssss
Lots of stuff NOBODY else addressed . This is why some folks dump the car after a year .
They don't design them like they actually use them. The screen is a prime example. I live in Vegas and drove a buddy's couldn't see shit on the screen.
Get Bimmercode or at least look into it. It's super cheap and super easy to do. You spend over 50,000 on car but won't take 30 minute to fix things you don't like is just wack. You can fix, auto start stop, sync climate, car chimes, seat belt reminder, start in sport mode, make the display WAY brighter, turn off the warning on the head unit, and many more things. May favorite change I made is the chime when I open the door is set to a Rolls Royce door chime. Also another big change is you can change the angle of the mirror when reversing.
Of course I'm familiar with coding options, I've covered videos on that in the past.. But let's be honest, most people aren't here coding their cars.
I set mine to the Rolls Royce door chime soooo much better then the loud PTSD inducing bmw chime😂
@@VehicleVirals I agree with your statement and I think thats unfortantate. I would also like to note that just because those issues can be coded out, doesn't mean that changes the validity of the problems. They shouldn't be there to beggin with.
Love your content brooooo
4:30 what if its like tht incase u decide to remove the bar in the future
Removing a rear brace like that would reduce rigidity close to 30-40%. Not many will make that sacrifice.
Nice vid bro
Wow! some people are REALLY whiny! If you have to complain about things like that, then you dont really have real problems in your life!
You can sync the climate control from the menu in the iDrive - that’s how it works in my Z4
I wonder if the AC synch is the same as Lexus and not a physical button but a “dual” option in the climate menu
Don't think so.
200hp automatic transmission never looked so fast!!!
That brace bar is easily removeable my guy. I'm also 5'9" and 370 lbs and i can fit without removing the bar (although i might still)
wireless charger is more of tender rather then a charger the apple carplay consusme quite alot battary so the wirelesss charger is kind of just there to help offset some of the load.
I'm hoping all of these are just nit picks. I get some of them but others. Start stop, Bimer code and fix that. The trunk opening, get a stronger struts to pop the trunk open for you. Your seat, the leather is creaking not the bar. If you think your seat cand break it lol the it's not structural... meaning it's only there for the cover for the hatch. Remove it, but beware cover might not work anymore. We can see you love the car lol
The sync button in the BMW💀💀💀
neither did the pre lci g80 and g82's you have to go in idrive to Sync the climate zones
A lot of BMWs don't have climate control sync on my e92 I just put a rubber band around both knobs.
Well E9X platform is a bit too old to compare. But the rubber band trick is sweet!
My 2015 4 series doesn't have a sync
I ended the video after the first complaint was: My hands are too big to get change out of the side pocket. My man, life has got to be hard for you.
It's a terrible design. My hands are not that big.
Will anyone “reconsider buying” a Supra because the side pockets are too small? Replace Supra with Sienna and you are correct! Perhaps minivan or family sedan reviews would be a more natural fit? I would like to see how child seats fit as that would be another consideration for the Supra demographic. I’m just giving you shit. You point out true things. I just think they are irrelevant. You do a nice job and I actually subscribed.
Remember, we think of the Supra as a BMW because it has MANY things from BMW. It’s still a Toyota branded product at the end of the day. I think the synced AC system is just something BMW didn’t give Toyota “just cause”.
Correct. It's probably why I was so critical of the Supra. Because I kept thinking BMW.
@@VehicleVirals Curious if the Z4 have this problems 🤔
I really hope Toyota is taking notes from your video, need them to fix everything you mentioned. 😅
I got in the Supra at a car show lol and my knees were up against the steering column.
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Harman Kardon is JBL btw xoxoxo, they just used cheaper speakers, dont judge by brand!
My moms 2014 base model x5 has all the features you’re complaining about🤣bmw might be done for
340i doesnt have a sync button!!! Which also bothers me!
You can tell by the design, that it was meant for a larger platform, not a Z4
another 2 reasons:
no dipstick & electronic e brake
Oh shit thats where the trunk button lol... used the key fob all this time
BMW didn't want the supra to be better and have more quality of life features than the z4, so they made the interior as subpar as possible while annoying us with the auto start stop feature lol.
I hope they have flat bottom steering wheel for some sporty feel and looks. My SUV has bettter loookin steering wheel than this
With all this will pursuade me buying supra ? Nope! I’d still buy it and replace my FRS TRD 86 with this in next gen supra. People have different take and view into cars but guaranteed theirs still people gonna love and buy it no matter what.
You mean 15 things I don’t like about my BMW 340i*
Z4*
@@ninjastriker0137 wdym it has a b58
@@whoareyou551 the b58 is in literally available in nearly all of BMWs cars AND SUVs
Slap on a anti glare screen protector for the screen
And yes, please tell us what you like about the Supra? 👊
F30's dont offer a sync button.. not in my 2018 340i aleast.
Not in my F32 either
Kinda happy I didn’t find a good deal when I was looking for a Supra. It’s still a good platform for those looking for great performance. Worse place to input this, but I’ll settle for a Z instead 😉
Just make sure you fit right. If you're over six feet tall or over 250lbs you might find it a little too tight while the supra is more forgiving of a few extra pounds.
Yeah, just keep pushing the seat recline button as the seat creaks against the support bar. BRILLIANT! Complete chick move.😂
Complete chick move to not have a stopping point when reclining the seats back. Great design 👌🏼
Don't like the tesla plug but good vid
I was honestly contemplating on trading my 2020 STI in for the new manual Supra but all the complaints you had in this video, I checked off on my STI so now I'm contemplating keeping it😭
the sti is garbage... got rid of my 2018 after 1 year lol. bad on gas, slow as hell too... also so risky modding the thing with the ringlands.
@@Eric-qx7fg i can see that but it's a great feel to drive car and every car loses reliability after modding and the STI has a bunch of options. Def a lot of cars out there that's faster and way better on gas but can't beat that analog driving feel and awd in the snow/dirt 🥶
How many air fresheners do you need lol
15 reasons why I love my m5 😂🤣
Change AGM BATTERY with classic and start stop will no longer be awalible
I've owned my Mark V supra over a year no and i would agree with the lack of trunk button and low slung windshield gets old. I'm 5'7 so the seat thing don't bother me and the sync button either. You can find better settings for the sound system and fixes for the sub box to get more bass.. I've done both and completely changes the sound and you have some actual base. Toyota's aren't know for great sound systems so I'm gonna guess this was on them not bmw. Sucks you have to alter it to make it have better sound but i see that no different than adding an exhaust. Doing some work to make sound better. The lack of storage thing doesn't bother me either cause i bought a small sports car it was just expected to have crappy storage. Sync button don't matter either cause your in a small car and AC works great and will have the small cabin cool extremely fast. I'm in Florida also and Sync button has never been something It needs IMO. Buffeting can be fixed cheap $9 or expensive $150, I've done both and more expensive fixes work better and eliminate the buffeting completely. I'm Sure your nitpicking for the video and you do great content. I Love my Supra never owned a Toyota or wanted one until BMW made it lol. Its such a great sports car that can do everything. Oh get the ECU unlocked and put a E50 Flex fuel tune on it and you wont care about the lack of storage or sync button. Great Video!!!
By fixes are you referring to like the foam padding etc?
All these bad points but yet you clearly still have the supra 🤣 must have some love for it 🤔
6:20 let me show you how the sound is while I dont mute the background track 😁
You were watching with headphones weren't you? 👀
Pretty fair reasons imo. I like some BMW, escpecially the old ones, and i also love the older toyotas. Tho this car surelly isnt for me. One thing I hear everytime: "Tuneability" wich might be right for sure... tho where the F do you wanna put it, if the engines way to big for its short design?
Not sure how you can miss that behemoth of a nose, the car is short in length everywhere, EXCEPT the engine bay, plus if you’ll buy a turbo, wouldn’t it be down, maybe, where the downpipes would be? 😂
Complaining about low ride height and visibility, cup holders... Maybe coupes not your thing. I heard Buicks have great visibility
OBD Link CX fixed the dim screen. Really bright now. Also sets it to start in sport, and Auto start in off position. I love the quirky-ness of my '21'. It’s a sports car, not a sedan, for storing things. Maybe you should have test driven it first?
asking for a single usable storage compartment on the driver's door isn't a tall order. being a sports car isn't an excuse for poor engineering...
So sell it to me, im right here in orlando lol
Nothing like the mk4 should’ve been a different name instead of mk5 lol
hhmm Over Priced Popcan with wheels is what your saying..
My only reason why I would not buy 2021 Toyota supra that it has a Toyota logo. Can you imagine buying clothing made buy Versace designers for full Versace retail price and it will have a logo Adidas.
That is how I would feel buying bmw supra with logo Toyota.
And there is no good logo swap option to get rid of the Toyota logo. Bmw logo would not fit there right
Funny story. I was at Prada the other day and saw an Adidas Collab shoe in their show room. Looked like a basic classic Adidas sneaker with a Prada logo on the back 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@VehicleVirals ahahahah good one. Well I guess it is a thing nowadays when high end brand collabs with mass market brands
Trase you my 400whp FK8 if the Supra bothers you. Lol. Id preder a manual though.
Good thing I’m only 5’ 8”. Literally most your issues are b/c you’re taller lol.
You should buy a Grand Marquis…..plenty of visibility and simple climate controls, OH and lots of compartments for your change. 🤣😭😂🤪
Why is storage even on this list? lol its literally the known Bane of all Coupes, especially sports cars, anyone look for a sports coupe isnt buying it to add weight... anyone looking for storage should be checking sedans
2020 $40k hyundai ioniq has more tech features and DCT. lol
Supra is badass still though
JBL and Harmon Kardon are the same company
Do you still have the car or sold ? !!
Have it.
Am a diehard car guy owned 6 at one point , if you want to kill a watch brand like ap rolex or any big brand have them sell a watch that is entirely made from another company , both bmw fans and Toyota fans should of never ever bought this car and made Toyota really know how big of a mistake this is , can't wait for the new Nissan z to come out in Canada , don't make ur self any excuses or make others do , don't matter how the car looks , it's a shameeeeeee, I rather get me a decent e46 m3 and tune the hell out of hit for that 60 grands
Okay. Not like toyota and bmw are the first companies to collab. Enjoy your Z with a 20 year old chassis.
the analogy with the watch company is totally false , swatch did not destroy omegas brand for example, on the contrary it bring more sales to the real speedmaster, so it just brings more attention to the brand nothing else
Looks as small as an nd miata. Auto only and will probably be much slower when it gets a manual
What people don't realize is is basically a z4 with a body kit. Traditionally z4 have not been the best car in the lineup.
I guess what I'm saying is BMW doesn't make a full blown sports cars they make. Great handling and fast coupes and sedans.
so you know it's about the chassis
@@JoePepo it is the same chassis. Hello.
Different suspension tuning .
Lol JBL and Harmon Kardon is the same company!
So is Rolls Royce and BMW. Which one is more luxurious?
@@VehicleVirals your have an a good point. Because I know the brand "Harman" well, they're are the same just marketed different.
I'd much rather have an M240i than a Supra, the damn thing is just too small with crap visibility.
Me as well, the m240i isn't even much heavier either I think around 150lbs
@@cartere9981 the Xdrive (AWD) M240i is just under 3900lbs…
I hate the screen sticking up above the dash. It is blocking visibility for short people. The cardboard rear wheel well liner looks hard to clean. No hand brake, and no stick. And sports cars are made for little people. A race car driver is not 6" tall and over 150 pounds. Its like a fat horse jockey complaining about his horse hearing you tall guys complain.
What's the best way to ruin a BMW? Let Toyota screw around with one. Best thing about the Supra is the B58. If you want a proper sports car just buy the Z4 m40i.
Yet the z4 only still exists because of the supra collab. Not to mention has lower sale numbers.
On paper versus Reality.
Bro this why I don't like this car it's not the engine only it's almost everything. Also the fake vents. The car overheat in my country so easily
Not sure why you bought this with all the things you don’t like! This car is made for cool girls anyway!
😂
You know, I want to like it, but I just don't. Its ugly and has questionable design decisions. They tried to make the FT1 without the FT1. And it doesn't work. Its too short of a car. I feel like its half baked which is a shame because mechanically the car is a beast.
Lol I love mine regardless
My frs has more room.
Number 7 is just a coding thing tho
Not everyone is out there coding their cars.
Mk5 just looks "OFF" IMO. Everything else is is fine, because BMW perfected the Z4 before letting Toyota slap their brand on an already established platform.
Christian you just messed up the toyota supra for me
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I remember making a lot of these same complaints. Man, did I get so much hate from the Zupra fanboys. Lol
So did I
Most of these are nit picky asf😂
Yikes this car not looking so hot, my mazdaspeed3 has none of these issues lmao