2023 Kia Stinger GT(2) Elite - $55k CDN Lap3 ECU + TCU - $5k CDN Secondary downpipes - $800 CDN Intakes - $400 CDN $61.2k CDN (~$46k USD) for a fully loaded Stinger that can keep up with or beat a base $99k CDN MSRP Audi RS5 Sportback is a pretty good deal. (142,000km on my Stinger and it’s still reliable and runs low-mid 11s)
Before they started selling only the GT2, you could get a GT Stinger for ~15k less than a GT2 which opens this bang for your buck gap even more. Such a good value
@@erich1308keep smoking copium kids, this is literally under 2k if not 1k of mods in the stinger if you do it yourself/know what parts to get and how to tune it not waste your time
@@zport44 first roll race won audi s5 with 450hp that rs5 has some issues for sure or and driver reaction times are bad. On drags s5 was walking on rs5 with 80hp less
Hello all! Stinger owner here. 1st, a big thank to Sam for making this happen, I had a great time. Rolling races: Very difficult to line up 3 cars. We were instructed to roll at 50km/h in 2nd gear and floor it at the cones. The S5 was way behind us and needed to accelerate way before the cones to lineup, so he was starting the roll race at a much faster speed than me and the RS5. On the 2nd roll race, the RS5 started before the cones so he was ahead of us right from the start. Drag races: Both races, we started at about the same time. It was not a cool day and the wind was not helping. The track is unprepped and very bumpy. I usually run 11.2's and a 3.3 0-60. I had run against an EV6 GT a couple of times right before, then the rolling races, so my car was starting to be hot. But the RS5 definitely had issues. He was basically running same times as stock at the end. My best this year is a 11.1 at 123mph. We were all running a bit slower there that day. It was fun to race and meet other people passionate about cars. Cheers!
Yes Normaly A Stock RS5 needs 3,9Sec to 60mph so i would have assumed more hp would lead to better time. I guess they installed something that made the car heavier resulting into 4sec. Still kind of a waste of money if there is no improvement.
I need an explanation, these results make no sense... maybe the RS was driving in comfort mode or something cause theres not way... even the S5 was giving it the business
S5 owner here! had a lot of fun. The Kia Stinger was on meth which is probably equivalent / more close & fair to the S5 (me) on Ethanol, unfortunately for this race I was just on regular pump gas but all credits to the Stinger and it's very humble owner it was quick! As for the RS5, i'm not too sure what was up with that. Maybe the owner wasn't driving it right or maybe the tune itself wasn't the best. It was a custom tune I believe and for these RS5's IE & 034 tend to be the only tunes that are really good for these cars and ECC Thank's Sam for the invite looking forward to more
@@Jweiss76 you do need a tune. Otherwise you will even potentially lose power because your engine is specifically tuned for those intakes and if your going to change them to the cold air ones then you should get a tune.
Good job by the Kia. But, something is wrong with the RS5's tune. A stock RS5 will run the 12.1 reported in this video. The RS5 does suffer from severe heat soak and if the heat exchanger isn't upgraded with the tune, that could be the culprit.
Have to agree here. Hard to believe that’s a stage 2 RS5. Maybe heat soak but I ran consistent 11.8-11.9 stock. The RS5 launches well but traps lower stock when compared to its competition.
@@pbmcgme176 11.9 is it's ideal figure, normal time is 12.1, and heat soak time will be 12.3-12.5. Stage 2 will take it down to 12 in this scenario. Also the heavier rims...
Stinger gt2 owner .....engine tuned by BMW M division cast-off Albert Bierman and designer Peter Schreyer came from AUDI ....GERMAN BUILT with a Korean badge ......VERY solid vehicle ❤
The Stinger just continues to impress after all of the years you've had it on your channel in base and tuned forms. It is truly remarkable that one of the biggest cars in its class, while also being one of the heaviest, continues to defy logic, all while being 10-20K less than the Germans. That drag race run was pretty epic. Glad to finally see a Lap3 tuned Stinger on the channel running meth.
To be fair something is wrong with that rs5 it was slower then stock 🤣 but the stinger is a beast with some tuning done 😆 at like half the price of the others
@@mcwendel8066seriously... Either the driver was a noob or he needs to take it into maintenance. Plus for a stock car at 444hp, à stage 2 should put it extremely close to 600hp. I don't think that was a true stage 2 RS5.
@@nonamenoname4641 I have a 2019 rs5 with a stage one chip. It has about 500-510 Hp. If that has a stage 2 it would have blown both of them away. Seems weird.
This is awesome! Great stuff all the way around. Almost bought a S5 liftback that was already modded pretty heavily - intakes, turbo-back exhaust, custom ECU tune and OTS TCU tune, was running 3.0sec 0-60 and 10.9 1/4ths... Right as I got the loan secured and reached out, the seller had already done the deal. With that said, bought my 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD for $38,000 at 39,990 miles first week of August '22, and as of writing I'm at 63,300 miles and I have loved every second with this car. BMS intakes, JB4, IMRacing catless Midpipes and MBRP exhaust. Hang with and beat a lot of cars I should have no business being with, it's been a great time. Super reliable too, as long as you do your maintenance right and follow/beat Kia's recommended care. Coming up on time to swap injectors and transmission, differential fluids, etc. The best part? Aside from it's small fuel tank, it's an amazing roadtrip car. Doesn't matter if it's just me going 500 miles in a day or I've got my squad with me with luggage for 4 of us on a 4 day weekend- I'm getting anywhere between 27-32mpg dependent on ambient temps, how much I have in the car, and my average speed. Just me in the car going 72mph with nothing more than a suitcase and backpack, I've seen 32-33mpg over 350 miles (car is rated 25mpg on the highway). Lots of storage for luggage, lots of room for passengers that are not giants, and amenities to ensure everybody can keep their phones charged and stay comfortable on long rides. People can hate on Kia all they want (calling out half the car scene in Memphis), but the Stinger's been an phenomenal car to own and one day hope to see forged motors, built transmissions and diffs, and to see this car become what the GTR has to the car community.
You drove 20,000+- in a year? How often do you have to get serviced and do you go through a Kia dealership for oil change and maintenance? I really want to buy one because they look like amazing cars but I'm scared of buying something that's been driven hard.
I would be curious as to who tuned the RS5 as the big names like IE and 034 do not have a stage 2 for the rs5 and stage 1 e85 makes more power than what's listed in the video. Also whats up with the zoom in the RS5 cant see anything captain.
Both IE has stage 2 and 034 has one coming soon. Stage 2 just doesn’t have a huge power bump over stage 1. The stock turbos don’t have a lot of headroom
@@Turtle-sz7sk the stock turbos have quite a lot of headroom. They can trap 130+ MPH. I wouldn’t be surprised to see RS5s in the low 10s in a few months
the biggest surprise for me is that stinger gt! 11.5 quarter mile time is crazy for a car only rated at around 385hp from the factory, just a tune and a few bolt ons its in the 11s.. impressive for a 4 door car!
Even just a conservative, mild tune on the Stinger will make a stock stinger feel slow in comparison. And a stock Stinger is decently quick. The potential of these is incredible. The 3.3tt engine in these has proved to be very reliable. I've been on the Stinger forums nearly everyday for years now and very rarely hear of issues with that engine, let alone it blowing up. The few instances I have heard of since 2018 were almost always from people going in and modifying a jb4 custom style tune with no idea what they were doing.
Stinger owner here. When my car had time to cool down, I did a run against the tuned M340i and we were door to door for the whole 1/4 mile. My car usually runs 11.2's at around 123mph.
As a stinger owner. There was definitely something wrong with the RS5. Rs5 should’ve at least taken the drag in my opinion. Still crazy that the stinger gapped them like that.
@@andrewthach1989 A stock RS5 will run high 11's low 12's with a stage 2 tune no way in hell should that thing be in the 12's.. Either something seriously wrong with that RS5 or that driver needs to have his license revoked.
Such a great video! This motivated me a year ago to buy my stinger. Audi is to credit for the birth of the stinger. Without their head engineers working together with Kia there wouldnt be a stinger. Such a great car, 60k miles no issues just regular maintenance!
What is that RS5 tuned with because that’s performing like stock. I’m tuned on e85 stage 1+ with TCU tune to match on IE and run 10.85 @126mph and those other cars aren’t touching 10’s without turbo upgrades
@@viru52000 what are you trying to say? Don't worry about weight reduction bc the stinger is a sport back and heavy? My guy you are on a TH-cam video of 3 modified street cars racing.
It was not a cool day and wind was not helping. I had done many runs before that take. Car was hot, track was unprepped and bumpy. My best is 11.1, but usually run 11.2-.3 at 122-124mph.
@dj1nnie Very difficult to align 3 cars at the same speed and to all hit the gas at the same time. On the first roll, the S5 was way behind and started to accelerate before the cone to line up but at the cones, he was at 80km/h and I was at 50km/h... like instructed. On the 2nd race, the RS5 jumped and started to accelerate before the cones. 1/4 mile doesn't lie as we were all all wheel drive cars and started fairly.
Stinger owner here, from Quebec as well. Lap3 ECU 2.5/TCU 2.0 + Stage 4 Meth Injection, Injen intakes, Jun BL secondaries + catback, UP intercooler w/charge pipe, and more. I can confirm the near-3-second drags are very achievable with launch control, and the world record is 2.8 if I'm not mistaken. It's such a great car because even with all the mods, it's still cheaper than a stock S5 Sportback (it costs about 25k CAD$ + tax more) -- I know, I almost bought that one instead. Something to think about when comparing all these cars. Best decision I've made car-wise.
On the roll races, it looks like the Kia transmission was slow, or the turbo had some lag, or the type of tuning was a bit off, however; every single time towards the finish line, it was coming back with a vengeance. A car that did not get a lot of respect, showing that it has earned it!
The issue with tuning those Audi’s is the “torque management” programming in their TCU’s. They don’t allow full torque in first 2 gears. This cannot be overridden in TCU flashes/updates. This is to prevent damage to the auto box. Same with Audi/VW DSG’s…although, they’re slightly more restricted to prevent damage to the clutches. I’m not sure if the Stinger has any restrictions in it’s TCU or not.
@@Tsand4 - The torque management system is a built in safeguard to prevent damage to the transmission. The ZF8 and all DSG’s have it, and it cannot be overridden. Ask any tuner/company on the market, if you’d prefer further verification. And BTW…launch control doesn’t mean you get full torque. Most launch control systems are designed around getting the most power/torque possible without breaking traction, whilst attempting to prevent damage to the drivetrain. I’ve worked as a automotive software engineer previously. You’re arguing with the wrong person here 🙄
@@matthewwood4756 I know exactly what torque management is lol……..stingers have them too. But how can tuned S4/5s pull 1.50 60ft times if this torque management is so aggressive like you say it is? Do you understand that they specifically have a TCU tune on all of the Audi tuners to specifically higher the torque limits during launch?lol
@@Tsand4 - TCU tunes allow higher torque limits, but in first/second gear, full engine torque is still not permitted (and cannot be overridden) in the ZF8/DQ250/DQ500 (and their derivatives). Launch control is not about allowing maximum torque. It’s a compromise between power/torque/traction relative to each specific vehicle/drivetrain. Specific gear ratios/final drive ratios/rim/tire sizes/etc all have an influence on the times/speeds off the line. Again, as mentioned previously…you can easily verify the TCU restrictions from any tuner/company that deals with VAG tuning.
@@matthewwood4756 obviously no manufacturers allow maximum torque/boost during launch. But your acting like Audi is limiting it to no boost on launch or somthing when in reality in bone stock OEM form Audi specifically the b9 platform builds quite a bit of boost on launch. About 50%…all of the Germans allow a good amount of torque on launch even oem. The stinger/g70 literally build zero boost using oem LC. And the TCU tune allows for around maybe 5lbs of boost on launch. Also both Audis should have the advantage here from a dig as there tuning companies have way more R&D in there platforms compared to the g70/stinger. They have specific launch control maps with there zf tcu tunes etc………the stinger TCU tune pretty much just let’s you build boost on launch and quicker shifts.
There's something wrong with that RS5 or the driver. I've owned a 2019 RS5 Sportback (same as in this video) and now a 2022 RS5 Sportback. I also live in the same area as these races take place. Both my RS5s have run far better times and they are STOCK! No slicks, no prepped surfaces. Something was obviously not right in this race. Great race though, and shows all the cars have great tuning potential!
I was going to say the same. The RS5 runs 3.6 0-60 from the factory, how is it even running slower with a tune? They must have not been launching correctly.
All over these Euro's on youtube have RS5's getting stomped by everything. Yet I stomp on everything in my stage 1 RS5 these videos are silly and there has to be some financial motivation/sponsorship behind the scenes, the times they are showing make no sense.
Love the Stinger always thought it was a cool car, but I think something was wrong with the RS5. A stock RS5 does high 11s. I have a stock RS5 comp and it does mid 11s.
True car enthusiasts doesn’t hate it! Only the uneducated one with no cars/video game racers/truck drivers. Period l! There’s plenty real enthusiasts switched to Kia from popular platforms! Most haters you see usually from village with very limited internet
Both roll races the cars started ahead of the stinger a whole car yet it was reeling them back in. Guys need to learn to roll race and line them up better stinger would've won.
One camera 15 different views roll races are start whenever you want to. I don’t know if it’s the accuracy of the drivers or what but somethings off not just in this race but I trust camisa or wow car a little more.
2023 Kia Stinger GT(2) Elite - $55k CDN
Lap3 ECU + TCU - $5k CDN
Secondary downpipes - $800 CDN
Intakes - $400 CDN
$61.2k CDN (~$46k USD) for a fully loaded Stinger that can keep up with or beat a base $99k CDN MSRP Audi RS5 Sportback is a pretty good deal.
(142,000km on my Stinger and it’s still reliable and runs low-mid 11s)
Well done! Way to represent!
Before they started selling only the GT2, you could get a GT Stinger for ~15k less than a GT2 which opens this bang for your buck gap even more. Such a good value
I’m mind blown how bad the gap was on those digs 🤯
*bad for Audi lmao
Sorry for the noob question, but do all of those modifications affect the warranty?
No easy feat going against a tuned Audi, much props to Kia…….great race!
With meth....and most hp of all...Where's the glory?
Although the Kia was tuned with almost 100HP more than the RS5.
Audi was barely tuned, the KIA had 10x the mods and still not nearly the machine.
@@erich1308keep smoking copium kids, this is literally under 2k if not 1k of mods in the stinger if you do it yourself/know what parts to get and how to tune it not waste your time
@@redditmanllegnisthebirdofh9887 the ecu tune itself without the tcu tune is $1500 lol.
I love the stinger videos
Got 147,000 miles on my stinger gt1 and still pulls strong everytime. Great car and very reliable.
Pretty sweet bro! Looks to be a reliable platform!
Stinger dominated the drags, almost didn’t look fair
Would love to see this stinger vs a modded Nissan Z
Stinger would have eaten them on the rolls to, but the rs5 started like 2 cars infront 🤣
@@zport44 highly accurate
@@zport44 first roll race won audi s5 with 450hp that rs5 has some issues for sure or and driver reaction times are bad. On drags s5 was walking on rs5 with 80hp less
Rs5 is have driver mod error. Have rs5 coupe tuned and I walk most anything from a dig. Rolls are different.
Calling it now, the stinger is going to win. From what I saw in the comments, it's FBO, tune on lap3 ECU, TCU, with Meth.
Hello all!
Stinger owner here.
1st, a big thank to Sam for making this happen, I had a great time.
Rolling races: Very difficult to line up 3 cars. We were instructed to roll at 50km/h in 2nd gear and floor it at the cones. The S5 was way behind us and needed to accelerate way before the cones to lineup, so he was starting the roll race at a much faster speed than me and the RS5. On the 2nd roll race, the RS5 started before the cones so he was ahead of us right from the start.
Drag races: Both races, we started at about the same time. It was not a cool day and the wind was not helping. The track is unprepped and very bumpy. I usually run 11.2's and a 3.3 0-60. I had run against an EV6 GT a couple of times right before, then the rolling races, so my car was starting to be hot. But the RS5 definitely had issues. He was basically running same times as stock at the end.
My best this year is a 11.1 at 123mph. We were all running a bit slower there that day.
It was fun to race and meet other people passionate about cars. Cheers!
I love you so much
question, whats a 2nd downpipe?
So you basically just told us next video is gonna be EV6 GT vs the Mighty Stinger GT? 😂
All those mods and still can't break 10s lol
Curious, you're from Canada why didn't you go with n75?
Impressive results for the Kia. I will say a tuned RS5 needing 4sec to 60 and 12sec quarter mile - something wrong.
Yes Normaly A Stock RS5 needs 3,9Sec to 60mph so i would have assumed more hp would lead to better time. I guess they installed something that made the car heavier resulting into 4sec.
Still kind of a waste of money if there is no improvement.
I need an explanation, these results make no sense... maybe the RS was driving in comfort mode or something cause theres not way... even the S5 was giving it the business
Agreed I wax stingers all day tuned 18 rs5.
Proud stinger owner. Such a great car
S5 owner here!
had a lot of fun. The Kia Stinger was on meth which is probably equivalent / more close & fair to the S5 (me) on Ethanol, unfortunately for this race I was just on regular pump gas but all credits to the Stinger and it's very humble owner it was quick!
As for the RS5, i'm not too sure what was up with that. Maybe the owner wasn't driving it right or maybe the tune itself wasn't the best. It was a custom tune I believe and for these RS5's IE & 034 tend to be the only tunes that are really good for these cars and ECC
Thank's Sam for the invite looking forward to more
My custom tune RS5 does de quarter mile in 11.3 dragy tested with 91oct file, that rs5 is stock.
@@nsguille92the owner himself got tuned and said he isn't stock, why would we lie about that?
@@s5roze because i do have one, custom 91oct and im making full weight no prep surface 11.3 just with the tune, stock i did 11.8-12.2
Makes perfect sense as to how quick that stinger was. Use ethanol on the Audi’s and you’ll see a much different race
Yeah i was just thinking that the rs5 must have some shit tune or driver issue. It didnt seem right at all for a "tuned" rs5.
I own a 22 stinger GT. Cool to see the potential they have with a tune and mods. I've only done intakes so far.
Any difference with the intakes?
@@EldenLord00 just the sound which is worth it.
@@Jweiss76 from my understanding, you need a tune to make them work
@@EldenLord00 no tune needed. Some tunes require CAI though
@@Jweiss76 you do need a tune. Otherwise you will even potentially lose power because your engine is specifically tuned for those intakes and if your going to change them to the cold air ones then you should get a tune.
Damn Kia is dialed in. Those Audis are no joke though. Nice 👍🏻
TCU tune on the Stinger looks good. They usually launch really soft.
True my G70 is slow at launch, that my next mod
Good job by the Kia. But, something is wrong with the RS5's tune. A stock RS5 will run the 12.1 reported in this video. The RS5 does suffer from severe heat soak and if the heat exchanger isn't upgraded with the tune, that could be the culprit.
Depends on the weather... Audi's have bad heat soak, so it may not even do a 12.1 stock...
Have to agree here. Hard to believe that’s a stage 2 RS5. Maybe heat soak but I ran consistent 11.8-11.9 stock. The RS5 launches well but traps lower stock when compared to its competition.
@@pbmcgme176 11.9 is it's ideal figure, normal time is 12.1, and heat soak time will be 12.3-12.5. Stage 2 will take it down to 12 in this scenario. Also the heavier rims...
@@DMCarReviews mine did stock consistent 11.9-12.2, that rs5 on the video is definitively stock.
Not even with heat soak makes that awful numbers lol
I'm an Audi owner and I'm damned impressed by that Stinger!
I was really surprised by its performance as well. I thought the Audis were going to eat it alive.
Stinger gt2 owner .....engine tuned by BMW M division cast-off Albert Bierman and designer Peter Schreyer came from AUDI ....GERMAN BUILT with a Korean badge ......VERY solid vehicle ❤
@@Foregrlz stinger is awesome. But last thing I want is something by bmw. Bmw is a failure of a German car brand. Aka the porsche wannabe
Really cool to see the stinger is capable of such power!
It's amazing how far kia has come. To see what this stinger can really do with a lap 3 and bolt ons.
Awesome race .. is that a Kia? Haha never gets old but the platform is proving to put down the power.
Yep that 10 year old V6 can take a beating alrite!
The Stinger just continues to impress after all of the years you've had it on your channel in base and tuned forms. It is truly remarkable that one of the biggest cars in its class, while also being one of the heaviest, continues to defy logic, all while being 10-20K less than the Germans. That drag race run was pretty epic.
Glad to finally see a Lap3 tuned Stinger on the channel running meth.
Bigger engine displacement and larger stick turbos help, but you see both Audis beat it half the time when they get an even start.
yeah, these things dont messs around when modded, my guess some kia stingers heavily modded can do mid 10's or low 11's in the 1/4 mile
its still a freaking KIA though and KIA sucks donkey balls. Enough said.
@@channelj3135to spend those extra thousands and not be winning every time is what makes me think twice about Audi
This race is not fair rs5 is fast stock but I hope the stinger got some real mods let's go kia
Rs5 stage ones runs high 10’s
@@CLeRobzMaybe without a full interior in boost weather and slicks😂🤷♂️
@@DMCarReviews It will run low 11's on 93 octane. High 10's on e85 on the street. Hating gets you nowhere in life. You can see it anywhere on youtube.
@@bxptone Facts? Proof?
@@DMCarReviews Facts are ... i own one LOL.
“it’s just a Kia”.. clappin cheeks 😂
Proud Stinger owner here 🤟🤟
Same here! Throughly impressed!
Genesis G80 Sport owner here. Same 3.3 t engine
@@Blue-moon12 was hard to decide for me but i just got a stinger myself, there was a sweet blue g80 near me, sick car!
2018 GT here. Well done!
@@turbo111777 Stinger looks much cleaner imo, especially the first gen with the OG taillights and rims
Love to see another Stinger get some love from a growing fan base.
To be fair something is wrong with that rs5 it was slower then stock 🤣 but the stinger is a beast with some tuning done 😆 at like half the price of the others
I was wondering the same thing
@@mcwendel8066seriously... Either the driver was a noob or he needs to take it into maintenance. Plus for a stock car at 444hp, à stage 2 should put it extremely close to 600hp. I don't think that was a true stage 2 RS5.
How was it slower than stock? Hot summer day smh...
Sounds like it was completely heat soaked.
@@nonamenoname4641 I have a 2019 rs5 with a stage one chip. It has about 500-510 Hp. If that has a stage 2 it would have blown both of them away. Seems weird.
Super content pour toi. Elle roule solide, ta Stinger!!!
The Stinger looks the best.
actually it doesnt, but it performed well!
Stingers are butt ugly
@@zro2gon 🤣🤣🤣🤣. looks alot better than the 2 Audis, that's for sure
@@joshuaminke6629 I know you lying that shit looks horrendous
Ain’t no way ! Just got mine 23 stinger AWD. Can’t wait to start running this beast
С запозданием поздравляю!) Отличная машина)
It’s the most fun car I’ve ever test drove im getting it next year
This is awesome! Great stuff all the way around. Almost bought a S5 liftback that was already modded pretty heavily - intakes, turbo-back exhaust, custom ECU tune and OTS TCU tune, was running 3.0sec 0-60 and 10.9 1/4ths... Right as I got the loan secured and reached out, the seller had already done the deal.
With that said, bought my 2018 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD for $38,000 at 39,990 miles first week of August '22, and as of writing I'm at 63,300 miles and I have loved every second with this car. BMS intakes, JB4, IMRacing catless Midpipes and MBRP exhaust. Hang with and beat a lot of cars I should have no business being with, it's been a great time. Super reliable too, as long as you do your maintenance right and follow/beat Kia's recommended care. Coming up on time to swap injectors and transmission, differential fluids, etc.
The best part? Aside from it's small fuel tank, it's an amazing roadtrip car. Doesn't matter if it's just me going 500 miles in a day or I've got my squad with me with luggage for 4 of us on a 4 day weekend- I'm getting anywhere between 27-32mpg dependent on ambient temps, how much I have in the car, and my average speed. Just me in the car going 72mph with nothing more than a suitcase and backpack, I've seen 32-33mpg over 350 miles (car is rated 25mpg on the highway). Lots of storage for luggage, lots of room for passengers that are not giants, and amenities to ensure everybody can keep their phones charged and stay comfortable on long rides.
People can hate on Kia all they want (calling out half the car scene in Memphis), but the Stinger's been an phenomenal car to own and one day hope to see forged motors, built transmissions and diffs, and to see this car become what the GTR has to the car community.
You drove 20,000+- in a year? How often do you have to get serviced and do you go through a Kia dealership for oil change and maintenance? I really want to buy one because they look like amazing cars but I'm scared of buying something that's been driven hard.
LOL, wow, that Stinger is rolling!
That rs5 got a problem. Maybe is a hw tune problem, or some issues with gearbox/engine remap tune.
I would be curious as to who tuned the RS5 as the big names like IE and 034 do not have a stage 2 for the rs5 and stage 1 e85 makes more power than what's listed in the video. Also whats up with the zoom in the RS5 cant see anything captain.
@@robp696 owner didnt want to appear on camera I think, common thing in North America compared to rest of the world
Both IE has stage 2 and 034 has one coming soon. Stage 2 just doesn’t have a huge power bump over stage 1. The stock turbos don’t have a lot of headroom
@@Turtle-sz7sk the stock turbos have quite a lot of headroom. They can trap 130+ MPH. I wouldn’t be surprised to see RS5s in the low 10s in a few months
@@randyragy4592 the stock turbo record is 10.68 @128mph and that’s with a shitload of supporting mods..
I love seeing that people are mad about the kia
Ok so stage 2 RS5 is slower than a stock RS5 👌🏼 got it.
lol,right,my RS5 2021 stage 1 make 0 t0 60 =3.4 sec sportback
My RS3 with some lightweight wheels ran 3.77 0-60 and 11.87 1/4 mile. Stock
There is something wrong with the rs5 I think it might be stock or sum ain’t right look at the times 😭
Is that Kia? Is that right? You're kidding, right? It's crazy
Thank You Sam for a great race!!!
The Genesis with the same motor is lighter than the stinger. Bet those are killer too.
That 3.3tt is a go-getter. I do love my 18
the biggest surprise for me is that stinger gt! 11.5 quarter mile time is crazy for a car only rated at around 385hp from the factory, just a tune and a few bolt ons its in the 11s.. impressive for a 4 door car!
365 bhp from factory
they're even faster on a prepped surface, but so are the rest of these cars.
Even just a conservative, mild tune on the Stinger will make a stock stinger feel slow in comparison. And a stock Stinger is decently quick. The potential of these is incredible. The 3.3tt engine in these has proved to be very reliable. I've been on the Stinger forums nearly everyday for years now and very rarely hear of issues with that engine, let alone it blowing up. The few instances I have heard of since 2018 were almost always from people going in and modifying a jb4 custom style tune with no idea what they were doing.
A Kia stinger will never hit 11.5 secin a quarter mile that's super car category
@@Investor_philips LMAO, there's a half dozen in the 10's, and that's only the ones that submit their slips to the Stinger top 20 site
Sam , let’s line up that stinger with the M340 I think that would make for a fun one
Would prefer stock vs stock though
M340 is a monster
Why? It would kill the stinger though
Stinger owner here. When my car had time to cool down, I did a run against the tuned M340i and we were door to door for the whole 1/4 mile. My car usually runs 11.2's at around 123mph.
Always a good day with Sam on the tarmac with some beautiful cars, all for science. Thanks again man. 🤣 that Kia though.
Any time!
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As a stinger owner. There was definitely something wrong with the RS5. Rs5 should’ve at least taken the drag in my opinion. Still crazy that the stinger gapped them like that.
No. A tuned stinger puts power down better than an RS5.
@@andrewthach1989 A stock RS5 will run high 11's low 12's with a stage 2 tune no way in hell should that thing be in the 12's.. Either something seriously wrong with that RS5 or that driver needs to have his license revoked.
Old post but im just seeing this video, I think it's odd aswell, my stage 2 s5 is running 11.5 in the summer heat in NC
Such a great video! This motivated me a year ago to buy my stinger. Audi is to credit for the birth of the stinger. Without their head engineers working together with Kia there wouldnt be a stinger. Such a great car, 60k miles no issues just regular maintenance!
Tuned Stinger vs tuned M340i vs tuned RS3
What is that RS5 tuned with because that’s performing like stock. I’m tuned on e85 stage 1+ with TCU tune to match on IE and run 10.85 @126mph and those other cars aren’t touching 10’s without turbo upgrades
Anyone still throwing shade on the Stinger's name needs to wake up. That thing is an absolute madman with a proper tune.
The car with the most mods won. Who knew! Great vid, thanks Sam.
I saw Tuned Stinger and clicked lol
Stinger's rims are 37lbs lol. RPF1's are a must. Another great video Sam!
Yo do you know the weight of the scorpion edition wheels? I can't find a source for their weight anywhere!
I mean, they're 19's (and only 34lbs, but who's counting on stock wheels for a fat car). RPF1 only goes up to 18
@@viru52000 what are you trying to say? Don't worry about weight reduction bc the stinger is a sport back and heavy? My guy you are on a TH-cam video of 3 modified street cars racing.
@@mtDNA_Refresh because it's not like the other vehicles are running super lightweight wheels either. Your point is moot in the grand scheme.
A lighter wheel setup is in my plans for next year
So sad to see the stinger get discontinued, Kia really made something special
Something isn’t right about the stinger. What was the DA ? That set up should have been low 11s. My jb4 map6 car did the 1/4 in 11.4 3.3 0-60 lol
It was not a cool day and wind was not helping. I had done many runs before that take. Car was hot, track was unprepped and bumpy. My best is 11.1, but usually run 11.2-.3 at 122-124mph.
@@armofiron7435 that makes a lot more sense for sure.
@@armofiron7435 pure testament to Sam keeping things real here. Thank you for the insights on the results.
@@armofiron7435 how come you did lose all the roll races ?
@dj1nnie Very difficult to align 3 cars at the same speed and to all hit the gas at the same time. On the first roll, the S5 was way behind and started to accelerate before the cone to line up but at the cones, he was at 80km/h and I was at 50km/h... like instructed. On the 2nd race, the RS5 jumped and started to accelerate before the cones. 1/4 mile doesn't lie as we were all all wheel drive cars and started fairly.
what happened to the rs5 from the dig?
I owned a Stinger GT2 for 3 years and from a dig it would upset a lot of ppl. But from a roll theres just not enough power.
Hellz yeah 👊🏽👊🏽 love this content
Love how the KIA is killin a $100,000 RS5
i think we call all agree that the stinger is best looking car here. and completely destroys in performance
I disagree. I don’t hate the stinger but to me it looks ugly and cheap. The Audis look luxurious and nice
Stinger owner here, from Quebec as well. Lap3 ECU 2.5/TCU 2.0 + Stage 4 Meth Injection, Injen intakes, Jun BL secondaries + catback, UP intercooler w/charge pipe, and more. I can confirm the near-3-second drags are very achievable with launch control, and the world record is 2.8 if I'm not mistaken. It's such a great car because even with all the mods, it's still cheaper than a stock S5 Sportback (it costs about 25k CAD$ + tax more) -- I know, I almost bought that one instead. Something to think about when comparing all these cars. Best decision I've made car-wise.
RS5 is running stock times...
for sure and there isn't even a stage 2 from the big tuning houses for the rs5, stage 1 e85 makes more power and runs in the 10s.
Littérale my bud hit high 10’s with stage 1
@@robp696euro charged stage 2 93 and stage 1 are in the 10´s
IE has a stage 2 and 034 is releasing one soon..
On the roll races, it looks like the Kia transmission was slow, or the turbo had some lag, or the type of tuning was a bit off, however; every single time towards the finish line, it was coming back with a vengeance. A car that did not get a lot of respect, showing that it has earned it!
On a roll, the Audis were accelerating before the cones, not following the instructions.
Also Sam can you include trap speeds? You already have the info might as well add it
Intakes and do add 12-14 hp combined and methanol injection adds maybe 16-25 hp and the tune adds 60-70 hp.
Stinger is forever underrated
Rs5 isn't tuned right
The Kia flies. But something is off with that Rs5.
Yep my bud does high 10’s stage 1
Sam coming through with another 🔥 video
Bring back the Tuned TTRS vs the RS5 & Stinger
The issue with tuning those Audi’s is the “torque management” programming in their TCU’s. They don’t allow full torque in first 2 gears. This cannot be overridden in TCU flashes/updates. This is to prevent damage to the auto box. Same with Audi/VW DSG’s…although, they’re slightly more restricted to prevent damage to the clutches. I’m not sure if the Stinger has any restrictions in it’s TCU or not.
That’s a lie because the TTE hybrid s4/s5s launch crazy.
@@Tsand4 - The torque management system is a built in safeguard to prevent damage to the transmission. The ZF8 and all DSG’s have it, and it cannot be overridden. Ask any tuner/company on the market, if you’d prefer further verification. And BTW…launch control doesn’t mean you get full torque. Most launch control systems are designed around getting the most power/torque possible without breaking traction, whilst attempting to prevent damage to the drivetrain. I’ve worked as a automotive software engineer previously. You’re arguing with the wrong person here 🙄
@@matthewwood4756 I know exactly what torque management is lol……..stingers have them too. But how can tuned S4/5s pull 1.50 60ft times if this torque management is so aggressive like you say it is? Do you understand that they specifically have a TCU tune on all of the Audi tuners to specifically higher the torque limits during launch?lol
@@Tsand4 - TCU tunes allow higher torque limits, but in first/second gear, full engine torque is still not permitted (and cannot be overridden) in the ZF8/DQ250/DQ500 (and their derivatives). Launch control is not about allowing maximum torque. It’s a compromise between power/torque/traction relative to each specific vehicle/drivetrain. Specific gear ratios/final drive ratios/rim/tire sizes/etc all have an influence on the times/speeds off the line. Again, as mentioned previously…you can easily verify the TCU restrictions from any tuner/company that deals with VAG tuning.
@@matthewwood4756 obviously no manufacturers allow maximum torque/boost during launch. But your acting like Audi is limiting it to no boost on launch or somthing when in reality in bone stock OEM form Audi specifically the b9 platform builds quite a bit of boost on launch. About 50%…all of the Germans allow a good amount of torque on launch even oem. The stinger/g70 literally build zero boost using oem LC. And the TCU tune allows for around maybe 5lbs of boost on launch. Also both Audis should have the advantage here from a dig as there tuning companies have way more R&D in there platforms compared to the g70/stinger. They have specific launch control maps with there zf tcu tunes etc………the stinger TCU tune pretty much just let’s you build boost on launch and quicker shifts.
2019 Kia Stinger owner. Proud to see how incredible this beast Stinger can be.
I got my jaw dropped😮
12.1 tuned rs5 is driver bad or car tune is bad my bud hits high 10’s we got a problem here
My stg 1 B8.5 S5 runs 12.1's on 93. Ain't no way a tuned B9 RS5 running 12.1's
Needs a intercooler
Stock rs5 times here
KIA STINGER GT ❤️ 😊 Power
There's something wrong with that RS5 or the driver. I've owned a 2019 RS5 Sportback (same as in this video) and now a 2022 RS5 Sportback. I also live in the same area as these races take place. Both my RS5s have run far better times and they are STOCK! No slicks, no prepped surfaces. Something was obviously not right in this race. Great race though, and shows all the cars have great tuning potential!
I was going to say the same. The RS5 runs 3.6 0-60 from the factory, how is it even running slower with a tune? They must have not been launching correctly.
Mine with a 91oct file custom map does 11.3 😂😂 that rs5 owner is not launching good or is lying about being tuned.
All over these Euro's on youtube have RS5's getting stomped by everything. Yet I stomp on everything in my stage 1 RS5 these videos are silly and there has to be some financial motivation/sponsorship behind the scenes, the times they are showing make no sense.
Not too sure that RS5 driver knows what they’re doing haha. The numbers put up were sub stock..
Love the Stinger always thought it was a cool car, but I think something was wrong with the RS5. A stock RS5 does high 11s. I have a stock RS5 comp and it does mid 11s.
Something ain't adding up. Stock RS5's run 3.5 - 3.6 sec 0 - 60. How does a tuned RS5 manage 4 ?
I’ve got Stinger as well and I love it but against the Rs5 the Stinger has no hope 😆. Anyway, S5 vs Stinger would be interesting!
We shall see
It was like 2-3 🚌 🤭🤭
@@SamCarLegion well you got me 😂 it was unexpected to see Stinger winning the digs! Anyway great race!
@@avis1978 😆 proud to own a Stinger! Full of surprises
If all cars were stock it would be RS3>Stinger GT>S3
My Audi rs5 stg2, in hot weather +30 at drag racing competitions, showed time 11.1-11.2
Stinger/G70 is such an underatted platform and gets so much hate for being(it's a KIA)🥴. KIA would've taken the rolls with a little more leg room too.
True car enthusiasts doesn’t hate it! Only the uneducated one with no cars/video game racers/truck drivers. Period l! There’s plenty real enthusiasts switched to Kia from popular platforms! Most haters you see usually from village with very limited internet
Own a 2018 gt stinger, love it. Mods coming end of year, lap3 500whp kit ❤
wtf are these camera angles
1 and 2 Race Audi jump Stinger is king 👑
Kia is garbage
@@Jake_Smith7472 cry 😭😭😭 more 🤣🤣
@@Mund333M lol bro drives a Kia🤡
@@Jake_Smith7472 🤣 butthurt?and you ride a bike Cry louder kid because the stinger is faster and better hahahaha
@@Mund333M it's not tho lol it's a Kia. Any car can be fast with enough up grades.
RS5 is off. He seems stock
Yep tune it does under 11
Stock rs5 make 11.8 with cold temperatures -12.1 sec with hot temperature outside
Stinger is very impressive with these light mods.
What the hell... the S5 sounded terrible! Great video Same!
Thanks bud.
The numbers are off
No question which one sounds best.
2018 gt-1 here, similar bolt ons but with a JB4. Kia is the real deal, so sorry they arent continuing on with the Stinger platform...
Something has to wrong with RS5
No channel has ever done a 2020+ stage II M550i. Why is that? They run exceptionally well.🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤔🤔🤔
Cause others will all loose lol
Put the audi on stage 3 and see what happens👿
I'm here representing for the kia stinger.....22 gt1 jb4 tuned afe intakes Sway bars led snorkels to name a few
I feel like the stinger driver was in the wrong gear for the rolls….it pulled hard from a dig and a dig isn’t their forte.
As a Stinger owner, I approve this video.
Rs5 doing a 12.1 1/4? Those are stock rs3 numbers . Rs3 are faster then rs5s?
Both roll races the cars started ahead of the stinger a whole car yet it was reeling them back in. Guys need to learn to roll race and line them up better stinger would've won.
Bro, no way that tuned RS5 got gapped like that. It’s not the car, it’s the driver.
Made all the kia owners very proud.
Just add a Tuned Q50/Q60 Redsport (No JB4) to the mix that will be a good match up
They bail or afraid to race. I have asked 4-5 guys
What do you expect from vr guys. They breed from BAE.
WOW!! That Stinger is a fkn beast!!
One camera 15 different views roll races are start whenever you want to. I don’t know if it’s the accuracy of the drivers or what but somethings off not just in this race but I trust camisa or wow car a little more.
Good grouping of closely matched cars, but, you know, some elapsed times would be nice.