@@timcarter817 Sure this proves nothing, but this led to her contacting her loud-mouth son, who was then recorded implicating himself and his mom when discussing how he and Magbuana should respond.
Can you imagine living your days wondering if today’s the day the police come calling - knowing if it is, your life is over as you knew it and incarceration is all you’ll ever know from now on.
Wendi’s life must be miserable & in Turmoil right now. Never knowing when her day will come when they arrest her. They may be preventing the boys from access to social media for now. There is so much information on the case out there, I believe they will find out the truth one day.
Had to be a huge morale boost for the detectives (& Markels) waiting so many years for something to unravel. Bittersweet is the moment when the smug, selfish, narcissistic Wendi gets bracelets slapped on her wrists and her kids handed over to Markels folks. Hopefully that day comes soon.
@@nonya8966 - I think that was the intention. If he came across as a genuine gang member, the Adelson's would have crapped themselves and went to the police.
They were!!! And they all are GUILTY!! Wendi will get karma and so will her disgraceful and vile parents!! You never know Wendy just might get die in a DUI crash or maybe someone will mad at how she drives and get road rage. Then when she's dead she'll be sent to Hell be tortured and burn in hell for all eternity!! I don't believe God will forgive her and allow her in heaven because that is where Dan is. Dan loved his children and wendi had him killed because he loved them and the judge agreed that he loved his children very much and wouldn't be taking the children out of Dan's life as she hoped the judge would do. This case is so tragic and such a miscarriage of justice because of what happened with Wendi not going to prison for this murder she paid for and had her brother and Katie hire the hitmen to get it done. All the players in this case are guilty and they all deserve to pay with they're lives or at least get life in prison with no parole only leaving prison in small card board boxes dead. I pray for justice for Dan and his children I think Wendi should lose custody of the children and the children given to Dan's side of the family.
It speaks volumes that she took it and put it in her purse and didn't ask the guy "what the hell are you talking about and to get away from me" or just turn and walk away. Instead...she takes it and walks away not weirded out.
EXACTLY!!! She doesn't say, "Katherine? Katherine who? Who are these people you're mentioning? What problem are you referring to? My family's fine, we don't have any problems. I don't know who you are; back off! I don't take papers from strange people I don't know." Etc. She doesn't even peek at the paper to see what it's about. Why? Cause she knows FULL WELL what it's about!
The whole plot will unravel and be exposed in due time. Sleazy people will do anything to save their own hide. Someone will talk and its just gunna take time. If a deal is offered to Charlie to get OO prison in his mid to late 50's, he'll spill on his own family. They're ALL IN on getting Wendi like they should be.
People like this actually exist. Kill for $?? An innocent father ??? A good father ??? I’m so glad she was convicted. She thought she was a bad a** acting All hard but on the stand acting meek and soft spoken.
@@davemojarra4734 what blows my mind is they offered her immunity to turn in the family and she refused and stayed loyal to charlie I wonder if she ever considered her children obviously she didn't because she's serving a life sentence, unreal.
That undercover was terrible, he came off like a cop and the way he handed her the papers like they were a subpoena... If they used a better actor, she would have sent the 5k incriminating herself.
An innocent person would not have folded that up and put it in her purse. They would’ve stood there stunned asking more questions and holding the paper. At least looked at it
What we DON'T see is Donna displaying body language indicating she has no idea why she has been approached, no totally weirded out reaction which would be expected. If someone approached me like this and I had no idea, my body language would show this. I would literally chase the guy down and ask questions, my hands would be out, palms up, indicating my total confusion, I would probably stop walking in shock and think about what just happened and shake my head from side to side and look puzzled. After her initial reaction, she doesn't even look at the piece of paper, places it in her bag and walks away. She doesn't look back at the guy, just walks straight ahead.
If you study the first time before anybody was thrown in jail it's quite interesting and it kind of leads right up to Mrs adelson getting her piece of paper she was shocked that's why she didn't do anything she didn't know who was watching her how that guy knew her who she was etc.
I wouldn’t even take the paper from someone I didn’t know. I would say no thanks because I’m thinking that they are soliciting me. If they said my name or the names of people in my family I would head right to the police if I legitimately had no idea what the heck he was talking about.
@@Divisiononebasketball it’s been proven literally for decades from scientific/psych studies showing that people’s actual response in situations are nowhere near (a large % the exact opposite) what they later say they would do.
@@lizettewanzer8650 it's actually "Olive Oyl" but you need to have aged a bit to know that. It was a great cartoon when I was a kid. Still eating spinach every day.
And for the safety of the two kids. She was the one that would know the best time to have the hit done and this would have to be when the kids were well out of harms way, to which any mother would be highly concerned about, and therefore would need foreplanning.
@@ThePocketPugilistgreat thought until we reflect over the more recent “Microsoft Executive” murder when a small child/toddler was in the backseat of car as the father was shot dead. Gosh, I’m so on the fence over Wendi after seeing her first initial interrogation because if she’s guilty, she deserves one hell of an Oscar
Donna does not know a Latin King from a jackboy. This guy just needs to look menacing and from the wrong side of the tracks. Reality check - it worked.
Isn’t it wonderful that so many talented, intelligent women are professionals working in the justice system? This is a major revolution. Fifty years ago, there would have been none. It was a man’s world. I would like to add that this trial is as high a profile trial as one could find.
Yes it is. When I started practicing law it was still a GOB world, the Good Ole Boys system. Women had to work three times as hard to get respect in this profession. Today, med school, law school, veterinary schools, and other professions are turning out predominantly women. I’m so so proud. Xo
I don’t understand why the authorities did not use a native Spanish speaker rather than a large police officer (with his hint of Southern USA dialect) to pass the message?
Well this guy is persuasive - moreover you are assuming that Wendi knew that Charlie hired hispanics do do his dirty work. She may not have been that well informed.
He is a ‘Latin King’ in that he probably knows phrases like ‘corpus delicti’, ‘quid pro quo’, ‘post mortem’ and ‘magnum opus’, just from hanging with the office gang and the Markel case.
I’m not sure why they did not talk with her longer. They could have asked her questions and she would have talked. Instead she called her son who knows more about these type of things.
What difference Defence? CHARLIE Donna and Katie took that bait... they are 1000% guilty ... if innocent they would have went to the FBI or police.. they did not
@@nathanjamesbaker Why? Firstly, Rivera repeatedly said this wasn’t a Latin Kings operation. Secondly, a lot of people in the Latino community have half or step siblings who are white. Also, a lot of people who aren’t actually Blood Brothers call each other My Brother. They might actually not be related at all and say My Brother.
“Don’t be scared” should have told her that this wasn’t a gang member. In fact, his entire speech told her that he wasn’t a gang member. Thank goodness Charlie was as cocky as he was, if he were humble, he might have gotten away with it.
She's obviously involved but that was tough to watch. Did they send their best detective out there to do that? Pretty pathetic and now a pretty weak piece of evidence.
Like others, I find her body language very revealing. As soon as he walks away, she folds the letter and tucks it in her purse. I would personally have told him “you have the wrong person sorry” and would not have taken the envelope and walked off. If he followed me, I would tell him “leave me alone or I’ll call the police” or have gone into a restaurant/store. If I did take the envelope, (which is unlikely if I had no idea what was in it or why I was given it), I would have opened it immediately and read it there because I would want to know “what in the world is this about?” If I didn’t understand it and had nothing to do with it, I would just tear it up and throw it in the nearest garbage, thinking it was sone type of delusional person saying nonsensical things in public. She quickly hid it in her purse like she was aware of the contents and wanted ti read it/discuss it in private. They would not even have taken the time to call the number on the letter if they did not know they could be in jeopardy. I think a jury will sense these things from the tape and actions they took.
It's not grasping at straws read the federal rules of evidence they didn't have the exact copy of the note.. which is _hearsay_ and in most cases would not be admitted into evidence. The police bungled that
Exactly. You don’t remember exactly what was written did you? It’s like a phone number and a dollar amount! It’s not like some IKEA cabinet assembly instruction list
🎉🎉uf a person came up to u and said yhese people are being take n care of and this person is not. U werent involved u would say i have no idea what ur talking about. Donna didnt say that.
Nice podcast...Wendi is so snarky, deceptive and just outright lies that a jury will see thru her evasive remarks. Jeff is a gem...and will give the jury a real insight into the Adelson madness....
This case is the perfect example that illustrates the importance of hiring true professionals such as a hit man that knows they must do things such as use stolen cars for transportation in the job. A professional hit man is going to know that cars are now always caught on camera during most of its travel relevant to a crime. That these idiots got caught based on the most obvious issues facing anyone intending to commit a crime is proof that they are not pro hit men. If your hit man gets caught, it is a high chance that you will go down with them. There are fundamental questions that must be asked during an interview when hiring someone.
This undercover dude was so glaringly obvious, clown level undercover. That Adleson’s fell for such an obvious goofy decoy is sort of unbelievable, yet not really as this family (whomever the guilty parties ) sure were not equipped to do a hit and get away with it.
I would have gone straight to the police. However, this family are criminals and so full of themselves it’s disgusting! They all must be held accountable!
Donna Adelson is going to jail, her son Charlie is in jail - the father Harvey will change his will and leave everything to Wendi and her two sons - why? because son Charlie is either going to get life in prison or the death penalty - Donna is going to get a number of years of jail time -- as for the oldest son his mom and dad - Harvey and Donna do not approve of the oldest sons Indian wife and do not speak to him --- Wendi masterminded this to be the sole executor of her Dad's multi million dollar estate.
There has been multiple travesties of justice in this dreadful case - for Wendi not to be charged for her obvious involvement, would be yet another one.
During the "Bump", the undercover agent did not sound convincing as a thug! First of all, he was too polite to Donna Adelson on the street. A real bad guy wouldn't tell Donna not to be scared. He just wouldn't care. Most of the time he sounded like a regular educated guy with no accent, then he exaggerates the accent while saying, "Tuto", " Tato.". It was so blantly unrealistic, corny and laughable.
Poorly thought out bump. Wrong undercover chosen. No copy of document given to Donna kept. Plus could have left out a few details like mention of Kathy
@4:52 did someone forget to turn off their microphone?? What do we think her lawyer was saying?? During the undercovers deposition did he say that he didn't remember what the paper said and now all of a sudden he does remember?? I'm guessing if I just waited and watch the video I'll find out but I'm impatient lol
no way she just accepts this guys letter and words if she's innocent. if she's innocent, no look of terror on her face and she's asking him a million questions. she doesn't just let him walk off. if she looks at the photo on the paper of dan markel she call the cops immediately since she knows dan was shot and killed and this guy may have info on the killer.
When was she appearing to be perplexed? Before or After she placed the note in her purse? An innocent person would be outrageous by the approach of a stranger and certainly wouldn't accept a threatening note.
@@2bcYT She didn't know the note was threatening when she accepted it. She even told her son that she thought it was a process server at first. As for why she took the note, maybe it was to get the guy to leave her alone. Indeed, the first thing out of her mouth was the guy scared her. And he did leave her alone after she took the paper. It's hard to know how one would react in a situation like that even if innocent. Would you humor the person to get out of the situation, or would you risk provoking a bigger confrontation with a large, strange man? Nobody knows until it happens to them. The point is, this video alone says nothing about guilt.
@@nathanjamesbaker The FBI Agent tells DA that "we know that your family has been taking care of Katie..." If she didn't know who Katie was or know her family had been taking care of Katie then there's no reason for DA to accept the note. She should have walked away. Then, CA messed up by calling the ph # on the note. We don't visually see Sig Garcia fire the weapon at Dan but he did. In investigations, you don't always take only one piece of evidence to prove a crime but the entirety of the clues taken together and shaken down will show that the crime occurred and by whom.
@@nathanjamesbaker I don't know how I would react but know one thing for certain. If I were an innocent person I would have hightailed it to the police station immediately. Pronto.
It's really interesting to see and hear The Defense Lawyers when they're Trying so Hard to Have their Clients To Take Them" OFF the HOOK." And the thing is ,they Can Sleep and Eat Properly knowing they're Defending the Perpetrators.
Let’s call Wendi smart now . And yes she is a trained lawyer. She was in from conception of murdering her ex. However she made sure she didn’t use phones and emails in the plans, whilst her mother and brother did. She should and must be arrested soon. She’ll be proven guilty in court or she proves her innocence in court. Just arrest her now ..
If some random guy walked up to me and made thise statements and Inwas innocent, Id be asking are some kind of crazy lunatic and what in the world are you talking about?
9:26 - oops ouch... which one of those fits best? wow maybe the dominoes start to fall right there...PS - as with Stephanie Lazarus, there is something about Donna having to rearrange her hair - fighting for mental composure and it's only getting to get worse from then on. - oops: I shouldn't have done that so many years back ouch: this company acts fast... let me get out of there, maybe to Vietnam of all places! - as if Vietnam had not suffered enough from Americans on their soil... gee whiz, Donna! RIP .
🇺🇸 Message to our great prosecutors -- Georgia and Sarah. 😇 Please offer Katie, Garcia, and Charlie each - independent "sweet" plea-deals 🍰 to "fess up" and testify to the complete truth ! 🔥 Only the snake that bites first gets the deal. I believe It is well worth-it to get ALL the co-conspirators. 👺
Wendi, you must know at this point. They have you. What are the odds mom 100% sheltered you? It didn't happen. She was upset that you were so bad to Charlie. She was not careful, but careless. You are ALL going down, with the possibility exception of Harvey. Harvey seems as morally gross as you all, but perhaps he can die alone in the house and not in jail. What a family!
Kathrine should testify against wendi take them down with her . As wendi looked over at katrin 2 times when she was testifing at katrins trial. Never did wendi feel horribke that because of her katrin charlie and her mom and few other people are gonna get life?.
She must of pooped her diapers. She knew at that moment not to read it and get to the car. I herd she called wendi. They saw the phone records than. Alled charlie wich we here. They all need to turn on wendi. Charlies gonna get life Kathrine got life one of the others got life and the other on in the green car got 7 years cause he turned. They all need to turn on wendi cause she is the one that got all of them involved. She got so mad when the defense attorney said everyones here because of u.
If they would have kept it gone and waited for these arrest, they would of had the mother father and Wendie too, the arrest would of still been able to happen for Sigfredo and Katie, Luis was already in jail, there is no way they can go free, finish the job!
@@amyc9155 No, they look exactly like each other. Then you add the fact they're the same height and same hair. It's not crazy to suggest they may be sisters when the 2 women defense attorneys are sisters.
She can pick her grandkids up live down the street from her favorite daughter wow good life hah Wendi took Dan life away so ur crazy narcissist mom can be happy and down the street take care of them guess Donna karma is a b because u can’t see ur grandkids and ur daughter and ur son hahaha
Wouldn’t it have made sense to have an intimating guy do this. This guy was polite and had no Spanish accent. The bump was a good idea but poorly executed.
@@Miadolph427 the guy who done the bump agrees with you, he felt it didn't go well and that his calls to the adelsons went better. I've always felt that their confusion in trying to figure out who he was got them talking more.
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If this doesn’t convince you she’s guilty, nothing will.
A video of them handing her a piece of paper that she was confused by? Wut?
@@charliechuckles8031 ok, what did she do after that, genius lol.
@@charliechuckles8031 a “paid troll”. Are you delusional?
I agree with Tim it doesn't prove a whole lot.. she simply was handed a folded piece of paper
@@timcarter817 Sure this proves nothing, but this led to her contacting her loud-mouth son, who was then recorded implicating himself and his mom when discussing how he and Magbuana should respond.
Can you imagine living your days wondering if today’s the day the police come calling - knowing if it is, your life is over as you knew it and incarceration is all you’ll ever know from now on.
It’s going to be soon! 🤫🤥👨⚖️
Exactly!! Why ruin your life like this?!? 😣
This is what one pays for evil.
Wendi’s life must be miserable & in Turmoil right now. Never knowing when her day will come when they arrest her. They may be preventing the boys from access to social media for now. There is so much information on the case out there, I believe they will find out the truth one day.
I can almost guarantee none of the Adelsons responsible ever ever ever thought they'd be held responsible, or even caught at all, for this.
Better than any scripted TV show or Movie.
Complete with a stuff up where they kept no copy or even a photo of what was handed over .
I agree
Had to be a huge morale boost for the detectives (& Markels) waiting so many years for something to unravel. Bittersweet is the moment when the smug, selfish, narcissistic Wendi gets bracelets slapped on her wrists and her kids handed over to Markels folks. Hopefully that day comes soon.
Unfortunately it's real
Wendi got immunity from testifying at trial i think, she is off scott free!
How could you listen to that undercover talk and not know he’s a cop?
Exactly
@@nonya8966 - I think that was the intention. If he came across as a genuine gang member, the Adelson's would have crapped themselves and went to the police.
"My brother who is INCARCERATED" 😂
@@Charlesbjtown exactly no “street” person would use a world like that.
Seems like the entire Adelson Family was involved…
I totally agree
They were..Wendi knew the whole time…check out her interrogation video and start at 22:00
They were!!! And they all are GUILTY!! Wendi will get karma and so will her disgraceful and vile parents!! You never know Wendy just might get die in a DUI crash or maybe someone will mad at how she drives and get road rage. Then when she's dead she'll be sent to Hell be tortured and burn in hell for all eternity!! I don't believe God will forgive her and allow her in heaven because that is where Dan is. Dan loved his children and wendi had him killed because he loved them and the judge agreed that he loved his children very much and wouldn't be taking the children out of Dan's life as she hoped the judge would do. This case is so tragic and such a miscarriage of justice because of what happened with Wendi not going to prison for this murder she paid for and had her brother and Katie hire the hitmen to get it done. All the players in this case are guilty and they all deserve to pay with they're lives or at least get life in prison with no parole only leaving prison in small card board boxes dead. I pray for justice for Dan and his children I think Wendi should lose custody of the children and the children given to Dan's side of the family.
But not the dad I don't believe.
@@andrewlarson7895 He eventually knows what went down, and didn't immediately go to the authorities
Pray for Justice
🙏 #justiceforDan
If a person has no involvement they would quicky stop him & say "what in the world are you talking about"....Her silence screams GUILTY !!
True, also they would have called the police!
I’d immediately told this DUDE to take a LONG HIKE
It speaks volumes that she took it and put it in her purse and didn't ask the guy "what the hell are you talking about and to get away from me" or just turn and walk away. Instead...she takes it and walks away not weirded out.
EXACTLY!!! She doesn't say, "Katherine? Katherine who? Who are these people you're mentioning? What problem are you referring to? My family's fine, we don't have any problems. I don't know who you are; back off! I don't take papers from strange people I don't know." Etc.
She doesn't even peek at the paper to see what it's about. Why? Cause she knows FULL WELL what it's about!
Donna isn't a very smart criminal especially talking to Charlie about leaving the country. And why didn't the Adelson's use "throw away" phones?
She’s freaking out knowing it’s the police! As she walks away she knows her life is over!
LOVE your content. Does anyone have all the calls between Donna + Charlie?
@@nkhirdaji I heard the courts is trying to have them released to the public.
And yet she has walked free for almost 10 years. Her life is hardly over
See “fanci fiction” for all wire tap recordings
@@Miadolph427it is now 😂😂😂
Thank God I'm too lazy to commit a crime😅
And when i think of being able to use my own bathroom....
Geez you’d think of Magbuena has been arrested they’d have enough to charge mom and Wendy also.
Since there is no evidence against Wendi - no.
@@acc4465 okay Wendi
The whole plot will unravel and be exposed in due time. Sleazy people will do anything to save their own hide. Someone will talk and its just gunna take time. If a deal is offered to Charlie to get OO prison in his mid to late 50's, he'll spill on his own family. They're ALL IN on getting Wendi like they should be.
@@johnbu1981 😂
Miss Katie should have taken the plea deal
People like this actually exist.
Kill for $?? An innocent father ??? A good father ??? I’m so glad she was convicted. She thought she was a bad a** acting All hard but on the stand acting meek and soft spoken.
She gone be the boss bish of the cell bloc.😂
I thought she was arrogant and seemed confused and annoyed she was even testifying.
What a wretched person she is.
@@davemojarra4734 what blows my mind is they offered her immunity to turn in the family and she refused and stayed loyal to charlie I wonder if she ever considered her children obviously she didn't because she's serving a life sentence, unreal.
Hell yea
@@michaelburke754 those kids hit the jackpot being rid of her sorry ass, they'll be better for it
This case is like watching a movie.
That undercover was terrible, he came off like a cop and the way he handed her the papers like they were a subpoena... If they used a better actor, she would have sent the 5k incriminating herself.
An innocent person would not have folded that up and put it in her purse. They would’ve stood there stunned asking more questions and holding the paper. At least looked at it
What we DON'T see is Donna displaying body language indicating she has no idea why she has been approached, no totally weirded out reaction which would be expected.
If someone approached me like this and I had no idea, my body language would show this.
I would literally chase the guy down and ask questions, my hands would be out, palms up, indicating my total confusion, I would probably stop walking in shock and think about what just happened and shake my head from side to side and look puzzled.
After her initial reaction, she doesn't even look at the piece of paper, places it in her bag and walks away. She doesn't look back at the guy, just walks straight ahead.
Oh I forgot, I would then CALL POLICE and request any CCTV footage from the area!
Lmao what in the blue hell reach is this? Did you see the size and look of that guy? No woman would be “chasing” him down. You’re delusional af
If you study the first time before anybody was thrown in jail it's quite interesting and it kind of leads right up to Mrs adelson getting her piece of paper she was shocked that's why she didn't do anything she didn't know who was watching her how that guy knew her who she was etc.
I wouldn’t even take the paper from someone I didn’t know. I would say no thanks because I’m thinking that they are soliciting me. If they said my name or the names of people in my family I would head right to the police if I legitimately had no idea what the heck he was talking about.
@@Divisiononebasketball it’s been proven literally for decades from scientific/psych studies showing that people’s actual response in situations are nowhere near (a large % the exact opposite) what they later say they would do.
What’s up with defense attorney Olive oil who is always making weird faces?
Oh ya she i was weirded out too by her too...she annoyed me as much as Elaine did...😖😒
Oliver oil?? THAT IS FUNN!
"Olive Oil" 😆😁
@@lizettewanzer8650 it's actually "Olive Oyl" but you need to have aged a bit to know that. It was a great cartoon when I was a kid. Still eating spinach every day.
@@jackharrison7613 Oh, they misspelled it, lol. I guess they meant Popeye's wife. But even she was never this bad! 😄
Who would know Dan's shedule or routine best but Wendi. Those hitmen would have needed that info to carry out the hit. Wendi is definitely involved
And for the safety of the two kids. She was the one that would know the best time to have the hit done and this would have to be when the kids were well out of harms
way, to which any mother would be highly concerned about, and therefore would need foreplanning.
@@ThePocketPugilistgreat thought until we reflect over the more recent “Microsoft Executive” murder when a small child/toddler was in the backseat of car as the father was shot dead. Gosh, I’m so on the fence over Wendi after seeing her first initial interrogation because if she’s guilty, she deserves one hell of an Oscar
Bad undercover lol ain’t no way that he is a Latin King he sounds too formal lol
Believe or not when cops are undercover they don’t act the way they do in a court of law.
@@Richard.Hybels im talking about the bump recording lol he sounded the same!
Donna does not know a Latin King from a jackboy. This guy just needs to look menacing and from the wrong side of the tracks. Reality check - it worked.
@@F_Tim1961 hey Tim....don't you know that EVERYONE in the TH-cam comment section knows how to do the cops jobs better than them?? C'mon now!!
@@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644 yeah that was really bad!! 🤣
When this is a movie my wife said she will watch it.
She must of crapped herself there. I herd she called her dayghter why wasnt her phone bugged.
Isn’t it wonderful that so many talented, intelligent women are professionals working in the justice system? This is a major revolution. Fifty years ago, there would have been none. It was a man’s world. I would like to add that this trial is as high a profile trial as one could find.
It’s a wonderful thing! I love Dan Merkal’s attorneys!
Men or women, either way
Easy light work. No responsibility. No risk. Nobody cares. I have more respect for woman working in jails and on the policejob
Isn't it also wonderful watching the Evilson's getting there just desserts!!
Yes it is. When I started practicing law it was still a GOB world, the Good Ole Boys system. Women had to work three times as hard to get respect in this profession. Today, med school, law school, veterinary schools, and other professions are turning out predominantly women. I’m so so proud. Xo
Poor Donna has a chronically upset stomach after this encounter.😂
Poo poo pants Donna
She had better get a good supply of Immodium when she heads to the slammer.
Now that Katie has decided to talk to the government Donna must be shitting a brick.
Dynamic defacation
I don’t understand why the authorities did not use a native Spanish speaker rather than a large police officer (with his hint of Southern USA dialect) to pass the message?
Well this guy is persuasive - moreover you are assuming that Wendi knew that Charlie hired hispanics do do his dirty work. She may not have been that well informed.
I agree but it worked didn't it
Cops can be stupid and incompetent. Who in his right would let a New York Italian pretend to a latino and a member of the Latin kings 👑
Charlie picked it up the guy sounded Italian
He is a ‘Latin King’ in that he probably knows phrases like ‘corpus delicti’, ‘quid pro quo’, ‘post mortem’ and ‘magnum opus’, just from hanging with the office gang and the Markel case.
I’m not sure why they did not talk with her longer. They could have asked her questions and she would have talked. Instead she called her son who knows more about these type of things.
What difference Defence? CHARLIE Donna and Katie took that bait... they are 1000% guilty ... if innocent they would have went to the FBI or police.. they did not
After he walks away from her, NO "Heyyyy, WHAT are you TALKING ABOUT??? - you have the wrong person, guy!!" GUILTY AS SIN.
While talking with Donna, the undercover agent was way too polite and formal (and white) to be a Latin King gang member.
Indeed
Well, it worked though. It got conversations started and that's what they were aiming for.
@@marshapieroni6677 Yes, but it was a risk.
@@nathanjamesbaker
Why? Firstly, Rivera repeatedly said this wasn’t a Latin Kings operation.
Secondly, a lot of people in the Latino community have half or step siblings who are white.
Also, a lot of people who aren’t actually Blood Brothers call each other My Brother.
They might actually not be related at all and say My Brother.
@@wildmercuryfilms It was still a risk. It would have been more believable if they used someone who actually looked related by blood to the killer.
She walking very fast she scared
Undercover's voice during the bump was way too normal and professional sounding.
This should be made into a movie! Truth is Stranger than Fiction!
“Don’t be scared” should have told her that this wasn’t a gang member. In fact, his entire speech told her that he wasn’t a gang member. Thank goodness Charlie was as cocky as he was, if he were humble, he might have gotten away with it.
She's obviously involved but that was tough to watch. Did they send their best detective out there to do that? Pretty pathetic and now a pretty weak piece of evidence.
It worked.
Brilliant.
Like others, I find her body language very revealing. As soon as he walks away, she folds the letter and tucks it in her purse. I would personally have told him “you have the wrong person sorry” and would not have taken the envelope and walked off. If he followed me, I would tell him “leave me alone or I’ll call the police” or have gone into a restaurant/store. If I did take the envelope, (which is unlikely if I had no idea what was in it or why I was given it), I would have opened it immediately and read it there because I would want to know “what in the world is this about?” If I didn’t understand it and had nothing to do with it, I would just tear it up and throw it in the nearest garbage, thinking it was sone type of delusional person saying nonsensical things in public. She quickly hid it in her purse like she was aware of the contents and wanted ti read it/discuss it in private. They would not even have taken the time to call the number on the letter if they did not know they could be in jeopardy. I think a jury will sense these things from the tape and actions they took.
It's amazing how stupid people are to throw there lives in the toilet so to speak over something so senseless!!
False: She immediately knew what it was because it had a big picture of Dan on that sheet of paper.
@@wildmercuryfilmsso is her defense saying she took it as a clue to help with investigation as to who really killed Dan??
Jesus, how did these people not know they were undercover agents? Real gangsters wouldn’t speak like this and especially wouldn’t say thank you 😂
The undercover 100% sounded like a cop
Lol he's supposed to sound like a Latin King? 😂😂😂
The defense attorney grasping at straws.
It's not grasping at straws read the federal rules of evidence they didn't have the exact copy of the note.. which is _hearsay_ and in most cases would not be admitted into evidence. The police bungled that
Exactly. You don’t remember exactly what was written did you? It’s like a phone number and a dollar amount! It’s not like some IKEA cabinet assembly instruction list
Problem with this being public is people know how to circumvent this situation.
Nothing Latin king pin about him goes to show how out of touch with reality Donna is.
All the lawyers sit in comfy chairs on rollers and Katie M is in a hard wooden chair. 😢
🎉🎉uf a person came up to u and said yhese people are being take n care of and this person is not. U werent involved u would say i have no idea what ur talking about. Donna didnt say that.
Goddamn- What's up with CrAzyFeEt Dugan??? 13:20 - That coffee must be HITTIN'! LOL
Nice podcast...Wendi is so snarky, deceptive and just outright lies that a jury will see thru her evasive remarks. Jeff is a gem...and will give the jury a real insight into the Adelson madness....
This case is the perfect example that illustrates the importance of hiring true professionals such as a hit man that knows they must do things such as use stolen cars for transportation in the job. A professional hit man is going to know that cars are now always caught on camera during most of its travel relevant to a crime. That these idiots got caught based on the most obvious issues facing anyone intending to commit a crime is proof that they are not pro hit men. If your hit man gets caught, it is a high chance that you will go down with them. There are fundamental questions that must be asked during an interview when hiring someone.
This undercover dude was so glaringly obvious, clown level undercover. That Adleson’s fell for such an obvious goofy decoy is sort of unbelievable, yet not really as this family (whomever the guilty parties ) sure were not equipped to do a hit and get away with it.
10:06 Donna's, I'm about to lose my sht moment. 😂
I would have gone straight to the police. However, this family are criminals and so full of themselves it’s disgusting! They all must be held accountable!
Donna Adelson is going to jail, her son Charlie is in jail - the father Harvey will change his will and leave everything to Wendi and her two sons - why? because son Charlie is either going to get life in prison or the death penalty - Donna is going to get a number of years of jail time -- as for the oldest son his mom and dad - Harvey and Donna do not approve of the oldest sons Indian wife and do not speak to him --- Wendi masterminded this to be the sole executor of her Dad's multi million dollar estate.
Oh my GOD!!!! I absolutely LOVE Native Americans. What tribe is his wife in? This is beautiful!! You’ve made my day!!!! Thank you
@@wildmercuryfilms From India not Native American Indian
There has been multiple travesties of justice in this dreadful case - for Wendi not to be charged for her obvious involvement, would be yet another one.
She already knew she didn’t look at immediately or anything plus I would had been taking a picture as he walked off
Donna is next and I'm 95 percent sure Wendi is involved...any thoughts?
if you can't tell that's a cop, then you're clueless. No Latin King talks like that.
Oh she is DONE OVER FINISHED👿!!!!
I would say I don’t understand I don’t speak English and just walk away lol
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Oh Donna...oh donna...oh...donna...
I had a girl Donna was her name...
Since she was indicated I haven't been the same...
Lol
Trust no one ! Lol
During the "Bump", the undercover agent did not sound convincing as a thug! First of all, he was too polite to Donna Adelson on the street. A real bad guy wouldn't tell Donna not to be scared. He just wouldn't care. Most of the time he sounded like a regular educated guy with no accent, then he exaggerates the accent while saying, "Tuto", " Tato.". It was so blantly unrealistic, corny and laughable.
Poorly thought out bump. Wrong undercover chosen. No copy of document given to Donna kept. Plus could have left out a few details like mention of Kathy
Police can be very incompetent
It worked and got them talking
@4:52 did someone forget to turn off their microphone?? What do we think her lawyer was saying?? During the undercovers deposition did he say that he didn't remember what the paper said and now all of a sudden he does remember?? I'm guessing if I just waited and watch the video I'll find out but I'm impatient lol
no way she just accepts this guys letter and words if she's innocent. if she's innocent, no look of terror on her face and she's asking him a million questions. she doesn't just let him walk off. if she looks at the photo on the paper of dan markel she call the cops immediately since she knows dan was shot and killed and this guy may have info on the killer.
She seemed perplexed.
Yeah perplexed they were caught
When was she appearing to be perplexed? Before or After she placed the note in her purse? An innocent person would be outrageous by the approach of a stranger and certainly wouldn't accept a threatening note.
@@2bcYT She didn't know the note was threatening when she accepted it. She even told her son that she thought it was a process server at first. As for why she took the note, maybe it was to get the guy to leave her alone. Indeed, the first thing out of her mouth was the guy scared her. And he did leave her alone after she took the paper.
It's hard to know how one would react in a situation like that even if innocent. Would you humor the person to get out of the situation, or would you risk provoking a bigger confrontation with a large, strange man? Nobody knows until it happens to them.
The point is, this video alone says nothing about guilt.
@@nathanjamesbaker The FBI Agent tells DA that "we know that your family has been taking care of Katie..." If she didn't know who Katie was or know her family had been taking care of Katie then there's no reason for DA to accept the note. She should have walked away. Then, CA messed up by calling the ph # on the note.
We don't visually see Sig Garcia fire the weapon at Dan but he did. In investigations, you don't always take only one piece of evidence to prove a crime but the entirety of the clues taken together and shaken down will show that the crime occurred and by whom.
@@nathanjamesbaker I don't know how I would react but know one thing for certain. If I were an innocent person I would have hightailed it to the police station immediately. Pronto.
It's really interesting to see and hear The Defense Lawyers when they're Trying so Hard to Have their Clients To Take Them" OFF the HOOK." And the thing is ,they Can Sleep and Eat Properly knowing they're Defending the Perpetrators.
Very talented professional women
Let’s call Wendi smart now . And yes she is a trained lawyer. She was in from conception of murdering her ex. However she made sure she didn’t use phones and emails in the plans, whilst her mother and brother did. She should and must be arrested soon. She’ll be proven guilty in court or she proves her innocence in court. Just arrest her now ..
If some random guy walked up to me and made thise statements and Inwas innocent, Id be asking are some kind of crazy lunatic and what in the world are you talking about?
I wish we could see him especially since he won’t be on anymore stings since he is retired lol
9:26 - oops ouch...
which one of those fits best?
wow maybe
the dominoes start to fall right there...PS - as with Stephanie Lazarus, there is something about Donna having to rearrange her hair - fighting for mental composure and it's only getting to get worse from then on.
- oops: I shouldn't have done that so many years back
ouch: this company acts fast...
let me get out of there,
maybe to Vietnam of all places!
- as if Vietnam had not suffered enough from Americans on their soil...
gee whiz, Donna!
RIP
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Sarah Dugan is the real hottie here.
Volume is awful
"They will find you unless think you're already dead."
Hans Gruber
Jail the rest of your life = $5,000? Cheap.
Like Dave from X22 report always says it's the cover up that gets you.
That is an interesting angle re: Wendi's clothing, and never intending to reach the restaurant
His job has got to be very stressful.
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You can't hear her
Love everything you write and actually laughed out loud about the BELIEVE IT!!!
Even the ones with perfect teeth need something to smile about.
The way the two prosecutors stand erect in their heels gives me the horn!
🇺🇸 Message to our great prosecutors -- Georgia and Sarah. 😇 Please offer Katie, Garcia, and Charlie each - independent "sweet" plea-deals 🍰 to "fess up" and testify to the complete truth ! 🔥 Only the snake that bites first gets the deal. I believe It is well worth-it to get ALL the co-conspirators. 👺
Wendi, you must know at this point. They have you. What are the odds mom 100% sheltered you? It didn't happen. She was upset that you were so bad to Charlie. She was not careful, but careless. You are ALL going down, with the possibility exception of Harvey. Harvey seems as morally gross as you all, but perhaps he can die alone in the house and not in jail. What a family!
Kathrine should testify against wendi take them down with her . As wendi looked over at katrin 2 times when she was testifing at katrins trial. Never did wendi feel horribke that because of her katrin charlie and her mom and few other people are gonna get life?.
Where did this take place? Was it on South Pointe?
She must of pooped her diapers. She knew at that moment not to read it and get to the car. I herd she called wendi. They saw the phone records than. Alled charlie wich we here. They all need to turn on wendi. Charlies gonna get life Kathrine got life one of the others got life and the other on in the green car got 7 years cause he turned. They all need to turn on wendi cause she is the one that got all of them involved. She got so mad when the defense attorney said everyones here because of u.
Pant suit in court is unprofessional!!
I love the defense Atty LaCoste
You have really poor taste
I think she’s an arrogant unprofessuinal who convinced her client not to take a plea as she could win her case.
I also think it highly unprofessional to be paid by the Adelsons to represent a potential murder or of their sister’s children’s father.
If they would have kept it gone and waited for these arrest, they would of had the mother father and Wendie too, the arrest would of still been able to happen for Sigfredo and Katie, Luis was already in jail, there is no way they can go free, finish the job!
What!🤔
Is that the prosecutors sister next to her?
Don’t think so.
Please tell me your question is not solely based on the fact that they both have straight blonde hair 😩😩😩😩
@@amyc9155 No, they look exactly like each other. Then you add the fact they're the same height and same hair. It's not crazy to suggest they may be sisters when the 2 women defense attorneys are sisters.
@@hermanmudgett8830 I apologize I had no idea that the two defense attorneys were sisters. My bad.
@@amyc9155 no prob!
She can pick her grandkids up live down the street from her favorite daughter wow good life hah Wendi took Dan life away so ur crazy narcissist mom can be happy and down the street take care of them guess Donna karma is a b because u can’t see ur grandkids and ur daughter and ur son hahaha
Wouldn’t it have made sense to have an intimating guy do this. This guy was polite and had no Spanish accent. The bump was a good idea but poorly executed.
Exactly!!! Perfect comment!!!! It didn’t work, the investigation ended, and no one was ever arrested.
This is the worst bump o have ever seen. The fbi guy is so polite, he even tells her so nicely not to be scared. They blew it with this.
Wrong! This triggered all the conversations on the wiretaps which lead to magbanuas conviction and Charlie's arrest
@@anthonym3351 doesn’t mean it wasn’t bad. Had he been scary and intimidating like he should have been they would have been confessing long ago
@@Miadolph427 the guy who done the bump agrees with you, he felt it didn't go well and that his calls to the adelsons went better. I've always felt that their confusion in trying to figure out who he was got them talking more.
How would a real LK handle this?