Focus ST CP-E Front Mount Intercooler Install and Dyno Test for Power Gains!
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Killer video! We appreciate you putting in the effort to show what the intercooler is truly designed to do. Much love Cameron!
Custom Performance Engineering, Inc. do you have to have a tune to gain power with the front mount.
@@camgrubb8965 we actually do e-tuning and custom dyno tuning in house via our engine calibration and product engineer Mitch. Short answer: yes!
Custom Performance Engineering, Inc. what’s the difference between one of these and something like a Cobb or deepo intercooler
Is it safe to use stock piping for the cpe FMIC. I’ve heard ppl having problems with hoses blowing off
@@jacobroberts147 yes it is. 20k miles since I've installed mine. Just make sure you TIGHTEN your boots, and I mean TIGHTEN. I did the hair spray method as well
I wouldn't have bought an ST without your channel... and I'm in love with this car. Thanks man. Your content for an st owner is priceless.
cannot agree more. guy’s a beauty.
Good stuff bro! Enjoying seeing your installs and the progress on your FoST. I got mine in 2018 and just recently decided to start investing in mods.
I really want to focus ST and I'm glad that you have these videos online for me to look at it helps a lot when I know exactly what I'm doing the charge air temperature thing is very helpful especially when it comes to tuning the cars and knowing what you're doing
So you have one yet?
I just installed the 5.5" CPE last week and my ST is sooo much happier!
i just bought a performance intercooler on my 2015 bmw X5 35DIESEL, can't wait!!! I've seen around 20hp gains across all platforms of cars with this modification, AMAZING!
Awesome video, big homie! Keep it up. Killer ST build.
I put an RS intercooler on my ST and while i can say it isn’t as efficient as this intercooler even on 100 degree days im barely over 100 charge temps so for those looking to get an intercooler on the cheap and are staying stock turbo rs intercooler is an option
Just got my cpe front mount pumped for some gains💪
I just got an st same color, 2017 46,800 miles is more modded than i thought 😂 i thought it was just modded intake ,exhaust and accesport, turns out it has hi flo catted down pipe, bov, cpe front mount, just bought a intake and symposer delete, and weighted shift knob once those arrive time to find a pro tune, thabks for the vids
Just did this a few days ago. Iz very nice.
Did mine two weeks ago. But I also did cp-e exhal kit (hks) and hot side pipe. Wish I did these mods a lot sooner!
Michael Sutton video please
Did u get a hks bov on stock turbo that's a waste of money
Love the build so far i was wondering if you are
tuned? And if you full bolts on ? Im trying to tune mine lol loving your build
Such a cool lil car, would be a fun daily
My first mod was my Intercooler. Still on stock tune. Just going to go straight to big turbo.
I love having a larger turbo
thanks for the info bro I'm installing mine this weekend i first mod intake and intercooler on a stock tune.
jspoon did you notice any big differences on stock tune?
@@jaredj1160 Upgraded intercooler on stock tune allows you to continue to boost and does add power as the intake air temperature is one of the numbers the ECU uses to determine timing advances. Definitely should get a custom tune but replacing the stock FMIC should ALWAYS be the FIRST mod that any ST owner does.
Eventually wanna do this to my fusion
The end song is dope!
Next stop turbo smart waste gate to hold boost top end
Nice vid! I’m assuming this is not the light weight version. Did you consider it?
I don’t know if they still do it but the. Subi STIs had a water sprayer on it
I just recently picked up a 17 ST and I’m looking to start building, I decided this was gonna be the first thing however I’m curious if there’s any local meets you go to so I could pick your brain regarding this car
Great video! Thinking about doing this same mod on my ST. Did you change the tune from the stock intercooler to the CPE for your two dyno pulls?
benjamin reynolds he was already tuned for e 30
Just ordered mine due to this video. Let cpe know!
Nice
The only other downside is the car is tuned for hot dry conditions. What you need is a self tuning type of program.Vividracing has a self tuning programs
Best mod
All you need now is a proper tune from JST performance.
So you're getting that power with an e30 tune right?
What about the fan, doesn't it run constantly with just blanking the cable for the active vents? I'm new to all this so be kind 😃
gains, bro. gains
Do you have different spark plugs with your tune?
Did you tune it while on the dyno, or where they just 2 tests with and without the Intercooler?
what kind of lightbulbs are you using? :)
Was that Dyno run on e30?
Awesome video man. Are you full bolt on with the e30?
Have you heard of the ESP fmic? Is it one worth getting it is way cheaper but does that mean it wont be as good?
So ironic I was looking at getting a bigger inter cooler for my car but wasn’t sure how big of a result it would give.
Intercooler is that best mod for the st because it let's you make way more consistent power
Dope
I love my CPe lightweight (yeah right..its still 900lbs lol) FMIC. It keeps temps at 20 above ambient when driving..works great!
You really should look into a super simple instal/upgrade... redline tuning hood struts. Get rid of that silly hood prop. its $100 and makes a HUGE difference every time you want to open your hood and work under there. Plus you get rid of that silly prop all together. Im on a Stage 3 Cobb OTS tune (93 octane), and otherwise fully bolted. Curious where Im at with my power levels..but it def feels pretty good! Love your ST..its come a long way from a wing riser (not my style lol) and your 'first wash' ^_^
dham99 you gotta get an etune! The OTS tunes are super mild. A stratified tune would cost like 100 bucks for a 93 tune and would be a crazy noticeable, especially for stage 3! They make safe plug and play tunes based on your mods
So you’re rockin the light weight fmic. I’m considering this one. Are you still happy with it?
lol called this shiz last video since you actually left a shot of your new inter cooler already installed in the video and that at the end of the video it was off again rofl!!!
Finally!
Must have been on 0 or 1 smoothing for correction I think I saw. That adds 8-12 hp and tq, whereas 5 smoothing is the norm and only adds 2 hp & tq.
How long did this install take you start to finish?
Wow.
Was this on E30? Or 93oct with the upgraded FMIC
It's 295 hp with tuner though. How much without a tune?
Could someone help me I need to know the size of the bolt that holds the sensor on the intercooler accidently dropped it and can't find it now
Cleannn
Just a question for anyone, I have a focus se hb and want to mod it both visually and performance what should I do?
Will my focus still pass smog in cali
What are all the mods you have?
I see you didn’t install intercooler pipes and left them stock. I’ve wondered about doing this, with the power youre making with stock piping, you helped me make my decision.
so you're still running stock piping?
I would also like to know how the car has been with the stock piping
Was this on the e30 blend?
Another great video! You should get the msd coils and see if you notice a difference.
What are those coils and where can you get them ?
@@oceanhome2023 DO NOT mess with the coils on these cars. A pointless mod that's known to cause problems. Stock coils are fine for pretty much all power levels on EcoBoost/ST engines.
Did you have to "retune" for the intercooler? Id appreciate a mode list in the video details.
Watch his “st modification for dummies” video. Has all the mods on the car
Was this pull on E30?
Who makes the crash bar. Have the mountune FMIC and its too tall. It works but that bar would allow so much more headroom. Sweet.
Hows the mountune intercooler holding up? Any regrets? I'm between that and the cpe...
So I have the ford performance calibration and no AP or tune. Would I see similar results for more consistent pulls where the engine just keeps going because it doesn’t heat soak or would I need to tune it to continue giving power?
Just get the upgraded intercooler and your charge air temps will never go above 10 degrees over ambiente and you will make all the power that your tune is supposed to make, if it has 250whp in stock intercooler will heat soak after one gear at full throttle maybe more than 15hp, with the bigger intercooler the power will be the same in every gear, from down low up to redline that equals to go alooot faster!
no u won't I had the procal for my focus st upgraded 3.5 fmic /////mountune recirc valve/// intake ///and charge pipes on 91 I got 240whp and 340TQ tbh the pro cal sucks after 4k rpm I bought Ap I got tuned through edge im make 280whp 340Tq on 91 pump gas I don't have Dp and im not tuned on 30 yet tbh it feel a lot safer on ap and getting it tuned then the pro cal
You got it right with CPe, nice choice! I'm sure you'll get your Depo fan boys saying theirs is better, but honestly they're not, cheaper yes, but far from being a true innovative company, they're just another company hoping to take your $. With pretty much everything you buy, you get what you pay for.
Does anyone actually think Depo makes better stuff than cpe? CPE is top-of-the-line ... Depo is Chinesium. It gets the job done but their stuff is cheap crap and when compared to quality brands like Garrett and cpe, it's easy to see.
@@orangejjaythat sounds like 100% opinionated rhetoric
Have you installed the steeda clutch spring assist yet?
Jamie Fehr does it really make that much of a difference?
To increase horsepower, what modification should I make first?
Accessport and tune
Intercoolers do not add power. They keep the stock power there during warm or hot conditions and moderately spirited runs.
They allow power to be accessed that couldn’t be before, they add power karen
Time for a G25-550 upgrade.
How's the sti man. Shes gotta be broke in by now. I wanna hear you do some pulls in her. I just got a 2011 impreza sti hatchback and I frickin love it man.
I AM THE GOD - I thought that too, his STI videos usually garner a lot of views, so it’s a mystery why he doesn’t post more updates
@@matts6551 he says it all the time. Its a learning channel. Jeez, you JDM Fanboys are relentless 🤣
@@interceptingfist5682 I've been watching cameron since he got the mazdaspeed 3. You dont have to call us "JDM Fanboys". I enjoy watching all of his videos, I always have. I was just wondering what's going on with it since he got the motor rebuilt. You don't have to be a d*ck about it kid.
Is there any tuning to the ECU, or just bolt on and go?
Just D8vid2 Cobb acessport is in . It has e 30 tune
Goodspeed huh?? I went to them several times in the last 12 months, they specifically said they do not tuning or do Fords, ST's, etc. I also was looking for cold side charge pipe upgrade. They really lost me at their lack of knowledge in terms of assistance on where to take the ST for tuning. And I totally want to avoid COBB because they just seem to screw up tunes for anything not a Subie or Evo, or MS3. Is it ossible to get a device to monitor my systems?
Edge auto sport tuned this car remote via e-tuning. The guys at goodspeed are good friends of mine so they let me use the dyno. The Cobb accessport is great, pair that with a tuner like Alan from edge and you will be happy and you don’t even have to leave your house to get these things 🏁
This has to be the first video I have ever seen with some hard data (from the AP) showing instant results. I wonder why no one has ever done this before. The charge air temp doubled with the OEM intercooler. Ford should be embarrassed. I wonder if the blue fan position influenced the results. Hmmm
knurri the fan is their to produce air like your drive down the road. I have cobb front mount with 2.5 inch charge pipes. Cobb acessport tune. I run 3 degree colder then ambient temp outside. Intercooler is a must for focus st.
@@brianshaffer9347 is cobb intercoller same like cpe the one used in video whats the deffrence?
@@brianshaffer9347 just so you know it's actually impossible to go colder than ambient. It's literally against the laws of thermal dynamics. Unless the charge temps are being cooled by refrigerant like a interchiller which will take it below ambient. Food for thought!
What’s the BEST intercooler for this car ?
Dude anything is better than stock but I’m thinking about going with the CPE 5.5” intercooler because I plan on going big turbo in the future.
Is it okay to put a intercooler on without running a tune first ?
Yes it’s perfectly ok. Honestly it’s probably safer to do that but you won’t notice much different until you tune it. I’d rather do the intercooler first
Where is the sti
Hi, I have a focus hatchback SEL and will like to do some mods, what will be the first thing I have to do. Thanks
Window tint
Turbo
Just by instaling the intercooler you gain that power without remap ?
Yes. Colder intake air temperatures allows the computer to run increase timing and boost to make more power
So I'm looking into getting a FoST, do I HAVE to be tuned to upgrade the intercooler?
I'm a new ST owner as well. From what I've seen and read even the stock tune can quickly overwhelm the stock intercooler especially in hot environments. You can see the difference between the stock and after market intercooler in the video, it's insane. Even if the stock tune can't make full use of the efficiency of the after market intercooler it will still be a benefit as it will take much longer to heat soak. If you have plans to go to an after market tune later installing a new intercooler now means you'll make more power when you do go to a new tune.
No, you can upgrade the intercooler all by itself with no tune. That's what I did.
Why didnt you need the bracket? Whats usdm?
_DM means _Domestic Market. USDM is US Domestic Market. So it was made for the USA. Now that doesn’t just mean American brands, a car from Toyota made to US regulations is a USDM car. Just like how a mustang made to Japanese regulations would be a JDM car.
Is this with the stock turbo?
For sure, no one goes big turbo before touching their intercooler.
l like tas,,
You left a lot of loose ends to this video .. you have to remove the crash bar or move it up to slide the fmic in if you don’t have a aftermarket crash bar
Match it up with CPE intake.
Was that power gain from just the FMI?
im pretty sure he is also running an e30 tune
So you will only get this much of a gain with e30?
Real talk. Where the F do you jack your car up. I can't jack from the pinch weld and put stands under it as well.
I jack it up from the center very carefully on the pinch weld that's covered by the skirt. Then place both jack stands and then lower it.
@@CameronAlford I have 94 octain avalible in my area. Can I get the same gain result like your e 30?
Nice video cam,,, have a Q,,, was the second dyno pull instantly after the 1st...or much later? I don't understand how the car was sucking hot air with the new cooler, and then instantly showed much cooler air....are you saying the ecu only took a few minutes if that, to adjust timing ect, and make more power?
I thought you need a tune for a upgraded front mount inter cooler? Maybe i’m wrong I own a BRZ lol
He’s already tuned
No, you don't need a tune just for an intercooler.
You don’t, but to see big power upgrade you need to tune.
@@brianshaffer9347 matters who tunes it. Could ruin the car if a so so technician did it.
newest bear you want good tuner to do it, you will have to buy a cobb acessport . I’m tuned by mountune myself. But going to switch tune soon. For e 30 , I’m stage 2 and tuned.
Are these things reliability a myth. I'm process of deciding what car to get next.
They're reliable. Just know how to drive a turbo car and perform basic maintenance and you're good
@@interceptingfist5682 I'm talking about manufacture faults. The head gasket mishap and thin open decks? Haven't seen videos with failure just forums floating around. The rumored 2021 sti might be worth waiting for first anyway.
newest bear if you are looking at an 2021 STI then look at focus RS instead that’s like a 25,000 dollar difference
@@skimshadythere's prices for 2021 already? I don't trust the rs reliability from the factory to begin with and not intohatchbacks. Used to like them more but have lpst interest.
@@remissiveslave you have the cars mixed up, that's the RS you're thinking of. The ST doesn't have the head gasket issue.
No intercooler install and no dyno
What happened to the Subi 😥
when you live in cali and they wont sell to you:(
Bruh for real. I just ordered the Mishimoto one
Where the Subaru video at!?
Hopefully you can get back to me on this ! I’m planning on buying my first ST here in a couple of months and I’m curious if you can do mods in any order you want? This is my first “performance” car and i want to make sure i do everything right for it
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I'll give you a few weeks, or first AZ heat, till you blow those stock charge pipes... SMH
You don't need aftermarket charge pipes. That spray will help them hold on, so will hair spray. Get it together, dude
They won’t blow off for 2 reasons, one - this intercooler is set back like the stock one is leaving not much wiggle room for the charge tubes to pop backward, 2 - he’s clearly clamping them tight.
Why wouldn’t you upgrade them to bigger pipes.? I bought a cobb myself, it came with 2.5 pipes so I upgraded them. Just wondering why you guys haven’t?
@@brianshaffer9347 not much difference on a stock turbo. If you're running an upgraded turbo then it's optimal. There's no harm in doing it though. More power to you
What a piece of Crap. That Prius PHEV colour looks INSANE!