Dude this is crazy, I bought a rear motor mount last week and it should arrive tomorrow. AND BOOM! You dropped this video right on time!! It's just what I need. The install part is super helpful. Thank you so much, wish I can subscribe ten times. BTW really enjoying the new camera angle. It shows your shifting, and love the sunny road view.
My early ‘13 ST-2 came with the standard Focus 2.0L rear motor mount. It was fine for the 160 hp. grocery-getter but totally inadequate for the 270 ft.lbs. of the Ecoboost motor. I upgraded to the FoMoCo heavy-duty RMM that was designed to control the low RPM torque of the Focus Electric. It became standard equipment on most ‘14 STs and all later models, and is the standard RMM on all Mk IIII Focus RS. After switching to the heavier rear mount 8 years ago, I have had zero issues with the motor having excessive motion on hard acceleration. The best solution to traction in our cars is putting in a limited slip differential.
Agree. I tried the CPE Stage 2 RMM on my '11 Mazdaspeed 3 and found the increased road noise deafening and the ~1500rpm resonance extremely irritating. The Focus Electric RMM (CM5Z-6068-A) was the perfect compromise, less floppy and jumpy than the OEM Mazda part with no discernable increase in NVH.
Just did this to my 14 as well as tmm and pmm ! Couldn’t recommend this mod more ! Exhaust sounds better as well as the motor feels solid shifts feel better. Love this
Exactly what I was thinking ! I have upgraded motor mounts in 2 different cars and had to replace both of them because they were TOO STIFF . I could not stand the engine vibration BAD ! I had to find a softer motor motor mount . On my VW I was able with a 1/4 drill bit made 6 holes in the erothane material that made it not as stiff . So I hope that these are not TOO stiff .
I'm surprised there isn't a replacement part for the secondary piece that attaches to the trans case. Seems like the bushing on the end of that would become the new weak point and may require a little more rigid or just larger radius bushing.
Whew glad I found out that he did not re install his under engine cover (under mount) because I haven’t put mine back in place for a week because I hate taking it on and off and it gets more thrashed every time I change my oil .
I have a few friends who did not like the noise and vibration from this they re installed the old motor mount and inserted 3 large bolts in the rubber gaps of old one and it fixed it . You might want to re enforce the old one with some shims to see if it works for you, it won’t cost you any money
Great video man! as always! Its nice when you can find such guys like you who does these builds and tells a lot of details in regards to the installation of those mods. Thanks
I bought my car a couple months back and I was watching videos to see wha t to upgrade first and I got this mount after watching your video. I had a shop rep[lace it today and my car had a COBB mount on it. Let me just say this mount you have is amazing. I felt a better improvement with it after driving my car. the COBB one had a lot of vibration to it. Now just need to change my shifter bushings, bracket bushings, and install my short throw shifter.
Real helpful man, especially the POV on install...just ordered a steeda rear sway bar...rear motor mount may (now) be next. Thanks for posting the vid.
I turn wrenches for a living and I’m 5 foot 8 155pounds. My point is, when you need extra leverage on a wrench or the end of a pipe, I use my legs, literally. For instance, I had to work on a tractor boom and the arm which the boom rests on is bolted to the tractor and sometimes with a cabbed tractor, especially small ones, there is always one bolt that has to be installed and removed completely by hand. I’ll brace myself on the tractor with my arms and literally use my feet to tighten/loosen a nut or fastener.
Appreciate this with your results. I’ve read the reviews from Fswerks RMM and it’s nearly the exact same as this. Cheers from Michigan bro. Candy blue 12 Focus SE hatch 5 spd with a black RS wing 😅 If you haven’t gotten a short throw shifter for it, it’s the easiest install you’ll ever do. So much fun to shift!
Did you notice anything about the catless downpipe reducing drone at low RPM's? It seems like it would have a similar effect as long tube headers where its quieter until you're on it
I know I'm late here, just purchased a 2015 st and it has some sort of neoprene mounts and they are junk. My entire dash wants to jump off every time I engage the clutch. I'm reverting back to stock to enjoy the oem ride quality. Don't plan to race or anything just love the car
I have a magnetic phone mount as well but mine also does wireless charging. Less cord clutter is mo betta. How far south in Gilbert are you? Usery pass isn’t far from you lol I used to live in eastmark
I know this is off subject from the motor amount replacement but I was curious if u replaced your wheel studs with extended ones and if you did where and if you got those and if you could let me know please and thank you
Sam S you send your stock turbo into a company and they build it. Basically, they make your stock turbo more efficient which adds more power. TurboBay is a good company that does hybrids for only around $900-$1100. You should make around 315-320 on a Focus ST with their hybrid
Question, you said you don't need the bracket for the downpipe because it's sturdy when it's catless. I installed a catless downpipe but it still had the holes to add the bracket again. I bemt the bracket when taking it off cause it was seized (Canadian winters seize everything) and now it rattles like bolts in a blender. Can I remove that bracket to stop the rattle and it'll be sturdy/safe?
I installed the mountune rear motor mount and reinstalled the stock mount because the vibration was unbearable for a daily driver, especially when using the AC...wonder why your thoughts on that are
@@CameronAlford I have a problem with my 2013 focus st, I have about 177 thousand km wich is about 109thousand mile. The problems are hesitation on the gas right after realsing the clutch. Another problem I noticed upon start up it does exactly how you explained in video 9:56 but with vibration. Can it be broken rear motor mount ?
@@johnm5081 I just figured out my air filter was done just put green filter its alot better. Spark plug are also done and Im pretty sure my rear motor mount is diffected wich is causing this rough idle.
Is this one better than the Cobb one or the CPE? I know they are different in price but maybe because the name? Someone let me know, about to buy the Cobb RMM soon
are you still using the touring conversion for the exhaust? im still debating the AWE exhaust and just wanted to know which one you were driving with in this video specifically
Damn.. try pulling off the OEM RMM on a Veloster N Two days later and my arms are still sore as fuck. I barely could get those bolts off. (I was doing that and the FMIC.. so I’m sure I’d be less beat up if just doing one.. but honestly the motor mount was way more a pain than the intercooler. Hard to get good leverage when there is 2” of space between my face and the bottom of the car (Car on ramps, decent sized torque wrench
Bro did you know wath is a torque specs 😩😮💨. Just can't thigh the bolts like that . The torque spec is 70lbs for the mount and the axle mount . 30lbs for the other little bolts
Hey, i just did my cobb RMM yesterday. My FoST pulls a lot nicer but for some reason it’s vibrating pretty hard could it be i torqued the main center bolt too tight? or is it just getting used to it. Thanks
Now that you have owned MS3 and focus ST, which is better and why? I’m looking into picking up a daily hot hatch, either of those or even GTI, 500 Abarth, Hyundai Veloster/Electra gt
From a previous owner of a Veloster turbo imo don't choose not a bad car to start out but mod wise not many products out there, but current owner of an Focus ST I've had nothing but a blast ST or MK3 pretty much same car but a GTI if you wanna make quick power with a few mods and enjoy dailying it given better interior quality etc etc then GTI
@Sam S yeah can second that but Indo disagree with Mazda and or Ford being dodgy but that's just my opinion, one downside of the GTI's are usually you're gonna play 1.5x more for the same parts like intake intercooler etc etc but yeah also velsoter can't handle alot of power either, I blew my engine at 250 HP
Ms3 or gti. I have an ms3 rn but im not too worried about it blowing up on me or anything, i got it with super low miles. Such an amazing and fun car, cant go wrong with it tbh.
Thanks everyone for the feed back. I am even considering a Mini Cooper s or fiesta st, part of me wants a frs/brz or older sport coupe, but I’m leaving a 09 mustang so I definitely want somethings that’s fun, cheap insurance, and good on gas
Ace625 A they compare pretty similar in my opinion, my buddy has a 18 Wrx I have a 17 St and we both feel like the cars drive and handle similar. (We have both drove each other’s cars). I love my st being only front wheel drive sucks but, it’s a sweet all around car I love it
Thank you for a great install video of our mount!! 🔥🍻
Dude this is crazy, I bought a rear motor mount last week and it should arrive tomorrow. AND BOOM! You dropped this video right on time!! It's just what I need. The install part is super helpful. Thank you so much, wish I can subscribe ten times. BTW really enjoying the new camera angle. It shows your shifting, and love the sunny road view.
My early ‘13 ST-2 came with the standard Focus 2.0L rear motor mount. It was fine for the 160 hp. grocery-getter but totally inadequate for the 270 ft.lbs. of the Ecoboost motor. I upgraded to the FoMoCo heavy-duty RMM that was designed to control the low RPM torque of the Focus Electric. It became standard equipment on most ‘14 STs and all later models, and is the standard RMM on all Mk IIII Focus RS. After switching to the heavier rear mount 8 years ago, I have had zero issues with the motor having excessive motion on hard acceleration. The best solution to traction in our cars is putting in a limited slip differential.
Agree. I tried the CPE Stage 2 RMM on my '11 Mazdaspeed 3 and found the increased road noise deafening and the ~1500rpm resonance extremely irritating. The Focus Electric RMM (CM5Z-6068-A) was the perfect compromise, less floppy and jumpy than the OEM Mazda part with no discernable increase in NVH.
Just did this to my 14 as well as tmm and pmm ! Couldn’t recommend this mod more ! Exhaust sounds better as well as the motor feels solid shifts feel better. Love this
How can the exhaust sound better?
I got the most aggressive mount from JBR and I love it. Makes the whole car vibrate. The interior is falling apart. Ain't care.
Exactly what I was thinking ! I have upgraded motor mounts in 2 different cars and had to replace both of them because they were TOO STIFF . I could not stand the engine vibration BAD ! I had to find a softer motor motor mount . On my VW I was able with a 1/4 drill bit made 6 holes in the erothane material that made it not as stiff .
So I hope that these are not TOO stiff .
you guys still have interiors?
I'm surprised there isn't a replacement part for the secondary piece that attaches to the trans case. Seems like the bushing on the end of that would become the new weak point and may require a little more rigid or just larger radius bushing.
Sick view. Finally a view that shows the shifts
Whew glad I found out that he did not re install his under engine cover (under mount) because I haven’t put mine back in place for a week because I hate taking it on and off and it gets more thrashed every time I change my oil .
I have a few friends who did not like the noise and vibration from this they re installed the old motor mount and inserted 3 large bolts in the rubber gaps of old one and it fixed it . You might want to re enforce the old one with some shims to see if it works for you, it won’t cost you any money
What do you mean exactly by 3 large bolts in the rubber gaps? I’m curious on doing this in my ST. Thank You
Great video man! as always! Its nice when you can find such guys like you who does these builds and tells a lot of details in regards to the installation of those mods. Thanks
I bought my car a couple months back and I was watching videos to see wha t to upgrade first and I got this mount after watching your video. I had a shop rep[lace it today and my car had a COBB mount on it. Let me just say this mount you have is amazing. I felt a better improvement with it after driving my car. the COBB one had a lot of vibration to it. Now just need to change my shifter bushings, bracket bushings, and install my short throw shifter.
Lol overly hyped for the sti build xD legit thought this was going to be that xD
Real helpful man, especially the POV on install...just ordered a steeda rear sway bar...rear motor mount may (now) be next. Thanks for posting the vid.
Maybe buy a torque wrench "oh yeah we don't want this puppy coming off", tightening to that's the best I can do maybe is not the right way.
just ordered mine off CFM thanks brother
I turn wrenches for a living and I’m 5 foot 8 155pounds. My point is, when you need extra leverage on a wrench or the end of a pipe, I use my legs, literally. For instance, I had to work on a tractor boom and the arm which the boom rests on is bolted to the tractor and sometimes with a cabbed tractor, especially small ones, there is always one bolt that has to be installed and removed completely by hand. I’ll brace myself on the tractor with my arms and literally use my feet to tighten/loosen a nut or fastener.
How do you have irl auto tune 😂 9:57
eerfevol pr I just fucking laughed so hard at that. Thank you 💀😂
eerfevol pr wtf I noticed that also 😂
Appreciate this with your results. I’ve read the reviews from Fswerks RMM and it’s nearly the exact same as this. Cheers from Michigan bro. Candy blue 12 Focus SE hatch 5 spd with a black RS wing 😅
If you haven’t gotten a short throw shifter for it, it’s the easiest install you’ll ever do. So much fun to shift!
where did you get your short throw shifter?
Did you notice anything about the catless downpipe reducing drone at low RPM's? It seems like it would have a similar effect as long tube headers where its quieter until you're on it
Those bolts for the rear motor mount are supposed to be torqued down to the correct amount of pounds😬
How many pounds?
Great video !
I know I'm late here, just purchased a 2015 st and it has some sort of neoprene mounts and they are junk. My entire dash wants to jump off every time I engage the clutch. I'm reverting back to stock to enjoy the oem ride quality. Don't plan to race or anything just love the car
Are you in AZ?, That's my home town and I'm moving back after the Navy. Would love to meet you and go on a cruise.
Currently trying to channel your energy though this video to help me get the one bolt in the back off I’m pretty sure I stripped it
can this be done with ramps? instead of jacks
Thank you for a great install video !! Thumbs up
You could see the whole engine rocking when when you were loosening the old down pipe bracket bolt
Ooh, I really like those wheels!
nice video. rev matching helps with the jerking when downshifting. i’m sure you know this by now lol
I've been thinking about investing in a lower motor mount, might have to get one now
@Sam S is that a common issues with the ST having inferior engine mounts??
I would love to know the rim and tire size on this car
Bro. What jack do you use. That thing goes really high. Me want one. 😮
do they get softer over time ??
Does this work for the SE ?
I think I'll be picking one up soon.
I have a magnetic phone mount as well but mine also does wireless charging. Less cord clutter is mo betta.
How far south in Gilbert are you? Usery pass isn’t far from you lol I used to live in eastmark
I've been thinking of buying one, just not sure if I should get this one or the Cobb one
Had to sub, I'm out in Surprise AZ. Great content!
Just a simple thank you Cameron, thank you 💯💯🤘🤘
What are the torque values for all the fasteners?
Damn I wish the corksport mount on my 1st gen Mazda6 was this easy lol.
hows your gas milieage with that accessport
I know this is off subject from the motor amount replacement but I was curious if u replaced your wheel studs with extended ones and if you did where and if you got those and if you could let me know please and thank you
You're over tightening things.
Up 100 hp
What is the function of this spare part?
That thing sounds meannnn🔥🔥
You should put a hybrid turbo on it, you dont have to do so much to it like a big turbo
Sam S you send your stock turbo into a company and they build it. Basically, they make your stock turbo more efficient which adds more power. TurboBay is a good company that does hybrids for only around $900-$1100. You should make around 315-320 on a Focus ST with their hybrid
Sam S exactly! Good information. I’ve never been into the hybrids cause it seems too knockoff. I’ve heard good and bad things about them!
Question, you said you don't need the bracket for the downpipe because it's sturdy when it's catless. I installed a catless downpipe but it still had the holes to add the bracket again. I bemt the bracket when taking it off cause it was seized (Canadian winters seize everything) and now it rattles like bolts in a blender. Can I remove that bracket to stop the rattle and it'll be sturdy/safe?
How would you get a striped bolt out of the torque dampener
I installed the mountune rear motor mount and reinstalled the stock mount because the vibration was unbearable for a daily driver, especially when using the AC...wonder why your thoughts on that are
Buy the CFM one, it’s not as stiff so it’s good for a daily
@@CameronAlford I have a problem with my 2013 focus st, I have about 177 thousand km wich is about 109thousand mile. The problems are hesitation on the gas right after realsing the clutch. Another problem I noticed upon start up it does exactly how you explained in video 9:56 but with vibration. Can it be broken rear motor mount ?
@@totov7673 have a tuner adjust/increase your idle rpm
@@johnm5081 I just figured out my air filter was done just put green filter its alot better. Spark plug are also done and Im pretty sure my rear motor mount is diffected wich is causing this rough idle.
@@totov7673 glad to hear you figured out the problem. What brand mount do you have? I was thinking about getting one but I've been reluctant
You should do another speed3 2nd gen build
Is this one better than the Cobb one or the CPE? I know they are different in price but maybe because the name? Someone let me know, about to buy the Cobb RMM soon
Save your money! They do the same thing
Cameron Alford you’re my hero 😭😘
Base model manual focus go brrrr 🗿
are you still using the touring conversion for the exhaust? im still debating the AWE exhaust and just wanted to know which one you were driving with in this video specifically
I did this exact exhaust setup as well, and LOST... ALL... my low end torque. :-(
tune
15:10 when Cameron realized he needed a mustang LMAO
What's the name of those wheels
where did you get ur back up camera?
I don’t remember seeing you do a video of cat less down pipe!
Damn.. try pulling off the OEM RMM on a Veloster N
Two days later and my arms are still sore as fuck. I barely could get those bolts off. (I was doing that and the FMIC.. so I’m sure I’d be less beat up if just doing one.. but honestly the motor mount was way more a pain than the intercooler. Hard to get good leverage when there is 2” of space between my face and the bottom of the car
(Car on ramps, decent sized torque wrench
Bro did you know wath is a torque specs 😩😮💨. Just can't thigh the bolts like that . The torque spec is 70lbs for the mount and the axle mount . 30lbs for the other little bolts
using a chrome socket on an impact.
for $100? nahhhhh my passenger gonna have to deal with a lil head wobble here and there 😅
Hey, i just did my cobb RMM yesterday. My FoST pulls a lot nicer but for some reason it’s vibrating pretty hard could it be i torqued the main center bolt too tight? or is it just getting used to it. Thanks
How does the Cobb feel now?
Foci normally sounds so good but ....FART CAN!
Now that you have owned MS3 and focus ST, which is better and why? I’m looking into picking up a daily hot hatch, either of those or even GTI, 500 Abarth, Hyundai Veloster/Electra gt
From a previous owner of a Veloster turbo imo don't choose not a bad car to start out but mod wise not many products out there, but current owner of an Focus ST I've had nothing but a blast ST or MK3 pretty much same car but a GTI if you wanna make quick power with a few mods and enjoy dailying it given better interior quality etc etc then GTI
@Sam S yeah can second that but Indo disagree with Mazda and or Ford being dodgy but that's just my opinion, one downside of the GTI's are usually you're gonna play 1.5x more for the same parts like intake intercooler etc etc but yeah also velsoter can't handle alot of power either, I blew my engine at 250 HP
Ms3 or gti. I have an ms3 rn but im not too worried about it blowing up on me or anything, i got it with super low miles. Such an amazing and fun car, cant go wrong with it tbh.
Thanks everyone for the feed back. I am even considering a Mini Cooper s or fiesta st, part of me wants a frs/brz or older sport coupe, but I’m leaving a 09 mustang so I definitely want somethings that’s fun, cheap insurance, and good on gas
I even like the Lexus CT200, not a ethicists car but damn it looks good and mpg is insane
That a standard colour for the st over there ?
No haha
Switch up that rear valance man stock one is so fkin ugly. Otherwise love it!
How does st compare to wrx and SI and what not?
Ace625 A they compare pretty similar in my opinion, my buddy has a 18 Wrx I have a 17 St and we both feel like the cars drive and handle similar. (We have both drove each other’s cars). I love my st being only front wheel drive sucks but, it’s a sweet all around car I love it
Hey cameron, how are you dealing with the catless dp? I just installed one on my mazdaspeed 3 . And the smells are kinda bugging me lol
You might have a leak? You'll also sometimes smell it when you come to a stop but that should be normal.
What year?
John Johnson 2016
Had one fitted it completely changed the car FOR THE WORSE so much vibration on idle I’m taking it off tomorrow don’t waste your money
No torque wrench 😂😂
I thought it was a poly motor mount 🤷♂️
Loads of vibration, have to turn off the AC now at every junction and when idling. Makes no difference other than ruin your day
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