Love the small scene of the teacher in chapter 1 doesn't care about about the professions the students will choose because everyone wants to become a hero foreshadowing gentle's arc
Funny. Many of these Quirks can be useful in careers besides Hero. You just have to be creative. Todoroki could work in a restaurant, cooking the food with his fire and making ice cold beer with his ice. Not to mention he's both a heater and an air conditioner. Yaoyorozu can create whatever she wants using only her tits. She could create expensive stuff and sell it. That's probably why her family's so rich. Uraraka could do all kinds of jobs making things levitate. She even says so herself. Kaminari is a human electricity generator. We all use electricity.
Tbh I kinda feel like everyone wanting to be a hero is a bit unrelastic. Most people in mha don't even have good quirks. And even then being a hero is an extremely taxing job
One of the many reasons I hate the hero society so much. Is that being a hero is a CAREER CHOICE, not a simple act of kindness because they "Care". Like my Fav Hero is Spider-Man, and the reason for that is the fact he does it because HE WANTS TO. He doesn't want fame, he just does it because of his Kindness and Responsibility for the people of New York. While the Pro Heroes wake up every morning being like: "Ughhhh I gotta go to work today, I have to save people and be famous". They don't do it for responsibility, they do it for the money.
Thinking about it, I actually have to agree. Especially after everything that’s happened through the series. Well I mean technically everything went downhill in season 5 and 6. This all makes sense now!😮
Act 2 of MHA's the best because Hori just doubles down on showing how ugly a modern world with superpowers would be, especially one that just lost its own "Superman"
It's also great too see how the Hero Commission/the government fully supports this flawed society by removing important support structures for people with issues because it creates villains. More villains =more heroes who fight them, more heroes = more money = more power for the Hero Commission.
Yeh it actually make non quick become villain defeat then commision and government powerful make superhero popular and avoid the problem of non quick problem
When it comes to superhero stories, the one theme that the story makes kinda obvious, is that sometimes having a superpower makes you feel special and unique (Invincible, Spider-Man, Flash, X-Men ( “Xavier’s school for GIFTED youngsters”) MHA completely throws that out and creates a world that’s kinda UN-unique. And yesterday I came to realize something. The MHA universe was the EXACT goal and ideal society that another Superhero franchise’s villain sought. Can you guess who?
@@carolinemohr60 you are correct sir…about Syndrome. I don’t know about Magneto. I get his past is tragic which makes him hate us Homo Sapiens. In the first X-Men movie he tried to mutate most of Long Island…baby steps is what I call that.
In many superhero anime, I'm usually drawn to characters with somewhat different powers, or no powers. Who doesn't love Sokka from Avatar, for example? And in Bleach, where everybody's a Shinigami or a Hollow, Chad was always my fav character. I'm still pissed that Kubo kept fucking Chad!
@@Ben8484 MHA is actually somewhat Magneto's ideal society. One where the Mutants/People with Quirks are in the majority and the ever shrinking Quirkless population is looked down upon. Although he'd probably detest the heteromorphs being discriminated.
Because the heros aren't actually ready to sacrifice their lives for the greater good when shit hits the fan, they aren't truly passionate about being heros, they just see it as another career.
It’s stated that a lot of heroes do this job just for fame and money. Not all heroes are that passionate in saving people like All Might. That’s why Stain exists, to kill the ‘fake heroes’ in society. All Might is a true hero who does his job not for fame, but to protect the civilians. That’s why he never gives up in tough situations. Not everyone can be like that.
In addition to what others said, crime rose because more than being a hero, All Might was a symbol. His seemingly effortless victories and godlike power scared off would be criminals even when he was not all that active in actually stopping crime in his later years. The idea of All Might was so powerful that society changed around it, and with him gone things collapsed. Criminals were un frightened and many heroes were uninspired.
I really really liked all of this stuff. And it's for sure important. I'd say what people mean (or at least I mean) when I say MHA struggles with portraying the gray society by... kinda just letting it hang there. At first it's not so bothersome since the first act mostly focused on the "Academia" part of My Hero Academia, as well as the relationship between Deku and Bakugou. But as it goes on, it the fucked up shit becomes VERY in your face. And you can no longer just see it as an interesting thought in the background. It's now something that'd you expect to be the most important thread in the plot. But... it doesn't really FEEL that way the way the main characters address it-- if they address it at all. Whenever we switch to the perspective of the heroes... they aren't worried of societal reform because they're more focused on much more immediate threats or just personal issues. None of them make any real statements or admit fault. The ones who do admit fault, are talked out of feeling at fault and explain to audience why it's not so bad because it all kinda worked itself out in some way (manga readers know which character does this the most). Our lovable protagonist never has or says any specifics thoughts on the matter until very recently and even then it's more like "I want to know more about these bad things" and less "this is bad and here's how i feel about it". Just when you think he's being forced to confront these issues... BAM a more immediate threat appears and he conveniently can just set his sights on them for now. This might be intentional. But it feels kinda wishy washy. And like the author is afraid of people disagreeing with his characters. So he goes to great lengths to make them as agreeable and safe as possible. It starts to feel like our main characters are just on the same page consistently. No longer any drama on their moral disagreements like we used to get with Deku and Bakugou's differing takes on what makes a hero (particularly All Might) great. Or Iida and Deku often clashing on when and when not to follow the rules. Now it's like "Stop whining, villain! Sure, our hero overlord has been secretly a messed up person that may have affected you and many others personally, but he always does a great job maintaining the status quo that continues to put down you and various others at every turn so THERE!" I really wanted to make a short comment, oh my gawd...
I really appreciate you for putting into words why recent MHA starts to feel shallow for me. I would like to add though, the recent conflicts of feels like the world revolves around Deku and Bakugou maybe sometimes Todoroki.
It's really jarring that we're supposed to expect that the heroes (both main cast and literal) are going to make the world better when all we're shown is evidence to the contrary or insanely empty we'll totally make it better once we beat the shit out of you and don't listen to anything you say. Most of the contrary evidence comes from the adults like Endeavor and Hawks (who is in his early 20s so...) but then we see Shoji Tentacole's big moment advocating for incredibly harmful and stupid plans to be done. And Deku, Uravity, Shoto, All Might, Erasurehead, etc propose nothing, other than wish really hard and invest in system that was causing all the harm to begin with. We don't even see anyone even think maybe the ranking system isn't a good idea with how Endeavor used that as a reason to throw a 24+ year long temper tantrum where he abused his family continuously
@@caleb_artzs2533 Todoroki has always been the third wheel of MHA. They put him side-by-side Deku and Bakugo, give him an insanely overpowered quirk, cool backstory...only for him to kind of sit in the background. Even when it comes to his family, Endeavor and Dabi are the most active, Todoroki is just there as an extra motivator.
Yep, pretty much summed up why I like Gundam so much- going into a new show, I have no idea if the guys for or against the status quo will be the "good" guys.
Personal headcanon theory is that the only reason why people think of villainous quark as villainous quirks is because all might basically made flashy the more respectable quirk even though there's a possibility that flashy quirks were more thing before but well I can tell you all might didn't help
How the law makes you a criminal if you use your quirk for a good and selfless deed unless you have a license is messed up. It reminds me of the bad reality of adults not growing and they want to stop kids from growing. The majority of adults want kids to believe they can’t do or know anything or are just incapable of anything until their 18 or older despite them already showing that they can do something. They’re messed up philosophy is that you need to stay in your lane and stick to just watching cartoons and playing video games and yet our parents want to get mad at us for doing that and say you’re wasting your potential. That’s why we have people in their 20’s and even 30’s just wasting their time and lives. It’s so sad
Great video overall, and I especially love the connection between Himiko and Kegare. I feel like that concept is something that isn't really that well-known outside of Japan, despite some of my favorite Japanese properties making great use of it (even though it often gets overlooked in favor of more overt themes).
MHA is a fascinating case of a an attempt to create a Golden Age Comic Book society, where the good guys always win And everyone feels Happy. THe truth However is vastly different. The society of MHA is Dressroras and Goa from One Piece, where the cleanness is on a pedestal while the garbage is hidden. Inequality is obvious while being hidden. The villains are those who were shoved away from society. The over saturation of heroes has lead the common people to believe they don’t need to be good, someone will do it for them. At the same time not all heroes are real heroes. They are fakes in it for money, recognition and easy life style. They aren’t even properly graded. Like in OPM the Hero association has a proper grading structure based on skill strength and feats. In MHA the public opinion decides on your rank. Like the fact that eraser is not top Ten bugles the mind. I’m patiently waiting the moment when the heroes are dealt a loss and society flips on them.
This is something that fascinates me because i have to wonder: what was Hori's vision for the heroes? I ask the question because it seems like he goes back and forth between "heroes are great" to "heroes are bad" on an inconsistent basis and it feels like MHA has no idea for what it wants to portray their heroes and that is one of the many aspects that fails the manga. Having hero society be more closer to The Boys TV series would have been better since on top of showing realistic consequences of pro-heroes being super famous celebrities it also dives deep into the idea of "what it means to be a hero" and if fighting for a just cause means that one has to become a "villain" in order to uproot the corruption and discrimination of hero society.
@@stefanradebach2889 I think MHA's hero society is actually way better than The Boys. These guys aren't the only ones with powers in their world and aren't insanely depraved, their more like superpowered policemen. The idea of heroes isn't bad and in fact we are shown time and again that there are true heroes, which is why Stains ideology is flawed, but that there are systematic issues that even they can't face. The portrayal of heroes in MHA is one of its strong suits.
great video, and the best part about this, these examples you made, later blossom witch the war and after it. it’s one of my favorite things about mha and its for me what makes realistic in a sense, of how society works in a hero infested world.
Combative quirks or quirks suited for heroics are a dime a dozen, everyone with a decent enough quirk wants to be a Hero because of how glamorized the Hero job is. However, from the Aldera school, we can tell only a handful of students have powers suited for heroics. You can bet, that most of Izuku's classmates failed to enter any single school, and now they're stuck in common high schools or working mediocre jobs.
An overabundance of people wanting to be Heroes? Wait until the sequel, "My Hero Graduation", where tons of UA grads are unemployed because there are too many Heroes.
UA only allows a certain amount of people to enter, and of them some don't pass. It's not open ended options like becoming an electrician. Plus I imagine the turnover rate us fairly high with injuries, people dropping out from low pay, and burnout
@@staydetermined6717 A protagonist like Gabi Braun from AoT would be good for that kind of sequel. Someone who's brainwashed by Hero society and actively benefits from bending over backwards for Hero society.
And it shows how many people with a quirk were just doing it for attention or to feel like they're something great and then instantly want to quit being a hero just cause they're scared or there's a deadly villain that's causing chaos being a hero is not a job you can take a day off from you choosing to be a hero you either are one or your not and your gonna have to see bad stuff regardless if you want to or not
I love the My Hero Academia universe I love that everyone around 90% of the population have powers that’s so cool I would love to live in the MHA universe it feels like the X-Men but more than just being a group of people it’s the whole world who has powers it’s just a awesome idea
Thanks for this. I made quite a ways into the manga and stopped for some time. It never felt like Bakugo's behavior was acknowledged. Was that on purpose by the writer? Bakugo always hurt my immersion.
Trust me, I like the idea and all, but I'm not gonna watch a show where therr are like 200 characters introduced and only 4 of them get development (like how Mineta or Koda was never touched almost) and this happens a lot, I don't like the show in general, but I really like the villains.
@@spiderclabaslashiearea8984 Well, yeah, some of them are side characters. Moreover ................the setting is HIGHSCHOOL, so there are going be a lot of characters. Have you seen or read Harry Potter? Lol
“You people. You heroes in order to save strangers you don’t know you hurt those who love you. That’s what my father said. Pointless? I have a mission. Always have. Self described heroes you pretend to embody all that’s good. Your kind is always the same. Every generation. You pretend you don’t see those you can’t protect and cover up the pain you cause. Always thinking of yourselves as righteous. This world has grown so rotten, it’s infested with maggots. Happened little by little your mistakes added up. The coddled trash got used to being protected. While you took advantage of these so called victims for your own profit. Everything that I’ve ever known. Everything in this world you built rejected me. But not now, I’m the one who’s rejecting you. That is why I destroy. That is why I keep gaining power. It’s simple isn’t it, and yet you just don’t understand. The fact that you don’t get it is why we have heroes and villains.”
I’m really shocked that you don’t have more subs because I love your channel and your take on BNHA. I’m a fan of the show and I respect your criticism of it Edit to add: I just subbed
I feel like a lot of people would change their mind once they saw Touga or Shigerakis backstory. Touga can be seen as being seen as evil for having a mental illness. Its stated that quirks can have an effect on your personality and seeing how her quirk is literally her drinking peoples blood to be like them it made her kill someome she loved cu she wanted to be like him. Instead of finding a way to help her they told her to suppress it and made her think she was evil for somwthing she cant control. Its such amazing story telling. Then theres shigeraki who suffered at the hands of the glorification of heroes and almight which led to the bystander effect we see today. They passed him along instead of helping him beause they knew "somone would eventually come". Its actually awful. Its like saying "i dont have to be kind because someone will be kind enough for me later today". Its horrible thinking and really shows the flaws of the society perfectly
There many types of heroes. I am more interested in sociological and psychological aspects of being a hero. First if you are a hero you destroy morales of others, those who know they can not succeed. Hero always will have that in mind. Which makes everyone a loser.
About the fact that being a hero as a job is morally... not great: I'm 50/50 on this. On one hand, it's really morally grey to have money-hungry people at the top of the chain. Not to mention the capitalistic mentality of their agencies that kind of force them to stay in that position and appear a certain way for the sake of marketability. On the other hand, being a hero would be a very time-consuming effort, and it really wouldn't be practical for someone who has a regular job. It only would make sense to monetize the position so that the heroes aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck or losing their jobs because they were missing to fight a villain. One possible way to fix this would be to have a very specific personality test done for anyone who wants to become a hero, in order to weed out the greedy. However, this might be seen as tedious by the mass population and over-the-top. What about if someone can't become a hero due to their inability to express themselves well through the test? It's a very interesting thing to delve into - the makings of a society, especially one like BNHA. My only issue is that it kinda doesn't get brought up that often in the series. The only people who even bring it up are the villains. But the side of supposed good doesn't really ever mention it. It gets mostly brushed off by the hero society itself, and generally unquestioned. Even when the villains bring it up, the heroes just... go deaf. They hardly even acknowledge what was actually even said. They're so stuck to their ideologies that they can't fathom it being wrong. I feel like that's a major thing that needs to be talked about more in the series, because in reality, those thoughts do actually stay at the back of your mind whether you realize it or not. More than just a few of them would probably go through a crisis before finally gaining their ideals back. That conflict in itself is not the problem. The problem is that it straight-up doesn't occur in the series. When is Deku ever gonna start questioning it? I wanna see him contemplate it for once. That would be some much-needed personality growth for him, instead of power growth only. He needs an inner conflict that actually makes him question himself. ... I doubt that'll ever happen, but I can dream lol
Unpopular Opinion, I feel like the comment section is too scathing of Hero Society. The way everybody talks about it, you would think My Hero Academia is a perfect mirror of America in The Boys. At most I see Hero Society as having problems no one has touched for years, not exactly systematic issues that justify the fall of said society in order to create a better world. Let’s bring up something sort of covered in the video: Heteromorph Discrimination. Heteromorphs are people with mutant quirks, quirks that make them resemble animals for instance. We don’t really see any discrimination in UA or Hosu City and many heroes are Heteromorphs. However, life in the countryside may as well be how things were for Black People in the American South during the days of Jim Crow. Mutants can outright get attacked for interacting with other people, no matter the circumstances. Discrimination is such an issue that thousands of Heteromorphs side with the villains in the thousands in the Final War Arc. While mutants do suffer discrimination, it doesn’t seem to be state-sponsored like how the X-Men and Magneto constantly have to deal with government attempts to persecute mutants. While some Heteromorphs have negative experiences ranging from the horrors they face in the countryside to people viewing them as being likely to become villains, plenty seem to have avoided such experiences and have had normal lives. I’m tempted to say it’s something like cities being more progressive and the countryside being backwards, but I think it’s more just some parts of the world are accepting and others aren’t, regardless of the presence of heroes possibly. Perhaps years ago there were Heteromorph equivalents to Black Lives Matter that successfully fought for mutant rights. However such groups lost public support as society figured they did enough, that there were enough places of equality. Think along the lines of how no one helped Shigaraki because they figured a Hero would step in. Hero Society certainly has failed Heteromorphs, but it’s not because society has it out for mutants and is cruel, it’s because it’s done some good and doesn’t feel like it has do finish up the journey to equality. There was progress, but that progress has stopped or at least slowed down to the point mutants think backing the Villains will start things back up. Next, the Hero Public Safety Commission. Some people seem to think the HPSC killed Villain Terrorists and Corrupt Heroes in secret to maintain a flow of money and power. Personally, I think the HPSC follows the line of “The Road to Hell is Paved With Good Intentions”. Think Cadmus in Justice League Unlimited. The people they’re killing are bad people, not good people. But they label them worthy of death instead of being put on trial and locked up because they think people wouldn’t be able to accept that not every hero is pure. And when their assassin got sick of her job, they locked her up and covered up the reason why. The modern HPSC is technically better by comparison. Given the attitude of the new president disagreeing with what the last president used to do, assassinations are no longer an option. However it seems Hawks was trained to be a spy instead. Hawks might have infiltrated many villain groups and corrupt hero agencies before the time of the story. Different methods, same goals. Granted, this is speculation. Change is needed, but I don’t think the HPSC needs to be toppled. Though a number of people in the organization would probably go to prison of course. And finally, Stain. Plenty of people in the comments view MHA Heroes in the way Stain does. Because heroes are in commercials, have a ranking system, and get paid, they’re just a few steps away from being like Supes in The Boys. Granted, some heroes take popularity a little too much into account for their heroics. Endeavor abused his family to have a son who could surpass All Might, a wasted effort given how he finally becomes number one. And so many heroes, even in the top ranks, walk away when Japan nearly collapses and the Villains are at their strongest. Heroes are absolutely still people and thus can be as flawed as anyone else. However it’s shown that genuine heroism still plays a large part in the motivations of most heroes. Unlike the world of The Boys, Hero Society doesn’t damage these beliefs leaving only the celebrity status of being a hero. Even heroes with secret lives like All Might mostly wear their true emotions on their sleeves. Sure, the teachers could have done more to curb Bakugo. If he lived in the world of The Boys, he would be a lot like the other Supes. However I think if he graduated without being humbled by Izuku, Bakugo would prove to be unpopular. Even the teachers and students acknowledge that Bakugo can come off more as a villain in personality. Either Bakugo would change his ways alone or Hero Society would punish him by stopping paying attention to him. In a funny way, Deku might have saved him. Hero Society isn’t a utopia. For every evil villain, another villain simply wishes society looked out for them. Most Heroes are just like the ones we follow in DC and Marvel. However there is a minority that are likely similar to the Supes in Vought and are high enough in number to catch the attention of the HPSC. Even in the majority of true heroes, they can’t or don’t ignore the celebrity side of their job. And not every person accepts every Quirk. Hero Society can do better. It must if it wants to end the threat of Villains forever. But for all the surface comparisons to The Boys, MHA’s world is not one that Vought or The Seven would thrive in for long if they never changed. To me, The Boys is My Hero Academia exaggerated and worst case scenario, if you ignore the difference in origins of superpowers.
My issue is useless Quirks being allowed in how tf does Ojiro get in that's like the US military allowing a 300-pound woman who only has one arm and has a stuttering problem and can't read into the Navy seal. Another issue even in the war arc is why tf arent other countries helping it's not making logical sense why isn't China and US sending their top 5 Heros to help attack One for All? The rest of the world is just chilling while Japan a top country in the world is facing huge deaths and fights??? Ik people are going to say well Bate came to Bate and Captain Celebrity if his cannon comes in at the start of the war arc is over. it doesn't make much sense
Love the small scene of the teacher in chapter 1 doesn't care about about the professions the students will choose because everyone wants to become a hero foreshadowing gentle's arc
Everything foreshadows Everything If you work the angle a bit
Funny. Many of these Quirks can be useful in careers besides Hero. You just have to be creative.
Todoroki could work in a restaurant, cooking the food with his fire and making ice cold beer with his ice. Not to mention he's both a heater and an air conditioner.
Yaoyorozu can create whatever she wants using only her tits. She could create expensive stuff and sell it. That's probably why her family's so rich.
Uraraka could do all kinds of jobs making things levitate. She even says so herself.
Kaminari is a human electricity generator. We all use electricity.
@@alexvaughan1013 I believe its been said that in universe people with electric quirks are less likely to be heroes because jobs pay a lot for them
Tbh I kinda feel like everyone wanting to be a hero is a bit unrelastic. Most people in mha don't even have good quirks. And even then being a hero is an extremely taxing job
Bruh the people in izuku class has some really bad quirks like a piece of wood for a head 💀
One of the many reasons I hate the hero society so much. Is that being a hero is a CAREER CHOICE, not a simple act of kindness because they "Care". Like my Fav Hero is Spider-Man, and the reason for that is the fact he does it because HE WANTS TO. He doesn't want fame, he just does it because of his Kindness and Responsibility for the people of New York. While the Pro Heroes wake up every morning being like: "Ughhhh I gotta go to work today, I have to save people and be famous". They don't do it for responsibility, they do it for the money.
Plus he does out of guilty because he fail get his uncle killer and I remember there were many time he want to quit being a hero
Wow that's very interesting how heroes we knew compared to the heroes in this anime
Thinking about it, I actually have to agree. Especially after everything that’s happened through the series. Well I mean technically everything went downhill in season 5 and 6.
This all makes sense now!😮
You honestly expected perfection?
Act 2 of MHA's the best because Hori just doubles down on showing how ugly a modern world with superpowers would be, especially one that just lost its own "Superman"
Totally agree. Shit reaches its peak when Hawks and Twice come to blows.
It's also great too see how the Hero Commission/the government fully supports this flawed society by removing important support structures for people with issues because it creates villains. More villains =more heroes who fight them, more heroes = more money = more power for the Hero Commission.
Yeh it actually make non quick become villain defeat then commision and government powerful make superhero popular and avoid the problem of non quick problem
When it comes to superhero stories, the one theme that the story makes kinda obvious, is that sometimes having a superpower makes you feel special and unique (Invincible, Spider-Man, Flash, X-Men ( “Xavier’s school for GIFTED youngsters”)
MHA completely throws that out and creates a world that’s kinda UN-unique.
And yesterday I came to realize something.
The MHA universe was the EXACT goal and ideal society that another Superhero franchise’s villain sought. Can you guess who?
Magneto? Syndrone?
@@carolinemohr60 you are correct sir…about Syndrome. I don’t know about Magneto. I get his past is tragic which makes him hate us Homo Sapiens. In the first X-Men movie he tried to mutate most of Long Island…baby steps is what I call that.
Huh, I guess it’s true what they say, when everyone’s super, no one will be
In many superhero anime, I'm usually drawn to characters with somewhat different powers, or no powers. Who doesn't love Sokka from Avatar, for example? And in Bleach, where everybody's a Shinigami or a Hollow, Chad was always my fav character. I'm still pissed that Kubo kept fucking Chad!
@@Ben8484 MHA is actually somewhat Magneto's ideal society. One where the Mutants/People with Quirks are in the majority and the ever shrinking Quirkless population is looked down upon. Although he'd probably detest the heteromorphs being discriminated.
If MHA has so many freaking Heroes, WHY does society go to shit when All Might retires??
Because the heros aren't actually ready to sacrifice their lives for the greater good when shit hits the fan, they aren't truly passionate about being heros, they just see it as another career.
It’s stated that a lot of heroes do this job just for fame and money. Not all heroes are that passionate in saving people like All Might. That’s why Stain exists, to kill the ‘fake heroes’ in society. All Might is a true hero who does his job not for fame, but to protect the civilians. That’s why he never gives up in tough situations. Not everyone can be like that.
In addition to what others said, crime rose because more than being a hero, All Might was a symbol. His seemingly effortless victories and godlike power scared off would be criminals even when he was not all that active in actually stopping crime in his later years. The idea of All Might was so powerful that society changed around it, and with him gone things collapsed. Criminals were un frightened and many heroes were uninspired.
I know its very late but its because all those other heroes are basicaly useles due to an overreliance on almight
@@Gambler408 Just like how the Band of the Hawk were fuck-diddly-ucked after Guts left. Over-reliance on one person.
I really really liked all of this stuff. And it's for sure important. I'd say what people mean (or at least I mean) when I say MHA struggles with portraying the gray society by... kinda just letting it hang there. At first it's not so bothersome since the first act mostly focused on the "Academia" part of My Hero Academia, as well as the relationship between Deku and Bakugou. But as it goes on, it the fucked up shit becomes VERY in your face. And you can no longer just see it as an interesting thought in the background. It's now something that'd you expect to be the most important thread in the plot. But... it doesn't really FEEL that way the way the main characters address it-- if they address it at all. Whenever we switch to the perspective of the heroes... they aren't worried of societal reform because they're more focused on much more immediate threats or just personal issues. None of them make any real statements or admit fault. The ones who do admit fault, are talked out of feeling at fault and explain to audience why it's not so bad because it all kinda worked itself out in some way (manga readers know which character does this the most). Our lovable protagonist never has or says any specifics thoughts on the matter until very recently and even then it's more like "I want to know more about these bad things" and less "this is bad and here's how i feel about it". Just when you think he's being forced to confront these issues... BAM a more immediate threat appears and he conveniently can just set his sights on them for now.
This might be intentional. But it feels kinda wishy washy. And like the author is afraid of people disagreeing with his characters. So he goes to great lengths to make them as agreeable and safe as possible. It starts to feel like our main characters are just on the same page consistently. No longer any drama on their moral disagreements like we used to get with Deku and Bakugou's differing takes on what makes a hero (particularly All Might) great. Or Iida and Deku often clashing on when and when not to follow the rules. Now it's like "Stop whining, villain! Sure, our hero overlord has been secretly a messed up person that may have affected you and many others personally, but he always does a great job maintaining the status quo that continues to put down you and various others at every turn so THERE!"
I really wanted to make a short comment, oh my gawd...
I really appreciate you for putting into words why recent MHA starts to feel shallow for me. I would like to add though, the recent conflicts of feels like the world revolves around Deku and Bakugou maybe sometimes Todoroki.
It's really jarring that we're supposed to expect that the heroes (both main cast and literal) are going to make the world better when all we're shown is evidence to the contrary or insanely empty we'll totally make it better once we beat the shit out of you and don't listen to anything you say.
Most of the contrary evidence comes from the adults like Endeavor and Hawks (who is in his early 20s so...) but then we see Shoji Tentacole's big moment advocating for incredibly harmful and stupid plans to be done.
And Deku, Uravity, Shoto, All Might, Erasurehead, etc propose nothing, other than wish really hard and invest in system that was causing all the harm to begin with. We don't even see anyone even think maybe the ranking system isn't a good idea with how Endeavor used that as a reason to throw a 24+ year long temper tantrum where he abused his family continuously
@@caleb_artzs2533 Todoroki has always been the third wheel of MHA. They put him side-by-side Deku and Bakugo, give him an insanely overpowered quirk, cool backstory...only for him to kind of sit in the background. Even when it comes to his family, Endeavor and Dabi are the most active, Todoroki is just there as an extra motivator.
Yep, pretty much summed up why I like Gundam so much- going into a new show, I have no idea if the guys for or against the status quo will be the "good" guys.
Personal headcanon theory is that the only reason why people think of villainous quark as villainous quirks is because all might basically made flashy the more respectable quirk even though there's a possibility that flashy quirks were more thing before but well I can tell you all might didn't help
As long as quarks exist the flaws of the Society of MHA will never truly disappear.
How the law makes you a criminal if you use your quirk for a good and selfless deed unless you have a license is messed up. It reminds me of the bad reality of adults not growing and they want to stop kids from growing. The majority of adults want kids to believe they can’t do or know anything or are just incapable of anything until their 18 or older despite them already showing that they can do something. They’re messed up philosophy is that you need to stay in your lane and stick to just watching cartoons and playing video games and yet our parents want to get mad at us for doing that and say you’re wasting your potential. That’s why we have people in their 20’s and even 30’s just wasting their time and lives. It’s so sad
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Great video overall, and I especially love the connection between Himiko and Kegare. I feel like that concept is something that isn't really that well-known outside of Japan, despite some of my favorite Japanese properties making great use of it (even though it often gets overlooked in favor of more overt themes).
this is possibly the most realistic society in any anime
MHA is a fascinating case of a an attempt to create a Golden Age Comic Book society, where the good guys always win And everyone feels Happy. THe truth However is vastly different. The society of MHA is Dressroras and Goa from One Piece, where the cleanness is on a pedestal while the garbage is hidden. Inequality is obvious while being hidden. The villains are those who were shoved away from society. The over saturation of heroes has lead the common people to believe they don’t need to be good, someone will do it for them. At the same time not all heroes are real heroes. They are fakes in it for money, recognition and easy life style. They aren’t even properly graded. Like in OPM the Hero association has a proper grading structure based on skill strength and feats. In MHA the public opinion decides on your rank. Like the fact that eraser is not top Ten bugles the mind. I’m patiently waiting the moment when the heroes are dealt a loss and society flips on them.
This is something that fascinates me because i have to wonder: what was Hori's vision for the heroes? I ask the question because it seems like he goes back and forth between "heroes are great" to "heroes are bad" on an inconsistent basis and it feels like MHA has no idea for what it wants to portray their heroes and that is one of the many aspects that fails the manga.
Having hero society be more closer to The Boys TV series would have been better since on top of showing realistic consequences of pro-heroes being super famous celebrities it also dives deep into the idea of "what it means to be a hero" and if fighting for a just cause means that one has to become a "villain" in order to uproot the corruption and discrimination of hero society.
@@stefanradebach2889 I think MHA's hero society is actually way better than The Boys. These guys aren't the only ones with powers in their world and aren't insanely depraved, their more like superpowered policemen. The idea of heroes isn't bad and in fact we are shown time and again that there are true heroes, which is why Stains ideology is flawed, but that there are systematic issues that even they can't face.
The portrayal of heroes in MHA is one of its strong suits.
great video, and the best part about this, these examples you made, later blossom witch the war and after it. it’s one of my favorite things about mha and its for me what makes realistic in a sense, of how society works in a hero infested world.
5:48 I don't why but I just love this line sm, but aside from that, underrated video as always!!
Combative quirks or quirks suited for heroics are a dime a dozen, everyone with a decent enough quirk wants to be a Hero because of how glamorized the Hero job is. However, from the Aldera school, we can tell only a handful of students have powers suited for heroics. You can bet, that most of Izuku's classmates failed to enter any single school, and now they're stuck in common high schools or working mediocre jobs.
An overabundance of people wanting to be Heroes? Wait until the sequel, "My Hero Graduation", where tons of UA grads are unemployed because there are too many Heroes.
A yes the other problem of this s*** of hero society the work problem
UA only allows a certain amount of people to enter, and of them some don't pass. It's not open ended options like becoming an electrician. Plus I imagine the turnover rate us fairly high with injuries, people dropping out from low pay, and burnout
If there’s a ever a sequel
I wish for it to have more darker tones, and corruption that’s seen as normal to the protagonist
@@staydetermined6717 A protagonist like Gabi Braun from AoT would be good for that kind of sequel. Someone who's brainwashed by Hero society and actively benefits from bending over backwards for Hero society.
"My Hero Graduation" LMAO
This society is flawed, my plan is too destroy it and rebuild it from the ground up - Villain Deku
That's cool and all but what about economy
@@Real_cinderace He'd do that too
I just hate the fact that this is portrayed as being normal and good, and doesn't even remotely get fixed in the end.
And it shows how many people with a quirk were just doing it for attention or to feel like they're something great and then instantly want to quit being a hero just cause they're scared or there's a deadly villain that's causing chaos being a hero is not a job you can take a day off from you choosing to be a hero you either are one or your not and your gonna have to see bad stuff regardless if you want to or not
Louder for the people in the back!
Anyway, a banger as usual. Keep up the good work, Asa!
Fantastic video essay!
I love the My Hero Academia universe I love that everyone around 90% of the population have powers that’s so cool I would love to live in the MHA universe it feels like the X-Men but more than just being a group of people it’s the whole world who has powers it’s just a awesome idea
Thanks for this. I made quite a ways into the manga and stopped for some time. It never felt like Bakugo's behavior was acknowledged. Was that on purpose by the writer? Bakugo always hurt my immersion.
The way I see it, mha's hero society has created more villains than all for one has.
This was recommended somehow great video btw
I think it'd be cool if you made a follow up to this after the anime covers PLW, Villain Hunt, & the U.A. Traitor arc to show how things progress
Always putting out banger videos 🦍🔥
I from somewhere heard that Someone from hero commision wants to Put heroes In the military to become soldiers. wonder how that will go.
Thanks! This video was great, and I liked hearing your thoughts a lot!
I really need Gentle Criminal to come back!
Completely agree with you, sir. People just don't get MHA. Lol And there not trying.
Trust me, I like the idea and all, but I'm not gonna watch a show where therr are like 200 characters introduced and only 4 of them get development (like how Mineta or Koda was never touched almost) and this happens a lot, I don't like the show in general, but I really like the villains.
@@spiderclabaslashiearea8984 umm, more than four of the characters are getting developed. I can count about ten , off hand.
@@Mr2dmonkey but still, there are like... 20 dudes in class 1A right? Some of them literally have almost no screentime lol.
@@spiderclabaslashiearea8984 Well, yeah, some of them are side characters. Moreover
................the setting is HIGHSCHOOL, so there are going be a lot of characters. Have you seen or read Harry Potter? Lol
i´m suprised you are into the fandom of mha only 2 years i´m still since the beguining.
we live in a socitey
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Stain and lady nagant acknowledge every vigilante is a true hero.
“You people. You heroes in order to save strangers you don’t know you hurt those who love you. That’s what my father said. Pointless? I have a mission. Always have. Self described heroes you pretend to embody all that’s good. Your kind is always the same. Every generation. You pretend you don’t see those you can’t protect and cover up the pain you cause. Always thinking of yourselves as righteous. This world has grown so rotten, it’s infested with maggots. Happened little by little your mistakes added up. The coddled trash got used to being protected. While you took advantage of these so called victims for your own profit. Everything that I’ve ever known. Everything in this world you built rejected me. But not now, I’m the one who’s rejecting you. That is why I destroy. That is why I keep gaining power. It’s simple isn’t it, and yet you just don’t understand. The fact that you don’t get it is why we have heroes and villains.”
I’m really shocked that you don’t have more subs because I love your channel and your take on BNHA. I’m a fan of the show and I respect your criticism of it
Edit to add: I just subbed
I feel like a lot of people would change their mind once they saw Touga or Shigerakis backstory. Touga can be seen as being seen as evil for having a mental illness. Its stated that quirks can have an effect on your personality and seeing how her quirk is literally her drinking peoples blood to be like them it made her kill someome she loved cu she wanted to be like him. Instead of finding a way to help her they told her to suppress it and made her think she was evil for somwthing she cant control. Its such amazing story telling. Then theres shigeraki who suffered at the hands of the glorification of heroes and almight which led to the bystander effect we see today. They passed him along instead of helping him beause they knew "somone would eventually come". Its actually awful. Its like saying "i dont have to be kind because someone will be kind enough for me later today". Its horrible thinking and really shows the flaws of the society perfectly
There many types of heroes. I am more interested in sociological and psychological aspects of being a hero. First if you are a hero you destroy morales of others, those who know they can not succeed. Hero always will have that in mind. Which makes everyone a loser.
in portuguese they are called individualidades
About the fact that being a hero as a job is morally... not great:
I'm 50/50 on this. On one hand, it's really morally grey to have money-hungry people at the top of the chain. Not to mention the capitalistic mentality of their agencies that kind of force them to stay in that position and appear a certain way for the sake of marketability. On the other hand, being a hero would be a very time-consuming effort, and it really wouldn't be practical for someone who has a regular job. It only would make sense to monetize the position so that the heroes aren't living paycheck-to-paycheck or losing their jobs because they were missing to fight a villain.
One possible way to fix this would be to have a very specific personality test done for anyone who wants to become a hero, in order to weed out the greedy. However, this might be seen as tedious by the mass population and over-the-top. What about if someone can't become a hero due to their inability to express themselves well through the test?
It's a very interesting thing to delve into - the makings of a society, especially one like BNHA. My only issue is that it kinda doesn't get brought up that often in the series. The only people who even bring it up are the villains. But the side of supposed good doesn't really ever mention it. It gets mostly brushed off by the hero society itself, and generally unquestioned. Even when the villains bring it up, the heroes just... go deaf. They hardly even acknowledge what was actually even said. They're so stuck to their ideologies that they can't fathom it being wrong. I feel like that's a major thing that needs to be talked about more in the series, because in reality, those thoughts do actually stay at the back of your mind whether you realize it or not. More than just a few of them would probably go through a crisis before finally gaining their ideals back. That conflict in itself is not the problem. The problem is that it straight-up doesn't occur in the series. When is Deku ever gonna start questioning it? I wanna see him contemplate it for once. That would be some much-needed personality growth for him, instead of power growth only. He needs an inner conflict that actually makes him question himself.
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I doubt that'll ever happen, but I can dream lol
Not just that lady nagent had to kill people who were a threat to hero society
Shikaragi is a product of hero society's flaws.
Unpopular Opinion, I feel like the comment section is too scathing of Hero Society. The way everybody talks about it, you would think My Hero Academia is a perfect mirror of America in The Boys. At most I see Hero Society as having problems no one has touched for years, not exactly systematic issues that justify the fall of said society in order to create a better world.
Let’s bring up something sort of covered in the video: Heteromorph Discrimination. Heteromorphs are people with mutant quirks, quirks that make them resemble animals for instance. We don’t really see any discrimination in UA or Hosu City and many heroes are Heteromorphs. However, life in the countryside may as well be how things were for Black People in the American South during the days of Jim Crow. Mutants can outright get attacked for interacting with other people, no matter the circumstances. Discrimination is such an issue that thousands of Heteromorphs side with the villains in the thousands in the Final War Arc.
While mutants do suffer discrimination, it doesn’t seem to be state-sponsored like how the X-Men and Magneto constantly have to deal with government attempts to persecute mutants. While some Heteromorphs have negative experiences ranging from the horrors they face in the countryside to people viewing them as being likely to become villains, plenty seem to have avoided such experiences and have had normal lives. I’m tempted to say it’s something like cities being more progressive and the countryside being backwards, but I think it’s more just some parts of the world are accepting and others aren’t, regardless of the presence of heroes possibly. Perhaps years ago there were Heteromorph equivalents to Black Lives Matter that successfully fought for mutant rights. However such groups lost public support as society figured they did enough, that there were enough places of equality. Think along the lines of how no one helped Shigaraki because they figured a Hero would step in. Hero Society certainly has failed Heteromorphs, but it’s not because society has it out for mutants and is cruel, it’s because it’s done some good and doesn’t feel like it has do finish up the journey to equality. There was progress, but that progress has stopped or at least slowed down to the point mutants think backing the Villains will start things back up.
Next, the Hero Public Safety Commission. Some people seem to think the HPSC killed Villain Terrorists and Corrupt Heroes in secret to maintain a flow of money and power. Personally, I think the HPSC follows the line of “The Road to Hell is Paved With Good Intentions”. Think Cadmus in Justice League Unlimited. The people they’re killing are bad people, not good people. But they label them worthy of death instead of being put on trial and locked up because they think people wouldn’t be able to accept that not every hero is pure. And when their assassin got sick of her job, they locked her up and covered up the reason why.
The modern HPSC is technically better by comparison. Given the attitude of the new president disagreeing with what the last president used to do, assassinations are no longer an option. However it seems Hawks was trained to be a spy instead. Hawks might have infiltrated many villain groups and corrupt hero agencies before the time of the story. Different methods, same goals. Granted, this is speculation. Change is needed, but I don’t think the HPSC needs to be toppled. Though a number of people in the organization would probably go to prison of course.
And finally, Stain. Plenty of people in the comments view MHA Heroes in the way Stain does. Because heroes are in commercials, have a ranking system, and get paid, they’re just a few steps away from being like Supes in The Boys. Granted, some heroes take popularity a little too much into account for their heroics. Endeavor abused his family to have a son who could surpass All Might, a wasted effort given how he finally becomes number one. And so many heroes, even in the top ranks, walk away when Japan nearly collapses and the Villains are at their strongest. Heroes are absolutely still people and thus can be as flawed as anyone else. However it’s shown that genuine heroism still plays a large part in the motivations of most heroes. Unlike the world of The Boys, Hero Society doesn’t damage these beliefs leaving only the celebrity status of being a hero. Even heroes with secret lives like All Might mostly wear their true emotions on their sleeves. Sure, the teachers could have done more to curb Bakugo. If he lived in the world of The Boys, he would be a lot like the other Supes. However I think if he graduated without being humbled by Izuku, Bakugo would prove to be unpopular. Even the teachers and students acknowledge that Bakugo can come off more as a villain in personality. Either Bakugo would change his ways alone or Hero Society would punish him by stopping paying attention to him. In a funny way, Deku might have saved him.
Hero Society isn’t a utopia. For every evil villain, another villain simply wishes society looked out for them. Most Heroes are just like the ones we follow in DC and Marvel. However there is a minority that are likely similar to the Supes in Vought and are high enough in number to catch the attention of the HPSC. Even in the majority of true heroes, they can’t or don’t ignore the celebrity side of their job. And not every person accepts every Quirk. Hero Society can do better. It must if it wants to end the threat of Villains forever. But for all the surface comparisons to The Boys, MHA’s world is not one that Vought or The Seven would thrive in for long if they never changed. To me, The Boys is My Hero Academia exaggerated and worst case scenario, if you ignore the difference in origins of superpowers.
Yeah and the sky is blue what else is new
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My issue is useless Quirks being allowed in how tf does Ojiro get in that's like the US military allowing a 300-pound woman who only has one arm and has a stuttering problem and can't read into the Navy seal. Another issue even in the war arc is why tf arent other countries helping it's not making logical sense why isn't China and US sending their top 5 Heros to help attack One for All? The rest of the world is just chilling while Japan a top country in the world is facing huge deaths and fights??? Ik people are going to say well Bate came to Bate and Captain Celebrity if his cannon comes in at the start of the war arc is over. it doesn't make much sense
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You talk too slowly.
after getting comments for an entire year telling me i talk too fast i appreciate this and it made me chuckle
@@AsarathaHSYT i might honest
You pretty good on doing analysis about mha gray society.
If you can do try analysis fullmetal alchemist or gundam 0079
Which society isnt flawed
Mha society being flawed is more realistic