The lack of reactions from the kids is definitely one of the biggest issues. It's like they're not even relevant characters anymore. I was so hyped to see what effect going through this crazy fight and learning about all these crazy revelations was going to have on them. I had so many questions, like "Will any of the students rethink wanting to be heroes and walk away from the fight?" "Will any of the students become vengeful after seeing so much death?" "How will Todoriki, Ochako, and Iida react to the truth about Deku?" "Will anyone be hurt or angry that Deku has struck out on his own?" "Will Bakugo struggle to recover physically from what seemed like a very significant injury, or will having come so close to death have any sort of emotional impact on him?" It seemed like such a perfect time to deepen our favorite characters or ones who haven't gotten the spotlight yet. But instead, it was just... nothing.
@@clintguia7984 Don't give that "it's just an anime" spiel. Plenty of others in the same genre alone have done things similar to MHA without falling flat on their faces. What's its excuse?
It's also weird that All Might and Endeavor are on the same team during Villain Hunt but we completely skipped All Might's thoughts and feelings on Endeavor abusing his family and having children to surpass him.
@@joturd23 Because All-Might is a human being and should have individual opinions about people he knows? We see basically nothing change when Endeavor's behavior got revealed except for people practically forgiving him. No disappointment, no distrust, no disgust, nothing. That's not normal. And we can't just assume All-Might has better things to worry about. We didn't even get his thoughts.
MHA just don't hit like it used to. All these super 'BIG' events have been happening for the last couple of arcs, but I consistently finish each chapter feeling mostly underwhelmed. There's been no room for storylines to breath, and a lack of long term consequences that personally resonate with the characters makes everything feel kinda hollow. Still waiting for that moment where everything magically clicks for me again, but like this video says, it might be a case of too little too late.
Same here man, I haven’t felt truly connected to the story for atleast a good two years, it just hasn’t been consistent enough to get back to where it used to be, even the current events haven’t moved me even though it’s the final arc
@Mathew Chacko honestly, it's been even longer for me. The last time I truly enjoyed MHA was the Overhaul arc, which wrapped up in the manga in early 2018. That's five years, at this point. The main two arcs after that point that everyone hypes up are My Villain Academia and Paranormal Liberation War. This video airs out the flaws of the latter, and the former fails to fix what has always been one of MHA's biggest problems for me - the villains are too half-baked.
Honestly, the last time I felt "satisfied" with mha was probably the school festival arc. It was a nice resolution after the whole Overhaul arc, like, the kids went through some really rough stuff and now they get to breathe and be kids. Eri is now in the process of healing from all the bad things that happened, and we're setting up that she could eventually, maybe, restore Mirio's quirk. I liked that arc because it gave the story a moment to breathe, it gave the students something to do that was low stakes as a cap to the previous storyline, it developed their relationships. And then everything became big thing after big thing and it felt like the story somewhat lost its way? I don't really know how to explain it, but it seriously lost me after that. At this point I only follow it to see how it ends
You know, I didn’t even realize that the kids had not mentioned anything about Midnight’s death and how it affected them after the war. I also felt like how Deku’s character arc when he was going off on his own was rushed. I (personally) would’ve liked it if we got to see his mental struggle a bit more and give it time to breathe and seem more dangerous and unhealthy, then have his friends come in and save him.
But they did(sorta). One was when izuku was resting before he started his vigilante journey or somepoint when he came back, then again in this current arc where the pink chick, kirishima and some others encountered the villain that killed Midnight
@@dredvax But did they go in depth about how the kids feel and how each individual kid was impacted by it? No they didn't. Unless a future chapter shows how Midnight's death impacted Mina and the others, that portion of the chapter is not enough for me.
One big problem is that this show pushes the other classmates into background characters at first it seems like all the characters will get focus and we learn more about them NOPE there just nothing while we focus on the Shonen trio just like every other Shonen.
The consiquences of the adult characters being undermined like Mirko losing limbs, Best Jeanist coming back suddenly, Hawks having his back incinerated and Aizawa being seriously injured also damaged the themes of the story. If the adult characters were all out of comission (save Endeavor since he still has a lot of story left to tell), it would force class 1-A to step up and be the next generation. But the adult characters are still leading the fight and class 1-A isn't nearly as central as they should be. Monoma having to use Erasure is excellent, but with Aizawa there it's more like Monoma is a living prosthetic for Aizawa in the way the scene is framed. Hawks could have fully passed the torch onto Tokoyami, but Hawks is still on the front lines. Ojiro would be a decent successor to Mirko in terms of fighting style and yet Mirko just has prosthetics instead, and what could have been a good arc for Ojiro never happened because the story just kept moving along at that breakneck pace. And having Mirko, have to slow down would give her lots of opportunities to develop since she can't just brute force her way through life on her own terms anymore. Living vicariously through Ojiro would have been an interesting manifestation of her no longer being able to do everything she used to. Class 1-A played support to the Pro Heroes in the war arc, and in this final act, the heroes should be supporting class 1-A instead, and yet it somehow still feels like our characters in a coming of age story are just the apprentices. Bakugo and Deku feel like the only members of 1-A who matter anymore, with a few of them like Tokoyami and Jiro getting compensated with moments. The consiquences of the war arc were all undone but it undid the story's potential even more
You don't deserve the story then, you're saying lots of things that I don't even bothered reading your comment. Again, if you can't enjoy something, leave it.
@@clintguia7984 can't people give constructive criticism to a manga anymore? pointing out writing flaws in something doesn't mean the person criticizing is any less of a fan
Holyshit you're so right, seeing the pro heros mentor class 1a would've been great, it would add character, also since they were lacking Heroes at the end of the war ark they'll need to use kids. Also class 1a literally participated in the war. Why aren't they patrolling the streets or something??!
Very well said. By far the worst aspect of the Final Act of MHA, at least in my opinion, is how it retroactively diminishes the impact of not only this arc, but arguably a good portion of the story as a whole, both narratively and thematically. I was willing to forgive the cluttered mess that was the end of the last fight in this arc if it led to some genuinely good stuff (and don't get me wrong, the hospital stuff is hands-down some of Horikoshi's best writing with 305 being my personal favorite chapter in the whole series), but so, so much of what we have gotten since has felt lackluster at best and like a massive slap in the face at worst. During this arc, it felt like MHA had so much potential to soar to even greater heights, but now all I'm hoping is that by the end it can crawl its way back to the levels of excitement I felt in the middle of PLW.
When I was a kid I use to write wattpad (sorry). I'd normally think about a powerful scene and build the story around that so that I could eventually write out that scene. That's what I think MHA is doing, making strange decisions and fucking up the pacing so they can shoehorn in an emotional scene
yknow what would be cool? midoriya losing an arm for pushing too hard that they had to amputate it. But then finds a way to alleviate that by using his dark whip quirk as his replacement.
If I'm being honest ever since this arc finished it went from my favorite to my 4th to now near the bottom I just don't get the 'hype' around the arc while Dabi's dance is fantastic it doesn't save the arc from all the other choices made which is sad as I was reading MHA and BC every week and after the UA traitor reveal I dropped MHA and I think ill just wait till the series is over to read the final arc
And hes scared his own fan base is too immature to handle an actual important character death aside from side characters no ones seen for more than 5 panels
Bro most of these complaints I was already making during the weekly release. I remember being so disappointed by how easily and quickly Shigaraki's new army fell. Te lack of utilization of the Liberation Front members. The removal of ReDestro and the High Ends that were so well built up. Shigaraki never gets to put the leadership skills he's learned to good use. He wakes up, and while in the moment his mass destruction is fucking awesome... I couldn't help but hope the arc would take a quick beat. Give Shiggy just a sec to co-ordinate an actual plan or counter attack with his team. Hell, even if that was too much to ask for, it felt so cheap how through most of his fight with Deku- he's just nerfed completely. Just taking punches. Then passing out. Then being taken over by a much lamer villain. Deku and Shiggy finally meet. It's their first meeting since the Stain arc. These fated rivals finally clash. And Deku just kicks and screams. Never really says anything interesting until literally the end. When he decides that villains may need saving. Whcih is.. an obvious route to take. But it never felt like the arc was building up to that Deku never seems all that shaken by Shiggy and Dabi's villainous monologues about the flaws of the society he used to blindly believe in. I'd say the only good parts of the arc that still hold up when I read them are the Hawks and Dabi moments. Yeah, they are kinda weakened by the shitty follow through in later arcs, but they at least feel like Hori making the absolute MOST of the pieces he's put in place. At least for the moment.
I agree with your point that the war arc(and all future arcs leading up to the final war arc) have just completely glossed over the issues regarding the reaction of the kids and the villains to the war. Class 1-A, and ALL of UA as a whole just witnessed the deaths of thousands of heroes, including their teachers/mentors, civilians and learn some dark truths about hero society. These children have been through severe trauma and suffering that will NEVER be undone and the story just brushes past it like it's a normal instance to occur to a bunch of high schoolers. The manga does nothing to address the emotional weight of the war arc and how it impacted to kids overall. While it can be argued that the manga does show how it affected the kid by showing them be more mature and working in unison to finally put an end to All For One's reign, it only implies that they were affected. Sure we see them cry and be furious, but it doesn't go any deeper than that. It doesn't show how the kid have been changed internally in terms of thoughts and emotions. Even if they show towards the end, it'll make the tone of the manga come off as emotionally drained instead of satisfying. As for the villains, the lack of reaction to Twice'd death completely undermines their whole vibe of found family. These villains developed bonds and friendships with each other and fought side by side with one another and yet when one of their own dies, it's just completely ignored by virtually everyone. To me, This whole war arc has only shown that the battles that the heroes' and villains endured have succeeded and emotionally hardening everyone, making them seem cold and distant from the war as a way to cope. And I'm not sure if that's the interpretation of this situation to that Horikoshi's going for.
I feel like the only one we should've seen react to Twice other than Toga was Shigaraki at the least. Toga's reaction was exactly what it needed to be, but AFO taking over shiggy and denying us his perspective on the losses of twice and compress is one of his biggest fumbles
@@TheCreed1217 I agree. Shigaraki was the one of the closest people to Twice after Toga. But since All for One consumed Tomura and he supposedly "no longer exists", now we may never know how he truly feels about Twice's death. Just because he's a villain does not mean he doesn't have any feelings or emotions toward losing the ones he cares about. By doing this whole plot of Shigaraki losing himself to All for One, you turn him into a 2-dimensional villain who only cares about watching the whole world burn without having any depths or valid reasons behind it.
I feel like this show has way WAY too many characters included. To the point that characters end up lacking proper follow through of a number of plots. I never watched the show, nor read the manga, but I’ve been fascinated by the story and the cast overall. But from an outside perspective, it always felt like there was a lot going on, and that would soon bite the show and books in the ass. I really hope I’m wrong about that though.
Honestly the time skips should of never existed and instead the characters are explored and stuff Example, after usj attack izuku goes out to get some stuff for his mom and runs into Mina being discrimination “being blamed for usj” and izuku stands up for her and then they bond threw out the day, Class 1-b should of went to usj at one point to introduce them much better
I love when manga and anime take time to show the mc’s react and take in what just happened to them. Chainsaw Man comes to mind. Characters get traumatized, or harbor on the things they do
My biggest issues with *"War Arcs"* in Mangas and even comics anyway is that they usually span a couple of days and maybe a week or two in story. Granted that doesn't necessarily make it not a war, it just seems hollow. I would like a comic/manga that shows a war that spans years...and maybe there is one that does that, wait technically Code Geass is a couple of years I think so I debunked myself....but MHA and Naruto last hours to days respectively.
@@larryjake7783 It is about the unification of China, the majority of the arcs are wars that really happened, it is the best for me when it comes to this, all strategies and so on, it also has great political arcs, where they have to make alliances, betrayals, and having resources to invest in the war
I think the issue stems from something that we may not have the whole story on. After the war, it felt like Horikoshi began to rush the story to a conclusion. I can see a few different reasons for this. I'm not gonna speculate on a possible health condition. But I think it's very possible that Jump gave Horikoshi The Tite Kubo treatment. Basically, forcing him to rush the story. The parrallels between him and Kubo rn are kinda scaring me.
now that the manga's finished, this vid along with many others you did really encapsulates why the entire third arc's pacing was dogshit, just a non-stop barrage of fights with no setup or interesting themes, and a ton of shit that just "looks cool", how the kinda-mighty fell. i cant wait for your retrospective on this
Love yourself first and most Believe in yourself Quitters never win and winners never quit Don't give up and never give in Ignore those who try to discourage you Hang on to your dreams Take control of own destiny Take care of yourself Keep moving forward Stand up for yourself Stand tall and be brave Stay strong Act of kindness people
I always end up skipping the students sections except for a select few that I like, the VILLAINS are the driving force of the series and the only reason I still read it, you can tell that since Bakugou and Endeavor especially have gotten more popular, Horikoshi focuses less on the plot and more on shoving those two whenever possible no matter how irrelevant they are especially Bakugou
I have to agree with almost all of this. There were 3 things that were seriously bothering me watching this arc that you pretty much covered. 3. Everyone glancing over Endeavor's abuse. Not even the kids, or all might react to it. Not a single person said "Child abuse! He should be in prison!" In the very least, Dabi's dance is one of the best moments ever. 2. Shigaraki being taken over. This absolutely drove me nuts, and they completely ruined the main villain for it. When watching Season 6, I thought this was DEFINETELY the worst part of the show. I enjoyed when Shigaraki destroyed the manifestation of All for One... Only for that to be undone. However, in retrospect, this was just the second most annoying thing to happen in this show. 1. The most annoying thing in this show... Is pretty much the lack of care for Deku's quirk. This is probably the most important reveal in the entire anime. Dabi being Endeavor's son is definetely a contender, however that one is both a shock to the characters AND the audience, which makes it extremely effective. This one is different: it's a secret that we already know about, but the characters don't (save for a few). The question here is, how do they react when they find out? The result is quite disappointing. Not enough questions are being asked about it. How does Endeavor feel about being second place to a literal kid? How do the other pros feel about having to rely on him, a KID?!? How does Class 1A feel about this? This video is exactly right; they all just accept it together, instead of questioning the whole thing, and forming their own doubts. I'm surprised Iida and Uraraka weren't hurt by this, as they were close with Deku. This all goes double for Todoroki; he should be swelling with emotions over this. He's finding out that one of his best friends has the quirk of the previous number 1 hero, and never told him about it. Todoroki would understand Deku's pain the most, since he is the son of the current number 1 hero, a guy who has litterally abused him trying to make him perfect. Just imagine the pain he would have, seeing All Might have a great relationship with his successor, while Todoroki is having an awful one with his dad, especially with the Dabi reveal. I honestly think Todoroki should be questioning his friendship with Deku. So, pretty much no one has a strong opinion on Deku having One for All, which is quite disappointing. However, let's look at All Might, as he has done something arguably as bad as Endeavor. All Might: "You abused your children to force them to become heroes?" Endeavor: "Aren't you doing the same to Midoriya?" Now yes, All Might isn't litterally abusing Deku or forcing him to do anything, and he is constantly trying to make sure he's okay. All Might is a great mentor. However, that doesn't matter in the eyes of the public. Here's what the public sees: He gave his quick to a 15 year old kid. He entrusted the strongest power in the entire world... to a boy who can't handle it, a boy who snaps his arms every time he tries to use it. He basically threw another kid onto the battlefield who didn't need to be there. All Might was never questioned for this decision? Now yeah, the show does address this, with the Pros deciding not to tell the public about One for All, as that would put a bigger target on Deku and All Might. However, if All for One really views All Might as "pathetic," (which he litterally calls him that), then why doesn't he try to destroy his legacy? All he has to do is say, "By the way, want to know why All Might isn't protecting you right now? It's because he gave his powers to a 15 year old kid." Boom, All Might is now ruined, and framed as a groomer. Now in the public's eyes, he's no different than Endeavor, and the hero society is FOREVER ruined. Even Hero Killer Stain would despise him! (Though I will honestly admit, I'm glad All for One did not do this, as ruining All Might would seriously destroy the show). This is addressed atleast, as the Pros speculate that All for One isn't going public about Deku, because he doesn't want the heroes to hide Deku in an unreachable place. This... Is a logical conclusion. Still, I wish more thought was put into the story and explanations. I love this arc, but too much happened at once, and it needed more fleshing out. Just my 2 cents.
I truly hate the AFO taking over Shigi’s body thing. It halted his character progression. MHA as a whole is a series that really needed a time skip. Show the aftermath of the war (better) on both sides, deku goes on the run, then BOOM, timeskip, 3 years later “dark deku” arc starts At least that’s my take
I know the main issue here. Its because Horikoshi no longer has passion with MHA anymore. He is skimming through chapters by chapters, pulling shit out of his ass because honestly he just wants to end his series already. The war arc was basically his limit for giving passion to his work because now, he's fast forwarding everything with out having any real proper growth. Its shitty reasoning but thats the reason
My least favorite part about the arc was Bakugo's hero name. The whole point of his previous crappy hero names was to show how off base he was on what a hero is. Those cringey, try-hard names show he is a violent, egoistical asshole who just wants to beat people up to prove what a big boy he is. A REAL hero name should inspire hope and safety in civilians, allude to your quirk to discourage villains, or be at least be marketable, all other hero names aim for these. Bakugo seeing the only man he wants to improve himself for return from the dead to heat his hero name should be a moment of growth where Bakugo can take the lessons hes learned up till now and accept what it means to be a hero. Instead, he doubles down on the cringey, try-hard, impossible to remember jumble of middle school nonsense he started the series as, only this time everyone playcates him! It just goes to show, Bakugo will never ACTUALLY change, no matter how much character development he goes through, because I guess his abrasive personality is more marketable to the pansyies in charge. Vegetta all over agian.
I can say that mha first enemy is monologues and slow motions and flashbacks in the fight scenes . It feels cheap . And make us forgot what is happening. + Why they always talk about the sane thing twice at the same episode???
Honestly I'm not a fan of the whole shigaraki being fused with all for one idea or how all for on keeps coming back I think it would of been better if shigaraki broke away from his master and been his own villain just like how Deku is trying to be his own hero isntead of being a copy of allmight But now it feels like shigaraki is just being taken over and being controlled by all for one isntead
You have no idea how quickly the whole Shigaraki being possessed by all for one and how they botched Mirio and eri's storyline completely killed my interest in the war arc. Honestly in my opinion I think this war arc is about as bad as the naruto one for different reasons.
Bro, let’s be honest. All for One taking shigaraki did suck, but it was awesome at the same time. If he represents true villainy and evil, then taking the spotlight from his protege and making the audience hate him more, is peak villainy and vileness
The Deku damage one literally doesn’t make sense in my opinion. Do you know what one for all is? Stockpiled energy that not only increases the strength speed and agility of the user, but also the durability. Meaning that his ability to take damage is on par with his ability to dish out attacks. For example for a 100% deku to be hurt he would have to be hit with an attack that scales to his power. This includes everything whether it be burns from fire or just brute force. He isn’t like shoto and Bakugo in the sense that his body has a normal pain and durability threshold. It’s like superman tanking bullets. That’s part of one for all. Now at the beginning when he could only use 5% and he would use 100% he was receiving damage of roughly 95% more than what his body could handle. Now in order to rise to the 45% that he possessed at the time that means his body had to adapt and become stronger. It also means that as opposed to receiving damage of 95% more than he can handle, he received damage of 55% more than he can handle. This is a severe drop off and explains why the damage to his body doesn’t scale the same. It isn’t an asspull, it’s logical.
See i think all for one was able to take over Shigarki's body since Shigarki was damaged pretty hard in the fight between Shigarki and deku as well as Shigarki being burnt into a crisp by endeavor
I think the quick pace of the series makes it suffer later on. It was acceptable earlier with lower scale arcs but we get huge events now with no time to absorb the consequences of the events. I still love MHA and I think the War Arc individually was awesome but the final arc is definitely lacking and makes it feel like it had little impact
7:42 Nobody in the series has “bodied” Endeavor. I remember this arc well. I do remember Enji chasing Shigaraki for kilometers as he headed to the city from the Mountain. Had that chapped lip b*tch running
The cast in JJK is much smaller yet it managed to show us that civillian no.552 is absolutely obliterated in the Shibuya arc and it managed to also show us how much destruction there is. Were fully aware about the lives at stake even outside the Jujutsu cast and were shown with such a good minimalistic non intrusive approach, because no one really cares about literal background characters and yet they are really important when it comes to a "War" arc. How many times do i have to see Civilians in MHA start their 15th Riot, how many times do we need them to be shoved into our faces with a "OMG these are not my heroes !" scenes.. okay we get it, morally grey, unrest, cool.. Show don't tell.. MHA has the worst exposition dump problem i've ever seen, it's one thing to narrate fights, it's an other to be told and shown the fucking blood type of every character at the start of each episode, every appearance.. Has to rotate thru all the heroes, make a freeze frame, pull a comic mozaik filter over it, roll out the details of the hero down to their hobbies whilst explaining how their quirk works for the hundredth time, repeat until there is no character left, repeat until there is no episode is left, u bet your ass it added up over 113 episodes. I feel like the only people that give a crap about MHA characters are hardcore fans, like not fun fans but like.. sad fans.. the kind you look at and you experience second hand Suicidal ideation. Bakugo, Midoriya, Shoto.. Named all the characters 90% of people that actively consume the series really care about. Like you'd think someone like Ochako is really important, i can't remember a single scene about Ochako, not since the tournament arc, what even happened with her since ? Did she just exists and idolize Deku ? Das all ? She's a one Dimensional character. Yet we are constantly led to believe she's a core member of the cast. 113 Episodes people.. That's 2 Days of run time.. The toddler sized grapefruit head literal sexual predator, the literal comic relief character has more screen time, has more to say then Ochako.. 2016 was the year S1 aired, 8 years since, those 16y old kids grown up to be 24 but the show didn't grow in maturity, the complexities that it has are only temporary, even if Ochako had a Character development moment u bet it's been long forgotten exactly because the change was not Fundamental, it was not consistent, it was just for those few pages, just for that one scene in that one episode. And that's just Ochako, i don't even know let alone care who the Frog girl is, i watched all of the aired episodes and i don't know her name.. Acid girl ? Who gives a flying fuck. The mountain face guy with the weird voice ? The shinny bellybutton guy ? The others at least had something going here and there but i wouldn't really call that a achievement, not gonna be led to believe these guys are Class "A" let alone Class A in terms of Character.. will watch MHA just for the sake of seeing the resolution to it but this is just a shit show at this point.
Honestly. Him sacrificing himself. After all he’s done. Him going out as a true hero would have been an amazing send off. Before. Being a hero cause he wanted to beat up others and be the strongest. Then becoming a true hero, and fighting for what’s right and in the end. Giving his life to do so. Would have been awesome to see.
They can't do that sadly lmao. Why? The reasons being: 1. Bakugou's fangirls would mad and protesting to the point they will send death threat to Horikoshi 2. Bakugo is Horikoshi's favorite character, that's why he don't want Bakugo to die and why everyone in MHA brushing off Bakugo bullying Midoriya
The biggest thing I feel about mha war Arc is that in trying to not let mha go on forever like one piece etc. He's trying to rush to the finish that he dropped everything that he built up so now I almost felt like I wasted my time with mha
I just finished the war arc (I think) in the anime and it felt like it should have been peak but it felt so mid and anti climactic. Did not feel like an actual war with stakes or emotions
Here a year later. I still think the newest/last war arc is ass and I just want this series to end as much as Horikoshi does. I feel like MHA is holding him back and that he just really wants to write that horror manga.
The thing that I hated about this war arc is the fact that the against shigaraki was so boring and long I hated that new characters come and most get injured and get back temporary it felt weird but I like the momo leader arc and midnight sacrifice
For me, War arc went like this: heroes and villians saw each other, fought for a little bit, then retreated. It had almost 0 consequences. I'm waiting for JJK S2 to show how it's done.
The Hawks wings one will always get me. It was OBVIOUSLY pointing to heavy consequences for Hawks' actions but then... his feathers just grow back a little slower. Dark Shadows comment does nothing but mislead the audience into thinking there will be consequences.
Wasnt it stated from Hawks that "were far from our prime" to afo, yes he Got his wings back but there not at all of what there used to be, there not strong as there used to be but that doesnt mean hes going to stop fighting since it wasnt meant to stop him fighting but again that Means he never going to be as he was before which i think was a good consequence But thats My opinion you can disagree if you want since god knows alot of People will
@@AgentNero9 not a big consequence in the slightest, considering he’s still able to live and breathe freely, whilst still being able to fight at a reasonably high level albeit not at his peak, that’s comparable to losing a bit of stamina as one gets older, its not a serious consequence to face when coming out of a war where death and life altering injuries are prevalent in other series and in real life.
@@Chackz0 yeah it never meant to stop him from fighting, Hell his wings probebly arent in a good spot right now due to the fact he Got one shoted by afo,he was able to hurt afos mask due to the fact because of timing it on the right time and the fact because likes to shit talk then anything, even then he had help to break afos mask, even then afo was a able to repair his mask but again endeavor had to help with Hawks wings which are probebly burnt by his fire His wings look like there glewed together His wings were healed because it was never meant to stop him from fighting but even then he still had trouble fighting He Will never be as strong,fast and durable But again thats in My opinion i know damn well that most People here wouldnt agree
@@asimplewizard Yes, his feathers will grow back if they are burned, here's the thing though, it wasn't just his feathers that Dabi was burning, it was his WHOLE BACK, directly where they GROW FROM, that had been roasted so badly that Dark Shadow exclaimed "His back... it's gone!". If you know anything about what happens to burnt skin tissue or basic storytelling then you'd realise that it's complete bullshit that his wings grew back, especially when Horikoshi emphasized the injury to such a degree that it implied permanent damage. Instead, the only result is that his feathers grow back a little slower, and oh wait! He gets magic prosthetic feathers to help him out! Which makes absolutely no fucking sense because his feathers are telekinetic that he controls with his mind. In any case, he's still fast enough to keep AFO on the back foot, and even momentarily keep up with Prime AFO trying to escape! It's almost like his injury and the risk he took killing Twice never mattered. Talk about consequences, huh. 🫤
@@asimplewizard not only did his back get burnt but it was by flames hotter then the number 1 hero's (endeavor) not only that but at POINT BLANK RANGE idk how his wings could have possibly grown back
I honestly can't believe Gran Torino is still alive. It would've definitely made more sense to kill him off during the war or even at the hospital. Not only that but it would make Deku wearing his cape even more significant. The fact that even after so many chapters he's still nowhere to be seen but somehow alive, makes me question if killing him was the intention but Hori backed down or if he still (somehow) has a purpose in the story
@@AgentNero9 yes because there’s little to no stakes in this story, gran torino isn’t essential to the plot and killing him in the war arc would have added more purpose/emotional depth behind the war arc (especially on dekus part) other than that we saw midnight dying (who hardly ever got screentime) and fodder heroes added alongside a few lost limbs to try make up for it
@@Chackz0 again is it THAT bad , Hell we have big stakes in the current war Arc so i dont really see it Being needed for stakes while we already have stakes in the story, Hell even before the final war there were stakes So i dont really ser it as big of a problem But again thats in My opinion
@@AgentNero9 when it’s meant to be a “war” arc and is used to signify the drastic change of the world then yeah it does matter, otherwise its meaningless, the heroes came out of it fine with minor injuries and that was it, even now the stakes are only there because its the final arc meaning he can kill off anyone now, it just makes the previous war arc consequences seem meaningless/futile
@@Chackz0 i understand that but i dont really think its a big problem, it doesnt affect the story in a bad or positive way when we already have stakes in the current war Arc and before it, mha isnt perfect and i definitely see the flaws in the past war Arc and current arcs but i do want to appriciate the good stuff we good from these arcs(well in My opinion) But i do find it confusing that hori was able to kill off bakugo but not grand Torino? But still i dont really see a problem since it doesnt affect the story and we still Got good amount of stakes but again thats in My opinion
Literally one of the most op quirks in this anime and she gets taken out of commission in 1 chapter. And after all the hype too. It was pretty disappointing.
@@JLacay And even that wasn't really relevant. The fact that AFO has an unknown amount of quirks with unkown limits and effects means that we don't really feel that he actually lost any power, like, the things Tomura/AFO uses the most in battle are his super strength, decay and regeneration, and he still has all of those. For all we know the quirks that were destroyed probably weren't important to AFO's plan.
Still crazy to me how we saw All Might watching the broadcast, and we never see his reaction to Endeavor's abuse. Stuff like this is why PLW loses value over time.
The sheer number of prosthetics which can keep up with the biological powerhouse Quirks makes me feel like the point of Izuku ever getting a Quirk in the first place was pointless. If Aizawa and Midnight, normal human adults if not for their niche Quirks, can compete with some of the stronger villains in the series just with hero tools, why did anyone ever believe that Midoriya COULDN'T have been a hero without a Quirk?
Aizawa and Midnight CAN'T compete with the stronger villains. Aizawa got the shit beat out of him by the USJ Nomu, got stabbed by Toga once, and then lost one of his eyes to Shigaraki. And how can you say that Midnight can keep up with the stronger villains when she couldn't even survive in the 1st war arc against *regular* villains?
@John Lambert Mr. Compress has a mask, Toga also wears a mask sometimes. And Toga *did* stab Aizawa in Season 4, go back and watch that episode. After she stabs Rock Lock, Deku and Aizawa show up, then she out maneuvers Aizawa and stabs him.
what annoys me the most is that the show started differently. Everything seemed to matter, every decision had lasting results. Be it Ida's injured hand and often desperation to overcome his failures as a hero when it mattered, Deku's injuries, Momo's insecurity for failing during the school festival, Bakugo's descent into cornering himself until he breaks, Shoto's opening up and trying to figure his position out, but not without steps back and forth. For most characters that had any significant screen time, there were elements that were lasting, that were defining, that went on to linger even when the plot didn't focus on it anymore. And all of that is gone now, and that is what frustrates me the most. It feels like giving up on the story, and trying to wrap it up, not making an actual good story anymore.
I feel like the focus diverted to much to the whole class who are all a bunch of weaklings that do nothing but fight fodder. I know it sounds harsh but before, because everyone were fairly close strenght wise, it felt more like they mattered to the story as a whole, now Deku is stronger than most profesionals heros, and characters like Mineta do nothing but sit around while the world is ending in front of them
14:50 also post War arc Deku’s power scaling is a complete mess now, we spend hundreds of chapters keeping up with his progress up to him using 20%+ Air Force and Black whip, then for the war arc we jump to 45% (which isn’t a big deal for me) and Float, ok it’s a bit much but we still kinda know his limits, then on act III he gets new prostetics who just vaguely help his arms, danger sense, smoke, Fa Jin and supposedly All Might level strength in a single arc, in the current arc I have no idea how strong Deku is, how far can he go with his quirk, the limits of his support gear, NOTHING How am I supposed to be invested in a fight between him and shigaraki if I don’t know the limits of either of them???
I mean we haven't been able to quantify shigaraki's upper limits either so why cant you be invested. Shigaraki's benchmark is at least prime all might level if not higher, as has been stated in the last war and reiterated in the current chapter. I dont think you need it explained to you how All Might was the strongest character in the verse fucked up, so just imagine he's even stronger in his prime. Deku's strength would have to rival Prime AMs if not surpass it to stand a chance and his vast array of quirks can jump him to a false 100% level. Meaning he can match AM at least, but now that shigaraki's body is reaching the singularity and his body is at 100%, there's no telling what he can do with quirks in the mix. So tldr physically theyre probably on par, abilities unsure because most of dekus skills are only useful as support, fajins power buff and we still don't know what the 2nds quirk can do. You should just go in expecting an AFO vs AM like fight except x10 in terms of power(s)
@@deuce5546 New Powers that make sense for what he's fighting against. Cant really beat the main villain when his base abilities match Deku's in strength and his best power is you literally cant touch me or you fucking die! If Deku didn't get those buffs he wouldn't stand a chance
@@TheCreed1217 That isn't really an excuse nor justifies it, if you want your MC to be able to realistically fight your villain despite being only a student: A. don't make the villain so OP B. just tell us from the beginning he inherited several quirks, don't make it a secret, otherwise it feels like a waste of time C. Don't make the protagonist fight your villain, imagine if in HxH Gon got a Nen power up that made him strong enough to defeat Meruem just because the story needs the main hero to defeat the villain. Anything is better than giving Deku a new power each arc with the justification that it's part of the powers he inherited.
@@deuce5546 A. No reason why the villain shouldn't be OP when the main villain of the story is an All Might level character passing on all of his power onto his progeny the same way All Might does to Deku in making him a stupidly over powered protagonist. B. That'd be stupid and defeat the point of the mystery. Just because you didn't like it doesn't make it bad, when in context NONE of them would have any way in knowing this information. C. This is a stupid ass comparison when that very thing was a possibility as it did happen and the only reason Gon didnt kill Mereum is because he's a selfish brat throwing a tantrum over his dead friend, realistically prioritizing his issues over everyone else's makes sense within the context of HxHs story which is why that part is very well written. Lastly Deku got new powers in 3 arcs: 1Avs1B which revealed the mystery of OFA much like other quirks evolving to an unstable degree, MVA where he awakened float and to a degree danger sense, and the start of the final arc literally every other power had already been awakened. Its not as egregious as you make it out to be and all it shows is your personal bias against it. All your reasons just scream, dont let the author write what he wants. Don't like it? Cool but dont say the context of it all doesn't justify the escalation when it literally DOES
Actually, Midnight was never Momo's mentor. She just gave her praise a couple of times throughout the story. That's it. There really wasn't that great of a connection between the two. Which is why this didn't create any new narrative for Momo's character to take part in. Instead, it looks like Horikoshi is setting up Mina Ashido as the one who is going to fight Midnight's killer.
Thank you for pointing out that whole "oh but that was the whole point so that makes this terrible plot development okay :D" fallacy. Just because you intended to shit on my plate the whole time does not mean I should tolerate you shitting on my plate. AFO taking over Shigaraki is imo the worst thing to happen to the story(tied with Horikoshi's desire to end the story in 1 year). I dont care if he planned to do that from the beginning, having your best antagonist and one of your very best characters be taken over by an objectively worse one and taking all his agency away in climactic moments that would have been incredibly narratively satisfying to see him go through while completely invalidating all of his growth is just a terrible thing to sit through.
1. Shigaraki or at least tenko is likely to come back to conciousness for dekus final battle 2. With how recent chapters are going and the editor switch , mha is likely going to last another year after. Yes the last id say like 6 chapters of the war arc were meh but the rest of the war arc was astounding.
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 The last chapter state in the most explicit way how "Shigaraki" doesn't exist anymore, being absorbed by AFO he stop existing in the end of the first war, and now "Tenko" is treated as a different entity inside the mind of ShigaAFO At this point no matter how many copium you inhale, but "Shigaraki" no longer exist and he won't come back. Is just a easy way to establish Deku as his savior in the end, which is gonna happen soon new editor or not
@@quiver5756 i still think tenko or whoever he is will die. If after all this time tenko is still within shiggafo then itd possible for shigaraki to seperate himself from afo by hsving some vestige clash with afo
@@quiver5756 Tenko is the real Shigaraki. You can say he is a different entity but really he is a part of Shigaraki that hasn't been influenced or taken over in anyway.
Ever since the war arc, I felt that the story was rushing through plot lines. A real shame too since; as we've seen before, a rushed ending can ruin a series. I even thought to myself that Gran Torino should've died during the fight against Shigaraki, as it would've been a perfect send off for his character. Not to mention, more heroes that we were familiar with should've been killed off as well, further emphasizing the need for the next generation of student heroes to take their teachers places. Another issue I had was that Lemillion definitely came out of nowhere during the war. I understand Horikoshi wanted to wrap up his plot line and not leave people guessing but still "time and a place". I also felt that the Tartarus Escapees Arc should've lasted somewhat longer, with Midoriya falling deeper and darker. Becoming a straight vigilante, like Batman or Stain even. I even had this idea where Midoriya would follow some questionable advice from one of the Vestiges and go so far as to threaten to drop a criminal off the side of a building unless he talks. But the last issue I had was the fact that Endeavor and Hawks weren't berated by the public enough throughout their paths to redemption. I really expected Horikoshi would've had a majority of sidekicks at Endeavor's agency resign but only a handful of them (including Burnin) actually stayed. It also would've been interesting if someone had vandalized Hawk's agency and spray painted "MURDERER" on the wall, and he's left questioning whether or not he made the right call in killing Twice.
That's a cool idea of someone vandalized hawks agency (i didn't think of that). Also wouldn't be cool if we saw people who are against hero society (not the villians but people who are too afraid to speak up or are sillent but know well that the hero society is fuck up). Or how about government who manipulates hawks or try to cover every situation because politics. That's just my silly ideas that I came up with ☺️
I also got really upset about how Shigaraki has not been himself for over a hundred chapters, and how Shigaraki didn't react to Twice's death. But another thing that upset me is that no one has even mention Mr. Compress, it's been almost a hundred chapters and we don't even know if he's even alive or not.
Am probably gonna agree with 90% of the criticisms and yet on its own it’s still one of my favorite arcs of the show, sucks the aftermath was so poorly handled though
If the manga didn't immediately rush to the finale after PLW, then I bet all of these problems would have been avoided. These characters needed more on screen time for the events to really sink in, but that time wasn't given to us.
One of the greatest examples of this which isn't in the war arc was Lady Nagant, she was seemingly poised to return, and I genuinely doubt she will ever return again. MHA could have easily killed off Lady Nagant and it would make a much more impactful effect on the story, similar to Gran Torino.
Still pisses me off that they fucked over Shigeraki for All for One. Now don"t get me wrong I like All for One as a villain however he was not better than Shigeraki. Then making Deku Tenkos savior makes no sense. It was just there for plot
Ever since the PLW started reaching it’s ending, Every storyline introduced to us just felt rushed and had bad pacing, and in my opinion, they series being rushed crazily botched plot lines, leading the end of the plot lines to be underwhelming and ineffective, a lot of people blame the editor who is known for the cancellation and rushing of other series, but I believe that it is everyone’s responsibility, mainly the staff, The editor had a big role to play but I still feel like Horikoshi contributed to the downfall of the series, but people have to agree that the recent chapters, chptr.357-361 have definitely upgraded in it’s pacing, ever since horikoshi got a new editor, things started to look up, it’s very late for this change and would’ve been better is this editor was switched in the villain hunt arc but I have faith that the ending can be good, Great vid asa, bye 👋.
10:00 - 10:50 This is why I'm seriously hoping for one last school briefs novel to explore this. I know it might sound a bit depressing that the only way we can hope to get these moments is through side content and though most of the previous school briefs have a more hopeful tone, I NEED to see these reactions and interactions the characters had after the war (If possible maybe even more Deku introspection while he was alone and once he got back) . I'm honestly praying it is somehow possible. I know the "too little too late" thing is true, but at this point I'll take it if it means I get to see some of these moments, even if its in novel form.
On the scale of survivability, I feel like Midnight really should've been the one to come out alive all things considered, whereas the senior hero should've been more likely to die from a heart attack in the heat of the moment (least of all that damn injury).
@Kevin Lucero I can understand that sentiment. Though, for me personally, from a narrative perspective. The mentor characters should kinda just take less of an active role by now (I mean seriously, why is the retired hero coming back OUT of retirement? It'd be one thing if he came back just for the raid but he's been back even before then so like...why???)
@John Lambert Well this is the same world where Bakugou can survive some insane shit despite his power being to make explosions. I'm fairly certain everyone has some basic super human durability by our standards.
The idea of "the older generation refusing to let go of their hold on the newer generation" could work if they kept going with Shigaraki achieving independence and stepping away from AFO's shadow as the true antagonist of the series, showing that he has surpassed Deku as a character bound to the older generation, while Deku is saddled with the legacy of OFA and continues trying to force himself to become the next Symbol of Peace despite the strain it puts on him physically and mentally because he can't let go of the fact that he has inherited All Might's power and karmic burden as the one Hero meant to lead others into the future. A future, while bright, that is still shackled to the past. It could work by having Shigaraki be the one moving forward and leaving his mentor's shadow behind him while Deku still struggles beneath All Might's. Tl;Dr AFO taking over Shigaraki is a bad narrative twist and ruins what could have been an interesting thematic concept the story could have worked on more.
Ngl I didn’t like it when AFO took over Shigaraki, It was like “Oh He went through all this development just to be taken over by the earlier villain” bruh
I definitely agree that Gran Torino should’ve died.and I definitely agree that we should’ve got to see how class 1a dealt with the whole war. I still loved the war arc but we should’ve definitely gotten like some post war arc instead of jumping right into the final act. A whole post war arc focusing on the aftermath and how it effected everyone
Horikoshi initially planned for Endeavor to die during the PLF war, and this idea would have worked well if Shoto was the central character in the Todoroki subplot. Shoto could have taken charge of dealing with Touya, the "final villain," and the rest of the family could support him. However, it seems Shoto is no longer the central character in this subplot. He's not allowed to have a final fight with Touya until Touya confronts Endeavor. This shift is noticeable from the start of the series, where Shoto was the central figure in his family drama. In the Pro Hero arc, Endeavor becomes a central figure in the pro-hero world. When Touya's identity is confirmed, either Endeavor or Shoto had to stop being the central figure. This change makes Endeavor the central figure in the fight, even though the subplot started as Shoto's story. The survival of Endeavor forces Shoto into a supporting role, altering the trajectory of the narrative.
I never realized this, its kind of wack how endeavor ends up becoming a more important/active character than Todoroki and even Bakugo. I never realized it till you put it like this but those two have basically become side characters that I'm excited to hear speak when compared to Endeavor and Hawks.
I just realized something, they only got the inexperienced first year plus the big three to go to war, but where are the other more experienced 2nd and 3rd year students?!?!!?!
that guy with the green vest and the girl with the dumbass retractable limbs quirk were 3rd years and all they did was fail to evacuate a group of civilians and get negative diffed by muscular
@@AsarathaHSYT I disagree. She's not a nobody imo. Pedophile well not really either. Was she sadistic and r-rated. Yes. Did she actively sexually harass any students like a predator. No
And they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you. Why bother?
Ahh yeah this happens alot on shounen manga. It's probably because of the shounen jump either rushing or wanting more climax every week from the creator. And the popularity of the characters for sure
spoilers to chapter 427: the plotline of Hawks killing Twice got even worse because now Hawks is the president of the Hero Public Safety Commission. So he was pretty much given a prize for killing him. So it's not even vanadlizing on Twice's grave. It's having a number 2 on it
Shigaraki forcing Redestro and his army to be loyal to him was very amazing because it even the playing field between the Villains and Heroes. Now the villains had the strength and numbers to go up against the hero society. But then immediately they get defeated and reduced back down to the size of a clubhouse. Like bro why even do that it just takes away the sense of danger and bleakness that was being set up. If everything is going alright for the heroes then any sense of danger and tension is also taken away because at the end of the day it will work itself out no problem.
shut up
Jeese did you eat the drugs again.
This is the best comment, thank you
@AsarathaHS you just got owned
The story became trash now 🥱
fitting to your pfp 🤡
The lack of reactions from the kids is definitely one of the biggest issues. It's like they're not even relevant characters anymore. I was so hyped to see what effect going through this crazy fight and learning about all these crazy revelations was going to have on them. I had so many questions, like "Will any of the students rethink wanting to be heroes and walk away from the fight?" "Will any of the students become vengeful after seeing so much death?" "How will Todoriki, Ochako, and Iida react to the truth about Deku?" "Will anyone be hurt or angry that Deku has struck out on his own?" "Will Bakugo struggle to recover physically from what seemed like a very significant injury, or will having come so close to death have any sort of emotional impact on him?" It seemed like such a perfect time to deepen our favorite characters or ones who haven't gotten the spotlight yet. But instead, it was just... nothing.
tbf the todorokis were heavily impacted by the return of toya
these cringe fans really be digging too deep into this shit bro this is just an anime, y'all
getting too serious right now lmaoooo
@@clintguia7984 Don't give that "it's just an anime" spiel. Plenty of others in the same genre alone have done things similar to MHA without falling flat on their faces. What's its excuse?
@@clintguia7984 Dude this was 4 months ago
@@clintguia7984 nah the problem is my hero has so much wasted potential it could hav even so much more than as you put it "just an anime"
All Might: it's a hero's job to meddle
All Might, after the Todoroki family situation got exposed: well i'm staying tf away from that shit
Ngl, funniest thing I've seen all day 😂
It's also weird that All Might and Endeavor are on the same team during Villain Hunt but we completely skipped All Might's thoughts and feelings on Endeavor abusing his family and having children to surpass him.
we also skipped endeavors feelings about One for All but ill get to that some day lmao
@@AsarathaHSYT I guess young Enji telling Endeavor "he'll never be Deku or All Might" is the closest we will get to that which is a shame.
@@joturd23 Because All-Might is a human being and should have individual opinions about people he knows? We see basically nothing change when Endeavor's behavior got revealed except for people practically forgiving him. No disappointment, no distrust, no disgust, nothing.
That's not normal. And we can't just assume All-Might has better things to worry about. We didn't even get his thoughts.
@@muntu1221 This right here, it's asinine
@@muntu1221 True All Might as a character in chapters post War doesn’t get much opinions on his thoughts about anything else
MHA just don't hit like it used to. All these super 'BIG' events have been happening for the last couple of arcs, but I consistently finish each chapter feeling mostly underwhelmed.
There's been no room for storylines to breath, and a lack of long term consequences that personally resonate with the characters makes everything feel kinda hollow.
Still waiting for that moment where everything magically clicks for me again, but like this video says, it might be a case of too little too late.
Same here man, I haven’t felt truly connected to the story for atleast a good two years, it just hasn’t been consistent enough to get back to where it used to be, even the current events haven’t moved me even though it’s the final arc
@Mathew Chacko honestly, it's been even longer for me. The last time I truly enjoyed MHA was the Overhaul arc, which wrapped up in the manga in early 2018. That's five years, at this point. The main two arcs after that point that everyone hypes up are My Villain Academia and Paranormal Liberation War. This video airs out the flaws of the latter, and the former fails to fix what has always been one of MHA's biggest problems for me - the villains are too half-baked.
i want an alt universe where they continue the story from the start of s3
The competition arc was the peak imo, even tho I never liked the competition format of battle anime.
Honestly, the last time I felt "satisfied" with mha was probably the school festival arc. It was a nice resolution after the whole Overhaul arc, like, the kids went through some really rough stuff and now they get to breathe and be kids. Eri is now in the process of healing from all the bad things that happened, and we're setting up that she could eventually, maybe, restore Mirio's quirk. I liked that arc because it gave the story a moment to breathe, it gave the students something to do that was low stakes as a cap to the previous storyline, it developed their relationships. And then everything became big thing after big thing and it felt like the story somewhat lost its way? I don't really know how to explain it, but it seriously lost me after that. At this point I only follow it to see how it ends
one thing he didnt mention is aizawa not giving a shit about midnights death like bro thats yo friend 😭
You know, I didn’t even realize that the kids had not mentioned anything about Midnight’s death and how it affected them after the war.
I also felt like how Deku’s character arc when he was going off on his own was rushed. I (personally) would’ve liked it if we got to see his mental struggle a bit more and give it time to breathe and seem more dangerous and unhealthy, then have his friends come in and save him.
But they did(sorta). One was when izuku was resting before he started his vigilante journey or somepoint when he came back, then again in this current arc where the pink chick, kirishima and some others encountered the villain that killed Midnight
@@dredvax But did they go in depth about how the kids feel and how each individual kid was impacted by it? No they didn't. Unless a future chapter shows how Midnight's death impacted Mina and the others, that portion of the chapter is not enough for me.
It didn't even last 20 chapters like holy shit was that rushed
The only one in the whole class who said something that acknowledged Midnight's death was Mina.
@@dredvax "Pink chick"?
Her name is Mina Ashido.
One big problem is that this show pushes the other classmates into background characters at first it seems like all the characters will get focus and we learn more about them NOPE there just nothing while we focus on the Shonen trio just like every other Shonen.
This is what happens when Deku becomes a Mary Sue
OFA invalidated Sugar man and black whip makes Sero useless
@@aceclover758 Gearshift and Float also invalidating Iida and Ochako respectively too...
@@blutygar Gearahift is so true
As for Float, Ochako can still touch others to effect them
That's why small cast's are better. Just Like JJK.
@@aceclover758 wrong
The consiquences of the adult characters being undermined like Mirko losing limbs, Best Jeanist coming back suddenly, Hawks having his back incinerated and Aizawa being seriously injured also damaged the themes of the story. If the adult characters were all out of comission (save Endeavor since he still has a lot of story left to tell), it would force class 1-A to step up and be the next generation. But the adult characters are still leading the fight and class 1-A isn't nearly as central as they should be. Monoma having to use Erasure is excellent, but with Aizawa there it's more like Monoma is a living prosthetic for Aizawa in the way the scene is framed. Hawks could have fully passed the torch onto Tokoyami, but Hawks is still on the front lines. Ojiro would be a decent successor to Mirko in terms of fighting style and yet Mirko just has prosthetics instead, and what could have been a good arc for Ojiro never happened because the story just kept moving along at that breakneck pace. And having Mirko, have to slow down would give her lots of opportunities to develop since she can't just brute force her way through life on her own terms anymore. Living vicariously through Ojiro would have been an interesting manifestation of her no longer being able to do everything she used to.
Class 1-A played support to the Pro Heroes in the war arc, and in this final act, the heroes should be supporting class 1-A instead, and yet it somehow still feels like our characters in a coming of age story are just the apprentices. Bakugo and Deku feel like the only members of 1-A who matter anymore, with a few of them like Tokoyami and Jiro getting compensated with moments. The consiquences of the war arc were all undone but it undid the story's potential even more
You don't deserve the story then, you're saying lots of things that I don't even bothered reading your
comment. Again, if you can't enjoy something, leave it.
@@clintguia7984 Shut up, consoomer
@@Zenn_Chan Yeah sure 💀
@@clintguia7984 can't people give constructive criticism to a manga anymore? pointing out writing flaws in something doesn't mean the person criticizing is any less of a fan
Holyshit you're so right, seeing the pro heros mentor class 1a would've been great, it would add character, also since they were lacking Heroes at the end of the war ark they'll need to use kids. Also class 1a literally participated in the war. Why aren't they patrolling the streets or something??!
Very well said. By far the worst aspect of the Final Act of MHA, at least in my opinion, is how it retroactively diminishes the impact of not only this arc, but arguably a good portion of the story as a whole, both narratively and thematically. I was willing to forgive the cluttered mess that was the end of the last fight in this arc if it led to some genuinely good stuff (and don't get me wrong, the hospital stuff is hands-down some of Horikoshi's best writing with 305 being my personal favorite chapter in the whole series), but so, so much of what we have gotten since has felt lackluster at best and like a massive slap in the face at worst. During this arc, it felt like MHA had so much potential to soar to even greater heights, but now all I'm hoping is that by the end it can crawl its way back to the levels of excitement I felt in the middle of PLW.
When I was a kid I use to write wattpad (sorry). I'd normally think about a powerful scene and build the story around that so that I could eventually write out that scene. That's what I think MHA is doing, making strange decisions and fucking up the pacing so they can shoehorn in an emotional scene
The apology 💀
I did the same thing, and I’d always delete it after cause I could never get from point A to point B
Pretty much the entire writing process for BvS lol
yknow what would be cool? midoriya losing an arm for pushing too hard that they had to amputate it. But then finds a way to alleviate that by using his dark whip quirk as his replacement.
If I'm being honest ever since this arc finished it went from my favorite to my 4th to now near the bottom I just don't get the 'hype' around the arc while Dabi's dance is fantastic it doesn't save the arc from all the other choices made which is sad as I was reading MHA and BC every week and after the UA traitor reveal I dropped MHA and I think ill just wait till the series is over to read the final arc
I dropped after the sports festival. I hate bakugou too much to stomach him wining.
@@julianmartinez4719 just deal with it
My answer is Horikoshi is fucking tired. Let’s just finish the series
And hes scared his own fan base is too immature to handle an actual important character death aside from side characters no ones seen for more than 5 panels
PEAKIUM FICTIONIUM
peak fiction is when you respond to someones grievances with the status quo by calling them a friendless loser. thank you mirio
Bro most of these complaints I was already making during the weekly release.
I remember being so disappointed by how easily and quickly Shigaraki's new army fell. Te lack of utilization of the Liberation Front members. The removal of ReDestro and the High Ends that were so well built up. Shigaraki never gets to put the leadership skills he's learned to good use. He wakes up, and while in the moment his mass destruction is fucking awesome... I couldn't help but hope the arc would take a quick beat. Give Shiggy just a sec to co-ordinate an actual plan or counter attack with his team. Hell, even if that was too much to ask for, it felt so cheap how through most of his fight with Deku- he's just nerfed completely. Just taking punches. Then passing out. Then being taken over by a much lamer villain.
Deku and Shiggy finally meet. It's their first meeting since the Stain arc. These fated rivals finally clash. And Deku just kicks and screams. Never really says anything interesting until literally the end. When he decides that villains may need saving. Whcih is.. an obvious route to take. But it never felt like the arc was building up to that Deku never seems all that shaken by Shiggy and Dabi's villainous monologues about the flaws of the society he used to blindly believe in.
I'd say the only good parts of the arc that still hold up when I read them are the Hawks and Dabi moments. Yeah, they are kinda weakened by the shitty follow through in later arcs, but they at least feel like Hori making the absolute MOST of the pieces he's put in place. At least for the moment.
Fr, ReDestro was so useless 💀
I agree with your point that the war arc(and all future arcs leading up to the final war arc) have just completely glossed over the issues regarding the reaction of the kids and the villains to the war. Class 1-A, and ALL of UA as a whole just witnessed the deaths of thousands of heroes, including their teachers/mentors, civilians and learn some dark truths about hero society. These children have been through severe trauma and suffering that will NEVER be undone and the story just brushes past it like it's a normal instance to occur to a bunch of high schoolers. The manga does nothing to address the emotional weight of the war arc and how it impacted to kids overall.
While it can be argued that the manga does show how it affected the kid by showing them be more mature and working in unison to finally put an end to All For One's reign, it only implies that they were affected. Sure we see them cry and be furious, but it doesn't go any deeper than that. It doesn't show how the kid have been changed internally in terms of thoughts and emotions. Even if they show towards the end, it'll make the tone of the manga come off as emotionally drained instead of satisfying.
As for the villains, the lack of reaction to Twice'd death completely undermines their whole vibe of found family. These villains developed bonds and friendships with each other and fought side by side with one another and yet when one of their own dies, it's just completely ignored by virtually everyone.
To me, This whole war arc has only shown that the battles that the heroes' and villains endured have succeeded and emotionally hardening everyone, making them seem cold and distant from the war as a way to cope. And I'm not sure if that's the interpretation of this situation to that Horikoshi's going for.
I feel like the only one we should've seen react to Twice other than Toga was Shigaraki at the least. Toga's reaction was exactly what it needed to be, but AFO taking over shiggy and denying us his perspective on the losses of twice and compress is one of his biggest fumbles
@@TheCreed1217 I agree. Shigaraki was the one of the closest people to Twice after Toga. But since All for One consumed Tomura and he supposedly "no longer exists", now we may never know how he truly feels about Twice's death. Just because he's a villain does not mean he doesn't have any feelings or emotions toward losing the ones he cares about. By doing this whole plot of Shigaraki losing himself to All for One, you turn him into a 2-dimensional villain who only cares about watching the whole world burn without having any depths or valid reasons behind it.
@@noodlespence8080 yeah its sad the direction its gone in, and we can only guess if we'll ever see that or not. But it seems so unlikely now
Shigaraki should’ve thought about Twice when Lemillion said he never had friends
I feel like this show has way WAY too many characters included. To the point that characters end up lacking proper follow through of a number of plots. I never watched the show, nor read the manga, but I’ve been fascinated by the story and the cast overall. But from an outside perspective, it always felt like there was a lot going on, and that would soon bite the show and books in the ass. I really hope I’m wrong about that though.
Honestly the time skips should of never existed and instead the characters are explored and stuff
Example, after usj attack izuku goes out to get some stuff for his mom and runs into Mina being discrimination “being blamed for usj” and izuku stands up for her and then they bond threw out the day,
Class 1-b should of went to usj at one point to introduce them much better
I love when manga and anime take time to show the mc’s react and take in what just happened to them. Chainsaw Man comes to mind. Characters get traumatized, or harbor on the things they do
6:00 to 9:00 is my absolute biggest problem with Act III of MHA 😤
My biggest issues with *"War Arcs"* in Mangas and even comics anyway is that they usually span a couple of days and maybe a week or two in story.
Granted that doesn't necessarily make it not a war, it just seems hollow. I would like a comic/manga that shows a war that spans years...and maybe there is one that does that, wait technically Code Geass is a couple of years I think so I debunked myself....but MHA and Naruto last hours to days respectively.
Have ever read Kingdom ? If so what do you think about the wars
@@thawerty8273 No, I haven't heard of Kingdom, please tell me about it. What's it about?
@@larryjake7783 It is about the unification of China, the majority of the arcs are wars that really happened, it is the best for me when it comes to this, all strategies and so on, it also has great political arcs, where they have to make alliances, betrayals, and having resources to invest in the war
The story could have been great but the author didn’t even want to write for this long he was force by the popularity of the series
I think the issue stems from something that we may not have the whole story on.
After the war, it felt like Horikoshi began to rush the story to a conclusion. I can see a few different reasons for this. I'm not gonna speculate on a possible health condition. But I think it's very possible that Jump gave Horikoshi The Tite Kubo treatment.
Basically, forcing him to rush the story. The parrallels between him and Kubo rn are kinda scaring me.
now that the manga's finished, this vid along with many others you did really encapsulates why the entire third arc's pacing was dogshit, just a non-stop barrage of fights with no setup or interesting themes, and a ton of shit that just "looks cool", how the kinda-mighty fell. i cant wait for your retrospective on this
Keep up the good work, Asa
6:27 to be fair to shiggy, unless I'm mistaken, it's still unclear weather he actually KNOWS about twice's death at all.
Love yourself first and most
Believe in yourself
Quitters never win and winners never quit
Don't give up and never give in
Ignore those who try to discourage you
Hang on to your dreams
Take control of own destiny
Take care of yourself
Keep moving forward
Stand up for yourself
Stand tall and be brave
Stay strong
Act of kindness people
I always end up skipping the students sections except for a select few that I like, the VILLAINS are the driving force of the series and the only reason I still read it, you can tell that since Bakugou and Endeavor especially have gotten more popular, Horikoshi focuses less on the plot and more on shoving those two whenever possible no matter how irrelevant they are especially Bakugou
PREACH IT, no matter what, i can't see in what kind of way bakugou colaborates in the plot over all, never understood his popularity.
Keep it up on your work and this video and channel
I have to agree with almost all of this. There were 3 things that were seriously bothering me watching this arc that you pretty much covered.
3. Everyone glancing over Endeavor's abuse. Not even the kids, or all might react to it. Not a single person said "Child abuse! He should be in prison!" In the very least, Dabi's dance is one of the best moments ever.
2. Shigaraki being taken over. This absolutely drove me nuts, and they completely ruined the main villain for it. When watching Season 6, I thought this was DEFINETELY the worst part of the show. I enjoyed when Shigaraki destroyed the manifestation of All for One... Only for that to be undone. However, in retrospect, this was just the second most annoying thing to happen in this show.
1. The most annoying thing in this show... Is pretty much the lack of care for Deku's quirk. This is probably the most important reveal in the entire anime. Dabi being Endeavor's son is definetely a contender, however that one is both a shock to the characters AND the audience, which makes it extremely effective. This one is different: it's a secret that we already know about, but the characters don't (save for a few). The question here is, how do they react when they find out?
The result is quite disappointing. Not enough questions are being asked about it. How does Endeavor feel about being second place to a literal kid? How do the other pros feel about having to rely on him, a KID?!?
How does Class 1A feel about this? This video is exactly right; they all just accept it together, instead of questioning the whole thing, and forming their own doubts. I'm surprised Iida and Uraraka weren't hurt by this, as they were close with Deku.
This all goes double for Todoroki; he should be swelling with emotions over this. He's finding out that one of his best friends has the quirk of the previous number 1 hero, and never told him about it. Todoroki would understand Deku's pain the most, since he is the son of the current number 1 hero, a guy who has litterally abused him trying to make him perfect. Just imagine the pain he would have, seeing All Might have a great relationship with his successor, while Todoroki is having an awful one with his dad, especially with the Dabi reveal. I honestly think Todoroki should be questioning his friendship with Deku.
So, pretty much no one has a strong opinion on Deku having One for All, which is quite disappointing. However, let's look at All Might, as he has done something arguably as bad as Endeavor.
All Might: "You abused your children to force them to become heroes?"
Endeavor: "Aren't you doing the same to Midoriya?"
Now yes, All Might isn't litterally abusing Deku or forcing him to do anything, and he is constantly trying to make sure he's okay. All Might is a great mentor. However, that doesn't matter in the eyes of the public. Here's what the public sees:
He gave his quick to a 15 year old kid. He entrusted the strongest power in the entire world... to a boy who can't handle it, a boy who snaps his arms every time he tries to use it. He basically threw another kid onto the battlefield who didn't need to be there. All Might was never questioned for this decision?
Now yeah, the show does address this, with the Pros deciding not to tell the public about One for All, as that would put a bigger target on Deku and All Might. However, if All for One really views All Might as "pathetic," (which he litterally calls him that), then why doesn't he try to destroy his legacy?
All he has to do is say, "By the way, want to know why All Might isn't protecting you right now? It's because he gave his powers to a 15 year old kid." Boom, All Might is now ruined, and framed as a groomer. Now in the public's eyes, he's no different than Endeavor, and the hero society is FOREVER ruined. Even Hero Killer Stain would despise him! (Though I will honestly admit, I'm glad All for One did not do this, as ruining All Might would seriously destroy the show).
This is addressed atleast, as the Pros speculate that All for One isn't going public about Deku, because he doesn't want the heroes to hide Deku in an unreachable place. This... Is a logical conclusion. Still, I wish more thought was put into the story and explanations. I love this arc, but too much happened at once, and it needed more fleshing out. Just my 2 cents.
Dang you wrote a whole ass esay
Could you make a video on how you would personally fix these problems?
I truly hate the AFO taking over Shigi’s body thing. It halted his character progression. MHA as a whole is a series that really needed a time skip. Show the aftermath of the war (better) on both sides, deku goes on the run, then BOOM, timeskip, 3 years later “dark deku” arc starts
At least that’s my take
I would rather see the aftermath of the war arc happen *gradualy* than timeskip 2 years and have all of those moments happen offscreen.
If the anime takes a different direction and kills off Gran Torino in the hospital that would actually be a stronger lead in to Dekus depression arc
I know the main issue here. Its because Horikoshi no longer has passion with MHA anymore. He is skimming through chapters by chapters, pulling shit out of his ass because honestly he just wants to end his series already. The war arc was basically his limit for giving passion to his work because now, he's fast forwarding everything with out having any real proper growth. Its shitty reasoning but thats the reason
My least favorite part about the arc was Bakugo's hero name. The whole point of his previous crappy hero names was to show how off base he was on what a hero is. Those cringey, try-hard names show he is a violent, egoistical asshole who just wants to beat people up to prove what a big boy he is. A REAL hero name should inspire hope and safety in civilians, allude to your quirk to discourage villains, or be at least be marketable, all other hero names aim for these. Bakugo seeing the only man he wants to improve himself for return from the dead to heat his hero name should be a moment of growth where Bakugo can take the lessons hes learned up till now and accept what it means to be a hero.
Instead, he doubles down on the cringey, try-hard, impossible to remember jumble of middle school nonsense he started the series as, only this time everyone playcates him! It just goes to show, Bakugo will never ACTUALLY change, no matter how much character development he goes through, because I guess his abrasive personality is more marketable to the pansyies in charge. Vegetta all over agian.
Me doesn't care what some random TH-camr says about MHA
while I still enjoy watching every second of it
I can say that mha first enemy is monologues and slow motions and flashbacks in the fight scenes . It feels cheap . And make us forgot what is happening. + Why they always talk about the sane thing twice at the same episode???
Honestly I'm not a fan of the whole shigaraki being fused with all for one idea or how all for on keeps coming back
I think it would of been better if shigaraki broke away from his master and been his own villain just like how Deku is trying to be his own hero isntead of being a copy of allmight
But now it feels like shigaraki is just being taken over and being controlled by all for one isntead
You have no idea how quickly the whole Shigaraki being possessed by all for one and how they botched Mirio and eri's storyline completely killed my interest in the war arc. Honestly in my opinion I think this war arc is about as bad as the naruto one for different reasons.
Very well said!
Now I understand why some people say “no heroes died in the war”.
It’s not their fault but the death didn’t stay impressive in readers minds.
All for one is too calm. I'd rather watch shigaraki rampage
Bro, let’s be honest. All for One taking shigaraki did suck, but it was awesome at the same time. If he represents true villainy and evil, then taking the spotlight from his protege and making the audience hate him more, is peak villainy and vileness
The Deku damage one literally doesn’t make sense in my opinion. Do you know what one for all is? Stockpiled energy that not only increases the strength speed and agility of the user, but also the durability. Meaning that his ability to take damage is on par with his ability to dish out attacks. For example for a 100% deku to be hurt he would have to be hit with an attack that scales to his power. This includes everything whether it be burns from fire or just brute force. He isn’t like shoto and Bakugo in the sense that his body has a normal pain and durability threshold. It’s like superman tanking bullets. That’s part of one for all. Now at the beginning when he could only use 5% and he would use 100% he was receiving damage of roughly 95% more than what his body could handle. Now in order to rise to the 45% that he possessed at the time that means his body had to adapt and become stronger. It also means that as opposed to receiving damage of 95% more than he can handle, he received damage of 55% more than he can handle. This is a severe drop off and explains why the damage to his body doesn’t scale the same. It isn’t an asspull, it’s logical.
yes it may be a failure war arc but many seem to enjoy it though especially after the S6 came out
baby boy should just give a hair to mirio
See i think all for one was able to take over Shigarki's body since Shigarki was damaged pretty hard in the fight between Shigarki and deku as well as Shigarki being burnt into a crisp by endeavor
I think the quick pace of the series makes it suffer later on. It was acceptable earlier with lower scale arcs but we get huge events now with no time to absorb the consequences of the events. I still love MHA and I think the War Arc individually was awesome but the final arc is definitely lacking and makes it feel like it had little impact
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Nobody in the series has “bodied” Endeavor.
I remember this arc well. I do remember Enji chasing Shigaraki for kilometers as he headed to the city from the Mountain. Had that chapped lip b*tch running
Puting it like that, it is very bad, now i feel bad for what it could have been.
Horikoshi is definitely burnt out with mha
Ah so this is why people right so many fan fics for this series
The cast in JJK is much smaller yet it managed to show us that civillian no.552 is absolutely obliterated in the Shibuya arc and it managed to also show us how much destruction there is. Were fully aware about the lives at stake even outside the Jujutsu cast and were shown with such a good minimalistic non intrusive approach, because no one really cares about literal background characters and yet they are really important when it comes to a "War" arc. How many times do i have to see Civilians in MHA start their 15th Riot, how many times do we need them to be shoved into our faces with a "OMG these are not my heroes !" scenes.. okay we get it, morally grey, unrest, cool.. Show don't tell.. MHA has the worst exposition dump problem i've ever seen, it's one thing to narrate fights, it's an other to be told and shown the fucking blood type of every character at the start of each episode, every appearance.. Has to rotate thru all the heroes, make a freeze frame, pull a comic mozaik filter over it, roll out the details of the hero down to their hobbies whilst explaining how their quirk works for the hundredth time, repeat until there is no character left, repeat until there is no episode is left, u bet your ass it added up over 113 episodes.
I feel like the only people that give a crap about MHA characters are hardcore fans, like not fun fans but like.. sad fans.. the kind you look at and you experience second hand Suicidal ideation.
Bakugo, Midoriya, Shoto.. Named all the characters 90% of people that actively consume the series really care about. Like you'd think someone like Ochako is really important, i can't remember a single scene about Ochako, not since the tournament arc, what even happened with her since ? Did she just exists and idolize Deku ? Das all ? She's a one Dimensional character. Yet we are constantly led to believe she's a core member of the cast. 113 Episodes people.. That's 2 Days of run time.. The toddler sized grapefruit head literal sexual predator, the literal comic relief character has more screen time, has more to say then Ochako..
2016 was the year S1 aired, 8 years since, those 16y old kids grown up to be 24 but the show didn't grow in maturity, the complexities that it has are only temporary, even if Ochako had a Character development moment u bet it's been long forgotten exactly because the change was not Fundamental, it was not consistent, it was just for those few pages, just for that one scene in that one episode. And that's just Ochako, i don't even know let alone care who the Frog girl is, i watched all of the aired episodes and i don't know her name.. Acid girl ? Who gives a flying fuck. The mountain face guy with the weird voice ? The shinny bellybutton guy ? The others at least had something going here and there but i wouldn't really call that a achievement, not gonna be led to believe these guys are Class "A" let alone Class A in terms of Character..
will watch MHA just for the sake of seeing the resolution to it but this is just a shit show at this point.
But still the animation in s2 was kinda mid especially the sukuna vs jogo fight
Bakugo should have died. His revival was a wasted opportunity imo
Honestly. Him sacrificing himself. After all he’s done. Him going out as a true hero would have been an amazing send off.
Before. Being a hero cause he wanted to beat up others and be the strongest. Then becoming a true hero, and fighting for what’s right and in the end. Giving his life to do so. Would have been awesome to see.
They can't do that sadly lmao. Why? The reasons being:
1. Bakugou's fangirls would mad and protesting to the point they will send death threat to Horikoshi
2. Bakugo is Horikoshi's favorite character, that's why he don't want Bakugo to die and why everyone in MHA brushing off Bakugo bullying Midoriya
Drop MHA and make a Vigilantes anime. Franchise is saved.
The biggest thing I feel about mha war Arc is that in trying to not let mha go on forever like one piece etc. He's trying to rush to the finish that he dropped everything that he built up so now I almost felt like I wasted my time with mha
The entire arc feels like a SLOG and most of the ensable cast that were build are just kinda. Useless and sitting there, only pretending to be useful
It’s the fandoms fault. There’s a reason they’re considered the most toxic fandom and it has obviously weighed on Hori
yes im sure horikoshi is going on reddit to read english speakers talk about his series. you are very smart
@@AsarathaHSYT meh it’s not just engish people
I’ve watched a collective of 10 minutes from this show. This video is for me.
I just finished the war arc (I think) in the anime and it felt like it should have been peak but it felt so mid and anti climactic. Did not feel like an actual war with stakes or emotions
It was overhyped af
@@deuce5546 nope
Invalid opinion
@@PoIarisPrime You have a Deku pfp I don't think I need to point out how biased your opinion is
@@deuce5546 ah so apparently character pfp = bias
MY HERO ACADEMIA DIDN'T FALL OFF CURRENTLY!
Kouhei Horikoshi still cooking!
Here a year later. I still think the newest/last war arc is ass and I just want this series to end as much as Horikoshi does. I feel like MHA is holding him back and that he just really wants to write that horror manga.
The thing that I hated about this war arc is the fact that the against shigaraki was so boring and long I hated that new characters come and most get injured and get back temporary it felt weird but I like the momo leader arc and midnight sacrifice
U sound like moist critical
For me, War arc went like this: heroes and villians saw each other, fought for a little bit, then retreated. It had almost 0 consequences. I'm waiting for JJK S2 to show how it's done.
Shibuya was good but I actually think the consequences in MHA are handled better
@@jasonjones3328 they are better idk what this guy is talking about acting like jjk is way better when only nanami died
@@Ch33zyTac0 nobara? Naobito? All of the disaster curses? Did you even read shibuya?
@@jasonjones3328 this must be a joke. Gran Torino lives, mirko lives, bakugo lives, this was has dogshit consequences
@@davidson6738
I meant the after affect of the war
The anime will probably fix these issues. Just like how AoT anime fixed the shitty manga ending.
Does he know?
The Hawks wings one will always get me. It was OBVIOUSLY pointing to heavy consequences for Hawks' actions but then... his feathers just grow back a little slower. Dark Shadows comment does nothing but mislead the audience into thinking there will be consequences.
Wasnt it stated from Hawks that "were far from our prime" to afo, yes he Got his wings back but there not at all of what there used to be, there not strong as there used to be but that doesnt mean hes going to stop fighting since it wasnt meant to stop him fighting but again that Means he never going to be as he was before which i think was a good consequence
But thats My opinion you can disagree if you want since god knows alot of People will
@@AgentNero9 not a big consequence in the slightest, considering he’s still able to live and breathe freely, whilst still being able to fight at a reasonably high level albeit not at his peak, that’s comparable to losing a bit of stamina as one gets older, its not a serious consequence to face when coming out of a war where death and life altering injuries are prevalent in other series and in real life.
@@Chackz0 yeah it never meant to stop him from fighting, Hell his wings probebly arent in a good spot right now due to the fact he Got one shoted by afo,he was able to hurt afos mask due to the fact because of timing it on the right time and the fact because likes to shit talk then anything, even then he had help to break afos mask, even then afo was a able to repair his mask but again endeavor had to help with Hawks wings which are probebly burnt by his fire
His wings look like there glewed together
His wings were healed because it was never meant to stop him from fighting but even then he still had trouble fighting
He Will never be as strong,fast and durable
But again thats in My opinion i know damn well that most People here wouldnt agree
@@asimplewizard Yes, his feathers will grow back if they are burned, here's the thing though, it wasn't just his feathers that Dabi was burning, it was his WHOLE BACK, directly where they GROW FROM, that had been roasted so badly that Dark Shadow exclaimed "His back... it's gone!".
If you know anything about what happens to burnt skin tissue or basic storytelling then you'd realise that it's complete bullshit that his wings grew back, especially when Horikoshi emphasized the injury to such a degree that it implied permanent damage.
Instead, the only result is that his feathers grow back a little slower, and oh wait! He gets magic prosthetic feathers to help him out! Which makes absolutely no fucking sense because his feathers are telekinetic that he controls with his mind.
In any case, he's still fast enough to keep AFO on the back foot, and even momentarily keep up with Prime AFO trying to escape! It's almost like his injury and the risk he took killing Twice never mattered. Talk about consequences, huh. 🫤
@@asimplewizard not only did his back get burnt but it was by flames hotter then the number 1 hero's (endeavor) not only that but at POINT BLANK RANGE idk how his wings could have possibly grown back
I honestly can't believe Gran Torino is still alive. It would've definitely made more sense to kill him off during the war or even at the hospital. Not only that but it would make Deku wearing his cape even more significant. The fact that even after so many chapters he's still nowhere to be seen but somehow alive, makes me question if killing him was the intention but Hori backed down or if he still (somehow) has a purpose in the story
I mean is it that bad if we dont see grand Torino is Dead or not?
@@AgentNero9 yes because there’s little to no stakes in this story, gran torino isn’t essential to the plot and killing him in the war arc would have added more purpose/emotional depth behind the war arc (especially on dekus part) other than that we saw midnight dying (who hardly ever got screentime) and fodder heroes added alongside a few lost limbs to try make up for it
@@Chackz0 again is it THAT bad , Hell we have big stakes in the current war Arc so i dont really see it Being needed for stakes while we already have stakes in the story, Hell even before the final war there were stakes
So i dont really ser it as big of a problem
But again thats in My opinion
@@AgentNero9 when it’s meant to be a “war” arc and is used to signify the drastic change of the world then yeah it does matter, otherwise its meaningless, the heroes came out of it fine with minor injuries and that was it, even now the stakes are only there because its the final arc meaning he can kill off anyone now, it just makes the previous war arc consequences seem meaningless/futile
@@Chackz0 i understand that but i dont really think its a big problem, it doesnt affect the story in a bad or positive way when we already have stakes in the current war Arc and before it, mha isnt perfect and i definitely see the flaws in the past war Arc and current arcs but i do want to appriciate the good stuff we good from these arcs(well in My opinion)
But i do find it confusing that hori was able to kill off bakugo but not grand Torino?
But still i dont really see a problem since it doesnt affect the story and we still Got good amount of stakes but again thats in My opinion
The newest chapters really do make me realize that Star and Stripe wasnt needed at all
I felt she was only there to nerf AFO and Shigaraki. Nothing else.
Literally one of the most op quirks in this anime and she gets taken out of commission in 1 chapter. And after all the hype too. It was pretty disappointing.
@@JLacay And even that wasn't really relevant. The fact that AFO has an unknown amount of quirks with unkown limits and effects means that we don't really feel that he actually lost any power, like, the things Tomura/AFO uses the most in battle are his super strength, decay and regeneration, and he still has all of those. For all we know the quirks that were destroyed probably weren't important to AFO's plan.
@@JLacay Did it even do that though? He's already nerfed due to the effects of Erasure.
She wasn’t. Smh. Just don’t make her character if you not gonna do anything with her. Cool design cool power just to be forgotten.
Still crazy to me how we saw All Might watching the broadcast, and we never see his reaction to Endeavor's abuse. Stuff like this is why PLW loses value over time.
Even Hawks is like “yeah domestic abuse is bad, but it’s not my kids so who cares” which is crazy because Hawks also had that same type of childhood
The sheer number of prosthetics which can keep up with the biological powerhouse Quirks makes me feel like the point of Izuku ever getting a Quirk in the first place was pointless. If Aizawa and Midnight, normal human adults if not for their niche Quirks, can compete with some of the stronger villains in the series just with hero tools, why did anyone ever believe that Midoriya COULDN'T have been a hero without a Quirk?
Aizawa and Midnight CAN'T compete with the stronger villains. Aizawa got the shit beat out of him by the USJ Nomu, got stabbed by Toga once, and then lost one of his eyes to Shigaraki. And how can you say that Midnight can keep up with the stronger villains when she couldn't even survive in the 1st war arc against *regular* villains?
@John Lambert Mr. Compress has a mask, Toga also wears a mask sometimes.
And Toga *did* stab Aizawa in Season 4, go back and watch that episode. After she stabs Rock Lock, Deku and Aizawa show up, then she out maneuvers Aizawa and stabs him.
what annoys me the most is that the show started differently. Everything seemed to matter, every decision had lasting results. Be it Ida's injured hand and often desperation to overcome his failures as a hero when it mattered, Deku's injuries, Momo's insecurity for failing during the school festival, Bakugo's descent into cornering himself until he breaks, Shoto's opening up and trying to figure his position out, but not without steps back and forth. For most characters that had any significant screen time, there were elements that were lasting, that were defining, that went on to linger even when the plot didn't focus on it anymore.
And all of that is gone now, and that is what frustrates me the most. It feels like giving up on the story, and trying to wrap it up, not making an actual good story anymore.
It's boring now
One of the worst takes
I feel like the focus diverted to much to the whole class who are all a bunch of weaklings that do nothing but fight fodder. I know it sounds harsh but before, because everyone were fairly close strenght wise, it felt more like they mattered to the story as a whole, now Deku is stronger than most profesionals heros, and characters like Mineta do nothing but sit around while the world is ending in front of them
@@PoIarisPrime lol it's good take whine more.
@@PoIarisPrimein comparison to season 1-3 it's hella boring
14:50 also post War arc Deku’s power scaling is a complete mess now, we spend hundreds of chapters keeping up with his progress up to him using 20%+ Air Force and Black whip, then for the war arc we jump to 45% (which isn’t a big deal for me) and Float, ok it’s a bit much but we still kinda know his limits, then on act III he gets new prostetics who just vaguely help his arms, danger sense, smoke, Fa Jin and supposedly All Might level strength in a single arc, in the current arc I have no idea how strong Deku is, how far can he go with his quirk, the limits of his support gear, NOTHING
How am I supposed to be invested in a fight between him and shigaraki if I don’t know the limits of either of them???
I mean we haven't been able to quantify shigaraki's upper limits either so why cant you be invested. Shigaraki's benchmark is at least prime all might level if not higher, as has been stated in the last war and reiterated in the current chapter. I dont think you need it explained to you how All Might was the strongest character in the verse fucked up, so just imagine he's even stronger in his prime.
Deku's strength would have to rival Prime AMs if not surpass it to stand a chance and his vast array of quirks can jump him to a false 100% level. Meaning he can match AM at least, but now that shigaraki's body is reaching the singularity and his body is at 100%, there's no telling what he can do with quirks in the mix.
So tldr physically theyre probably on par, abilities unsure because most of dekus skills are only useful as support, fajins power buff and we still don't know what the 2nds quirk can do. You should just go in expecting an AFO vs AM like fight except x10 in terms of power(s)
Deku is literally getting new powers as the plot advances after spending 200 chapters honing his one power. It's ridiculous.
@@deuce5546 New Powers that make sense for what he's fighting against. Cant really beat the main villain when his base abilities match Deku's in strength and his best power is you literally cant touch me or you fucking die!
If Deku didn't get those buffs he wouldn't stand a chance
@@TheCreed1217 That isn't really an excuse nor justifies it, if you want your MC to be able to realistically fight your villain despite being only a student:
A. don't make the villain so OP
B. just tell us from the beginning he inherited several quirks, don't make it a secret, otherwise it feels like a waste of time
C. Don't make the protagonist fight your villain, imagine if in HxH Gon got a Nen power up that made him strong enough to defeat Meruem just because the story needs the main hero to defeat the villain.
Anything is better than giving Deku a new power each arc with the justification that it's part of the powers he inherited.
@@deuce5546 A. No reason why the villain shouldn't be OP when the main villain of the story is an All Might level character passing on all of his power onto his progeny the same way All Might does to Deku in making him a stupidly over powered protagonist.
B. That'd be stupid and defeat the point of the mystery. Just because you didn't like it doesn't make it bad, when in context NONE of them would have any way in knowing this information.
C. This is a stupid ass comparison when that very thing was a possibility as it did happen and the only reason Gon didnt kill Mereum is because he's a selfish brat throwing a tantrum over his dead friend, realistically prioritizing his issues over everyone else's makes sense within the context of HxHs story which is why that part is very well written.
Lastly Deku got new powers in 3 arcs: 1Avs1B which revealed the mystery of OFA much like other quirks evolving to an unstable degree, MVA where he awakened float and to a degree danger sense, and the start of the final arc literally every other power had already been awakened. Its not as egregious as you make it out to be and all it shows is your personal bias against it. All your reasons just scream, dont let the author write what he wants. Don't like it? Cool but dont say the context of it all doesn't justify the escalation when it literally DOES
Actually, Midnight was never Momo's mentor.
She just gave her praise a couple of times throughout the story. That's it.
There really wasn't that great of a connection between the two.
Which is why this didn't create any new narrative for Momo's character to take part in. Instead, it looks like Horikoshi is setting up Mina Ashido as the one who is going to fight Midnight's killer.
Not even Mina is gonna get any screentime rn. Welcome to MHA, where the female characters suck.
Thank you for pointing out that whole "oh but that was the whole point so that makes this terrible plot development okay :D" fallacy. Just because you intended to shit on my plate the whole time does not mean I should tolerate you shitting on my plate. AFO taking over Shigaraki is imo the worst thing to happen to the story(tied with Horikoshi's desire to end the story in 1 year). I dont care if he planned to do that from the beginning, having your best antagonist and one of your very best characters be taken over by an objectively worse one and taking all his agency away in climactic moments that would have been incredibly narratively satisfying to see him go through while completely invalidating all of his growth is just a terrible thing to sit through.
1. Shigaraki or at least tenko is likely to come back to conciousness for dekus final battle
2. With how recent chapters are going and the editor switch , mha is likely going to last another year after.
Yes the last id say like 6 chapters of the war arc were meh but the rest of the war arc was astounding.
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 The last chapter state in the most explicit way how "Shigaraki" doesn't exist anymore, being absorbed by AFO he stop existing in the end of the first war, and now "Tenko" is treated as a different entity inside the mind of ShigaAFO
At this point no matter how many copium you inhale, but "Shigaraki" no longer exist and he won't come back. Is just a easy way to establish Deku as his savior in the end, which is gonna happen soon new editor or not
@@quiver5756 i still think tenko or whoever he is will die.
If after all this time tenko is still within shiggafo then itd possible for shigaraki to seperate himself from afo by hsving some vestige clash with afo
@@quiver5756 Tenko is the real Shigaraki. You can say he is a different entity but really he is a part of Shigaraki that hasn't been influenced or taken over in anyway.
@@theeggthatsurvivedhowtobas778 All For One isn't even a bad villain, he just isn't the main antagonist and originally had a different role.
Ever since the war arc, I felt that the story was rushing through plot lines. A real shame too since; as we've seen before, a rushed ending can ruin a series. I even thought to myself that Gran Torino should've died during the fight against Shigaraki, as it would've been a perfect send off for his character. Not to mention, more heroes that we were familiar with should've been killed off as well, further emphasizing the need for the next generation of student heroes to take their teachers places. Another issue I had was that Lemillion definitely came out of nowhere during the war. I understand Horikoshi wanted to wrap up his plot line and not leave people guessing but still "time and a place". I also felt that the Tartarus Escapees Arc should've lasted somewhat longer, with Midoriya falling deeper and darker. Becoming a straight vigilante, like Batman or Stain even. I even had this idea where Midoriya would follow some questionable advice from one of the Vestiges and go so far as to threaten to drop a criminal off the side of a building unless he talks. But the last issue I had was the fact that Endeavor and Hawks weren't berated by the public enough throughout their paths to redemption. I really expected Horikoshi would've had a majority of sidekicks at Endeavor's agency resign but only a handful of them (including Burnin) actually stayed. It also would've been interesting if someone had vandalized Hawk's agency and spray painted "MURDERER" on the wall, and he's left questioning whether or not he made the right call in killing Twice.
That's a cool idea of someone vandalized hawks agency (i didn't think of that). Also wouldn't be cool if we saw people who are against hero society (not the villians but people who are too afraid to speak up or are sillent but know well that the hero society is fuck up). Or how about government who manipulates hawks or try to cover every situation because politics. That's just my silly ideas that I came up with ☺️
@@Doris-gf4hb Sounds neat. We actually get a glimpse into that with Lady Nagant's backstory, but again, we quickly move past that.
@@animangafan4329 Thank you ☺️, I need to catch up to Lady Nagant backstory (cuz I didn't read it yet).
I also got really upset about how Shigaraki has not been himself for over a hundred chapters, and how Shigaraki didn't react to Twice's death. But another thing that upset me is that no one has even mention Mr. Compress, it's been almost a hundred chapters and we don't even know if he's even alive or not.
Am probably gonna agree with 90% of the criticisms and yet on its own it’s still one of my favorite arcs of the show, sucks the aftermath was so poorly handled though
If the manga didn't immediately rush to the finale after PLW, then I bet all of these problems would have been avoided. These characters needed more on screen time for the events to really sink in, but that time wasn't given to us.
One of the greatest examples of this which isn't in the war arc was Lady Nagant, she was seemingly poised to return, and I genuinely doubt she will ever return again. MHA could have easily killed off Lady Nagant and it would make a much more impactful effect on the story, similar to Gran Torino.
Well check out the newest chapter aye lmao
@@NaruteetheFodderPianist thanks for spoiling me but mha fell off anywayd
@@sebbyy2310 mha never fell off but it’s even better now lol
I'm anime-only and this is taking making me second guess watching the next seasons.
its still raw af and i would recommend watching season 6
Still pisses me off that they fucked over Shigeraki for All for One. Now don"t get me wrong I like All for One as a villain however he was not better than Shigeraki. Then making Deku Tenkos savior makes no sense. It was just there for plot
Shigaraki shouldve killed afo at tartarus tbh
@@Pompompatty that would be epic
@@PompompattyI couldn't have said it better myself
Ever since the PLW started reaching it’s ending, Every storyline introduced to us just felt rushed and had bad pacing, and in my opinion, they series being rushed crazily botched plot lines, leading the end of the plot lines to be underwhelming and ineffective, a lot of people blame the editor who is known for the cancellation and rushing of other series, but I believe that it is everyone’s responsibility, mainly the staff, The editor had a big role to play but I still feel like Horikoshi contributed to the downfall of the series, but people have to agree that the recent chapters, chptr.357-361 have definitely upgraded in it’s pacing, ever since horikoshi got a new editor, things started to look up, it’s very late for this change and would’ve been better is this editor was switched in the villain hunt arc but I have faith that the ending can be good,
Great vid asa, bye 👋.
10:00 - 10:50 This is why I'm seriously hoping for one last school briefs novel to explore this. I know it might sound a bit depressing that the only way we can hope to get these moments is through side content and though most of the previous school briefs have a more hopeful tone, I NEED to see these reactions and interactions the characters had after the war (If possible maybe even more Deku introspection while he was alone and once he got back) . I'm honestly praying it is somehow possible.
I know the "too little too late" thing is true, but at this point I'll take it if it means I get to see some of these moments, even if its in novel form.
On the scale of survivability, I feel like Midnight really should've been the one to come out alive all things considered, whereas the senior hero should've been more likely to die from a heart attack in the heat of the moment (least of all that damn injury).
I half agree with this completely, I just wish both of them had survived
@Kevin Lucero I can understand that sentiment. Though, for me personally, from a narrative perspective. The mentor characters should kinda just take less of an active role by now (I mean seriously, why is the retired hero coming back OUT of retirement? It'd be one thing if he came back just for the raid but he's been back even before then so like...why???)
@John Lambert Well this is the same world where Bakugou can survive some insane shit despite his power being to make explosions. I'm fairly certain everyone has some basic super human durability by our standards.
The idea of "the older generation refusing to let go of their hold on the newer generation" could work if they kept going with Shigaraki achieving independence and stepping away from AFO's shadow as the true antagonist of the series, showing that he has surpassed Deku as a character bound to the older generation, while Deku is saddled with the legacy of OFA and continues trying to force himself to become the next Symbol of Peace despite the strain it puts on him physically and mentally because he can't let go of the fact that he has inherited All Might's power and karmic burden as the one Hero meant to lead others into the future.
A future, while bright, that is still shackled to the past.
It could work by having Shigaraki be the one moving forward and leaving his mentor's shadow behind him while Deku still struggles beneath All Might's.
Tl;Dr
AFO taking over Shigaraki is a bad narrative twist and ruins what could have been an interesting thematic concept the story could have worked on more.
Ngl I didn’t like it when AFO took over Shigaraki, It was like “Oh He went through all this development just to be taken over by the earlier villain” bruh
The fact that AFO doesn't have a face just symbolizes how uninteresting and distasteful he is as a character and especially a villian.
midnight's death is similar to abraham's death in the walking dead where it was over shadowed by someone's death or didnt effect that much
I definitely agree that Gran Torino should’ve died.and I definitely agree that we should’ve got to see how class 1a dealt with the whole war. I still loved the war arc but we should’ve definitely gotten like some post war arc instead of jumping right into the final act. A whole post war arc focusing on the aftermath and how it effected everyone
Horikoshi initially planned for Endeavor to die during the PLF war, and this idea would have worked well if Shoto was the central character in the Todoroki subplot. Shoto could have taken charge of dealing with Touya, the "final villain," and the rest of the family could support him. However, it seems Shoto is no longer the central character in this subplot. He's not allowed to have a final fight with Touya until Touya confronts Endeavor. This shift is noticeable from the start of the series, where Shoto was the central figure in his family drama. In the Pro Hero arc, Endeavor becomes a central figure in the pro-hero world. When Touya's identity is confirmed, either Endeavor or Shoto had to stop being the central figure. This change makes Endeavor the central figure in the fight, even though the subplot started as Shoto's story. The survival of Endeavor forces Shoto into a supporting role, altering the trajectory of the narrative.
I never realized this, its kind of wack how endeavor ends up becoming a more important/active character than Todoroki and even Bakugo. I never realized it till you put it like this but those two have basically become side characters that I'm excited to hear speak when compared to Endeavor and Hawks.
I just realized something, they only got the inexperienced first year plus the big three to go to war, but where are the other more experienced 2nd and 3rd year students?!?!!?!
that guy with the green vest and the girl with the dumbass retractable limbs quirk were 3rd years and all they did was fail to evacuate a group of civilians and get negative diffed by muscular
Great video. I died when you called Midnight a nobody pedophile
i was spitting
@@AsarathaHSYT I disagree. She's not a nobody imo. Pedophile well not really either. Was she sadistic and r-rated. Yes. Did she actively sexually harass any students like a predator. No
She was just there for fan service though 🤣
he’s so right tho literally who gaf about her
And they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you. Why bother?
Thanks for reminding me that an hour in to spiderman is better then the years that have gone into mha
Bakugo: move aside, extras
Also bakugo: becomes an extra
😭😭😭
As he should
Ahh yeah this happens alot on shounen manga. It's probably because of the shounen jump either rushing or wanting more climax every week from the creator. And the popularity of the characters for sure
He should’ve not made it a shonen
Finally glad someone mentioned shigaraki hasn't been seen reaction to twice death,that is so weird
spoilers to chapter 427:
the plotline of Hawks killing Twice got even worse because now Hawks is the president of the Hero Public Safety Commission. So he was pretty much given a prize for killing him. So it's not even vanadlizing on Twice's grave. It's having a number 2 on it
god it is incredible how much hawks was fumbled as a character
Shigaraki forcing Redestro and his army to be loyal to him was very amazing because it even the playing field between the Villains and Heroes. Now the villains had the strength and numbers to go up against the hero society. But then immediately they get defeated and reduced back down to the size of a clubhouse. Like bro why even do that it just takes away the sense of danger and bleakness that was being set up. If everything is going alright for the heroes then any sense of danger and tension is also taken away because at the end of the day it will work itself out no problem.
Shigaraki never forced Redestro- Redestro willingly became loyal to him on his own accord and gave his army. Redestro choose to be loyal to him.
@@nikkonya1187 even that makes Shigaraki more badass because he earned the loyalty of someone who presumed himself to be above everyone else.