Whether Messi won the World Cup or didn’t there was never a debate for me, but now the icing on the cake for all. He was in the conversation for GOAT at age 23 and now at 35 he still is. Lionel Messi you are immense, breathtaking and a work of art. I thank god for allowing me to witness such greatness. Seeing you get what you always wanted will always bring a smile to my face. Thank you.
Was never a debate at all. If you know ball, if you know facts, if you know what matters in the game then you know Messi is the greatest of all time and there is no denying it whatsoever
Messi to me wasn’t near the goat in 2010 that’s just being a fanboy but you can say he was on his way to be the goat when he was 23 but now he definitely cemented himself as the goat no debate
@@yaseh9162 yeah cause they were idiots lol at 23 years he was nowhere near that convo now he is he was 23 in 2010 all he had was 2 ballon D’or and 2 champions league but nothing to show with Argentina those were great accomplishments even for his age but he had done nothing to be called the goat way too early
Apart from Lionel Messi, this Argentina squad have absolutely no class about them at all. Seeing pricks like Emiliano Martinez win the biggest trophy in sport, ain’t great.
@@samuelkoomson6017 why? because he would have won less titles? There was no need for him to win this cup to make him the greatest, he already was. I would've liked it if France won it, football is emotion after all and that would've caused some drama I would have loved to witness.
@@fromahappy5536 But would that really matter? Those guys have everything their hearts desire. If people would've blamed Messi for their loss then he shouldn't take them seriously because obviously they don't get that football is a team sport
To me this world cup wasn't needed for Messi to be the GOAT He was in the debate at 23 now at 35 I just wanted him to win and have the happiness He deserves for the years He has made us so thrilled by the sport he deserves it absolute GOAT
i was 22 when messi was in his prime. i am lucky to have witness the Greatest player to ever touch the ball live on tv. i can one day tell my grandchildren if im alive how good messi was. i also doubt we will ever see anyone better.
He took Growth hormones as a child. It boosts bones muscles and tendons for life. The debate goes on. Medias don't mention it because he brings them audience.
He did it, he stood up when they needed him the most. He carried it home. The man wrote history he became a legend. The greatest of all time. He deserved this so much.
Real Madrid fan of 24 years here. The first time I watched him in a classico in 2007, I knew he was going to be the G.O.A.T. I thank Messi for giving us joy and 5 champions league titles. Messi challenged and improved Madrid to new heights even when he was our greatest rival.
@@shakenblake4533 Bro, I am talking about Madrid's titles in the last 10 years. We used to get knocked out in the round of 16 often. But then Messi happened, Madrid suffered and bled at the hands of the G.O.A.T so much that it transformed into a M.O.N.S.T.E.R that never dies and comes back every time it is killed.
He should be goalie with his ability to take a dive. French goalie was awful though. I pity tottenham having Arry Kane as striker and that French goalie as their number one.
The fact that at the age of almost 36having only 45% capability of his peak,he showed a player of the tournament performance is unheard of!! LEO MESSI The Undisputed GOAT🐐✨
@@siuuuuuuuu9985 I said “Almost 36” .Are you dum*?! Of course you are,All Ronald fans are . I don’t even want to talk to the fans of “Unemployed Lord Tap in Merchant fangirls” .You guys are beneath us💁♂️ 😆😆😆
It is his peak. Same like Zidane. He is not stamina based player. He is technique based player. Technique players like Zidane, Del Piero, Totti, Pirlo, dont rely on stamina like winger. While Ronaldo is originally winger but managers then put him as physical striker. He is gone as his age get the better of him since he is stamina base player.
@@CJVP99 How can it be greatest era when there are only 2 players dominating? There was a time where R9, ronaldinho, zidane, were all playing at the same time
@Rican_9 Dude idk man, you can't make these claims anymore if you don't have a Worlc Cup under your name. I truly do hate to say this, Messi has officially claimed his title. It ended a debate.
Messi just became Immortal in the history of football. From now on people will not only say "Pele and Maradona." They'll say "Pele, Maradona and Messi." Messi the GOAT. 👑⚽
@@rajdeepbanipal2650 THIS is why DUMB fans will always be dumb. A PLAYER with 10 WORLD CUPS isnt better then MESSI. WORLD cups dont mean a thing. YOU DONT CHOOSE the country you are born. PELE wasnt even the best BRAZILIAN player on 2 of those World cups.
Even Hollywood cannot/couldn't script this for a movie. By far, the best and most surreal football game ever played...! Qatar also deserves a praise. This is a jewel in their world cup crown!!
In ANY sport. Messi was the most scrutinized, most criticized player during their journey. He played without help (a.Robin to his Batman metaphor), played with different coaches, different teammates, played against the best opposition in their prime, and defeated a defending champion in the finals to win it all.
Naming someone the GOAT doesn’t mean you disrespect every player that come before him… Many great players paved the way for this generation for sure, but there is no doubt that this generation of players have taken the game to the next level. And given everything Messi has achieved, he deserved the title 🎉 🐐👑
Except people seem to forget that he won a LOT of titles while surrounded by the best team in the world at that time who were almost untouchable. That wasn't the case with Diego, at all.
Wel naming him goat he becomes a baphomet. He's great tho. People now making fun of Cristiano as if he never existed. I cant believe the level of disrespect these days. Fans today are nothing but protesters, virtue signallers an meme adicts
@@sasinapiyummal5767sure you can Cristiano player of the century, but people have eyes 😂, they can see who is better. As for puskas, the specially abled guy won it this time. Should we declare him goat😂. Seriously how big of idiot can you be?
What did it settle in team game where lot of players contributed like Martinez de Maria in fact mbappe is also goat in making scored hatrick played single handedly
All these modern day footballers are playing in an era when the game is very soft. Lots of faking you can hardly touch some of these players. They are over protected by referees especially Messi you can hardly touch him. Pele and other great played with no yellow card and their was not all that faking.
Messi was involved in all of their 3 Goals.Great Performance by the Greatest Footballer Ever.Messi Must get his 8th Ballon D’Or Leo Messi The Undisputed GOAT🐐✨
Mbappe scored a hat trick If PSG wins the CL. Am betting Mbappe will be very very important to that run. But you will still give it to Messi, why exactly?
As a die hard CR7 fan, I congratulate Messi for his efforts. He has ended the goat debate, however, Messi and CR7 are both goats in their own rights. This was a big icing on the cake for Messi in particular.
So many siilarities between the final and the quarter final against Netherlands, the 2 nil up, the equalizing, the penalties. This one was ecstatic, breathtaking and a befitting final. In the end, the best team won the world cup.
And then add the Brazil - Croatia emotions. Going up in extra time, then conceding a goal minutes before. Enough emotion for 2-3 games. Truly the best game ever.
Being a Ronaldo fan, I have to humbly submit to the fact that the GOAT title goes to Messi. It hurts to admit that but truth can be hurtful at times. On an ending note, I will say that Mbappe had a spectacular game today and will hopefully have a bright future.
In all my years of football ( im 50 years of age ) ...i have NEVER seen a world cup final match so dramatic as this one between France & Argentina....Both of these 2 teams gave absolutely everything on the pitch ( escpecially within the last 20 minutes) ...but in the end , destiny has its own pre- written completed script ...And according to that script , Argentina was supposed to be the final winners ...Congratulations to Argentina ....and France ...You made it worth our watch ...wow !!!!!! Messi is and was the best footballer to me , looooooong before this world cup trophy ..
Mbappe appreciation post : This guy at 23 single handedly kept France in the game in the full 120 mins with a hattrick of his own. He has already won a WC and he'll probably have a couple more before he retires 👑👑👑
Only one last shot he have beacuse when next world cup 2026 he is almost 28 after this age he lost his pace at least 30 - 40 % when he losses his pace he is going to trash...
The save Martinez did in the last minute of the game was similar as the one of Iker Casillas did in World Cup final 2010 against Robben. Save of the tournament
Messi has always been the GOAT . This was just like a confirmation not a proof. Also this prevents any irrelevant arguments cuz now he has won it allll!
@@jessejj86 Yes but if you look at stats impact trophies, competition(big one Messi has waaay more competition than Pele or Maradona), among other things there is a clear edge to Messi and even Ronaldo.
@@Rnbsoccerstar7 lol. Like he wasn't a part of that team? You want the stats outside of barca well he has won a copa America and the world cup in the last 2 years.
Argentina’s 2nd goal was spectacular. Their counter attack was technical and smooth. I felt like I was part of that counter attack 😂 I was running with the ball even though I was standing lol
It's incredible to think that after his four final losses for Argentina, he's now been part of a side that has won three finals in a row since 2020. I really thought he was just cursed with bad luck at international level before Argentina won the Copa America in Brazil. As someone who's watched him since his debut for Barca, it's so pleasing to see him finish his career with those achievements, especially a world cup. To do that between the age of 33-35 just makes his legacy even more incredible.
Aside from being the most gifted player ever seen, Messi is also a true team man, willing to adapt to the role required of him. If somebody else is better placed to get the goals and glory, he'll gladly provide for them. Meanwhile, there's Ronaldo more concerned with scamming group stage goals he never even touches, his hangers on raging that a 37 year-old isn't having everything built around him anymore.
Wow that final really took years off my life. The up and down of emotions, and I'm usually pretty calm but by the end of 120th minute I was having horrible Higuain flashbacks and was ready to go bite into Lautaro, but DIBU!!! came through in the end
100% with you on all..he was great in copa and finalissama but wow rough wc that shot should have been one touch in net he took time defender recovered. then header .....really gave away how hews struggling he heded it 10 yards wide but he was great in others thank god for julian and enzo and mccalister was phenomenal too I thought lo celso loss was going to cause issues we saw in Saudi match where asking messi to create and finish like 2014 where he can do either and did just not both at same time. Luckily julian activity, same with enzo and mccalister's possession was most pleasant surpriseand allowed messi to drift and stay dangerous in final third. De paul and paredes warrior efforts molina, romero were great, otamendi always has moments but overall solid same with acuna. Incredible:) Euro, finalissima, WC this team has the spine of every champion squad coach ,captain ,chemistry, and keeper!! martinez was sensational!!! Amazing I felt equal parts elated , sick then elated/exhausted :) congrats!
@@ryanphelan6861 I fully agree. It really was a rollercoaster of emotions, it's why I was so pissed at Lautaro, he really could have ended things. He even missed from that Acuna pass, and did not make his positioning and movement when Messi played him 1v1, and he even missed that one too. He came on as a sub and got 4 great, great chances. I was sad for Alvarez because he worked really hard as always in that final but didn't get a chance, only for Martinez to waste so many. But yeah, the team was fantastic in the effort they put throughout the tournament. Yeah, it's like 3 straight titles in 2 years to crown Messi's International career.
@@Tunde....Ballack crazy stat nobody has mentioned from juniors for Argentina to , Olympics, Copa, finalissima, world, cup, for club trebles with Barca FIFA club world cup, la Liga, Copa del try, champions, even lique 1 last year, he's won every tournament he's ever competed in eventually...that's insane. Not taking into account 7ballon d'or, golden boots, assists, freekicks only behind juninho from brazil. He's fairy tale talent scouted at 12 by la masia in Spain while in Argentina. Like artist or Mozart. Lol I'm a fan 😉 and agreed with all you mentioned it was like 2014 all over ....that pass from messi he has to finish that one time as it roles across he took a touch to settle it for no reason it was open goal and like you said defender recovered. Brutal and that header but they won ☺️👍🍾
@@ryanphelan6861 I know, it's crazy. The man has completed Football, and he didn't just win them, he destroyed them. Let's just take international level for example, where he was supposed to be bad before this world cup. *_U-20 World Cup_* _Winner_ _Golden boot_ _MVP_ *_Olympics_* _Winner_ _Joint MVP_ *_Copa America_* _Winner (2021)_ _MVP (2015, 2021)_ _Golden Boot_ _Top Assist(2021)_ *_Finalissima_* _Winner_ _MVP_ *_World Cup_* _WINNER_ _Top Assist_ _Silver Boot_ _Golden Ball (2014, 2022)_ That is in the actual competition, but if we talk international records *_Player with the most knockout assists in the world cup_* *_Player with the most (Opta) goal contribution in the world cup_* *_Only player to win 2 world cup MVPs_* *_Player with most goals contribution in International competition_* *_Player with the most goal contribution in knockouts of International competition_* -*Player with the most International tournament MVPs*_
Ronaldo is in pains right now and he's is feeling real depression right now concerning the issues he has with Man united combined with the fact that they were knocked out of the WC..He now sees that Portugal doesn't depend on him again.Messi has shown that he's the best in the world.apart from scoring goals Messi is a playmaker,his presence makes you wanna watch..infact he's the G.O.A.T
Absolutely the best World Cup final in history. Both teams completely deserved this, playing to win to the last available second! Both managers deserve praise for the courage of their game plans. Both teams played *so* well 😁 France came back *twice* in a World Cup final ffs. Just astounding. I called Argentina to win at the beginning of the tournament but my heart wanted France. Injuries to 5 major players before it even started... injuries from the 1st minutes of the tournament... virus running through the squad in the days right before the final... *and still they did not let us down!* Congratulations Argentina!
I started watching soccer in 2008 because of Ronaldo. I followed his career and rivalry with Messi and always loved the goat debate. After Messi's World Cup victory, it's time to concede & acknowledge Messi as the goat.
The Mozart of our game for eternity.All the cynics,crtitics & haters keep throwing ur bricks at him! He take them and build another monument to the genius with them.Messi's world where the insane & impossible becomes the expected 🇦🇷🐐
Actually, I never understand why the medias ve created that goat conversation between Messi vs CR7 Cuz anyone who understands football will say that Messi is undoubtedly the best (not only Cristiano) but the best of all time!!! I'm sure, that we'll never see anything like Messi again! Once in a lifetime! The maestro, a genius, a magician, an alien!!!! The GOAT F-O-R-E-V-E-R 🐐👽🏆🇦🇷
For me, it’s never been a debate between Messi and Ronaldo. Ronaldo fans lay out STATs to show how great he is but Meesi fans lay out actual PERFORMANCES to show how great he is. That’s the difference between the two, period. Messi is the GOAT.
Or the difference is the weakest group for messi and the better teammates? Just compare and watch the games. Although 2 trophies out of 5 finals is very bad for someone considered the ultimate GOAT above the rest
@@Bozhidar256 The world hurt him bro, he dont have evidence left to proof that Messi isnt the goat because he just won the world cup, which Ronaldo never have.
This game was predestined, this was meant to be, nothing could hinder him from winning tonight. All by the grace of God. Incredible game and what a way for Messi to cement his goat status. Truly the greatest I’ve seen. Wonderful footballer. Congratulations Argentina, Congratulations Messi. Side note, Mbappe, you are incredible, I doubted you before this game and thought that the comparisons you were getting to some of the greats of the game was too much, but tonight, you’ve shown that you truly are a great. I salute you
You mean all by the grace of FIFA right? The guy scored at least one PK every game since the quarter finals. Di Maria ran and came to fall in the French box there it is PK given. The same stuff happened against Croatia, Netherlands and for all the Messi fan that's it he is the GOAT. 😆😆.
if you doubted Mbappé it's really that you don't follow this sport enough, it's grotesque, have you seen all his goals in the last 3 years in UCL ???? 1 month ago in Turin ??? How can we doubt this extra terrestrial apart from the haters I don't understand
@@KingOfAssyria_IIVI it's absolutely not the same profile, you don't know anything it's scary 😂 it's like comparing Messi and Ibrahimovic at the time !!!!!! There you are not comparing a winger with a 2m tall BU who scores 80% of his goals like Inzaghi and the rest of the Ibrahimovic style The 2 have nothing to do! Mbappé is in creation, dribbling, speed, crosses, we can't do more complete at the new generation level, and he is currently top scorer in all competitions, World Cup, Champions League, Ligue 1, 2nd best passer history at the same age after Pelé (116) So yes Haaland is a real 9, a pure 9, the address in finish is his caracteristic principal, he is also very fast but the first video link that I put , never Haaland will do that in his career, impossible and it's normal
Never saw Pele Play. But I have see most of the Greats of this era. Its Messi for me. He did things with a ball nobody has ever done. He was complete. A goal scorer, a play maker with a superior football IQ. What makes this a non debate as well look at what he continues to do at 35.
@Jean-Patrice Paluku What made Messi better than these two: HARD WORK and CONSISTENCY!! Look at their performance in their 30's and Messi in his 30's. not even close!!!
Ale with an excellent point, Cristiano really isn't anywhere close to Messi (or Maradona, Pele type GOAT tier players) - his biggest achievement in his career was even being compared to Messi at all.
This is one of those moments that u will never be able to forget in u r lifetime. Messi is truly the goat. He has won everything out there that is football. A massive weight has been lifted off his shoulder. He is the best that I have seen in my lifetime. World Champion finally.
What separates Messi and Ronaldo is personality. It's easier to love Messi. He's less ego. Less self obsessed. More focused on how he can adapt his game to benefit the team. But may I add, they probably needed one another. To push each other to greater heights
Lol less ego Messi is egotistical narcissist he came out wearing a KING ROBE on the platform. He doesn't do it in the open often like Ronaldo but you can see he's full of himself
Things maybe could've been different if Ronaldo was French, Brazilian, German, Italian or Spanish maybe Ronaldo would win World cup Portugal is not that great
Nah. Messi is the greatest of all time. It’s Messi, then Pele and Maradona. This guy is just a hater and can’t admit that Messi is the best. He’s been dominating the game for more than a decade.
I think it has to do with the fact that people (especially Messi fans) were trying to mock Cr.Ronaldo for scoring penalties, apparently you have to miss your penalties to prove to these kids nowadays that you are a "GOAT".
Best football final match ever. Certainly Best WC final ever. Big up to Messi and Mbappe, and as well as other players of both teams. So happy for Messi to have capped off his amazing career in such dramatic style. But honorable mention to Kylian Mbappe once again. What a courageous young man. 3 pressure penalties in a final and he put all 3 away as kool calm and collected . Wow 😲. The bravery !!. And he stepped up to take that 1st penalty in the shoot out 🫡 . Big up Messi also stepping up to take the 1st for his country too. 2 great players.
Not to mention, Mbpappe already won the WC and beat Arg in 2018. Today, he made France come back and stay in the game out of nowhere. Absolutely, insane player.
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You cannot compare Messi and Christiano because one is a midfielder and other is a striker. The way they contribute to the team, is completely different.
Messi is a midfielder yet is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo statistically 💀 Ronaldo isnt bad, messi is just too good. Messi is a positionless anomaly that can do everything on the pitch
I am united fan and been a Ronaldo fan since I followed united in 2007. But when I watched Messi especially in 2010 I knew he was the greatest player to ever walk the earth. There is no player like him and there never will be. But there will be more players like Ronaldo.
Never been any doubt Messi not just for his goals for his incredible passing range, link up play and over 370 assists. He is a magician ,has the X factor that others don't.
I agree 100% with Mark Ogden. Every generation has its outstanding player and for the last 15 years Messi was the best. But you can’t compare him with other generations, because Football has change a lot. In Pelés time yellow cards didn’t exist, so he got kicked a lot. Just enjoy the fact that we had the chance to see Messi in our lifetime.
As a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s there were football greats but 2 names stood out amongst the Cruyffs, Beckenbauers, Eusebios of the footballing world and that was Pele and Maradona. Since then I think it's fair to put Zidane and R9 Ronaldo in that group and today Messi is up there with them. What a privilege to witness this man's career. 👏
I've always been a CR7 fan.. but I'm going to be honest.. with Messi winning the world cup it just feels like the Convo is over.. it just feels like everything that Ronaldo has done and accomplished is insignificant.. there's no way he can stand next to Messi now.. Messi has finally won the world cup
FIFA is the most corrupt and racist sporting organization in the world that way all white Argentina team win world ,FIFA wanted Messi to win world cup to prove he is greater than the KING Pele . Pele had to overcome the racism he faced playing against these racist Europeans in his day. Woo to FIFA.
Messi doing the deal right from the under 17 world cup, 2005,to the Olympics ,2008,to the Copa America, 2021 and now the Fifa world cup,2022 for Argentina. Let's not forget he also loss in three finals(two Copa America and one world cup final). He's such an amazing player.
DiMaria scored in the Olympic Final, Finalissimo, scored the 0-1 goal against Brazil in Copa America Final which decided it for Argentina and created the first two goals of this World Cup Final. And yet nobody rarely talks about this absolute HUGE player. Amazing.
It could be Mbappe or there could be a kid somewhere, kicking a ball in a poor part of the world completely unaware of their talent. The most beautiful thing about football is that we will always have the heroes of the past, the heroes of today and the heroes of tomorrow. It truly is the Beautiful Game
I saw Pele with the Cosmos at Yankee stadium. For his age he was still amazing. He could jump so high and used his leverage, skill, low center of gravity to be strong a no 9 (7). Maradona was constantly kicked but was so fast, skillful and amazing. After Owen and Shearer plus other Continental stars were getting hurt due to kicking brutally the owners/executives decided to change the game. Leo is the best of his time but I still have him equal with Pele and Maradona. I did see Messi play in Giants stadium for the Final of Copa Centanario and I saw him train with MSN…so amazing and Neymar was on 🔥 in that session. The big 3 is Messi Pele Maradona
I'm literally NEVER engaging in this GOAT debate ever again. I've been a long time Ronaldo fan but i guess it's time to accept reality. What messi did at this tournament at 35 is just unbelievable.
There's a difference though. CR7 put Portugal on the map with lesser talent. Messi didn't do that. Argentina will always be a force in football. Portugal, probably not. In fact, him winning or not winning the WC was never about Messi vs CR7. It was about Maradona vs Messi. It always was. CR7 greatness in Portugal was never in doubt. For Messi, it was with Argentina.
Portugal already achieved their World cup. They won the EC. Nobody expected this. Actually Portugal squad value is over Argentinas by many 100 millions, at least in this world cup ...
Greatest game I’ve watched in any sport. The way Mbappe, Coman and Camavinga brought back France was admirable. But Messi is something else.
Cant believe dembele was playing over coman. Dembele was legit dogshit most games. Coman cameo was better than dembeles entire tournament combined
Kolo Muani’s miss and decision not to pass to Mbappé in the last minute of the game, will haunt him.
@@zephune9506 dembale was sick with flu and giroud 5 others shouldn’t have started
@@zephune9506 Dembele was pretty darn great but Di Maria took his game to a whole new level
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
The save by Martinez (with his legs) few seconds before the final whistle was just incredible.
saved the game fr I flew off my couch😂
The Argentina hit back with a counter attack and nearly scored, such a great game of football
Yeah, crazy save he did, only possible by world class keepers like him.
Dude is world class gk but has absolutely no class in winning
He took his time in consoling mbappe so he is still class
Whether Messi won the World Cup or didn’t there was never a debate for me, but now the icing on the cake for all.
He was in the conversation for GOAT at age 23 and now at 35 he still is. Lionel Messi you are immense, breathtaking and a work of art. I thank god for allowing me to witness such greatness.
Seeing you get what you always wanted will always bring a smile to my face.
Thank you.
Was never a debate at all. If you know ball, if you know facts, if you know what matters in the game then you know Messi is the greatest of all time and there is no denying it whatsoever
Messi to me wasn’t near the goat in 2010 that’s just being a fanboy but you can say he was on his way to be the goat when he was 23 but now he definitely cemented himself as the goat no debate
@@whatnatevlogs2178 Pathetic fanboyism. Of course there is a debate. Only imbeciles say otherwise.
@@oscargee1173 There were definitely people calling Mess arguably the best player ever at around that time.
@@yaseh9162 yeah cause they were idiots lol at 23 years he was nowhere near that convo now he is he was 23 in 2010 all he had was 2 ballon D’or and 2 champions league but nothing to show with Argentina those were great accomplishments even for his age but he had done nothing to be called the goat way too early
Unreal game. Messi is 35 and still contributed at that level throughout the tournament. He has to be the GOAT.
Modric is older bud.
@@kalestanforde and he didn't won, so?
@@kalestanforde Modric had like 10% of the impact that Messi had.
wani lolol facts
He is the goat ❤❤💪💪
Thank You Messi for bringing so much joy to the football lovers he was and still is the GOAT
Apart from Lionel Messi, this Argentina squad have absolutely no class about them at all. Seeing pricks like Emiliano Martinez win the biggest trophy in sport, ain’t great.
even without the world cup messis better
No its ronaldo
@@ThrE3-GeSgo cry he not even number 2 of all time
@@juandiegocampostapia1869 like messi is number 1 😹
I feel incredibly fortunate to have seen Messi and Ronaldo play. Thanks Messi for existing and today winning this cup, my mental health was onn stake.
Hahahahaaa my brother, not only you. Many of us could have walked in sorrow for years
@@samuelkoomson6017 why? because he would have won less titles? There was no need for him to win this cup to make him the greatest, he already was. I would've liked it if France won it, football is emotion after all and that would've caused some drama I would have loved to witness.
Me too
@@jkj10 France won in 2018. The criticism Messi will have received if they lost will have been worst that what Ronaldo is receiving now
@@fromahappy5536 But would that really matter? Those guys have everything their hearts desire. If people would've blamed Messi for their loss then he shouldn't take them seriously because obviously they don't get that football is a team sport
To me this world cup wasn't needed for Messi to be the GOAT He was in the debate at 23 now at 35 I just wanted him to win and have the happiness He deserves for the years He has made us so thrilled by the sport he deserves it absolute GOAT
i was 22 when messi was in his prime. i am lucky to have witness the Greatest player to ever touch the ball live on tv. i can one day tell my grandchildren if im alive how good messi was. i also doubt we will ever see anyone better.
@Derek Gamer let mpabbe Frist score an 800 goals then we will talk
He took Growth hormones as a child. It boosts bones muscles and tendons for life. The debate goes on. Medias don't mention it because he brings them audience.
Facts
@Derek Gamer 7 golden ball is a joke to you, just shut up
He did it, he stood up when they needed him the most. He carried it home. The man wrote history he became a legend. The greatest of all time. He deserved this so much.
Stood up? Lmao. Yeah Thanks to refers who carried your said goat.
@San المحنك Lmao France got 2 penalties and didn't win. Messi was involved in all 3 goals, scored 2. So yeah he stood up.
@@ArchangelTyrael yup the first penalties each got were similar
@@San-jx1zd cryyyyyyyyyy🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣
@@San-jx1zd keep crying idiot hahahha
Real Madrid fan of 24 years here. The first time I watched him in a classico in 2007, I knew he was going to be the G.O.A.T. I thank Messi for giving us joy and 5 champions league titles. Messi challenged and improved Madrid to new heights even when he was our greatest rival.
On God bro those 2011-2017 days of Barca and Madrid going at it for a treble we're insane. El Classicos we're next level greatness
What a unique perspective and truly spot on! Big respect. I’m a Messi fan!
Messi has 4 champions league titles not 5
@@shakenblake4533 Bro, I am talking about Madrid's titles in the last 10 years. We used to get knocked out in the round of 16 often. But then Messi happened, Madrid suffered and bled at the hands of the G.O.A.T so much that it transformed into a M.O.N.S.T.E.R that never dies and comes back every time it is killed.
@@KAURAVAN what are you talking about. You’re giving Messi credit for Ronaldo’s achievements
Di Maria is under rated. his ability is amazing on the ball.
Agreed.Di Maria and Messi duo is deadly
yes Di Maria is the GOAT
Yup,but Messi is the goat,not Ronaldo,right?!😉😜
@@LordZorak11 gotcha😜👍🤣🤭
He should be goalie with his ability to take a dive.
French goalie was awful though.
I pity tottenham having Arry Kane as striker and that French goalie as their number one.
The fact that at the age of almost 36having only 45% capability of his peak,he showed a player of the tournament performance is unheard of!!
LEO MESSI The Undisputed GOAT🐐✨
35
@@siuuuuuuuu9985 I said “Almost 36” .Are you dum*?! Of course you are,All Ronald fans are .
I don’t even want to talk to the fans of “Unemployed Lord Tap in Merchant fangirls” .You guys are beneath us💁♂️ 😆😆😆
still 7 months away from birthdate
It is his peak. Same like Zidane. He is not stamina based player. He is technique based player. Technique players like Zidane, Del Piero, Totti, Pirlo, dont rely on stamina like winger. While Ronaldo is originally winger but managers then put him as physical striker. He is gone as his age get the better of him since he is stamina base player.
@@bangrojainot his peak anymore dude that was 3-4 years ago
Ale's first take was so relatable. You grow up witnessing greatness, but then living to see someone surpass past greatness, and openly appreciate it.
Imagine witnessing this in our lifetime . The greatest era of football and the greatest players of all time
Vs portugal was my wet dream
Were lucky to have witnessed it..
What greatest players? Both teams were mediocre, messi was just top good for even his own team.
But last generation had more great players tbh
Greatest era? Please explain
@@CJVP99 How can it be greatest era when there are only 2 players dominating?
There was a time where R9, ronaldinho, zidane, were all playing at the same time
France had artillery and ammunitions to spare
But argentina had a freaking nuclear missile ❤️
They were pretty even on weapons. It came down to who had a better anti-missile defense (The Goalkeeper).
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
@@rican_921 🤣cry more crynaldo
@Rican_9 Dude idk man, you can't make these claims anymore if you don't have a Worlc Cup under your name. I truly do hate to say this, Messi has officially claimed his title. It ended a debate.
@@bee48667 Pele has 3.. R9 has 2.. say again!!!
Messi just became Immortal in the history of football. From now on people will not only say "Pele and Maradona." They'll say "Pele, Maradona and Messi." Messi the GOAT. 👑⚽
Yeah
By far PELE is the greatest that ever played the game winner of 3 World cups,Messi has cemented his status as the best of his generation,👍
PELE is not on the GOAT conversation..its like saying OSCAR SCHMIDT is better then WILT or JORDAN.
@@rajdeepbanipal2650 OMG PELE played in USA and in amateur BRAZILIAN LEAGUE.
@@rajdeepbanipal2650 THIS is why DUMB fans will always be dumb.
A PLAYER with 10 WORLD CUPS isnt better then MESSI.
WORLD cups dont mean a thing.
YOU DONT CHOOSE the country you are born.
PELE wasnt even the best BRAZILIAN player on 2 of those World cups.
Messi, the absolute GOAT 🐐
Pele.
@@StamfordBridge Makes it even more depressing you said that considering you’re a Chelsea fan. Two facts. Blue is the colour, and Messi is the GOAT
Alongside Mara and R9. Whonhas done the world greatness with 4 clubs. Countless golden boots and 2 world cups... oh all before 35 as well
@@jessejj86 ur so mad Messi won he’s the goat
@@elite_1ne115 Eh, I’ll make it easier for you: I’m older and I’m sentimental.
Almost heart attack today holy shot best match of all years
Yea
Same here
Even Hollywood cannot/couldn't script this for a movie. By far, the best and most surreal football game ever played...!
Qatar also deserves a praise. This is a jewel in their world cup crown!!
Yep, that whole thing looked scripted
Just like your Ronaldo's tears ? Was this also Scripted, average penaldo Fan
@@heppolo dont waste those tears,use it as lube
@@siddheshborge2993 penaldo fans are all in trauma😂😂😂
@@siddheshborge2993 how u know hes a ronaldo fan?
Obviously,this final is one of the best final ever seen, what a beautiful game 🤗🤗, congratulations to Messi and his team mates 🙏🇦🇷🇦🇷
Just like the final in 1986 Argentina vs Germany, you’ll never know which team is going to win until the long whistle blow. A great final!
Yea cause it was rigged
@@Jdjsndndndndndnfn your mom was rigged
@@Jdjsndndndndndnfn either you are a fool or just making things up to stroke ur ego for unknown reasons
😂😂😂😂right talking about rigged
This is literally the greatest story of any player in the history of football
come on lol
COME ON lol
diego story is much more impressive than this..
pele story much more too
zidane story also more impressive
come on lolz
@@michelleper5065 shut up
@@TheRivalKillersdont be a zombie kid.... truth is truth.. learn to deal with it
@@michelleper5065you drunk lol
In ANY sport. Messi was the most scrutinized, most criticized player during their journey.
He played without help (a.Robin to his Batman metaphor), played with different coaches, different teammates, played against the best opposition in their prime, and defeated a defending champion in the finals to win it all.
Naming someone the GOAT doesn’t mean you disrespect every player that come before him… Many great players paved the way for this generation for sure, but there is no doubt that this generation of players have taken the game to the next level. And given everything Messi has achieved, he deserved the title 🎉 🐐👑
underrated comment. ppl are just being salty, and u right. calling Messi GOAT doesnt make the other greats bad.
Messi is the 🐐. They must deal with it
Except people seem to forget that he won a LOT of titles while surrounded by the best team in the world at that time who were almost untouchable. That wasn't the case with Diego, at all.
Wel naming him goat he becomes a baphomet. He's great tho.
People now making fun of Cristiano as if he never existed. I cant believe the level of disrespect these days.
Fans today are nothing but protesters, virtue signallers an meme adicts
@@seetsamolapo5600 If I say Lev Yashin is "greater" than Messi, how will you *PROVE* me wrong? 🙄
Messi scored all 5 penalties he got in World cup Knockout stage . 🐐 He stepped up big times
nope he missed against poland 😂😂
@@JavierRodriguez-ch7io did you read ''knockout stage'' bro?
I remember when Messi was clowned on for messing penalties in the WC especially in 2014. Now “Pessi” does not sound too terrible anymore isnt it?
And to think before the world cup penalties was one of the weaker sides of his game, he truly stepped up on the biggest stage
4 penalty but for you small mind peoples can even say 10 penalties
There is absolutely no more doubt! This man is the greatest “human” to ever touch a football. 💙🇦🇷
🐐🐐🇦🇷🇦🇷👍👍👀👀
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
Mm no that's still your opinion have more respect
@@rican_921 🤭🤭🤭! Cry more!!!
Are there representatives of other species who’ve been better at football than Messi?
He has won every trophy he has competed for. GREATNESS of the GOAT!!!!
Before the world cup he was the GOAT, after world cup win he is the god of football
Player of the Century? Puskas Award?
@@sasinapiyummal5767sure you can Cristiano player of the century, but people have eyes 😂, they can see who is better. As for puskas, the specially abled guy won it this time. Should we declare him goat😂. Seriously how big of idiot can you be?
@@sasinapiyummal5767 you don't compete for them, they are awarded
Lionel Messi the most humble person in football has achieved his ultimate goal......WELL DONE
What a game. The greatest final I’ve watched. I love Ronaldo, but this night has settled it for me, once and for all.
What did it settle in team game where lot of players contributed like Martinez de Maria in fact mbappe is also goat in making scored hatrick played single handedly
@@rajsub3884 nobody wins singlehandedly. Stop this bs narrative. Mbappe didn't do it by himself either.
@@rajsub3884 Cry more...
@@Ben2bwild maradonna did
@@BlackBeltNob no he didn't lol. This isn't tennis or golf
Every team member from Emi Martinez to Otamendi to MacAlister to Di Maria to Alvarez to Messi came through like a warrior.
Please not OTamendi
Otamendi was great this tournament even though he was the one who conceded the first penalty in the final.
All these modern day footballers are playing in an era when the game is very soft. Lots of faking you can hardly touch some of these players. They are over protected by referees especially Messi you can hardly touch him. Pele and other great played with no yellow card and their was not all that faking.
@@courtneywoolford7780 how many entires matches of Pele have you seen?
Messi was involved in all of their 3 Goals.Great Performance by the Greatest Footballer Ever.Messi Must get his 8th Ballon D’Or
Leo Messi The Undisputed GOAT🐐✨
Yup if he performs in champions League and psg too
@@romanempire7240 I don’t even talk to the fans of Lord Tap in Merchant fangirls .You guys are beneath us💁♂️ 😆😆😆
2 best ever Pele has 3 World Cups but he is bigger then Maradona
Mbappe scored a hat trick
If PSG wins the CL. Am betting Mbappe will be very very important to that run.
But you will still give it to Messi, why exactly?
@@romanempire7240 Cry cry, your tears are amazing. It makes my day.
This might be the worst year of Ronaldo's life
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
@@rican_921 this better not be the new things Messi haters say
@@rican_921 the more you guys say those things the more joke you become. go cry🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@rican_921 stupid Penaldo supporter
@@Anipaper_ they coming up with new words😂😂
As a die hard CR7 fan, I congratulate Messi for his efforts. He has ended the goat debate, however, Messi and CR7 are both goats in their own rights. This was a big icing on the cake for Messi in particular.
Two goats 🐐🐐?!🤔.is this the cattle market?!🤭🤣Messi is👑🐐
@@cko9672 Pele eats them for breakfast.
@@TheCOWBOYRANCHER in his dreams when he is drunk
@@TheCOWBOYRANCHERin his dreams
So many siilarities between the final and the quarter final against Netherlands, the 2 nil up, the equalizing, the penalties. This one was ecstatic, breathtaking and a befitting final. In the end, the best team won the world cup.
.....the best team won the WC. Wise statement.
And then add the Brazil - Croatia emotions. Going up in extra time, then conceding a goal minutes before. Enough emotion for 2-3 games. Truly the best game ever.
Thought Arg vs Ned was the Best Game of the Tournament.
Final just blows it out of the water.
It is one of the Best Games ever.
@@daredevil6145 it ended with penalties, not the perfect final for me.
Being a Ronaldo fan, I have to humbly submit to the fact that the GOAT title goes to Messi. It hurts to admit that but truth can be hurtful at times. On an ending note, I will say that Mbappe had a spectacular game today and will hopefully have a bright future.
If it took this long for you that in itself is pretty laughable tbh
Pessi fan saying this....bro literally
.. pessi again carried by marti ez
Lol Penaldo has never been in the convo. Hes not even the best Ronaldo
Next time don't you dare compare Greatest of all time and good only at tapin again
Maybe Mbappe will surpass him he will win a lot in the future and a lot of Ballon Dor
In all my years of football ( im 50 years of age ) ...i have NEVER seen a world cup final match so dramatic as this one between France & Argentina....Both of these 2 teams gave absolutely everything on the pitch ( escpecially within the last 20 minutes) ...but in the end , destiny has its own pre- written completed script ...And according to that script , Argentina was supposed to be the final winners ...Congratulations to Argentina ....and France ...You made it worth our watch ...wow !!!!!!
Messi is and was the best footballer to me , looooooong before this world cup trophy ..
Congratulations Argentina!! This match was one filled with rollercoasters of emotions. Best final ever. Well played.
Mbappe appreciation post :
This guy at 23 single handedly kept France in the game in the full 120 mins with a hattrick of his own. He has already won a WC and he'll probably have a couple more before he retires 👑👑👑
Only one last shot he have beacuse when next world cup 2026 he is almost 28 after this age he lost his pace at least 30 - 40 % when he losses his pace he is going to trash...
@@durontajoy5151 you never know don't try predict
@@durontajoy5151 Why? He will adapt, he has all the tools for that.
He also has 12 WC goals already. The record is 16.
@@durontajoy5151 i feel like a guy as good as Mbappe will have no problem adapting to a newer play style
Thank you Argentina, France, Qatar for the greatest final of all times. And thank you Messi and Mbappe
8 Ballon D’Or coming ❤
100%
It is not that easy, psg has to beat bayern and messi has to continue his form throughout the year 2023
I feel mbappe should win it, the guys good
@@ayotbs3044 No chance, unfortunately. The World Cup win has sealed it
@@ayotbs3044 I agree with you however, trophies count
It was just like a boxing fight. KO after KO both heavyweights gave it all till the end. Glad I witnessed it live. Breathtaking.
Sincere thanks to Scaloni to bring this joy to all of us. He brought Messi to this level today. God bless Messi, Scaloni and Golie.
I bow to the GOAT Lionel Messi, I don't have much to say about Maradona but Ale did speaks my heart out loud and clear.
The save Martinez did in the last minute of the game was similar as the one of Iker Casillas did in World Cup final 2010 against Robben. Save of the tournament
Thank you Lionel Messi for bringing me so much joy for the last 15 years of my life. I love you. I really do.
Messi has always been the GOAT . This was just like a confirmation not a proof. Also this prevents any irrelevant arguments cuz now he has won it allll!
Hes the best of the era.. not the of all time.. this argument about the best of all time is negated since he nor Ronaldo played in an era before now.
@@jessejj86 Yes but if you look at stats impact trophies, competition(big one Messi has waaay more competition than Pele or Maradona), among other things there is a clear edge to Messi and even Ronaldo.
@@user-oe4wr9tn2n
And how looks the stats and success outside Prime barca?
@@Rnbsoccerstar7 lol. Like he wasn't a part of that team? You want the stats outside of barca well he has won a copa America and the world cup in the last 2 years.
No, Cristiano has always been the best and will be, like it or not.
Argentina’s 2nd goal was spectacular. Their counter attack was technical and smooth. I felt like I was part of that counter attack 😂 I was running with the ball even though I was standing lol
Indeed. And the better team won! Congrats to Argentina and Messi! 🎉
🤣🤣🤣
Both 2nd goals in the final were spectacular
Yes, after their joke of a penalty that they received before that it was a incredible play.
@@mike.cdn7212 Go cry in the back room. That was a clear penalty. Trips him from behind. Learn your rules.
It's incredible to think that after his four final losses for Argentina, he's now been part of a side that has won three finals in a row since 2020. I really thought he was just cursed with bad luck at international level before Argentina won the Copa America in Brazil. As someone who's watched him since his debut for Barca, it's so pleasing to see him finish his career with those achievements, especially a world cup. To do that between the age of 33-35 just makes his legacy even more incredible.
Copa America 2021
World Cup 2022
What s the 3rd final?
Totally agree, couldn't be any happier for him. Now he won a world cup, people will leave him alone
La Finissima ( contra Italia )
With Garnacho and Lo Celso ARG will be a much more dangerous team
@@draoicht22 what are the four final losses???
@@draoicht22 like the fourth one...what is it
It’s a PRIVILEGE to watch the GOAT become UNDISPUTED in his sport!
There was never a debate. One is a goalscorer. Messi isn`t just a goalscorer he is also the best playmaker in history.
Who's a goalscorer ?
Aside from being the most gifted player ever seen, Messi is also a true team man, willing to adapt to the role required of him. If somebody else is better placed to get the goals and glory, he'll gladly provide for them. Meanwhile, there's Ronaldo more concerned with scamming group stage goals he never even touches, his hangers on raging that a 37 year-old isn't having everything built around him anymore.
Messi just won a world cup and you're on Ronaldo.. Have mercy. Is it that you know.him and have personal vendetta.
Literally in the video description. 🤷♂️
@@jessejj86 tapinaldo cry more 😂😂😂😂😂
@@dulcedeleche000 messi wins by Tap in 🫶🏽
@@dulcedeleche000 pessi 😹
Wow that final really took years off my life. The up and down of emotions, and I'm usually pretty calm but by the end of 120th minute I was having horrible Higuain flashbacks and was ready to go bite into Lautaro, but DIBU!!! came through in the end
100% with you on all..he was great in copa and finalissama but wow rough wc that shot should have been one touch in net he took time defender recovered. then header .....really gave away how hews struggling he heded it 10 yards wide but he was great in others thank god for julian and enzo and mccalister was phenomenal too I thought lo celso loss was going to cause issues we saw in Saudi match where asking messi to create and finish like 2014 where he can do either and did just not both at same time. Luckily julian activity, same with enzo and mccalister's possession was most pleasant surpriseand allowed messi to drift and stay dangerous in final third. De paul and paredes warrior efforts molina, romero were great, otamendi always has moments but overall solid same with acuna. Incredible:) Euro, finalissima, WC this team has the spine of every champion squad coach ,captain ,chemistry, and keeper!! martinez was sensational!!! Amazing I felt equal parts elated , sick then elated/exhausted :) congrats!
Agree 👍
@@ryanphelan6861 I fully agree. It really was a rollercoaster of emotions, it's why I was so pissed at Lautaro, he really could have ended things. He even missed from that Acuna pass, and did not make his positioning and movement when Messi played him 1v1, and he even missed that one too. He came on as a sub and got 4 great, great chances. I was sad for Alvarez because he worked really hard as always in that final but didn't get a chance, only for Martinez to waste so many.
But yeah, the team was fantastic in the effort they put throughout the tournament. Yeah, it's like 3 straight titles in 2 years to crown Messi's International career.
@@Tunde....Ballack crazy stat nobody has mentioned from juniors for Argentina to , Olympics, Copa, finalissima, world, cup, for club trebles with Barca FIFA club world cup, la Liga, Copa del try, champions, even lique 1 last year, he's won every tournament he's ever competed in eventually...that's insane. Not taking into account 7ballon d'or, golden boots, assists, freekicks only behind juninho from brazil. He's fairy tale talent scouted at 12 by la masia in Spain while in Argentina. Like artist or Mozart. Lol I'm a fan 😉 and agreed with all you mentioned it was like 2014 all over ....that pass from messi he has to finish that one time as it roles across he took a touch to settle it for no reason it was open goal and like you said defender recovered. Brutal and that header but they won ☺️👍🍾
@@ryanphelan6861 I know, it's crazy. The man has completed Football, and he didn't just win them, he destroyed them. Let's just take international level for example, where he was supposed to be bad before this world cup.
*_U-20 World Cup_*
_Winner_
_Golden boot_
_MVP_
*_Olympics_*
_Winner_
_Joint MVP_
*_Copa America_*
_Winner (2021)_
_MVP (2015, 2021)_
_Golden Boot_
_Top Assist(2021)_
*_Finalissima_*
_Winner_
_MVP_
*_World Cup_*
_WINNER_
_Top Assist_
_Silver Boot_
_Golden Ball (2014, 2022)_
That is in the actual competition, but if we talk international records
*_Player with the most knockout assists in the world cup_*
*_Player with the most (Opta) goal contribution in the world cup_*
*_Only player to win 2 world cup MVPs_*
*_Player with most goals contribution in International competition_*
*_Player with the most goal contribution in knockouts of International competition_*
-*Player with the most International tournament MVPs*_
The only ones more upset than France fans are:
1. Portugal fans
2. Man Utd fans
3. Real Madrid fans
If combined we call it ronaldo fan
Or messi hater🤡@@NoahCedar
He’s out of Maradona’s shadow now they stand side by side as Argentine legends🙏
Ale Moreno is one of the best football analysts on TV, in my opinion. So passionate, knowledgeable and eloquent.
He’s a childish hater
He's really good
Unlike Mark Ogden! 😅
@@jayjay3013 Nah. He's articulate and great.
But why they always mentioning Ronaldo even if he went out in last 8
That last guy was SPEAKING ABSOLUTE NONSENSE 😂😂😂. REST BRO, Messi the G.O.A.T 🐐🙌🏾
Ronaldo is in pains right now and he's is feeling real depression right now concerning the issues he has with Man united combined with the fact that they were knocked out of the WC..He now sees that Portugal doesn't depend on him again.Messi has shown that he's the best in the world.apart from scoring goals Messi is a playmaker,his presence makes you wanna watch..infact he's the G.O.A.T
Portugal did depend on him before. Also his depression is mostly based on lost of his child
@@antonioytm he’s finished now
Go tidy up
Absolutely the best World Cup final in history. Both teams completely deserved this, playing to win to the last available second! Both managers deserve praise for the courage of their game plans. Both teams played *so* well 😁 France came back *twice* in a World Cup final ffs. Just astounding.
I called Argentina to win at the beginning of the tournament but my heart wanted France. Injuries to 5 major players before it even started... injuries from the 1st minutes of the tournament... virus running through the squad in the days right before the final...
*and still they did not let us down!*
Congratulations Argentina!
The Spain '82 and Mexico '86 finals were better.
I started watching soccer in 2008 because of Ronaldo. I followed his career and rivalry with Messi and always loved the goat debate. After Messi's World Cup victory, it's time to concede & acknowledge Messi as the goat.
Exactly the same journey with The Game for me, First came across CR7 in 08. Respect
The Mozart of our game for eternity.All the cynics,crtitics & haters keep throwing ur bricks at him! He take them and build another monument to the genius with them.Messi's world where the insane & impossible becomes the expected 🇦🇷🐐
Lionel Messi is the official 🐐. What a game 🔥
Actually, I never understand why the medias ve created that goat conversation between Messi vs CR7
Cuz anyone who understands football will say that Messi is undoubtedly the best (not only Cristiano) but the best of all time!!!
I'm sure, that we'll never see anything like Messi again!
Once in a lifetime!
The maestro, a genius, a magician, an alien!!!!
The GOAT F-O-R-E-V-E-R 🐐👽🏆🇦🇷
For me, it’s never been a debate between Messi and Ronaldo.
Ronaldo fans lay out STATs to show how great he is but
Meesi fans lay out actual PERFORMANCES to show how great he is.
That’s the difference between the two, period.
Messi is the GOAT.
Or the difference is the weakest group for messi and the better teammates? Just compare and watch the games.
Although 2 trophies out of 5 finals is very bad for someone considered the ultimate GOAT above the rest
Messi’s stats are better.
Well, the stats favor Messi too.
Yeah
.me tooo
He was already the goat before this WC, this win is just the icing on the cake
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
@@rican_921 who hurt u bro?
@@Bozhidar256 The world hurt him bro, he dont have evidence left to proof that Messi isnt the goat because he just won the world cup, which Ronaldo never have.
This game was predestined, this was meant to be, nothing could hinder him from winning tonight. All by the grace of God. Incredible game and what a way for Messi to cement his goat status. Truly the greatest I’ve seen. Wonderful footballer. Congratulations Argentina, Congratulations Messi.
Side note, Mbappe, you are incredible, I doubted you before this game and thought that the comparisons you were getting to some of the greats of the game was too much, but tonight, you’ve shown that you truly are a great. I salute you
You mean all by the grace of FIFA right? The guy scored at least one PK every game since the quarter finals. Di Maria ran and came to fall in the French box there it is PK given. The same stuff happened against Croatia, Netherlands and for all the Messi fan that's it he is the GOAT. 😆😆.
@@fitnesslegendwellbeing168 get a life dude
if you doubted Mbappé it's really that you don't follow this sport enough, it's grotesque, have you seen all his goals in the last 3 years in UCL ???? 1 month ago in Turin ??? How can we doubt this extra terrestrial apart from the haters I don't understand
@@Airlink_SG He misses chances right infront of goal I see Halaand as better tbh.
@@KingOfAssyria_IIVI it's absolutely not the same profile, you don't know anything it's scary 😂
it's like comparing Messi and Ibrahimovic at the time !!!!!!
There you are not comparing a winger with a 2m tall BU who scores 80% of his goals like Inzaghi and the rest of the Ibrahimovic style
The 2 have nothing to do! Mbappé is in creation, dribbling, speed, crosses, we can't do more complete at the new generation level, and he is currently top scorer in all competitions, World Cup, Champions League, Ligue 1, 2nd best passer history at the same age after Pelé (116)
So yes Haaland is a real 9, a pure 9, the address in finish is his caracteristic principal, he is also very fast but the first video link that I put , never Haaland will do that in his career, impossible and it's normal
Never saw Pele Play. But I have see most of the Greats of this era. Its Messi for me. He did things with a ball nobody has ever done. He was complete. A goal scorer, a play maker with a superior football IQ. What makes this a non debate as well look at what he continues to do at 35.
not for me
@@chrisbennett6260 that's subjective to you. He's the goat weather if you existed or not.
Pelé had a great team around him.
Messi at 35 still delivers.
He came through when the team needed him
@Jean-Patrice Paluku What made Messi better than these two: HARD WORK and CONSISTENCY!! Look at their performance in their 30's and Messi in his 30's. not even close!!!
@@jean-patricepaluku4754 you're crazy, Ronaldo nazario is way better than Ronaldinho and of course messi peak was way longer then r9.
Ale with an excellent point, Cristiano really isn't anywhere close to Messi (or Maradona, Pele type GOAT tier players) - his biggest achievement in his career was even being compared to Messi at all.
@@AFreaks mbappe is not in same league as any of them, he would be nothint without hes speed
@@AFreaks Lol R9 , Zidane, Cruyff, R10, Rivaldo, Baggio etc are all better than CR7, Who is just a stat merchant
@@oladejioriola5672Messi fans are a disease to the sport
@@oladejioriola5672 who's R10? You mean R9?
@@pm-hw6ht I guess it's Ronaldinho
This is one of those moments that u will never be able to forget in u r lifetime. Messi is truly the goat. He has won everything out there that is football. A massive weight has been lifted off his shoulder. He is the best that I have seen in my lifetime. World Champion finally.
What separates Messi and Ronaldo is personality. It's easier to love Messi. He's less ego. Less self obsessed. More focused on how he can adapt his game to benefit the team.
But may I add, they probably needed one another. To push each other to greater heights
Not only personality, messi has a world cup
Lol less ego Messi is egotistical narcissist he came out wearing a KING ROBE on the platform. He doesn't do it in the open often like Ronaldo but you can see he's full of himself
@Ace it's fun to figure out who the goat is there can only be one
Messi him self has proven who is the boss, who is the 🐐who is the 👑 who is the best of generation and you have the answer
Things maybe could've been different if Ronaldo was French, Brazilian, German, Italian or Spanish maybe Ronaldo would win World cup Portugal is not that great
Sir, Messi is Best of all Generations. Messi is Football and Football is Messi no doubt in my mind. Love from Pakistan to Messi and Argentina. Bravo
Nah. Messi is the greatest of all time. It’s Messi, then Pele and Maradona. This guy is just a hater and can’t admit that Messi is the best. He’s been dominating the game for more than a decade.
Used to be Messi miss crucial penalties. Now they say he score too many penalties. 😂
I think it has to do with the fact that people (especially Messi fans) were trying to mock Cr.Ronaldo for scoring penalties, apparently you have to miss your penalties to prove to these kids nowadays that you are a "GOAT".
Messi is GOAT and stupid fans don't have to pretend not to know that anymore. 😂
Best football final match ever. Certainly Best WC final ever. Big up to Messi and Mbappe, and as well as other players of both teams. So happy for Messi to have capped off his amazing career in such dramatic style. But honorable mention to Kylian Mbappe once again. What a courageous young man. 3 pressure penalties in a final and he put all 3 away as kool calm and collected . Wow 😲. The bravery !!. And he stepped up to take that 1st penalty in the shoot out 🫡 . Big up Messi also stepping up to take the 1st for his country too. 2 great players.
Not to mention, Mbpappe already won the WC and beat Arg in 2018. Today, he made France come back and stay in the game out of nowhere. Absolutely, insane player.
It's Liverpool vs Milan 2005
The Spain '82 and Mexico '86 World Cup finals were better.
The oldest player in world🏆⚽ to score more goals, assist, dribbling and etc NO MORE WORDS TO DESCRIBE IT🙏
Messi is the GOAT
LIVING BEING IS OUR RACE, MANKIND IS OUR RELIGION, HINDU,MUSLIM,SIKH,CHRISTAIN, THERE IS NO SEPARATE RELIGION
ALMIGHTY GOD KABIR is the father of all souls that JESUS, MOHAMMAD, GURU NANAK, VEDH was telling in BIBLE, QURAN, GURU GRANTHA SAHEB
.. In OLD Orthodox Jewish Bible KABIR is mentioned...KABIR means (GREAT or MIGHTY GOD) in hebrew...but when translated in different languages translator removed KABIR word
Quran written in arabic has also KABIR word....KABIR means THE GREAT in arabic.
In vedh also KABIR is mentioned....
GURU NANAK himself described that LORD KABIR is his Guru and Lord KABIR met him..and in GURU GRANTHA SAHEB Guru Nanak called Lord kabir as kartar (GOD)
Just by reading holy books it is impossible to get depth knowledge of Holy text because we are just a living beings.. In vedhas also KABIR is mentioned...our brain isnot capable and doesnot understands the secrets behind the words and world.....GURU NANAK, JESUS AND MOHAMMAD were aware of LORD KABIR but later followers were not able to get depth knowledge
THAT’S WHY HE’S THE GOAT 🐐 THE GOOOOOAAAT 🐐
Thats why hes mvp
Thats why hes the GOAT
THE GOAT
Cristiano Ronaldo🐐>Fifanel Penalessi
@@rican_921 Lol 0 goals in the knockout stages, Ronaldo is finished, just like his dead child.
@@rican_921 ronaldo fans shouldn't talk about penalties, when ronaldo himself scored his single goal at this wc through penalty.
@@rican_921 cry louder I still cant hear you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sou brasileiro e tenho que admitir, Messi é o maior jogador de todos os tempos
Blind brasileiro , it’s Pelé you fool.
You cannot compare Messi and Christiano because one is a midfielder and other is a striker. The way they contribute to the team, is completely different.
Messi is a midfielder yet is a better goalscorer than Ronaldo statistically 💀 Ronaldo isnt bad, messi is just too good. Messi is a positionless anomaly that can do everything on the pitch
Who is midfielder
Midfielder?
Yes but they are both players and Messi is the best player ever ! 👍
Think if it was Messi playing for Portugal and cr7 for Argentina. Who do u think will win world cup
I am united fan and been a Ronaldo fan since I followed united in 2007. But when I watched Messi especially in 2010 I knew he was the greatest player to ever walk the earth. There is no player like him and there never will be. But there will be more players like Ronaldo.
Never been any doubt Messi not just for his goals for his incredible passing range, link up play and over 370 assists. He is a magician ,has the X factor that others don't.
I agree 100% with Mark Ogden. Every generation has its outstanding player and for the last 15 years Messi was the best. But you can’t compare him with other generations, because Football has change a lot. In Pelés time yellow cards didn’t exist, so he got kicked a lot. Just enjoy the fact that we had the chance to see Messi in our lifetime.
As a kid growing up in the 80s and 90s there were football greats but 2 names stood out amongst the Cruyffs, Beckenbauers, Eusebios of the footballing world and that was Pele and Maradona. Since then I think it's fair to put Zidane and R9 Ronaldo in that group and today Messi is up there with them.
What a privilege to witness this man's career. 👏
I've always been a CR7 fan.. but I'm going to be honest.. with Messi winning the world cup it just feels like the Convo is over.. it just feels like everything that Ronaldo has done and accomplished is insignificant.. there's no way he can stand next to Messi now.. Messi has finally won the world cup
Thanks God Almighty 🙏 For giving this honour to lionell Messi .
Best comment.
Good call.
FIFA is the most corrupt and racist sporting organization in the world that way all white Argentina team win world ,FIFA wanted Messi to win world cup to prove he is greater than the KING Pele . Pele had to overcome the racism he faced playing against these racist Europeans in his day. Woo to FIFA.
All debate ends here.. he is the undisputed GOAT.
I managed to escape a heart attack multiple times in this freaking game. Glad Messi & ARG won but FRA did well also!
There will never be like messi and ronaldo ever, messis talent from god and ronaldo hard work ❤️ respect to both of them
Messi doing the deal right from the under 17 world cup, 2005,to the Olympics ,2008,to the Copa America, 2021 and now the Fifa world cup,2022 for Argentina. Let's not forget he also loss in three finals(two Copa America and one world cup final). He's such an amazing player.
DiMaria scored in the Olympic Final, Finalissimo, scored the 0-1 goal against Brazil in Copa America Final which decided it for Argentina and created the first two goals of this World Cup Final. And yet nobody rarely talks about this absolute HUGE player. Amazing.
Not a fan of France but God danm what a game that was the French team are fighters that’s something they should be proud off but messi is a genius
I love seeing Messi being carried around the stadium holding the Wold Cup trophy 🏆 just like Maradona 🕊️ in ‘86
Ronaldo plays football for fans. But Messi plays football for professional footballers who learn something from Messi.
We have seen a good sign from Mbappe as a rising star, but we are witnessing a GOAT that has stood on this big stage for 18years
They were all great players but Messi is THE GREATEST and to my mind he will stay . FOREVER
It could be Mbappe or there could be a kid somewhere, kicking a ball in a poor part of the world completely unaware of their talent. The most beautiful thing about football is that we will always have the heroes of the past, the heroes of today and the heroes of tomorrow. It truly is the Beautiful Game
Di Maria is under appreciated, he won messi the copa america and now the world cup. No one can match di maria and messi
I fell in love with football by watching Cristiano Ronaldo, and you can’t take that away. But Messi is the GOAT 🐐
Same. CR7 was the first player I came across
I saw Pele with the Cosmos at Yankee stadium. For his age he was still amazing. He could jump so high and used his leverage, skill, low center of gravity to be strong a no 9 (7). Maradona was constantly kicked but was so fast, skillful and amazing. After Owen and Shearer plus other Continental stars were getting hurt due to kicking brutally the owners/executives decided to change the game. Leo is the best of his time but I still have him equal with Pele and Maradona. I did see Messi play in Giants stadium for the Final of Copa Centanario and I saw him train with MSN…so amazing and Neymar was on 🔥 in that session. The big 3 is Messi Pele Maradona
This is the best game. Soccer has captured my heart and the hearts of my family. Thank you to all the teams and players for a tremendous World Cup.
1. Messi
2. Maradona
3. Pele
4. CR7
5. Zidane or R9. That's the list
Zidane or R9 above CR7. They have world cup...
I'm literally NEVER engaging in this GOAT debate ever again. I've been a long time Ronaldo fan but i guess it's time to accept reality. What messi did at this tournament at 35 is just unbelievable.
There's a difference though. CR7 put Portugal on the map with lesser talent. Messi didn't do that. Argentina will always be a force in football. Portugal, probably not. In fact, him winning or not winning the WC was never about Messi vs CR7. It was about Maradona vs Messi. It always was. CR7 greatness in Portugal was never in doubt. For Messi, it was with Argentina.
Portugal already achieved their World cup. They won the EC. Nobody expected this. Actually Portugal squad value is over Argentinas by many 100 millions, at least in this world cup ...
@@majormononoke8958 Value means nothing. There's many players that are overvalued and that doesn't make them good.
let enjoy and congratulations to messi the greatest complete player of all time and the entire team of Argentina for his last moment.