The best goal scorer The best assistant The best dribbler The best playmaker The best passer The best shooter The best at free kicks most goals in finals most assists in finals most goals outside the box most goals without penalties most 'player of the match' Hes been doing this for 15 years and some people still wonder why he has 7 Ballon D'or 🤣 dude deserved 10 at least
He is not the best at a lot of those skills. People rate him the best of all time because they never saw Alfredo Di Stefano until he was past his best, or just playing for Spain when he never had his heart in it. For me Di Stefano was twice as good as Messi if you can believe it, for he had just a much skill and a whole lot more. And it was not Real Madrid who won the European Cup five times in a row it was Alfredo Stefano Di Stefano Laulhe. He lined up at centre forward wearing number nine and scored goals more regularly than most orthodox spearheads, often the top league goalscorer in Spain. But he wandered everywhere dropping back to challenge and scheme in midfield and even covered in defence and was virtually a one-man team and all in world class company. Messi can't do all that.
@@franklinclinton_1988FC Both are clear are playmaking in the recent era. Messi has the most playmaker awards with 5, Xavi is the second with 4. Ofc there was more competition a decade ago but Messi has been doing for more time, plus his number of assists is unreal. Hard to choose
My younger brother has every single Messi stat and record. This kid is all he does and each time Leo reaches another milestone, he shows me. So many records he's got 11 screenshot pages of 143 records set by Messi. He's been fact checked over and over. My brother is no expert, he's just a kid. Yet he knows why Leo is the goat. I know just from watching him for the past 20 yrs. All you need to do is watch one match. Whether he scores or not, you can see how he controls everyone's passing. His dribbling is top. Most in a season, and most career dribbles.
@@user-rf4vf5gi2l Both parents born there. I was born in Canada. (Not proud) Canada sucks. Lived in Miami for 20 yrs, and in Miami, we don't follow NFL, or MLS. Only real football. 💪
It's still strange to me after 15 years how they can compare Ronaldo to him. Messi is overall superior than any attacking player alive today. Even if he scored 17 goals a season instead of 50, he'd still operate at prime Zidane and Laudrup level.
@@santosh5572 are you a clown or illiterate? 8 time bdr winner, 6 time golden boot winner and wc winner to be compared by the likes of cr7? Show your over smartness somewhere else
@@santosh5572 Did u read what he said? He said Messi is overall superior. It means Messi can't be compared to anyone because he's many levels above everyone else
The players today are faster and stronger than in the past, and Messi proved his mettle as a leader, as a scorer, as a playmaker, and as a magician of the pitch: this World Cup campaign was incredible -- he played every minute of every match and weathered it all, only to triumph in the end. UNBELIEVABLE.
It was a really important world cup for future reference. If he bottled it, the disrespect from the next generation would've been too much. He proved that he can play in 3 generations during his career and therefor could play in ANY generation. The great players before him, the players that played in the same era as Leo and the next generation. He's done it all and was the best in all three.
Thats just straight disrespect with the old football, for someone that probably DIDNT lived when Pele and Maradone lived saying that is just making messi overrated and Pele n Maradona gets underrated, and if you dont think they are better than messi for the proof on my side you can actually watch every game with them and compare with messi, well tbh messi is a really good player but not as great as the real ones.
Personally, Messi is a genius even if he didn’t won the WC, that is for stats only Now, Messi we can say that is the football definition, it’s like you trying to describe him and you can’t He is unique in the way is playing the game, scanning the field and producing magic when you are not expecting so to me this man cannot be compared at al since football has been invented
Above and beyond the fact that Leo is undoubtedly the best ever all round footballer of all time; he is such a joy to watch because he never gets angry and doesn't cause a scene on the field, he keeps his cool AND that is the trait of a professional.
With Ronaldo now out of GOAT debate, haters will now bring Pele into it and their point would be that Pele has won the most number of World Cups. Before it was Messi never won the World Cup. Crazy jealous people and haters out there but 5% I will say. There's always some 5% stupid jealous people out there. Messi is the GOAT, debate ends. Now, just let's all enjoy our GOAT Messi play and show his magic until he finally retires. Messi is GOAT, if you want to argue go somewhere else.
@ytozillnah ronaldos is yet to achieve more to catch messi. Right now he has only achieved 80% of that of messi Bring anything statistics , records, trophies , individual awards Messi will stand on top Well lets solve the debate Statistics :- Ronaldo is a better finisher,better with weak foot and headers, have more sprint speed, penalties Messi is a better shooting , dribbling , passing , playmaking , freekicks, outside box , goal creating- actions such as key passes, big chances created , accurate through balls Now lets compare real statistics Ronaldo - 895 goals and 252 assistd in 1231 matches Messi - 838 goals and 374 assists in 1069 matches Lets note that ronaldo played 162 matches more than messi so we have to take goal ratio/G/A per game ratio Goals per game - ronaldo 0.72 goals per game Messi - 0.78 goals per game G/A per game Ronaldo - 0.93 G/A per game Messi - 1.13 G/A per game To think about it averaging a G/A of more than 1 in every game is impossible to maintain Assists per game ratio Messi - 0.35 assists per game Ronaldo - 0.20 assists per game Now its clear messi takes this category if you want to take othee secondary statistics then okay Hattricks - ronaldo has 6 more Freekicks - messi has 2 more Outside box goals - messi has 27 more Ronaldo has about 120 more headers Ronaldo has about 600 more shots 100 more shots on target Messi has a higher % on shots on target and better shots per goal percentage Messi has more successfull dribbles , key passes, big chances created Ronaldo has more aerial duels won Messi has a higher expected goals xG and expected assists xA Ronaldo has better penalty conversion ratio Messi has better freekick conversion ratio More man of the match Better average match rating in career I missed stats like minutes per goal/ minutes per assists and g/a which messi takes and i add that you can calculate points won by borh players Second category is trophies Major big trophies Ronaldo won are 5 champions league 1 euros 1 nations league Major big trophies messi won are 4 champions league 1 world cup 2 copa america 1 finalissma If you want all trophies domestic and European, international Messi has 45 trophies and ronaldo 35 tropgies We can put trophies into three categories , domestic ,international, european European - ronaldo has won more champions league , club world cup than messi so he takes it International - messi has won double trophies than that of ronaldo and plus world cup alone carries a huge weight it can outweigh ronaldo’s nations league and euros even if messi won only 1 international trophy which a world cup Domestic:- messi has won more league titles , domestic super cups , domestic king cups 2-1 messi wins trophy category The last is individual awards Most prestigious individual award in football is:- Ballan d’or Fifa best player of the year Uefa best Golden boot Puskas Messi has won 3 more ballan d’ors 1 more fifa men’s player , 2 more golden boots Ronaldo has won 1 more uefa best club footballer , won one more puskas Messi outweighs ronaldo with his ballan d’or count alone Messi takes individual awards category Next additional catogary i will add is Eye test:- Ronaldo is more athletic and elegant to watch , he is a physical poweress and goal scoring machine, a complete striker who can finish with both legs and head And messi is a goal scoring machine , who operates like zidane and pirlo in the midfield at the same time, provide final balls and final third blows like puskas ozil and di maria, dribbles on average like prime maradona and garrincha did, consistently dribbling at top level for 15 years Consistently top at playmaking for past 10-15 years Consistently top at goal scoring for past 20 years Even the fact that he is a full playmaker right now he still is in list of most goals scored in last 5 years, despite not being a target man at psg, intermiami and beginning of 2020’s when he was playing with a dying barca side he was still scoring tons when his main quality was playmaking Still i cant believe he is in list of most goals scored in last 5 years He has most goals scored in the last decade and you look at playmaking stats like assists, chances created he also has most in the last decade If you look at dribbles he has most this decade so far and last decade too Only thing i would like to give ronaldo is his consistency in the ucl, he is obviously better at ucl than messi But i think messi is better because of his dominanant side on domestic and international where he expells the most. International last decade he might have won anything but he surely was one of best because he carried his team to 3 finals last decade alone, lost all 3. Lost 2 as the best player of the tournament which is a impressive feet. Like ronaldo’s dominance in ucl knockouts Messi’s dominance in international knockouts is top level Domestically lets take into fact they both played in same league for 9 years 09-18 He let ronaldo win only 2 league titles, 2 super cups , 2 cups Which is i think shame for a side like real madrid who is dominant on champions league It feels like barca is just made and manufactured for domestic success, now obviously barca has declined so much and historically madrid is miles better
When opposition fans applaude Messi, you know he is on his own. I am glad I was born in this era. Even though I never watched Messi in person, TH-cam is enough
Something that doesn't get spoken about as much, is that Messi didn't have it easy besides the Pep, VIlanova and Enrique eras. He played with so many coaches and players that were far from Barca worthy and carried them for years and years on end. Let me present you with a list of the worst players he was supposed to carry to a Champions League. - *COACHES*: Tata Martino, Valverde, Setien, Koeman. - *PLAYERS* | Boateng, Mathieu, Douglas, Sandro Ramirez, Martin Braithwaite, Trincao, Semedo, Raphinha, Paulinho, Firpo, Alcacer, Malcom, Lenglet, Yerry Mina, Digne, Aleix Vidal, Andre Gomes, Munir El Haddadi, Bartra, Denis Suarez, etc. Now imagine most of those managers with the players above in their teams. It was always a match made in hell. Imo Barca did everything to sabotage him and when they milked him dry, they got rid of him like the players in the list above. The fact that he never got a farewell at Barca is a disgrace and should tell you they only used Messi to cover for whatever was happening in the background.
Very well put. Barca treated him disgracefully. If you see a photo of him at that time, he looks terrible. He's bent over, very thin and looks at least ten years older. He was carrying a greatly diminished Barca on his back.He kept them in CL and even won Copa del Rey. And then they threw him out. It's an incredible story.. The minute he was out Barca was relegated. Karma.
Observation,tactic,technic,magician moves,poetry in motion,football IQ on the level far beyond all others,deadly pases,unimagineble dribbles, effective scoring,personal and team statistics&trophies...a galactic traveller...God of all football Gods.
@@teddymwangi Maradona had a shorter peak time and didn't won copa too. After Messi also carried Argentina to world Cup, and with his all other accomplishments absolutely surpassing Maradona, there isn't much argument for that. I love Maradona. He was amazing too, a true legend of the game, but now Messi is goat! The rankings released by most sport magazines are pretty accurate. Messi, Pele, Maradona. Top 3 in that order. The greatest to ever touch a football.
Pelé still the greatest. 3 World Cups. Argentinian players still can’t surpass him. Maradona never did and Messi would need to win at least another World Cup to have a discussion.
Truly, he is human , but he ones from another planet , like “super man”, genius only come around in our life times on few occasions, this is one of them! Leonel Messi! , Thank you for being a wonderful man , father , husband , matador to football and a joy for me , my kids and family to what you have given and football to you 😘🙏🏻
Football like all sports have revolutions and evolutions. First came the all around di stefano and surprised europe. Then pele show a level of skill at a young age not seen before and a strong body. Then came Cruyff with his total football revolution and change football tactically. Then maradona showed us a technique so exquisite many of us fell in love, new skills and a ball control that took football to another level. Then the brazilian era R10 R9 and many others brougth the joga bonito. Cr7 and messi put on incredible numbers while being consistent through the years. And in the case of messi he turned into a footballer with the playmaking of maradona, while scoring like pele and dribbling like the best making him the utlimate football attacker. Messi is the last evolution of a football player. Dont know what could be next...
Diego, pele y Messi son distintas generaciones, así como fue distinto fútbol cuando jugában. Cada uno fue el mejor de sus generaciones y creo que por eso no se pueden comparar, el fútbol cambia permanentemente. Si se destaca el nivel de leo con 35 años, una locura.
Messi is light years better than Pele and Maradona Messi has proven to be the best player in history. In a modern era of soccer. pele was the best at a prehistoric era of soccer.
Pelé is greater and better than Messi. Pelé was fast, strong, two footed, great scorer, great header, good free kick taker, great playmaker in a way that Messi is not. Pelé refounded football with his multiple skills, his plays, fisicality, professionalism, functions on the game... and he did it without having the technology and material that current players have. So, Pelé is the GOAT.
It matters a lot which era you play like before it was only a side job but now everyone is a pro and since kids all pros are specifically trained so Im sure Messi the 🐐 and also Ronaldo much better cause they humiliated these pros on a regular basis and consistently and rose above others for almost 2 decade so I don't think they can be replicated for sure Messi can't be replicated simply untouchable
The most beautiful things about MESSI,his record speaks In club levels, country leval, compitition level AND world cup level no ONE had these records YES no Pele,no Maradona taking in account And recent play are no match for him too
Besides being the best scorer, the best assistant, the best dribbler and the best playmaker, Lio has a very unique skill only one other player, Diego, can claim... They have the best story telling. They don't just play football, they "write" it. They are football players that go beyond football, to a new dimensión of their own. They are EPIC. In the name of Diego Fathers, the son Lio and Di Stefano Spirit. Olé!
Guy has Most golden boots most iffhs playmaker awards most goals in a year in a season most assists in a year in a season Most international player of the tournament most league player of the tournament , most champions league player of the tournament ( shared ) most goals in career finals No debate
It's not about people's opinions anymore... It's about the catholic truth : MESSI IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME AND ALWAYS WILL BE FOOTBALL'S NUMBER 1. All those who do not want to see that, will live in denial until they die
Football was brutal back in the days, but currently Football rules and laws are getting tougher. It's even more difficult to score goals these days compared to the past, just because of the rules and technology.
G.O.A.T. = JOY TO WATCH WEEK BY WEEK, MAGICAL DISPLAYS DAY IN DAY OUT, M.V.P. EVERYWHERE, GOLDEN BALL WINNER EVERYWHERE, TOP GOALSCORER & TOP ASSISTER EVERYWHERE. MOST TROPHIES AND AWARDS WON IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE SPORT. THAT'S WHAT THE DEFINITION OF G.O.A.T. IS
When he's talking about how Messi lays back and observes the enemy and identify weaknesses seems a little like the strategy that Lebron adopts in game one of playoff series in the NBA. Both definitely at the top of the Cerebral part of their respective sports.
Messi is miles clear of any footballer. Sometimes it really made me think ehy people even argue about that, especially when they compare with cr7. I mean cr7 is definitely one of the greatest but no way he is even near to Messi level. Messi is simply the greatest and the best footballer ever. And this is coming from a person who started watching football because of Cristiano Ronaldo
If we added all the Goals of PK he generously and ego less he gave to his mates The So many times he didn't care about Three hat. Thats what makes him thr best. YOU CAN'T MESSURE HIS KINDENESS
It's not fair to compare different era's. But for this generation, he is the King. With all respect to CR7. You can't campare with the guy who scores as much goals as by far best scorer, and also gives tones of assist, main dribbler (by far) in his era, and in the peak was capable to get the ball in the middle of the peach, in a very static situation, and by himself just go and score a goal destroying everebody from one of the greates football team (Real Madrid) with super starts on each position in a Championship League Play-Offs.
3:03 What are you talking about man? Maradona's team was not leaving group stage or even winning a world cup without him. Maradona almost single-handedly win the world cup in 86, every goal that they scored came as a result of his touch. However, Messi is very accurate and is surely from another planet. Messi is perfect.
I DON´T SEE PENALDO´S WIFE OR SISTER OR MARADONA FANS IN SOCIAL MEDIA ANYMORE TALKING TRASH OF MESSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHA DEBATE IS OVER, MESSI IS GOAT!
It's not a opinion anymore it's facts been that even before the world cup but the world cup was for the haters and doubters who only had that missing argument against Messi now with the world cup win it's facts Messi is THE 🐐💯🪄⚽️. Messi now plays just for extra stuff to add Messi completed football trophies stats wins awards longevity peak motm performances. All objective honest understanding football fans know Messi is the nr 1 footballer in history, the Best Goat by far. Only subjective C.Ronaldo fans trolls haters fanboys who don't understand the game will disagree even after the world cup and will never admit or accept that Messi is the Goat Best ever. But most importantly all or most true football fans know Messi stands alone at the top with the other Legends Icons Goats U can make a case for Pele Maradona but I go with Messi🐐💯🪄⚽️ Love Respect All The Legends Goats Icons
I ❤ ronaldo a lot but i ❤ messi more. Why? The details are explained in the video, is not about goals or trophies. Most of people who love messi like him for how he plays the game, statistics comes as 2nd reason.
Maldini, Pirlo, Zlatan, Lampard, Gerrard, Gattuso, Buffon, Capello, Van Persie, Sneijder, Cantona, Owen, Peter Crouch, Robben, Cafu, Cavani, Alan Shearer, Van Basten, Rooney, Figo, Riijkard, Bergkamp, Gullit, David Silva, Lahm, Deco, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Cech, R9, Dinho are just some of the names who has consistently pick Messi. Players who played with Leo don't even bother with silly debates and i try not to include them above. I'd even say at least 2/3 of all footballing legends be it players or coaches picks Messi and doubles down on that choice. The debate is futile.
People just can't accept the fact that Messi is the genius of the game as people talks about Einstein that's what Messi is end of story history is made in soccer and Messi did it gracefully and in his own style the 🐐 forever
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Messi was the GOAT even before the world cup triumph. The WC is just the icing on the cake.
The best goal scorer
The best assistant
The best dribbler
The best playmaker
The best passer
The best shooter
The best at free kicks
most goals in finals
most assists in finals
most goals outside the box
most goals without penalties
most 'player of the match'
Hes been doing this for 15 years and some people still wonder why he has 7 Ballon D'or 🤣 dude deserved 10 at least
True bro but everybody don't have good taste n that's ok n also everybody is not born intelligent 🤣.Messi the Goat 🐐
Well said
He is not the best at a lot of those skills. People rate him the best of all time because they never saw Alfredo Di Stefano until he was past his best, or just playing for Spain when he never had his heart in it. For me Di Stefano was twice as good as Messi if you can believe it, for he had just a much skill and a whole lot more. And it was not Real Madrid who won the European Cup five times in a row it was Alfredo Stefano Di Stefano Laulhe. He lined up at centre forward wearing number nine and scored goals more regularly than most orthodox spearheads, often the top league goalscorer in Spain. But he wandered everywhere dropping back to challenge and scheme in midfield and even covered in defence and was virtually a one-man team and all in world class company. Messi can't do all that.
Pelé is better than Messi in everything you said LOL, yall stans are stupid
@@franklinclinton_1988FC Both are clear are playmaking in the recent era. Messi has the most playmaker awards with 5, Xavi is the second with 4. Ofc there was more competition a decade ago but Messi has been doing for more time, plus his number of assists is unreal. Hard to choose
My younger brother has every single Messi stat and record. This kid is all he does and each time Leo reaches another milestone, he shows me. So many records he's got 11 screenshot pages of 143 records set by Messi. He's been fact checked over and over. My brother is no expert, he's just a kid. Yet he knows why Leo is the goat. I know just from watching him for the past 20 yrs. All you need to do is watch one match. Whether he scores or not, you can see how he controls everyone's passing. His dribbling is top. Most in a season, and most career dribbles.
How old is your brother
He's 19. Little because I'm 10 yrs older. 🤣
good for him. i can relate to loving that idea of a complete knowledge and no better to study than the goat
Connect me with your brother. I am also a leo record keeper
@@user-rf4vf5gi2l Both parents born there. I was born in Canada. (Not proud) Canada sucks. Lived in Miami for 20 yrs, and in Miami, we don't follow NFL, or MLS. Only real football. 💪
It's still strange to me after 15 years how they can compare Ronaldo to him. Messi is overall superior than any attacking player alive today. Even if he scored 17 goals a season instead of 50, he'd still operate at prime Zidane and Laudrup level.
Highly underrated comment
yeah messi can't be compared to Ronaldo. CR7 on next level. messi should be compared with other footballers. very well said.
@@santosh5572 are you a clown or illiterate? 8 time bdr winner, 6 time golden boot winner and wc winner to be compared by the likes of cr7? Show your over smartness somewhere else
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@@santosh5572 Did u read what he said? He said Messi is overall superior. It means Messi can't be compared to anyone because he's many levels above everyone else
Leo Messi made me enjoying watching football from childhood until my grown up stage same way he is the greatest of all time no doubt about that.🥇⚽🏆🇦🇷
The players today are faster and stronger than in the past, and Messi proved his mettle as a leader, as a scorer, as a playmaker, and as a magician of the pitch: this World Cup campaign was incredible -- he played every minute of every match and weathered it all, only to triumph in the end. UNBELIEVABLE.
It was a really important world cup for future reference. If he bottled it, the disrespect from the next generation would've been too much.
He proved that he can play in 3 generations during his career and therefor could play in ANY generation. The great players before him, the players that played in the same era as Leo and the next generation. He's done it all and was the best in all three.
R9 . Maldini . Nesta . Kaka . Carlos . Pepe. Ramos . Puyol ...
U sûre about that?
@@willg1088 on average yes, but there are and will always be exceptions :)
Not only that Players are technically better, more countries are playing football, competition is a lot stiffer
Thats just straight disrespect with the old football, for someone that probably DIDNT lived when Pele and Maradone lived saying that is just making messi overrated and Pele n Maradona gets underrated, and if you dont think they are better than messi for the proof on my side you can actually watch every game with them and compare with messi, well tbh messi is a really good player but not as great as the real ones.
The phenomenal Messi will be remembered for ever for his consistently remarkable performance.
Remarkable is one hell of an understatement
No one mentioned that he is the only player that had the opposition fans chanting his name during the game out of respect on numerous times
#Goat🐐🐐
he isnt the only one. ronaldinho also used to get opposition fans applauding him out of respect.
@@sadman225 bcz he was loved not bcz of respect
Also standing ovations in Ballon D'or
What about Iniesta, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo Nazario ?
@@amr4336 he said numerous times... he didn't just say messi is the only one. Stop understanding things outa context
KING of all GOATS
@sushant.... Correction... KING GOAT...!
@@RIO-.. MESSI is the king of all goats !
Messi could play another ten years as a mid-fielder if he wanted to ... and he would be the best in that role in the world.
Very true and he'd likely be that midfielder who scores more that attackers
The greatest footballer of all the time no one can replace him because he is the greatest of greatest
Personally, Messi is a genius even if he didn’t won the WC, that is for stats only
Now, Messi we can say that is the football definition, it’s like you trying to describe him and you can’t
He is unique in the way is playing the game, scanning the field and producing magic when you are not expecting so to me this man cannot be compared at al since football has been invented
Messi
The Allien GOAT
The greatest of all time.
Period.
@veritas... Asi Es!!
Yes not just the modern era.
Pelé
After Pelé.
Above and beyond the fact that Leo is undoubtedly the best ever all round footballer of all time; he is such a joy to watch because he never gets angry and doesn't cause a scene on the field, he keeps his cool AND that is the trait of a professional.
With Ronaldo now out of GOAT debate, haters will now bring Pele into it and their point would be that Pele has won the most number of World Cups. Before it was Messi never won the World Cup. Crazy jealous people and haters out there but 5% I will say. There's always some 5% stupid jealous people out there. Messi is the GOAT, debate ends. Now, just let's all enjoy our GOAT Messi play and show his magic until he finally retires. Messi is GOAT, if you want to argue go somewhere else.
Concordo 100 %
Com a conquista da copa do GÊNIO MESSI
Acabou a discussão
@ytozillnah ronaldos is yet to achieve more to catch messi. Right now he has only achieved 80% of that of messi
Bring anything statistics , records, trophies , individual awards
Messi will stand on top
Well lets solve the debate
Statistics :-
Ronaldo is a better finisher,better with weak foot and headers, have more sprint speed, penalties
Messi is a better shooting , dribbling , passing , playmaking , freekicks, outside box , goal creating- actions such as key passes, big chances created , accurate through balls
Now lets compare real statistics
Ronaldo - 895 goals and 252 assistd in 1231 matches
Messi - 838 goals and 374 assists in 1069 matches
Lets note that ronaldo played 162 matches more than messi so we have to take goal ratio/G/A per game ratio
Goals per game - ronaldo 0.72 goals per game
Messi - 0.78 goals per game
G/A per game
Ronaldo - 0.93 G/A per game
Messi - 1.13 G/A per game
To think about it averaging a G/A of more than 1 in every game is impossible to maintain
Assists per game ratio
Messi - 0.35 assists per game
Ronaldo - 0.20 assists per game
Now its clear messi takes this category if you want to take othee secondary statistics then okay
Hattricks - ronaldo has 6 more
Freekicks - messi has 2 more
Outside box goals - messi has 27 more
Ronaldo has about 120 more headers
Ronaldo has about 600 more shots
100 more shots on target
Messi has a higher % on shots on target and better shots per goal percentage
Messi has more successfull dribbles , key passes, big chances created
Ronaldo has more aerial duels won
Messi has a higher expected goals xG and expected assists xA
Ronaldo has better penalty conversion ratio
Messi has better freekick conversion ratio
More man of the match
Better average match rating in career
I missed stats like minutes per goal/ minutes per assists and g/a which messi takes and i add that you can calculate points won by borh players
Second category is trophies
Major big trophies Ronaldo won are
5 champions league
1 euros
1 nations league
Major big trophies messi won are
4 champions league
1 world cup
2 copa america
1 finalissma
If you want all trophies domestic and European, international
Messi has 45 trophies and ronaldo 35 tropgies
We can put trophies into three categories , domestic ,international, european
European - ronaldo has won more champions league , club world cup than messi so he takes it
International - messi has won double trophies than that of ronaldo and plus world cup alone carries a huge weight it can outweigh ronaldo’s nations league and euros even if messi won only 1 international trophy which a world cup
Domestic:- messi has won more league titles , domestic super cups , domestic king cups
2-1 messi wins trophy category
The last is individual awards
Most prestigious individual award in football is:-
Ballan d’or
Fifa best player of the year
Uefa best
Golden boot
Puskas
Messi has won 3 more ballan d’ors 1 more fifa men’s player , 2 more golden boots
Ronaldo has won 1 more uefa best club footballer , won one more puskas
Messi outweighs ronaldo with his ballan d’or count alone
Messi takes individual awards category
Next additional catogary i will add is
Eye test:-
Ronaldo is more athletic and elegant to watch , he is a physical poweress and goal scoring machine, a complete striker who can finish with both legs and head
And messi is a goal scoring machine , who operates like zidane and pirlo in the midfield at the same time, provide final balls and final third blows like puskas ozil and di maria, dribbles on average like prime maradona and garrincha did, consistently dribbling at top level for 15 years
Consistently top at playmaking for past 10-15 years
Consistently top at goal scoring for past 20 years
Even the fact that he is a full playmaker right now he still is in list of most goals scored in last 5 years, despite not being a target man at psg, intermiami and beginning of 2020’s when he was playing with a dying barca side he was still scoring tons when his main quality was playmaking
Still i cant believe he is in list of most goals scored in last 5 years
He has most goals scored in the last decade and you look at playmaking stats like assists, chances created he also has most in the last decade
If you look at dribbles he has most this decade so far and last decade too
Only thing i would like to give ronaldo is his consistency in the ucl, he is obviously better at ucl than messi
But i think messi is better because of his dominanant side on domestic and international where he expells the most. International last decade he might have won anything but he surely was one of best because he carried his team to 3 finals last decade alone, lost all 3. Lost 2 as the best player of the tournament which is a impressive feet. Like ronaldo’s dominance in ucl knockouts
Messi’s dominance in international knockouts is top level
Domestically lets take into fact they both played in same league for 9 years 09-18
He let ronaldo win only 2 league titles, 2 super cups , 2 cups
Which is i think shame for a side like real madrid who is dominant on champions league
It feels like barca is just made and manufactured for domestic success, now obviously barca has declined so much and historically madrid is miles better
When opposition fans applaude Messi, you know he is on his own. I am glad I was born in this era.
Even though I never watched Messi in person, TH-cam is enough
Something that doesn't get spoken about as much, is that Messi didn't have it easy besides the Pep, VIlanova and Enrique eras. He played with so many coaches and players that were far from Barca worthy and carried them for years and years on end. Let me present you with a list of the worst players he was supposed to carry to a Champions League.
- *COACHES*: Tata Martino, Valverde, Setien, Koeman.
- *PLAYERS* | Boateng, Mathieu, Douglas, Sandro Ramirez, Martin Braithwaite, Trincao, Semedo, Raphinha, Paulinho, Firpo, Alcacer, Malcom, Lenglet, Yerry Mina, Digne, Aleix Vidal, Andre Gomes, Munir El Haddadi, Bartra, Denis Suarez, etc.
Now imagine most of those managers with the players above in their teams. It was always a match made in hell. Imo Barca did everything to sabotage him and when they milked him dry, they got rid of him like the players in the list above. The fact that he never got a farewell at Barca is a disgrace and should tell you they only used Messi to cover for whatever was happening in the background.
Very well put. Barca treated him disgracefully. If you see a photo of him at that time, he looks terrible. He's bent over, very thin and looks at least ten years older. He was carrying a greatly diminished Barca on his back.He kept them in CL and even won Copa del Rey. And then they threw him out. It's an incredible story.. The minute he was out Barca was relegated. Karma.
All clubs are the same
Observation,tactic,technic,magician moves,poetry in motion,football IQ on the level far beyond all others,deadly pases,unimagineble dribbles, effective scoring,personal and team statistics&trophies...a galactic traveller...God of all football Gods.
Measi is the greatest most complete player of all time
He is 3 players in 1 the absolute 🐐
I’m Argentine, thus my opinion is 100% biased.
Still, Messi is the best footballer that ever lived. Hands down.
and maradona is not
@@teddymwangi No, he isn't.
@@teddymwangi Maradona had a shorter peak time and didn't won copa too. After Messi also carried Argentina to world Cup, and with his all other accomplishments absolutely surpassing Maradona, there isn't much argument for that. I love Maradona. He was amazing too, a true legend of the game, but now Messi is goat! The rankings released by most sport magazines are pretty accurate. Messi, Pele, Maradona. Top 3 in that order. The greatest to ever touch a football.
@@kunalsingh4418 I agree. Also let's not forget Maradona rigged games in Napoli with the Mafia.
Pelé still the greatest. 3 World Cups. Argentinian players still can’t surpass him. Maradona never did and Messi would need to win at least another World Cup to have a discussion.
He is the defination of God of football Messi 🐐
Truly, he is human , but he ones from another planet , like “super man”, genius only come around in our life times on few occasions, this is one of them!
Leonel Messi! ,
Thank you for being a wonderful man , father , husband , matador to football and a joy for me , my kids and family to what you have given and football to you
😘🙏🏻
Amen!
Messi is the best player all the time that I have already seen in my eyes .... good luck and congratulations Messi.👑🏆🐐😍❤️💞🙏.
Messi and Maradona for me are the greats got to watch both win a world cup
Football like all sports have revolutions and evolutions. First came the all around di stefano and surprised europe. Then pele show a level of skill at a young age not seen before and a strong body. Then came Cruyff with his total football revolution and change football tactically. Then maradona showed us a technique so exquisite many of us fell in love, new skills and a ball control that took football to another level. Then the brazilian era R10 R9 and many others brougth the joga bonito. Cr7 and messi put on incredible numbers while being consistent through the years. And in the case of messi he turned into a footballer with the playmaking of maradona, while scoring like pele and dribbling like the best making him the utlimate football attacker. Messi is the last evolution of a football player. Dont know what could be next...
GOAT without a doubt 🐐💯💪🏿⚽️🇯🇲
Diego, pele y Messi son distintas generaciones, así como fue distinto fútbol cuando jugában. Cada uno fue el mejor de sus generaciones y creo que por eso no se pueden comparar, el fútbol cambia permanentemente.
Si se destaca el nivel de leo con 35 años, una locura.
The 👑 of ⚽ Leo Messi 💪🐐 ❤️🌍
Messi is light years better than Pele and Maradona Messi has proven to be the best player in history. In a modern era of soccer. pele was the best at a prehistoric era of soccer.
Pelé is greater and better than Messi. Pelé was fast, strong, two footed, great scorer, great header, good free kick taker, great playmaker in a way that Messi is not. Pelé refounded football with his multiple skills, his plays, fisicality, professionalism, functions on the game... and he did it without having the technology and material that current players have.
So, Pelé is the GOAT.
Have many full matches have you watched Pele play? Don't be a nostalgic highlight merchant.
@@josesergiomoraes6166Messi is better at all those
The only fair comparison is with Diego but I grew up with Messi and he’s still the best in the world like he was in 2004-05
It matters a lot which era you play like before it was only a side job but now everyone is a pro and since kids all pros are specifically trained so Im sure Messi the 🐐 and also Ronaldo much better cause they humiliated these pros on a regular basis and consistently and rose above others for almost 2 decade so I don't think they can be replicated for sure Messi can't be replicated simply untouchable
The most beautiful things about MESSI,his record speaks
In club levels, country leval, compitition level AND world cup level no ONE had these records
YES no Pele,no Maradona taking in account
And recent play are no match for him too
Thank you bro! Clear understanding and he's 100% the GOAT!!!.
Did he just say that Messi stands next to Pele?!?!😂🤣💀Messi is better than pele!
Pele scored with School kids of brazzil😂
Pelé was better. Still the greatest. 3 World Cups and score his goals without freebies penalties.
@@PadrinoGambino most of the pele opponent are noob.
Yaaa there is only one goat ,why pele sidepart
@@PadrinoGambino pele play in a team full of superstars. He only won 2 wc, the other one his teammates did job for him
Owen said it all he is the perfect football player
I knew he was gonna be the greatest in 2006 during the World Cup
Besides being the best scorer, the best assistant, the best dribbler and the best playmaker, Lio has a very unique skill only one other player, Diego, can claim...
They have the best story telling. They don't just play football, they "write" it. They are football players that go beyond football, to a new dimensión of their own. They are EPIC.
In the name of Diego Fathers, the son Lio and Di Stefano Spirit. Olé!
Out of words to describe La'Pulga
King 👑 Leo
Guy has Most golden boots
most iffhs playmaker awards
most goals in a year in a season
most assists in a year in a season
Most international player of the tournament most league player of the tournament
, most champions league player of the tournament ( shared )
most goals in career finals
No debate
Started by winning youth world cup ended as world cup winner
It's not about people's opinions anymore... It's about the catholic truth : MESSI IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME AND ALWAYS WILL BE FOOTBALL'S NUMBER 1. All those who do not want to see that, will live in denial until they die
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Football was brutal back in the days, but currently Football rules and laws are getting tougher. It's even more difficult to score goals these days compared to the past, just because of the rules and technology.
Messi has so much to offer he's not just a tapin machine bruh😂
MESSI GÊNIO e o maior e melhor jogador da História
GOAT 🐐🇦🇷🏆👽
Messis life proved GOD is existing somewhere ❤
#Lionelmessilegend is all time greatest football player in the world, he is the best. 👍 💜❤️💕🌹 🇧🇩 #Bangladesh all the best 👍 #Lionelmessilegend.
Watch him this month and next month ...He is always happi around time of year Yeah
The Messi Era 😮
if Messi play for Argentina in the world cup 2026 he gonna be champions again
G.O.A.T. = JOY TO WATCH WEEK BY WEEK, MAGICAL DISPLAYS DAY IN DAY OUT, M.V.P. EVERYWHERE, GOLDEN BALL WINNER EVERYWHERE, TOP GOALSCORER & TOP ASSISTER EVERYWHERE. MOST TROPHIES AND AWARDS WON IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE SPORT. THAT'S WHAT THE DEFINITION OF G.O.A.T. IS
Messi won everything guys not just world cup, he won Copa America and gold in the Olympics. There is no trophy lacking in his cabinet
I enjoy watching football cuz of Messi.he brings joy sensation excitement. If Messi is not on the pitch i dont watch
Are these pundits? He is not the greatest player of this generation? What does that even mean? He is the greatest ever... Period
The best ever by far
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the only GOAT...mmmeeesssiii mmmmeesssiii mmeesssiii..🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
He's the football god 👑
GOAT
We know CR7 is a great goal scorer but Messi is the goat like if you agree
Messi is better
Also Danny Alves is a microscopic insignificant next to Messi
"Beat france" lol those words are like music to my ears
All these people talking about Pele Pele like shut up your just an angry Ronaldo fan who can’t admit that Messi Is the GOAT 🐐
There is No doubt!!
One goat one king forever Messi
Messi greatest player in the world
Goat Messi
When he's talking about how Messi lays back and observes the enemy and identify weaknesses seems a little like the strategy that Lebron adopts in game one of playoff series in the NBA. Both definitely at the top of the Cerebral part of their respective sports.
Messi is miles clear of any footballer. Sometimes it really made me think ehy people even argue about that, especially when they compare with cr7. I mean cr7 is definitely one of the greatest but no way he is even near to Messi level. Messi is simply the greatest and the best footballer ever. And this is coming from a person who started watching football because of Cristiano Ronaldo
I agree Messi he's the best ever
I’ve never had a debate on who the goat is. We all know who it is. It’s just the Ronaldo fan boys who don’t understand football
True and they still do the actors
exactly
We don't need experts, i can even explain it to u by a few words
If we added all the Goals of PK he generously and ego less he gave to his mates
The So many times he didn't care about Three hat.
Thats what makes him thr best.
YOU CAN'T MESSURE HIS KINDENESS
True🎉🎉🎉🎉 Messi magic
We so fortunate to have watched
Ronaldo and Messi are 2 of the greatest❤
The Best!¡ forever
Only deluded CR7 fans and PR machinery will disagree
The greatest of all time. Messi
It's not fair to compare different era's. But for this generation, he is the King. With all respect to CR7. You can't campare with the guy who scores as much goals as by far best scorer, and also gives tones of assist, main dribbler (by far) in his era, and in the peak was capable to get the ball in the middle of the peach, in a very static situation, and by himself just go and score a goal destroying everebody from one of the greates football team (Real Madrid) with super starts on each position in a Championship League Play-Offs.
3:03 What are you talking about man? Maradona's team was not leaving group stage or even winning a world cup without him. Maradona almost single-handedly win the world cup in 86, every goal that they scored came as a result of his touch. However, Messi is very accurate and is surely from another planet. Messi is perfect.
Literally the same applies to Argentina in 2022 without Messi
I DON´T SEE PENALDO´S WIFE OR SISTER OR MARADONA FANS IN SOCIAL MEDIA ANYMORE TALKING TRASH OF MESSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAHAHAHA DEBATE IS OVER, MESSI IS GOAT!
Pele cannot be compared to Messi 🤗🤗, Messi is better than Pele 💪💪
It's not a opinion anymore it's facts been that even before the world cup but the world cup was for the haters and doubters who only had that missing argument against Messi now with the world cup win it's facts Messi is THE 🐐💯🪄⚽️. Messi now plays just for extra stuff to add Messi completed football trophies stats wins awards longevity peak motm performances. All objective honest understanding football fans know Messi is the nr 1 footballer in history, the Best Goat by far. Only subjective C.Ronaldo fans trolls haters fanboys who don't understand the game will disagree even after the world cup and will never admit or accept that Messi is the Goat Best ever. But most importantly all or most true football fans know Messi stands alone at the top with the other Legends Icons Goats U can make a case for Pele Maradona but I go with Messi🐐💯🪄⚽️ Love Respect All The Legends Goats Icons
I no longer have time to argue with cr7 fans , I let them believe what they want to believe but we all know da truth
I ❤ ronaldo a lot but i ❤ messi more. Why? The details are explained in the video, is not about goals or trophies. Most of people who love messi like him for how he plays the game, statistics comes as 2nd reason.
Был великим,стал величайшим!!!
The GOAT👌
🐐🐐🐐🙌🙌🙌🙌
Whichever generation you compare with, let’s face it, no one could player better than Messi. I’ve seen players from Pele up till the current era.
Messi is the complete footballer
It’s two Copa Americas now “Add it to the chair”
Messi is the one and only goat 🐐 🫶♥️
Bach, Mozart or Beethoven?
Football is art.
We will never know.
Maldini, Pirlo, Zlatan, Lampard, Gerrard, Gattuso, Buffon, Capello, Van Persie, Sneijder, Cantona, Owen, Peter Crouch, Robben, Cafu, Cavani, Alan Shearer, Van Basten, Rooney, Figo, Riijkard, Bergkamp, Gullit, David Silva, Lahm, Deco, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Cech, R9, Dinho are just some of the names who has consistently pick Messi.
Players who played with Leo don't even bother with silly debates and i try not to include them above.
I'd even say at least 2/3 of all footballing legends be it players or coaches picks Messi and doubles down on that choice.
The debate is futile.
And the remaining 1/3 fail to pick between Pele and Maradona!
Muito obrigado seleção Angentina Messi estás de parabéns ao levar um prêmio de Best força força agora vamos levar Champion no psj
its not the stats which he has, its the way he did it, control and ability , flare on the ball
This guy will make you wonder for a moment about what you just watched if it’s true or your mind is playing pranks on you
People just can't accept the fact that Messi is the genius of the game as people talks about Einstein that's what Messi is end of story history is made in soccer and Messi did it gracefully and in his own style the 🐐 forever
Funny thing is every player would prefer a prime Keane, Zidane and Scholes in there team
Here we goat
Messi’s influence in WC is not as big as Maradona. Diego won 86 by himself 🏆 No lucky penalty shootout!