99-07 NBS Sierra {Silverado, Yukon, Tahoe, Suburban) 4 piston brake upgrade on a budget!
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- Installing 2019+ gm full-size truck 13.5" rotors and 4 piston brake calipers on my 99 GMC Sierra 1500. This brake upgrade can be done affordably and really makes a huge improvement in the trucks overall braking! I highly recommend doing this.
If you guys have any questions about doing this upgrade please lmk, I’ll try my best to help.
Did you only use the washer on top bolt only or also the lower bolt?
@@feliperuiz560 it takes a washer on both caliper bolts.
do you have the part numbers still
@@jackpasay8317 I don’t have the part numbers for the brake parts unfortunately because I bought them second hand, if you go on rock auto look for calipers, rotors and pads off a 2020 Silverado 1500.
What kind of brakes should I look for does any Brembo caliper fit?
Sweet I ordered the same brake lines been waiting for like a week and they haven't shipped yet but I'm glad I found these to see what other things to get
Man I thought the gmt900 on the 800 was a decent upgrade but this beats that shit like a caveman with a club starving and just found his dinner!! I was just looking at doing a better upgrade on my 02 z71 burb with 33's it's a bit heavy. Thanks for the video man I'm definitely ordering this right now!
It really is a big upgrade. Braking improved drastically.
This will work for 2007-2014 NBS GMT900 chassis as well. #FactSet.
Will this work on obs trucks 88-98 ? Changing my proportioning valve because I replaced the drums with discs and I would like a budget friendly swap for the front
I machined off the hump on my 4 pistons rotor and sanded down the whole caliper and painted it red also. I also ordered two white vinyl decals one for each side to put on the flat surface of the caliper that reads Harley Davidson. I then clear-coated the decal to keep it clean and from coming off.
Nice, should look great 👍🏽
When you guys say you machine the caliper, do you actually have a machinist remove the hump or do you just take a grinder or flap disc to the caliper yourself? Just curious, I plan on doing this too.
@@eduardovallejo4761 I had a machinist do it so that it’ll come out perfectly flat. A grinder will work you just won’t end up with as nice of a finish.
@@eduardovallejo4761 I have a milling machine and milled off the humps. Then sanded the whole caliper with a flap disc till it was smooth the painted it with caliper paint and then put my own white sticker on the flat surface. Some put Brimbo I put Harley Davidson on it then clear coated the whole caliper.
@@eduardovallejo4761 If you don't have or want to machine them a grinder would be a quick fix but a better finish would a benchtop wheel/ belt sander and could make a smooth finish with fine grit for the finish...🤙
I did the 07 to 14 brake front brake components swap on my 04 Escalade. Direct bolt on.
07-14??
Here’s the part numbers for the calipers
13536579
13536580
For pads and rotors I just bought those from rock auto. As of today one of the calipers is back ordered at least at summit.
Thanks for posting the part numbers. Couple guys have asked and I didn’t have the answer since I got all my stuff used.
@@REDRUMRx7 it’s all good I just ordered all the parts to do this as well hopefully this helps someone
curious what pads and rotors you ordered? also thanks for these part numbers
Thanks boss 💪
I thought I had a sticking caliper on my tahoe ended up being a check valving hose. Learned that after 120 dollar caliper set for the front lol .
Yea mine may have been the hose, I’m not really sure because I changed both items at the same time.
Appreciate this! Definitely gomna do this on my 04 crew!!! Sub to this man!
Thanks 🙏🏽
Just earned a new sub bro. I love gmt800 content
Thanks man, appreciate that 💪🏼
@@REDRUMRx7 question could I get away with using a 13 inch rotor? Aot of websites say 2019 and 2020 silverados are compatible with 13 rotors so not sure why a 13 rotor wouldn't be able to work 🤷🏾♂️
@@bkgeneral1 You prolly could.
Thanks, seen a few videos on this and mty 02 Avalanche totally needs better brakes. I am running 18 Suburban wheels look kinda similar to those, so I guess I'll order the spacers too, thanks for tip.
No problem, glad to help. 👍🏼
@ Scott Philbrook did you do the upgrade?
@@1ruckus1 its been crazy getting the parts! Its been nearly 2 months & just got the last part a caliper Monday but I've been visiting folks and haven't installed or attempted to install yet!
Hell yea. I had no idea 👍
Very good upgrade for not a ton of money.
Any issues now that time has passed? Also do you know if they clear 17 rims? Thanks 🙏
They’ll clear with some 17’s but not all. I no longer own this truck but the current owner hasn’t had any issues with the brakes afaik.
Great video brother man
Thanks for the compliment. 💪🏼
Great video
What advice do you have to convert my ‘97 Tahoe to fit the larger rotor and 4 piston caliper on the front of my car?
Thank you.
Joe
Hey Joe, unfortunately I have no experience with swapping these to the obs platform. If it were me I would first try to install nbs spindles. If the nbs spindles and hubs will work then these brakes will install just like in the video.
dope vlog! want to do this as well would be sick if anyone knows the currrnt part numbers to pull this off on a 04 silverado 🙏🏽
I watched a lot of these. Seems it does not increase stopping power but decreases chances of overheating and thus losing braking.
It was a very noticeable increase in stopping power going to this from the 99 brakes.
Thanks
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Any idea if this will work on a 2011 escalade?
Yea it should be the same.
Good stuff bro... thanks!
No problem! Glad it helped you out.
I still haven't seen powder coated calipers like these. I actually have a 2020 silverado.
Mine were painted but my friend has a set on his truck that are powdercoated in orange.
Lots of great info here. I have the exact same rims on my 04 Silverado. I do have rough country 3” lift spindles. Are your spindles OEM? That aside do you think if you had not machined the face of the caliper and just cut the small corners that it hit, the rims would clear without a spacer? Thanks!
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Dope upgrade bro. Just subscribed! Do you have to change the brake line to connect to the new caliper or you just did it.
Got me a lowing kit bought 18 in wheels factory
will this conversion work on a 2013 silverado 1500? I cannot keep good brakes on mine living in ATL. the traffic here murders them even with slotted and drilled. I'm changing brakes almost every year.
Yes it should, installing them on your 2013 should be the same as what I did in this video.
That brake hose kit doesn't fit my 07 suburban, my hardline has a larger diameter fitting
bro did u install the brake dust shield?
I left the original ones. They had clearance and covered the majority of the rotor so I just left them.
Nice job!!
Great information, did you end up using the dust shields and does that dealer have more of those 4 piston caliper packages available? Thank you good job.
I didn’t end up using the dust shield but the originals work well, at the moment I don’t know of any other brake packages for sale, sorry.
By any chance, do you know any chance whats the minimum diameter wheel able to run with these calipers?
Some of those 2020 trucks come with steel 17” wheels so I assume some 17’s will work depending on the pad.
My stock 2000 Sierra Z71 16" wheels won't work with the rotor and caliper upgrade, right?
I don’t believe it will. The only way it might work at all is if you have very large wheel spacers. I had to put small spacers even with my 18” z71 wheels.
Are these wheels 18’s?
Yes, Oem 18” wheels from a 2017 z71 silverado.
Do you think the 1/4 inch wheel spacers clear the calipers without remove material on the caliper?
It’s all gonna depend on the type of wheel you have. Some wheels will fit without even using the spacer.
I have the 5 split spoke wheels on my 2004 Z-71, will these fit without a lot of machining?
With a wheel spacer you shouldn’t have to Machine anything.
What’s the part numbers or number for the stainless steel brake lines?
So what exactly did the pads rotors and calipers come from? Then just get the hoses to match them? Got a 99 Tahoe gonna do a master cylinder upgrade soon this would be great to do at same time let me no thanks!!
Mine came specifically from a 2021 GMC Yukon, any 2019+ 1500 truck has the same brakes though. You can get them off anything from a Silverado to an Escalade. The original 99 hoses will work fine.
Hello question did you use two washers for each sides or one washer? Because another guy use the same washers he use two for each sides
Hi. I used 1 washer for each. Truck has been riding around like that for over a year and everything has been great.
what bolts did you use as the hardware to connect the break caliper ?
Does the abs still work fine or on hard braking? Heard something about that happening but not sure
So far so good. I’ve been daily driving on this setup for right around a year now.
Do you know the offest on the wheels? Im on 24x10s 30offset. I want to know if im going to have any issues
No I’m sorry I don’t know the offset. If you want to search it up, the wheels are off a 2017 z71
I have a 2018 GMC sierra and a 2006 GMC yukon. I wonder if I can do this upgrade to the 2018 and then put the larger dual piston calipers on the 2006? Of course I'd need the 2007+ rotors and caliper brackets. I guess the real question is - are the 2018 calipers the same all the way back to 2007?
I’ve never tried it but I do believe it’ll work.
What size wheels r those on ur truck?
I have 18 inch wheels i hope they work on that size wheels.
Thanks.
Those wheels are 18’s
How much would need to machined off the caliper to fit properly without spacer?
It will vary depending on your wheels. Some wheels won’t require any modifications at all.
Cool setup. I have an NNBS and did the NBS rear dual piston swap on it. Really easy to find and cheapish. Got mine at the junkyard. What rear brakes do you have?
I have the original rear brakes still. I plan to change to the 1320wheels rear brake conversion so that I could fit a 15” drag wheel. At the moment I have a set of 16” wheels I use for racing but there aren’t a lot of tire options available in 16”.
@@REDRUMRx7 oh okay the dual pistons won’t work for you then lol I think it’s 17” min
@@michaelhernandez1398 yea I’ve looked into it before. It’d be a cool upgrade if it weren’t for the fact that I’d like the ability to fit a drag wheel.
I have these exact wheels on my 02 z71, you shaved the casting which looks awesome, but if I left them as is, and used the 6mm spacer, do you think I’d be okay clearing the casting? I have these in my bedroom ready to install lol
Yea I think it would fit as long as you use the spacers.
@@REDRUMRx7 awesome buddy thanks for the reply. Doing this swap to my wife’s 07 Tahoe tonight, but she’s running 22” trail boss replicas and I think her wheel design were meant for these brakes so I’m hoping no issues
Have you had any problems with the calipers being machined down?
None at all.
My truck is the z71 so I have 4wd so if I get the rotors for a 4wd would they fit also
I don’t know for sure but I would think so.
Do you think without gettin it machined it would have cleared with wheel spacers ?
Yes. At least with these wheels. Every set of wheels is gonna be a little different
Hey man, what about the rear brakes, did you upgrade those? If not why?
I didn’t do anything to the rear because I wanted to be able to fit drag wheels.
Any idea if this would work on an 04 2500hd? I'm sure I'd need 8 lug rotors, but besides that?
The 2500’s use larger brakes then the 1500’s so I’m not sure if the caliper mounting location would match up.
How much did that front conversation run you for?(everything)...and was it direct bolt on? How about the caliper braket carrier?
Probably around $600 if you can find the calipers used
Did you have any issues grinding that ridge off the calipers?
Nope. Set it up on an overhead mill at work and knocked that ridge right off it.
Do I need to use the dust shield? Or can I use stock one
@@kingsman3506 I used the stock one.
@@REDRUMRx7 thanks for replying brotha
@@kingsman3506 no problem man. Good luck with your project 👍🏽
Hey brother great video. I know it was posted 3 years ago but hopefully you’ll see this. I read thru every comment on this video and I didn’t see where anyone had asked but what caliper bracket bolts did you use? Did you just use the factory caliper bracket bolts that came on that truck originally for the new calipers or was a different bracket bolt needed?
It’s been a while so my memory isn’t exactly clear on this but I’m pretty certain that I used the original caliper bolts.
@@REDRUMRx7 hey man I appreciate you getting back to me. I just finished installing factory take off 4 piston calipers, rotors, pads, and brake hoses off a 2024 Sierra Denali with 4 miles on the odometer this morning on my Yukon. What an amazing upgrade in braking power that is. So glad I did that swap since I’m on 40s and it takes quite a bit to get that big girl stopped lol
@@Big-kon yea those 4 piston brakes are a real nice upgrade. On my new truck which is a 2014 rcsb silverado I just recently installed the 6 piston brembo setup from an escalade V. The rotors are 16.2”. This truck stops crazy now.
Did you test if this plays well with ABS? I don't know thats why I'm asking. Looks like a killer good setup.
So far so good, I’ve put roughly 1500 miles on it so far and everything is fine with abs. It’s definitely an upgrade worth doing.
The guy that first posted this upgrade on Facebook has been using them for 10k no issues
Will those calipers and brake hoses work on an 05 avalanche 2wd?
I haven’t personally tried that but based off my experience with the gmt800 platform I’d say it should all work just fine on your avalanche 1500 2wd.
@@REDRUMRx7 I appreciate the quick response man I pulled the trigger and ordered the calipers I’m confident it’ll work also what brake lines are you using?
@@Treadondeez they’re some steel braided lines from russel, in the video I show the part number.
Hey bud, do you know if the calipers will fit a 2500 HD
Can’t say for sure since I haven’t tried it but I don’t believe it would work.
How did you machine the ridge off the calipers? Or did you take it somewhere, if so how much was it?
At my job we have a machine shop and we did it on an overhead mill.
REDRUM Rx7 do you think I could use a grinder and do the same thing?
@@smalliebigs6784 yea for sure. A grinder and a flap disk would do the job pretty easily.
REDRUM Rx7 alright man thanks for the help I just managed to get some calipers off eBay and liked how they liked with out the ridge, new sub!!
@@smalliebigs6784 no problem man, glad to help. Thanks for the sub. 👍🏼
If I go to the auto store for the 4 piston caliper replacement what vehicle should ask for? For this conversion
2019 + silverado 1500
Nice video boss, what kind of paint did you use to paint the calipers ?
Thanks! I used duplicolor caliper paint that I got at advance auto parts.
Are the calipers aluminum or steel? Would prefer to not have to paint them, but if they are steel- don't like the rust
The calipers are steel
@@REDRUMRx7 Thx
Hey man! Thanks for all the info! I bought them... But don't fit my wheels. Are those wheels have 17's?
cool mod do you know if this would work on my 04 Cadillac escalade esv?
Yea it should be the same process for your escalade.
@@REDRUMRx7 okay awesome i think it being a ESV it would improve the braking by a lot ehh?
Earned my subscription man, definitely going to do this upgrade as soon as I can find somewhere with the calipers in stock. Did you have to change the master cylinder or anything else in the system or was it good to go with just the caliper, rotor, and brake hoses and the washers to space the caliper?
Same master worked fine. Braking felt noticeably better.
Anyone know if calipers from a 2121 Escalade would work on a 2005 Suburban?
Yes it would work fine. You’ll also want the 2021 rotors. Follow the instructions on this video.
What size are your stock wheels thinking about upgrading my 06 Yukon Denali but I’ve got the stock 17’s not 20’s
My wheels are 18”
@@REDRUMRx7 thank you for a speedy response and great video
@@thatmdguy4557 no problem. Glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏼
Are those 17 or 18 inch wheels? Thank you.
These are 18” wheels.
Is there anything else that you had to do in order to get the calipers to work beyond machining the front of the caliper down and using the 1/2" washers to space the caliper out? How much did you end up machining off the front? Is your brake booster hydroboost or a vacuum boosted?
Great video by the way!
That’s all I did. On the front of the caliper I only machined enough to remove the hump, this is only required with certain wheels. My booster is a standard vacuum booster. Thanks for the compliment 👍🏼
Are those 18" wheels or 17"? Thank you.
What shop u take the calipers to get them grind bro?
I did it at my job but any machine shop with an overhead mill could do it.
What did you do with the brake wear sensor? And did the dust shields work? Looking forward to installing mine
The 2020 dust shields did not work but the 99 ones did so I left them on. My 99 truck doesn’t use brake wear sensors so I didn’t have to worry about that. The 2020 pads have a slot to clip a brake wear sensor into though so I don’t think you’ll have an issue with that.
Could we get some part numbers for the brake callipers
If you dig through the comments, another viewer listed all the part numbers.
Got a 02 avalanche i think it will work? Just wanted to know, if it just does away with the factory caliper bracket and just bolts where it was originally?
It should definitely work and yes it does eliminate the original bracket and bolt in where the bracket went.
Thank you so much for the answer and your video keep up the great work.
@@nathanwilson8376 no problem. Glad you enjoyed it. 👍🏼
@@REDRUMRx7 is there a difference between the passenger and driver caliper? can I install on either side for the nbs? Or are they specifically for one side
@@ivanjimenez8868 just make sure the bleeder fitting is facing up.
@RedRum Rx7
Stock rims/offset and at least what, 17” rims?
Probably some 17’s will fit depending on the design. My 18’s required a small spacer.
What’s your email I can contact you there for further info please!
What about the rears?
What size rim necessary?
I noticed it's a 1500 in the video, Can this be done with the 2500 hd's as well ?
I honestly couldn’t tell you and don’t want to give you false information.
@@REDRUMRx7 appreciate the honesty man. Awesome video btw man
@@Theskenification thanks, glad you liked it 👍🏼
Can this be done on the 07-13 ???
I believe it works the same for that body style as well but I haven’t personally tried it.
I’m running 17”x8.5 -10 on my gmt-800. Do you know the wheel specs on the 2020 17” Steelies they tuck these under?
No Im sorry, I know they’re available with the 17” steelies but unfortunately I do not know the specs.
@@REDRUMRx7 My work truck has these brakes under the steelies, I might do an experiment tomorrow….you know, for science.
@@philphish1643 I’m all for science lol. Does your work truck have the 7 spoke aluminum spare? I’m trying to verify if those fit over the front brakes. I know some trucks have them and some have steel spare.
@@REDRUMRx7 I’ll verify in the morning. It’s a 2021 1500 Chevy stripped down.
@@REDRUMRx7 my work truck has a full sized 17” steelie as the spare
Those brakes are massive! Great job! I didn't catch whether your 2017 rims are 17" or 18"?
Thanks, my wheels are 18”.
@@REDRUMRx7 at least I have to run 19 or 20 to run those right?
@@hugo3769 they fit with my 18’s using small spacer.
i need to know about the spring you added to the shock
i have a huge system in my tahoe and its right at 7000lbs
I haven’t added any extra springs. The truck just has standard style suspension with a lowering kit.
@@REDRUMRx7 hmmm, must be apart of the lowering kit then, i dont see that coming stock on an 05 tahoe
@@judgement069 is yours 4x4? The 4x4 trucks have different front suspension. They use a torsion bar instead of a coil spring.
@@REDRUMRx7 no its rwd but i do have the torsion bar
Would you have the part number for the brake callipers
Someone posted all the part numbers in the comments.
Are your rear brakes rotors or drums. Mine are drums not sure if that matters
This truck had the disk rear ended. All the 99-02 trucks were rear disk. It shouldn’t make a difference though.
@@REDRUMRx7 ok thank you I will try to change them as soon as I can
Mine are drums too did you ever change them, if so did you do this same process
@@74zepol27 I have not don’t done it yet I’m still waiting for parts I will get them on Friday. Hope to upgrade brakes next week I will let you know how it works
Was that an 18" wheel? Been wanting to do this but read 20s are needed thanks in advanced
Yea these are 18” z71 wheels.
Probably need to shave the caliper down flat like you did too right ? Thanks for responding
@@walkertexas6405 i don’t think so. With that little 1/4” spacer alone it looks like there’s plenty of room, they do look a lot better machined flat thought
So will they clear all GM factory 20s? Or just certain designs? Texas Edition? SS? 07 Tahoe?
@@MoneyManHolmes couldn’t tell you for sure. I’ve only tried them with these wheels in the vid.
Do you got the part number for does calipers
Search through the comments and you’ll find them. It’s been posted a couple times.
So now If you have to buy brakes you have to ask for a 19+ GM brakes?
Yes that’s right.
Let's see it
See what?
Finished work
@@nickonickster1 3:15 in the video.
Ok cool..my bad
I thought an 07 calipers and rotors and pads were just as good especially since there is no modding or anything extra that you have to do? Am I wrong? Nice video though.
The 07 brakes are 2 piston and this is 4 piston. You get more stopping power with this setup.
What's the part no. For the dust shields
The original ones work fine. I didn’t use the 2019+ dust shields.
Can I do this on a 2002 chevy suburban 1500?
Yes you can.
Does anyone know if this swap would work on the rear?
I was wondering this same thing but the conclusion is kinda... no. The rear end is a drum rotor combo thats not made to the bigger size rotor because the new trucks use a parking brake in the caliper. However I would assume if you wanted to pay the extra cost to do a rear drum delete, hopefully the rotors clear the rear axle, and with a new splash shield surely the rear should work fine and be done the same as the front with the washers and you shouldn't have an issue.
But there's so much that has to be "perfect" or you'll be doing some serious modifications that I don't see being worth it unless you've got like an 800 hp build and need it to stop.... 😂😂
Thks for the video
No problem, glad it helped.
@@REDRUMRx7 👍
I bought all the parts from the dealer $800.00
Will this work with 14 inch rotors if I use these calipers?
Which 14” rotors are you trying to use?
@@REDRUMRx7 they are Baer rotors
@@kreaselv4534 it might fit. Worth trying.
@@kreaselv4534 sis it work and have a link?
Is the brake line the same for both sides? I have this set up it works great 👍🏼
Yea the brake line is the same on both sides.
@REDRUMRX7 Brake line is specific for your truck or for caliper
Doing same upgrade on 07 Yukon
Wanna add SS brake line ..
If you were towing a lot I could see going to that big heavy brake upgrade....if not you are slowing it down !
I needed 2 washers top and bottom and i needed 1" spacer for my 2020 wheels weird
Yea that’s strange. All the 2020’s come with these brakes, you’d think that 2020 wheels would fit no problem.
@@REDRUMRx7 correction i needed 3 top and bottom but i found out the4wd/awd is thinner than 2wd caliper bracket
@@American-Afrikan ooh that makes sense. I only have experience doing it on this 2wd truck.
Very good video 👍👍What is the store name whre you find all that parts?
I got the brake parts used on Facebook marketplace. The brake lines I got from Amazon and the spacers I got from advance auto parts
Would this set up work for a 2003 Tahoe...?
Yea it definitely should
What size rims do you have?
@@XxSARG64xX those are 18” wheels.
Since you used 2019-2020 calipers did you use the 14"rotor?
I used the 2020 rotor which I believe is 13.5” but I didn’t measure it.
@@REDRUMRx7 yea it looks like it on the video,but from what i researched after 2010 it went to 14"
@@JoseContreras-mv5yz if that’s the case then these must be 14”
@@REDRUMRx7 you have a part# for the rotors?
@@JoseContreras-mv5yz no Im sorry. Just look them up on rock auto for a 2020 silverado 1500.