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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2019
- An adventurer and exercise physiologist, Haley Crofut led an active life of snowboarding, mountain biking and fitness training. After she was diagnosed at age 29 with degenerative disc disease - a disorder that often accompanies aging - Haley turned to orthopedic surgeon Ashvin Patel, MD, for relief from the pain. Haley shares her story and explains how total lumbar disc replacement surgery restored her quality of life. Learn more at smh.com/ortho.
Chronic back pain ruint my life and NOBODY THAT HASNT BEEN THROUGH IT UNDERSTANDS. If your going through the pain this has put me through then you truly have my respect. This shit is a living hell
U have no idea what I go thru.....to be honest wuth u if it wasn't for my faith in Jesus Christ I would have lost my mind....but he is my strength when I am weak....I hope ur feeling better buddy....I will think of u when I pray.
Feel u
I am 19 and i would lift weights and do sports I ruined my back by ego lifting and over working but overtime killed my back and its always my lower back. I hurt everyday and the job I am on i push tires on transit vans for ford and doing that hurts. Shit sucks.
@@fenrisgaming4453 look up Eric Goodman probably the best person I've been able to find on this matter watch his 12 minute foundation video got 8.3M views and do it..this exercise immediately helps with sciatica and strengthen back.
As you practice the exercises you will notice your back pain will get better day after day been doing it two weeks now..the best thing I jave found on the matter
I immediately started crying when she did because I understand exactly what she is saying. I have sever L5/S1 disc degeneration, to the point that it is bone on bone. Displaced disc material is pushing on the nerves on both sides, causing severe sciatic pain down both legs. I too was active and enjoyed working out, which I can no longer do, so I know what it is to feel like you are no longer yourself. That said, I am still very apprehensive about this surgery. I have never had surgery of any kind and something this invasive absolutely terrifies me because of everything that can go wrong.
I cried as well cause I’m feeling pain for so long. I just want this to be over
@@user-rx5kr7xr2z A lot has changed since I made that comment. I am now nearly pain free WITHOUT SURGERY. My pain has gone from 9 out of 10 down to 2 or 3 out of 10.
I use an inversion table for 10 min everyday to decompress my spine, I do a lot of stretching and core strengthening exercises everyday, and I also take supplements to help with nerve healing (B Complex, R-lipoic acid, Acetyl-L-carnitine, N-acetyl cysteine, turmeric/curcumin, fish oil. I am amazed at how much these things have reduced my pain. Yes, it is a lot to do, but if you devote just 45-60 min a day to stretching and core strengthening, it absolutely will help...and definitely try the supplements! They really do help and they provide many other health benefits besides just nerve healing.
Try red light therapy, vit C, D,E,B, Collagen and Keratin
I am really sorry about it. In fact, I am exactly at the same point, I have never been under any kind of surgery and it terrifies me. So… my neurosurgeon is being patient with me and told me to try some specific movements and exercise… I think he is waiting for me to be ready. I guess for them, that operate on brains and so on, this is just routine… one thing that helps me is thinking about how many people I know has been through a major back surgery and everything went well… may we have the courage and strength to take the best decisions for us wether this means surgery or not (sorry for my English, I am Spanish).
I have the same degenerative disc she has. I had a surgery set at mayo clinic after going to multiple Dr's and pain clinics. However my insurance denied my surgery 3 times. Living with this pain for two years I've wanted to take my own life 1000 times. My wife has suffered through this process as well. Locally we have a new surgeon who agrees that my disc is shot as well and wants to do a disc replacement and I'm hopeful for recovery and praying uhc stops screwing me around. I'm 46 very active and just want to live and get back to work. Thanks for your story
Have you had it?
Update?
I’ve have this. Lost my job in the military and police department because of it. Currently getting ready for treatment. Wish me luck
I hope it lasts a lifetime for you. If you can post updates it would be helpful.
Haley is still doing well. Thank you!
3 weeks post op, same disc and surgery. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I was racing bikes and had to completely stop since worsening the injury 3 years ago. Wished had done it then. Do not wait people
Tell that to tiger woods
How are you now? I have 3 bulging disc and I'm nervous about this. I workout all the time and want to continue after.
I’m great. The disc replacement was a very quick recovery. Im dealing with the consequences of waiting so long but hey the surgery advanced quite a bit since 2006.
Very happy I get with a Neurosurgeon. The approach was retro peritoneal and no fixation.
@@cristelaymerich Wow thank you, I just had a new MRI 2 days ago, I was so upset because it was got a lot worse and need a few disc replaced. But I feel better with your comment. Thanks for the quick reply. Do you run still and do other exercises?
Just walking, for now, leisurely cycling and swimming. Focus on recovery. Good luck with your surgery.
Had a microdisectomy 11 years ago at the age of 21. Injured it playing basketball and it was pinching the nerves in my left leg and making my entire leg twitch non stop. Since then it flares up once or twice a year. I’m currently in a flare up right now and I’m losing strength in my leg for the first time ever and the nerve is being pinched again..... watching this video gave me more confidence on a more permanent fix so I can stop waiting for the next flare up or permanent damage.
I want this surgery so much. They just keep telling me to do physical therapy and shoving pills at me. I hate taking the pills. I do the therapy every other day and have been for months now. I can only sleep a few hours at a time before I wake up with excruciating pain in my back, hips, legs, and feet. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.
I so wish for this procedure, its been 7 years of pain and misery. Its so awesome to see your journey and the wonderful transformation
Thank you for sharing your story. I found it very inspirational!
I’m 32 and about to see my surgeon again to give the go ahead with an artificial disc replacement for the same L5 S1 problem, I’m scared as hell and put it off for as long as I can out of fear but seeing this success story has made up my mind to go for it, I love bodybuilding and fitness and just want my life back, I really hope I get the same result as you Haley
We wish you a smooth and speedy recovery!
How much will it cost? Or via NHS?
@@SMHCS hola cual es el costo aproximado?
Hello! I hope you’re doing well ! I’m going through the same situation plzzzzz share your experience how it feels after
How did it go man?
Thrilled for her.❤️🙏
This video made me start planning for my L4 ADR surgery this November/December. I have hope again.
This is my story also...the tears...I get it...
So happy for you
I can totally relate, everything you went through I went through the same 18 years ago.Unfortunately I haven't had mine fixed, I've just gone through the pain and physio three times a week but it never goes away.
I’m an Australian who has been residing in Japan for 25 years, they don’t do this procedure in Japan, no idea why not.
I was quoted $80,000 in most countries I enquired about doing it as I had/havethe same disc degeneration.
I'm so happy for you young lady ☺️ Live life to the full
I read from other video, in australia there are 2 good surgeon that can help. Dr Matthew Scoot Young and Dr Timothy Steel. I am from Indonesia and Australia is the closest i can go for this treatment
Hits home!! 22 years old just had this surgery. Pretty sure my injury was due to football around 18yrs old. 1st year was just irritation, 2nd was worse and 3rd yr of pain I walked with a constant limp, couldn’t sit, sleep hardly, and sneezing or coughing would almost send me to the ground. I’m almost 4 weeks into my recovery post surgery and getting more mobile.. Can’t wait to see the end result. Thanks for sharing
I feel you, about everyday being in pain. We can workout feel great but we will be hit later with harder pain. But we can’t stop because if we get unhealthy gain access weight then the pain intensifies.
This is inspiring.
Exactly
Congratulations Haley! I am considering the same thing. Chronic pain and so depressed. Are u still feeling well? 💕
I feel this so much I have my surgery for it this Wednesday I have felt this pain for 5 years and it is finally getting fixed I feel her pain no one understands the pain till you have gone through it as soon as she cried from the pain that was me describing it to every doctor and finally found a doctor that’s not just putting me off to do shots that don’t work I’m so excited to feel better!!! This pain messes you up emotionally and mentally.
How are you doing now? I have my Surgery appointment on in two weeks and I am still afraid that my situation my ger worse instead of better. I appreciate if you can respond. Thanks
You guys in the USA are lucky to have these advancements most places in Canada had nothing.
Come on down
Austria and France nothing too
Pros and cons of having privatized healthcare 🤷🏻♂️
@@MP_3122 Literally has nothing to do with that. The US has more people in general and more that have suffered this problem therefore this particular country handles it better. Go to countries in Africa and their doctors are vastly better at disease and virus control/prevention than the US' doctors are. There's almost no real benefit to having privatized healthcare. It causes vastly more harm than good.
@@BigAssNigga311 bro disc degeneration is an incredibly common issue and there’s plenty of people in Canada lol. It’s ok to give the US credit every now and then. I’m not really the biggest fan of privatized healthcare but I do believe it promotes growth in the healthcare sector due to financial motivation.
I am 32 and I've suffered from lumbar pain due to herniation and degeneration that started when I was 12. I fell off of a roof 4 years ago and it nearly broke me. I am a shadow of my former self. But, I am finally having disc replacement surgery next month. I'm anxious, scared, and excited to get my life back. Thank you for sharing your story! It gives me hope!
any updates?
Any success?
How's life?
I’m getting a disc replacement next month , Dr told me I was too young for the surgery but I can’t take the pain any longer so i told him I want to replace my disc
@@asapalex5546 how are you doing?
I'm so happy for you.
I feel the same way currently, I was involved in a car accident and injured my lumbar area and my neck, hopefully getting them replaced soon. I feel so weak and in pain, and the damage makes my life so hard.
I am sorry to hear that: the same thing, Jon. I am a personal trainer. I had an accident at my workplace, then, later on, I found out that I had L5S1 disc degeneration! I am currently in such pain right now! The only thing I can do is just crying man. I am conceding getting surgery soon. I am praying for you as well; I totally feel your pain.
@@johnharris6944 Going thru it myself right now.....we have to have faith in Jesus Christ...he created this earth.....he can do ANYTHING!!!! I WILL PRAY FOR U GUYS! I ALSO AM IN ALOT OF PAIN.
I never usually comment but I’ll share my story since when my disc injury happened I turned to TH-cam and found some stories helpful.
I am 35 yr old professional athlete. My injury I believe happened over time. A number of things probably contributed, maybe not getting the right nutrition for the amount of strenuous working out, not warming up or warming down properly, many movements from basketball that tax the body. Two practices a day plus traveling on buses and planes. We lift weights throughout the week as well.
It begins for me (I think) with an SI joint problem, core instability. It caused back pain, I went to therapy and it became better. But then I went into the season again pushing harder for a longer time. The back pain went away and I thought it was getting better. Instead of getting better my back went numb and my legs began to feel weaker. The right leg specifically. So that summer I went to train harder thinking my legs just needed to become stronger. Mistake.
Before the season started, one particular workout I twisted my right knee. I knew it felt off but I couldn’t really feel the pain for the leg was partially numb. I got to my team and was treated for the knee. It started to get better. I was having some inner ankle pain and hip pain maybe for months now as well but thought it was unrelated. (With sports were always banged up so we get treated often). I have seen 3 physiotherapist who diagnosed with piriformis syndrome. (I think some had an idea of a herniated disc but didn’t want to say since the team I played for there are well known).
Anyways fast forward 2 1/2 months on a game day. I felt a pressure in my right leg and could not stand for long. After this day I spent 3 weeks in the bed not being able to care for myself or stand for more than 10 seconds. I had to crawl backward to get to the bathroom and shower on the floor. Miserable. All my teammates came to visit me and give me encouragement but it hurt them to see me this way since I sometimes have a tough persona. I got an mri and was diagnosed with L5 S1 extrusion, and L4-l5 disc bulge.
It’s 6 am I’ll finish the post later today to put some of the questions I wondered for over a year I think I have found some answers to.
Interesting and thank God you don’t have pain how is this different from other spinal disc replacement surgeries?
I'm diagnosed the past February I'm scare but GOD stay with me
I need to get this surgery
Im 39 3 years ago I had microfisceptomy, 3 mounts ago injured and pain back again,can’t walk life stopped.
Just had l4-s1 disc replacement, I’m 1 month, And it’s getting better.
Any update?
Any update?
I'm happy for you God bless you
I’m 29 and highly active as well. I was just recommended to have a disc replacement in the cervical spine and this is very helpful.
We are glad you found this helpful. Wishing you a smooth and speedy recovery.
SMHCS does it hurt the recovery ?
I went through same hell 😪
Dr. Patel will be assisting my disc replacement surgery in December. I’m looking forward to finally complete this. I am currently preparing myself for surgery by going on a strict diet and moving as much as possible. Doing everything I can to make sure I heal quickly and get back to a normal life.
Howz now
@@Expert_Advice My insurance company denied my surgery the day of. They are saying it is investigational. Dr. Patel is trying to help me overturn the denial.
@@kimbonny5473 good 🤞
How are you? Any luck?
@@AlphaFitz Dr. Patel stated he had no other ways to help me after my insurance denied my surgery. I have BCBS and appealed twice to get the surgery back on but it was denied. I am still suffering symptoms and back again in physical therapy.
Every that tells you how to fix it has never gone through anything like this before.
Hi Dr. Patel - what does this treatment cost, please?
I feel you , 😢 that what I feel like !
Is there an update on Haley's case?
I had a sequestrated disk and the hospital only removed the broken piece but didn't replace it with an artificial disk?
Had microdiscectomy on one side of l4-l5 five years ago for heavy sciatica on the left leg and couldn't straighten my back out. Since that time I would have 1-2 flareups a year which usually took about 1-2 months of ibuprofen or prednisone to bring down and then I was fine again. This year I had a flare up and it hasn't gone away but instead is giving me the same symptoms on the opposite side. Even worse pain across my hip and constant pain even when laying down. I developed a DVT clot in my leg that went to my lungs and almost took me out. Its theorized that my reduction in activity due to the back/leg pain may have been a contributing factor. Now that i am on blood thinners I can't take ibuprofen/naproxen and Tylenol is just not cutting it so basically I am stuck in pain. I am guessing they won't do surgery until I get to around the 6 month time from my pulmonary embolism. Going to get a MRI soon and get the ball rolling to see what can be done. Contemplating steroid injections in the back. I get some type of pop in my body now when I walk relating to that side and I am not sure if that is in my hip or in the back. It definitely gives you a shorter trigger point when you are already in pain. Trying to stay positive. Both my father and brother had back issues as well so seems to be hereditary. I am healthy and active otherwise at age 47 but now trying to cut some weight at 237 lbs.
I wish to know how endurable that moving polyethylene part is?!
I'm 22. Been having a lower back disc since 2014. It's ain't getting any better ,whatever I try. I need a healing miracle. From the looks of it, a surgery is not the best option.
Trouble is Medicine has traditionally taken the shotgun approach with laminectomies and fusions. It's more specific now, but I'm not seeing enough info from years post op to convince me yet either.
Alslamu Alikum, what is the type of prostheses used in this surgery? is it mobi-c as well?
Where is this hospital? I need a miracle like her.
How much does this operation cost?
I'm in the same situation. Going to get a second opinion. L5S1 has degenerated but the rest of my spine looks great according to the surgeon but he's recommending fusion. Didn't even mention disk replacement therapy.
Dont go for fusion. It reduces mobility and causes osteophyte formation
I'm 23 with 4 disks crushed. I have degenerative disk disease and I am looking into the results of this procedure.
It's so expensive though.
Hey I have the same problem at 26, can u please share your problem in detail?
Is this type of surgery recommended for a 65 year old person with l4 l5 and l5 s1 herniation????
I had a really big hernia on my L4-L5. Got a micro-disectomy but still have too much pain (not nearly as much though). Doctor said my disc is probably too thin to handle the weight it needs to hold. Guess I'm going to get one of these
Hi did you get your ADA
Can you go back to squatting and deadlifting heavy once you recover from this surgery?
Is this an option for me, even though I’ve had 2 microdiscectomies at the L5S1?
Lifting heavy weights will RUIN YOUR BACK. I was a heavy weightlifter in my 30’s, now I’m paying for the vanity. I’m having this surgery to fix my L5S1. DON’T LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS!!
Yup, but nobody mentions this
I did the same now suffering. I'm having neck surgery this month. My back is also bad now. Don't lift heavy weights.
Well said me too fucking heavy weight cause me l4/l5 5years ago and still no effective treatment
Yup truth. The muscles can handle the weight and will continue to strengthen and grow but the connective tissues (knees, shoulders etc) and especially the spinal discs will wear out and they do NOT regenerate. They are like (adult) teeth. You get one set so take care of em. Avoid heavy lifts.
Can you share your surgery cost for l5-S1 disc replacement?
Where was the pain? Just in the lumbar or nerve down the leg? I go in two weeks to talk about this. I have been in pain since 18. I’m 30 now. But recently herniated so bad I have been out of work for 3 months
Thank you for sharing I understand your feeling, they told me 3 years ago I needed surgery but I heard a lot of people saying it didn't help them so I put it off. I want everyone to understand that the pain comes and goes in some situations, I have no pain but am having severe balance issues to where I have to hold onto things, I pray everyone gets the help they need to live again in Jesus name, Amen 🙏.
Maybe you have other medical problems not back then and need to see your doctor
I have back and neck chronic pain 😢
I just found out yesterday my disc between L5-S1 has jo fluid whatsoever. I was told i can choose surgery, or live with the pain for the rest of my life. I think I'm gonna choose surgery. I'll let my doctor know when i go back and see him in April.
Hi could you share if you had a surgery?
Did u have surgery.
@@user-ks5nw8hr1y no I'm still waiting on the Dr to call me. It's been almost 3 months since I was told I need to have surgery.
@@bluejeans1773 no I'm still waiting on the Dr to call me. It's been almost 3 months since I was told I need to have surgery.
@@destinywilkinson7782 Are you gonna have surgery at your own country? Doctors at europe are best
What does your scar look like. Gonna be getting this procedure in about a month
Did you get it ?
I'm looking for input from someone with a real artificial disk replacement for L5-S1 and would like to hear if after a few years, not recently, still without a problem. I heard that disk replacements can fail over time. I'm trying to make my final decision for this type of surgery vs a fusion.
Same here. Need feedback from years post op, please, or I will never be convinced.
Did you get your ADR
I need this surgery but my insurance keeps denying my. It’s not even an option for me to pay for it.
I just had ware and tear on my body since I started working. I'm going through worker's comp because my latest injury was from work. And insurance is such a bitch. Believing that conventional exercises like stretching, PT, tens units will make it work.
I am from Bangalore, India whether Dr Patel Visit India? We do not have Lumbar Disc Replacement Surgery and Spinal Implants available in USA and Europe in India. I am suffering from last 10 Years Now. Indian Doctor told me Fusion Surgery outcome is not good and it is better to live with Pain.
what is the name of this procedure?
Disk replacement surgery
Why isn’t his procedure available in the US?
They are available lol
@@kamalamir1783Where?
My girlfriend has lost her disc in between l5 and s1. Doctors want to fuse the two spinal bones by using "Pliff".
I have looked into this and am worried that this is not the solution as it limits her movement after surgery .
Are there alternatives ?
Thank you for reaching out. Due to the specific nature of your question, she should discuss alternatives with her doctor, and seek a second opinion if she is not comfortable with the approaches her doctor recommends.
I have DDD, annular tear, and a protrusion on my L4-L5. It has sucked the life out of me. It's a hell on earth. Anyone know how this stacks up against the LP ESP?
Exactly the same as your problem. Spent a year or so getting slightly better now in great pain again. After being so active it’s tough to live with. Like you, I’m now looking for options.
Annular tears 😢 hurt. I'm making a decision on my disc soon. It's been 9 yrs..I've tried everything. It's time to Live!!!
I have ddd, 2 annular tears, bulging discs, bony growth. It’s insane!
Am having the same problem, it burns, it hurts and i found it difficult to breath, and the worst part is that I can’t work
So I would like to know, have you had a surgery?
This would be a dream come true for me I’m 39 had 2 ops now on l5 s1 disc 6 years ago I’m in so much pain everyday just can’t get any help from no one hospitals in uk just keep fobbing me off my life’s changed so much I can’t Evan walk properly now 😢
I also got shit on by the NHS in a similar situation. Surgery in the UK was prohibitively expensive so I've just had the operation in Poland for only 4 thousand pounds.
@@johnp8607how do feel now ?
Can I have Artificial Disc Replacement Surgery after a microdiscectomy surgery ?
Yes
@@syedyasirjamal7829
After my microdiscectomy, i can still feel that my effort is limited.
Whenver I do simple weight lifting, i feel agoney for many days after.
Is the artifical disc gonna help !!?!?
I have at minimum 6 degrnerative discs & severe spinal degeneration. You want to talk about pain?
Well hopefully the disc lasts. I heard some have been failures.
Now a days they are strong
How much does this cost ?
It's expensive asf. Probably around $20K.
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur that sounds cheap usually these surgerys 50+ and above
I doubt this is something that Kaiser or most other providers will willingly do or do at all. Looks like a good treatment though.
I had a c5/c6 disc replacement back in December. Is it normal to still feel tightness around the neck 4 months later? I didn't feel much the first 2-3 months but now it's really severe. Is this part of the healing process?
Sorry, we cannot provide medical advice in this forum. Please talk to your doctor.
How are u doing now buddy? Are u doing better?????
I’m 25 and was recommended to go to the same doctor for the exact same issue. However being overweight I was told by the PA that nothing can really be done for me until I lose weight. Is there any general idea of what weight is a best suited for this surgery? Anyone have any tips on how to workout and be able to lose weight without further aggravation?
You can lose weight quickly if you embrace the healthy keto life style. Check out Dr. Eric Beg.
I’m over weight but just had VSG surgery to help 72 lb weight loss prior to my disc surgery
There’s a TH-cam channel on exercises for disc issues and keto helps
Eat a whole food plant based diet!
@@mhaas281 keto is not healthy.
I had this problem in my l3-l4 disc since 19 I’m 23 now and I’d say it’s not as bad when it was first injured but it’s never Healed and I’m in pain every day I can cough and my back is blown out and it’s at the point I know I need to fix it with surgery I truly don’t care if it’s a small fortune but I refuse to fuse my spine. I did powerlifting around the time sq 500 deadlifting 635 so I know what led to it as well as crushing my L7 at 17y old I was just asking for it but what set my disc into my nerve wasn’t lifting weights but a Pt that could walk. Tried suing the hospital I worked for and the lawyers I had ended up quitting because they wouldn’t get any money and I would get us a free surgery but they only offered me a fusion which at the time my insurance covered anyway so now with covid I’m just overwhelmed with pain and wrong turns every go around.
Bro im 19 and injured my l4
-l5 and l5-s1 since I was 17 :( dont do fusion bro. Dont settle for less than a disc replacement. Fusion ruins mobility and the adjacent discs start degenerating
@@OER888 bet thx for the heads up def getting a replacement
@@anthonymelendez2605 have you looked into disc replacement in Germany? I heard they are the best at this. Look up "Spine Connect" youtube channel.
I'm 32 and have been injured since I was 12. Dont wait. The past 4 or so years of my life, ive been a shadow of my former self. In pain, depressed all the time. My surgery is next month, I refuse to lose more of my life to this pain. Go get treatment!
What does this mean "but what set my disc into my nerve wasn’t lifting weights but a Pt that could walk" ??
After learning artificial disc replacement result, spent 50000$ for finding happiness is like winning lottery. And cheaper option like disc dissection surgery isn't good. Anyway, I have got mild DDD in L4-L5 and L5-S1.
Can you please share your doctors name and contact?
Orhopedic spine surgeon Ashvin Patel, MD: www.kwoc.net
Disk replacement surgery is only for young people who have more to offer the world. I have had 3 back surgery’s putting off fusion because I was told I could do it down the road. Now all I have as an option is fusion. With rusty screws, bars, and a blocks of rusty old metal. Good old barbaric 40+ year old technology. To be young a gain and have something to offer the world.
Isn't she the girl from "I love cats" viral video?? 🤔🧐
Degenerative Disks are an epidemic! I think it is caused by our sedentary lifestyle and then we try and be active and our body isn't used to it. Replacing disks is the future! Hopefully we can have better discs than ever before. An artificial disc should be able to be even better than a real disc some day. Vertebrate fusion barbaric and not a solution at all. I have DDD and I hope if it gets worse I can get this some day and I hope the technology continues to improve. I think a lot of people need this. A LOT of people!
Agree. I have the same issue at 25. Hope I'd go through this one day
@@syedyasirjamal7829 Sorry to hear man. Stay active. Do you exercises from physical therapy. Don't sit! Standing desk or kneeling chair. Good luck.
I was working as a housekeeper. Walking, bending, lifting all day every day. I'm having a discectomy and worried about later down the road. Thinking I need a more sedentary job with no bending and lifting.
@@Angela-uh1je Sedentary might be even worse. It's probably good to keep moving, just not lifting heavy things, but you should definitely talk to a physical therapist. Sitting at a desk is really really bad.
The best workout is lifting your own body. Stop lifting heavy weights.
Does insurances cover this or I have to be rich?
Probably gotta be rich. Us poor folk can't afford happiness.
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur i just want to know if I need to be rich, ill get there i dont care, I wont give excuses to achieve what I need.
@@thefreedomproject4777 best of luck to you. I'm considering getting this done but in Germany. It costs like $29k. I heard it's cheaper in Thailand with the same German trained surgeons.
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur likewise,
@@Seekingtruth-mx3ur Try India brother.
You are young it's likely not to be a life long fix I hope I'm wrong
Just don’t do deadlifts that’s it
Do not get a fusion!!!!!!!!