@@gunbay5015 There is no hard counter but you definitely want avoid things that are going to feed her like Orissa and DVA! Winston is probably a good pick, Sigma not bad and maybe a good hog but not ideal.
I Haven’t played Overwatch in a couple of years. Finally played and her spear spin is great, I agree. I don’t typically use it to push people off of maps but what I love doing is spinning them into a corner then throwing the spear and keeping them stuck there. I brought down a road hog at full health doing that twice in one game. So satisfying. Also really useful against DVA especially after she gets out of her suit.
I've just started playing & used Orisa. The spear spin was my go-to for both pushing & defending zones. Never pushed someone off a map, but used it plenty of times to remove contesting opponents. Even funnier when following it up with the javelin throw to push em further away
As an Orisa player in OW1 who loved using the shield and gravity ball to push, I was initially surprised at how wholesale the changes in OW2 were. But now after playing, the ability to charge in as a tank with a mobile shield and a giant javelin harpooning poor squishies is FANTASTIC. Nothing is better than single handedly pushing onto the objective and being the rallying point for your team to swing the balance of a game.
as someone who’s bad with orisa, what am i doing wrong? 😭 i try to manage my cooldowns, use shift when i have to, spear squishies, and spin to absorb bullets and push people away/into corners. also i don’t overheat my gun. i guess i used her on a bad map, i used her on push (new queens street) which i don’t rly like, on escort payload maps i think i’d do better on her
Zarya and Wrecking Ball are extremely hard to kill for me as Orisa, im glad you did these tank matchups so i know my experiences are not unfounded. Also the Roadhog Ulting on my Ult has also happened to me lol. I freaking love her spear throw, with shutting down mercy tryna rez being one of my favorite parts about it
I loved the original Orisa because she just felt satisfying to shoot with, but she wasn't very fun to actually play. But now with her spear? GEEZ, she's fun as all hell.
Little something I learned: if you’re gun overheats, try the javelin spin to block in coming damage while the gun cools down. You’ll still have like half a second left till the gun cools but whatevs
Pretty handy guide! I haven't played OW since Orisa originally came out 5 years ago, but her reworked changes have been such a joy to experience for the first time. I have like 17 hours on her in OW2 rn, but this vid still had a decent amount of info I wasn't privy to; good stuff for sure.
it feels so good to block a cassidy ult with spin, immediately block reapers ult when he jumps into ur team with spear, orisa is just so satisfying to play
LOVE your content! Orisa 2.0 is the first time I've ever really enjoyed playing the tank role. Very much looking forward to developing my skills. Sidenote: "eSpecially", not "eXpecially".
i thinkaa neat a tip for mobility would depend on having Lifeweaver as a teammate or on the other team. The lifting platforms that are placed near ledges, you go up, and use spinning javelin to jump across quickly. i also just use her spinning javelin to move quickly across maps lol why is the walk so long?
I wish Overwatch was primarily made for consoles cause it's clearly prioritizing PC a lot more than consoles. It's impossible to aim well on console & there's not even enough controls on the controller for everything.
The tips on deflect are a huge help. I was using it to help push, cancelled devas alt once, and the speed boost to push. But i can also use it to bully?
You seem like the best person to ask. How big is the Javelin spins hitbox? I know for sure it goes fucking miles beyond the animation, shot a sonar arrow absolutely nowhere near an Orisa doing Javelin spin and it blocked it. I shot the arrow at least the width of 2 or more Orisa's stood next to each other.
Great content, love your rationale, personality, and sense of humor. I a doom/rein guy but keep getting fuct by Orisa (she definitely going to get nerfed -1/27/23) so gotta learn her.
I was originally pretty tough on orisas new rework . Even thou I don't think it's as horrible anymore I do wish they would have kept the og design in the game somehow ethier by giving us a choice between both or giving this design to a brand new hero entirely, I know it would not be the exact same but I think it could end up better by making the spear more a central part of there kit (maybe a futuristic harpoon like gun or a two sides electric cattle like pronge that could shoot balls of electricity just random ideas )
I had a blast playing her when OW2 first launched and dominated every match but now every game has a D.va/Zarya and it's getting harder and harder to play Orisa lol
I actually thing that she’s a perfect counter for sigma as well. She can’t fortify against his Boulder and block his only attack. And fortify through his ultimate I love playing Otis’s against sigmas dvas and reins. The only tank she struggles with is wrecking ball and zarya imo
my friends say i play orisa like a dps because i go push to stop them from pushing payload. they also tell me to hold flank. do i need to hold flank as a tank? when they are 4v1 a doomfist and im 1v1 the other team. im so lost in how they want me to play. i need to stay with them and shoot their tank but then the other team push the payload a lot. and then i need to create space and i go in but ofc when no one gets kills other than me im at fault.
I played a bit of OW1, and just started OW2. I've always enjoyed Orisa, and this guide was super helpful. I do have a question though: For the poor match-ups, such as Zarya, Winston & Sigma, can you recommend which tank would be better to switch to during those games to counter play?
This horse girl is just a better sigma Her spear is almost a hitscan weapon and deals stun with no startup and sigma accretion is the same thing but with a slow start-up and slow projectile speed And orisa can use her spinning javelin to eat projectiles and has a movement speed buff while sigma has a longer duration with his black hole and gives a shield but orisa could just press shift and gives overheal and invincibility Plus she can easily hard counter reinhardt
I started to play Tank and chose her for my go to for now. in qp. she is so fun and I can play agressive with her if my team follows. love it! I need to slow down with her xD
1:31 This is a really good guide, but the creator definitely underestimates the impatct of heat reduction of Fortify. When fortify is up you can spray the enemy without resting/'reloading" for a VERY long time. Break shields, crack the enemy tank, etc it's crazy how long she can attack without rest.
Now that Overwatch is FTP I am playing it on-and-off so these videos are really helpful. Hope you do more... That way I won't unsubscribe. (oh you bet I'm blackmailing here) 😅
Um, what are saying at around 1:19? The thing I really want to know is how use her ultimate effective? Like when to just use it early to at least deal some damage than nothing at all? Because there are times when the enemies can just ran away from it. Also how do I know when the enemies are for sure not going away, if that's possible?
dear people playing orisa, please don't go to the enemy spawn when you don't have a movement ability and enemy is still contesting the objectives and wiping the team. your support.
She messes up dva badly idk why people think dva beats her I bullied a dva when I play orisa it’s not even competitive never ran into a zarya but I’m assuming just keep your distance and toss the spear to stun lock and hopefully your teammates target zarya too
Balls easy, javelin when he’s swinging towards you, when he jumps out the swing, spear spin his ass and then javelin again so he can’t swing out and from there, beam until spin is available again.
To think people are saying orisa is OP in the forums now. Dude she is finally a tank and not a useless paper weight. So sick of these bad players claiming something is op in the forums till blizzard crumbles. Orisa is finally where she needs to be to compete in this game.
I could be wrong but i think she can now survive a dva bomb wiht fortify because yesterday i survived one by actovating fortify im not sure tho i might of been hit by a suzu im not sure
def needing to get used to not having a shield , that was my saftey net for me and my team, now it is def about better aiming and timing , which is fine ! been playing orisa since season 5 or 6 , made it to top 500 a couple seasons but left overwatch the last couple , been fun so far ! besides the disconnects lol
I’ve literally used full Terra surges in a group of people. Only to watch them lift off the ground and walk away when they land. Can someone send me a video or just explain to me what I need to do lol
It feels weird for rein to be the weakest tank now. His entire move set is supposed to be complemented with an off tank. Sucks cause I used to main rein as tank but good to try other tanks like ball, queen, and orisa
@@silverpro8356 believe that and you're going to drop a few ranks my friend. Every other tank has higher mobility and can outflank rein especially now there's no off tank to stop them
Looking into commentary section on Orisa Videos: "She is so fun to play!", "I love her now" "Her Spear is so strong" Looking into commentary section on Doomfist Videos: "Why Blizzard?" "Bring back DPS Doom", "Cant kill anything." Blizzard Activision sure knows how to make things unbalanced
Depends on who you're facing and the pacing of the fight. sometimes you can get too aggressive and you're team is playing passive, that results in your team losing their tank
More content on more ohdough
zarya is definitely the hardest to kill for me as an orisa main. The bubble is insanely powerful when used properly
That is a hard counter you need to swap situation though right, fine to main but not one trick
what would be a good counter to zarya?
@@gunbay5015 I switch to winston usually
@@gunbay5015 There is no hard counter but you definitely want avoid things that are going to feed her like Orissa and DVA! Winston is probably a good pick, Sigma not bad and maybe a good hog but not ideal.
I learned she hard countered orissa the hard way
I think the spear spin is really underrated, it doesn’t do to much damage but it’s so op. You can literally push people off the map
I Haven’t played Overwatch in a couple of years. Finally played and her spear spin is great, I agree. I don’t typically use it to push people off of maps but what I love doing is spinning them into a corner then throwing the spear and keeping them stuck there. I brought down a road hog at full health doing that twice in one game. So satisfying.
Also really useful against DVA especially after she gets out of her suit.
@@lazlo686 yeah doing that is really good against dva
Can do damage for finishing players I find it decently strong
it also doubles as a shield of sorts and and blocks a shit ton of projectiles
I've just started playing & used Orisa.
The spear spin was my go-to for both pushing & defending zones. Never pushed someone off a map, but used it plenty of times to remove contesting opponents. Even funnier when following it up with the javelin throw to push em further away
As an Orisa player in OW1 who loved using the shield and gravity ball to push, I was initially surprised at how wholesale the changes in OW2 were. But now after playing, the ability to charge in as a tank with a mobile shield and a giant javelin harpooning poor squishies is FANTASTIC. Nothing is better than single handedly pushing onto the objective and being the rallying point for your team to swing the balance of a game.
i just started using orisa in OW2 and i must say, cancelling ultimates and slapping reinhardts off cliffs is an amazing feeling
Agreed. Been using her for the past couple weeks and it’s so satisfying
as someone who’s bad with orisa, what am i doing wrong? 😭 i try to manage my cooldowns, use shift when i have to, spear squishies, and spin to absorb bullets and push people away/into corners. also i don’t overheat my gun.
i guess i used her on a bad map, i used her on push (new queens street) which i don’t rly like, on escort payload maps i think i’d do better on her
She's def my fav tank as a low ranked player. Thanks for the tips and insight.
Zarya and Wrecking Ball are extremely hard to kill for me as Orisa, im glad you did these tank matchups so i know my experiences are not unfounded. Also the Roadhog Ulting on my Ult has also happened to me lol.
I freaking love her spear throw, with shutting down mercy tryna rez being one of my favorite parts about it
Ball is useless though. He can't also kill you or your teammate if they coordinate semi-properly.
Ball is easy close. Trap with spin and shoot
As a mercy player... yeah 😔 I've been bullied by so many orisas
One of my favorites is hitting an ulting pharah with the spear. It felt like swatting a fly in the air
@@Robincredible LMAO
I loved the original Orisa because she just felt satisfying to shoot with, but she wasn't very fun to actually play. But now with her spear? GEEZ, she's fun as all hell.
They did such a great job with all the character updates. Everybody feels useful.
Little something I learned: if you’re gun overheats, try the javelin spin to block in coming damage while the gun cools down. You’ll still have like half a second left till the gun cools but whatevs
Love her new in your face play style, no more yelling for people to get behind barriers. You are the barrier
Pretty handy guide! I haven't played OW since Orisa originally came out 5 years ago, but her reworked changes have been such a joy to experience for the first time.
I have like 17 hours on her in OW2 rn, but this vid still had a decent amount of info I wasn't privy to; good stuff for sure.
Just gotta add that her ult can be great against super aggressive tanks. Since it won't instakill them they like to try and kill you despite the ult.
Ah yes a orisa guide needed one thank you!!!
I just love hitting those headshot pings with her gun
same, I liked the old orisa gun more but the new one has it's perks
it feels so good to block a cassidy ult with spin, immediately block reapers ult when he jumps into ur team with spear, orisa is just so satisfying to play
Literally I hear cassidy "it's high noooon" and I spin directly on him so he can't hit my team. Ad orisa I tend to stay in your face
They changed Orissa from budget Rein to Horse go brrrrr
I find that the best way to fight DVA as Orisa is to keep mid distance and just keep at that distance
I miss the old Orisa. The soccer net barrier and her little mini gravity shot. Those were the good old days.
LOVE your content! Orisa 2.0 is the first time I've ever really enjoyed playing the tank role. Very much looking forward to developing my skills.
Sidenote: "eSpecially", not "eXpecially".
Shh Low elo boomer
i thinkaa neat a tip for mobility would depend on having Lifeweaver as a teammate or on the other team. The lifting platforms that are placed near ledges, you go up, and use spinning javelin to jump across quickly.
i also just use her spinning javelin to move quickly across maps lol why is the walk so long?
Are you going to keep on making Overwatch content and try and transtion the channel to overwatch because if so, I very here for it
that's the plan
@@OhDough i just started playing overwatch 2 so that would be awesome :)
@@OhDough will you still make any apex content?
I used to watch your dauntless guides, I was super surprised seeing this overwatch guide!
I wish Overwatch was primarily made for consoles cause it's clearly prioritizing PC a lot more than consoles.
It's impossible to aim well on console & there's not even enough controls on the controller for everything.
The fact that it's THAT easy to kill orisa as zarya just proves she's OPd fr fr
Thats actually the main reason I play her. She is SO MUCH FUN.
Started playing around with Orisa last night ..Javelin kills are so satisfying
The tips on deflect are a huge help. I was using it to help push, cancelled devas alt once, and the speed boost to push. But i can also use it to bully?
I love using her to push the enemy off objective
before OW2 changes I would never believe I would watch an orisa guide haha
00:02 , 2 seconds and i was like "Oh my god!". 2 seconds in and you brutaly spear murder the guy xD. That was nice and fun.
Orisa is a bonafide tank. She feels like a living riot shield on tank treads, with her damage soak and crowd control capacity.
You seem like the best person to ask. How big is the Javelin spins hitbox? I know for sure it goes fucking miles beyond the animation, shot a sonar arrow absolutely nowhere near an Orisa doing Javelin spin and it blocked it. I shot the arrow at least the width of 2 or more Orisa's stood next to each other.
Great content, love your rationale, personality, and sense of humor. I a doom/rein guy but keep getting fuct by Orisa (she definitely going to get nerfed -1/27/23) so gotta learn her.
I have a good combo where you use Javelin spin then (if near a wall) throw a javelin to stun or of a map😊
cool to see some overwatch content. planning on making more in the future?
yep, I'll try and make as many guides and tips/tricks vids as I can. when the pve comes out I'll cover that too.
@@OhDough awesome! :D
I was originally pretty tough on orisas new rework . Even thou I don't think it's as horrible anymore I do wish they would have kept the og design in the game somehow ethier by giving us a choice between both or giving this design to a brand new hero entirely, I know it would not be the exact same but I think it could end up better by making the spear more a central part of there kit (maybe a futuristic harpoon like gun or a two sides electric cattle like pronge that could shoot balls of electricity just random ideas )
now that zarya has finally gotten less bubble, how well do you think they match up now?
I had a blast playing her when OW2 first launched and dominated every match but now every game has a D.va/Zarya and it's getting harder and harder to play Orisa lol
u can still bully a dva
extremely helpful, thanks very much!
I actually thing that she’s a perfect counter for sigma as well. She can’t fortify against his Boulder and block his only attack. And fortify through his ultimate I love playing Otis’s against sigmas dvas and reins. The only tank she struggles with is wrecking ball and zarya imo
my friends say i play orisa like a dps because i go push to stop them from pushing payload. they also tell me to hold flank. do i need to hold flank as a tank? when they are 4v1 a doomfist and im 1v1 the other team. im so lost in how they want me to play. i need to stay with them and shoot their tank but then the other team push the payload a lot. and then i need to create space and i go in but ofc when no one gets kills other than me im at fault.
Maaan what about a vid idea just with which tanks counter which and how to know when to switch!
man this made me realize how much ive been sleeping on her spear's utility
Love orisa. Only utst started playing and she is by far the best for me
I played a bit of OW1, and just started OW2. I've always enjoyed Orisa, and this guide was super helpful.
I do have a question though:
For the poor match-ups, such as Zarya, Winston & Sigma, can you recommend which tank would be better to switch to during those games to counter play?
ramattra. nemesis goes through most shields so if you play him right he just shreds
Does her ult need line of sight, or just to be in the circle? BC I've been killed as bap with my immortally around a corner
Golden mode and spear spin are good defenses for roadhogs and doomfists
This horse girl is just a better sigma
Her spear is almost a hitscan weapon and deals stun with no startup and sigma accretion is the same thing but with a slow start-up and slow projectile speed
And orisa can use her spinning javelin to eat projectiles and has a movement speed buff while sigma has a longer duration with his black hole and gives a shield but orisa could just press shift and gives overheal and invincibility
Plus she can easily hard counter reinhardt
actually helpful video thanks mate
That matchup section was so useful
I started to play Tank and chose her for my go to for now. in qp. she is so fun and I can play agressive with her if my team follows. love it! I need to slow down with her xD
1:31 This is a really good guide, but the creator definitely underestimates the impatct of heat reduction of Fortify. When fortify is up you can spray the enemy without resting/'reloading" for a VERY long time. Break shields, crack the enemy tank, etc it's crazy how long she can attack without rest.
The spin can redirect rein charge, but not stop it
Now that Overwatch is FTP I am playing it on-and-off so these videos are really helpful.
Hope you do more... That way I won't unsubscribe.
(oh you bet I'm blackmailing here) 😅
plz no unsubscribe
Um, what are saying at around 1:19?
The thing I really want to know is how use her ultimate effective? Like when to just use it early to at least deal some damage than nothing at all? Because there are times when the enemies can just ran away from it. Also how do I know when the enemies are for sure not going away, if that's possible?
I usually use E to speed myself in and I'll ult targets like zenyatta or ana who have no mobility.
@@OhDough pretty new to the game so no idea on those characters yet.
@@halfblue2678 E is javelin spin, zenyatta is a floating support that shoots orbs, ana is an old lady with a rifle who's also a support.
@@OhDough so ult is close to useless for against other characters?
To be fair, if somebody still had their shield, this conversation wouldn’t be happening
dear people playing orisa, please don't go to the enemy spawn when you don't have a movement ability and enemy is still contesting the objectives and wiping the team. your support.
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Thor: always aim for the head...!
Me: hahaha shit...! That was a great line!
I mean knowing the counters is great but what do I change into when I see an opposing Zarya or Dva?
She messes up dva badly idk why people think dva beats her I bullied a dva when I play orisa it’s not even competitive never ran into a zarya but I’m assuming just keep your distance and toss the spear to stun lock and hopefully your teammates target zarya too
Balls easy, javelin when he’s swinging towards you, when he jumps out the swing, spear spin his ass and then javelin again so he can’t swing out and from there, beam until spin is available again.
Her alt can combo with a lot of other ults. It’s so fun ulting and your friend is junk rat and absolutely obliterates them
Her Ult combined with Mei’s is chef’s kiss
Edit: her Ult not Adult lmao
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YOU PLAY OVERWATCH TOO? This is juicy
Thanks for the counter info!
does her ult suck people down from above?
like a phara?
Yes, it's like a sphere
pls do a doomfist one too PLS
I have to get good at doom first v.v
@@OhDough would be a nice project for stream or some xD
@@pjotree Doomfist is the worst character in the game rn tho
To think people are saying orisa is OP in the forums now. Dude she is finally a tank and not a useless paper weight. So sick of these bad players claiming something is op in the forums till blizzard crumbles. Orisa is finally where she needs to be to compete in this game.
Orisa is the best Orisa counter. Nothing will die.
Lol
I could be wrong but i think she can now survive a dva bomb wiht fortify because yesterday i survived one by actovating fortify im not sure tho i might of been hit by a suzu im not sure
This hero is so good idk if I want to main her because of a future nerf.
What other tank should I learn that orisa to cover my role as a tank?
dva/zarya atm
What does the orange health bar do
didn't know u played overwatch
I love new Orisa!
"ekspecially" is not a word
This hero is waaaaay better than OW1. One of my favourite characters already.
Since when did you play overwatch.
Lobster Orisa with a harpoon, please. Idk how else to suggest this skin to OW
I'm actually glad she ain't overpowered, her whole kit is lethal around corners.
It's fun to play a tank that's actually tanky, rather than getting 1 shot by widow
I’m Orisa main, and i miss the old Orisa with the shield 🥺
def needing to get used to not having a shield , that was my saftey net for me and my team, now it is def about better aiming and timing , which is fine ! been playing orisa since season 5 or 6 , made it to top 500 a couple seasons but left overwatch the last couple , been fun so far ! besides the disconnects lol
Spin spear can block abilities and completely ruin a hog ult
What’s “expecially” ? 🤔
As an orisa main I agree with this video
Road hog guide next?
will definitely make one, I'm moving into my own house soon so not sure about a timeline.
Heal when low, free pick on squishes every 8 seconds from hook, ult enemies into wall for maximum damage
I’ve literally used full Terra surges in a group of people. Only to watch them lift off the ground and walk away when they land. Can someone send me a video or just explain to me what I need to do lol
I heard Javelin Spin can’t block Sigma’s rock. Does anyone know the answer for that?
It cant
But if you time it right you can cancel his rock throw with the javelin
@@itsyaboijesus9179 Thank you for the advice!
A Moira is my real battle
are you saying eckspecially?
It feels weird for rein to be the weakest tank now. His entire move set is supposed to be complemented with an off tank. Sucks cause I used to main rein as tank but good to try other tanks like ball, queen, and orisa
Rein isnt the weakest tank he is actually S tier. Maybe hes weak in lower elo but with the pros hes very good.
@@silverpro8356 believe that and you're going to drop a few ranks my friend. Every other tank has higher mobility and can outflank rein especially now there's no off tank to stop them
@@Revenkin Well ive gained ranks playing rein so dont know what your on about maybe your just not playing him well.
@@silverpro8356 I was at Grandmaster on rein in overwatch, unless you got to 500 in overwatch 2 let's not compare
@@RevenkinFunny you say that i was probably the best Orisa on the server and especially NA because NA is terrible.
Trick for Orisa ultimate.... Javelin spin an enemy or groups of enemies into a wall or corner, than do her ultimate. Thank me later.
staff swirl winston out of his shield bubble
This was very useful thank you I should be able to play Orisa better
Orisa does not need an extra shield
She is the shield
Once Zayra finally gets nerfed and stops being played every game she'll be meta for sure
I would like to play tank in comp but the low mobility + large hit box isn’t it
orisa can be rough in comp right now, zarya and dva are usually preferred atm
Me boy liking OW2 7:06
New to OW2, played orisa last night and had a 22k damage game 🤦♂️ and we still mf lost. Orisa is def my new favorite to use
Looking into commentary section on Orisa Videos:
"She is so fun to play!", "I love her now" "Her Spear is so strong"
Looking into commentary section on Doomfist Videos:
"Why Blizzard?" "Bring back DPS Doom", "Cant kill anything."
Blizzard Activision sure knows how to make things unbalanced
dps doom could 1 shot, orisa needs to land follow up shots after the spear and they have to be headshots.
Should you be using Orisa’s abilities reactively or aggressively for picks?
Depends on who you're facing and the pacing of the fight. sometimes you can get too aggressive and you're team is playing passive, that results in your team losing their tank