2024 NFL Draft QBs - What We Love (and Hate)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2024
- Jay Gruden and Colt McCoy break down the quarterbacks in the 2024 NFL Draft class headlined by Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy, Bo Nix, and Michael Penix.
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Timestamps
0:00 What NFL Asks Quarterbacks at the Combine
3:45 Caleb Williams
8:49 Jayden Daniels
13:54 Drake Maye
20:10 JJ McCarthy
25:31 Bo Nix
28:51 Michael Penix Jr. - กีฬา
Great behind the scenes insight. Love hearing how coaches break this stuff down and think through the process. Thank you for the peek behind the curtain.
Jay sounds so much like his brother (without the Chuckie look 😅). Colt looks like a future QB/OC Coach.
Jay and Jon Gruden have to be identical twins, right?
This is awesome! I’m super excited about the future of this pod!!
Jay&Jon have both historically been great with QBs. Very interested to hear Jay’s thoughts on modern QB play
Great show but no one can see the TV in the background
That seems like an easy fix in the editing room with future videos.
great convo!
Great show and insight. This is the future. F ESPN and their clown show.
ESPN? Never heard of her
Good hear Jay honest opinion at the end with D Haskins pick…but good to hear his opinion on the QB’s
lol totally. I knew exactly who he meant
Great show! That background is too rich for that small was tv. Or at least Lmao so the screen on in phase with the video.
Jay was a good O coordinator. Its hard to be a HC when Snyder is making you draft Dwayne Haskins
Good stuff
Oh, I loved this... liked and subscribed....awesome insight!
This will be an awesome channel
Great authentic insights no media BS thank you
Loving this. Gruden isn’t just pointing out the highs. Very honest good vs bad analysis
Great show so far 🎉
information, information and more information. Good Channel.
The thing with Nix was, you take the short stuff out, and he’s still either #1 in the country or #2. It truly is remarkable to be that accurate at every level of the field.
Gruden describing all the intangibles you want was describing JJ McCarthy to the T
Right because no one has any idea what tangibles he good at. Half say his arm in mid, half say it’s Elite, but all say he hasn’t thrown enough to be sure. Some say he’s a good at diagnosing plays, others say he a 1 read guy, but all say he doesn’t throw with touch or anticipate.
Not sure Jay Gruden is the first guy I'd want judging character or intangibles all things considered. Jay was a party guy who lacked character and couldn't instill discipline as a head coach.
@@PickpocketJones well he’s the first coach who realized that Kirk Cousins was fool’s gold.
He was wrong. Kirk was the best QB in the NFL last year @@Hengel_Andrews
@@vikingjedi573 not “the best”. He was the best garbage time QB in the league, that’s what his stats mean on a 2-4 team. He’ll always be fools gold piling up stats instead of wins, because he’s been the worst first half QB. Mister fall asleep at the steering then gets hyped up for nearly getting you out of the ditch.
I get to hear Jay talk ball regularly now? Lemme subscribe ASAP!
Drake Maye is the best choice in the draft, imo.
Every last one is a mystery, but I can't wait to watch all of em. I think this class of QBs will hold each other accountable for their collective success. (Highly competitive class of guys)
Why does everyone think Daniels is a stud? He has the exact same profile (albeit much smaller) as Justin Fields. Issues with processing, throwing over the middle, and keeping his eyes downfield. Those are traits you need to succeed in the NFL.
Main difference between him and fields is the release and mechanics coming out. Im not a huge Fields guy or Daniels guy but I like Daniels a lot more. Simply from the mechanical aspect and release aspect. Fields has one of the slowest releases I’ve ever seen and he wasn’t mechanically good which could effect his control on the ball. Daniels has a weaker arm but he has a much quicker release and better mechanics
He is honestly nothing like fields, not sure where that’s coming from. Fields has a rocket arm where as Daniels is a lot weaker. Both extremely athletic but Fields isn’t quite as dynamic in space. Also not sure where you’re getting this lack of processing from. Outside of Caleb I don’t think that’s a super strong spot for anyone in the class
JD is supposed to be a good processor.
44TD’s my friend
I like this tandem !
Great conversation. I like Bo Nix a lot more than what I hear all of the NFL analysts comment. Minshew is a solid QB2 but I don't get how Nix compares to Minshew as Nix's ceiling in the NFL or why Nix wouldn't be able to step in and lead an offense in the NFL day 1. He comes across as intelligent and capable. He's got a lot of tools to start day 1 and imo has a highest floor of any of the top six guys.
It's hard to draft a guy high when he rarely threw the ball past 10yds from the LOS.
@@jameshannagan4256 Yeah, the same redundant line everyone likes to spew, that Bo Nix somehow threw for 4500+ yards and 45 TD's all behind the line of scrimmage, first of its kind! Never been done before...
No other of the top six college QB's coming out use the RPO and quick pass game either, definitely not.
@@larkwyll7351 You can bitch all you want but i'm not convinced he's picked in the top 50 and a lot of so-called experts have been saying it as well. I'm not a scout but as a Raider fan having to watch Jimmy G throw the ball close to the LOS every week last year drove me crazy i'd rather someone like Penix who makes you defend the entire field at least. I don't think the Raiders are picking Penix or Nix at 13 but if they do no one will be pulling for them more than me.
@@jameshannagan4256 I like Penix and Nix. You're the one complaining btw. I am advocating for a player's future success.
Nix has plenty of arm strength especially if he's taught to start using his legs more to generate power.
I agree that Jimmy G was a bad signing for the Raiders. Comparing Jimmy G to Nix isn't fair though. Jimmy can't throw the ball. That isn't a limitation of Nix who has a good arm.
@@larkwyll7351 I watched some film that's about it and the only reason I even watched it is because the Raiders are going to draft a QB. I keep seeing negative stuff about Nix and a lot of scouts have Rattler with the same grade I honestly don't care who we draft as long as he has a shot to start. If I had to pick one I don't see any QBs at 13 that have enough value but my gut tells me Penix if he's there at 44 or Rattler if he's there at 77. What round do you see Nix being drafted in?
this is fantastic
Jay still can’t believe we took Brandon Scheriff in the top 5 when he was the coach
Thanks Gentlemen, I value your takes. I had Colt as a fantasy qb one year on a "loaded" team where I finished second (lost by eight points in the league championship), out of 14 teams. Colt you did enough to get it done. My wife and I took a sweet vacation from the winnings. Appreciated man.
If Colt was your starter no wonder you lost.
@@calvinhobbes6118 yeah, true. I had a kick ass team by not drafting a qb until pick six...I still took second and a fist full of dead presidents. Appreciated.
Would love to hear Jon Gruden join in on this channel
Can't see the videos
I came here just to say Jay definitely had the gruden sound lol
nice Gruden can see what's going on at least.
It's interesting getting a view into what NFL coaches and personnel departments care about. It's telling how much Jay talks about "envisioning a guy as the face of your franchise" and how much they won in college. I'm sure that's how these teams justify their boneheaded picks.
Pats fan here, we need a QB and have the 3rd overall pick. I would be ecstatic if they drafted Drake Maye I think he will be a better player than Daniel’s but i think Daniel’s will have a quicker impact. Either way they are studs and New England better pick 1 of them. Don’t trade out
Can’t see the tv good at all but other than that coming from a die hard Skins fan great video 🫡
One hand vs 2 seems trivial, but I bet the shift is significant. Two hands might change your posture, tension in your body, limit your speed and quickness. I'd like to hear more about working out bad habits and how likely techniques can change. How do you get to this level and need to improve basic technique (how do you get past high school like that)? Do coaches just put up with it, thinking that nagging the QB might drive him to the portal? If you are a college QB, and you know scouts want to see good footwork, hip position, arm angle, why would you not perfect your craft? It affects your bottom line.
It's not affecting Caleb's bottom line. He's got all the tools but you are right. Teaching what they should be doing could hinder their natural ability. They should know better but the game is fast and their mind is all over the place so they need to do what they do naturally. The lower tier QBs then yes you gotta teach them out of stupidity.
What is up with the 2019 NFL Draft QB prospect names flashing 😂😂. Trace McSorley 1???
bo is the silent assasin
You come here for handshake analysis
Please show us the TV
Jay you go back to coaching man he was a really good coach like to see him back again
Christian Ponder had intangibles.
😂
All of the intangibles, he was just terrible doing the football playing tangibles.
Why do they talk about CW being able to create and extend plays? He has the worst pressure to sack conversion rate of all the quarterbacks in this class and that even looks better than the reality because there's another 5-10 plays per game where he runs for no gain or 1 yard that count in the positive side of that ratio. Never mind, along with that terrible conversion rate he invites pressure constantly where he doesn't need it because he won't throw the open route trying to get a home run every play. And on top of that you're going to fumble once every game? No bueno man. No bueno
JD ,Maye , and Williams all had
a lot of sacks.
if i was blind i would think this was jon gruden
Please just pick jjj or drake 😂 they both can carry a team leave Jayden to go to ?
I’m afraid the Bears will get more than Caleb the football player. Dad will come along with him.
No wonder Jay isn't coaching in the NFL anymore. Analytics is "bullshit" because it says Nix has a higher completion percentage than Penix, but the tape says Penix is a more accurate passer? But it wasn't tape that told you Nix was a worse passer, Jay - you said 5 minutes ago his ADOT was negative, and *that* was what told you he was a worse passer. Was the analytics "bullshit" then?
McCarthy: “you won’t win because of him.”
“Velocity, you have to make those kinds of throws in the NFL” Daniels doesn’t have velocity
@@fullofmuscledownunde Peyton Manning didn’t have velocity, he had timing. Timing is a great equalizer.
@@Hengel_Andrews he had more velocity than Daniels that’s for sure
@@fullofmuscledownunde you don’t have to lie trying to make a point. To be called a liar is a disrespect, but to be lied to is worse.
Beat that analytics strawman Jay! No one who is serious about analytics is getting fooled by a high completion percentage on short passes, give me a break. Anyone who frames analytics in that way is really making a comment about their own inability to understand and use all the tools at their disposal.
He is a coach most coaches/players aren’t crazy about analytics, rarely in there mind gives room for improvement, you kinda are what in analytics.
That the GMs job to take the step back and take in both inputs, and find some middle ground.
Wish I could get on board with a Gruden hire
"Number one, can you envision him in the offense that I want to run"? And there you have it, why Gruden was not able to find success with RG3 or vice versa.
Jay doesn’t seem like a very nice person
Caleb had 17 fumbles over 3 years I don't know where people get this 30+ fumbles crap.. and Gruden no less🤦🏽♂️
30 fumbles. 17 recovered by the defense. 13 recovered by the offense.
@GoHerd2001 check his official ncaa stats instead of Twitter bud. He's fumbled 17 times and lost 5 of them over his college career. People just talk crap on Twitter its one of the many things about him going around that is just straight misinformation
Where is the JJ McCarthy breakdown? F this
toward the end of the video
Loved Jay, too bad his boss was/is a scumbag. Thank the lord he doesn’t own the team amymore.
Drake May is just a good college quarterback. Joe Milton is better than Drake May. Jayden Daniels is the way to go.
Joe Milton is garbage.
Jay just say u don’t like Drake Maye. He’s better than all the QBs u have coached.
not better than Kirk
@@hugeboi3669😂😂😂
Daniels isn’t a 15 year starter